>god is the final boss

>God is bad
Epic meme.

I love japanese games, but their heresy sometimes pissed me off so much, why do japanese game developers hates christianity so much?

>>375847506
Because they are not Christian you stupid goy

>>375847506
Because Japanese kids want to fantasize and escape into a world where they can defy authority figures.

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>>375847028
>you're the final boss

>vol11 released
T R A N S L A T I O N
W H E N

>>375847506
No ones but christians are unaware of how much unpleasant they are.
Your only positives traits is that most of you are barely religious and being better than muslims. (and honestly you quickly become like them if it wasn't for the low religiosity of western nations)
Countries with a non-abrahamic religion and the few completly nonreligious ones are just the only ones to dare to say it.

>>375848196
i only had to read the first sentence to feel the euphoric presence

>>375847506
It's not typically the Christian God.
It's usually a stand in for the vague Buddhist/Shinto god figures. The only times I've seen western God figures in JRPGs where in games like Dragon Quest where you either rescue the real God from a fake one, or you fight for them.

>>375848196
This is some weird pasta m'laddie.

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>>375848196
I bet you never even read pic related book

>>375848424
>christians are perfect because muh fedora
At least I have arguments.

>>375847506
fuck off retard

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>God is the final boss
>You use the devil to kill him

You were so close to being a good game, Persona 5.

>>375848515
Don't you actually kill God in Dragon Quest VII? He is a secret boss I think.

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>>375848196

>>375848773
He tests you as a post endgame boss after you kill the devil disguising himself as God.

>Christians don't have arguments
Color me surprised.

>>375848670
You have a list of generic teen angst comments.

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>>375848042

>>375848873
I'm playing through Dragon Quest IX right now, it seems to have a story deeply inspired by christianity. Am I right? Is it going to become heretic as I progress? I'm on Zere Ruins right now, the part where you find the dead sculptor.

>>375848663
>DUDE! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DID GOODS THINGS AND WAS IMPORTANT IN THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION!
Nobody is saying otherwise except the most stupid fedoras and/or the dark ages memers but that don't give any legitimancy to christianism nor means you are forced to be christian to not destroy western civilization.

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has "yaldabaoth is abrahamic God" reached meme status by now?

>>375848670
No, no hold on a second there, let me channel the real ultimate power...
You are pathetic to call out only the christians. Anyone who conforms to a hivemind is beyond an inferior specimen.
Choze out.

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>God is a giant monster

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>>375847506
Because no one cares about Shitoism anymore.

Why else would they vilify the one true God?

>>375849221
Did you mean to post an image of Demiurge anon?

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>Final boss is Nietzsche

>>375849102
No. If anything you're trying to stop an arch angel from becoming the next Satan.

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>you punch God in the face

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>>375849290
Maybe.

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>aqua is nopan

>>375847028
>god is a mid-boss

>>375847506

They are not christian, and because of that they don't have your absurd respect over those matters.

Take your head of your ass, nigger.

>>375849458
ur rigte
iell chaeng

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We could be exploring space right fucking now.

>>375849630
Isn't that more the fault of the fall of the Roman empire?

>>375849630
We are exploring space though?

>>375847506
Because barely anybody in Japan has a clue about the religion. So they throw around Christian imagery, themes, and terms because they look and sound cool.

>>375847506
They don't though, at least not most of them. A moderate percentage of them are fascinated with it, in fact, even if they know very little about it.

>>375849630
How exactly is "Scientific Advancement" being measured in this case? Seems vague.

>>375849707
We I mean you and I.

>>375849630
*tips*

>>375849413
that wasnt worth pulling my 3ds out for

>>375849702
It's honestly about 75% the Roman Empire collapsing and 25% the church for destroying many books and scrolls. The fact that we needed to rediscover concrete is a good example.

>>375849785
It's a troll image. The fact that Renaissance Europe is on the same level as the Romans is laughable.

>>375849816
I don't want to explore space.

>>375849702
The image is a hoax, the middle ages was the most important time for advancement of science since it established universities and start the scientific research.

>>375848975
Besides muslims who are a lot more religious (and "coincidentally" more violent), do you see buddhists, hinduists and japanase atheists trying to convert everyone and feel opressed if people don't?
Heck highly religious christians in the west often think they are opressed because of laicity, not always having supremacy in politics and general cultural hegemony on society?
The christian revival in /pol/ is not surprising knowing how they genuinely believe modern society is dominated by progressive propaganda because they don't to make their own propaganda and legally enforce traditionnal values, illegalizing everything they consider degenerate.

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>>375847506
I love Western cartoons, but their heresy sometimes pisses me off so much. Why do Western cartoonists hate Eastern spiritualism so much?

>>375849713
More than that - Christian imagery is taken by some as straight-up spooky and creepy. The statues of a nude man being tortured to death everywhere and seeming worship of said torture implement are fucking weird without much context.

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>>375849630
hilarious

>>375849782
What do you mean exactly by "fascinated"?

>>375849816
Space is shit.

Oh look it's a rock, and another big rock, oh look a big hot ball, oh there's another rock, oh it was actually a ball of gas nice.

Fuck space, it's just a big black nothing full of balls.

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>>375849837
>the church destroing books and scrolls
that's a spicy meme

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>>375847506
I always chalked this up to cultural ignorance/novelty

Like Japan doesn't have a Christian tradition but have a vague cultural osmosis awareness of it so they just think "oh wow Jesus throwing Crucifixes at Adam would be sweeeeet" the same way Americans get about ninjas or samurai or giant city destroying monsters

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>>375847028
>god is the final boss
>you get an instant loss the moment you start the game

>>375849413
MOAR

>>375849963
t. I watch Vikings on history channel

>>375849937
>do you see buddhists, hinduists and japanase atheists trying to convert everyone and feel opressed if people don't?
Not really, mostly because their beliefs are centered on them being the only chosen people for their faiths. Like Judaism for example.

>>375850082
what did he mean by this

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so....this.....is.....the power..... of....humanity.....woah....

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>>375847556
>>375847965
>>375848196
>>375848760
>>375849458
>>375849713
>>375849937


You're all so fucking stupid, but I would expect nothing less from weeb virgins who have never and will never step foot in japan. Fucking morons.

>You're the final boss

>You play as your former friends who have to stop you

>Credits roll after you die

I can name two games that do this.

>>375849975
Some of their media is filled to the brim with symbolism and imagery that is Judeo-Christian in nature/origin, even if it doesn't actually mean anything. Pic very related.

>>375850218
Do you care to explain your points or are you just venting your own frustrations?

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>>375849630
Simpletons

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>>375850279
Shit

>>375849963
Should have stopped at
>Spend the rest of life copying books so future generations will have the knowledge.
>Be dead, not experiencing anything

>>375850279
>Pic very related.
As yes. Neon Getty Eventual lion

>>375849997
I want to believe space will be fun and exciting, but then there's a chance that it turns out to be real life EVE Online.

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>>375849963

>>375850218
kys autismo

>>375850324
Not much to explain. Others have already explained it. You act like they hate Christians with a passion, but this isn't the 1700s anymore. Japanese don't give a fuck what religion you practice.

>>375849630
>muh dark ages
dumb fedora cuck.

>>375850438
>a chance

It is all but fucking guaranteed. We're gonna hit the new age of wild fucking west with megacorps funding their own colonies and ruling the places with an iron fist. It will be Ancapistan in space with no one having any significant power over anyone. except for the small corner of the void they control with the threat of relativistic weaponry, unless something extremely fucking stupid happens and a great war wipes out majority presence of powers that be.

>>375850618
>Not much to explain. Others have already explained it
So you're just venting and lack the passion and or knowledge to support and defend your own ideals. Gotcha.

>>375848196
Kami-sama =/= Deus-sama

>>375850724
Read the thread, fuckwad.

What can we do to convert nips to the one true religion?

>>375850794
>Do my work for me!
No thank you.

>>375850691
>unless something extremely fucking stupid happens and a great war wipes out majority presence of powers that be.
and you know it will eventually

>>375850503
imagine if those dumb peasants manufactured their own ink/parchment and copied their own fucking books instead of asking others to do it for them.

>>375850691
I am looking forward to a Policenauts -esque near-future. Who knows, maybe it won't be THAT bad.

>>375850821
Nuclear war. I mean, the US basically controls Japan now, don't know why they didn't force them to all convert to Christianity after WW2.

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>>375848042

God is you're waifu

>>375850942
I'm honestly surprised we didn't assume total control.

>>375850218
>"stop insulting the superior culture you know nothing about!"
>shit they're gonna think im a triggered weeb
>"Y-you w-weeaboos!"


Loving
Every
Laugh

>>375850942
>still didn't notice that the US is controlled by jews and that they destroyed the two biggest christian cities in Japan with the atomic bomb

>>375850842
Like how the greatest battle in the history of EvE Online was fought because a space station rent payment didn't arrive when it was supposed to. Even earned itself a wikipedia article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodbath_of_B-R5RB

>the fight started after a single player controlling a space station in the star system B-R5RB accidentally failed to make a scheduled in-game routine maintenance payment
>The in-game cost of the losses totalled over 11 trillion InterStellar Kredit (ISK), an estimated theoretical real-world value of $300,000 to $330,000 USD.

>God works at a gas station

what the fuck were they thinking

>>375847506
They don't take it all that seriously and most of the time the god being represented isn't the Christian God, Father of Jesus.

>>375851069
source?

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>>375851120
>mfw

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>>375851218
God is not the father of Jesus, God if Jesus. Jesus is like his Avatar on earth.

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>>375851128
EvE is serious business, isn't it?

Why is /v/ so religious nowadays?!?

>>375851360
It's both dude. He's God. He can do that sort of thing.

>>375851405
fedoras are as dumb as rocks and they've been putting up some bad arguments.

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>>375851381
You have no idea. It's fucking hilarious too.

>>375850942
Religion is part of america but it's not their agenda.

>>375851128
Looks like an autistic game but things like that seem funny

>>375851405
Reddit was created and this board wanted to differentiate itself as much as possible.

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>>375851405
pic related is you

>>375851459
This basically. It's not so much a rise of religion as it is a fall of militant atheism.

>>375851069
This guys stuff is 10/10

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>>375851405
>he doesnt believe in a magical fairy to avoid all questions in the universe because you are simply too stupid for it

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>>375849364
>you punch god into the sun

>>375849364
>you punch god out of existence

>>375849630
>christian dark ages literally took all our steel away bringing us lower than ancient Egypt and keeping us there for 1000 years

relly mkes me tink

>>375851591
This. I essentially converted back to Catholicism because I couldn't take the atheist fedora faglords anymore. I didn't want to be associated with them.

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>>375850691

>Megacorps ruling over Mars using massive weapons to combat eachother

WE ARMORED CORE NOW

>>375851604
>asking a question about why people on /v/ seem to have become more religious than before is fedora

>>375850005
Jews truly succeeded if that's what the average normie thinks

>criticising or even hating on religion is considered edgy and "le m'lady fedora man! xDD"
I want this meme to die.

>>375851451
>>375851360

>God is Jesus
>when Jesus says that he's not to be worshipped, and only his father is deserving of such

CVHECKMATE FEDORAS.

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>>375851869

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do religious people always get this salty when people don't care about religion

Japanese games that are true heresy:

- All Shin Megami Tensei (maybe except Personas)
- All Xeno games directed by Takahashi
- Golden Sun
- Bayonetta
- Grandia II
- Trails the 3rd

Am I forgetting something?

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This is Lucifer, say something nice to her!

>>375851854
Wow I don't like fedoras despite being an atheist too but you are a complete tool.
Do you at least believea bit in God or are you complety roleplaying?

>>375851986
He don't want you to worship his Avatar, but his spiritual transcendental state. Worship God, not his flesh.

>>375851275
https://nhentai.net/g/193024/

>>375851405
Because atheism is literally for angsty teens. No adult believes that stupid crap.

>>375851726
There's a Lalatina one coming too to complete the trio

>>375852226
t. christ cuck who worships a dead jew.

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>>375852226

>>375851405
Atheism used to be edgy. Now that society is collapsing, Christianity is edgy. /v/ and most of 4chan is a Chaos cult, so we just go with whatever causes the most outrage.

>>375851994
Are you retarded? could you explain with words WHY it's fedora?

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>God is the true antagonist
>You let him off the hook

>>375852226
>t. mis-educated southerner

>>375852025
People who don't care about religion are worse than atheists. At least the latters made a decision for their lives. The most important question in one's life is wether God exists or not, if he does then everything in life has a meaning and if he doesn't then life is simply worthless and nothing matters in this world. Saying that you "don't care" about the most important question in life is simply stupid.

>>375852187

What's the difference? He's the same God, isn't he? Why would it matter what form he was in?

The trinity doctrine was a mistake.

>>375852305
Why would he have to? The whole point of his comments is to irritate you.

>>375852226
Your bait is a bit too obvious.

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>>375852305
You ARE being a Fedora, faggot.

>>375852226
>No adult refuses to believe in imaginary wizard in the sky that magically created everything and you shouldn't be asking questions or questioning authority, filthy peasant. You're going to hell.

>>375852285
>>375852298
>>375852379
You have to be 18+ to post here.

>>375852382
>People who don't care about religion are worse than atheists.
At least agnostics aren't going around looking to make obnoxious arguments.

>>375852398
>The trinity doctrine was a mistake.
>(((trinity doctrine)))
only good goys worship the jew gods.

I unironically believe in the greek gods.

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>>375852213
>both anal and aqua in the tags
I feel like I'm going to explode

>>375851360
>od is not the father of Jesus,
So you're calling Jesus a liar when he calls God "my father"?

>>375852547
>You have to be 18+ to post here.
so now you're admitting to being a christ cuck, neat.

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>>375852576

>believing in Daddy Issues: the Pantheon

I'd rather worship Vishnu than touch those losers.

>>375852547
>t. shitposter phone-kun

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>God isn't even the strongest enemy in the game

>>375852382
But my good sir, what you aren't seeing is "I don't care" is the answer. No sleepless nights, no weird practices, nada. You die you die, it happens to everyone and what comes next comes next.

>>375852668
*tips fedora*

>>375852674
>I'd rather worship Vishnu than touch those losers.
so you believe toilets are evil and shit in the street?

and you mock the greek gods, at least they had a fucking toilet to shit in.

>>375852382
you're a very stupid person. not everyone seeks purpose, let alone requires. especially from a deity.

>>375847028
source on this image?

>>375852726
And if what comes next is Hell, then you are fucked for eternity.

>>375852382
>Religious people have "answered" it by believing in a baseless religion but blame atheisrs. for choosing what they think is the most probable answer instead of pretending to believe in the most comfortable one.

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>>375852759

Is it fine being a Baptist yet not caring about religion?

>>375852726
and an eternal torment in the next life because you were too slothful to put the effort into finding out the answer to a basic question.

With forethought like yours, you might as well say "Not eating is the answer, because then you don't have to worry about next week, you're dead of starvation and shit!"

>>375852860
Maybe. But we'll fall from that bridge when we come to it.

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>>375852906

>>375852894
>baseless
You only say that because it holds you to a higher standard than you're comfortable with.

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>>375852851

>>375852915
I guess? What, you base your life on what fucking Channers think is ok or not?

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>>375852967

>>375852496
Why? why is asking why people on a imageboard seem to have become more religious than before is fedora?
For all you know, I could be religious and still see a change.

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>>375852213
Hnng

>>375852894
well, why wouldn't they? it's much easier to just accept a dumb story than to challenge yourself as a person in any way.

like that other anon said though, "who fucking cares" is the way to go.

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>>375847506
Because it's as fucked up and volatile as the religion of peace.

>>375852382
It's such a stupid unimportant question I can't believe it's such a big deal to so many people.
Another thing that bothers me is how current day christianity is a corpse pretending to be actual christianity. Guess that one wasn't normalfag friendly enough huh.

Fedora culture fascinates me. Who would look at those people and think "I want to be like this"?

>>375853058
No not really

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>>375851854

So you decided to group yourself with christians again because you don't want to be seen near a group of cringy people? How does that even work out?

>>375853040
>tfw the author was later found out to be a guy

Dicklets, when will they learn?

>>375853129
Because I'm not autistic enough to believe in that scenario. Play dumb with someone more your own speed.

>>375851360
Bitch I can't be bothered to read up on the canon of your fanfics.

>>375852894
Why do you think atheism is the most probable answer? I dare you to refute the cosmological argument or Aquinas five ways or even the Leibnizian Argument. See where I want to get here? There are a lot of good logical arguments for the existence of God. The ones in the comfort zone are atheist who aren't even capable of opening a basic philosophy book or read a little about theology.

>>375853178
Well then you do your own thing man.

>>375853040
doesnt help.

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>>375851360

>>375852860
>>375852923
>he actually believes in hell
LOL
the whole god thing, i get it. makes people comfortable. but you're actually retarded enough to believe that? hahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>375847028
Xenoblade

>>375853361
Okay

>>375853379
>hell doesnt exist
good try fedora.

although I agree its not what the christ cucks believe it to be.

>>375853141
>Will you be held accountable for everything you've done?
>Is there an afterlife
>Is there a creator of the universe and does he have emotional stock in your life?

>unimportant questions

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>>375851854
Same here. I don't believe in God or any of that stuff, but I tell everyone I'm Christian. My Catholic friend invited me to church so I might start going on the regular. It's comfy.

I miss the days before /pol/ flooded the site with unironic christtards

If you're on 4chan and claim to be christian, there are a handful of scenarios to explain this

1. You are a garbage christians and likely do not follow Jesus' teachings at all, and more closely follow Paul and old testament teachings
2. You flat out do not belong here, since this site is pretty anathema to Christianity
3. You lie to yourself a lot.

>>375853357
Listen here you. It's an interesting question definitely, and I'm sure there's plenty of great minds having fun thinking about it. But it's not important.

>>375853497
They are.

>>375853497
Sure but that don't means human religions have any basis.

>>375853141
The meaning of your life is unimportant? Are OK with dying and there being nothing after it? Are OK with never questioning if life has truly a meaning or not? Are OK with only enjoying eathly desires and not caring for spirtual matters that could lead you to an eternity of happiness? Are OK staying forever on your comfort zones never questioning your own life?

>>375847028
>First phase is an almighty monster who is 20 times larger than you
>Second phase is a human form, same gender and age as your character, and exact same skill set and power level, but with extra special bullshit attacks.

>>375849937
>and legally enforce traditionnal values
Problem is doing this via religion is flat out shariah law and also unconstitutional in numerous countries.

>>375853497
Do you need to be blackmailed into being a good person?

>>375853603
>2. You flat out do not belong here, since this site is pretty anathema to Christianity
This one I guess.

But Christ dined with sinners, as they say.

If God can be defeated with physical weapons, then it is not a god at all.

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>>375853040

Why is he so mad? That was one of the greatest moments in anime history

>>375851854
>>375853518
>not having any integrity

>>375853603
>I miss the days before /pol/ flooded the site with unironic christtards
>unironic
you're not fooling anyone stupid fedora.

>>375853684
Why are people so bothered by this? I would rather have a discussion about whether anime girls with large or small breasts are better and why.

You die you died, there's no helping it.

>>375852923
>basic question
HAH
>Not eating is the answer, because then you don't have to worry about next week, you're dead of starvation and shit!
Except in this situation, we have no idea if starvation is even real.

>>375853737
Well, that's why most human societies developed laws anyway.

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>>375853379
>HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

>>375853497
>>Will you be held accountable for everything you've done?

If religion is supposed to be teaching us that it's done one heck of a shitty job so far.

>>375852382
Life having no meaning =\= life being worthless. Create your own meaning. Or do you need almighty daddy to walk down from on high and tell you what to do?

>>375853859
>Why are people so bothered by this?
Why are the elite bothered that you're a waste of space and would risk nuclear war to remove human filth such as yourself?

no fucking idea.

>>375853825
What use is that?

>>375853859
Hahaha, are you truly OK with dying and:

1. There's simply nothing after death
2. There's Hell after death and you're going there because you didn't care enough about those questions while on Earth?

Both these scenarios are extremely depressing and I would kill myself instantly if I believed that God doesn't exist or that there's nothing after death.

>>375853825
Why should I be loyal to non-belief? That doesn't make any sense. It's not like I'm a Christian going to Mosque or something like that: atheism isn't a religion and I'm not lacking integrity or betraying anybody if I choose to start going to a club full of upstanding, friendly people every Sunday.

>>375853973
You're not an elite. Get off your high horse.

>>375853357
pretty simple: Atheism doesn't demand anything of a person

Atheism is just as wrong as every single religion on the planet if there is a God, because said God created the entire frickin universe and as a direct result is so far beyond human understanding its impossible to even speculate about it, so its very safe to assume every single human made religion is automatically wrong, but if there isn't a God, then Atheism is right.

Agnosticism and Atheism in this regard don't really require a distinction, they both demand no arbitrary rules.

>>375853954
It's useless to create your own meaning if after death you'll be reduced to nothing. If you don't believe in God then life IS meaningless. There is only meaning to it if there is something after death.

>>375854086
>You're not an elite.
good try faggot.

>>375854061
>it's going to be so bad after i die
>better make it happen right now instead of enjoying what i can
don't wonder too hard why people don't take you seriously

>>375854061
Yeah, I'm pefectly fine with dying. The fact that you find death and the nothingness following it, depressing, is more of a (You) problem. Stop being a pussy bitch boy.

>>375853954
you wasted a lot of time saying absolutely nothing

>>375853841
Rather have a fedora over being an actual retard who believes fairy tales, but can't even follow them. What happened to turn the other cheek?

>>375854004
I dunno, without being annoyingly vocal about it you could at least not lying about basic stuff like what you believe in,ect..
The worst is that people like that are often blaming those who are being honest.

>>375854061
>I would jump into these depressing scenarios immediately if I believed they would happen.
Beg your pardon?

>>375854250
>dumb fedora cant read
what a surprise.

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>>375853804
I like this argument, Christfag.

>>375854061
If there's nothing after death then thinking about it is pointless anyway. If Hell exists then everyone is going there regardless, because Christian sin covers literally everything.

>>375853114
And that's the same page
Good shit

>>375854251
So...nothing of any real substance then?

>>375854148
If there is a God, chances are you're still being reduced to nothing after death

God does not automatically imply afterlife

>>375854148
But that don't proves that an afterlife exists.

>>375853684
>The meaning of your life is unimportant?
What are you talking about I'm just some random fucko and so are you.
> Are OK staying forever on your comfort zones never questioning your own life?
I don't feel like answering all the question because it's a lot of them but I liked this one. I think life is something to be escaped, and I'm willing to bet escaping it is what you spend most of your time doing too.

>>375854416
>If there is a God, chances are you're still being reduced to nothing after death
proof?

>>375854148
Absolute nonsense founded on assumptions.

>the only reason to live is to die

>>375849630
>islam rapidly spreads over the middle east, north africa and west and south of europe
>takes over the mediterranean
>constantly pushes european civilization further in
>remnants of the roman empire destroyed
>catholic church does best it can to preserve knowledge and scientific improvement
>press hasn't even been invented so even if literacy was high spread of knowledge is limited
>centuries of war later islam starts to get pushed back and out of europe
>renaissance
>steady improvement growth from that point onwards
TWAS ALL CHRISTIANITY'S FAULT *tipping intensifies*

>>375854386
Depends on the person.

>>375852726
>"I don't care" is the answer

not knowing != not caring

Humans look for purpose and a deeper meaning to life because curiosity and thirst for knowledge are part of the things that define us

Nobody who isn't dead inside / hasn't given up to their basic instincts and immediate gratification like a lesser animal would genuinely feel careless towards existential questions

Saying that you don't know the answer is one thing, saying that you don't care is entirely different

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>>375854459
I said so

exact same proof every religion uses for their afterlives

And please don't bring up the various "proof for god" arguments around, they don't matter, what you need is proof for afterlife

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>>375851405
>asking a contrarian board why its being contrarian

>see thread
>expecting discussions regarding Kefka
>walk into a shit flinging free for all
Video Games

>>375853737
That's it, retard. Searching for answers to life's great questions is a matter of BLACKMAIL.

Holy fucking shit. All of scientific research is done because the scientists are being BLACKMAILED. That's the only reason why anyone searches for answers or knowledge, right? You retarded motherfucker. No wonder you're so fucking stupid. You refuse to learn or do anything unless someone threatens you. This is a whole new level of stupid.

No, you fucking moron. The answers to those questions basically direct your life's path. Consider this -- if you have the mental power to consider anything:
Would you invest money in a company if you knew you would get a guaranteed return on investment of 10,000% within a week?
Would you invest money in a company if you knew you were guaranteed to lose every cent within the week?

Some day you will die. It's a certain destination. It might be wise to plan for that by doing some basic research into what that means.

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>>375849630

>>375854541
you should probably mention that if christ cucks hadn't harbored the jews then muslims would have never done that.

they were chasing down the real enemy and you defended the parasite like the retarded good goyim that you are.

>>375854069
Sure but don't say that people who wouldn't act like you are fedoras.

>>375854307
>If Hell exists then everyone is going there regardless, because Christian sin covers literally everything.

That is outright false. During the middle ages everyone was a christian and those things weren't seen as "impossible to follow". Modernity has corrupted you into believing that degeneracy is the natural state of men, but in truth you can surpass any weakness that makes you sin.

>>375854609
>I said so
into the trash it goes.

>>375854646
>blackmailed
Yep your an idiot haha

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>not being on the side of righteousness

>>375854570
You're a pretty typical religishit that identifies anyone who doesn't think like you do as an enemy to be reviled, judged and feared while tossing vague generalizations everywhere. You're also betraying your own teachings by being merciless and unforgiving, but I guess that is lost on you too.

>>375847506
Because Christians are no better than Muslims. In fact in my experience, they are even worse.

Muslims aren't actually in government trying to force shariah law on me. Christians are, and they are also trying to force me to pay them for it.

>>375854307
>atheism
>religion
How to stop uneducated fags.

>>375854459
There's no evidence that ghosts/spirits/souls exist, and the life functions which support your personality cease to operate when you die. So the logical assumption is that you cease to exist as a person when you die. Now, that's not proved, nor is it even provable, but it's the most logical conclusion to reach given what is known. So the onus is on afterlife believers to provide evidence that the afterlife exists.

>>375853040
>tfw small dick

>>375854759
yup
now throw your idea of the afterlife in the thrash as well because it comes down to "because I said so" in the end

if any religion actually had proof for their afterlife we'd know because it'd be the single biggest and most important discovery in the history of mankind

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>>375847028
>>375853705

You called?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKr9zwS41Ms

>>375854829
I can practically smell the Cheetos on your breath.

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>>375847028
>God is simply fulfilling the wishes of a really butthurt immortal
>God does such a good job at it he gets nerfed for 20 million hp, and becomes a joke

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>Christianity is le religion of peace

What about the Tai Ping rebellion, as well as the subjugation and overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom by protestants?

>>375854829
>Muslims aren't actually in government trying to force shariah law on me.
they're in the democratic party so good try retard.

also, if the muslims win then you better hope you're not a faggot or fedora because the christians will join the muslims at that point and fuck shit up.

>>375848770
>20XX
>thinking Demiurge is worthy of worship

It's literally a retard playing pretend at being god

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>>375854664
garbage

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>God
>existing

>>375854857
>no evidence
there is evidence. You fail to accept any of it because it leads to conclusions that make you uncomfortable.

>>375854593
If anything in life is sinful, it's this image.

>>375854625
We somehow got past the stage of calling each other fedoras, now we're getting to the meat of the discussion. Would you like to join us?

>>375854843
It's faster than "belief system"

>>375854967
Delusional

>>375854857
>There's no evidence that ghosts/spirits/souls exist
absesnce of evidence =/= evidence of absence

and before you go HURR DURR STUPID CHRIST KEK ACTUALLY BELIEVES IN GHOSTS, I dont actually but your stupid fedora arguments are nigger tier at best.

fuck off retard.

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>>375854061

I want to believe that when I die I'll be reborn as an anime grill but I don't mistake my desire for an afterlife as an actual evidence that there is one.

We're all afraid of death, that's what it means to be human. We all just cope with the fact that death will happen differently. It's not like us atheists treat death with total disinterest.

As for the matter of hell, if believing in the wrong god leads to hell and since there are over 4000 of different religions that ever existed since recorded history, it becomes a silly game of probability to pick the correct one.

>>375855008
Says the man that screams "there's no evidence for the human soul"

>>375854843
"Atheism" is a word associated with religion, though, in the same way that "pedestrian" is a word associated with motorists. The word "atheist" only exists because theists exist.

>>375854967
Give us some then.

>>375855008
Dismissal is easy. Refuting is hard.

>>375854884
I never said it existed, I just said your argument was shit which you now admit to.

kill yourself stupid fedora.

>>375855071
Yes, associated but it's not a religion.

>>375854307
>If Hell exists then everyone is going there regardless, because Christian sin covers literally everything.
Nope, just ask for forgiveness on your death bed or while dying. Free passport to Heaven.

>>375855097
>>375855052
Delusional

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>>375851069
>>375851275
>>375852213
>>375853114
>the page where she anally climaxes and starts farting his seed back out
the only way this doujin could be any hotter to me is if there was facesitting involved

>>375854307
That's not what bhuddism is at all. Bhuddism says life is suffering, and the only freedom is oblivion which happens when you become enlightened.

>>375850374
>proto-kangdoms

It will never not be funny for me

>>375850218
/thread

>>375854646
nah I was making a silly blanket statement saying that all that really matters in the end is being a good person and that the reason for it shouldn't matter.
>You refuse to learn or do anything unless someone threatens you
I know you didn't intend for this but this is almost the truth, the other motivator is the opposite of a threat, a bribe. Pain, pleasure, peace of mind and all that jazz.

>>375855043
Believing in the wrong god don't necessarily sends you the hell. If said person wasn't properly introduced to christianity or knows very little about it, but still lives a life following the natural law then said person can be saved. And even if that person don't live a proper life, it still can be saved, the One who decides who goes to Hell and who goes to Heaven is God after all, not us.

So was the Konosuba game actually good?

>>375855327
Yo nigga this is some fanfiction shit? U sound stupid af nigga ha ha fuck god

>>375855043
If the idea of heaven and nirvana are that of perfection, wouldn't each person go to the afterlife that they believed in?
Athiests would get the eternal peace of the void for example

I don't think anyone who has a credible argument uses their belief as evidence

Have fun as a grill anon

>>375855149
Asking for forgiveness isn't the same as repenting.
Please don't use doped up TV writer logic to try to refute foundations of millennia old ideals.

>>375855024
I'd say this is a valid application of occam's razor though

the existence of the afterlife requires a great deal of assumptions, one needs to assume God exists, is aware of us, cares about us, considers the end of life to be tragic, has actually built an afterlife etc.
and that's only for a generic afterlife, not one specific to a certain religion

all the no afterlife requires in assumptions is that our bodies fully conform to the laws of nature

>>375854967
I'd love to see this evidence, if you can show me. I don't feel uncomfortable about the prospect of eternal life. Who in their right mind would?

>>375855024
>HURR DURR
>KEK
>fedora
>nigger
>fuck off
>retard
You raise a compelling point, Anon. Thank you for this discussion. I wasn't trying to be provocative, I was merely explaining that positive claims require positive proof to be demonstrated as true. I'm sorry that I struck a nerve!

>redditsuba

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>>375847028

Yeah, and it was sublime as fuck.

>>375855117
I know its a shit argument, I'm just saying: its literally the only argument that has ever been presented in regards to an afterlife

>>375855379
yeah, it was pretty fun, you should try it.

Are the christfags answering to the fedora here just as bad as them?

>>375853040
>he doesn't want a woman to look at his dick and give a small suppressed laugh as if to say it's smaller or funnier looking than she expected

>>375855463
Why would you want to live for eternity? That sounds absolutely miserable my man

>>375855462
>I'd say this is a valid application of occam's razor though
reddits razor has no logical backing whatsoever and is complete garbage.

you're still just making shit up

into the trash you go.

>>375855660
Does it matter?

>>375847167
God is literally evil

>>375855713
SPH is a kino fetish

>>375855463
Evidence for what? God's existence? Go read the philosophical arguments, read Thomas Aquinas, read Leibniz, read William Lane Craig etc.

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernadette_Soubirous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_Sun
https://www.amazon.com/Reasonable-Response-Answers-Questions-Christianity/dp/0802405991/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1493845842&sr=8-4&keywords=william+lane+craig
https://www.amazon.com/Son-Rises-Historical-Evidence-Resurrection/dp/1579104649/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1493845842&sr=8-8&keywords=william+lane+craig
https://www.amazon.com/Theologica-Complete-Unabridged-Thomas-Aquinas-ebook/dp/B003T9V9A4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1493845896&sr=8-2&keywords=Aquinas

>>375855863
You're not exactly making a compelling argument yourself, either.

>>375855538
>if I don't like it it's Reddit XD

>>375854967
are you really that stupid?
vast majority of atheists would absolutely LOVE it if any form of afterlife existed
you think there aren't a shitload of atheists that secretly hope they're wrong?

>>375853357
you are fucking insane if you think Aquinas was in anyway logical, a toddler could make a better argument than him

>>375853040

Wait so the scene is real? I always thought it was a photoshop.

Anyone got a link to the scene?

>>375855926
God's existence is irrelevant to the existence of an afterlife given God is not required to create an afterlife
the only thing that proves an afterlife is evidence for the existence of an afterlife, the "god proof" (even if most of them are hilariously circular) does not even begin to apply.

Same thing with religions, proof of god is not proof of your religion

>>375851854
>>375855327
>Believing in the wrong god don't necessarily sends you the hell. If said person wasn't properly introduced to christianity or knows very little about it, but still lives a life following the natural law then said person can be saved.
You got some scripture to back that up?

So to all the Christfags out there: were you all brainwashed as kids?

My parents aren't religious, so I never really gave a shit about religion

>>375855992
Aquinas wrote 12 books giving explanations for a lot of questions in christianity and on philosophy and you think you can refute him in one line on an imageboard. Nice.

>>375856183
Yeah man. Totally and shit.

>>375854795
>"I don't care about knowing if there's life after death"
>not caring about questions related to the continuity of your own existence

Why don't you care about such an important question? It should even tingle your survival instincts. It's like you lack enough understanding to comprehend its implications, just like a small child who lacks abstract thought.

There's no worse ignorant than those who don't care about knowledge.

>>375849630
Humans are not that capable.

>>375856229
There's more than 12 books written by philosophers explaining geocentrism, doesn't mean it's right

-What makes think that the God you believe in isn't just something else or exist as more than one entity?
-What makes you think the Devil and God are separate entity?
-What makes you think God isn't just trolling humanity for kicks?
-What makes you even think that God even give a shit about humanity?
-What makes you think that God favors humans instead of aliens from another planet?
-What makes you think that the Bible written by humans is the word of God when all you have is their claim?
-If you lifeforms are too complex for evolution to occur naturally, then how do you explain how God came to be? If you just say its by magic or that he existed at all times, why can't you say that animals always existed or spontaneously appeared?

>>375856183

I've had some personal experiences but I won't share or go too deep in them because I will get answers like:

>LOL UR FULL OF SHIT
>UR DELUSIONAL

And so on. Basically won't bother explaining why I believe in whom I believe.

You're also free to believe or not believe and will never understand why people get so upset over other people's views.

>>375848770
Nigga, it's Gnosticism. Demiurge is the fake God and Sataniel is one of his agents that realized this and rebelled against him in order to set humanity free and meet the real God.

>>375856310
Ok brainwashed

>>375856183
Honestly not a lot of people not raised religiously ever become religious.

>you are God

>>375855926

The most important christian and moral philosopher of all time, Kant himself said all of these are bollocks because God is a matter of faith, not evidence.

>>375856312
I can understand it
the knowledge that there is no afterlife produces a sufficient amount of existential dread in a lot of people that it becomes downright crippling so in a way disregarding the question is necessary to remain sane.

it might even be evolutionary given all the people who weren't capable of ignoring this existential dread would have a vastly lower fitness during a time when evolution still applied to hominids

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>>375854829
>In fact in my experience, they are even worse.

I'm sorry, what? Exactly how many Christians blow shit up in the name of Christ on average nowadays? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I hear people say this.

The whole "le christfags are just as bad as muslims" meme is really retarded. You'd have to deny reality to unironically believe that nonsense.

>>375856345
I'm not well educated on those matters but Heliocentrism is proved to be right, it is a fact, there is no discussions about it. Philosophy on the other hand is an entirely different matter, you can't say it's a fact that Aquinas is wrong without giving a proper argument. Let's be real here, if anyone here could refute Aquinas, that person would be teaching in a really prestigious university like Harvard or Cambridge and not posting on an Imageboard.

>>375856421
Why are all the Christians in this thread so insufferable, then? I just want to live my life without delving into religion, let alone some person attacking me for my beliefs (or lack thereof).

>>375851824
>>375852073
>>375852226
>>375854307
>>375854682
>>375854943
>>375855149
>>375855554
>>375855912
I have severe ADHD without medication I cannot focus on conversations and my train of thought wanders erratically from subject to subject.

I'm a geotechnical engineer that works with power companies to ensure water tables aren't interfered with or won't damage projects.

As far as I know I'm not 1-2 feet in height and am capable of complex speech and reasoning.

So are you purposely being facetious with your assumed definition of 'literal' or...?

>>375856565
tends to be fairly common in africa, religious violence is very much a 2 way street there (or 3+ given the persistence of traditional faith)

>>375856437
Yeah man.

>>375856743
Thanks bro

>>375856658
Literally no one cares

>>375856607
just saying that simply because someone wrote a lot of books on a subject, that still doesn't mean he is right

>>375856607
No one bothered because Aquinas couldn't argue his way out of a paper bag.

>>375852073
I wanna KISS Lucifer!

Would you kill a god if you could?

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>mfw defending christinity here while fapping to hentai on another tab

>>375856658
I wasn't, there has quite literally never once been an argument in favor (or against might I add) the existence of an afterlife that was based on evidence
therefor you can reduce every single argument regarding that subject to "because I said so"

>>375856658
I was being quite serious when I said Christian sin covers LITERALLY everything. Shaving your beard, wearing clothing with two or more different types of cloth, killing, raping, murdering and stealing is no different, you're going to hell.

>>375848670
In that's moment I felt euphoric.

>Satan and Lucifer are treated as separate beings

>>375856785
no one implied that.

>>375855956
i could vomit a better argument than you.

>hurr durr its correct because it SEEMS correct
reddits razor is the cancer killing philosophy.

>>375856846
I say it's humanity's responsibility to try
if we can kill god, then it wasn't a proper god to begin with so that would open us up to change reality to better suit our needs
if we can't that proves God is right

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>>375847028
>God is the first boss

>>375856885
it's a magical time to be alive, religion arguments are always fun to have.

>>375856641

>Why are all the Christians in this thread so insufferable, then?

Playing the victim card? Didn't even said anything to insult you.

I know /v/ hates religion for the most part which is why I never engage in discussion about it.

If you believe, cool. If you don't. cool too. It's your life after all.

>tfw you know it's not about religion's' myths and creation that matters or whether god is real or not
>tfw the only thing that matters from religion is the values it instills to its believers and followers

Whether God exists or not doesn't matter in your life and is a question that leads to nowhere.

>>375848515
YHVH can't really be interpreted as anything else

>>375856952
They are different beings, particulary in the Jewish tradition. Lucifer is the fallen Angel.
Satan is God's angel, whose sole role is to server as the "Accuser", basically be the second opinion in judgments.

>2017
>not being deist

>>375848196
I'm amazed by how such a shitty bait derailed the thread.

>>375857136
why does god need a second opinion?