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What server (NA) should I make a character on?
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>>375872335
Sarg
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Anything but Balmung. Avoid that shit like the plague.
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>>375872631
That's not super high pop is it? Is it decent in terms of end-game fights?
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>>375872723
this

Just don't choose Balmung
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>>375872752
It's not super high pop, no. I think it is considered one of the higher ones though. Can't say anything about endgame myself. I've heard Gilgamesh is full of cancer.

This may help you https://ffxivcensus.com/
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>>375873063
Looks like it's in a good spot with active players, thanks.
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>>375872335
Balmung is the biggest and most populated server.
Transfer there to avoid the ghost towns
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>having to do PvP for Garo sets
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>>375872335
Gilgamesh if you want to level crafters.
Any server that isn't Balmung if you want to be a jewish overlord in low-mid population servers.
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>>375872335
None.

Game is shit and everything is on wait timers in order to keep you paying a sub fee.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_urdvA6FPXQ
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My suffering is finally over bros.
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>>375872752
Sarg is only good if you can get into 7th Heaven, in which case statics everywhere and endgame is easy
Outside of that one FC I don't think there's much else for you, maybe Legacy is good
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Gilgamesh if you want people to play with, balmug if you want to erp with futa cats
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>>375872335
Avoid Aether Data Center. All cancerous NA servers are on it.
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>>375875532
Nerd that couldn't hack it in aether detected.
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>>375872335
balmung
best server NA
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>>375875532

This. Plus Aether servers are mostly dead as well.

Ignore this autist: >>375875668
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>>375874987
Have you managed to get the new pup minions from The Feast? Is it hard to get them? Worried since expansion will make the queues dead.
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>>375872335
Girugamesh
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>>375875532
But Ultros is on Primal.
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>>375876195
What's wrong with Ultros?
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>find out world of darkness is actually an easter egg from an old final fantasy game
damn ive played this for 3 years and didnt know this, any more cool references like this in the game?
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>>375875881
I haven't been able to do much feast since season 1 since the prime times for it don't mesh with my work schedule and it's queues just fucking die at some point. Your best bet is right when a new season starts, I don't know if 8v8 has been going for a while.
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>>375876305
/vg/ hangs there
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>>375876373
I love this post
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>>375876373
Yes, literally everything in this game is taken from a previous, superior, Final Fantasy.
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Don't come to malboro it sucks here
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>>375876482
>X
>superior
>II
>superior
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>>375876536
incidentally, those have the least amount of content taken from them, followed by 8.
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>>375875881
took me 3 days to get
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>>375876381
8v8 was super active when role restrictions were removed on my data center. I haven't done it recently though so it could have died down.
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>>375872335
I like being passive aggressive intentionally, especially when I'm a fem Aura, it's pisses people off so quick. You can also tell who is a /v/ fag so easily from it.
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>that feel when no staff melee class

I want to hit people with a stick while wearing robes.
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>>375877712
You could fake it with a drg and the sun wukong dlc.
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Ardashir is a whiny faggot.
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pls b in zalera
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who ODIN here
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>>375877712

it was an idea at one point
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Where is the best source to look into ffxiv lore beside the book?
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>>375878203

the game
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Excalibur is nice.

Its pretty populated and not filled with gay ERP like Balmung
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>>375878286
Isn't excalibur just gilgameme rejects?
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>>375878203
That's pretty much it.

The lore book and the game itself.
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>>375878203
ethys
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>>375878284
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>>375878513
I guess this is the fewer choice left. Might as well listen while I do my homework.
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Best stats for 3.0 NIN relic?

Full Crit/DET or full Crit/SkSp?
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>>375878784
max crit max det rest acc

nin despises sks
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>>375878513
>>375878632
Ethys is the Vaati of FFXIV. He just makes shit up and puts his headcanon forth as fact, ignoring the actual lore that proves him wrong. Fuck him.
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>>375878203
This post, really. Sounsyy has nearly every piece of relevant dialogue all the way back from 1.0 archived. Use the tumblr links they've posted for shitloads of obscure info.
http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=17897
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>>375878203
Anonmoose guy on the forums/gamerescape. You can basically ask any question on the forums and if someone else doesn't answer you, he will after checking his notes.
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>>375876373
There is not enough space in the post field to list all the FF3/4 references alone.
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drawfag here, I'm bored and need some warm up. Request me an NPC and i'll do a head shot portrait if I can.
>>375879103
>>375879052
Thanks I'll keep a check on these.
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This or WoW?
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>join like 30 10s """farm""" parties to finish monk set
>none of them clear
Why do retards that don't know the mechanics keep joining farms? Fuck off scum.
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>>375879323
Khloe
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>>375879357

because stupid people are too stupid to know how stupid they are
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>>375878174

>stavesman

how fucking lame
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>>375879559
pretty much this
that group will disband and every single person will think "damn, we didn't clear because all those guys are bad"

good thing parsing is banned, wouldn't want people to identify any problems
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>>375879765
Nakata wanted his own special snowflake classes and didn't want to use iconic FF names, so you got dumb shit like that.

Thank god he's gone.
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>>375879894

I don't know anything about pre-ARR shit. Were the base classes like Lancer, Pugilist, etc all there were?
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>>375879894
The idea was that you'd mimic the FF jobs yourself by equipping the skills needed. 'Classes' in 1.0 were just sets of skills that you could then equip however you wanted with any other weapon. So if you wanted to play a RDM, you'd equip a sword and crossclass THM and CNJ abilities.
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>>375879969
Originally, yes. There were only classes, and they wanted you to be able to crossclass any skills with any weapon however you wanted. You also had a Physical level separate from classes that you distributed your core attributes with. So STR, DEX, etc were independent from whatever class you were at the time.
The jobs were implemented closer to the end of 1.X, and were intended for use in parties while you were supposed to still use base classes while playing solo for more versatility.
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>>375879323
Khloe
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stop playing WHM
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>>375880151
what is even the point of the attribute system anymore, everyone just stacks one stats with their points
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>>375880374
Forgot pic
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>>375880407
There is no point. In 1.0, each core stat effected several different things, and the weapon damage of each class depended on two different core stats. PGL/MNK used to use both STR and DEX to determine damage.
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>>375880427
>>375880374
so it was you all along.
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>mfw some people are actually nostalgic for 1.0
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Stop playing DRK.
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stop playing WHM
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>>375880647
Just nostalgic for what could have been. Nobody thinks 1.0 was good, but some of us saw the potential and wish Yoshi would've continued on with his 1.19 and 1.23 direction instead of a WoW clone.
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>>375880647
I'm nostalgic for 2.1-2.5

There are some things I liked about 1.X but on the most part, ARR improved upon it. But now for HW, Square doesn't want to take any risks and the game is so fucking stale that there's nothing exciting to look forward too really.
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>>375880748
No.
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>>375880647
it always seems to flare up around the expac lull. Most of my knowledge of 1.0 comes from waiting for Heavensward.
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>>375880407
Healers/DPS in PvP may choose to put their points in VIT instead of primary stat for a little extra survivability.

Other than that there is none.
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>>375878784

>skill speed on NIN

don't even think about it
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>join Zurvan EX farm
>hop on discord with them
>drunk girl, everyone laughing and giggling
>the drunk girl is doing sub 1000 dps on BRD, groups overall having trouble
>step out
>do expert roulette
>hi ^_^
>hay qt <3
>0 dps whm, mnk can't keep stacks up on stationary targets, pld doing about 400
>leave without a word after the first trash pull
I think I'm just done
I don't think there's any place for me anymore, I'm too cynical and too far gone to handle this like I used to
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>>375881654
>playing a MMO alone

Make friends to be cynical and too far gone with.
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>>375872335
If you wanna play Solo and enjoy the story play Lamia, but for the love of god do not try to do raid content on it every static is full of man children. Was in a group that cleared a12s relatively early after unlock but holy shit literally everything was fought over. Thought it was just my group have been in 6 statics since and every single one on Lamia has just been a shit show of people trying to power wank on the others. When I finally got my tank BiS done I left and have never joined another static fuck that. They would even argue over established loot order every clear. Jesus my time in statics was like a fucking fever dream.

Also they're all thirsty as fuck so if you are a girl avoid Lamia even more first 3 statics it was me and the same tank who happened to be a girl and we rarely used our mics for actual talking, I just did call outs. All first three groups were torn to shreds because the soulless virgins had to have a dick measuring contest all the time over everything as soon as they found out she was female.

Come to think of it after typing all this out I may just hate MMO communities.
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>>375881785
I did, I always do, but they just quit
I lost my first static after clearing FCoB, second static after clearing Gordias and third static after Midas
I just came back myself and I have some connections but sometimes I just wanna play with randoms
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Fucking when
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>>375882337
>Every new hairstyle added during SB's life is going to be maximum weeb
if cats don't get a hime cut I am going to scream
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>>375882337

$19.99.99 on mog station please look forward to it
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>>375882462
you won't, autistic manchild
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>>375882462
>playing a cat ironically or unironically
ishygddt
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What do I do now that I hit 60? I have my kinna weapon but what am I supposed to do? Finish MSQ?

I wasted a bunch of MGP on Modern Aesthetics: Ponytails but I don't like it.
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>>375881893

I know that feeling. Every FC I've been in since 2.1 has had drama, people quitting due to life situations, and people who decided they'd rather spend their time in an RP FC rather than a casual/mid-core content one. I always end up alone with the keys to the house and everything in it and I just get sad. I kept the FC house this time because it's in a nice spot but if someone offered me enough gil I'd probably accept the deal, transfer the ownership to them, and live the rest of my days as a nomad. I can't have fun with all those kids going "haaaaay XD" and shit. All my friends have come and gone and I'm the only one still here. I mean I'm hype for SB but I have no delusions about finding another group to play with. After a few months I'll be the only one still active anyway.

Maybe I'm just getting too old for it all.
27 years old and I still play this game with weebs and stupid kids everywhere.
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>>375882705
you need the helmet for that set since your head looks three times too small for your body
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>>375882337
end of may
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>>375881654
You're not cynical, you're just autistic
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>>375882705
>Finish MSQ?
yes that
also hildebrand
also mhach, alexander, containment bay, hard versions of 50+ dungeons

really just look around idyllshire for plus marked quests
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>>375882462
>Every new hairstyle added during SB
Benchmark shows the two hairstyles that will be added on 4.0 and they are mhigger as fuck.
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>>375882587

They release enough shit in the game itself that I only get mildly annoyed when they make stuff available only on the Mogstation. Won't deny that it feels shady as fuck that they have a cash shop on top of a monthly sub though.
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>>375882803
>First fc joined and stay for a long time
>Everyone was very close when it was still small
>sudden drama from left to right
>leaders became inept and I was the only one left to moderate fc
>everyone beginning to disappear, then I eventually left too.
>been jumping through many fc and server and still havent found a comfy place to stay.
Sigh I'm exited for SB too, but have no one to get excited with.
which world server are you in man?
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>>375883164

Gilgamesh. An irl friend was on the server way back so that's where I've stayed.
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>>375882951
Sub-1000dps discord brainlet detected
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>>375876305
Nothing, it's a normal mid pop server.
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I already know faggots will be in the weeb city on the roof tops in their naruto glamours
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>>375876402
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>>375881806
Yeah I don't want to join a static I usually don't like the people in them something always feels off about them. I'd rather just pug stuff while having a casual FC for socializing and doing casual content.
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>came back to the game 2 weeks ago
>blm main 180 ilvl
>start doing shit and realize how far behind I am
>finish MSQ unlock other shit get lore tokens and stuff on the way
>254 ilvl now
>still have a long way to go
>start parsing my damage
>am beating most people on fights I have little experience in
>look at some of their gear
>It's better than mine comparatively
>remember I'm surrounded by fedoracore anime pro brainlets
>consider cancelling my stormblood preorder

It's really sad when my baseline effort puts me ahead of most of the brainlets that play this game. I'm not even that good everyone else is just really bad.
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>>375883940
You gotta remember some people don't even attack on GCD, and even more can't do anything that even resembles a rotation. Then they complain about combat being slow or boring.
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>>375883940

Who the fuck cares how bad everyone else is, just do good yourself and be friends with people who are good as well.
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>Need to finish getting DRG to 60
>Need to finish grinding Alex NM to have my drg semi-geared for when it hits 60
>Need to do all my weeklies
>Need to start levelling DRK
>Have no motivation to do any of these things

Help
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so how does the amazon promo work

I bought purse owner 5 but I'm not sure how to get the item codes
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>>375880647
I actually enjoyed 1.23s combat more than ARRs
Honestly I wonder what ARR would be like had they kept it similar to 1.23 instead of going for the complete overhaul
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>>375884620
t enjoy wiping to easy shit
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>>375884852
You should've received an email titled "Benefit Confirmation for your order..." from Amazon. It contains both your codes and a link to FFXIV redeem site.
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>>375884852

you get the codes via email within 48 hours
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>>375884903
All it needed was graphics, UI and network updates.

I'm finishing leveling the ARR beast tribes and god it's depressing to walk into the enemy stronghold and have them literally ignore you
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>>375878174
>whip class
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>>375885093
yea nah it needed a lot of fucking work

https://youtu.be/unpWwn00mJs?t=76
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>>375884620
I work full time 2nd shift I don't have the time or the inclination to go full autist and try to join a static and try to mesh with normies. I'm stuck playing with these brainlets if I want to play at all so yeah, I care.
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>>375883164
>join some factory FC during launch
>few of us group up and form our own FC
>golden era.jpg
>after time people lose interest, FC leader quits due to baby, numbers dwindle
>me and a few OG's all thats left
>rebuild
>going well
>new faggot (literally) gets a power trip
>gets butthurt because I told him his idea wasnt good
>lifelong vendetta against me begins
>he steals half the FC (people who never talk yet complain about being left out)
>numbers dwindle again
>new FC made by faggot realises their mistake, make faggot step down as lead
>by this point original FC is long gone
>I get invited to Faggot FC
>I join
>the exact second Faggot logs on and sees my name he quits
>deletes his character
>vanishes from eorzea completely

>MFW all this drama stemmed from literally nothing

I didnt even do anything to deserve such hate from him, dude just had an ego (actually ditched an irl friend over this shit)
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>>375885093
I actually liked how 1.0 handled that, sorta
>trying to navigate the maze that was the black shroud
>end up lost
>turn a corner to eat a scorpion tail for 7000~ damage
At the very least, monsters in the field shouldn't be complete pushovers who run away if you leave their circle
Silent Oils and Prism Powders when?

>>375885372
It's funny how terrible 1.0's combat is to watch, but then actually playing it is a different story; especially for boss fights
I like to think of XI being the same way
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>>375885372

Jesus christ that is awful
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come play on cactuar with me :3
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>>375885872
>It's funny how terrible 1.0's combat is to watch, but then actually playing it is a different story; especially for boss fights
B-but the combat can't be good if you're not spamming your hotbar every possible moment of the fight!!
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>>375885961
>muh precious FFXI combat
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>>375882803
Maybe it's a regional thing. I've been playing games with Aussies and SEA trash for many years, but for the most part people are adults. Many have actual jobs.
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>>375885372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO5A0QNiuJs

>not linking the extreme version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxMf21O1WFQ

I can do that too to make ARR look bad.
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>>375885961
Your favorite combat is outdated and wouldnt be taken well with modern players

Move on
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>>375886195
Modern players having ADHD doesn't mean the combat isn't good.
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>>375886195
>Your favorite combat is outdated
He says while playing a combat system from 2004.
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So what do you guys like about XIV and what keeps you playing?
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>>375885386
>I don't have the time or the inclination to go full autist and try to join a static and try to mesh with normies.
This right here. Static groups seem to be filled with 90% cancer for some reason. Meet maybe one cool guy out of every 20.
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>>375886359
its newer than 2002
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>>375885798
>tfw there's always that one fag in your fc will selectively hate you for some convenient reasons.
why is this a thing in every mmorpg.
My last "good" fc shattered because leader went autismo after she found out her bf divorced her. She took the entire fc saving and kicked everyone out.
FC members later began to shows their true color too. One idiot got engaged with a cat fag and rage quit the fc because he found out the cat fag was a guy all a long. Another member wanted to "temporarily" join the neighbor fc, casting suspicion of a traitor then fc went to war with the neighbor fc for some reason. One guy started to talk about his tragic real life and fc from that point turned into a pandora box.
I tried my best fix things up, but fuck it all now.
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>>375886435
for me I really enjoy the lore, it seems much more coherent than say WoW or even SWtoR.
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>>375886491
he got some mad power trip because i had him recruit people on reddit (I didnt, and still dont know how that site works) and decided that he was a full officer of the guild. He didnt like it when i reminded him that no, he wasnt.
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>>375878203
Just ask me.

I know everything.
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>>375886647
Try to shitpost in the right thread.
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>>375886839
Why doesn't Monk have more utility?
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>>375886876
>Shitpost
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>>375886839
What are kuribus? The "lightsent" version of succubi?
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>>375886839
What does Khloe smell like and what are her favorite to wear panties?
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>>375887028
There is no "lightsent". Kuribus are advanced Amdapori golems.
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>>375887028
Construct made by the Amdapor magi to fight in their magic wars.

>>375886940
Please look forward to 4.0, dumb foreigner.
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>>375887028
Kuribus? That Elezen you turn into during PotD? I thought it was just an angelic deity referred to throughout the Black Shroud.
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>>375883594
ZR is on Ultros and is one of the designated /vg/ guilds.
Last I checked it's relatively free of typical /vg/ cancer, since all of the ERPers want to be on Balmung anyway.
Of course, if you find "chan culture" annoying it's likely just as bad.
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>>375887263
Seraphim and Kuribu are both angelic beings from Amdapori mythology, and they modeled the Kuribu golems after them. There are apparently no angel equivalents in modern Eorzea, judging by the description of the Seraph Cane.
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>>375886839

How do I make friends? I am tired of being alone in this game.
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>>375887349
>ZR is on Ultros and is one of the designated /vg/ guilds.
They're a /v/ guild.

Mentioning Ultros on /vg/ threads is just about the only way to get those shitters to stop posting naked catboy ERP for one second so that they can all collectively REEEE at you and tell you to go to Gilgamesh or Balmung instead because they have "great communities"
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>>375887473
Avoid /v/ guilds, join a reddit guild.

Honestly reddit people are much friendlier
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>>375887349
They're relatively small, then. You don't see them around as often as the likes of Terra.

Also, two years on Ultros and I never saw any ERPing or similar faggotry, even while hanging almost exclusively on Ul'dah to level GSM and MIN. It's a good server.
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>>375887349
ZR is not /vg/, it just happen to be on the pastebin for people looking for a 4chan fc.
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>>375886491
>One idiot got engaged with a cat fag and rage quit the fc because he found out the cat fag was a guy all a long
every fucking time
I can't help but laugh at this kind of shit, I still remember some dramas from Ragnarok Online
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>>375887473
Party Finder, nigga. My closest friends in this game are the guys who got assraped by T9 with me back in the day.

Nothing brings you closer together than coordinating 5 insta-kill mechanics at once with a bunch of people over a shitty early release Discord.
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>failed the promotion qualifier twice

Well this is incredibly soul-crushing.
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>>375872779
What's so bad about Balmung?
Not b8ing
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>>375887656
Worse of all, he spent his money on a fucking white chocobo with the cat fag, and the cat fag got away with it all.
I fucking can't believe he was actually shocked when I told you to be careful before the marriage.
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>>375887553
>join a reddit guild.
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>>375887819
There's a note in the promotions section of the item's page if it qualifies.
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>>375887860
it's the rp server
in a game where 80% of the active playerbase plays sexy catgirls
do the math
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>>375887860
Role playing, specially ERP. It's the unofficial NA server if you're into that. If you're not, it's a massively overpopulated server (it had thousands-long queues in HW's launch) filled with people saying cringy shit and unironically pretending they're having sex in the game.
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>>375887553
What's the difference?

>>375887819
>fail plat qualifier three times
>figure I'm shit but might as well keep queueing to get a top 100 spot for rewards
>ace diamond qualifier

qualifiers might as well be a dice toss to see if you get a bad grouping this match, since rating doesn't matter unless you lose so much you don't qualify anymore.
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>>375888005
Thx for the heads up
A reward for your alls future protection
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>>375883628
Keep it that way anon I imagine the only good static is a static with good friends. You're right too there almost always is something off, but it's just like maybe they are a little awkward, but it's never that they always have a spring loose or just wanna ERP with you which usually means a spring loose.
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>>375886089
I had a similar experience with a guild in Wakfu's first F2P server (SEA region, before it went to shit and died). I was expecting BRs and russians but most players are actually married couples or at least had jobs.

>>375887860
It's the RP server, Erotic variant included.
To be honest, I never gave it a fair chance, because it is almost impossible to create a character in Balmung since it is one of the most popular servers in the game. People usually say that the ERP cancer is "contained" in Ul'dah's adventure guild (and FCs idling around it).
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How do we fix expert roulette and """"""""""dungeons"""""""""" in general? Why don't they make MSQ duties cooperative missions with various objectives instead?
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>>375888085
I'll keep at it since my silver and gold qualifiers were pretty smooth, but damn if it isn't frustrating to lose game 5 to a janky as hell Sudden Death.
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>>375888085
>What's the difference?
surprisingly reddit people are less likely to be meme spouting faggots
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>>375888894
>Why don't they make MSQ duties cooperative missions with various objectives instead?
Shitters would complain about being forced to party in an MMO.
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tfw leveling DRK to 60 and only at 45

leveling all the classes to 60 is a slog
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>>375888894
Why try to improve a system that is generating profit as is? Devs would rather work in Mogstation emotes. Or ideally not work at all.
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>>375887885
It is always like this, they never listen to anyone but the virtual bitch of his dreams.
I find amazing how people still fall for this silly trap. At least ERPfags are aware of their partners' actual gender (most of the time, I guess).
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>>375889018

Still working more than WoW devs are.
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>>375888978
>Shitters would complain about being forced to party in an MMO.
>theres allready story required dungeons
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I hate this inflated economy and the gil sellers that are to thank for that. Everything is over 50k and the costs accumulate way too fast for my poor ass to keep up.
I thought I'd have enough money for Stormblood but somehow I've managed to burn 8 million gil in two weeks buying literally nothing of value.
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>>375887349
Please do not associate my FC with /vg/, that board is not nice.
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>>375889102
You seriously overestimate the mental ability of FFXIV's players. They do already complain about forced story dungeons.
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>>375889075
>mfw Blizz had the perfect opportunity to truly revive WoW and fucked it up with RNG bullshit
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>>375888476
>People usually say that the ERP cancer is "contained" in Ul'dah's adventure guild

I play on Balmung and that's pretty much the case.

A lot of RP is actually really good. I'm in an RP FC that does weekly events like narrating adventures D&D style.
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>>375888894
Your fagtation marks suggest you want dungeons to work in a way that would guarantee nobody would play them. Go ahead and tell us your ideas so we can get to the part where we laugh at you.
>>375889135
Don't play on Balmung then.
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>>375889252
They should be fun to run through
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>>375889156
Who's this character?
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Not american, where can I buy an amazon XIV promotional code?
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Malboro
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>>375889517
Most things in games should be fun, but that's a very nebulous concept.
Personally I'd prefer if they spent more resources increasing the number or adding an extra difficulty setting at the expense of other content such as PvP that nobody plays anyway, but I'm sure others with terrible taste disagree.
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>>375890068
>they like different things than me so they have terrible taste
Thank god you're not directing this game.
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>>375889236
>A lot of RP is actually really good.
No, it really isn't---

>I'm in an RP FC
Well, of course you'd fucking say that then.
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>>375890476
>plays a RPG
>hates RP
kys
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>>375889761
Why, that's bury pink gril from the best board esfores
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>>375874987
Shit man, congrats.
I'm at 2001/5000 personally ;_;
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>>375890068
I'm sure we will get three high level dungeons this time around for SB again.
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>>375889236
>wide-eyed generic kawaii uguu cat
XIV cats were a mistake
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>>375890537
I RP in this game and I can confirm that the vast majority of RP in FFXIV is fucking trash. It's full of donut steels and blatant disregard for the lore. There are more fucking Miqo'te Dragoons than any other race, and not a single fucking one even bothers to follow the naming conventions.
>oh i was raised by hyurs and that's why i have a shitty deviantart name teehee :3
>hello everyone, i am a white mage and a black mage please don't tell anyone
>heh... don't you know im the greatest and most popular assassin in all of eorzea? don't tell anyone though
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>>375874987
Was it worth the weight?
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>>375874987
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>>375890689
>generic
>not sickly pale skin
Pick one.
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>>375889236

I've only seen it done tolerably in-person once. The players doing it were keeping to themselves in a corner of Limsa. Seems like they were sharing their character's backstories or something similar. I just happened to be passing by as they were conversing in /say. Not my thing but it wasn't in duty so whatever. We didn't bother each other.

Everything else I've seen has been sluts, ERP demonstrations out in the middle of Mor Dhona/Idyllshire, and half-assed attempts at making characters sound "tough" or sarcastic. Macros for actions in DF, emotes accompanying unsolicited IC text in chat, and bio descriptions that sound like they copied and pasted from a beginner's guide to common shitty D&D character archetypes.

RP needs to be quarantined so as to make genocide of their kind easy and permanent. Death to RPers.
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>>375890465
Same goes to you, you fucking faggot. Kill yourself.
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>>375890896
Don't have to. Regardless of skin color, most XIV cats are Full nyaa :3 senpaiiii meow Retards
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Kinda really want to transition to a controller since I don't own a mememouse and my old fingers are getting too stiff for the modifiers.

Gimme some tips.
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>>375891065

how would you make a cat using the in-game character creator that isn't a nyaa :3 senpaiiii meow retard?
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>>375891102
Connect your controller to your computer
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>>375891065
XI cats were even more full nyaa :3 senpaiii meow retards.
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>>375891102
Have you considered shift/alt + letters?
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>>375891102
Switch to the fucking controller. XIV's got probably the best controller support of all MMOs I've played.

Which isn't saying much, I guess, but it only becomes a bother if you play SMN or SCH, because of pet toolbar and awful skill bloat.
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>>375891102
Black mage is comfy to play on a controller
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>>375891263
>because of pet toolbar
Turn it off, bind things like Obey, Contagion and Place somewhere else
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>>375891241
Mithra were tribal and more feline. They just rolled their R's. Miqo'te are anime girls with cat ears.
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>>375891160

1) Make something you find attractive
2) Don't offer or solicit (E)RP services
3) Don't be a nyaa :3 senpaiii meow retard

There are cat players out there that just wanted to play as a cute catboy/girl, but they're only about 1% of the population that play as Miq'ote. Be the 1% Anon.
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>there are people still parsing alexander right now
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>>375890837
Ah, that brings back memories. I fished up 8,000 of those bastards and bought the last 2k.
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>>375891349
>XIV does not have autistic furries but cute cat girls
What's the problem?
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>>375891160
Make them look vaguely strong. Which is apparently impossible.

And no, autist reading this going "Well MY cat OC is strong, unlike the others. Heh..." They're really fucking not.

>>375891241
>I think one game did it worse so that makes it okay in this one!!!
You're an idiot, and your bait is weak.
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>>375891252
How in the world are you people using alt as a modifier? It's the most uncomfortable key to combine with others that I can think of. Control and shift all the way.
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>>375891473
>cute cat girls
>miqote
Pick one
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>>375891382
>1) Make something you find attractive

kinda hard since none of the races in these games have asses. I was going to make a female Roe but they have tiny hips too so I went with Highlander

>2) Don't offer or solicit (E)RP services
>3) Don't be a nyaa :3 senpaiii meow retard

How can you tell if the cat pic posted earlier does either of these things?
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>>375891421
Why is it the Warrior that's always depicted as assholes in these comics

I'm usually nice...
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>>375891473
Even roes are cuter than miqote
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>>375891473
>XI Mithra
>Furries
Pick one.

>but cute cat girls
You're everything wrong with Miqo'te, and Japanese gaming in general.
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>>375891421
>farm 10s
>only one doing over 2k
>keep wiping to absolutely nothing
Damn right I parse
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>>375883034
I've given in. I'm buying the air bender dance because I really, really want it and unlike Eastern Greeting it's more than a single movement and also unlike play dead there's nothing like it in game.

I really don't want to support mog station vanity items but at the same time, I really want that dance.
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>>375890736
> i am a white mage and a black mage please don't tell anyone


Isn't this....I thought the entire point of the class system in this game was that you can be both
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>>375891610

He asked how to not be a shitty stereotype playing as a cat. That's how you do it. Just don't be the stereotype.
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>>375891610
>How can you tell if the cat pic posted earlier does either of these things?

>Wide-eyed
>slut gear
>Original Character written up top
>Artwork commission
There's a 99% chance they're an ERP-fag.
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>>375891723
I'm talking about roleplay. Within the lore, both are lost arts and considered heretical because they use the Lifestream as fuel and their misuse caused the Sixth Umbral Calamity. Being a black mage is straight up illegal and will have you imprisoned/executed, and only Padjal are allowed to be trained in white magic.
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>>375891885

What the fuck? Why can the player be both of them with no problem then?
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>>375891160
Simple. Pick the dreads hairstyle, make your tattoo tribal or the non-model beauty related ones, and set chest to smallest and height to tallest. Also pick the shortest, skinniest tail.

Done.
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>>375891942
Because the Warrior of Light is a special snowflake that gets to break rules. An old white mage master comes back from the fucking dead to force the other Padjal to train you in it. And the black mage master breaks himself out of prison specifically to teach you because he sensed your power.
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>>375891723
It's hard to believably RP in this game when everyone is a skyrim tier master of everything if they work towards it. Not to mention the wee avoid aspect of the game attracting gaia online vermin.
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>>375892032

sounds like the devs are just retards that couldn't even make the lore match up with the gameplay for RP.

>one of the game's main classes is illegal in the lore

fucking really?
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>>375892117
Weeaboo*
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>>375892174
It's easy enough to just roleplay as a Thaumaturge, Conjurer, or Arcanist if you want to be a mage. They're all perfectly legal and are offshoots of the heretical magics that don't kill the planet. The only real difference between Thaumaturgy and Black Magic is that Thaumaturgy uses someone's internal aether as fuel, while Black Mages channel shitloads of the planet's energy through themselves as an infinite power source and will literally burn themselves from the inside out if they don't have the proper catalyst.
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>>375892174
It's for gameplay reasons. One of the best things in XIV is the armory system allowing you to play all the jobs. Obviously this would create contradictions.
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>>375891615
because it's always WARs crying about getting high dps parses.
>Have a war in my static that spams butcher's block all the time because it's the highest potency combo after using maim
>hes always on the verge of stealing threat from the MT forcing him to use powerslash
>WAR for static can't make it for one night
>I fill in his spot as WAR and upkeep path and eye since I'm not a WARbab crying muhdps
>do more damage than him on my one run that i never did on WAR before
>MT gets to do more dps too since they don't have to powerslash and can keep doing delirium and DA SE more often
>healers get to dps more since less dps going out
???
Fucking war fags.
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>play MNK
>common job
>literally disciples of another school right there
Can never go wrong with punching things.

I feel like Paladin should be the canon/story tank class. I mean, I get it- WAR of Light. And the general look is awesome. But sword+shield is just fantasy 101 and one of the easiest to deviate from.
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>>375891541
Alt+letters, particularly things like dfert, is a much smaller hand motion than ctrl anything, particularly since you can hit alt with your thumb. Even numbers are easier once you get used to the thumb position.
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>>375892983
>smaller hand motion
My hands aren't that small. That'd give me arthritis.
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>>375893024
Anon, control doesn't magically become closer because you have big hands. It's the most distant key on the main body of the left side of the keyboard and almost always requires a strike from your least flexible finger, naturally resting several keys away, versus a strike from your most flexible finger, naturally resting on the adjacent key. Stop being dumb.
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>>375889236

I like when I pass by people doing mundane, harmless rp stuff in taverns or at landmarks. Especially when they dress the part and aren't in full raid gear.

I'm on balmung and really haven't seen much weird shit outside of uldah. It's only there if you go looking for it:
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>>375891421

Reminds me of a guy on my server who was part of a group that got server-first A12S. Within a few weeks of clearing he ended up transferring to Gilgamesh, claiming that his old group was "holding him back."

Apparently someone from a renowned raiding guild on Gilgamesh transferred over to my server just to feed the guy's ego and poach him.

Outside of a few cocksuckers who worship this person, everyone else pretty much scorns the guy for ditching his static before they could finish farming A12S. As far as I know, he spends all day posting and talking about parses in Discord.

I'll never understand the "speedrun" mentality.
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>>375893563
Honestly this shit just kills raiding for me
Nobody wants to do mechanics anymore, nobody wants to play it safe and clear, everybody just wants to get their 99s

I went to WoW for awhile and on one boss there's a mechanic where you have to eat cake placed around the room
As a Death Knight with no mobility I kept having to run across the room to eat cake right fucking next to Hunters or Mages who refused to move because MUH PARSE

I think I'm just done MMOs
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>>375893563

Their lives aren't fulfilling outside of having the best parses in FF XIV. They have nothing to live for outside of big deeps and fast clears.

Not saying that clearing shit quickly and with skill is bad. Just that when it's the only thing you care about and the only thing that validates your existence, you need to get a fucking life. FFLogs and Discord adherents are pathetic people.
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>>375893563
>I'll never understand the "speedrun" mentality.
Let's assume you aren't overweight, unattractive, and/or unsuccessful at everything in life except XIV. Put yourself in the shoes of that person who embodies all 3 and how they may feel knowing people out there will stroke their e-peen if they were first for a clear.
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>>375887924
>>375888005
>>375888476
What is so wrong about ERP?
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>>375893960
The same thing that's wrong with furries and homestucks. The community.
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>>375893834
Remember: every speedrun is just a healer carrying people.
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>>375894098
but some lewdsters can be okay and still ERP yes?
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>>375893960
It's grown men acting out their degenerate futa/piss/etc fetishes
I ERPed a little in XI, but it was with a cute weeb girl I had planned to meet talking about super vanilla shit when I was a kid, I don't think anything was wrong with that

It just depends on context
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>>375894294
No.
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>>375891421
>my GF drew naruto and broke up with me
This is literally r/ffxiv at its finest autism.
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>>375893960
a large amount of the people who do it make it the only part of their personality like that one gay person who can only ever talk about how gay they are, the other few are way too fucking clingy or they have severe mental problems, no normal person wants to hang around these people

and honestly it's fucking rampant in this game
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>>375891421
who drew this? are there more?
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>>375878172
Just moved here this week. Compared to where I came from, there's next to no lizards
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>>375894672
>like that one gay person who can only ever talk about how gay they are
You talkin' about that pink haired, yaoi obsessed cancer that was so bad they got banned from the forums?
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>>375893960
>two adult, probably unattractive and overweight men acting like they're both pretty catgirls (or futas, whatever) and writing awkward porn dialogue to each other over the chat log of a fucking video game

You tell me.
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>1-30 ROG
Pretty fucking awesome
>30-50 NIN
Pretty cool but the final battle was fucking awesome
>50-60 NIN
What the fuck were they thinking?
And that final boss? Why the fuck some shitty NIN wanabee is able to make Raitons rain like nothing?

God damn, I hope the 60-70 one of SB will be better.
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>>375894764
if this is someone from the OF i wouldn't know as i hardly ever look at that shit heap but tell me more im interested
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>>375894752
only other one so far
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>>375894926
those are super mario ghost
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>>375894926
Is diadem dead again?
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>>375894926
Fucking Diadem
They took something that could potentially be so good and made it as bad as they possibly could

>>375895113
yes
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>>375895113
Diadem was a mistake. Followed by a bigger mistake.
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>>375894906
>tfw you notice that Karasu is still alive in the 50-60 questline
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>>375894919
Alright, so there's an EB thread. This guy posted just about every. single. day. Obsessively. Gets called out on it, then snaps out by making his own wank thread. Gets called out again and passive aggressively snarks at every post that wasn't sucking his dick. So, he snaps at the entire thread. He was a lolcow for a short while because his thread was on the New Posts because he'd bump it constantly with replies. Mod closed it, but here. Have a laugh.

Or a cringe.

The thread's original OP is gone because he changed it when posts targeted his EB posting.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/315134-%5Co%5C-Finding-your-Sweet-Lover-%28Or-Nightmare%29-o
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>>375895327
He did mention him but I'm pretty sure he used a past tense?
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>>375893959
But I'm all of those things and I don't act that way. "Pro raiders" are just cunts. Nothing more to it than that.
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>>375895327
Karasu was shown alive even in last NIN arr job quest. What's so surprising?
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>>375895446
he's the new information dealer
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>>375895446
When you go visit the black marketeer, he's wearing a hood to hide his identity, but he calls you 'little bird'.
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>Trying to craft a full set of Ironwork gear

Haha, this sucks man
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>>375895510
>>375895515
Aw shit nigga
Now I'm REALLY excited for 60-70!
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>>375895113
Fury died faster than a STR accessory-wearing WAR once people realized they were just AFKing for a 0.001% chance at their 280 weapon, Matron still has people queueing.
>>
Does anyone actually like XIV enough to consider it one of their favorite games? Or did you put so much time into it you see too much bad in it.
>>
How do I have fun in this game? My mains are PLD/MNK/WHM. I used to be a BLM but enochain was no fun.
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>>375895695
I like exploration, interesting NPC dialog, and Barbie dress up.

XIV has all of those.
>>
Balmung is fun as fuck if you don't care about ERP. The drama will keep you entertained for years.
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>>375895716

The classes you main are pretty brain dead piss easy. Try classes that have more complex rotations and openers like MCH, DRG, or NIN
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>>375895716
>My mains are PLD/MNK/WHM
PERFECT
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>>375895695
>Does anyone actually like XIV enough to consider it one of their favorite games?
I consider it one of my current favourite games.

Game has its fair share of problems (as all games, and especially all Final Fantasy games do), but it has some very good qualities too, and I continue to have a lot of fun playing it.
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>>375895695
Nope, I actually despise it compared to FFXI back in the day
I just play it because it's the least worst MMO you can play now
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>>375896087
>I just play it because it's the least worst MMO you can play now
But why do you need to play an mmo so bad?
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>>375895695
It's my favorite game for 3 months once every year after everything's off lockout and I can farm gear 10 times as fast as when it's released. Could be weekly lockout cuck for so long (3 months total out of my maybe 2 years subscribed).
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Just bought something off amazon couple of days ago, got an email /w this shit.. Who wants?
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>>375891704
>Trying to get at least a 10S clear today
>Parties keep failing miserably
>One was barely clearing the roller
>Earlier party was running a parse
>Apparently everyone except the Healers and PLD was doing around ~1650
Given the last time I got parsed I was only doing like, ~900, I felt rather good about myself.
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>>375896087
>I actually despise it compared to FFXI
Ah, the return of the XI-fag.

You do realize XI is still going, and even its current watered down version has about as much group content as XIV anyway?
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>>375895695
If I didn't I wouldn't be playing it every goddamn day.
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>>375896172
I love the genre
I love class based grouping, cooperative progression, etc - things you can only find in an MMO
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>>375896275
>You do realize XI is still going
You do realize you're actually a fucking retard?
XI is a very, very different game now, and to reflect that the community is very different too
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>>375895695
I think the combat is fun, the art style is good, the armors and characters look great, good music and i enjoy myself playing the game. Yes, easily one of my favorite games of all time. Im not delusional to not admit it has problems but it doesnt stop me from liking the game
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>>375896275
Sure, if you want to play 18man groups consisting of two tanks PLD&RUN and 16 BLU&SCH, sitting around to cast a few spells, all only in the latest expansion area, whereas the rest of the game (90%) is just a BoTW-tier expanse. The game is dead.
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>>375895695
I'd probably consider XI one of my favorite games, but XIV is just Wasted Potential: The Game.

I mean, I like playing XIV, but it's only just good enough, and then most of that is because there are no other options for MMOs anymore. If DQX or something got localized I would drop this pile right away and never look back, but that's exactly why it will never be localized.
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>>375896497
>be a DRK
>groups shouting for only BLUs for DD
>you don't actually need more than one BLU for mighty guard, two at most for 100% mighty guard uptime
>I literally shit on BLUs damage with a Ragnarok
>but nobody will take me in favor of a BLU
Communities fucked dude
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>>375886491
I've had similar shit happen. I've vowed to never join a static with a couple again.

Only one I ever liked ended up disbanding because of the couple breaking up. The chick later revealed herself to be a complete psycho who caused all her own problems.
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>>375886491
Reminds me of a story that a friend of mine was telling the other day. The worst mis-tell they'd ever seen.

Raid Static leader was talking about thinking about divorcing his wife... mis-told it in a channel she was active in. Raid group disbanded shortly there-after.
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>>375896830
>mis-told it in a channel she was active in
holy fuck.
I can't imagine the dead silence after that one line.
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>>375896830
>The worst mis-tell they'd ever seen.
>chatting with friend
>suddenly highly detailed ERP
>mfw
Part of me wishes we were talking in /say for the fallout.
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Is it possible to find a fun static where there aren't any negative attitudes like raging or blaming? I just want to join a static where there are chill people that joke around and laugh at our own mistakes but slowly get better to where we eventually clear the content.
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>>375895349
thanks anon i need my nightly laugh
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>>375897919
Yes no maybe.
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>>375897919

the only time this happens is if you transfer a group of friends from some other game
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>>375897919
Look for a casual static

Midcore statics are a mix of what you're looking for + people who feel they're pro but are "taking it easy" but generally have negative attitudes.
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HOW TO FIX WHM?!

Making overcure proc management necessary would be an interesting spanner in the works. And with the class specific UI overhauls in 4.0 it might be actually possible to track the procs.
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>>375898327
Better MP management.

Make fights/mechanics where Cure3 shines.

Actually, just give them utility to buff other's dps because that's how you make anything useful in this game.

Name of the game is dps
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>>375898327
>Making overcure proc management necessary
Explain to a being of lower intelligence such as myself, please.
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>>375898327

I'm not sure what they could do to fix it as I am not a game designer. I just want to feel good about playing WHM again.
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>>375898509
from what I understood of his post.

an oGCD buff that when activated, you gain the effect of overcure (cure 2 cost no MP or cure 3 cost 1/2 MP)
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>>375897919
Sure, but then you're stuck barely making any progress week by week and entropy and frustration will have set in. Maybe nobody will say so, but its always true.

Source: I used to be in one of those "Just for fun" Statics. Left after they couldn't clear A10S after 5 weeks holy shit. It was the WHM holding us back too, but nobody wanted to hear it.
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>>375898764
Some people are fine with it. Not everyone is.

Its assumed that the poster is fine with that because what you said is obvious.
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>>375898764
This
>chill, for "fun"
>actually progressing

Unless you lucked out with 7 competent right at the start, and that shit is harder than getting 5 non ST2 hasty touch in a row.
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>>375872335
Avoid Aether.
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>>375898985
Ex Primalfag here, Primal is worse.

https://pastebin.com/mRDHdsMj
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>>375872335
Jenova
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>>375895695
XIV is my second favorite game in the series.
I'm glad I play in moonrunes, Koji's translations would have put it in the least favorite batch with games like DoC.
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>>375899128
Weak falseflag aethershitter.
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>>375898327
I feel like they need to redesign Cure III.

I don't main WHM but it always felt like an extremely situational spell. Maybe make it so that it's a Medica that's slightly more powerful than Medica, but centered on a selected ally target. It'd probably compete with Assize though so I don't know.
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>>375899294
Exodus is a shithole. Esspecially if that faglord Alcaeus is still ban evading and playing on that server.

t. Aurion Pax
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>>375898985
>primalfags pretending they're somehow magically better than aether by the virtue of being less populated

Why haven't you retards transferred to tonberry yet? Even as the JP server with the lowest clear rates, it's still so much higher than anything NA or >EU has.
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Someone teach me how to play DRK. There are too many buttons.
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>>375899391
wow 2 bad people on an entire data center
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>>375895695
I have nearly a thousand hours, about half of which were gotten in the last three months.

You don't play a game like that if you think it's just meh.
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>>375899418
>implying I'm a primal fag
I'm on Aegis, faggot and Tonberry is just as much as a memeserver as any of the big three on Aether

Kill yourself.
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>>375895695
2k hours in so far and I'm still enjoying it more than some of the people who are around my playtime. I take frequent breaks though.

I just really like the cosiness, the relatively low key setting, the more slowly paced and as such relaxing combat. It just feels like home.

I see the negatives but no home is perfect.
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>>375897919
No because one shitter is going to halt any progress so you have to be full tryhard or fail.
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>>375899418
Because some people don't want to deal with horrible lag only for the actually good players to avoid them because they're from the shitty meme server that all the nips fucking hate thus being stuck with australian shitposters as their only company.
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>>375872335
You shouldn't. MMO'S are not worth the investment. When you burn out you're just gonna feel that much worse for all the time you could've spent playing a good single player game.
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>>375899528
Oh theres more but those are the two I recall most, I'm not about to go through my 200 player blacklist and list them off to you.

There would be more if the limit wasn't 200

t. Primal shitter
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>>375899524
>Pop Salted Earth
>Pull w/Unmend
>Plunge onto Target
>Unleash if multiple enemies (Or it just proc'd from Unmend)
>Aggro Combo
>Dark Arts + Carve and Split when up
>Use Blood Price when it's up
>Use Dark Arts + Souleater Combo for DPS
>Use Delirium Combo when low on MP
>Keep Scourge up at all times
>Reuse Salted Earth when available
Easy peasy.
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>>375872335
i will never not get tired of his artstyle. 10/10 and i dont even care about final fantasy
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>>375879510
>>375880168
>too lazy to draw big
>made eyes bigger
>can't fix it anymore
Sigh I have never draw before but here's a bad attempt.
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>>375899835
What cd's do you pop? Shadowskin when plunging in and then see how its going from there?
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>>375900020
>Japan gets Amano's artwork as the cover for every edition of Stormblood
>NA and EU only gets it as the box art for the Collector's Edition
>Normal copies just have a generic picture of Zenos instead
Such disappoint I feel.
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>>375900081
*draw her before*
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>>375900140
I fucking hate this retarded gaylearn art covers. Stupid CoD kiddies making the marketing team make this decision FUCK
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>>375900107
Dark Dance should be up nearly all the time.

Cooldowns when necessary, so during moments of spike damage/tankbusters, lighter cooldowns for general mitagation to keep the healers job easier.

Awareness is good especially after a TB if you don't have much else, since crits fucking hurt.
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>>375900235

WESTERN MEN STRONK! Only pansies and women like beautiful art with vivid colours in their cover art.
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Fucking hell only 5 more singing clusters. I'm so sick of dps shitters in Gubal library making runs last almost as long as AF. Cleared Sophia ex 2 times when I was lucky enough to get a group of non retarded dps.
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>>375900107
Shadowskin is on a fairly short 90s cd, so it can be up every other pull if your dps are decent. As you play more as a tank you'll get better at estimating how much damage shit will do and if you need CDs. Tanking dungeons isn't exactly demanding, but it helps if you know how pulls are done and can plan around usage of CDs and their timers.
In general:
>one pull, can be fine with 0 CDs
>two pulls, can be fine with 0 CDs if you outgear, otherwise better pop those CDs
>three +, better use your shit

DRK also gets some very good health regen on it's own with Dark Arts + Abyssal Drain spam while blood price is active on a large mob.
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>>375889198
>letting the diablo 3 devs work on wow

Seriously I'm tired of all this RNG crap all over the place. Remove it. Give me realistic grinding goals and I'll do them. AP is too fuckign much, the relic weapon in XIV is ridiclious even after some of the nerfs.

Make me want to play the game and have fun, not turn it intoa job so you can bleed subs.
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>>375887902
Mad Ultrosfag.
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>>375895695
Favorites of all time? No. I'd probably consider it among my favorite FF games though.
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>>375887553
>>>/reddit/
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>>375900498
>>375900395
Thx guys, much appreciated.
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>>375896204
I'll take it.
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/PangTong/
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>>375900774
>fake board redirection meme
It's time to go
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>>375900661
Need to keep people playing month-to-month somehow.

If you think of a way to make PVE-based content last months without grinding or time gating, write it down because you'll be a fucking millionaire.
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>>375900964
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Is dungeon from 51-60 still better than Palace of the Dead even when you don't have rested exp (but I do have armor bonus +50%)?
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>>375901016
Yes because rested XP isn't used for PoTD, it's like the rewarded XP from leveling roulette, a straight set amount.
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Currently leveling PLD right now. At 36.
Should I be spamming the highest available dungeon? Or doing PoTD?
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>>375896087
No wonder so many people here do nothing but bitch about the game. You have to be legitimately brain damaged to keep playing a game you hate.
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>>375901121

Dungeon - tanks can live in DF all the way up to 60. PotD is only really worth it if you don't want to wait in DPS queues or if you want to relax and not put a lot of effort in.

You'll also actually learn how to play your fucking job if you run dungeons, as opposed to whacking shit a few times before it dies in Palace.
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>>375901121
Dungeons are faster with rested exp but below 50 it's not worth it due to how often you have to replace gear.
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>>375901121
You're a tank so dungeon if you care about learning about tanking still dungeons are the best for healers and tanks due to short queue times.
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>>375901121
Dungeons if you wanna tank. PotD if you just want the job leveled and don't care about proper tanking.
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I want to have fun with this game, but I'm afraid I might be allergic to MMOs.

Is there a class or a way of progressing that's fun for normies? I just want to get through to see the story and the characters, since i'm a huge FF faggot.
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>>375901649
Monk maybe
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>>375900081
better attempt of another npc
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>>375901649
There's no normie class/job. There's just classes/jobs that you might find subjectively fun. Do you like melee shit? Ranged shit? Magic? Being beefy? Supporting?

For just beating shit up solo, pugilist (monk), lancer (dragoon), rogue (ninja), maybe even marauder (warrior), although that one is one of the slower things.
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>>375901649
>class that's fun for normies
What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>375901649

The story gives you a ton of EXP just for doing it, and there are lots of incidental ways to gain EXP like doing Hunting Logs, easy side-quests, and having a first-time bonus for any duty you sign up for. You can change classes at a certain point if you find that what you're playing doesn't suit you.

As for what's available at the start, all the classes are kind of slow and limited in the beginning. But some are slower than others. There's a minor role system overhaul coming for 4.0 that will change the order you learn some skills so keep that in mind too.
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I want to get my friend into this game. We all know that the early game is a drag but what class makes it less of a drag? I was thinking of recommending him Puglist, because a) combos early on and b) flanking mechanics early on to spice things up a bit
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>>375902134
Queue as a tank with him.
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>>375893834
>went to WoW for awhile and on one boss there's a mechanic where you have to eat cake placed around the room

I was a ret paladin for that fight on mythic. The asshole ranged barely went ofr the cakes, our healers did meaning less heals. And then the demon shitters fucking always took the close melee cakes instead of using their amazing mobility to get far ones and remain top dps.

Having parses to figure out problems and help people who are slacking is not a bad thing. Using parses to wave your e-peen cause hurr durr everyone let me cheap the fight for big numbers is retarted.
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>>375901649
>Is there a class or a way of progressing that's fun for normies?
What the fuck is this question? Talk properly faggot. Infact don't even bother picking it up the game needs less retards.
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>>375902134
can you even play this game in a party? ive only ever grped for dungeons, what happens with story missions and such, do they trigger when you both talk to the npc or is everyone seeing his/her own little story
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>>375902134
This >>375902190 and he should pick what he wants to play, from just seeing some videos of what they do.
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>running Vault for glamour shit
>first pull WAR loses hate on everything sitting in Deliverance
>gets knocked back into black holes twice on second boss
>never stuns a Dullahan AoE
>check him
>Alexandrian Axe
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>>375895113
For battle classes it's shit. For gathering it's amazing since unspoiled nodes pop every two game hours alternating between min/bot. Fishers can just go for it right away.
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>>375877289
when are you gonna be a lizard on a rock again
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>>375902385
i have an alex axe and i'm a trash warrior
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I quit the game just a week before when PotD was upped from 50 floors to however it's now. Is it still the GO TO spot to level your classes? It's 200 floors now I think, is it faster or slower compared to old 50 floor PotD?
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>>375902484
101-200 is bonus stuff
Only if you're a DPS yeah
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>>375902385
>clearing a12s
>requiring skill
pick one
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>>375902484
51-60 over and over is the fastest way to level anything before level 50

It starts you at level 60 but takes only slightly longer than 1-10 and it gives as much EXP as 40-50.
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>>375902538
I assumed he'd have a basic understanding of how to tank but I guess even that's too much
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>>375902385
i have a midan metal axe from when it was relevant and my warrior is only lvl 48
you can get weapons from raid that you dont raid on, you know
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>>375898446
And the bad WHM still wouldn't do it. Working on my relic I can't tell you the amount of healers during dungeons runs that sit there and never dps. Then still let people die cause they fall asleep healing.
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>>375900967
I already said, realistic grinding goals. It's understandable that they can't create content faster than players can consume it. But that's no excuse for horrible RNG and ridiclious grinds. Which is major reason wow and ffxiv bleed subs like no tomorrow.

And the reality is, they will NEVER be able to keep playing 100% of the time. Fact of life is players will get bored for any numbers of reasons. Best to make the game fun, enjoyable and not a job. That way when you release a new patch or big xpac you don't have half the player base lose interest cause massive grind.

No answer is perfect but with so much competition is gaming out there... I should enjoy my time playing and get decent progression. Else someone else gets my money.
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So is it safe to assume that everyone is at max level at this point? Thinking of playing scholar, looks cute from the videos I saw. I realize it's a healer so queue times wouldn't be as bad, but I've read something about a palace of the dead so I wonder if there's any "oldschool" people even doing all these mandatory story dungeons / eidolon fights
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>>375902385
He probably cleared it as an offtank so he probably doesn't know how to mt. WARs are dps, they're only nominal tanks.
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>>375903175
Probably less so during this lull before an expansion, sure, but Yoshi makes sure to shove older content down everyone's throat every opportunity he gets, whether it's through MSQ or the Relic grind.

You shouldn't have much trouble if any finding groups at peak hours as a healer.
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>>375903175
Dungeons are still frequently populated since there are once-a-day roulettes that give big bonuses. Anyone leveling any job is going to do their leveling roulette then POTD. You don't have to worry about queue times. Even as DPS the longest you'll wait for anything in a roulette (IE all the required story content) is 10 minutes.
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>>375903175
There's always people doing older fights because the duty finder has a roulette system that gives token currency rewards. You might have to wait a while for some stuff but you'll blast right through it since everyone will be synced to max gear level for that dungeon/trial.

Palace of the dead is just a rouge-lite type mini-dungeon crawler. It's nice to level up 1-50 on other combat classes or just for casual something to do.
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>running another Vault
>watching a sprout WHM out DPS a mentor BLM
I love this so much
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>>375902330
The MSQ is basically a purely solo experience that focuses on your character. You're only forced to group up for dungeons and trials. There are even quest battles which can only be done solo.
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Should I bother doing anima weapon or is it too late
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>>375903423
If you're starting now it might be late.
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>>375903423
It's easy as piss now. If you're near the cap for every type of tome then you're halfway done with everything except the light step.
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>>375903423
Might be useful in 4.0 like ZW was in 3.0. But there are thousands of other stuff you can do that is more helpful and fun like leveling other jobs, chocobo racing, crafting, gathering.
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>>375903542
Crafting and gathering is useless. It's only worth it if you want money for glamour shit and housing.
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>>375903482
>easy as piss

It's always been easy. It's just tedious. Sand step is still by far the worst next to light. 70+ ARF, or more if you go library, runs for tomes of lore cause umbrite is only aviable from 1 source.
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Will Pentium 4560 cpu be good for this game?
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>>375903619
Gathering is amazing at the start of an xpac or major patch that has new materials. Crafters eat that shit up for tons of money.

After the craze dies down it's pointless though yes.
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What's the best way to get current top gear if you're not at max level? Currently level 37. So far I've been using the stuff from story missions and class quests. this will surely change as the thread is talking about tokens and stamps and shit, but I think this is all higher level stuff. What can I do right now in my level range?
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>>375903463
>>375903482
>>375903542
I'll just level my other classes till Stormblood then. Thanks
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>>375903802
Again, money is mostly useless. It's just a huge waste of time.
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>>375903619
But it's fun. And having crafters and gatheres are 60 helps a lot right now since when expansion hits you'll probably be busy with other stuff to worry about leveling them.
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>>375903998
Leveled goldsmithing, mining and armorcrafting to 40. Bored the living shit out of me. I did it because I thought crafted gear is more useful.
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Are the Spear and Arrow just about the same dps boost as Balance? Lv52 AST here in case it's boosted at 60 or something. The way I play I only ever add Balance to my Spread. Until I pull Balance I'm using the other cards as I see fit, though if I don't need MP/TP/mitigation, I'll just Royal Road those cards. But I don't Royal Road Arrow/Spear if I get them without having a Balance stored yet. Is this good use or is just going for Expanded Balance more worth it than using a non-expanded Arrow/Spear or even expanded Arrow/Spear if Balance isn't up? Any thoughts? Otherwise it feels like I'm drawing all day sometimes and never getting Balance, shitting on my damage buff output.
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>>375904058
I just level the crafting so I can repair my own gear. Reparing past 100% means I need to worry about it less frequently and it also means I can do it anywhere, any time.
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>>375890736
I'm retarded regarding Japanese names from that era but aside from that I just RP an alcoholic inn-keeper who hates pretty much everyone, but yet needs to force a smile on their face.
If you avoid the Quicksand, and actually spend time searching for actual good RPers you'll be happy with doing it. Though I mostly tend to just fuck around doing shit in POTD than RP.
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>>375904102
Just read the tooltips.
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I've been trying to farm 10S lately, but I keep winding up with shit parties. Even the party I finally got a clear on just now was shit.

>MT can't position for shit
>Keeps standing right on the ice dart button at-pull
>Insists on dragging the boss off into the middle of the stage during Prey
>DPS so shit that we're only at 35% by the time adds spawn
>Wipe anyway because OT and DPS get hit by chainsaws causing the LB to be too late
>2nd run DPS is better
>Finally get a clear before the 2nd Spintops
And hallelujah I got my NIN Gloves.
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>>375904102
>Spear
Hell no

>Arrow
It's good for classes that enjoy spellspeed, so just BLM and SMN. It's not the same as balance which is a straight damage buff. Balance is a free Raging Strikes.
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>>375903912
Check the vendors at each new zone, they usually sell normal gear at the zone's level.

If you have TONS of money you can go buy the HQ gear off the market board. It's generally not going to be worth it though since you'll level to 50 pretty quick.

MSQ post-50 will give you 110 gear and 90 accessories as well when you get to that point.
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>>375904102
Start using Royal Road on Spear
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>>375904193
It's so bad, I need like 13 more and no PF can clear it.
I wish I could be rude, tell those fucking idiots that don't know mechanics to fuck off of farms forever.
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>>375904231
Muh extended.
Fuck spear, they should remove it.
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>>375904347
What does it even do? Like, is it supposed to shorten CDs or something? Since I never notice any appreciable effect when I use it.
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>>375903319

I out-DPSed a BLM and a MNK in a Sloppy's Wall run once. As AST. With a Sophia weapon when they had full relic.

Some people are just shit at the game. You have to hope you don't run into them too often.
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>>375904392
Yes and it fails at the only thing I wish it would do, make draw recast faster.
It only reduce the cds of abilities used AFTER drawing it.
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>>375904392
Shortens oGCD cooldowns. It's %-based, so major CDs benefit from it the most, so something with a 120s cd becomes 100s if used while under the effect of Spear.
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>>375904392
It shortens cooldowns on oGCD abilities, but only ones you activate while the Spear buff is up. Does nothing to abilities already on cooldown.
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>tfw joined a new FC 2 weeks ago
>tfw having fun running dungeons, doing FC events and a couple of lower-tier raids
>tfw guild leader asks me to join their static because apparently I'm the best tank we have right now
>tfw get on voice chat to make things easier and find out that most people in the FC are women

What the fuck do I do? It's been 4 days, I've just acted like myself all the time and haven't gotten kicked yet or anything so I must be doing something right, I guess?
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MNK's ability names got fucked hard in localization.
Bootshine <- Consecutive Strike
Snap Punch <- Demolishing Fist
Second Wind <- Internal Alchemy
Haymaker <- Counter
Touch of Death <- Pressure Point Fist
Fists of Earth <- Diamond Posture
Fists of Wind <- Gale Posture
Fists of Fire <- Crimson Lotus Posture
Meditation <- Fighting Spirit (Chakra stacks are also called Fighting Spirit stacks)
Elixir Field <- Blue Energy Cannon
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>love sword and board
>everyone claims playing Paladin is like stubbing your toes, unsatisfying, painful and dumb as fuck
>but I just fucking love glowy shields

wat do? is PLD really that shitty to play?
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>>375904602
Before you blogpost some more, let me tell you this.

A) women are just as much a human bean as you are

B) they will not give you sex over the internet, so just refer to A) and play the game
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>>375904602
Congratulations, you have Ranked Up as a normie.

I highly suggest cutting off access to 4chan immediately to complete the transition and progress in life as an individual removed from such autism.
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>>375904637
It's pretty bad, but the expansions coming so it'll get buffed
It's probably doomed to forever be less interesting than DRK though
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>>375904219
>>375904231
>>375904507
>>375904479

Thanks that's good to know. Thought Spear decreased GCD like haste, not just oGCDs. Pretty niche.
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>>375904602
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING NORMALFAGSSSSS
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>>375904637

paladin is fine, not the most exciting thing ever but if you use your entire toolkit you're still better than 99% of warriors and dark knights anyways, plus you'll look the best
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>>375904602
See: >>375904691

Treat them like normal. Don't treat them like queens or godesses because that's the most beta cuck thing you can do. Trust me.

>WoW, back in the day when it was good and fun
>Girl joins guild
>Everyone suddenly becomes a fucking beta orbiter and treats them amazingly well
>Tell them to stop being such fucking faggots and just treat her normally
>Get kicked
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>>375899582
>2k hours
Post made me check my time.

>178 days
>do some math
>nearly 4300 hours

what am I doing with my life
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>>375904637
i play paladin because i love the archetype, did the same in XI too. it is pretty dull, to be quite honest, and it's niche thing (blocking, essentially) is underused and underwhelming.
but it does have it's quirks that let you maximize your potential and stand you apart from other paladins, they're pretty little things but actually shelltroning on tank busters, using cover and tempered will when applicable, knowing when to divine veil, little shit like that.
i find if I'm not trying to maximize my potential like that it is very boring, though.
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>>375904617
Bootshine and Snap Punch are fine, they're the most fitting boxing terms for a Pugilist in the localization. A snap punch genuinely hurts a lot, more than pushing punches.
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>>375904637
Paladin is just boring.

Basic combos, CDs are all straight forward use-'em-when-you've-got-'em, and there's just not that much to it involving thought or skill.

Though Heavensward did add a bit with the addition of both a dedicated DPS skill, and a DoT route for one of its combos. So hopefully Stormblood will also add more to make it fun to play.
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>>375904882
Most of the time the girls aren't doing it on purpose though.

It's the fucking beta cucks who think with their virgin dicks that make it that way.
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>>375904637
It's just generic and boring. You rotation is pretty much 1-2-3 forever and then use defensive CD. I'd love for pally sword and board dps but shield's have to be MUH TANK.

PLD gets the job done and does it well but there's no real style or interesting mechanics in doing it.
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>>375904719
>>375904763
>>375904903
>>375904957
Thanks for the input. It does sound rather rough for good ole paladins.. is there any hope left that some expansion or patch will change things up or is the status quo gonna be as good as it gonna get? What do you think? How could they be even improved?
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>>375904617
I prefer ENG.

To be honest localisation team is largely responsible for injecting most of the flavour in the lore, from chuckle-worthy puns in leves to skill names to written accents. It's thanks to Koji Fox that we have an Encyclopaedia Eorzea.

Sometimes they go full-on autistic with stuff like "n-no it can't be astrologer it has to be astrologian u guys dont know anything!" but whatever.
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>>375904903
honestly I would try to play PLD and max my potential on the little things like that if it could just get some fucking AoE
It's a drag getting a PLD in a dungeon no matter how good they are, and that just isn't fair
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>>375904957
There's an interview where Yoshi says that they still want to keep PLD as the "streamlined" tank that's easy to control.
>>
Why is DRK so fun to play for me?
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>>375904863
t. virgin who got no game and was confused that his clan mates were trying to chat up a girl

get out in the real world to a club or someting to learn the ropes
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>>375905143
Why are you saying that you're a virgin who got no game and was confused that his clan mates were trying to chat up a girl?
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>>375905037
We have no solid idea abuot improvements atm. There's hints from the stormblood benchmark PLD is getting a casted aoe but it's not confirmed, it's just something people think from watching the benchmark.

Right now it's wait and see cause no real info on class changes is out.
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>>375905143
t. whiteknight faggot
good luck hunting that prime e-pussy you fucking retard
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>>375905078
yeah the lack of aoe really hurts, it sucks pulling a massive pack of mobs only to flash it a couple o times and circle of scorn it once
but hey stormblood please look forward to it
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>>375904891
Having fun playing video games?

I couldn't justify playing XIV non-stop, I get bored doing repetitive tasks. I got grind out of my system early in my life, I have to set XIV aside to play SP games. I have a very broad taste which means I have a lot of games to be interested in and play, which is both a blessing and a curse.

Otherwise I'd just play XIV every night.
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>>375904863
Pretty much this, a majority of women that play FF are lesbians anyway from my experience.
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>>375905203
>implying people haven't met up over MMOs
>implying people haven't fucked over MMOs
>implying people didn't find their SO and married over MMOs

If you're only ever gonna be negative and don't try to risk some things and go out of your comfort zone, you're gonna be a very lonely depressed fuck at the end of your journey on this earth
>>
I fucking hate all you faggots I love all you fucking faggots.
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>>375905343
you're not going to be one of them because you're a beta orbiting retard
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>be leaf player
>be healer
>enter dungeon for story purposes
>be the only one that's on the lower end of the spectrum
>everyone else is wearing fancy as fuck armor and are level limited to the max possible for this dungeon
>tank runs through the whole instance
>pulls all of the rooms at once
>I can barely put up with the demanded healing
>tell them to slow down a bit
>"lol fucking noob"
>pulls even more next round
>we wipe

e-epic, desu ne
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>>375904863
>because that's the most beta cuck thing you can do
also because its fucking annoying for her
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>>375905513
>caring about what the girl thinks or wants
looks like we got another whiteknight faggot up in this bitch
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>>375905489
get a load of this noob

it was quite likely your fault, healing dungeons is easy
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>>375904863
>Talking about the FFIX re-release on steam with the FC last year
>Grrl gamer FC leader chimes in on the conversation
>Omg! That's a lot of MMO's in this series!
>mfw
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>>375905489
I had that but the tank was nice and slowed down.
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>>375905604
nah, I didn't even have an aoe heal yet and the tank forgot some of his core skills were missing aswell
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>>375905554
nice try fag, i get people like that every time i join a discord for raid and its fucking annoying
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>>375905343
Just stop man, watching a dude endlessly harass a girl for e-pussy is the cringiest shit.

I watched this top 10 on server BLM literally suck my friends cock because she accidentally unmuted in a call. He kept pming her, harassed her for her discord and then blew a fucking gasket when she told him to fuck off.

If you keep trying to act like some cheesy pick up artist you won't get anywhere. Treat them like a normal person, see if they like you after that.
>>
>All this us vs. them with giiirl gaaamers
>Fuck them
>Don't fuck them
>Treat them like fragile snowflakes
>Treat them like shit
How about just playing the fucking game.
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>>375904617

Now I know why crimson lotus appear when I switch to the stance. THANKS KOJI FOX.

Honestly though some of those names are kind of lame. Blue Energy Canon sounds like a Chinese rip-off name for a Kamehameha.
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>>375905669
LUL, that'd be way too easy now, wouldn't it
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>>375905614
i'd believe "Omg! That's a lot of games in this series!" because that's how people talk, but you tried too hard
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>>375881654
never leave parsers up during 4 mans. it'll only make you depressed
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>>375905737
Fuck off, Kirara, you knew you fucked up when you said that.
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>>375905709
>LUL
jesus christ dude
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>>375905737
>Kirara in 2k17

LUL.
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>>375904617
>Dragoon's skill "cherry blossom" in a game with FF references is renamed to Chaos Thrust
What is Koji's problem? Why do only reddit like him?
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>>375905816
>>375905839
who
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>>375905931
You.
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>>375905912
He's a failed writer I bet, hell most localizers are, so they add their "flair" for a sense of accomplishment
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>>375905983
i googled it and found only something from some anime
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>>375904602
Just be professional and friendly. A word of warning though, it's only a matter of time before they start cat fighting with each other and they look to you for leadership and protection.

Have fun, anon.
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>>375906071
Yeah, nice try, did you know they made Final Fantasy XV last year? Why are they bringing out another MMO? You're retarded and the FC hates you.
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>>375906115
what fc? is it some /v/ reject fc?
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>>375905912

As if people who visit that godforsaken place even play other FF games. At best they probably played X, maybe XIII and now XV. All they see is people talking funny compared to other MMOs and it's something NEW and DIFFERENT so it's GOOD. Never mind what meanings and references get lost in the translation.
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>>375905663
Or, y'know, you all could just play the fucking game like they're trying to and not entertain even the vaguest notion of hooking up with someone via an MMO.
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>>375906113
>tfw lead all female FC
>no catfights
>literally no drama at all

men are the catalyst, remove them and nothing goes wrong
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>>375905912
Wait what's the translation lost now?
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>>375905912
>All those lore decisions made purely based on Koji's desire for a pun, or thinking something sounded better as a slang term one way over another
FFXIV's localization is literally a joke.

Now if only they were all funny we wouldn't have a problem. Sadly this is not the case.
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>>375906201
>Yoshida thinks he's doing good by pandering to Final Fantasy fans with fanservice
>Most of its playerbase is full of WoWrejects who complain about being left out and redditards
He's a hack but I feel sorry for him sometimes.
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>>375906284
There's nothing wrong with trying to hook up with someone. It only becomes a problem when you become a beta-orbiter. I met my wife through Ragnarok online way back when.
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>>375906293
Cherry Blossom is Freya the Dragoon's skill in Final Fantasy IX even has the same petal animation. It's still called that in the JP version but it was changed in the west for some reason.
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>>375906349
>That entire screenshot
I don't know what's worse.
The lack of knowledge about FFVI, or the lack of knowledge about Jewish Mysticism.

>>375906402
To clarify, I don't think there's anything wrong with hooking up with someone over an MMO per-se. It's the idea of deliberately trying that irks me.
>>
I like monk as a DPS but I hear its in a bad spot now? Should I bother or keep leveling healer?
>>
>>375906742
The balance in this game is good enough that only autists really complain about it. You won't get excluded from anything except the most tryhard groups. Level whatever you want.
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>>375906292
>all female

Are they really though, anon? If so, then great, but this is FFXIV.
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>>375906742
both
monk is fine, it's just less good than the other two melee options. it only matters in speedclears which are only for the most autistic raiders of all. not to mention, with SB coming out no one knows how class balance will be affected; it's a roulette so you might as well bet on something you enjoy
>>
>>375906113

Every group and FC I've been in has always collapsed because the guys had disagreements over petty shit and couldn't sort it out. The girls usually bailed by the time half the FC was gone or there was more drama than actual content progression. Only once did one take sides, and that was because the guy getting shat on was her husband. They just took their ball and went home instead of fighting over who was holding the group back.

So basically women can be bitches, but men are not immune to petty infighting that ruins the fun for everyone either. Don't act like it's just a vagina problem.
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How much DPS I'm losing by only doing this rotation, buffs (blood and Surge) and jumps?
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>>375906292
Bullshit, girls literally start drama over the pettiest shit.
>>
>>375906904
>So basically women can be bitches, but men are not immune to petty infighting that ruins the fun for everyone either. Don't act like it's just a vagina problem.

Experiences vary, but in what I've seen first-hand, it was a vagina problem.
>>
>>375906968

>fracture

who made this garbage
>>
>>375906972
I haven't been in many FCs but in my experience the real girls are usually pretty chill, it's the trannies that are walking balls of drama.
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>>375906972
go look at /xivg/ and see if you can still tell me that's a trait exclusive to women
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>>375907047
Those aren't really men, anon. Biologically yes, but they're not men.
>>
>>375907035
>>375907047
Depends really, asian women, especially ones born stateside are catish as fuck. Watched our entire FC erupt because the founder was jealous of a nip girl for being popular on twitter.

Then it was a big clique of members that kept shittalking one of the commanders after that.
>>
>>375907090
>moving the goalposts
>>
>>375907016
>>375906968
it's old as fuck, back in 2.X DRGs were all using this rotation
>>
>>375906816
>>375906878
Thanks also why is it worse? Is it because of the utility? I like the other melees and have NIN at 60 but they are needlessly extra in some aspects with like a million timers on nin and DRG's RNG.
>>
>>375907212
I'm not wrong.
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>>375907241
basically yes. the direct raid dps increase from trick attack and dancing edge, and indirect increase through shadewalker make ninja bring higher raid dps potential. as for DRG they bring disembowel and battle litany, the latter being especially powerful when timed with trick attack

monk personal dps is usually higher than either of them but it's not enough to make up the gap
>>
>>375907241
It's purely because of utility. DRG has Battle Litany and the piercing damage debuff which boosts BRD/MCH damage. NIN has Trick Attack, Goad, and Shadewalker/Smoke Bomb which can allow the tank to stay in dps stance for longer.
>>
>>375907241

Doesn't have the utility of NIN or DRG (Mantra is nice but Trick Attack and Battle Litany are so much better), has no debuff like they do (Dancing Edge/Piercing Thrust), and has middling damage. At least NIN has a lot of useful things it can do for the party to compensate for its lower damage.

This is all for the top players doing speed runs, though. For your average Joe it doesn't matter. Play what you like and do your best with it. You don't need ELITE DEEPS to clear anything right now, just people who can play the job well and do mechanics. Get your rotation right and you'll be doing better than a lot of people anyway.
>>
Sargatanas or Balmung if you want low-tier drama and idiots from /vg/ and /v/

Behemoth, Leviathan, or Hyperion if you want to play the game
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>>375907342
sure you're not, buddy. since you started replying to me our fc has devolved into cattiness and you're right about everything
not really
>>
>>375907449
Technically MNK does have a debuff, it just doesn't affect anyone but themselves, unless your casters are booksmacking.
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>>375907449
>Long ass post

Just say it's because they lack offensive utility you sperg.
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>>375907532
are you afraid of words
>>
>>375907532
>being angry
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>>375907412
How does dancing edge help? Isn't it worse than Storm's Eye?
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>>375907612
It's the same debuff, but really only useful if you don't have a WAR. With a WAR to provide Storm's Eye the NIN can forgo using Dancing Edge in favour of more Aeolian Edges.
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>>375907497
I didn't say it was going to happen instantaneously, anon. Please read carefully next time.
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>>375907612
im dumb, yes it is. i mean if you were running without a warrior for some reason then it'd be useful but yeah
im just a paladin what would i know about being useful
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>>375907509
>not booksmacking as a healer
Fucking shit healers making my runs take 30seconds longer.
>>
>>375907412
>>375907430
>>375907449
I had a feeling thanks guys for the (You)'s I'll just level monk until the expac and maybe switch to one of the newer classes.
>>
>>375907763
Might as well level MNK so you can have gear for SAM if it's powercreeped at the start. It's guaranteed to powercreep at some point at least, so you'll be ready then.
>>
>>375907845
I'm semi-hoping that SAM actually sucks or is difficult to play so that less people bandwagon it.
>>
I was interested in playing this game until I heard you had to grind put 45 levels before becoming a white mage
>>
>>375895523
>have a friend in fc with lvl 60 on all crafts
>he makes full ironworks gathering armour for me
>even helps get some of the rarer mats
>can only afford left side + main/offhand
>next day he makes all the accessories for me anyway

I love you man
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>>375895523
I'm loving it. I have the ingredients already and practiced Rath (making a wad of gil in the process). Only waiting for red scrips for tools.
>>
>>375907890
You get to 30 by playing the main story and it literally doesn't matter who you play it as. I guess if you want to rolepay white mage from 1st second then you wouldn't be able to enjoy FFXIV.
>>
>>375908008
If you have time you can do the crafting log achievements for the Blessed main hand tools, which are equivalent to the red scrip ones.
>>
>>375907895
Being a charitable crafter for your FC is nice.

Like making my friend a Heavy Metal DRK Arm as a "Congrats on reaching 60" gift.
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>>375907895
>Join a FC
>Leader keeps saying that he can craft people whatever and whenever
>"Lol jk pay me money bitch."
>>
>>375908096
>Craft and record completion of 470 unique weaver recipes.
I think I'll wait for the evening to get scrips instead.
>>
>>375907890
30 levels to get the official "White Mage" job title. You're basically still a White Mage when you pick Conjurer. Class system is getting removed in 4.0 preese rook fowaad to it.
>>
>>375908197
My FC offered to craft me Irwonworks for free from my materials. But I want to do it myself.
>>
>>375908237
5.0 you mean, and even that's not confirmed.

They're not going to outright remove the base classes, since it would mean remaking most of the job quests. They'll just streamline the transition process so it's automatic i.e. no need for soul crystal dickery, you'll just automatically become the upgraded job once you finish the quest and can't change back to the base class.
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>>375887349
Don't forget that NeoGAF is on Ultros as well. And they're both shitters and ERPers.


GAF'D
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>>375908382
What about when you have a choice of two jobs for one class?
>>
>>375908474
Hopefully they'll separate SCH and SMN for good somehow. The split system was a mistake since it means you can't change one class without affecting the other.
>>
>>375908538
>removing my free caster class level ups
DELETE THIS REEEEE
>>
>>375908382
If they really are going to get rid of the cross class abilities in favor for an ability pool, they will most likely remove the subclass requirement for jobs and make you instantly be able to upgrade as soon as you hit level 30. I don't see how they will remove soul crystals when they are a big part of the stories of each job.
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>>375908990
The soul crystals will remain as lore objects but they will probably remove the need to have them as equipable items.
>>
New thread bros?
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>>375909573
Make one yourself my dude.
>>
>>375909573
>>375909940
Please no. Remember what happened last week.
Wait 2-3 hours at least.
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