Trails thread

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>>375881547
Getting it tomorrow

>One minute in
>NPCs are already name-dropping The Reinford Company and Bareahard

My loreboner is a max hardness.

>>375881547
>today
It was yesterday actually

>>375881838
It's 10:22PM on the day it was released.

So... today

>>375881547
>they dubbed the battle voices

AHAHAHAHAHA I was thinking of buying it too. Maybe if there's a patch. Actually may as well buy Evolution then.

not til summer sale

i have to many weeb games in my backlog

I bought SC on release and I still haven't finished it.

>>375881961
No just my genuine thought process.

>>375882047
alright I'll bite then

>they dubbed the battle voices
you mean just like the last two games?
that can also be patched with japanese voices?

>Actually may as well buy Evolution then.
wanting that shitty art

>>375882114
The art is good though. They butchered the music, I'll give you that.

>>375881882
>HURRRRR I won't play this because a very insignificant amount of dialogue only in battles is not in glorious nipponese
Its easy as fuck to patch in Japanese voices and some of the jap voices like Estelles are fucking awful. You jap only fags are the biggest cucks, I can understand with anime because I generally only watch subbed but with a game with such a very small amount of voice acting it hardly makes a difference.

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>mfw hearing the Sky OST again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCzkJ1PfFMg

>>375881547
I'll probably wait until summer sale.

>>375882198
Not that anon, but some of the portraits just looks off, and they have a limited amounts of expressions compared to the original ones.

Hell, the ones in Zero/AO also have good variety compared to Sky's EVo.

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>>375882198
the art is generic and they have way less expressions. if you think that's good then i don't know what to say.

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>>375881547
Yes. Haven't started it yet though.

I'm on the last part of SC. Just got to Weissman.

>>375883214
Watch the flooring and don't waste CP in the very first phase of the fight.

>>375883214
How was Loewe's fight for you? I'm at the last chapter myself, but i'm still escorting dead weight girl Capua after finding her.

I keep hearing people compare bosses as "loewe tier" so i'm expecting him to be hard.

I'm waiting for the crack. I haven't checked yet though so if it's available I'll probably start playing it by tomorrow.

>>375883334
fuck off

>>375883334
Skidrow's been out for a few hours

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LITERALLY
SHAKING

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>>375882306
Excuse my buzzword, but this is the definition of comfy.

>>375883458
Oh neat I didn't notice. Thanks

>>375883450
Stay angry cuck

>>375883583
I would argue about how Agate took a bullet for her but Tita also saved him from getting his head chopped off.

Tita's mom wants to squeeze a pious nun, what a heretic.

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>>375883634
I ain't hearing anything, Mr. Died for Nothing.

I do miss your robot's voice though.

>>375882230

Kevin's english VA has a fucking lisp.

But it's Estelle's game.
;_;

>>375883887
It isn't though.

>>375883887
Estelle is Joshua's baby factory now.

She's irrelevant.

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>>375883887

Estelle is old and busted now. Kevin is the new hotness.

maybe after playing the second game


i probably should trails in the sky fc was amazing and it made me feel like a kid

>>375882767
You could have one default portait for Evo and it would still convey more emotion simply on the fact its fully voiced. You get more from hearing Tita's mom absolute hatred for Agate whenever shes loses it or the payoff moment with Renne in Zero, or Randy's parts in Ao, etc.

>>375884194
>not playing SC inmediately after FC
How can you handle such a cliffhanger

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Protip for the three PC Trails games: find your saved game folder in C:\Users\(Username)\Saved Games\FALCOM
It'll be ED6 for FC, ED_SORA2 for SC and ED_SORA3 for the 3rd.
Open up the .ini inside. Find the line FullAntiAlias=0 and set it to 4. Save. Set .ini file as read-only.
This will improve the anti-aliasing in addition to any AA settings you may force through your graphic card settings.

>>375884348
what is this magic and why isn't it on by default?

>>375884290
this was way back when fc came out on steam

i was waiting for sc but by the time it came out i completely forgot about it and i didn't have money

Do you eventually get that book thing that tells you all the orbment combinations? I can't find it and it'd be a pain in the ass trying to make spells without it.

Does Kevin dick Ries? They just met again and there's some thick (sexual) tension here.

>>375884561
after the prologue

>>375884421
Good question. This setting alone, curiously, has a significantly more positive impact on the jaggies than forcing 8xEQ SSAA through Radeon settings alone.

I thought I played FC and SC on hard, but I can't see where it indicates that in my save from before. If it does at all.

Is normal too easy for 3rd? Or just right?

>>375884245
I don't think anyone was arguing against voice acting, we were just saying the portraits themselves are shit.

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>>375883770
Ordine did have a soothing voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK_tOea259I&list=PLfseE3JLZwXz0M4Nv5anYzxt3MIPGP_gD&index=17

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Calvard when?

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So i'm exploring the Liberl ark, and i found a terminal that talks about how there was an increasing number of crime rates in certain areas of the city, which made them have to force more severe security measures for the city.

How in the fuck does a city as close to am Utopia as possible still suffer from fucking crime?

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With how good studios are getting nowadays, do you think a Cold Steel adaptation would be possible?

I'm hoping a studio like Ufotable, MAPPA or White Fox would pick up a project like this.

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>>375885076
That's not comfy at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVP_nCK0tXU

>>375885279
It's long as shit though, I can't imagine it would be done without at least 26 episodes.

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No AA, for comparison's sake.

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>>375885450
It wasn't supposed to be comfy.

I want an adaptation thats on par with something as visually appealing as Fate/Zero was.

26 episodes would probably cover most of CS1.

>>375885279
I think it would probably end up pretty bad and it would be a huge waste of resources on adapting the worst arc.

>>375885564
>Visually appealing
If you're going for that, might as well adapt CS2 without CS1. Unless you just want to focus on Legram or something.

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>>375885565
What would be the best arc for an adaptation then?

>>375885565
>a huge waste of resources on adapting the worst arc
Didn't they already make a stage play or something doing exactly that?

>>375885709
Probably Crosbell to capitalize on the Baccano audience.

>>375885279
The Sky animu was total shit. Messed up Estelle's charaterization and skipped over entire arcs. I don't think a text-heavy series like Kiseki would work unless it was at least 24 episodes long.

I'm just finished the first memory fragment.
Really loving this side-story heavy format.
If the game keeps at this pace, it may blow the other two out of the water.

>>375885771
Well if Crossbell were to adapted us EOPs would get to see a lot of what was missed.

Does anyone know what carrying over SC save gives?

>>375885462
There's a difference?

>>375885808
Gladiator Belt

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Why does water need a recipe, specifically why a bone?

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>>375884348
This game is behaving strangely re: AA. This is with 8xEQ SSAA forced through Radeon settings (and the ini setting off). It doesn't look like the AA is doing anything here when comparing it to >>375885462
However...

>>375885876
I'm guessing to help filter it?

>>375885771
>adaptation of the dark auction house scene
thanks anon i just popped a boner and it won't go down

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>>375885876

it's super tasty water

>>375885876
This is fucking amazing.

>>375885848

huh, I don't have one in my inventory. Maybe Kevin-kun had to be the one wearing it, I most likely had it on Joshua for spamming *teleports behind u* breaks

GOG torrent where

>>375886075
you'll get it during the beginning of chapter 1

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>>375885279
>Prologue
>Celdic
>Bareahard
>Nord
>Heimdallr
>Legram + Garrelia
>Roer
>Optional Ymir
>Festival
>Plus all the free days + school house investigations
Have fun I guess? Unless you want to stuff everything into 2 episodes per "chapter". I don't see it turning out good in most cases.

>Tita's mom is furious with Agate
Sexual relationship confirmed, and mother of the year walked in on some full penetration.

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>>375885952
This screen with AA on in Radeon settings.

>>375886141
Should be up. Check your usual sites.

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>>375886198
I know it doesn't make sense since there is so much to put into one anime, but I was just being hopeful.

Great artwork though.

I still need to finish First Chapter.

I was enjoying the story but combat was getting tedious so I started skipping the random encounters which made me underleved for the forced encounters which made them even more tedious and everything started resisting the Confusion ability which is how I'd been cheesing most fights so I just stopped. I'm a terrible person.

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>>375886251
Same screen with AA off in Radeon settings. Unlike the screen on the deck of the ship, the AA in Radeon settings is having a dramatic impact. This is very strange behavior, where forcing AA through graphic card settings is working on some screens but not others.
The .ini setting mentioned >>375884348 seems to work on all screens.

>>375885803
It's also the best arc to animate overall. Zero is the most "complete" of the three first games of their respective arcs. FC ends on a big cliffhanger and CS has two first games that have twice as much filler as Zero or FC. So if you adapt CS1, you end up adapting half a story and if you don't have the funds/time/whatever to adapt CS2 you don't get the other half of the story and even if you do, you miss out on CS3 which is where all the important shit of the arc is going to happen anyway. If you adapt FC and can't adapt SC, you leave people on a massive cliffhanger. If you adapt Zero, there are some major loose threads but the main plot has been resolved. Zero is also the most exciting of the three, so it's the most likely to be popular. It also already has an established audience because of its similarities to FMA, it has a unique style and setting compared to CS (which would blend in with the other ten thousand harem light novel adaptations of the last decade) and FC (which has a style that hasn't been done a while in anime, but is still more common than Zero's), so it's the most likely to succeed as an adaptation.

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>>375886305
Better off adapting some one-shot for the fans.

Or Falcom Gakuen 3rd

>>375885236
It's like the Eldar in warhammer. When there is no struggle in life, people turn to more extreme, degenerate shit to get a thrill and feel alive.

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>>375885876
I'm guessing it's like:

>Put the fish bone on top of the container for the water
>Cover it with royal leafs, the bones keeps it from falling inside
>Squeeze the gelatin for for water, the leafs filter any dirty stuff in the gelatin and the bones still works as way to stop the soggy leafs from falling inside

I'm not sure on the maple sugar though. Maybe it's to disguise the weird taste the water from the gelatin might have?

>>375886382
Nigger, killing one Shining Pom gives you more exp than every single random encounter in the chapter they're found.
>get 200 CP with each character
>find a shining pom
>kill as many as possible
>if you have agate, he can kill them all with wild rage
>get 4+ levels per fight
>never fight random battles aside from registering new enemies once

>>375885820
There's a massive difference in the edges of the polygons between >>375885462 and >>375884348

>>375886523
Makes me wonder if any hedonistic survivors fucked off to a different dimension to continue living that way.

>>375886431
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Zero being fan translated currently?

i'll get it when it's $20 or less

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>>375886430
Finally, out of curiosity, here's same screen with both Radeon settings AA on and .ini setting AA on.

>>375886629
It's been fully translated for over a year, and there's been no news. Chances are, either they will get a cease and desist from Falcom/XSeed, or they will have sold their basic translation to XSeed and it's undergoing QA and editing.

Is it just me or does everything about coldsteel is just cringe? Rean feels like some 3rd grader's OC and his sad "dark" past is a fucking joke. Seriously, how much of a fucking baby do you have to be to cry about killing something to protect someone?
>M-my edgy darkness power it's too powerful...!
Almost made me stop fucking playing.

>>375886764
You can also just use ReShade with the D3D8 wrapper and inject SMAA, which eliminates jaggies and also smooths sprites. Zero performance cost in comparison as well, for those with toasters.

>>375886764 and >>375886251 look identical. It appears as if the .ini setting FullAntiAlias=4 may be overriding Radeon AA settings which are intended to override application settings. Bizarre. In any case, it appears as if enabling FullAntiAlias=4 will produce the best AA quality in the PC Trails games, at least with AMD cards. I have no idea if NVidia cards will display this same strange, inconsistent AA behavior.

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>>375886791
Rean's nonsensical self-loathing was pretty bad.

Funny thing is, he's got every right to be a troubled teen AFTER the events of CS2 and maybe after CS1. His inner, self-imposed suffering and isolation make no sense and served nothing but to be pointless drama. Instead of focusing on problem that happened way before with his useless sister, he would be better off worrying about the actual problems of his friends being in danger.

>>375886791
About as cringe as Estelle's "the power of friendship and love can beat anything" speech.

>>375886250

but Tita is the one trying to rape onii-chan

>>375887126
That's exactly what Rean does too, so he's doubly guilty of delivering on both spectrums

>>375887126
>Reanfaggots can't defend their shit character so they have to shit on a good one using out-of-context shitposting instead
lol

>>375887224
Please don't lump me in with him.
Although, I wouldn't call myself a Reanfag in the first place.

>>375887126
She tried that with Renne but she gave Estelle a dose of harsh reality.

The thing about Estelle is that she's easy going, but won't give up, and wants to help others who are in need of help. Renne's first rejection just served to enforce on her that she needed to reach out to her somehow, but simply saying "hey, there guys who took care of you and took you away from your awful life are bad people, joins us instead" wasn't gonna cut it.

>>375887126
Nah not really, Estelle gives that speech then gets shat on by Weissman

Meanwhile in CS2 Rean gives the cringiest power of friendship speech ever and it's played completely straight

>>375887408
I'll feel some sort of sympathy for this little shit eventually. I wasn't having any of her shit in SC.

>>375887374
>he doesn't remember the ending of FC

It's played straight there.

>>375887161
>not my faul she's sliding up and down on my full, throbbing erection
>i'm just an innocent bystander simply choosing not to prevent this from happening
Makes sense.

Who's autistic enough to keep track of the story told through empty chests? (please someone do it)

>>375887534
I'm pretty sure Richard just says he doesn't give a shit and fights you anyway.

Unlike CS2 where the boss congratulates Rean on being such an amazing leader

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>>375887627
>Chest Stories
I've kept a few from FC and a bunch from SC but never bothered compiling them together. Was too busy playing CS. I was both relieved and sad that they were gone.

>>375887737

I've made it to chapter 2. There's more than one story told by chests now. trails in the chest is a 37 parter, and there's another one that's 12 parts.

>>375887491
You have to try and see it from her point of view really:

>Parents leave me somewhere and take off
>suddenly taken by some bad people who make her do lots of nasty shit
>This goes on and you also see other children go through the same
>Suddenly the organization shows up and saves you from it
>Teaches you how to fight, gives you a home and an actual life compared to before
>In comes the stupid idiot tomboy who took away one of your friends and savior and expects you to turn your back on the people who saved you just because she thinks it's the right thing to do

Admittedly, she is smart enough to realize she is most likely doing stuff that will affect innocent people, but to her those people are her family, and Estelle just shit on them with her own words. It's a little understandable.

>>375887658
Richard acts amazed and says how strong Estelle is while admitting that he's weak. Played straight as fuck.

>>375887658
>>375887917
I think it's played straight, but not because of the friendship speech shit.

It's more like:

>Richard sees that Estelle and Co have the right mindset for helping people and probably helping the country move forward, but still thinks it's not nearly enough and still wants to follow his plan along
>For Rean it's the fact that he was such a brooding mess, and "leave me alone" character, who then decided to rely on others to achieve his objectives instead of isolating himself, while still being good at leading them

You're looking at it too literally.

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>>375887838
TitS is a chest-heavy game

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>>375887838
I'm sure I'll connect a few dots once I reorganize my screencaps.

>>375888114
Richard fights Estelle and co. because it's "too late to turn back." That's it.

>>375887917
Yes, he says Estelle's character is strong, and that were everyone as strong as her he would turn back. the entire point of what Richard did was because he believed the country didn't have anyone strong enough to lead them in Cassius' absence. He basically says he has to continue with his plan because of that, even though he admits Estelle is stronger than him.
>Played straight as fuck
At least it was played, unlike what you did with FC.

>>375881547
No, but I'll be buying Rean's games when they come out.

>People defending Estelle and Rean
Both are trash. It's the other characters that people play Kiseki for

>>375887917
>Estelle
>strong character whose specialty is bringing people together and leading due to her strong self-esteem and belief in others and an ability to judge people extremely well
>Rean
>weak, lacking in personality, has no self-esteem, constantly misjudges those around him, by his own admission is too weak to be a leader
>still gives power of friendship speeches and leads Class VII flawlessly because the plot demands it, but still constantly whines about being a terrible leader
Real massive improvement there

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>>375888516
Josette get out.

Rean may have been a generic LN character but he was sort of charming and he did eventually become better. I'm actually looking forward to CS3 Rean

>>375888516
Wrong, Estelle is the most popular kiseki character.

>>375888470
>were everyone as strong as her he would turn back

Wrong.

>>375888639
your bias is extremely obvious

>>375888738
>biased towards the better character
woah

>>375888686
FC is a good game. You should play it.

>>375888679
>Wrong, Estelle is the most popular kiseki character in Japan
FIFY

>>375888807
And in the west.

>>375885952
>>375887004
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>>375888672
Here's the thing.

When we disregard gameplay elements and the sarcastic and funny quips both Estelle and Rean give out, Estelle gets the upper hand in character mostly because the setting sort of makes sense for it. Estelle also gets backing because she's involved in a fully-fleshed out love story that also has her have better moments with her corny love lines. Whereas Rean mostly suffers from problems like >>375888639
>>375887062
His main source of trouble involving his ogre form is poorly thought out and CS3 looks so delectable to me because he has every right to be a bit insecure and shaky about what he's fighting for after CS2. Doesn't help that the "canon" Alisa romance still bores the living daylights out of me.

>>375888807
Oh man, I sure would love a poll of the west's "good" taste when they all vote that fucking mary sue Towa into #1 instead of someone like Olivier.

>>375888801
CS has way better combat than TitS. I'm playing the 3rd right now and it's sort of hard to get into it. I guess that means I won't be replaying FC or SC anytime soon

>>375888881
This

Rean's inherently a terrible character because Falcom shoehorned him into a role completely unfitting for his character's situation, thus he seems contrived and whiny. That, and he has no personality.

>>375888928
CS has way worse combat. It's easier on nightmare than FC on hard mode, and FC has the worst combat of all the non-CS games.

>>375888881
I thought Altina replaced Alisa?

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>>375888801
Already did. Maybe you should check the script.

>And I have put in far too much time and effort, all for this...

No mention of Estelle there at all.

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>>375886523
Its it more about the rebellion forces, since humans were slowly becoming invalid with all the pampering, especially with the serious plummet in birth rate.

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>>375889014
She's still around.
I'd honestly take Altina over Alisa anyway. Bringing emotion into an emotionless doll is fun.

>>375889028
Maybe you should play the game, instead of just watching a youtube video of one scene. Richard's entire motivation is
>the country doesn't have a strong leader like Cassius anymore so we're at risk of being invaded again

>chapter 3 pulling a radiant dawn part 4 on me

fuck
now i have to actually think about team composition

>>375889003
Less difficult doesn't mean worse combat. Tits combat feels slow as fuck.

I love the sky trilogy, but the combat also felt like a turn off for me. It's not the worst thing ever by any means, but it's not the best one of the series.

>>375888516
When I played FC and SC I had high expectations for Estelle because people kept hyping her up but she turned out to be a huge disappointment.

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>>375889106
>p-p-play the game!

Fuck off dude.

>>375889152
>Less difficult doesn't mean worse combat
When your game is literally devoid of challenge it does.
>Tits combat feels slow as fuck.
So is the Vita version of CS, maybe the PS3 version is better.
>it's not the best one of the series
Of course not, every game up until Ao made massive improvements over the previous, there was no downgrade until CS where they through out a ton of mechanics to dumb the game down for casual retards.

No because I'm a piece of shit that's only played Trails of Cold Steel I & II and not Trails in the Sky.

>>375889214
TitS is overhyped in general. Always make me laugh when anyone praises the writing as the be all end all of the genre, let alone gaming.

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>>375889272
If you're so self aware, then why not give sky a try?

>>375889331
Well, not knowing what makes a character good would do that.

I just wish we could replace Estelle with another character. At least Rean was actually good while Estelle was pretty bad gameplay wise. I'm so happy she's not permanent in the 3rd

>>375887004
>It appears as if the .ini setting FullAntiAlias=4 may be overriding Radeon AA settings
I was incorrect when I said this.
It appears as if Radeon AA settings are working on some screens and not working on other screens. On the screens they work on, they appear to override the .ini setting AA. On the screens they do not work on, the .ini setting AA kicks in. Still bizarre.

>>375889003
>CS has way worse combat
Cs improved the combat in every way

>>375889451
Wrong, it did nothing except remove features.

>>375889482
>Wrong, it did nothing except remove features.
It added features and made the combat flow a lot better

please tell me there isn't a shitton of missable content in this game

>>375889386

That's one thing I already love about The 3rd over FC/SC. Even with being only 3 hours in, Kevin is clearly a stronger character in battle than her.

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>>375889003
I'd be lying if I said I enjoyed Sky's combat over CS. Overall easier but harder at some points but I still found it satisfying.

>>375889386
Morale is pretty great tbfh.

>>375889610
>It added features
Wrong. It removed features and replaced features with inferior ones, but added nothing new.
>and made the combat flow a lot better
It has the same flow as Ao but with constant load times and framerate drops.

>>375889386
So you decided to stop arguing over whose character was better and just went to talking about the two in gameplay terms.

>>375889697
>harder at some points
No it wasn't. All of CS1 and 2 were a cakewalk on a fresh nightmare game while SC is a decent challenge on hard mode.

>game is basically a dungeon crawler
Wew glad I pirated. Money well saved.

Estelle is a jack of all trades you can turn into anything you want with orbments. Pretty much a sensible. I mean, she could've had Earth locked slots like Zane which made him just so unimpressive all-around. "I'm the tanky guy in a game where you don't really need a tanky guy!"

and yeah she had some AoE group support arts which were also good for pumping up the group. SLAP AGATE ON HIS ASS AND TELL HIM HE'S A BIG GUY

>>375889482
What features? It removed all out attacks, party member combo attacks, and multi-craft. Everything in Coldsteel was added in Zero and Azure.

>>375889864
It took me a bit to effectively break the game, cut me some slack.

>>375889845
I'm a different guy. I just came to the thread to talk about the 3rd.

>>375889967
Exactly. CS removed features from Zero and Ao and added nothing. It replaced combo crafts with the link system which is a win-more mechanic that adds no depth to the game in any way.

>>375889949
>Estelle is a jack of all trades you can turn into anything you want with orbments
That's nice and all but she has awful stats too

>>375889356
Because they seem more antiquated than CS and going any further back is painful since I don't really care for turn-based combat in the first place. I've just played 5,000,000 games with some flavor of turn based and it all blends together.

>>375890137
It replaced them with something better

>>375888881
>Estelle also gets backing because she's involved in a fully-fleshed out love story that also has her have better moments with her corny love lines.
Their love story wasn't anything to write home about

>>375890247
Nope. It removed support attacks entirely, it replaced combo crafts with a system that objectively adds no mechanical depth to the game, it removed sepith count entirely, and it removed combo S-crafts entirely.

>>375889949
Her stats stop her from being actually good. Joshua is also pretty much an all rounder, but he's super good.

They had the right idea with Zero/AO. Lloyd is also an all rounder, and has the exact same quartz slots position as Estelle, but instead of giving him shit stats, they actually made him have decent stats, and neat crafts.

>>375889949

But Estelle is still not particularly great at anything. Her stats are not amazing so she can't fill any given role all that well. Maybe if she had an excellent S-Craft like Phantom Raid, Dragon Dive, or Grail Sphere, then that could redeem her, but hers aren't that great, either.

>>375890383
I have no played cold steel yet but, from gameplay i saw, the sepith still falls off the enemy you beat. By no counter do you mean that we don't get to see how much quartz we get per battle?

>>375890363
It wasn't but it still completed a part of her character. That entire reunion scene with Estelle and Joshua carries more weight than any of the reunion scenes in CS.

>>375890225
>this is your average person born in the 90s
fuck these underage fucks

i don't care if you're over 18 you're an underage faggot to me

>>375890384
I want to play Zero and Ao so much. They seem to be huge improvements from TitS

>>375890425
>there are autists who unironically select parties based on stats
oy vey

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>Olivier's eccentricity is just a cover
Do we actually know what he suffered through other than being a bastard son of nobility?

>>375890449
No. Remember how quartz had sepith values which you had to combine to get arts? In Cold Steel quartz are just a dumbed-down version of Materia where the arts are attached to the quartz.

>>375890570
I'm 26 faggot, sorry I can't stomach another "turn based game but with one gimmick to mildly differentiate it from others".

I'm sure TitS has a decent enough turn based system and has a good story but fuck, I just can't get behind it anymore. Turn-based fatigue. Just like how I can't stand another WW2 shooter or shooters really at all anymore.

I wonder how short Kiseki games would be if the characters stopped holding back

>>375890384
>>375890158
She doesn't have awful stats, she just have all rounder stats.

compare her stat:
HP - ***
EP - ***
Str - ****
Def - ****
Ats - ***
Adf - ****
Spd - ***
Dex - ***
Agi - ***
Mov - ****
Rng - ***

To Joshua:
HP - ****
EP - ***
Str - ****
Def - ***
Ats - ****
Adf - ***
Spd - *****
Dex - ***
Agi - ***
Mov - ****
Rng - *

Joshua isn't an all rounder, he's clearly offense oriented with rather low ADF, which was made up with higher HP vaules.

>>375890384
Lloyd is borderline overpowered once he learns Burning Heart 2 and completely broken in CS2 due to how easy it is to regenerate CP in that game.

>>375890742
That's an improvement.

>>375888918
don't bully sara

>>375890717
>nobility
You mean royalty

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>>375890742
Seriously? That's kind of sad. I loved how i was able to mix quartz around and feel like "but i'll miss out on these skills if i swap this one out" while play Sky.

>>375890742
Do you actually care about sepith count? Removing that was an improvement

>>375890812
Final Fantasy refugee get out

>>375890823
Yeah, I just wanted a broader term.

>>375890761
Estelle's weapon have lower base damage though. But that becomes a non issue since ultimate weapons gets max damage roll.

>>375890761
The problem with being an all-rounder is that damage calculations in Trails are additive rather than multiplicative. So someone with 1000 strength attacking someone with 900 defense does significantly less damage than someone with 1000 strength attacking the same target. It's why buffs have such a dramatic effect in the game.

HOLY SHIT THE LENGTH OF THESE STORY SECTIONS. MY DICK IS DIAMONDS.

>>375890742
I miss having Olivier having a fuckhuge list of spells he could use since I gave him a shitton of lvl 5 quartz.

>>375890812
It's only an improvement if you're literally too stupid/lazy to do arithmetic. Otherwise it's objectively a downgrade.

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>>375890758
>BREAKING: Former military general, Cassius Bright murders his own daughter during what was supposed to be staff training practive
>"I-I just couldn't hold back..."
>Also, the body of a black haired boy was found, the boy having seemingly been killed by severe blunt force trauma. Authorities are still investigating the cause of death, but it's belived the boy tried to engage someone in battle

>>375890861
Yes, I like my magic system to have some amount of depth and thought put into it rather than just being a simplified version of materia.

>>375891189
>Spec. Ops Captain Laurence slaughters his way to victory in the Tournament!

>>375890158
Her mom must have had some shitty genes

>>375890915
>So someone with 1000 strength attacking someone with 900 defense does significantly less damage than someone with 1000 strength attacking the same target.
Meant for that second one to be 1100, not 1000.

Point is someone having twice the difference in stats between the other results in way more than twice as much damage, even though you'd think it wouldn't.

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>Oh finally a decent sibling relationship, what an honest rarity in this series
>CS2
It's a shit life

So how to import save from SC to TC? I played it on another comp.

>>375891481
Estelle actually have a pretty high strength growth that is hampered by her weapon tend to have somewhat low base damage.

>>375890758
>Thors Instructor accidentally maims students during pop quiz, investigation pending

>>375891763
Yeah, once you get her ultimate weapon Hard Break 2 hits pretty hard. Any time before she has Hard Break 2 she simply doesn't hit very hard compared to anyone else due to shitty crafts.

>>375881547
I already bought it.
I just need to finish SC.

>>375891150
Nah it's better the way CS does it.

>>375891847
Comet was actually pretty nice since it pierced through defenses. I almost felt bad for not using it and only started to in the last leg of SC.

>>375883307
>Watch the flooring
To clarify this, the last phase of the final boss has a Set AOE attack (that won't track any character) which you absolutely should dodge.

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>>375891930
Might be safe to assume he already got him down.

>>375891189

>BREAKING NEWS: Members of a police unit, the Special Support Section, were all found dead tonight. All of the corpses were found to have similar boring wounds, as if pierced by a giant lance.

Who should I take with me in the beginning of SC?

>>375891189
>The Infernal Castle has somehow burnt itself out from the inside killing every one inside!
>Reports hear accounts of the words All of me being screamed during the conflagration

>>375887126
>"the power of friendship and love can beat anything"
I thought that's Lloyd's territory?

>>375891847
That was more because other characters have damage multipliers on their more single target focused abilities.

Estelle's crafts tend to have multiple effects and AOE. I guess hard break doesn't have much noticeable multiplier because of the AOE attribute.

Hurricane have rather low base damage because it have massive AOE AND you can aim it pretty much anywhere on the field, unlike many other AOE craft which requires a target.

>>375892136

Agate if you want fights to be arguably faster, Schera if you just want the hotter body and smoother personality for a part of the story.

>>375892361
Agate actually combos well with Schera since pretty much all of his crafts have massive delay after usage (despite the fact he does have rather high base speed)

>>375892156
That's the power of determination/hardwork like a shounen protag. Estelle is friendship. Rean is friendship /class7

>>375892156

Lloyd's power isn't friendship, it's being the clueless harem lead character. Every bit as deadly.

>>375881547
I own TitS, did not finish it (~20 hours played), and have been lax on watching SC prices. What are the chances these games go on sale this summer?

>>375890363
The actual romance between them, later on in SC, isn't particularly standout, but it's believable, gets the job done, and helps shed light on important characterization for both characters. I wonder if they're going to have more adult development in 3rd and Zero.

>>375889656
Make sure to read books when they appear in the library at the Hermit's Garden, starting in Chapter 2. The missables this time around are just accessories IIRC, and they can help at end-game but not that much before.

>>375892542
Estelle concludes with an argument of communal self-preservation and improvement, aka what Toal asserts at the end of Ys Origin, which Weissmann denies (unsuccessfully) cuz he's a Darwinian/Hobbes pessimist.

>>375892361
How many of you take Agate for the Wild Rage + S-craft abuse against Shinning Poms?

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>how would you like your trails?
>give me that CA and phosphor blur

>>375892542
>>375892720

Wow, it's almost like the whole series is full of cliches or something.

>>375890812
No, it's anything but.
I genuinely enjoyed CS and CS2 but the quartz system is something I never really got over.

>>375892906
Welcome to fiction.

>>375892981
I'm not complaining.

>>375893005
Neither am I. It's just kinda sad that CS couldn't pull off those cliches as well as the previous games.

>>375886782
Then why hasn't it been released yet?

>>375893103
They sold the translation to NISA.

>>375886782
It got picked up by Gu4n and co. and they're redoing the entire thing since the translation that was "finished" was extremely poor and used completely different terminology from Xseed/Falcom.

>>375893192
Well, NISA already stole Ys from XSeed, so that wouldn't surprise me.

>>375890717
How many times did Olivert and Schera bump uglies?

>>375893192
[citation needed]

when the fuck is trails of cold steel coming out on steam

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>>375893478
Summer

>>375893478
Summer 2017, I.E, anywhere between 21 of June and 22 of September.

>Julia

Damn, I was really hoping for that second Tita.

>>375892826

i think FC has been down to $10 and SC has been down to $20 before. With the 3rd out maybe they'll drop to like $5/$15? the 3rd wouldn't have more than an encore of the 10% off

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Why is she so perfect lads?

>>375886723
In my region (Norway), the base price is 18 bucks.

>>375894215
>abandons her child for months and years at a time
>perfect
I bet you'd absolutely love to meet her bull.

>>375891719
Saved Games/FALCOM/ED6_SORA2 is where it will look for the save from SC.

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>>375894474
Thanks though I just made a regular ED6 folder and dropped my save there and I got the confirmation for transfer.

Is there a guide out yet?
I don't want to get cucked with missables

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>>375894215
I think you mean this cutie.

Is SC any decent? Or is it the same White Gehenna snore fest about traveling a country that's not really as interesting as they make it out to be.

>>375895174
If you didn't like FC, then don't bother

>>375895174
SC is high point of the series until we get Zero/Ao. FC is basically just one 40-50 hour long prologue to SC. With that said, if you hated FC you probably won't like SC.

>>375895117
>he doesn't check Gamefaqs first before asking

>>375895117
>not going in blindly on a first playthrough and saving a completionist run on nightmare for next time

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>>375881547
>$30
>for a 40-hour non-game
AYY LMAO

>>375895215
>>375895270
I didn't hate it, I was just very, very disinterested by the end after the story went into anime tropes and doing the exact same thing every battle over and over ad nauseam.

I don't mind trying it out if it's at least marginally different, but if it's another 50 hours of white gehenna and running around, then you're completely right, I wouldn't like it.

>>375895606
I got it for 26$
:3

>>375895606
>shits on TitS for being text heavy
>lists PS:T as one of the best games of all time
This board requires a minimum IQ of 65 to browse. Also, it's 60+ hours unless you rush it, and they've cut all NPC filler dialog in this one.

>>375882230
I usually don't mind JP only fags but fuck for minor shit like battle grunts and spell names they can get really fucking autistic.

ENG Estelle > JP Estelle

>あんですって lmao!

>Responding
You're all fucking idiots

>>375894076
I wasn't expecting more than 20% on the newest game but was hoping to grab the rest for $15 each.

The fuck is this slut's problem with Agate. If not for him Tita would probably be dead as he served as her and her grandfather's bodyguard for like half of FC.

It's just funny because she spent all that time fucking around while he protected her. "Uh I came as fast as I could". Yeah my ass.

Can you rename the characters in this?

>>375881547
nice shill

>>375896420
No.

>>375895956
>disabling voices entirely > eng voices > jp voices

>>375881547
Is this the final game? I was waiting till all of them were out in english

what happened to the NEVER EVER third game

>>375896554
This is the final game of the Trails in the Sky part of the series, and is the 'never ever third game'
It was released yesterday, on the 3rd, fittingly enough.

>>375896554
What happened is FC and SC sold nearly 500k copies across Steam and GOG, which is more than even Cold Steel 1 and 2 combined on PS3 and Vita in the west.

>>375895956
>あんですって lmao!
>Not knowing thats her catchphrase, its a damn segment on the kiseki radio.

>>375896508
Wow fuck this POS then.

>get trails in the sky when it first comes out on PSP
>don't get very far in it, lose my data somehow
>try again sometime later
>get about halfway through and data gets corrupted

Guess I'll try again on PC.

>>375896778
I WANT TO SELF-INSERT
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>375896709
No shit, doesn't keep the voice from being annoying though.

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>>375896778
gb2reddit with your shitty final fantasy games

>>375896807
The PSP version is shit anyway, you dodged a bullet.

>They keep responding

I just started chapter 1 in The 3rd. When do we get the save data bonuses?

>>375896837
Can't do anything about that then unless you go full english for future Estelle appearances.

>>375896834
>>375896910

Naming characters in RPGs is practically a feature. Fuck any "classic" series that forces their shitty names like "Kevin" and "Josh" on you. They're almost as bad as Travis.

>>375897207
>Naming characters in RPGs is practically a feature.
Only in shitty ones or games with namable self-insert MCs.

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>>375897386

I just posted a thread about this but if I enjoyed Disgaea & FFT, will I enjoy this?

>>375897503
Trails is a lot closer to the regular FF games than those.

The combat in this game feels way more fluid than the previous two, despite being more or less the same. Did they cut down on the annoying delays between input and action? Arts aren't a hassle to use anymore.

>>375897315
Are you calling FFVI and FFVII shitty?

>Ries's sister shoved her tongue down shota Kevin's throat

Fucking lewd.

>>375897709

How?

>>375881547
I heard it was shorter than FC/SC and also literally just a dungeon crawler, and yet it costs more than the first two games?

>>375897895
It's not a SRPG. It's basically Breath of Fire 3 with the movement and AoE spells and skills from 5.

>>375897895
Trails has no terrain height differences etc. It's a traditional turn based JRPG and not a SRPG.

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This fight was fun.

>>375881547
Ries is so cute. I want to feed her

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>>375895606
1/10 for effort

>>375898019
>>375898070

Oh right. Thanks guys.

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>>375897386

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most of these chest quotes are great, but some of them are also pretty meme-y

kloe's moon door is honestly fantastic. extremely close to home for me personally. fuck.

>>375899461
Why, did you get cucked?

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Cute

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hatsuu what the fuck

>>375898865
I've always hated the stupid chest messages.

>TitS3 was above Prey on the global top sellers list for a while
>top list is based on revenue
Pretty good, considering Prey is a AAA shitfest that's due for release in less than a day.

>>375881547
It's Renne's game though.

>>375899519
i acted similarly throughout college and ended up with very few friends.

>>375882230
>>375895956
I'm pirating the game just because of retards like you. Will pirate every other dubs only Falcom games as well from now on. Get fucked, retard.

The Third starts 6 months after SC, how much time passed between The Third ending and Cold Steel/Zero no Kiseki beginning?

>>375899804
It's obvious you're underage and without income. I bet your dad shoots heroine directly into his micropenis, spending what little money he has to escape the living hell he has created for the two of you a few times a month.

>>375899962
A few months that makes up to around 1-2 years I think

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>>375900018
Keep believing that :)

>>375900018
Huh, so this is how fans of this series behave huh?

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BTFO

>>375900145
Sure, you're the one who has to live with that reality. Lying on the internet, and on an anonymous imageboard no less, serves no purpose.

>>375897716
Many crafts are faster, and you've got S-Craft skip too. I'm personally using Cheat Engine to make things even quicker and to re-do the duel between Mueller and Julia, grr.

Chapter 2 reminds me a bit of the reused areas from the end of FFV.

That Ein that Kevin was talking to at the start was Ein from Carnelia?

>>375900741
My reality is I have more money than you may ever hope to get from your job at McDonald. I still won't support shitty dubbed games though. When I can just buy 10 copies of others game to support devs that actually care about their customers.

>>375900925
Maybe you should use that trust fund money to buy an education so you can stop being retarded. Perhaps you should study businesses and copyright laws.

>>375900925
Keep telling yourself that as you cry yourself to sleep, hoping to live in your internet dream world.

>>375900980
Yes, good goy, believe the greedy jews from XSEED. Meanwhile based Aksys and NISA give us dual audios for both Tokyo Xanadu and Ys VIII. I will gladly buy 10 copies of both those games just to support those good devs. Hopefully they still all the remaining Falcom games from XSEED as well, so they stop forcing their shitty English dubs unto us.
>>375901207
Poorfag please, stop being jealous.

>>375900925
>support devs that actually care about their customers

This is the silliest argument to make. Go complain to Falcom's voice actor licensing contract that would cost the XSeed more than the game itself to bring over.

>>375881547
I bought it, but I can't seem to get my full complete SC save data (sc from steam, bought 3rd on gog, transferred to stuff/falcom/ed_sora2) to be recognised by it so I can't get my loot bonuses..

>>375901236
Yes, I know you are retarded. That's what happens when your parents hand you thousands of dollars on a silver platter and never ask you to get educated.
>NISA
>good
>devs
Case in point.

>>375901239
Yet Aksys and NISA can give us the Japanese audios. REALLY MAKES YOU THINK!!!
>>375901376
They're better than XSEED at this point.

>>375901421
>They're better than XSEED at this point.
I'm surprised your parents allow you to throw around thousands of dollars when you're only twelve.

>>375901421
>NISA destroys literally every game they touch
>better than anything
lol

>>375901236
You're an absolute moron. Any riches you allegedly have must stem from suing the government after a nurse dropped you on your head as a newborn.

>>375901456
>>375901470
>retarded Vita retards
Opinion discarded.

>>375901613
What does the Vita have to do with anything?

>>375901653
Because you're clearly bitching over the Criminal girls games. Grow up. They're not going to censor any Falcom game, fucktard. And we'll have dual audio.

>>375901613
>retarded SJW retard
Opinion discarded.

>>375901720
NISA has butchered every game they've localized since the beginning of time, you fucking moron. 90% of their games have lazy shit translations, lack of dual audio (or dual audio with some scenes of japanese voices removed to make space for english ones), censorship, arbitrary changes to names and script for no reason, bugs, crasehes, and even literal console-destroying bugs.

Witch and the 100 Knights is literally unplayable thanks to them.

>>375887126
t.coldsteelbaby

>>375901720

I think people are more concerned over the fact they tend to add a bunch of game-crashing or console-melting bugs to the games they localize.

>>375901720
>They're not going to censor any Falcom game, fucktard
lol

>>375901720
It's not like NISA's been notorious for producing shitty localizations for longer than you've been alive or anything. Just imagine the trainwreck any story heavy Falcom game would be if handled by NISA.

This board is 18+. Leave.

>>375902352
I get a distinct feeling that ys is popular enough that someone will make a fan retranslation if nisa fucks it up too much, just like they did of neptunia rebirth 2.

>>375901312
someone? anyone?

>>375902545
lol

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>first boss turns into DPS/Grail Sphere check in its third phase without warning
>first phase of him is just designed to waste your time killing the ads

>>375901895
You're retarded. They haven't butchered any more games than Atlus yet I see nobody complaining about them.
>>375901947
>playing games on consoles
>>375902109
There's nothing to censor in Ys VIII.
>>375902352
Stop shitposting, manchild. NISA translations are no worse than XSEED.

>>375902545
>NISA literally butchers the game
>buys it anyway because of dual audio while REEEing about people not violating copyright laws
lol

>>375902654
>They haven't butchered any more games than Atlus
They have butchered far more games than Atlus
>yet I see nobody complaining about them
That's because you don't play Atlus games.

>>375902654
>NISA translations are no worse than XSEED.
I'd argue that NISA's translations are more accurate than XSEED, but boy when they decide to be liberal they go off the fucking rails, case in point the Mugen Souls replacing a characterization scene with "WOW WHAT PERVERTS WOULD WANT TO SEE US NAKED IN A BATH" because of the bitching at censorship.
XSEED are actually masters of localization in which they choose appropriate parallels.

>>375902654
>NISA translations are no worse than XSEED.
They absolutely are. Their translators are incompetent and can't into properly transposing cultural context.
>I don't know how to accurately translate this line to English, so let's just insert memes!

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>>375902654
>NISA translations are no worse than XSEED.

>>375902725
Last I recall people complaining about Atlus butchering Dungeon Travelers and that VNs were a minority.
>>375902762
>>375902845
>>375902867
I think the problem is you people keep pointing out Nick Doeer's editing of the past NISA games. However since he's not part of them anymore, there's no more of his meme edits. Thanks god he also left Idea Factory International, because I'll be honest I do agree what he did was retarded.