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JRPG's on the Switch

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Square seems to really trying to make this console their primary platform, at least for low to mid budget titles. With how easy this console is to develop for or port shit to, is it possible for the Switch to eventually draw the Vita crowd with tons of anime and japanese indie RPG's.
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If you mean just JRPGs in general then yeah, you'll see a bit since it's outselling everything combined in Japan lately. Probably not the hentai looking crap on the Vita, but that's not a bad thing.
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>>375854423
I want this on the Switch in the west
what are the odds? 0.0001%?
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>>375854912
>not the hentai looking crap on the Vita
dropped
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>>375855171
If it has language options, you could just import it.
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>>375855317
it doesn't, I don't think the third game was ever translated to English to begin with
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>>375855445
I thought a translation was done, the project was just canceled before shipped.
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>>375854912
I think the reason Square's CEO is so gung-ho about the Switch is because it's finally a platform that is easy to make shit for and where they are more likely to turn a profit. With a lot of Square's in-house games on Sony platforms, these titles probably don't make as much profit. When something FFXV comes out, Square is not as much hoping that the thing makes profit as they are hoping that it will at least be able to break even first cause big Triple A titles may sell a lot, but the amount for development, production and marketing stacks up. Square probably made more money relative to development/production costs off shit like Bravely Default and Second on the 3DS, or at least I wouldn't be surprised if they did. Square is probably seeing yen signs with the Switch because here's a platform where they can put a game on it for a low cost and still likely be able to make a profit no matter how little it sold.

If that is the case, there are probably other Japanese development studios who see the same potential in the Switch and they don't necessarily even have to abandon the Sony platforms.
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>tfw I'm the ONLY one who played this
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>>375855547
Gonna need a source on that
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>>375855547
>>375855667
Yeah I never heard of this either and my weak Googling skills don't show anything.
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Soon
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>>375855829
The tree texture looks fucking great
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i'm ok with square enix developing for the switch. means we won't have to wait 6 years for a game.
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>>375855829
I honestly don't like the art style.
Still waiting on a try successor to Xenogears/saga. (I know it'll never happen at this point.)
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>>375856045
>Not liking the art style
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>>375855656
Why did Square block all those 3DS Dragon Quest games though?
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>>375855547
>>375855667
>>375855824


According to
>Tvtropes
Making a translation and cleaning the 3rd game up would have taken up too much time (because the 3rd game is a buggy mess) and would have pushed the release well after N64 and PS1 released.

Not the best source, but it probably makes sense. I recently played through the game and finally finished it for the first time and my god it is buggy. Still fun, but buggy.

Kevin is best and is broken as fuck.
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>>375854912
>Probably not the hentai looking crap on the Vita,
Fuck you man, I've still got hope.
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>>375856045
I like the art style, but I'd rather they have kept the art style from the original Xenoblade. I really loved that style and I'd like to see consistency.
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>>375856314
That's not the same as >translation already done and canceling.
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anybody play Sword of Mana?? Damn I loved that as a kid, never got around to Secret. gonna give it a show
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>>375854423
>Square seems to really trying to make this console their primary platform
With a port that runs worse than the Vita one, a literal rom bundle pack and one original game?
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>>375856276
Because they know that shit is not gonna sell that much over here and they were right. Nintendo went ahead and published it, advertised it anyways because a few rabid people made it look like there was a thirst for DQ in the West.
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>>375856504
I played it. Honestly it ticked me off a little after I realized how much content I've missed after beating it. Some of that shit was Tales level of backtracking. Earth magic was pretty OP.
Secret isn't that great and the only thing that still holds up is the music. Play Evermore instead.
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>>375854423
>is it possible for the Switch to eventually draw the Vita crowd with tons of anime and japanese indie RPG's
Definitely. Switch will be the primary platform in Japan. Sony fucked up with the Vita so it's all Nintendo from now on.
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>>375856669
There's still four other 3DS DQ games that never got localized.
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I hope sega takes a page from SE's book and re-releases some games on switch. would love to see PSO on there.
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>>375856276
It might be a certain assumption that Dragon Quest games don't sell well in the West. Many times Japanese development companies will calculate how much they are likely to make by exporting a game relative to the amount of money they need to put into production, distribution, localization and marketing. The Switch is probably cheaper and easier to put a game on than the 3DS though, so that might change if they are given reason to believe that Americans actually want more Dragon Quest. But Square Enix Japan probably gets its information about the American market from Square Enix America. If SEA got a flood of letters asking for Dragon Quest, they might press the Japanese headquarters more for it.

I'm still waiting on SEGA to release an officially localized Sakura Wars Collection here, but good luck convincing Sega of America to tell Sega of Japan that Sega fanboys want dating sim RPG's.
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>>375854423
Square enix aren't the ones carrying the JRPG market anymore. They still do some things, sure, but to take the vita spot, look the way of Atlus, gust, or even namco bandai
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>>375856749
>shitposting about a three year old game
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>>375856496
Yeah that's true. I can't find anything about that either. Just stuff about the technical problems. No confirmation on translation being done or not.
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>>375856934
>first comes the ports
>then comes the multiplats
>then comes the exclusives
Feel free to move the goalposts when it happens ;)
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>>375856906
How well did this one do?
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>>375856909
>Square enix aren't the ones carrying the JRPG market anymore.
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>>375855661
Bitch, I used to rent Secret of Mana when I was a lad who had no idea where the hell I was supposed to go or what to do, I just loved exploring and listening to the god-tier ost.

Then some faggot stole the copy from my local rental store, and I never got around to it again until I found a boxed copy for $30 on ebay many years ago.

Even if the Switch JP version has no english language option, I absolutely intend to import that shit, just to show my support.
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It's really refreshing to see how enthusiastic Square Enix and other Japanese devs seem to be about Switch, but I think that saying that they're trying to make it their primary platform is pretty ridiculous. I think we will see some legitimate competition between PS and Switch which is refreshing and should help drive the market forward instead of stagnating like it has been
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>>375856906
>Dragon Quest doesn't sell in the West so we won't publish the six 3DS games
>BUT HERE'S DRAGON QUEST HEROES AND DRAGON QUEST BUILDERS WITH NO BEGGING REQUIRED
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>Dragonquest XI
>PS4 definitive edition, 3DS edition
>Switch edition : errr... TBD?

More likely canceled.

DESU I don't have a problem with Switch getting Japanese/JRPG support, the Switch's concept is fine but it's execution fucking sucks. It looks like a gigantic tablet toy thing, it's ugly, unergonomic and un handheld-like, it's a pseudo console and it looks like a piece or garbage to use and play games on. Long live the 3DS and Vita, there is no need to introduce new hardware into the mix especially when it doesn't improve anything and has more faults then you can count. I don't understand what the slant eyed gooks see in this piece of shit but 3DS/Vita/PS4 is all anybody needs, there's no reason to try and squeeze such a retarded machine like the Switch in there, there's no place or need for this stupid ass pseudo console grotqueseabimination of a attempted firsh and price wannabe mobile tablet console handheld detachable dildo controller gimmick device.
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>>375855661
That fucking tiger was such a bullshit boss.
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>>375857390
You're literally wrong in every single thing you say. I can tell you never held much less owned one.
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>>375857127
The early 2000's called, they want you back by monday.
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>>375857471
I want the early 2000s back.
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>>375857390
Agreed. We need to consolidate the installbase of Jrpgs on two already established platforms, there was no reason for the Switch to exist other than for Nintendo desperately trying to keep a presence in the console market while disguising it as a handheld.

If the Switch succeed's it'll be a wii tier console because that's what it is, a machine for Nintendo fans and casual gamers and publishers know they can milk them but long term customers are core gamers and they still need to create games for that demographic. Nobody here recalls or mentions any gams from the wii era despite it's success, for jrpgs they are best put on platforms that cater to core gamers and those platforms are already established as PC/PS4/3DS/VITA there is no room or need for Switch for JRPGS
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>>375857471
SE is still much more important in the JRPG realm than the ones that other faggot listed. I don't even touch shit from Bandai Namco anymore.Even Atlus is a bit of a meme now. The amount of dicksucking vs the actual worthwhile content they've put out the last gen just shows how far these games have fallen.
>big anniversary
>"remake" a game you can already play from last gen

Not surprising considering how much shit they've been re-releasing with all the effort to get P5 out, at last.
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>>375854423
Switch is cementing itself as Vita Japan Redux so it makes sense that the Japs are gaining an interest towards it.
Rev up for dem VNs boiz.
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>>375857901
Atlus hasn't actually shown footage of the SJ remake, right?
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I can't fucking wait for Monster Hunter on the Switch
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>>375857236
>It's really refreshing to see how enthusiastic Square Enix and other Japanese devs seem to be about Switch
Who's enthusiastic about what?

Squenix ported a game that failed to break even despite being launched on god knows how many consoles now, one musou clone that currently runs worse than any other version, a romset and one new low budget IP.
Sega ported a multiplat.
NIS ported a PS4 game that bombed catastrophically.
KOEI is silent.
Arcsys put a fucking phone port of Othello on the damn thing while keeping on publishing stuff on the Vita of all things.
Bamco announced a new Tales game.
FROM apparently doesn't give a shit.
Capcom is cockteasing people.

And so on, devs are wary of the Switch, nobody is enthusiastic when the 3DS is still a better source of profit and the Switch might end up bombing like the Wii U, they're porting stuff to see if there's a market for them on the Switch.

Rest assured, the Switch will get DQ and a few other titles, but you people are really overestimating the thing when it's still just trying to establish itself in the market.
>>375857471
Wake up sonny, Squenix holds the current two biggest RPG franchises in Japan and a ton of other stuff for all kinds of people, all other companies are laughable in comparison when it comes to RPGs.
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>>375857390
You're right about everything but it being cancelled, I'd just expect it to be the least worth playing version of the four.
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>>375858339
>devs are wary of the Switch
No. Switch will be the primary platform because there's nothing else on the market and Japs love handhelds. It's that simple.
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>>375858339
I bet I Am Setsuna would have sold fairly well on Switch if they had bothered to release the physical version outside of Japan. Would have really taken advantage of the lack of games in stores like Bomberman did.
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>>375858485
>Sony just surrendered literally all of Japan to Nintendo by not making a vita successor

lel
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>>375858339
KOEI had a day one game in Japan.
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>>375857236
>It's really refreshing to see how enthusiastic Square Enix and other Japanese devs seem to be about Switch

Square has released jack shit for the Switch.

PS got : world of final fantasy, star ocean 5, kingdom hearts 2.8, ffxv, dragonquest builders and heros 1/2 pc edition and on the horizon it has, ff v r, ff 12 r, kingdom hearts 3, dragonquest xi and probably other shit I'm forgetting. Switch isn't even getting romancing saga remake or the adventure remake which was a mobile port

What games is square supporting the Switch with? Heck the 3DS currently has 10x more support from square than it
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>>375858693
>all those games that came out before the Switch was even here

you moron
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>>375855171
Odds might be up there by now. They can't keep remaking FF games. That's rather costly.

Translating and bundling a bunch of older games might be cheaper and feel more "vintage".
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>>375858693
Square Enix announced 6 different games for switch before it even came out you dumb shit
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>>375857242
Builders was great, I'm glad they brought it out
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>>375858763
Where are the ports then like disgaea? Or the countless other games the Switch has that was released on other platforms prior? Switch is going to be another first party machine, the playerbase for third party games are simply elsewhere. This is going to be a wii tier console in terms of support and game library but I personally doubt Nintendo will even manage to trick 10 million suckers into buying this.

The bottom line is there's no reason for this console to exist at the moment when every other console dose what it dose better and has more games, third party support and a playerbase who actually buys third party games.

Good luck Switch but I'm not counting on you or buying you until I see the vidiya. Long live 3DS and Vita.
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>>375859189
I wasn't saying it was bad. I'm just saying SE seems biased.
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>>375854423
I'm starting to really hate the high budget games that Square makes nowadays and being extremely pleased with the low-mid budget titles, what is with them lately?
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>>375859265
>long live 3ds and vita

L M A O
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>>375859285
High budgets has always made Square lose control of things.
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>>375858485
>Switch will be the primary platform because there's nothing else on the market
Except both the 3DS and Vita, and the true king of handheld gaming in japan, smartphones.
The Switch is riding on undiluted brand power as of now, what matters is whether it keeps the momentum or not, that's precisely why devs are just making ports, they're testing the waters right now.
>>375858504
Setsuna bombs on every platform it gets ported to because nobody likes it and nobody wants it, Bomberman got revived after more than a decade, you can't compare a cult franchise that exists since the NES days with a new IP that fucking nobody liked.
>>375858638
My bad, forgot about that, isn't that the Nobunaga no Yabou Vita game?
>>375859285
The mid/low budget titles are usually made by the most competent designers and teams they have, as weird as that may be.
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>>375855661
played through it multiple times, I'm going to play through this in 3 player mode.
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So, basically the Switch is a PlayStation Vita?

Ironic, considering how many people in this shitty board hated on Vita.
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>>375859817
Yeah, the Switch is a Vita with built in TV docking support and nintendo exclusives + monster hunter and without making you buy 150 dollar 16gb proprietary memory cards

Really penetrates my brain pussy
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>>375859265
>Long live 3DS and Vita.

These were pieces of shit. I'm honestly more excited for Switch than I ever was for those two. Glad it's demolishing them right now over there.
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>>375859274
Oh no doubt, I bought 7 when it came out on 3DS and besides Builders it was my first DQ
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>>375859694
>and the true king of handheld gaming in japan, smartphone
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>>375859901
Where is that monster hunter game?
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>>375859963
To be announced at E3, be patient little padawan
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>>375859694
It's a port of Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence that came out for PS3/PS4/PC in 2015.
They're also porting the new Nobunaga that's slated for PS4 and PC this year.
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>>375855656
Yeah this is why Square was so awesome in late 90s. Probably the peek in the "easy/cheap" rs "powerful" of game systems is ps1.

They made a lot of good-great games and a lot of money.

Then they wasted most of the money and games got way more expensive to make.....
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>>375860052
Uh huh
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>>375860075
Looking it up, it seems there was also a Vita version. Don't know which version the Switch version was based on though.
Also, it was 2013 for PS3/PS4/PC and 2015 for Vita.
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Switch – 74,217
PlayStation 4 – 19,565
New 3DS – 16,739
PlayStation Vita – 6,194
2DS – 4,863
PlayStation 4 Pro – 5,191
PlayStation 3 – 353
Xbox One S – 169
Wii U – 184

They'd be stupid not to put a bunch of games on it.
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>>375860324
Keep in mind that this is with them selling out as fast as they are being made

Who knows what the numbers would look like if they could actually meet the demand
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As a PS4, Vita, 3DS owner I hope the Switch does get some great JRPGs. I love my Vita but Sony has treated it like shit. Why the fuck are 64gb memory cards still 100 bucks on a dead console? They do some great digital sales for it but aside from swapping games on PC using content manager you have nowhere to put them. I don't have a Switch yet though because waiting on Amazon to restock. I'll be damned if I get one from those kikes at Gamestop or Best Buy.
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>>375855547
No, Squaresoft didn't see the point in releasing it that late in the SNES's life cycle due to the PS1 and Saturn being out so sales would not be up to their expectations.

Also despite how it makes an excellent scapegoat, Secret of Evermore had nothing to do with Mana 3 never being localized.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf58TiGtIe4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN5eMiST1i8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_XFuwO8UyU
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>>375860324
They haven't proven themselves too smart in the past though. Not saying these four were awful games.
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>>375854423
Are they bringing SaGa SG, RomaSaGa2, or RomaSaGa3 to the switch?

If not: wow it's fucking nothing.
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>>375859940
You have no idea of the amount of money that mobage make in Japan, it's incredible, and there's a lot of shit too.
As it is now, smartphones destroy any other handheld in game profits and sales.
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>>375860628
I have no idea why people keep playing those mobile games that basically act like slot machines for getting new/better characters.
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I would do unspeakable things for Secret of Evermore and Terranigma on the Switch

But they have to be good, not some botched ports that look nothing like they used to, I want it accurate.
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>>375856749
>Switch versions of Disgaea 5 and Fate/Extella includes all DLC

Fucking hell. I hope NISA and XSEED does some compensation for PS4 version owners by giving them the DLC for free on the PSN Store for a set time.
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>>375857242
I never played DQ Builders but I heard its fantastic though.
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i can't tell if nintenfan's are this delusional or if this is just a really good falseflag
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>>375860627
>Romancing SaGa 2 and 3 originally came out on the Super Famicom
>First western release of Romancing SaGa 2 is on mobile
The only series I care about from Square and Nintendo isn't getting it.
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>>375860627
Kawazu doesn't like Nintendo.

The fact that he even made made both Romancing SaGa 2 and 3 remasters for Vita and Smartphones AND ported them in the west on top of that is a huge "fuck you" to Nintendo, SaGa is Sony's stuff by now unless Nintendo comes groveling to him like they did for the DS remakes, which sold like shit too compared to the titles on Sony platforms, so I don't see them doing that, SaGa is a niche series for older people anyway, Nintendo wants the kids.
What even more ironic is that some years ago he even said in an interview that the 3DS could have been kind of cool, and then he went and made everything on Vita, the madman.
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>>375860882
It's great, isn't it?
>>375860628
So fucking what, people said cellphones was going to kill the 3DS and yet nothing happened. Nintendo even makes cellphone games now so it's not like they're going to suffer from it with their godlike ips.
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>>375861356
Yeah, why bother releasing a JRPG that isn't Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest on a Nintendo handheld? Most people are already glued to Pokemon so it is just an uphill battle.
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>>375858339
>Squenix ported a game that failed to break even despite being launched on god knows how many consoles now, one musou clone that currently runs worse than any other version
Their fault for porting a game that was on a stronger console to a weaker one. Reason why it runs like shit even with the dumbed down graphics.

>NIS ported a PS4 game that bombed catastrophically.
Disgaea 5 Switch bombed? Holy shit it'll probably bomb as well in the west.

>Arcsys put a fucking phone port of Othello on the damn thing while keeping on publishing stuff on the Vita of all things.
Guilty Gear Revelator 2 says hi since that game is only on PS4 ATM.

>Bamco announced a new Tales game.
For Switch? Fuck! And I have no interest of getting the fucking Switch. Better come to PS4.

>FROM apparently doesn't give a shit.
Weren't there rumors of the Dark Souls trilogy coming to Switch?

Still I have to say Nintendo really fucked up with Switch.
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>>375861839
The Bravely series turned out pretty successful.
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>>375861852
Disgaea 5 bombed on PS4 too.
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>>375861545
>people said cellphones was going to kill the 3DS and yet nothing happened
They did kill the 3DS, it sold a fraction of what the DS did precisely because of smartphones.
>Nintendo even makes cellphone games now
That should really get your ol' noggin' joggin'.
>>375861839
Pretty much, that's why a lot of small devs like Chunsoft or Sting jumped ships to Sony after the DS, there's basically no market for them on Nintendo consoles, same with people like Artdink or Fu-Ryu, Sony is their only way of survival, though luckily some of them are going back to PC too.
>>375862176
That's because it's literally a FFV clone, and the mobage was more successful than both 3DS games by the way.
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I wanna know more about this game. To me this was the best looking game shown at the Switch event.

And im dead serious.
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>>375861852
FROM doesn't see the Switch as profitable for them since they always made their profits from mostly Playstation, followed by PC and Xbox, but mostly Playstation.
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>>375859560
I liked that movie.

And the novelization, but nobody ever talks about it
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>>375862536
What game is that?
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>>375862850
Octopath Traveler, from the Bravely devs.
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>>375862850

Project Octopath Traveler, the Braverly Default team is behind it.
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>>375859694
>The mid/low budget titles are usually made by the most competent designers and teams they have, as weird as that may be.

I have to agree on this, and funny as well they are much better quality while high budget games nowadays have issues and other shit wrong with them.
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>>375857390
>cancelled
>with how well the switch is doing in Japan
Fucking lel
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>>375862536
>Flame spell
>Great Flame spell
>Fuckhuge Flame spell

Not a good premise.
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>>375859817
The Switch is a 'Vita' if the Vita had done well.
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>>375855829
I'm planning on picking one up around the time this comes out. Might cave for FE Warriors if the roster is to my liking tho.
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>>375862457
I think the price of the handheld has played a larger role in the 3DS selling less than the DS.
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>>375862536
I like it. It's got that same B_D vibe going and made by the same team.
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>>375860415
This!
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>>375862252
The fuck? Well I hope Witch and the Hundred Knight 2 gets them out of the hole saleswise.
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>>375855171
It is our best chance of ever getting an official SD3, but it's not looking good, really
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>>375862536
It looks interesting, but I'm wondering where the light for that battle is coming from.
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>>375863094
And they're even received better in terms of customer feedback.
It's jarring when a low budget game made on Unity gets more praise from your customers than a AAA game with its own engine.
And you'd think that they would try to capitalize on that and push those devs and teams to make more stuff since the profit to budget ratio is so good on top of the absolutely positive reception, but nooo, let's make other four games that would take half a decade to release, a shitload of money and fuck up your fanbase even further than that.
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>>375861852
Disgaea also sold like shit on PS4.
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>>375863276
>>375862924
>>375862948
>BD team is involved

Better not get fucking censored for the west. Hey at least Switch is region free so that makes me less mad there because region free is fucking awesome.
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>>375859817

The problem with the Vita is that not even Sony 1st party cared to support it well after launch. And even then their "big games" were just spinoff titles made by their lesser B teams.
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>>375863778
What would there be to get censored, some character portraits?

Enemy sprites would be the only thing I could think will get changed, and if the trend continues with alot of Japanese games having English language option on the Japanese versions in Switch games, we may not have to worry about that.
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>>375864030
>And even then their "big games" were just spinoff titles made by their lesser B teams.
>Gravity Rush
>Soul Sacrifice
>Oreshika
>Freedom Wars
>Spinoffs
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Don't see why we wouldn't begin to have more Japanese games on Switch seeing as the sales keep going up and there isn't even a 3DS price drop scenario yet
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>>375864791
Damn, that's more than twice as fast as 3DS and PS4.
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>>375855661
Fuck the wall
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>>375864791
Yeah Japan hasn't loved a platform like this in awhile and the games that usually get them addicted aren't even out on the thing yet. Shit's gonna be crazy when those get here.
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>>375864982
It's more than twice as fast as the 3DS and PS4 and with them having a large library of games.
However, I'm not sure if Japan got any major games for 3DS or PS4 during the time period the graph refers to.
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