>You fell for the Ryzen meme

>>375878520
time to buy amd.

Should i buy AMD stock?

>>375878582
This

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>>375878641

>>375878582

time to buy was yesterday when it was under ten bucks

>>375878641
Yes, now is the time to buy buy buy.

That means the rx 480 and the fury are gonna drop in price then? Let those stocks tank then.

>>375878641
Wait a day. Might still go lower.

keep pretending you know how the stock market works, faggots.

>>375878582
you missed that by about 2 years.

>>375878641
Well, if they're on the decline, it could be decent to buy into them. Vega announced early June, so if it even spikes their stock prices, you could sell off again for a quick profit.

>>375878520
I'm going with a Ryzen 5 1600 with some basic B350 motherboard next month.
I'm hoping they release something good within the supposed 4 year lifespan of AM4 platform, because then I can buy the last compatible upgrade on AM4, then not having to worry again for years to come.
Here's to hoping, at least.

Their stock loss wasn't that massive.
What a meme article.

Built my intel rig just last weekend because I was tired of there CPUs bullshit performance

>>375880993
There's also Naples, the Zen based server platform coming out this quarter.

>>375881452

>losing 25% stock value in a day isn't massive

>>375881752
>this quarter
well damn, if that's the case, then AMD stock should hopefully shoot up higher or at the very least, just spike up, then crash back down so it'd be a decent time to buy their stocks

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I have $5000, do I pay off my student loans or do I buy AMD.

>>375878520
regretting jumping the train when they hit 14 a while ago, time to hop back on thanks for the heads up op

>>375882102
You should have invested that back when the stock was trading for $2.

>>375881807

It lost 2.5$ off 13.
So less than 25%.

is the 1800x better than the 7700k for gaming?

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>>375878520

>>375878641
>female CEO

No

>>375882389
change it to red

>>375882102
Buy ETH you idiot

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>>375882510

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>>375882583
gooddo jobbu

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where do i buy stock?

>>375882285
If I recall correctly, the 7700k is better for solely gaming

>>375882557
Can't even get away from memecoins when I'm not in biz wtf.

>>375882285
Yes

>>375882868
>150% gainz in 45 days
>meme

You're loss kohai

It will bounce back up as soon AMD announce the ryzen SoCs.

>>375878520

Stock Markets are artificially inflated, when they sink its to let people buy in before they release a new product, once they release the product it will flip flop for a few more months, then tank again before the release of another product so they keep getting more dum dums to buy into shares.

You guys are pretty fucking stupid if you buy shares, the only ones that are worth investing in are companies that skyrocket from nothing like facebook.

>>375884339

You know - if you don't know what the flying hell you are taking about, you don't HAVE to post something.

>>375878520
>every idiot in this thread not realizing that the only reason the price ever went up from $2 was because of hype and now that earnings was released and AMD still lost upwards of 38 million dollars investors finally got fed up of being sold promises and pulled out
Oh yeah buy now if you want to lose money

Fucking morons

>>375884339
How we identifie one of those "miracle" companies?

and btw amd pay dividens?

>>375884643
>expecting a months worth or ryzen sales to make of for all the months before
I doubt most people are that stupid.

>>375886017
>all the months before
You mean 5 years?

amd has gotta be the biggest fuck up of a company in the hardware tech industry.

>>375884339
Clearly you are poor as fuck and have never invested.

>>375886017
Even after a brand new CPU architecture they are still losing upwards of 40 million each quarter
Investors got tired of this shit

>>375878731
Also valid for
>le Intel strategy man

>>375878520
As an Intel user, this is actually disturbing.

If AMD ever bites the dust or doesn't pick up some more slack, Intel will end up having a global monopoly on major PC chip manufacturing. Sure there are other chip manufactures out there, but who the fuck else manufactures X86 - X64 architecture processors for home use?

>>375882276
That's fucking huge

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>>375878520
>don't want a monopoly in CPUs
>wouldn't be caught dead buying AMD hardware because not reliable for day one releases

>>375886329
AMDs stock a year ago was 3.60. It leveled off around 10.30 today. We wont see the effect of ryzen unti the next quarters report.

>>375886415
Also having Nvidia control Graphics cards.

Seems like if AMD doesn't make it, we got 2 monopolies going.

>>375886415
>le monopoloy may may be spooked guise
as much as intel is an isreali company, it's actual fully considered a US company and is subject to division under the law. If AMD goes, intel gets chopped up and put on a 3 centimeter leash. Then we will have legitimate competition
as of now intel actually gives large amounts of money to AMD, intel loves them. They are incredibly adept at being fuck ups so of course intel wants to just barely keep them kicking. but supporting AMD just cause "muh monopoly boogerman muh underdog" is fucking stupid since we won't actually get competition

inb4 just wait

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rip in peace

>>375886691
We already did see the affect of Ryzen, AMD is STILL losing money and will continue to do so as of their Q2 projections during their Q1 release

>>375886856
Ryzen 7 released in march. Ryzen 5 in april. We won't see the results until next quarter.

>>375886625
I'm with you

>>375886958
You seriously don't get how this shit works do you?

>>375886785
wait for it......

wait......


....
....
....
waaaiiittt fer ittt....
.....
SSSSSSSSSSEGA !

>>375887023
You seriously think releasing something at the end of the quarter significantly impacts that quarter don't you?

>>375886958
>Just Wait

>>375886785
>is subject to division under the law

We haven't had major antitrust breakups like that in literally 30 years.

And given Trump's anti-regulation appointments to the FTC, that makes it even more unlikely.

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>mfw amd goes bankrupt

>>375887079
>Company in the shit at the beginning of the quarter
>Both Ryzen 7 and 5 released
>AMD losses didn't budge at all during the end
Yeah really a game changer, just wait for next quarter, and next quarter, and next quarter

>>375886415
>implying Intel doesn't pretty much have the monopoly already

dude it's been since Sandy Bridge that there is no competition, Bulldozer crashed and burned for 5 years and Ryzen is meh for consumers and business doesn't care since workstations are using Intel nowadays and price is not an issue there.
Desktop are declining and notebooks are rising... do you see anything labeled AMD there? Not even mentioning the gpu market where Nvidia is doing almost as good Intel on desktop and is crushing the mobile owning 95% of the market

>>375887140
>>>375887140
>We haven't had major antitrust breakups like that in literally 30 years.
Becuase the government has successfully thwarted would be monopolies.

>>375887238
AMDs revenue went up over 18%.

>>375887363
Did you actually read the earnings report?

>>375887197
>yfw intel stops caring

>>375887412
Did you?

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>>375887439
>mfw

When I walk into Best Buy I see Intel's logo posted everywhere. AMD is no where to be found. Consumers are not aware that AMD exists.

>>375887315

That's a unique way to look at it.

I think a more nuanced person would say it's likely a combination of how political market regulation has become and the fact that the last time they tried it(breaking up bell) it went horribly wrong.

>>375887315
laughingamazon.sps

>>375887412
>revenue up
>net loss down
AMD is obviously moving in a positive direction m8.

>>375878582
>>375878641
Joke's on you, I bought it when it was $2 and sold it at $14. Still only made about $10K, though, couldn't afford more at the time.

>>375882102
Serious anwser? Loans. Whatever their interest rate is, its a guaranteed return of that %.

Unless its like, 3%, then inflation will outpace it so whyyyyy

>>375878520
AMD's demise isn't good, even if you're an intel fanboy. There's literally no other competition in the market, this will let Intel write their own checks and have full control of the market. You want more players in the market, not less.
Same with your shit for brains console wars. Monopolies only hurt you, the customer.

>>375878520
Wait I'm considering getting a Ryzen. Is it bad? Is that why the stock dropped?

>>375882749
The stock market

>>375878641
No, it normalized at 10, signs that it will grow higher are slim at this point.

>>375887439
Intel cares enough to push their entire roadmap up 4-6 months.

>>375888248
>demise
Their stock went fucking nuclear in the last year, this is just a return to reality after the euphoria fades

>>375888343
People bought in to the hype of ryzen being an intel killer. It's not but it did replace the i5s.

>>375887197
People have been saying that for the past decade. It's not happening anytime soon, especially now that they have a decent architecture out. Their server chips are gonna make them insane money.

>>375878520
>ryzen announced
>wait months
>i7-7700k drops $100 off the price
>buy i7-7700k
>annihilates every single ryzen cpu

really made me ponder.

>>375888343
No. It's speculators doing what they do best, manipulating stock prices.

>>375888520
>intel
>price cuts
lel

>>375888343
amd stock was in a bubble because the anticipation that Polaris and Ryzen were causing after several absolutely terrible years.

ryzen processors are fine. I would get ryzen over an i3 or i5, but I wouldn't buy it over an i7.

>>375888432
>Literally only CPU worth buying in the last 10 years
>It's not better than i5
I5 was replaced by fucking G4560 and i3.
It's can't even compete with Intel, Ryzen is killing i7 and and shit like 6900k

Should have shorted AMD

>>375888520
Intel will never drop a i7 $100 bucks, even to fuck over AMD. They would rather discontinue it and let it die off then to ever do such a discount for people.

>>375888570
it was literally 100 dollars off. it's on sale a lot actually.

>>375888419
I know, that was targeted towards fanboys wanting some company dead because mommy bought them the competing brand.

>>375878520

Hit $2 again so I can make some mone

>>375878520
so when is the government dividing intel and nvidia?

>>375888635
Microcenter doesn't count. There were no price cuts from INTEL.

>>375888635
That was just a micro center sale.

>quality of a product is determined by the stock value of the company that made it

>>375888727
>>375888747
i don't know what that is. are you guys retarded?

>>375888248
It sounds like you're implying Intel doesn't already write their own checks. I can't remember the last time AMD put something out that shook or even impacted Intel or nVidia

>>375887197

Even if you're a diehard Intelshill this is still a really stupid and asinine mentality to fall behind. Healthy competition is good for the industry and the consumer as a whole. The consumer is already getting fucking shafted left and right when there's only two viable computer hardware giants, can you imagine the fucking insane prices you'll have to pay for hardware when there's only one company making them?

wasn't Ryzen 5 doing very well in gaymin benchmarks? what gives

>>375888829
>not knowing micro center
Apparently you are.

>>375888829
It's a website that did 100bux sale, for pick up only.
Here is price of 7700k, I fail to see any sales

https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Intel-i7-7700K-QuadCore-Cache-Processor/product/B01MXSI216?context=search

>>375888964
i'm not american you overweight moron. get a clue.

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>>375886850
>NVIDIA JewWorks is now in the process of killing off AMD
>they will get away with it. no consequences or anything
I fucking hate AMD for not releasing a high end card for more than a year. But fuck me we're all going to end up paying 890 bucks for mid range cards at this rate.

Isn't Ryzen's thing that they're as good as certain Intel processors but draw less power and are half the price or something?

>>375888934
This is stock, AMD has volatile stock because it just grew.

>>375889016

>AMD dies
>Intel and Nvidia gets sued for monopoly
>have to pay billions

No, AMD isn't going to die.

>>375886625
>consoles run on AMD hardware
>console ports somehow run worse on AMD than they do on Intel/Nvidia

Explain this

>>375889016
AMD had better hardware for majority of that chart, what good did it do?

>>375889015
Ok, then prices on some shit that Paco is selling from the back of his van don't count.

>>375889016
>nvidia actually made gameworks shit open source

>>375889157
nothing cause of "Nvidia JewWorks" and "The way you're meant to be played". AMD sat back and did nothing while NVIDIA went and copied INTEL's scummy AMD-slaying tactics.

>>375889335
AMD was always for open-soruce, non-jew practices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNhubpzhs-Q

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>>375882389
good
>>375882583
better

>>375889125
Intel has better single thread performance which is more important for the majority of games.

>>375889535
Multithreading has become pretty common. The i5s are already getting maxed out in games. 4 threads is nearing the end.

>>375886850
>posting 2015 chart
AMD has like 30% market share now, will probaby go higher once vega is out as well.

>>375888934
Ryzen hasn't been out for long so it is mostly unaccounted for, especially with motherboard compatibility problems. Plus big stuff like Naples and Vega is next quarter. I am still sad though since even though I got out of AMD last month the AMD drop affected my NVDA stock as well.

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>>375889778
This.
i5s are meme status now, R5s are the sweet spot, i7 if you want to go all out.

i7 7770k is like 10% cheaper than Ryzen 7 1700x in my country.
For someone who don't really stream and render shit or handbrake animu crap, intel is the better choice currently.
Overclocking the ryzen seems pointless anyway, chip is costing more than the intel and i still have to fuck around to get extra performance ? no fucking way.

>>375890074
You do know, that you still have to OC 7700k to get best out of that?

should've bought a mac, gaming is moving over to it slowly anyways

>>375890074
then go for the Intel rather than bitching about it on a korean breakdancing forum

>>375890260
I don't even see how this could be you trolling or spouting memes so you must just be that retarded. Instead of a mac, buy a gun and shoot yourself with it.

>>375888859
>It sounds like you're implying Intel doesn't already write their own checks.
It would be 10 times worse without AMD out there.

How are AMD's stocks so low compared to Nvidia when AMD makes the hardware for both current-gen consoles?

>stocks goes up more than 500%
>a bit of a pitfall and virgins are already shitposting on /v/ about AMD's demise

>>375890705
The dirty little secret is that AMD was desperate for money, so desperate that they gave a good deal to both companies so they could get any money, so they're not swimming in money with those console deals.

>>375890705
Stock price isn't as important as market capitalization, but Nvidia is still miles ahead of AMD in market capitalization because they have much more presence in other sectors like the server and AI departments, as well as in speculative areas such as self-driving cars. Profit margins for consoles are also extremely low.

>>375889880
>i5's are a meme
>chart has the current flagship i5 leading the closest AMD CPU by 24 frames
what?

>>375890074
than you might as well get an i5 or 1600. Not like you're using multi-threading

>>375891025
>what are mins

>>375891025
>inevitable, long-lasting spikes down to single-digit-framerates

>>375891025
Enjoy that stutter friend.

>>375891025
I think he's trying to show the really low min fps on the i5 and i7, which doesn't really say much because it's a bug in GTA5's Rage engine with some intel processors. Gamersnexus did a video on this

>>375891025

>I can't read charts

Did you see that small little red bar that say min (fps)?

Enjoy your frame drops.

>>375890992
I don't quite get what Nvidia is doing with self driving cars. Are they just making the computers for car manufacturer's to install their operating systems on and integrate with their cars? Are they making the computers and the operating systems?

>>375891238
in other words, people cherrypicked benchmarks of a single game for shock effect

>>375891238
Min FPS is literally irrelevant though, my i5 7600K has never given me a single stutter. Granted, I don't keep a resource-hog browser like Chrome running with 30 tabs of 4chanX-enabled /v/ threads, maybe some people here do.

>>375891238
Nope. He was just guessing that the game ran so fast it caused stuttering.

>>375891304
pretty sure nvidia is doing it for rendering the world around the car or something

>>375891304
They make the hardware for self-driving cars, and they have contracts with companies like Ford and Tesla to work on it, but they also work on the AI and software for it.

>>375891437
right, so the point is that the game performs fine (with good minimums/lows) as long as you don't pass something like 190+ fps. It's once you get past that point (which happens when you test the game with monster cards like titans) that you get the terrible performance

>>375891318
They still recommend r5s over i5s so even if that was the case it's not much of a win.

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Within a month I will guarantee you it will be back to 2$

>>375891790
https://youtu.be/11NfsMykyAk

>>375890258
How much of an OC ? since the review's Ive read showed stock vs stock intel wins except heavily multi-tasking which average pc gamers won't do.

>>375890348
Wow, much butthurt "AMD" homo ? My money do the talking and choosing sides.
Wait...are you the "Pajeet" everyone warned about ? Are you sure you're in the right place ? this is /v/, not /g/.

>>375891032
At least you get it. As I see it now low end the i3 takes the cake, mid being the ryzen 5 and highend is both sides depending on usage.

>>375891025
>>375891174
>>375891198
>>375891208
http://www.pcgamer.com/why-minimum-fps-can-be-misleading/

Read up, homos.

>>375892107
t. someone who has never invested

>>375892378
>Read up, homos.
The entire article can be summed up by "stutters don't matter because it's not consistent". Which is fucking retarded.

>>375892378
Because if you buy an i7 K and you don't overclock it, you are essentially wasting your money and might as well buy an non-K CPU

>>375892278
tl; dr?

Probably because of the Vega leak, where it was revealed that the highest end model can't even compete with a GTX 1070. They should stop producing PC GPUs and continue providing for consoles instead.

>>375878520
maybe they should have made ryzen compatible with operating systems people who are into computers enough to buy brand new CPUs actually use.

>>375892932
You see big 100ms spikes in intels frame times but not on ryzen. That's pretty much it.

>>375892896
But 20 bucks in USD difference ?
Is it better to have it and not need it than not having it when need ? no ?

>>375892725
Which isn't unless you're a l33t fag who demands top tier 100% no sub 30fps min, then I advice you to wait for 2020 cpu/gpu and play 2017 games.

>>375893221
thanks. Yeah, gta5 can be weird with intel processors under some specific conditions.

>>375892378
>Wow, much butthurt "AMD" homo ? My money do the talking and choosing sides.
Not butthurt about anything really. You come on here to bitching about Ryzen from a personal stand-point and nothing else. R7 1700 (non-X) costs the same as the 7700k, and they both perform similarly. Also, considering AMD plans to keep their primary focus on AM4 for the next supposed 4 years, if you go for Ryzen you won't need a new motherboard with every new CPU line-up.
There's no reason to buy Ryzen 7 if you're solely playing games. You buy whichever is going to benefit your use-case, which in yours is gaming. Meanwhile, Other people will go for Ryzen for the sake of decent multi-core performance in relation to Intel.
>Wait...are you the "Pajeet" everyone warned about ? Are you sure you're in the right place ? this is /v/, not /g/.
What I did was assure you to go for a better processor for your specific use-case. That doesn't make anyone a "Pajeet". It's a shitty response, and you're genuinely retarded if you have to respond to calling someone that.
>why-minimum-fps-can-be-misleading/
Minimum framerates matter because you don't want to have a game drop to lower than acceptable framerates from the typical smooth framerates you're playing at. That entire link can fuck off, all it says is some essentially "something that's not supposed to happen happens inconsistently.

>>375893485
Why would you chose stuttering over not stuttering? You actually think you'll notice the difference between 116fps and 121fps averages?

>>375889125
Because games don't work like that.

>>375881452
>>375882276
that's xboxhueg. I can't wait for the Ayymd meme to be dead. Let the FTC nuke Nvidia and bring some genuine competition on the market.

>>375893793
>You actually think you'll notice the difference between 116fps and 121fps averages?

No i don't i barely notice between 50 to 60 either. As long the game isn't running 15 to 30 fps it's very very playable.

Fuck the stock market
fuck speculation

>>375893561
>That entire link can fuck off, all it says is some essentially "something that's not supposed to happen happens inconsistently.

Cool down and take some chill pill.
From the looks of you are the top-tier-elite who have nothing to worry except he doesn't want his frames to drop below 60fps at all, not one bit. I can see you point of view.

Homo, hahaha.

>>375893505
Specific conditions of the cpu being nearly maxed out and something trying to load in most likely.

>go on /g/ cpu thread
>massive argument breaks out
>ryzen vs Intel equivalents
>people start shitposting about i5s being a "stuttery mess"
>one guy claims every i5 owner can verify this
>tell him I own an i5 and my games are perfectly fine
>"I-INTEL S-SHILL!!11!!1"
>ask how I'm a shill when I'm stating an observation
>goes off on one about how I bought Intel over ryzen and I'm a shill because of that
>somehow me buying an i5 3 years ago even before ryzen was announced makes me an Intel shill because I didn't wait 3 years for a cpu I didn't even know existed

The absolute state of /g/ and amd pajeets.

>>375894158
Or something about intels architecture gtav does not like when the cpu is under heavy load.

>>375894136
>Cool down and take some chill pill.
Not at all mad, more disappointed, but otherwise I hold no emotional attachment to simple text I post on here. You're a tad dim if you think there's any correlation between 'long-winded text' and 'anger'
Considering I only have an R5 1600 & RX 480 4GB, I'm not a "top-tier-elite" like you might assume. FPS drops are fine, so long as they stay in the moderate double-digits.
>Homo, hahaha.
I thought you were replying to me, not yourself. Don't be so brash.

>>375894471
>implying /g/ is capable of anything but shill-calling and consumerism
It's on both ends. "Ryzen hurr durr" and Intel shills shit all over it. "Intel hurr durr" and AMD shills shit all over it.
There's no escaping.

>>375878520
That guy has an odd name. Who spells it tomi other than faggots

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>>375894471
AMD is one big meme, because AMD is the incompetent underdog people love supporting the shit company as opposed to just letting the market forces do their thing and kill that pathetic entity off.

>>375894547
>I have an R5 1600 & RX 480 4GB
Yes, and you spend your time shilling for AMD instead of playing vidya

>>375894158
you think so? If you look at videos of cpu utilization of the 7700k in gta 5 you'll see that it never really reaches 100%. Core utilization hovers around 40-80%. Maybe, though, I don't know.

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What's a good CPU to upgrade from an i5 3570k to?

>>375892107
I don't understand the "advanced" part of the company's name

>>375878641
ye before vega

>>375894658
>going on /v/ because you only play video games
I spend my time on the computer editing photos and videos for friends and work, rendering any animations I get paid to, watching youtube/netflix, and play an occasional game with friends on dual-1080p monitors.
You jump to the assumption I do fuck all, while not knowing what you're talking about.
Not once have I shilled for AMD. What I said about them is literally use-case-oriented, nothing else. If you play games, sure, go for the best single-core performing option for the money. All I've seen you do is anti-AMD shitposting, so how about fuck off and go back to your games so you don't need to stress your brain any further with responding. Cheers bud.

>>375894708
Multiple games have shown worse frame times with ryzen but were consistent while intel sees spikes. Could be something with intels architecture than devs need to work around or it causes problems.

>>375894547
>I'm not a "top-tier-elite" like you might assume.
>FPS drops are fine, so long as they stay in the moderate double-digits.

Okay you proved me point and chat later, homo.

>>375895145
My point in the entirety of what I posted was shit spikes. What was shown was a graph of the Intel equivalent having spikes down to single-digits. Not once did I say anything sub-60 wasn't playable.
>homo.
Thanks for reassuring me of your mental illness bud.

>>375895145
>>375895467
Just fuck already holy fuck