>S-SWITCH WON'T GET THIRD PARTY SUPPOR- Switch – 74,217

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>Wii U – 184
>Xbox One S – 169

What are these numbers, and why should I care about them

>>375863906
Consoles sold this week in Japan. The Switch comes out on top with literally no games so it begs the question of what would happen if it actually had games worth playing.

>>375863906
Japanese sales in the past week. Basically Switch has been consistently selling more than everything else combined even now that the launch rush should have died down.

Do you think that japs are just holding out for a mon hun switch? since it is "portable"

>>375863906
Switch is outpacing PS4 bya wide wargin even after release hype has died.

Basicaly it means Japanese games will be PS4 and Switch, or Switch exclusive from now on.

>>375862949
>takashi mochizuki

this nintenbroter wsj journalist should be banned

>>375864063
>>375864018
Why would I care about how many units the Switch sells? Nintendo keeps stock low to artificially inflate demand. Of course everybody is going to buy it.

Why did you take this time out of your day to announce this shit? Did you believe something amazing and profound was going to happen with this thread?

Non-nintendofags:
>"Oh! I am so pained! My dear console is not selling well! How could this be, I am taken aback!"

>>375862949
>Xbox One S – 169

>>375864265
>>375864352
Wew, the anger and defensiveness is already starting.

>>375864242
WiiU was outpacing PS4 in japan

Where are the games for my WiiU?

>>375864352
>Nintendo spends 50 bucks more on each system to ship it by plane to meet demand
Damn, that's a retarded way to create artificial demand. It's almost like they weren't doing that at all.

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>New Survival RPG Zanki Zero By Danganronpa Team Announced For PS4 And PS Vita

Switch isn't even acknowledged LMFAO

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/04/25/new-survival-rpg-zanki-zero-danganronpa-team-announced-ps4-ps-vita/#srE6gCXJtAA2fY0M.99

>>375864352
you had a question and i answered you double nigger, why should i care if you don't care? why enter a thread like this to announce all of this when you could just simply ignore it and move on?

>>375862949
So should I get one to play Darksiders 3?

You guys are gonna act surprised in 4 years when switch is abandoned because of no support. Nobody wants to develop for a fucking gimmicky tablet.

>>375864687
Why would you want to buy Darksiders 3 in the first place?

>>375862949

Wow you beat the PS4. Woah.

>he wants to call nintendo childish

Fuck you faggots. I would beat the fuck out of any of you sony niggers in this thread

>>375862949
>still has nothing but ports
Wow

>>375865004
>still clearing stock two months on
Wow

>>375865174
>two months
>clearing stock refers to selling all 2 consoles that Nintendo ships out to each store

>>375864352
>Nintendo keeps stock low to artificially inflate demand. Of course everybody is going to buy it.


HOW DOES THIS MAKE ANY FUCKING LICK OF SENSE YOU BIZARRE LITTLE MONKEY MAN?

I'M FUCKING SERIOUS.

I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THE "ARTIFICIAL SCARCETY" AND "INFLATED DEMAND" AND "WITHHELD STOCK" BULLSHIT.

HOW CAN IT SELL A LOT IF THE STOCK IS LOW? WHAT THE FUCK?

EXPLAIN YOURSELF.

>>375864979
Nintendo is childish though. They literally make games for kids. Sorry you can't handle the truth.

The Great /v/ Salt when Splatoon 2 drops is going to be glorious.

>>375865398
How are those two statements related though?

>>375865398
And you wouldn't say this to my face bitch. So who really is the scared little child

>>375865331
Holy shit lmao
>being retarded

How it works is:
>stock is low
>people know stock is low
>results in impulse purchases whenever anyone sees a switch
>results in no inventory sitting
>results in everyone thinking the switch is doing incredibly well

vs

>stock is high
>consoles sitting everywhere
>nobody buys
>waiting for sale
>everyone shits on Nintendo for not moving stock

unannounced titles ala rabbids rpg

>IT'LL GET GAME J-JUST YOU WAIT AND S-SEE!!!!!
literally the most faggot thing you can do

why buy a console now, with no games, on the hope that if it sells well it MIGHT get games in future? oh right, so you can shitpost on /v/...

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>>375865448
The salt over BotW and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is enough to sustain me until pic related scores 99 and destroys this board.

>>375865546
Yeah, no.

That is not "how it works".

Switch sold well doesnt mean anything. third parties AAA games never come to it because of technical issues. And if some games without kiddie shits are multiplat with PS4, most of people buy it on PS4

>>375865174
What does that have to do with the fact that its library is complete and utter shit?
Nintendo consoles arent even worth owning nowadays. Even the Wii library was ported away

>>375865331
Literally the "limited edition" principal, you absolute retard.
If people think the Switch is some super hard to get product, people will try their hardest to get it right out the gate.

>>375865606
not my fault you're an idiot anon

>>375862949
wow! they're still selling 6000 vitas a week over there?!

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>>375862949
WiiU got 3rd party support, it's retaining them that matters. Which Nintendo hasn't been able to do since GBA/Gamecube. If it retains them, good then they have to get good games which is the next step.

WiiU did not get good 2nd and 3rd party titles aside 4-5 standout games which, comparatively the same for the Wii which only got moshit control garbage made specifically for it and dumbed down multiplats of shit like COD with the Wiimote worked in.

I'll wait and see and if it fails I'll just continue not caring. I wont be burned again and blindly support a physically weak and game deprived platform. For all we know they could be trash like call of duty, just dance, and other spinoffs no one cares about.

>sony fanboy here (i have always preferred their emphasis on japanese culture) i dont see how this is bad

Why cant we all just get along

>>375865667
No.

If they sell all the stock they are producing, how are they creating artificial scarcity?

>>375865667
>There's enough stock to beat records but it's still limited
Sasuga /v/

>>375865603
>ports
so this... is the power.... of the nintenport shit.... woah..........

>>375865658
Use your brain dipshit, if it's selling this well with only BotW and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe then it's only natural to assume it will dominate the handheld market with big hitters such as Smash and Monster Hunter

>>375865758
Well I'm not.

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Switch won't be getting major third party support, no. Devs are desperate to stay off of Nintendo hardware because they don't want to have to compete with pic related.

This is why we see weird situations like Final Fantasy continuing to see releases on Xbox despite doing really poorly on that platform.

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>>375865603
>MFW Odyssey gets a 99 before dropping to 98 because of Cuck Sterling & Co.

>>375864604
Literally who?

>>375865778
You're such a fag. If you really thought it wan't important you wouldn't have even called yourself a weeb fanboy.

>>375865843
Keep it coming.

>>375865776
>WiiU got 3rd party support, it's retaining them that matters. Which Nintendo hasn't been able to do since GBA/Gamecube.
What about DS and 3DS?

>third party support

the switch is just gonna be the new dumping ground for indie titles.
I dont understand why you faggots wont believe this.

Animal Crossing switch when

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>>375862949
>an IT product that's been out a month is selling better than product that's been out for a few years
What a shocker.

>>375865843
>ports
>still sells more than any new game released this year
really stimulates my brain pussy

remember all the wii u """nintendomination""" threads? i hope somebody is capping these threads for a future image when the switch inevitably maintains nintendo numbers (i.e. okay but not great)

>>375866054
and what does one have to do with the other?

still no reason to buy a switch, especially when all its games are free on cemu

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Is /v/ ever right? I remember so many people telling me Japan would hate it. It's too big, it's not a handheld. They'll start buying Vitas instead.

>>375862949
What was announced? Can't find anything on famitsu.

>>375866192
They're holding off for E3.

>>375866176
/v/ is the Michael Pachterof video game boards. Right once in a blue moon but mostly wrong and says a lot of really stupid shit.

>>375865989
Nintendo are being REALLY MEAN to the indies, alright?

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/04/feature_the_growing_pains_of_curation_on_the_nintendo_switch_eshop


Well anyway, they're keeping dev kit production on a relatively low burn and shipping them all to their big partners.

Smaller devs and particularly indies have had a really hard time getting their hands on the kits compared to what was the case with Wii and Wii U.

At this point indie devs still can't order a Switch kit from the dev portal at all. You have to have a connection with nintendo based on a game brief you have sent to a representative.

>>375865935
Or the simple fact that the hardware cannot handle the games

>>375866054
That's literally false.

>>375866290
>They're holding off for E3
>They're holding off for Treehouse
>T-they're holding off for TGS
>S-seriously guys they're holding off for Gamescon I p-promise....
>T-theyre just holding off for E3..........
repeat for the next few years

you faggot early adopters never learn

>>375866375
But that is not actually a fact.

>>375866054
gonna need some numbers to back that up laddie

>>375866345
Spoiled bastards. Last time all the big publishers returned their WiiU dev kits, that's not happening now.

Switch won't get any true AAA third party support. It's too weak.

>switch getting a SK game
>it's just a shitty digital only VN
>no confirmation of either Versus games

Switch still has no third party support.

>>375866637
>Too weak
So it's a console?

>>375866514
This.

All they have to do is design the games around the specifications for the hardware.

For example, we saw plenty of ports of PS360 games hit PS2 and Wii. Why couldn't the same thing happen with Switch?

>>375865603
And here we go, Nintendofags are already claiming another games a near perfect score before it's even out.
It's gonna be botw all over again which is now clearly a 7-8 at best

>>375866567
Lots of kits were available. And Nintendo still made indies pay through the nose for them.

Indies that they KNEW would never have time to finish up a production for the system anyway.

>>375866290
What are they? HD rumble asuka game with E3 direct? it will be cool

>>375866716
one weaker than the weak ones released three years ago (which also just got a refresh), yes

>>375862949
Oh shit Wii U is beating Xbox.

>>375866758
It could. Easily.

>>375865902
Different anon. You are.

>>375866758
>we saw plenty of PS360 games hit PS2
yearly sports games and that was about it

>>375864242

By the time the Switch catches up to the PS4 (if it even does) the PS5 will be out and everyone will have moved on to the next generation once again leaving Nintendo behind as has become the norm.

>>375866758
>Why couldn't the same thing happen with Switch?

Because the Switch is literally a Wii U Pro.

>>375866482
What they've shown is already a solid lineup. And we're saying that they have unannounced titles which they'll announce at E3, something Kimishima directly told investors you fucking idiot.

>>375866552
>>375866382
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2017/170428e.pdf
>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild has won
immense popularity with recorded sales of 2.76 million units
Mario Kart 8 deluxe sold 500k in its first day

>>375864018
>Zelda
>Mario Kart
Move the goal posts all you want but that's 2 games over the PS4.

God help you all when Splatoon 2 is released, it's got more pre-orders than Dragon's Quest.

>>375864242
>Basicaly it means Japanese games will be PS4 and Switch, or Switch exclusive from now on.
call me when this actually happens

>>375862949
>more unannounced titles

Switch Music?
Switch Party?
Switch Sports?
Switch (insert activity)?

It won't get any third party support because no one wants to develop for an under powered tablet.

How long until they release a Smash Bros port for the Switch?

>switch only sells in japan
>PS4 sells worldwide
>japanese devs want to sell on a worldwide scale these days
I laugh anyone says Switch will get tons of japanese exclusives.

>>375866637
Define "true".

>>375862949
>3DS outsold the PS4 by miles
>nip devs kept making PS4 games and putting shovelware in 3DS
'k

>>375862949
delet

>>375866972
>they have unannounced titles which they'll announce at E3
which could be anything from Switch Sports Resort to Switch Art Academy

stop hyping up literally nothing, you never learn

>>375866970
And Wii U had stuff like Black Flag and whatnot.

>>375862949

The 3ds outsold everything in Japan and it still lost third party support to the Vita in droves because Nintendo fans only buy Nintendo games. I don't think the Switch selling well is going to correlate to third party support. Publishers that aren't Capcom, Bamco or SE will test the waters, lose money and fuck off like it always happens when Nintendo launches a new machine.

>>375867068
Different markets anon, the 3DS is like 50p and still gets games.

This thread is why sales threads should be banned here. It brings out you console war cunts in droves all acting as if one is somehow better than the other. You aren't. You're all the same cancer that ruin this shit hole of a board.

>>375866975
Also to something Sonyfags won't comprehend is that both are considered Evergreen titles, their sales won't fall off a cliff to be stimulated for one week of sales when they get bargain binned priced for 75% off.

Expect a game like Mario Kart to be creeping around the top 10 sales of the week for years like Animal Crossing for the 3DS was if Switch ends up gaining a true foothold.

>>375867083
>japanese sales worldwide
uhhhhhhh excuse me mr. 1% attach rate

Japan will still develop games for the PS4.

>>375865606
>>375865902

I'll humor you. How does artificial scarcity actually work and explain how what nintendo is doing is different.

>>375867141
>Monster Hunter and Shin Megami Tensei are now shovelware

'k

>>375867284

I would care about games sales for any system if I owned any stock in any company that produces video games however I don't so I don't care about profits perhaps I could interest you in >>>/biz/

>>375865979
What about them? DS saw the same support as GBA if a little less as it got a lot of lazy compilations and ports. 3DS got monster hunters and...spinoffs? Supports been waning since the early 2000's so my point still stands despite few titles that can be pointed out.

>>375867183
It doesn't matter what it is, the point is they have unannounced titles. Whether or not your belief that they'll all be magically shit 1st party shovelware is irrelevant.

>>375866978
>that's 2 games over the PS4
no it isn't

the reason "PS4 has no games!!!" became a thing was because you faggots wouldn't count games on PS3/Vita, now you have a console that by your own definition has no games and want to change the rules
meanwhile PS4 has managed to rack up a neat little library of ACTUAL exclusives because it's been out for a few years

in a few years the switch will probably have the same, but as of now it literally has nothing

>>375867321
It is not an actual thing that Nintendo is doing.

Why do they constantly release Japanese sale numbers for the Switch? Where are the world wide numbers?

>>375867298
>attach rate
meaningless

>>375867336
compared to Persona, SMT games are noticeably low budget, and the only Persona game on 3DS was essentially shovelware.

>>375867512
>Meaningless!!!!!!!!
Nope.

>>375867509
Hidden by the Jews

>>375867517
How does being noticably low budget make something shovelware?

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>>375867509
>Where are the world wide numbers?

>>375867509
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2017/170428e.pdf
3 million worldwide, it's easier to record sales in one country week after week.

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>3DS sold 5 times than the Vita
>most of small third parties chose vita

>>375867517
They're on a low budget because Persona stole all the fucking money due to being weebbait. Absolute cancer, hopefully SMT HD will remedy this shite.

>>375867625
how is SMTIV not shovelware?

>>375867607
>we sold 9 copies of our game on console that has sold 10 units, we have a 90% attach rate!!!!!!
see: wii u

Then show them fag

>>375867321
you're fucking dumb if you think any company would deliberately withhold stock from ready and willing customers just so they could get "Switch Sold Out!" headlines

>>375867509
These numbers are from Media Create, a Japnese industry watch that openly publicises game system and software sales numbers. For Japan.

It's not numbers from Nintendo.

The NPD Group gathers numbers from most of the world, but they charge analysts and investors a lot of money for this knowledge.

>>375867298
There is a reason PS4 keeps getting japanese exclusives announced for it. Think for yourself instead of reposting /v/ shitposts.

>>375867336
>monster hunter
>not shovelware

I dont think MH is a bad game but 3DS series were literally shovelware

>>375863906
its their power level anon

>>375864352
Japanese sales anon

the low stock is a american tatic, japan gets all the consoles

>>375867741
Explain the NES Mini and the Amiibos

>>375867703
kek, only Uncharted 4 had better sales rate than Nintendo exclusives.

>>375867696
Shovelware means something ported onto a console without being fitted probably for that system.

It's "shoveled" onto it. Moved from somewhere else with very little finesse.

It's got nothing to do with general quality or production value.

Ask yourself if that describes SMTIV.

NINTENDO WILL GET THIRD PARTY JAPANESE SUPPORT. SURPRISE, YOU WONT BE GETTING BATTLEFRONT OR COD ON IT. BUT JAP SHIT IS A SURE THING. NO ONE COULD'VE FIGURED THAT OUT. GOD I HATE THESE SHIT BAIT THREADS.

>>375862949
So, where are those third party games?

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>>375862949
>brand new console sells a lot
WOW WHAT A SHOCKER

>>375868003
This, it fucking blows my mind how much that word is abused on this board.

>>375867934
No, YOU explain them.

WHY would they deliberately sell LESS than they could?

What would they stand to gain from this tactic?

>>375867681
The Switch's dev kits are really cheap so it's probably gonna get more support.
Plus, the Vita will probably be discontinued in a year.

>>375867681
this

>>375868003
So why do we call most of PS2, Wii and DS' libraries as shovelware?

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>>375862949
>sales
So what?
Wii destroyed both X360 and PS3 in sales and it had minimal third party support aside from obnoxious amounts of shovelware.

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>>375868016
What's even worse is bating to give a shit or pretend that anyone likes or cares about Battlefront or COD, fucking retard.

>>375867419
Except the PS3 and Vita didn't have any games and the if you were old enough you'd know that Sony was pimping the Blu Ray player over video games.

PS4 is the same thing, just rehashes of older shit and nothing to set itself apart from its predecessor, it just exists.

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wew lad

>>375865483
The one making threats to a screen.

>>375868148
Because we're stupid.

In case of Ninjabread Man and Anubis II and Trixie's Toy Land, however, game really did get shoveled onto the Wii.

>>375868047
my ass

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>>375868164
>>375868054
I love this denial. At first it was going to be gigantic flop, now it's expected to sell well because apparently it appeals to casuals.

>>375862949
>S-SWITCH WON'T GET THIRD PARTY SUPPOR-
Hope it does, but i'm still not seeing any real evidence of it. If they don't deliver at E3 I'm going to feel comfortable not picking it up till next year honestly.

>>375867934
What is there to explain? You're the one saying there's some anomaly here, explain yourself first, dipshit. But I'll humor you:

>Amiibos are readily available and have been for two years.
>I don't know why the discontinued the NES Mini, that was strange but it's not "artificial scarcity" if there aren't any to buy at all.

>>375868218
Time to move the goal. Wii numbers won't be good enough anymore. It needs to do DS numbers.

>>375867934
explain what? surely you dont think fully discontinuing production and sales of the nes mini is a tactic to get more sales, right?

>>375866176
>They'll start buying Vitas instead.
I like my Vita but that's really hilarious

>>375868280
>Pokemon Go
>Wii
>all their portable consoles
Since when has Nintendo not appealed to casuals?
And nothing points at Switch getting third party support.
Sales are not enough, people are not going to make entirely new versions of games for the obsolete hardware of the Switchm, just like the Wii.

>>375868314
It'll get original games, not AAA multilats.

Why anyone thinks AAA multiplats will magically boost sales is beyond me, people don't buy or play those games on Nintendo platforms. The demographic publishers want for their AAA shit simply isn't there.

>>375868314
Well it's not like they need to deliver before E3.

The system is disappearing off shelves pretty quickly, so any more right now would be overselling it.

What are you hoping to see this June?

>>375864604
>danganronpa
Wow, it's literally nothing.

I don't get it, all through the Wii U's lifespan /v/ was saying Nintendo didn't need 3rd party support, but now that the Switch is getting momentum in sales /v/ thinks 3rd party should once again deal with Nintendo?

>>375868501
Animal Crossing, would be a system seller on par with Mario Kart

NES Classic was a novelty item to make a quick profit on surplus hardware and keep the brand in the public eye over a quiet Christmas. Japanese companies do products like this all the time
Amiibo are deliberately produced to always sell out. Toys like this bleed money if they collect dust on a shelf, look at what happened to Disney Infinity.

>>375865331
The artificial scarcity conspiracy was destroyed the instant Nintendo admitted to blowing money on air freight. There is no business case where you pay more money to ship products faster when you're trying to constrain supply.

>>375868474
>Why anyone thinks AAA multiplats will magically boost sales is beyond me

they can't see beyond themselves. they buy consoles for CoD and assassins creed and whatever the fuck ea makes these days. if a console doesn't have the things that appeals to them personally, then it must not appeal to anybody.

>>375868060
Also how every indie game is automatically not a game and also shovelware.

>>375868474
>Why anyone thinks AAA multiplats will magically boost sales is beyond me
works well for other consoles

>>375868115
Switch dev kits are really cheap, but Nintendo seems to be more selective about who can get one than they were with the Wii U. I guess they noticed the amount of garbage on the Wii U eShop.

>The system that came out a month ago is outselling the system that has been out for 2 years
Golly

>>375868672
>on par with Mario Kart
lol, maybe 3D Mario but not MK.

>>375868501
>What are you hoping to see this June?
Games from at least 50-60% of the developers they listed they were working with at the initial presentation, whatever state of development they are in.

And whatever the FromSoft game is, be it a port or not, if they don't actually bring anything to it I can and will wait for more interesting things.

As much as I enjoy the games I do have for my Wii U, you might be ablle to tell I feel pretty badly burnt by it.

>>375868474
Tell that to the PS4. Of their top 12 selling games. 11 are multiplate and can be summed as

>Call of Duty
>EA Call of Duty
>FIFA

Sony has nothing of their own merit to stand on and is surviving solely on Activision and EA. If those bubbles burst, Sony is fucked.

>>375862949
>vita still selling
Keep the weeb games coming Japan

>>375868816
I guarantee most of the people that say the Switch needs that shit to sell well wouldn't even buy those games for it, they'd still just play them on the platform they already have.

The problem is the state of the industry and the fact that most of these larger publishers don't want to take any risks with games. They stick to their safe Hollywood AAA blockbusters and that's all they can sustain themselves on now, even if a smaller niche game on a modest budget sold well it wouldn't bring in the money they need to keep making their AAA movie-games, so they won't bother.

>>375869072
Animal Crossing titles easily pass the 10 million mark.

>>375869035
The systems. All of them, together.

>>375862949
So did the wiiu at the start of its generation.

>>375864604
>releasing a game on VITA, which is an inferior Switch in terms of hardware, and is losing sales to the Switch
>not wanting to establish an install base on the currently fastest selling games device in Japan
That game deserves to be a flop. Who the fuck would stick with the VITA when Japan clearly prefers the Switch over it? Releasing it on the PS4 is good, but it's time to let the VITA die as the Switch stomps it in specs.

>Jap release: PS4 and Switch
>English: PS4, Switch, PC
This is the only way to sell your games, Japan. I want the Japanese game devs to survi e, so stop with the stupid decisions.

>>375862949
what did numbers look like right before the switch came out?

>>375868875
nintendo can't afford to the cost of selling the hardware capable of running those games at a loss.

and if they could, it would be a cataclysmicly stupid risk to eat that much shit just to put out a box that plays cawadoody when there are 3 other systems people can already play it on.

>>375869035
Well it's also tracking better than the other systems did at the time.

>>375868719
It was also destroyed by never having any merit in the first place, I would say.

To me the air freight is as much a publicity stunt as anything, and people calling "artificial scarcity" will yell at you that this piece of news is EXACTLY the kind of message that makes people think there aren't many Switch'es available, as to trigger impulse buys.

These people can't seem to decide among themselves whether Nintendo are just employing a smokescreen to make people think there aren't many systems, but really they are right there on the shelves when they go to buy one, or whether they really truly in all seriousness withhold an amount of systems to generate buzz. Systems that they can then magically make appear on the exact moment they measure the buzz to be at its highest.

It's all pretty funny, really.

>>375869072
mate look at the numbers AC pulled on the Wii and 3DS. It won't beat it ofc but it's one of Nintendo's cash cows.

Yeah, I await to see what Nintendo has now that they don't have Link's dick to lean on anymore. It will probably be nothing.

>>375869157
I'm not denying it's a system seller just that Mario Kart is even more insane, hence the 3D Mario comparison.

>>375864604
>Phoenix Wright but edgy
No thanks

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>>375866765
Fact:
Botw and mk8d scored very, very high review scores
Opinion:
It's clearly a 7-8 at best

>>375869103
I felt pretty good about my Wii U, but that's besides the point today.

I hear you that you want them to follow up on just plotting a bunch of logos on a screen.

Not sure they will announce something for 50% of them, but there will most likely be stuff there.

Or at least I hope so too. Surprises are always what I watch E3 for.

>>375869129
Strongly disagree. For core gamers the strength of their exclusives matters.

The more core gamers the console attracts, the more popular the normies and casuals see it become which brings them in, along with the multiplat AAA garbage that they play.

>>375869129
Nintendo is suck at europe market. Fifa will never sold on switch very well

>>375869481
Core gamers are a tiny audience now.

>>375869503
We'll see. It's a """"""""SPECiAL""""""" version coming to Switch after all.

But honestly, I think the thing about Switch having two-player out of the box might actually help sell games like FIFA.

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>>375864604
>tfw switch wont be plagued by weebshit
>jap devs will keep beating the dead horse of vita
>only based nips will be putting quality titles on the switch

>>375869270
You do realize that Zelda isn't as big in Japan as it is in the US, right? The big seller is Splatoon 2. The Japs buy it because they see it as a strong handheld. Japan has a big commuter culture, which is why they like handhelds so much.

Japan also lacks the hype culture that is present in the US. They actually do research. This is why the PS4 had a slow start there, and it explains why they don't buy rereleases. Furthermore, Switch hitting 70k+ after its first month is not common among sales of consoles in Japan.

>>375869196
Very very sorry, Persona 5 already sold 3 times than SMT4

>>375869426
where did he say it was a fact, anon? he's clearly stating his opinion.

>>375869503
I'm interested in seeing if the portability plus two controllers will help Fifa sell on Switch, but it might be hard if they don't make a bundle with it.

>>375869557
Not as tiny as you obviously think, it's just that the casual market has grown at an uneven rate.

>>375869842
He acted like his opinion mattered

>>375869841
Persona 5 isn't on the Vita, so I don't see what point you're trying to make. It was also released across two platforms that have much larger player bases than the Vita.

SMTIV is a 3DS only game. If anything, you've proved my point as the multiplat outsold the exclusive.

>>375864863
Kek

>>375869971
That's why core games sell so well.

What actually sells is bundles with whatever recently hugely marketed game.

>>375869481
If you're talking about people who care about exclusives. That boils down to Nintendo games these days. Sony managed to sucker people with Trump tier trickery when Microsoft shit the bed with the Xbone at E3. (They originally planned to do all the same shit Microsoft was doing with their system [no used games, always needed to be online] but when they saw the outcry that immediately switched gears to say weren't and were praised as 'heroes') Nevermind they put in the fine print of their videos that you had to pay for online and didn't have the balls to be upfront about it like Microsoft and Nintendo. Or they didn't annouce any games outside of shit they already annouced last year and were porting it.

It still blows my mind that people consider that a top moment of E3 when it was nothing but smoke and mirrors and a giant 'We're keeping the status quo, cheer for us!'

>>375864687
THQ Nordic seems adamant about the games fitting well with the Nintendo audience, so I'd be surprised if it wasn't announced for Switch.

>>375862949
Why do they hate Xbox so much?

>>375864352
>nintendo sells more consoles a week than all others combined
>artificial scarcity

>>375868875
Because different people buy those consoles. Its a matter of demographics, of target audience, not hardware.

>>375869221
Sony and MS can't either, PS4 and Xbone don't sell at a loss, lack features PS3 and 360 had and both have paid online.

>>375869971
It's shrinking now, AAA shit is selling fewer copies and console sales are generally down. Hopefully they're finally starting to get bored.

>>375863906

Is the Switch a console or a handheld? Please decide for once nintenbros.

>>375862949
>Xbox One S – 169
>Wii U – 184
>Switching them around even though One S sold more
Sexgenie pls

>>375870359
cause its a gaijin console

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>>375870057
>most of player bought P5 on PS4
>PS4 shipped 60m units so far
>3DS shipped 66m units so far
>b-because bigger install base!

>>375869841
Didn't P5 ship 1.5m? SMT IV was at 600k two years ago.

>>375868093
Posts like these remind me the average person on /v/ is 14 years

>>375868672
It would certainly buy them a bigger foot in the door with the female audience.

But I think they'd want to wait with it until they know systems are available and priced in a way as to be inclusive to this demographic.

Here goes the crossed fingers anyway, though.

>>375862949

Is the Switch the Trump of video games? The Switch just keeps winning, bros.

>>375870653
Yeah but more ps4 players will buy smt than 3ds

>>375870775
No please. Try to explain it.

If you can't, it's also okay.

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>>375864604
>generic anime shovelware

So fucking ironic how Sonyfags act like shovelware is acceptable because it's Sony.

>>375870829
It's the Charlie Sheen of video games.

>>375870829
Nintendo wins on merit, Trump is a lot more like Sony. Played consumers for suckers while and dragging down the quality of gaming and when it's finally dethroned, it'll try to crash the whole system.

Also the most obnoxious and fanatical fanbase.

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>>375864352

Shouldn't you go back to another thread where you scream up and down that the Switch is going to fail?

>>375870829
>Hated by the gaming "media"
>Nintendo fans are vilified in society
>Everyone left them for dead

Yes.

>>375865398
Videogames are a hobby cattered to kids bro.
Yeah, even those spesh muhreens games are cattered towards them.

>>375870916
Are you retarded, Mexican or a nigger? How can you possibly believe Nintendo couldn't manufacture more than the absolutely tiny amount of their low quality shitty amibos?

>>375871041
>Nintendo wins on merit
I didn't know selling on brand name was considered merit. Guess Apple actually makes the best phones.

>>375871223
That's not what we are talking about.

We are talking about how it would possibly benefit them to manufacture thet few as a marketing stunt, instead of the actual reason for why they made so few of certain amiibo.

>>375864352
They were flying in more switch units to try to keep up with demand in March.

>>375870243
Imagine how different this generation would've been if their presentation times were reversed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
That shit was obviously filmed last second.

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>>375870501
it is both, sonyegro.

>>375871438
probably not at all. the consoles are practically indistinguishable, especially to normies. they bought a ps4 because they needed a fifabox and it was $100 cheaper than the bone

>>375871305
Selling good games matter. Want to list off all the first party sony games that have aged gracefully and could still be playable today?

>>375864604
I wonder if it'll follow their fashion of simultaneous Steam releases for the West.

>>375870916
>please explain it
I'm not your teacher. Ask your teacher. Pay attention in class or read a book on it. I can't help you're stupid. You can at least help yourself. And no, I wasn't that other person that responded to you. I'm the initial replier you responded to.

>>375871975
Alright, so you either can't or won't explain it.

That's fine. But then please don't bring it up around here.

>>375872114
>please spoonfeed me
No.
>then please don't bring it up
I can't help you are underage. I can't help you can't follow a conversation. I can't help you're stupid. These are all things YOU are to blame for. And only YOU can actively change.

>>375871438
Sony would have been crucified but Microsoft would have been to tone death to change anything. Third party would still refuse to support Nintendo.

Also the best part is how the fine print in the video it just quietly announces Sony moving to paid online.

It's not even the best 'let's do this with 5 minutes notice' video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx38Q2nEJBk

>>375865935
>Wii games are still selling well
What the shit

>>375872293
So you aren't actually bringing anything to the table?

>>375862949
>Japanese numbers
Nobody here lives in japan

>>375872647
I'm telling you to don't claim others aren't allowed to talk on a level beyond your understanding.

>>375872750
Well I'm not, so ok.

>>375871738

So, you dont know of any good ps games because you are a ninten drone that only plays whatever poop comes out your master's ass?

>>375872856
>But then please don't bring it up around
Why is it always the stupid shits like you that want the world to bend to their needs? Fucking A.

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>>375862949

>No Disney Afternoon Collection
>no MvCi
>no RE7
>no Darksiders 3


Kek

>>375870006

Do you think reviews matter equally when games that aren't on any Nintendo consule (Last of Us, Witcher 3) do well?

>>375872868
Oh great master of Sony, do bless us with a list of first party Sony games that weren't run into the ground to age like milk instead of fine wine.

>>375872958

I was asked to explain it.
>>375867934

But then the guy wouldn't himself.

Don't bring up his case if you don't want to bring up his case. That's all I'm saying.

>>375868209

>ninten drones have been playing the same games for over 20 years

>s-sony is so cheap and unoriginal

>>375863780
>PS3 is outselling the Wii U and Xbox one

>>375862949

>Why cant we all just get along

Good question, Anon, why can't we just have fun?

Why arguing?

>>375865963

jim sterling dying of a heart attack when?

>>375864352
Well if you read the OP you'd realize that OP is making a connection between consistent sales and switches potential 3rd party support

>>375873253
Its at least a cheap blu-ray player and Netflix box, and there's a lot of games for it

>>375873086

If you think Nintendo games don't age that's maybe because they make very little improvements from console to console.

>>375873504
I accept your surrender.

>>375873326
Notice how most console war threads are started by Nintendo cucks. They won't be ever be happy because Sony has been winning since PS1.

>>375867741
it keeps the brand name more valuable dumbfuck. people think nintendo, they think hard to acquire gadget. perfect christmas gift. bla bla. It's literally Christmas Elmo 1997 you underaged twat.

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>>375869196
The Danganronpa creator's fiercely loyal to the Vita. They aren't just going to jump ship to the Switch at the drop of a hat.

>>375870501
I really wish I fucking knew because that's going to decide the fate of the 3DS going forward.

The Switch is too weak to get third party support.

>>375873640
>keep insulting people
>keep not making sense

If it's understocked on purpose, how is it selling record numbers?

>>375873712

Why did they made a meme dock that scratch the screen instead of simply using cables like the psp did?

>>375867934
>NES Mini and the Amiibos

Stores in europe have a SHIT TON ot then. and i mean STORES AND STORES FULL of then

>>375873830
A variety of reasons all of which you will dismiss as stupid, but nontheless are the reasons they did it because they actually did have reasons, whether stupid or not.

>>375873150
>I was asked to explain it.
Wrong reply?

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Meh, don't care about sales in Japan. Come back when you weebs learn about the rest of the world.

>>375873929
>SHIT TON of NES mini in Europe

where?

>>375874045
No.

>>375874063
Other countries don't have someone giving sales data out for free on a weekly basis. Most sales data from other countries comes from the manufacturer or are just guesses and bad estimations.

>>375865331
Real talk idiot, were you not here for any of the products they've released in the last three years? The first few waves of Amiibos? the Gamecube adapter? Hell, a number of their first party games, too.

>>375862949
Why do nint.oddlers care about 3rd party? I thought the only thing that mattered in the whole world were exclusives? Stop changing the narrative every hour /r/NintendoSwitch

>>375874063
>VGChartz numbers
>juxtaposed with the word "learn"

That's kinda funny

>>375865807
>If they sell all the stock they are producing, how are they creating artificial scarcity?

Don't be such an idiot. Nintendo could EASILY produce anything to meet the demand. They CHOOSE not to. Only reason Switch, or NES Mini, or those gay Amiibos, or anything at all that Nintendo produces is sold out is because Nintendo deliberately underships product.

You're so fucking gullible if you think that means anything.

>>375874438
Wrong. They can't afford to lose money on a surplus of consoles or sell them at a loss ala PS4.

>>375874265
I was here.

And I don't understand what you are talking about.

What the fuck is "artificial scarcity" supposed to mean, and how it is supposed to be some form of powerful but somehow despicable marketing tactic?

It doesn't make any fucking sense.

Explain the mechanics of it if you can. Because I don't think you can. How does more money come out by making less product available?

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>>375865331
Literally Cartmanland

>>375873994

The only reason I can think of is because they want to trick people into thinking the dock give the handheld performance a boost, but it is pretty easy to trick Ninten drones into buying anything. The only reason they didn't bought a Wii U is because they didn't realized it was a new console.

>>375874438
You're not making any sense.

If they knew they could sell more, why would htey not do it?

How are they making more money by selling less?

>>375874616
I'm going to need the rundown of that.

>>375873652
Yoko Taro and Platinum originally wanted to port Nier to the Vita before Squeenix cockblocked them

>>375870501
>it can't be both

And it's going to replace 3DS. Which is fine

>>375874598
He could but you wouldn't understand

>>375874083
stores?

>>375874659
>The only reason I can think of is because they want to trick people into thinking the dock give the handheld performance a boost,

They you aren't very smart. Here are some likely reasons.

- Deliberately cover up the screen to make it clear that both won't be active at the same time.

- Make it handy to place and pick up the system, and to attach/detach the joycon

- prevent casuals from needing to fiddle with small cables when they want to charge and connect to the tv. Two cables are too much for idiots.

But yes, as I said, I fully expect you to dismiss all of these because they don't apply to your needs.

>>375874730

I don't think they are. I think their strategy is bad. It is, nevertheless, what they're doing. Creating artificial hype by underproducing.

It's a simple fact that they're one of the biggest video game companies and thus could very, very easily meet ANY possible demand for their product if they wanted to. They could build and ship Switches ten times faster if they wanted to. For some reason they choose to instead produce just slightly under the estimated demand, and the only possible reason I can see is a marketing strategy based around creating hype through reports of shortage. Not like there's any other reward anyone would get out of it.

>>375875079
Well we won't know, because in all the threads on /v/ so far talking about this thing I haven't seen anyone explaining it.

It's TimeCube levels of stupid at this point.

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>>375874063
>77,071 + 91,947 + 35,271 = 204,289

>99,766 + 59,581 + 62,324 = 221,671

>>375874836
Cartman inherits a shit ton of money. Uses it to buy a bankrupt theme park with the intention of havig all the rides and such to himself. He uses the leftover money to run TV ads about his park and how no one but himself is allowed inside to make his friends jealous. Naturally everyone who sees the ads wants in.

Cartman eventually has to hire staff in order to maintain the park so he has to let people in so he can pay the staff with more people being allowed in each day for every new staff member he has to hire. When the town hears he is going to open the park to a limited number of guests they all start lining up

By the end of the episode the park is filled with record numbers of people

>>375874836
cartman bought an amusement park and then wouldn't let anyone in because he was a dick that wanted it all to himself

i dont get what it has to do with the artificial scarcity conspiracy theory

>>375862949
>>S-SWITCH WON'T GET THIRD PARTY SUPPOR-

Tell me how it is getting Overwatch, Destiny 2, Battlefront 2, CoD WWII and RDR 2.

Oh wait, you cant.

>>375875321
There are more regions ouside of NA, EU and JPN you know?

Global also adds the sales on the rest of Asia, Africa, Oceania and Latin America.

>>375875286

>It is, nevertheless, what they're doing.

>Creating artificial hype by underproducing.

Proof?

>They could build and ship Switches ten times faster if they wanted to.

Proof?

>For some reason they choose to instead produce just slightly under the estimated demand

So that they won't suffer any losses from unsold merchandise. It's traditional conservative business.

>and the only possible reason I can see is a marketing strategy based around creating hype through reports of shortage.

What would they actually gain from people being unsatisfied with not getting what they would like to have?

Let's be real here. Does Nintendo really need third party support? Their IPs alone are more than worth it.

>>375875142
Which ones?

>>375874659
Even your logic is retarded.
the only people who bought a Wii U were "nintenbros" because they were the only ones who pay attention enough to be aware of it.

>>375875563
they why dont they put a fucking EXTRAS with all those numbers there?

>>375875647
>Wii U
Yes.

>>375875358
Well that's nice.

Like the king's potatoes.

>>375875381
Likewise.

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>>375875667
the gaming and toys ones?

>>375875816
I was asking about the NES mini.

>>375875647
>Does Nintendo really need third party support? Their IPs alone are more than worth it.

They are not.

Lack of 3rd party support (like GTA) is what killed the WiiU.

Normies like normie games, and you dont have normie games on your console then you wont attract normies and will only sell to your fanbase ( the 13m-15m that bought a WiiU and will buy a Switch).

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>>375862949
>nervous japanese man repeatedly says there are more switch games that should boost switch sales after respectable switch launch sales


wait so which part is the lie

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Didnt Nintendo announce that games were coming to the Switch at launch? What happened to that?

>>375875694
Just do NA + EU + JP - Global moron.

>>375875945
Every day there's a new story about what killed the Wii U.

>>375864604
>sony bought games wont be on other consoles
Gee, that's a fucking shock! Who would have ever seen that coming!

Fucking retard

>>375875945
>Lack of 3rd party support (like GTA) is what killed the WiiU.
No.

The demographics that buy those games don't want them on Nintendo platforms. That's all there is to it.

N64 and GC had better hardware than Sony's platforms and it meant fuck-all. Wii U had tons of third-party games at launch and no one bought them, they bought them on the other platforms instead.

Third parties need to make more than ports of games everyone can play on something they already have, and they won't do that because they're too afraid to take any risks with games given how bloated AAA development is.

>>375876057
WiiU died because it didnt get enough games.

It didnt get enough games because its install base wanst big enough to warrant developing for it.

Its installbase wasnt big enough because it didnt attract normies.

It didnt attract normies because it didnt have the key multiplat titles the normies want to play.

Guess which other console will lack those titles? Yes, the Switch.

>>375875579
>Proof?

They're fucking Nintendo. That is the proof. Are you telling me the fucking Nintendo couldn't ship enough of those fucking things to fill all the shelves in every shop in the world if they wanted to? Really? This isn't some small Kickstarter company with twenty employees, this is one of the biggest operators in the business. They could EASILY meet ANY demand. The fact that they don't is proof enough that something shady is going on.

>What would they actually gain from people being unsatisfied with not getting what they would like to have?

Already explained right in the sentence you quoted. It's a marketing strategy. A foolish one, I'd add.

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>>375876017
>nervous japanese man repeatedly says there are more switch games that should boost switch sales after respectable switch launch sales after announcing they have no plans for E3 after launching another 3DS iteration.

hmm...

>>375869239
Whatever it is, it CERTAINLY can't be that demand is real and Nintendo only has a certain amount of manufacturing facilities, churning them out as quickly as they can

>>375876265
>It didnt get enough games because its install base wanst big enough to warrant developing for it.
>Its installbase wasnt big enough because it didnt attract normies.
Wrong. It had a larger install base than Xbone for some time, but no games.

The audience AAA developers are targeting don't buy games on Nintendo's platforms. Better hardware won't magically make8 million people buy Call of Duty for Switch, it's just not happening. Third parties need to make more than photo-realistic blockbusters that cost $50m to produce and $100m to market, development is too bloated and everyone is risk-averse and doesn't want to make anything that's not safe and guaranteed to sell millions of copies.

The Wii U sold poorly because Nintendo didn't have enough of their own games, botched the launch and marketing entirely and overestimated how attractive the tablet controller would be, which drove the price of the console up. Unlike the Wii, it didn't really offer anything new or exciting and lacked Nintendo's own games for too long. It had Call of Duty, it had AssCreed, it had Batman, and it had them when the games launched and it didn't make a difference.

>>375876036
>just do their job for then

>>375876198
>The demographics that buy those games don't want them on Nintendo platforms.

The demographic that buys those games (Overwatch, Destiny 2, Battlefront 2, CoD WWII and RDR 2) is literally kids that are 10 and up.

That leaves the target demo of nintendo with kids 6-9 years old, little girls and manchilds that hold on to their childhoods by playing games aimed at little kids.

That a poor target demo for the industry when the majority of the consumer base are the ones that will want those multiplats.

Without those games the Switch will fail (will sell around the same ammount as the WiiU), and there is nothing Nintendo can do because the console has outdated hardware and its too much of a hassle to port those games to sell poorly because the people that will buy the WiiU 2 aren really interested on those games.

>>375864604
Poor man's Phoenix Wright.

>>375876726
Its simple math, you can do it mentally by looking at the chart for 2 seconds.
Geez, you must be american.

>>375876270

So you don't have proof. All those thing you're saying are bananas. Nintendo can't magically make machines appear. They have to be assembled and shipped.

And you seem unable to reason for why anyone would want to NOT have as much merchandise available as they can sell. Aside from "it's a marketing tactic" which you also can't reason for.

I think it's much more likely that this whole thing is made up.

Nintendo makes conservative estimates on how much they can sell of something, and produces that amount. Should a product prove more popular, they try to catch up, but as anyone working in physical goods will tell you, you simply can't just up production x10 from one day to the other.

Car companies such as Studebaker have had to close because they couldn't keep up with sudden large demand for a product that was more popular than anticipated. It's not an uncommon thing for companies to "not be ready for success."

Nintendo has nothing to gain from not having a Switch unit available to a person that wants to buy it.

Ask yourself whether you personally feel more compelled to buying a Switch when you hear about it being in short supply. Or whether you just get angry at Nintendo for making too few.

>>375876827
>just let your mind do their job for then

>>375862949
Anon, you know the last time they talked about unannounced titles it was that shitty pikmin platformer nobody cared about, right?

>>375865603
Say it with me boys: Winter is Coming

>>375867834
Those are some weakass power levels.
Freeza is like 500k or so.

>>375867419
>the reason "PS4 has no games!!!" became a thing was because you faggots wouldn't count games on PS3/Vita,
That's because they were the exact same games dingus. MK8D alone doesn't fit that definition because of the new content it adds as well as the fixes to the game.

>>375876558
No, that assumption would be ludicrous.

So would assuming that Nintendo are speaking the truth when they state that they're starting up more production lines this year, but that it will tkae a while, and will we all please be patient.

Why don't they just open those five hundred warehouses full of Switch units that we all know they have.

>>375873238
>Playing quality games that aged line wine
>Playing poorly made 'games' that age like sour milk
Ha ha ha.

>>375876745
>is literally kids that are 10 and up.
Yeah, no, its primarily adults

>>375868361
well, it's a hybrid

so it will be a failure unless it does Wii AND 3DS numbers combined

>>375875149

If you need a dock to place your handheld then you are a retard and you are the reason handholding exist in video games.

If the switch manages to sell scaled down AAA games, it will have scaled down AAA games.
Shareholders > studios.

>>375867681
Yeah the small ones that produce subpar VNs. Everyone else went to the 3DS.

>>375865603
>The salt over BotW and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is enough to sustain me until pic related scores 99 and destroys this board.


>A new feature of the game is Mario's ability to throw his cap, which he can use like a spring, allowing him to reach higher ledges or cross long gaps.

LOL

No way it gets 99 with that gameplay mechanic.

>>375877390
Well I don't disagree.

They said the game cube was going to have a lot of third party games. They said the wii was going to have a lot of third party games. They said the wii u was going to have a lot of third party games. The only one that had more than ~10 third party games was the wii. All those were shovel ware.

>>375868148
Because those systems were bombarded with low quality and barely responsive games actually deserving of the title shovelware?

>>375875684

Enjoy your 300 $ underpowered tablet.

>>375876309
>no plans for e3
Nintendo hasnt done e3 events the last few years, as in the live stage events that everyone else does. They do digital events instead, which is fine and the same thing anyway, terms of, 'hey, here's the new shit that coming soon tm'

What would /v/ look like if mods aggressively banned console war shitposting?

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stop selling so many switches it's been two months and i still can't get one for retail price

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>>375877121
thats not even their final form

>>375877495
The game is unlikely to get much of its score based on Mario's hat at all.

It always comes down to level design and the pacing of obstacle introduction with Mario.

>>375877570
You need a $600 tablet to even get close to the switch GPU power, and you will find no games that can actually use the full power of it, due a combination of shitty software and shitty video APIs.

>>375877570
>le tablet meme

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This game will save the Switch

>>375877768
I was talking about freeza's first form, not the buff, copyright violation or that thing chichi stores on the bedroom's closet form.

>>375877852
NVidia Shield TV has a non-gimped version of the TegraX1 and it costs $180.

>>375877972
or the copyright infringement form

>>375877965
Game looks great but SE will likely manage to fuck it up somehow.

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>>375878060
It is also not a tablet.

>>375877545
The only one that didn't have a lot of third party support wad the Wii U because the initial wave of games had mediocre support and are still missing content present in the ps360 versions so no one bought the games and the devs dropped out.
The Wii had a fuck ton of "support" from them but for the most part it was shovelware with barely anything of worth that didn't come from nintendo themselves.
The GC had adequate support for the majority of its life.

>>375876198
>The demographics that buy those games don't want them on Nintendo platforms. That's all there is to it.

That's because Nintendo refuses to keep up specs wise and has poor online. Make a PS4 slap a nintendo label on it and release 2 mario games and 2 zelda games. Sony would die over night. However nintendo is too in love with gimmicks.

>>375864352
>Why would I care about how many units the Switch sells?
So that the system receives games? Don't you like video games?

>>375867817
>but 3DS series were literally shovelware
You have no idea what makes a game shovelware do you.

>>375878471
>and has poor online

We don't REALLY know what online will be like on Switch yet.

Here's hoping WWII really is announced for it, as that will be a powerful indicator. If they fuck that up, they can't be trusted with anything else.

>>375876198
>The demographics that buy those games don't want them on Nintendo platforms.
Of course they do. Do you honestly think they care about what system it's on as long as they can shoot people in the head?
There's a reason why they buy this third party shovelware time and time again, because they don't give a shit. Anyway its literally which company gets the games out first and people will flock to it.