Is this metroidvania momodora any good?

Yea

It's pretty good. All 4 hours of it.

>>375871916
It's short, but good. Apparently the 5th game was announced for 3d, but quickly cancelled after that. Anyone have any news on why?

>>375872886
the dev released a trailer for the 5th and it was prepreprepre-alpha so obviously it looked like dogshit and a ton of people started shitting on him saying going 3d was a mistake and he ruined the game. the dev has incredibly thin skin so he said fuck this deleted his twitter and canceled the game. who knows if he'll come back

>>375872886
Probably because the teaser they showed looked like utter shovelware garbage and everyone hated it.

>>375872886
ask @rdein on Twitter, he's the dev.

>>375872886

Because it looked like hot garbage.

>>375872886
Didn't seem cancelled last time I checked but it seemed horrible. I guess it's the dude's first take ever on 3D. He should only ever had released that after getting better grip in that

>>375871916
It was great, though felt short.

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>>375873115
He didn't cancel the game you retard he's just not gonna talk about it until it's in a more developed state.

>>375873371
oh I didn't realize he changed his diaper and came back. I have a tendency to not follow child devs drama but this one was funny enough that I couldn't help but remember it

>>375873472
(You)

>>375871916

It's excellent. I don't know why everyone thinks it's too short. I did a 100% run my first time through and it took almost 7 hours, which I think is a great length for this kind of game. Nothing felt like filler, it was all very focused and felt great to play through. And it's fucking 15 bucks, so why would anyone expect it to be longer than that?

Obviously, subsequent playthroughs didn't take as long as my first, but to me that just makes it all the more replayable, because I can just sit down and beat it in an afternoon. If I have to do a dozen sittings to get through a game I never feel like playing it a second time.

Probably one of my favorite games of all time.

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>>375873371

>>375873746
It's because you did a 100% run. Most people judge it on how long it takes for you to beat the story. And Momodora doesn't take long for that.

Like, the maps don't even feel that big, I think it's mostly due to the difficulty that slows you down in some areas. It's a fairly small game even without taking it in considartion.

It's pretty good.

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>>375873371
>people interpreted the footage as different from previous games
Well gee, maybe that's not because of people getting the wrong idea, but because every previous game was a 2D platformer and the new one is a fucking 3D action game.

>>375871916
Incredibly short, like 4 hours

It's also incredibly easy to get the true ending.

>>375873746
>I did a 100% run my first time through and it took almost 7 hours
That's because you're slow as fuck. I did the same and finished it in 4:26:45.

>>375873371
I thought brazillians were a troll race without a spec of emotion except for ridiculing people. It's as if this guy is the opposite of the rest.

Well, at least it's reassuring that the game is still continuing. Hopefully the final product wont be anything like that monstruosity

>>375873115
>prepreprepre-alpha
t. complete fucking retard who doesnt know anything about game development

>>375872614
This, word for word

Hollow Knight is better though

momodora iv was fucking radical. play it man. reminded me most of mega man zero, actually.

>>375874735
You only think that because you only notice the retarded ones.

Didn't know that the Momodora Dev is Brazilian

>>375874217
The difference between the good ending and the bad ending is whether or not you're curious enough to find the green box the well tells you you need which really isn't hidden so it's more like whether or not you're willing to go back to the well and use it once you find it.

It took me seven hours too but only because I was trying beat Pardoner Finnel without spamming arrows, because the arrow mechanic in many ways is too broken for the game.

The only thing I missed was Finnel's sister which isn't necessary for the ending and is just the game Gwyndolin.

GIANT

WITCH

TITTIES

>>375874918
Meh, I preferred Momodora over it. Hollow Knight was bigger and stuff, but felt... hollow. Like, it's something about the setting on Momodora that made me like it more. I guess I'm more biased to it, but made me like it more due to that, more people, religious themes, more colors, stuff like that.
Hollow Knight felt like it put far more emphasis on the whole exploration aspect rather than the rest.

>>375875031
Based on the names in the credits I'd say he's in the Japanese part of Brazil.

>>375875031
I was playing Spark the Electric Jester and people pointed out something about how this game's dev and Momodora were both brazillian, further research later pointed that out too.

Though the creator of Momodora feels more whiny after that tweet. Sure, dude must have been hurt due to the backlash, but he basically begged for it by announcing a game like that. It felt like he used an engine from those Nico Nico dance videos

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>>375875148
Not gonna lie, my interest for this game came mainly for smacking giantess tits

>>375875468
Her role in the story was questionable. Was she the one who offered and made the cursed pact with the queen? I don't remember them going into detail.

>>375875150
I preferred the combat and abilities in Hollow Knight over Momodora

Those bosses and fights were great.

>>375875627
It's barely explained. The whole game followed this Dark Souls meme of making the plot as obscure as possible.

>>375871916
decent, short as hell, overhyped because anime but dont take that to mean its a bad game. Due to it's length its not really a strong metroidvania simply because theres not much to explore.

Amazing ost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm-8LKGVGiY&index=14&list=PLAAF5GvfoM-XiQVLIRS24GxKCnBEr2FE4

hollow knight

>>375873161
>@rdein
suspended nigger

>>375874918
Hollowshills really love shilling their game in every other metroidvania thread. why not just make your own thread, oh yea because no one cares about it.

>>375875889
Yeah but you need a lot better item descriptions and more character dialog to do that.

Almost all the items in the game just name something and its use while giving no idea of what they're talking about. Like the Freya's thread basically saying that the ghost bird you fought was so useless it was abandoned and it's impossible to tell if it was human.

I mean I guess it was actually a bird once because of the cage? But who throws a bird out for being "useless".

>>375871916
The game looks great, but frankly speaking I found it just ok in terms of gameplay. I don't really like the way it did difficulty (I played the game on hard), it felt like every enemy had too much health and did too much damage, which prompt you to use the bow which isn't very enjoyable.
The only really fun boss I can remember is the sword welding priestess. That fight was really nice, also the soundtrack during that fight was the best in the whole game.

>>375876228
I actually made a thread yesterday asking about the music

I beat it myself just a couple days ago but couldn't remember any of the songs.

>>375871916
its mediocre

the enemies are garbage and the combat is too easy

the environments are forgettable

the upgrades are literally all bow upgrades

the bosses are super lackluster

the story is nonexistent

I haven't finished it. I bought it because hitting witch enormous boobs in the trailer.

>buying a game made by a fucking BRAZILIAN GAY FURRY

>>375871916
rabi ribi was barely mediocre this one isn't just more moeshit shovelware garbage is it? going to play it either way.

>>375871916
yes

>>375876963
It's cavestory meets touhou meets dark souls meets symphony of the night.

>>375876963
>rabi-ribi
>barely mediocre

so you weren't able to beat cicini, cocoa, or insert name here

doesn't mean the game sucked.

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It's mediocre but you'll enjoy it if you don't play games of the same genre much.

>>375871916

The game is short and easily cheesed with arrow spam, but it can be fun. However, the only good boss in The Pardoner. Every other boss is just some big idiot who stands there while you wail on them.

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>>375877128
Not only is that completely inaccurate, but it also disrespects Cave Story, Touhou, Dark Souls and Symphony of the Night by acting as if Momodora is even a tiny bit as good as those games. Please don't embarass yourself or disrespect others further.

>>375877320
You're completely retarded if you think all of those weren't a direct influence for the game. Go eat shit, fuckface.

>>375877220
this, honestly.

If you haven't played it already, emulate Castlevania: SOTN. Momodora IV is like a cheap knockoff.

>>375877160
What? The game is piss easy, I never got stuck just stopped due too apathy, the girl colors don't entertain me as much as the next autistic man child, I guess.

In conclusion. It's shit, your waifu is shit and YOU are shit anon.

I played it to smack big blue boobs around then got to the boss with the big laser beam attack and stopped, did it get better after that

>>375877446
There is ZERO influence from Cave Story and SotN, barely any influence from touhou, and while there are many places where it outright plagiarizes from dark souls, it's also not done half as well. Also, don't act like such a mediocre game on every front is worth comparing to such substancial games. I shit out any dark souls clone I wanted but that wouldn't make it worth comparing. In fact, you're actually going to make the experience worse for new players by raising their expectations, and that's fucked up.

>>375877647
Yes.

>>375877518
>If you haven't played it already, emulate Castlevania: SOTN. Momodora IV is like a cheap knockoff.
So it's more like rogues legacy? cool that game is pretty good.

>>375877720
The fact that the game isn't good doesn't mean it was heavily influenced by other series. Quit with the autism, fuckface.

>d-don't you dare mention them in the same breath!!1!

Fuck off, retard.

>>375877753
Oh. This is a bait thread. Pretending mediocre games are good in order to piss off autists who don't understand that mediocre games can be fun to those who don't play games much. Gotcha, moving on.

>>375877903
I get you're a shill but you're really not doing yourself any favors. If someone goes into Momodora thinking it's a darksouls/cave story/touhou/sotn hybrid, they're surely going to refund it before the 2 hour point.

>>375877727
Sojourn me with tales of this greatness anonymous

>>375877943
Game has anime, it's impossible to get an accurate opinion about it as a result.

>>375877538
What difficulty did you play with?

>>375878020
>s-shill!

Holy fuck, you need a psychiatrist. Shut the fuck up.

>>375878091
how many animes does the game have

>>375878069
Play the damn game, faggot.

>>375878185
probably like 12

>>375878243
No.

>>375878152

I like that you ignored my point in order to make fun of me for calling you something you could be.

Even if you're not a shill, it's obvious you want more people to play the game, otherwise you wouldn't put the effort to tell another anon what it's like. I'm just saying that you're not going to convince someone to like it if you compare a game of its nature to a 8/10 or 9/10 game. Comparing it to Dark Souls or whatever will only raise their expectations, and the game will disappoint them. Do you want that?

>>375877943
>people like things I don't like? Impossible!
Personally I just like roguelikes (inb4 autism over terminology because rl isn't a carbon copy of rogue) more than metroidvanias even though a large majority of roguelikes are pretty shit.

>>375878358
Post your steam because I want to have a legitimate conversation with you in order to determine if you are either a shitposter, a confused teenager, someone with autism, or something else entirely. I'm hoping the latter because that'd be cool.

>>375871916
It's too short and easy, but it's decently polished.

>>375878358
>>375878358
That's not what I said, it's no surprise that people like mediocre games, hell some people even like bad games, it's all fine and dandy, but treating mediocre/bad games like they're good games either means 1) you're inexperienced and got genuine enjoyment out of them due to not being introduced to the monotony of the average release or 2) you're a shitposter trying to make people mad.

The former is completely fine, it's natural and everyone goes through it, some might say it's their favorite phase of taking part in a new artistic medium, but the latter is just subhuman and degenerate.

I had a lot of fun with it. Played it on hard my first time, it was pretty tricky but the best choice.

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>>375878701
>unironically samefags
You're opinions aren't the end all be all faggot, calm down, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>375878826
So you're a shitposter, thanks for letting me know.

>>375878358
> I just like roguelikes (inb4 autism over terminology because rl isn't a carbon copy of rogue)
Why calling them roguelike when the term roguelite exists?

>>375878908
Because he's trying to make you mad, as confirmed by >>375878826
>>375878826

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>>375878902
>y-you're just a shitposter my opinions are fact!

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>>375878908

>falling for bait that's literally labeled as bait

It was pretty good but not very long.
The bow kinda make it easy though

>>375877160
I dropped it because of the bullshit level scaling.

>>375877518
SOTN has way too much loading.

>>375876476
(You)

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I adore momodora, I love how it went from "cave story with cute girls" to its own thing. 3 is my personal favorite and it's one of those games I always go back to play every few months.

>>375876932
What's wrong with being a furry?

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>>375880605
3 has the best music by far too.

>>375878318
(You)

>>375874735
The non jungle monkey ones do

I put this game on list of western games I thought about playing maybe

I found the game to be pretty unmemorable and I can't really understand all the praise for it. All I remember is that is was short as hell, had lame and easy bosses, and you turn into a cat at some point.

Modora was a nice game, but the popularity around it is strange, specially considering the length and lack of emphasis on story. Normally you'd expect it to be either a longer game, have bigger maps, or have a bigger story, but in those three aspects, it's rather small.

>>375882087

Small isn't necessarily bad. Sometimes it's just more focused, which can be better. The amount of useless filler and padding in modern games is ridiculous and a small game like Momodora that's just nothing but great content without filler is refreshing. I wish more games cut the filler in favor of focus. Less is more.

>>375872886
Why can't I find a video of it?

>>375876932
How much ping does he have

>>375871916
The fact that enemies had contact damage felt really out of place to me. It worked in the older games since they emulated the look and feel of Cave Story, but it just felt wrong here in most cases.

>>375873115
He really does have thin skin, he tried to go to the gamedev general in /vg/ for a bit. It absolutely destroyed him.

>>375874918
fuck hollow knight, shit is boring as fuck

>>375882087
>>375881891

It's anime styled so its bound to have people who hype it to be more than it actually is.

>>375882959
Do you have an archive or vould you summerize what happened? Cause, as far as I know, /vg/ is pretty mild compared to /v/

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>>375882087
the presentation is 10/10

>>375884191
>Mario and centipede lady in both places

Love it.

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Salt and Sanctuary is the better metroidvania.

>at least 4 times longer
>at least 5 times more replayable thanks to actual classes
>58 times more weapons (8 times more weapons if you count entire weapon classes as a single weapon)
>multiplayer
>npc sidequests
>3 times as many movement abilities
>covenant system
>shittonnes more areas, bosses, shortcuts, secrets, unlockables

But there aren't anime tits and you can't transform into a cat so I guess it's shit lmao.

>>375884382
it's not as fun though

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I tend to always compare these two games in my head

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>>375884382

>arguing for quantity over quality

I got this game for free, so no complaints there. It's not bad, but could be longer.

>>375884382
Barely any exploration, lack of map kills it.

Good pixel art
Good music

What's not to love?

>>375884382
Dont forget the god awful art style that Salt and Sanctuary has, it literally kills any drive that I have to play the game.

>>375885160
Shitty gameplay
Shitty lenght
Shitty bosses
Shitty ending
Shitty exploration

>>375885271
wrong
except for length.

>>375885271
>what is every game in this genre ever for $300 alex

>>375883340
/agdg/ is a unique place, it has its own breed of shitposters that are vicious and dedicated to their cause. I don't think the archive goes that far back, and I was overexaggerating a bit, but from what I remember he started going there, got pissy because someone was making a game that looked somewhat like Momodora and then deactivated his Twitter for a week or so. Apparently he apologized afterwards but I never saw it.
>>375882552
https://youtu.be/iMcits9JMT8
It looks fine for an alpha

>>375871916
good art, bad gameplay, terrible level design, tryhard shit, really.. better luck next time. oh wait, this is their third try.
the smear animation is really cool when you attack tho.

>>375885240
It's really a shame that the characters look so weird, the environments generally look pretty great (though sometimes the insistence on DARK DARK DARK is shitty)

Also a shame that there was barely any music at all, the last area was legitimately great because of the music. It's like it tried to be lazy and do Dark Souls no music, but also Castlevania only 2 different boss themes.

It's a fun game, it's pretty big in scope, and has a lot of great stuff (the movement skills and their interplay was very well thought out, even if the blue/red torch thing was meh), but it also has some fairly infuriating flaws that mar it pretty heavily, like the bizarre character style, not having any in-game map, enemies sometimes being poorly designed (tele-skeletons are a prime example, sometimes they'll just teleport so many times they'll actually deaggro because they haven't 'seen' you for so long), and probably some others that don't come to mind immediately.

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>>375885562
the art is really lacking

>>375885240
bad opinion

>>375885009
casual

>>375884928
Momodora has prettier animations. But I prioritise gameplay, variety, breadth of mechanics, replayability and actual content over a nice twirly leaf attack animation.

>>375875150
>Hollow Knight felt like it put far more emphasis on the whole exploration aspect rather than the rest.
Almost like it's a Metroidvania or something.

>>375885240
going too far with the ska part of ska software. everything looks like it belongs on 90s deck art.
it's a good game if you can get past the artstyle though, IMO the best dark souls clone out there.

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Momodora 1 is fun because it's a Cave Story clone and that's hard to fuck up.
More modora 2 and 3 are fun because they feel like they are to Cave Story what Zero was to Megaman X.
Momomodorora 4 is garbage because it tried to reuse a bunch of attack assets and enemy behaviors from the prior games, but is also trying to do a dumb "Dark Souls Inspired" thing, so there's also a bunch of pointless shit like a roll and slow clunky enemies shoehorned in. It totally betrayed the speed of the originals and is reusing too much shit to be a cohesive new title.

Guy needs to go back to square one and figure out what he wants to do with his shit.

>>375874848
Just a joke tho

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>>375885781
While I dislike the character art style, I think Salt and Sanctuary actually looks pretty good in motion - your armor and dangly shit actually moves pretty well, and the animations are varied enough to be interesting - like an actual unique animation for a scythe riposte instead of just being a polearm stab.

The Kraeken Drake looked a little wonky, but by and large the bosses moved pretty well too.

But when it comes to a map, that's a legitimate flaw. It's clearly trying to be Dark Souls - in Dark Souls you have a 3D free camera and can look off into the distance to see where you are in relation to everything else, a 2D game doesn't offer that and should have an alternative - maybe just a vague map like this that only uncovers the area the areas you've entered or something.

>>375871916
not really very good. i don't mind that it's short, but the gameplay is slow and clunky and just complete garbage. don't fall for the meme.

https://youtu.be/ht-IL7eccrE

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>>375880605
I definitely loved 3 and 4. Like everyone always says, they don't last long, but they're fun while they last. And for the price they usually are, I do not mind at all.

>>375885562
Yeah, that alpha footage doesn't look too bad. I would be a bit more interested if it went away from Soulslike shit, but as long as it doesn't turn into something like Trine 3 where the game is left rushed, shitty, etc., I am fine with this.

>>375886756
>dem thighs
M-muh dick!

The game needs more lewds

>>375886756
The hoodie only makes it better

Oh shit, I didn't realize the PS4 port had come out.
Vita when?

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>/v/ suddenly hates momodora

what, did it become popular or something?

>>375887413
That's a cowl you stooge

>>375887725
I don't hate it, it's just extremely disappointing and a wasted opportunity. Its like a quarter of a great game. What's there is great, don't misunderstand this, but it's still only a quarter of a game.

>>375887725
Basically

>>375887725
Who is that