What comes to mind when you see this image /v/?

I think finally, a decent zelda game, skyward sword sucked and twilight princess was merely OK

>>375837142
Jaded, entitled consumer base, out-of-touch developers, and a corrupt, paid-off journalist middleman

>>375837142
Suicide

a game that i seriously did not enjoy.

>>375837142
that everyone should form his own opionion and shit on critics

>>375837361
>entitled consumer base

Uh....duh? What else would the consumer base be? How is this even a complaint?

>>375837361
BotW deserves its score though

>>375837142
the disconnect between critics and user scores.

>>375837142
Sonybros' tears

Obviously paid critic score. At this point Nintendo titles are the Marvel/Disney of vidya

That the 7.6 userscore is correct, BotW offers nothing substantial as an open world game, just an oversized world filled with the weakest dungeons in the series, fetch quests out the ass, and a world that can feel pretty fucking lifeless

A near perfect game and a shitload of haters giving 0 score user reviews.

>>375837142
I feel sad that there hasn't been a decent Zelda since Windwaker.

>>375837458
I agree, good goy.

>>375837142
I'm a poorfag so I haven't played the game. Is it really a 97/100? Tell me /v/.

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>>375837142

>>375837142
That I'm happy the game did well and people are having fun with it, but I simply cannot understand how /v/ can worship it so much while hating on Skyrim that also scored extremely high.

>>375837739
This

>>375837142

That reviews are a joke.

>>375837728
It is one of the finest games ever made if you enjoy exploration and freedom.

>>375837630
Yeah this.

7.5-8/10 seems like the correct score for this game.

>>375837728
Is OOT your favorite?
then no
If MM is your favorite?
they you will love it.

>>375837458
Thanks.
I needed a laugh.
Only 653 korok seeds left.

>>375837776
Why do people worship Skyrim? It was inferior compared to what you can do in Oblivion and the Dragons were not even a big deal half the time.

>>375837142
I don't like sandboxes so I dropped the game without even finishing it, also it looks ugly and music is extremely forgettable. The actual score should be around 85.
Thank god I didn't have to actually pay for it.

>>375837728
It's a great game. Doesn't deserve 10/10 though, but no game does. No game is perfect, everything has flaws.

>>375837993
How does that even make sense? You can like both of them, why does something have to be one way or the other with you?

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>>375837630
>>375837881

>>375838049
>didn't like the game
>didn't even finish it
>score should be 85

wtf? You realize 85 is actually a pretty good score right? You are either trolling or secretly loved the game

>>375838130
Then what's the point of a grade scale if there's a number you can never use? Wouldn't that just be a 9 point scale and means that 9 would be the highest number achievable?

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>>375837642

Left: paid reviews
Right: they do it for free

>>375838249
literally barnyfag tier

>>375838130
This is a stupid idea.

>>375837142
Anger, frustration, rage. Horizon and Nier are better it's just not fair

>>375837142
"overated piece of shit", what else.

>>375837142
Overrated garabge. Discussion didn't even last the month it got released, meanwhile fe heroes has been having consistent threads here since january

>>375838484
>Nier
yes
>Horizon
no

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>>375838224
I didn't like it but I can see why other people do. The gameplay here is indeed very good (albeit still flawed in some places), for that alone it deserves a high score. But it's not a masterpiece.
If I were to give my personal rating, it would be 6/10.

>>375837142
>StandardOperatingProcedure.png

>>375838372
Provide a better idea faggot

>>375838227
Because people like to give shit arbitrary numbers to make things simple when buying shit. I'd honestly give the game a high 8 or low 9 though.

>>375838160
Well shilled.

>>375837739
This is really the best picture for any BOTW thread. I laugh every time I see it. Bless Hylia

>>375837142
I greatly enjoy Breath of the Wild. Nintendo could have listened to the critics sucking Skyward Sword's dick and made more of the Zelda formula that's been continually dumbed down if still polished post-N64. Instead they listened to fans and got a whiff of what people actually like these days. There's a lot of room for improvement but the verticality, climbing, and distinct landmarks make every other open world game feel limited in how I navigate them and I can't stomach walking around any of them anymore.

>>375837142
I'm getting a little jaded with this non-stop BotW shitposting every fucking day, can we all agree that it's GOTY and just fucking move on already?

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>>375838762
>can we all agree that it's GOTY
No.

>>375837728
No
>Giving the player four actual puzzle related items means that the puzzles get repetitive extremely fast
>Which is especially bad with the game giving you over 100 shrines that have the same copypasted atmosphere
>Only five dungeons and they are the worst in the series
>Combat is extremely one dimensional with only ten actual different weapons that have one attack button and over a hundred copy pasted weapons based on the actual 10
>Add to this an incredibly lazy weapon durability system that had no effort put into it
>The story is badly told and it has some incredibly mediocre voice acting
>Final boss is made up of copy pastes of the dungeon bosses and the worst Gannon of the series
>World is oversized and lifeless as fuck and the people have less effort put into them than Skyrim NPCs
A 7/10 is being too nice to it

>>375837142
"cool"

>>375838605
>Overrated garabge. Discussion didn't even last the month it got released


What? You're in a fucking thread right now. Two months later and the game gets regular 500+ threads every fucking day.

>>375837142
>Critics are more likely to give a game a higher score than it deserves
>Users who post reviews are more likely to give it a lower score than it deserves

Taking this into account, can we all agree that BoTW is a solid 9/10 overall?

>>375837142
How asshurt v can get over Zelda

>>375837142
It's a great game, but not a 97. I'd give it a 93.

>>375837728
Yes Im 120 hours in and still finding new stuff and doing nice sidequests

>>375838834
Even Nier was better than P5, this year so far is like

BotW > Nier > P5 > Nioh

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>>375838834
BotW and Nier are better than P5 though. Persona doesn't even count as it came out last year.

>>375837471
>the disconnect between critics and user scores.
Critics that don't get a game for review usually don't just go and publish a 0 or 1 score without the game, but many people just go to leave reviews like that for a game they haven't played. You can go and check the user reviews, it's probably close to 70% 9s and 10s, and 30% 0s and 1s.

>>375838904
>that the puzzles get repetitive extremely fast
Stopped reading here, in BotW your approach to puzzles is only limited to your creativity. Sounds like you're a fucking moron if you found them repetitive.

>>375838605
You do realize there's a lot of people still talking about Zelda outside of this website right?

I think you rely on this place a bit too much.

>overrated grarabge

I think you meant garbage and I disagree, I actually have fun playing it.

>>375838690
But if we didn't give numbers or some sort of grade we would be forced to read paragraph after paragraph of long rants. Scores can help summarize all those thoughts and feeling into a very understandable scale that takes literally a second to comprehend and understand.

>>375838834
>Posts a inferior Shin Megami Tensei clone

Get that shit out of here and play an actual shin megami tensei game you fucking weakling.

>>375837142
A game that was recieved well by both critics and users.

>>375839002
So is Yakuza 0 a 2015 release then?

>>375838132
There tends to be 2 types of zelda fans, those who like the series and enjoy it's many different flavors and then there are OOT fags that whine for years because 1 animator made a video with legit issues.

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>>375838834
P5 is my personal GOTY, I haven't had this much fun with a game in a while. To me. it was certainly more engaging than both BotW and Nier.

Don't believe the hype

>>375839052
>Scores can help summarize all those thoughts and feeling into a very understandable scale that takes literally a second to comprehend and understand.
Very true, but it sometimes gets to the point where the only thing people care about are numbers and their numbers for the things they like being higher than others

>>375838834
>weebs are THIS delusional

>>375839049
stop replying to obvious baits, it just makes you look like a retard

>>375837728
Objectively speaking, it's a new high benchmark for open world games. If you want an enjoyable adventure game there is nothing to touch it right. The pissing and moaning comes from assblasted /v/tards who hate Nintendo and are unable to accept that they made a good game.

>>375839052
>Get that shit out of here and play an actual shin megami tensei game you fucking weakling.
It's literally the best Megami Tensei game since Nocturne, not sure why you can't enjoy all games in the franchise.

>>375839129
>7.6
>good
lmboing my b*tt off

Annoying overrated garbage

>>375838040
At least for me, the sense of freedom was better than ever, the world was super nice and comfy, I got to fuck around for ages always finding new hiden things, and just like every TES games, I mod the shit out of it, turning it into my own masterpiece.

You mention dragons, in my Skyrim I have tens of entirely new models (skeleton dragons, wyrms, fire dragons, dwemer dragons, etc...), tens of unique spells like firestorms and shit, new animations, new AI.

You can literally fix EVERYTHING you disliked. But if you're a consolecuck or have no idea how to use a PC (so pretty much all of /v/), it's understandable that you don't find Skyrim that good.

>>375839165
>legit issues

>same "animator" plays Breath of the Wild and actually contridicts himself the entire time which commenters posts about his nonsense constantly

Yeah, I wouldn't be backing up that horse anon. At all.

>>375837142
i havent played because i dont have the money to just buy a console for 1 game but the game looks good

looking forward to playing it one day

>>375839208
BotW is also a weeb game for fucks sake

>>375839008
Actually
8282 total
6616 8-10 scores: 80%
482 5-7 scores: 6%
1177 0-4 scores: 14%

>>375839157
Yeah. I guess you could say my favorite localized game this year is Yakuza 0, P5 was a disappointment for the most part.

>>375839249
>The pissing and moaning comes from assblasted /v/tards who hate Nintendo and are unable to accept that they made a good game.
And what if I don't like open-world games like BotW? Am I supposed to force myself into liking it just so others would feel more comfortable?

>>375837642
Serious question: What does BotW fail to capture, in your opinion, that OoT, MM and WW had? Because in terms of adventure and exploration it is by far the best of the 3D games and that's what Zelda has always been about.

>>375839292
Who is that?

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>>375839310
(You)

>>375839254
Because Persona isn't part of shin megami tensei and is just a watered down inferior series in comparison for starters?

>It's literally the best Megami Tensei game since Nocturne

>Didn't play IV or Apocalypse

My...fucking....sides

>>375839310
It literally is not, Weeb is specifically about anime

>>375839310
>BotW is also a weeb game for fucks sake
Define "weeb".

>>375838249

This shit is why I hated WW.

Everything took such a fucking long time to happen, every animation was unnecessarily long.

I remember on some cave where you had to jump between giant leaves, if you fell down, it would take like 5 minutes to get back to the starting point (even if the room was small) because of the time the animations took

>>375839289
If I have to go out of my way and install things to the designed game...that means by obvious definition that the original thing made by the actual creators is NOT good. You realize that if it wasn't for fans to fix it, that negates your statement and reinforces mine right?

>>375837142
First truly good 3D Zelda since Majora's Mask

>>375839439
I didn't it was a part of SMT, I said Megami Tensei you know the franchise that SMT and Persona belong to?

I did play IV and it had some serious pacing issues, Smirks were broken, game was laughably easy after Medusa and the only good alignment link was Walter.
I haven't played Apocalypse yet though.

>>375839397
Egoraptor has been playing Breath of the Wild on GameGrumps and is the same guy who made the video dissing OOT

>>375839370
Of course not. It is possible to dislike something for personal reasons while at the same time still acknowledging the craft that went into it. I don't like classical music, but that doesn't mean it's shit.

>>375837142
Great game. Have to say, I'm enjoying it more than bloodborne. I purchased two new systems just for one game. Been playing games since yars revenge. And Breath of the Wild has recaptured the fun I used to have as a kid when playing a game.

>>375837142
The first good Zelda since LTTP

>>375837142
It's 2% too high. It's a solid 9.5/10 game to me.

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That game play is more important that graphics or fps and Nintendo is the only company still going by this.

>>375839607
Of course you haven't played Apocalypse yet, you've been wasting away on Persona 5

>>375839705
This.
OoTtoddlers were a mistake.

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>>375839748
Since there's nothing good coming out for a while I'll start it today.
World of Strength in this game?

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>>375839439
>it's a "SMT IS BETTER THAN PERSONA YOU CASUALS" episode
Oh come on. You know full well that no one gives a shit about your "edgy and hardcore" garbage at this point, that's why even Atlus almost gave up on it. The overwhelming majority prefers Persona, it's a fact.

Persona 5 >>>> Any Shin Megami Tensei for the simple fact that Persona doesn't try to shove gnosticism every fucking time down to your throat

>>375839707
I wish scores would disappear altogether. No other entertainment medium takes scores this seriously. It's fucking embarrassing.

>>375837142
Delicious Sonybro tears

Critics played Zelda growing up
10/10 I remember it

>>375837142
A score knocked down by Horizon shills.

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>>375839165
(you)

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>>375837142
>Pic related

>>375839873
>No other entertainment medium takes scores this seriously.
You haven't been to a capeshit movie thread in a while, huh?

>>375839439
Just admit that you didn't play P5 and move on instead of embarrassing yourself for no reason.

>>375838834
P5 and BOTW are tied for GOTY for me. They both engaged me just as much without any frustration from either game. Similar game time too.

>>375839873
yeah, inteligent people don't give a fuck about scores, only normies do. See the japanese, best people in the world and they have like 2 magazines that do reviews, and one of them is just a series of tweets (famitsu)

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>>375839871
>Persona doesn't try to shove gnosticism every fucking time down to your throat
t. hasn't played the game

>>375839763
I was 20 when I played OoT, the fuck did you just call me?

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Proof that sonīggers are the saltiest fanbase.

>>375837142
A bit too high, but still the best modern (i.e. post-N64) Zelda so far.

>>375839997
Well then you're probably not an OoTtoddler now are you?

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>>375839871
What did Anonymous mean by this?

>>375840117
You mean best post SNES Zelda.

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That paid reviews are no longer a meme and a factual reality. So glad gaming """""journalism""""" is dying.

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>>375839439
>WELL AKCHUALLY SMT IS BETTER BECAUSE P5 IS FOR CASUALS
P5 has a bevy of mechanics hidden away that you can discover if you max out confidants, this idea that it's watered down is only possible if you didn't play it

>>375839539
Except the game is great even vanilla, the reviews are done vanilla.

Also, there's the fact that TES games are designed with modding in mind, there's a reason why you can mod from day one, there's a reason why you can tweak a shitton of settings in the .ini files, and there's a reason why they are BY FAR the most moddable games.

The idea is to make your own 10/10 jewel, you fix/improve the points you think need fixing, and everyone has different opinions. Want magic? With mods it makes Morrowind and Dragon's Dogma look like baby's first magic game. Want graphics? 4-8k parallax textures on everything with improved meshes, new models and an ENB. Want gameplay? You can redo the skill trees entirely, redo the crafting/smithing entirely, have locational damage, rope arrows to climb stuff, water arrows, etc... Want content? Hundreds of lore friendly weapons/armors/monsters/professionally voiced NPC, etc... Are you a pathetic human being? Add lolis with breast physics and functionnal spaceships.

Skyrim is a great game, that just like every TES game reaches his true potential with mods. EVERY GAME EVER MADE would be better if you can mod it the same way you can mod TES games, because games have to be done with a certain budget and time limit. Of course you'll be able to improve it over the years when thousands of turbo autists are creating mods for free. But studios don't give a shit, Todd does.

>>375839994
>>375840170
Oh shit, I didn't play P5 yeat, don't tell me they started putting that shit in Persona games too? FUCK

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>>375840224
It also takes a ton from SMT in terms of gameplay and actually did Light, Dark and Physical skills better than Apocalypse. The "Persona is a watered down SMT" meme holds no water after 5.

>>375837142

Horizonfags committing suicide.

>>375840361
>implying Horizon is not as good as BotW if not better

>prasing new-zelda garbage instead of classic zeldas
>prasing persona garbage instead of smt
You are all casuals.

>>375837881
You're trying to hard to be conteaian, sweetie.
It's overrated by critics like most Nintendo games, but at the very least it's an 88-90.

>>375840494
LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVPXKdSEGNQ

>>375839049
>in BotW your approach to puzzles is only limited to your creativity
waow, picking up a rock, so creative
picking up a rock and throwing it in a ring, so much creativity
shooting a put in a tree, I'm fucking overcome with all the possibilities here
shooting a balloon, truly too fucking much here
sticking a box in a pattern of boxes, fucking hell even michelangelo would be dumbfounded at the sheer
CREATIVE POSSIBILITES ON
FUCKING OFFER

>>375839871
The ending has you killing Demiurge with Satanael. It's not shoving it down sure but it is there.

>>375839863
>You know full well that no one gives a shit about your "edgy and hardcore" garbage at this point

But that statement is incorrect. And if i was accurate why would I care? I know it's leagues better than the Persona series?

>"edgy and hardcore"

edgy doesn't mean something is bad, at all. It's a series about demons, it's going to be considered edgy but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

> that's why even Atlus almost gave up on it

citation needed

>The overwhelming majority prefers Persona, it's a fact

People also preferred Angry Birds and Minecraft over a majority of well known established series. What's your point? You really want to use humanity as a scale? You sure you want to do that?

>>375840497
The only game harder than BOTW is Zelda 2. I'd rather play other Zelda games, and if that makes me a "casual", so be it.

>>375837728
It's a really big world filled with hours upon hours of the exact same boring filler content

>>375840515
>It's a good game, just not amazing
>"FUCKING CONTRARIANS!"
What?

>>375840670
There's a song called Rivers in the Desert which comes from a Bible verse while you fight the Holy Grail and on top of that you summon Satanael to kill Demiurge.

"How many devoted Sony fanboys does it take to manipulate a metacritic?"

>>375837142
Wow, looks like a game I'd like to play, but not worth $360.

>>375839971
I clearly dislike the Persona series, anyone with half a brain has already realized I didn't play it without your embarrassing slow epiphany.

Why would I touch Persona 5? What does it do better that the others have not done?

>>375837142
The low IQ of modern games journalists

>>375837142
Sounds about right.

It's weird because BotW is rather inept in certain areas like combat or shrines, but its main thing, the exploration, was done so incredibly well that I'm not bothered by it. Now if they actually made a second BotW with good combat and fun mini-dungeons/shrines/whatever, that would be 10/10.

>>375840749
>great game not amazing
Come now sweetie

>>375840563
I'm just going to make a quick comparison between the two:

Horizon shines when it comes to bosses, enemies and combat, in those regards it simply destroy Breath of the Wild, each machine you fight in Horizon requires strategy and some are quite hard, they also have varied and good movesets. Meanwhile Breath of the Wild struggles when it comes to combat and enemy design, everything is too simplistic, enemies don't have good movesets, are extremely easy to kill and in late game they are simply damage spoonges and there's also a lot of reskins.

But BotW shines when it comes to exploration and world design and the interections with that world. The quests are also better and NPCs are quite charismatic.

Both are very good games with some flaws. I would say both are a solid 8.

Critics overrating something because it's part of an acclaimed franchise.

>>375837776
Remember the "see that mountain you can climb it" meme? You can actually do that in BotW.

>>375838605
>discussion didnt last the month it got released
time and time again posters on /v/ surprise me with their stupidity.

>>375840861
>Negotiations
>Light and Dark skills are more than just insta kill
>Physical abilities use health again
>Hand crafted dungeons
>Social links all add to the gameplay in various ways

>>375841026
*unless it's raining

>>375837142
Game is like a 9.0 at best so someone been sucking Nintendo dick.

>>375840307
>Also, there's the fact that TES games are designed with modding in mind

For PC, my statement is still accurate for anything not a PC which means I'm not wrong.And even then, if I have to go "fix" the game and do shit myself, why even praise what they've done when it was the community that did stuff for free to make it better? That's rather sad.

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>>375840987
>enemies don't have good movesets, are extremely easy to kill

>>375841026
Yes. You just can't climb the cliff past the map's edge.

>>375840606
...you should play the game first, then you'd realize those are korok puzzles and not dungeon puzzles. just trying to help your shitposting i guess.

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>>375841057
>Casuals still complain about rain because they're too unimaginative to come up with ways to get around it

>>375841103
wow, he posted 1 enemy that has a somewhat nice moveset but that could be better (if he was more agressive it would actually be a hard fight)

>>375840904

This. I see BOTW as a good starting point for future open world Zelda games Nintendo just needs to expand upon it more.

>>375837142
I just recall all the 10/10's Twilight Princess received and conclude that it's fair to dismiss it.

Paya, 'mirin my aesthetics

>>375841283
hell half the time if youre quick enough you can create a fire and sit by it until the rain goes away. just to name one.

>>375841287
>Posts a counterexample
>"T-t-that doesn't count!!!!!"

>>375841103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMssxX3nQhg

>>375841034
>Negotiations

You mean what SMT has done since forever?

>>Light and Dark skills are more than just insta kill

Why? Insta kills is better in the long run.

>Physical abilities use health again

That doesn't sound like a good thing at all.

>Hand crafted dungeons

I don't even know what this is implying.

>Social links all add to the gameplay in various ways

Like what? This sounds extremely unappealing, I don't want to link to social things.

>>375837142
Reddit and the contrarian scum on /v/.

>>375841421
Yeah but it's easier to complain about it on the internet.

>>375841308
>>375840904
Honestly they need to add a few more abilities like a clawshot, etc. and make it a bit smaller and more compact. I love exploring, but sometimes it can be a bit too tedious at times.

>>375837142
Dunno. The game has a bunch of shit from old games and hasnt innovated on anything so it seems Nintendo fans are really stuck in a bubble and have no view of the gaming world as a whole. This is the type of game we have been criticising for years but Nintendo fans are just catching up with the last generations norms while still having the same underperforming hardware and some of the worst build quality for their console I have ever seen. Very weird ecosystem that Nintendo has made

>>375840861
Then shut the fuck, you obnoxious shitposter. Everyone and their moms know that gameplay and dungeons have been overhauled, "watered down" my ass. You smt idiots are some of most retarded wannabe-elitists of this site for sure, and this site is filled with wannabe-elitists.

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>>375837142
Best open world game of all time

>>375837993
MM is my favourite 3D Zelda, and I don't think BoTW is very good.
It does some aspects very well, but it feels very lifeless at times, and that's exactly where MM (and LA) excelled: They felt like actual worlds.
BoTW is just so extremely repetitious and generic.

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>>375837142
Salty sonybros desu

I say this as an idort

>>375837142
The Dead Sea

>>375841442
>You mean what SMT has done since forever?
They brought them back and they're far better than the obtuse results in Nocturne.
>Insta kills is better in the long run.
I said MORE THAN JUST, instant kill Light and Dark still exist. The MC's starting Persona is Dark type.
>That doesn't sound like a good thing at all.
What? This is the worst thing that SJ introduced, it makes no sense for Physical abilities to cost SP.
>I don't even know what this is implying.
The storyline dungeons aren't procedurally generated, don't know what's hard to get about that.
>Like what?
http://twinfinite.net/2017/04/persona-5-all-confidant-abilities-and-ranks/

You're just looking for shit to complain about while knowing nothing about the game.

>>375841539
>Doesn't convince a non Persona fan to try Persona

>Goes into an elitist rant when it actuality just makes him look ironically like a Persona elitist

You sure showed me

>>375840706
Only casuals and underage can enjoy the open empty world meme.

>>375841573
Well BotW's world gave me the same feeling as MM's, it really felt like a fallen Kingdom.

>>375841732
>open empty world meme.
It's so easy to pinpoint the people who haven't played the game.

>>375837728
It has a lot to do, but so does office paperwork.

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1. How could the industry hate Nitnendo and be "conspiring against them" if their games consistently get high scores?

2. Why would game journos like this game if they only like cinematic experiences and hallway simulators? If you claim that "a broken clock etc", then why are you willing to listen to these snakes in the grass only when they say something you like to hear?

3. Who are you to decide that Nintendo games are the only ones that somehow deserve their score?

Overall, in this modern day of gaming, I refuse to consider a game good if it gets too much praise from idiot game journos.

Link to the Past still blows this game out of the water though, no comparison.

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>>375841847
then youre an idiot. play the games and make your own decisions. by saying you dont like it if journalists do, you are just as dumb as someone who likes it just because journalists do.

thus, youre an idiot.

>>375837739
>minutes since nintentoddlers overrated one of their games.

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>>375841847
>I refuse to consider a game good if it gets too much praise from idiot game journos.

https://youtu.be/T15-xfUr8z4?t=35m8s

>>375841737
to illustrate that, when I had to go to Hateno Village and passed through the field of fallen guardians next to Hateno Fort was really magical, reading the lore from the NPCs was also really nice. Walking through Akkala Region and reading the NPCs talk about the fall of Akkala Citadel was also a really cool moment that gave life to the world in ways that not even Majoras did. And all that gets even better when you realize that all NPCs have schedules, that the live in the world. Also the destroyed cities and ruins throughout Hyrule. Also the depressive tone of some characters in regards to what happened 100 years ago, like Sidon and his father or the older Zoras that hate Link for having stolen Mipha.

BotW's World is magical.

>>375842085
In this video he says that puzzles having multiple solutions is poor design, immediately closed the video after that.

>>375837142
>guaranteed replies

I think 7.6 is pretty fair.

>>375842161
Is BotW your first open world game since 98? All that shit has been staple for ages

>>375841964
>>375842063

You think I don't play the games? How do you think I came to the conclusion that they're always wrong? thanks to the newly minted refund system on steam, I can now safely determine if they're full of crap, which they are every single time. So naturally, I've formed a precedent as a result of this; game journos are NEVER right.

Is there any way to connect your Switch controllers to your PC, I don't have any other ccontrollers and don't want to play all my steam games with a kb/m

>>375841712
>Doesn't convince an annoying wannabe elitist about trying a series that he's rabidly shitposting like a diarrhoeic kid about.
>complaining about idiotic shitposting means acting like an elitists.
No, you walking garbage, I didn't say you are a casual or an idiot because you prefer smt, I said that you are obnoxious wannabe-elitist because that's how you've acted, and among the smt fanbase there are tons of annoying trash like you.
When will you shitposters learn that trying to save face that hard can only make you look like hopeless pathetic garbage?
Inb4 another huge load of nonsensical shit.

>>375841687
>They brought them back and they're far better than the obtuse results in Nocturne.

The results in Noctourne were they would either A) Join you B) Not join and leave C) Not join you and attack D) Join you under a condition or E) Not join you despite giving them what they asked for and double cross you.

I liked that, a lot actually. And since you want to use Nocturne as an example and not IV or Apocalypse I'll let you in on a secret: they have improved it since Nocturne. I know, shocker right? They improved something since 2004. Weird.

>I said MORE THAN JUST, instant kill Light and Dark still exist. The MC's starting Persona is Dark type.

Who cares if there's most uses if the original skill was instant kills? That's like saying a game introduces handguns when you were originally using nukes.

>What? This is the worst thing that SJ introduced, it makes no sense for Physical abilities to cost SP.

It honestly didn't bother me.

>The storyline dungeons aren't procedurally generated, don't know what's hard to get about that.

Of course they have to be generated, if things were not generated then there would be nothing to go in. You're not making any sense. Are you saying that the dungeons and randomly generated?

>http://twinfinite.net/2017/04/persona-5-all-confidant-abilities-and-ranks/

>Dur hur lets you carry more personas

You mean like the ability to already carry a bunch of demons? But you have to unlock that shit? That's stupid.

>>375837361
>le entitled gamers
>If a game is bad compared to other games on the market or others that came before it then the people pointing it out are entitled

>>375837379
lol fucking pleb ur so bad at games you can't even enjoy something simple as zelda, stop playing games entirely

>>375837142

Number's are bullshit

If you like the game, good you enjoyed it

If you didnt like the game, that's fine the gameplay style isnt for you and/or the flaws bothered you

>>375842870
obvious falseflag

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>>375840563
i've never played horizon zero dawn or botw but the second i saw link surfing down a hill on his shield was the second i swore id never play another zelda game again, you cant defend that! its fucking horseshit! an then there's the weapons that break in two or three hits, you think thats a good game mechanic? you think that adds ANYTHING at all to the gameplay? when its clearly a coathanger abortion, an now lets talk about the comparisons in that vid, they are insignificant details.. the type of details the miserable autists post on /v/ like yourself use to try an justify buying a switch.. you need to get a grip an maybe grow up my sweet little child :)

>>375842524
Don't care if you think I'm casual, an idiot or walking garbage. The point I'm trying to make is Persona is nothing in comparison to the SMT series.

Stating I prefer one thing over another doesn't make me an elitist, so you can stop with that nonsense.It means I have a preference. And my preference is not the Persona series with it's generic anime nonsense.

The entire Persona series is weeb cringiness. The openings, the characters, the social interactions of attending school to even now with the whole "we're a band of thieves!" nonsense. Persona 4 was like an anime Scooby Doo with a battle system. It was just about a bunch of meddling kids unmasking who was doing the bad thing in that episode. And now we have some generic bunch of kids doing shit that more than likely has nothing to do about wars between demons and angels. Lucifer and YHVH. There is nothing Persona can offer me that SMT has not already done but better.

>>375837142
"97" "Breath of the Wild" and "Metacritic"

What's your point?

>>375843103
I know this is a troll but what the fuck is wrong with shield surfing that you felt would trigger people?

It adds a lot of cool stuff, new stuff for zelda, and has a lot to do in the environment and exploration wise. But there is typical Zelda shit missing from it, cool bosses, actually challenging puzzles, dungeons that are actual dungeons not 1 room things, etc.

It's fun just fucking around but the game is far too simple. I dunno why 3D world is allowed to be criticized for this but it's okay for Zelda.

>>375841543
says the dead guy.

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>>375841543
agreed having a fucking blast every day

>>375843358
>typical Zelda shit missing from it

Zelda games are not bound by "typical" things, all Zeldas are very different from each other and that's what makes them some of the best games ever.

I see you have a lot to learn, my dear Newfag, start by watching the Zelda reviews by MatthewMatosis

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A good but over-rated game that doesn't deserve the title of "video game that improves video game".
The hype was way too big.
17/20
Persona 5 and NieR are better.

>>375843439
Id like to see a photo of your switch please anon with a timestamp! im curious!

>>375837142

The 7.6 rating is due to PS4 neckbeard warriors who were butthurt that Horizon:Zero Dawn didn't get better reviews mass voting one on it. An hour after the game came out before anybody had a chance to really play it, it was full of people voting 1. The user score is obviously a joke. The game is a masterpiece, easily the best Zelda since Ocarina of Time.

>>375837142
hopeful for nintendo's future. if we're left with just sony and microsoft for consoles then we're fucked

>>375837142
"I wonder if that game is really good"
t. Someone who thinks all 3D Zelda games are good but nothing spectacular.

>>375843546
Go suck another dick e-celeb shitter, I got one right here

>>375837142
people will look back and disagree bc the flaws will become more apparent as time passes by.

>>375843546
>that's what makes them some of the best games ever.

And breath of the wild isn't one of those.

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>What comes to mind when you see this image /v/?

I think of this image, and that once again indie games outshine bloated AAA titles that sell on brand name instead of quality.

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@375844036
your bait doesn't deserve a (you)

>>375844036
I think it was created by a literal retard

>>375843546
I don't have anything to learn. It is missing stuff I (i.e. ME PERSONALLY) typically enjoy in my Zelda games. Thus I do not think it is a masterpiece 10/10 like a lot of people and publication say. It also feels lackluster in a lot of areas that I mentioned.

You can deal with it, or continue to not understand people enjoy different things from you.

>>375843546
hold on.. so your asking someone to watch a youtuber for his opinion? ok.. so you are a child, case closed, you shouldnt be here on here son there's bad things on this site! that shouldnt be seen by young eyes please leave!

>>375844185
Oh, the famous "everyone has different tastes" argument. No, quality in art is objective not subjective. Just watch Matosis' videos and educate yourself on the essence of Zelda games.

>>375844162
>>375844146

Man, the marketers are out in full force today.

>>375837142
Overrated by critics

there is no game that is a 10/10

>>375844371
It's not his "opinion", it's an objective analysis of the games showing the true essence of Zelda and what makes them quality games.

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>>375844396
>quality in art is objective not subjective

@375844427
still no (you)

>>375844146
>>375844546

>can't even quote other posts correctly

I suggest you lurk more.

>>375844396
>No, quality in art is objective not subjective.

That's literally wrong

>Just watch Matosis' videos and educate yourself on the essence of Zelda games.

>Watch this youtuber

>Watch this guy and not your own thoughts or feelings

>submit to the thoughts of this guy, not your own

The fuck is wrong with you? How much do you get paid to market him exactly?

>>375844396
No thanks. I know why I don't consider Botw as good a game as the majority of people say. There are flaws and things that I find in ever zelda I've played to date except for breath of the wild. Watching some guys videos from 5 years ago won't be necessary.
Grow up.

@375844632
Did I fail again ?
Tell me please.

>>375842085
wtf I hate BotW now

>>375844665
Not him but every game, literally, every game, has flaws.

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Am I being tricked?

>>375841026
You can also climb it in Skyrim, you even have to go to the very top for the main questline. This was just /v/ being retarded as always.

>>375844926
>doesn't have 1tb space in Dropbox

Yes, you're being tricked by your own stupidity in not upgrading your account

>>375844778
And I didn't imply otherwise.

>>375841520
>Clawshot
Revali's Gale already invalidates the clawshot.

>>375837458
I disagree, it deserves a 98 but it has a couple of CLICK bait reviews.

Jim Cuck and that other shite site, The sling or w/e, gave 6 or 7 to Zelda but perfect 10 to fucking Horizon lol. Not to mention that the lastest gave No Man's Sky a good review. It's a fucking joke.

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>>375837142
To update my joystick mappings on the latest CEMU so I can play it for free at 4k.

>>375844638
Most people can't do objective analysis and see the game (or any piece of art) for what it truly is, most people can't see the essence of a game or even understand why some of them are so good in comparison to others. You, me and the guy below you are those kinds of people, unfortunately we have to rely on people like Matosis to guide us and teach us when it come to analysing games. I have no shame in admitting that honestly.

>>375844665
Why are you being so defensive? Just watch his videos to expand on your vision and make you understand the true essence of Zelda because you clearly can't see it on your own. What you've been saying in this thread would be comparable to say Mozart's violin concerts aren't good because that's your opinion and because they are not like his piano concerts.

>>375837142
Legend of Zelda

>>375845251

I have a question: why doesn't Horizon deserve its scores? I'm not defending it in any capacity, but what makes Zelda better than Horizon? And I don't want to hear a single opinion.

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>>375845342

Salty Horizon Zero Games

>>375844427
Gets called a retard for posting retard shit.
>hurr it's da marketers guys!
Retard.

>>375845449
>Why are you being so defensive?

I'm not, I'm explaining my position and stance over and over again to someone not getting it.

>What you've been saying in this thread would be comparable to blah blah blah blah blah I don't get it

What I'm saying is that I didn't like a game as much as you apparently did. And I have reason for that. And you're going to have to suck it up and get over that.

I want more details regarding Hard Mode. I don't want it to only be more time spent on fights just because the enemies have bigger health and damage

>>375845342
>
That's kind of a dick move, you know that 300 people worked on this game for something like 5 years right? The old president of Nintendo even died during that time. At least buy the game even if you don't have the hardware, show some respect.

>>375837458
This

It's easily the best game to come out this year

>>375837142

Paid reviews

>>375845698

What's retarded about hating the AAA industry for bloating video games with generic casual open world games with tons of DLC?

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>>375837142
The user score tells me that not every Zelda fan thinks it's the best most perfect Zelda game ever made (it so fucking isn't), and that gives me some hope.

>>375845449
>and see the game (or any piece of art) for what it truly is

A mediocre game that's far too easy with lots of exploration?

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>>375841650
I'm an idort too. Been a huge Zelda fan since the first game. Bought a Wii U for this game and was really disappointed. I'm getting a little tired of people assuming everyone who doesn't like the game is some kind of sony shill. It's just a shitty way to deflect any criticism on everyone's "perfect 10/10" game.

I'm thinking that the user rating is brought down by super-low scores by autists who can't handle change. The game isn't perfect, but it's nowhere near a 7.8, it's the most fun I had in years and it does a lot of things extraordinarily well.

>>375846327
If you don't want to be seem as a sony shill, then post a consistent review about the game exposing where you think it's flawed in a respectful and good way.

See Joseph Anderson's review, it's well made and no one's calling him a sony shill. Faggot.

>>375846327
Why the fuck would you buy a Wii U instead of a Switch? It's one thing if you already had one, but to buy a console for it and not even buy the new console is dead stupid.

>>375846536

>See Joseph Anderson's review, it's well made and no one's calling him a sony shill.
Don't you lie to me anon. Every single person here hates him for "not supporting based Nintendo". Did you really think you could hide several thousand hate threads actively calling for DDOS'sing him?

>>375846462
How is it "nowhere near a 7.8" yet "not perfect"?
A 7.8 is not a bad score by any means.

>>375837142
Sonybros are butthurt.

>>375846787
Keep in mind that /v/ uses the same memeshit rating for the games as game journalists, where everything below 9/10 is utter garbage.

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>>375845551
Oh, horizon do deserve it's scores It's a quite great game. But I also believe, Zelda deserves their scores too.

From the top of my head, Zelda has four strong objective design choices that makes it special:

i - Almost true freedom, you can play it in any order and go almost anywhere
ii - World designed on exploration, no need of dotted lines in the Witcher or Fallout.
iii - A very interactive world in which it has a engine (besides the physics one) focused on that.
iv - Extremely responsive gameplay that lets you approach any problem in many different ways.

If you wanna know more, check this video:
https://youtu.be/vmIgjAM0uh0

>>375846690
Maybe he wanted the system with Bayonetta 2 and Tropical Freeze instead of one game

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>>375846327
I'm an idort too. Been a huge Souls fan since the first game. Bought a PS4 for this game and was really disappointed. I'm getting a little tired of people assuming everyone who doesn't like the game is some kind of PC shill. It's just a shitty way to deflect any criticism on everyone's "perfect 10/10" game.

>>375847124
Bloodborne will be playable on PC in something like 4 or 5 years, emulators of new gen consoles will not be hard to create. Try harder sony faggot.

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>>375841650
I'm pretty sure Nintentards are the worst fanbase because they pretend games like pic related are good.

>>375847086

That video is nothing more than marketing. So I discard it by default.

>i - Almost true freedom,
So where's the hard mode? I want the freedom to play the hard mode without shelling out extra money for DLC, and I can't gimp myself anymore because the game is just too easy. That's not freedom.

>ii - World designed on exploration,
Then why is it filled with nothing but garbage like korok seeds or things that casualize the main quest by making you overpowered? Where's the challenge?

>iii - A very interactive world in which it has a engine
And yet enemies refuse to learn from combat and, even in blood moons, will be completely retarded fighting you. I feel sorry for anyone who's ever actually died in this game.

>iv - Extremely responsive gameplay
Blatant lie. Enemies die too easy, there's no penalty for dying, you get to save with no consequence or work. It's the worst parts of Skyrim and Fallout all shoved into one.

Overall I see a mediocre, casual game lapped up by the idiot gaming journalists.

PLEASE, RETARDS RESIST THE URGE THE ANSWER THE OBVIOUS BAIT ABOVE, DON'T GIVE ATTENTION TO THE TROLL.

>>375847340
So why hasn't the 360 emulator done anything of note? It's running the same architecture as the Wii U so in theory it should already have most of it's worthwhile titles ready to play, just like Cemu no?

>>375847668

what's trolling about it exactly?

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>>375847492
>Calling based Mark Brown marketing.
Oh, didn't realize you were a shitty salty as fuck shitposter. Nevermind then, I said nothing.

>Feel sorry for anyone who's ever actually died in this game.
This one is funny, you should play it so you can feel sorry for yourself for all the times you are going to die.

>>375837142
Metacritic really needs to do something about review bombing, this shit is really getting out of hand.

>>375847467
Nah, man. That game is a terrible piece shit unlike zelda which is probably game of the year.

>>375848339

>Calling based Mark Brown marketing.
What's the difference between him and, oh say, game grumps or pewdiepie? Just because he says something you agree with doesn't mean that he isn't a filthy shill trying to make money.

>This one is funny, you should play it so you can feel sorry for yourself for all the times you are going to die.
1. you're implying that I don't already have Zelda on CEMU
2. If game journalists can beat your game without once complaining about the difficulty, then it is not a difficult game. Even Jim Sterling praised the combat, and you know your game is a stinker when he'll give your product a 7/10 instead of hating it.

>>375848686
I would normally ignore this kind of shitty shitposting, but I'll take this chance to post this other video of Mark Brown since I believe he deserves more views.

This is Mark Brown on StarFox Zero:
https://youtu.be/m544qfVMIPs

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>>375849540

>not even 2 minutes in
>praises the garbage gyroscope controls

And stopped watching there. I hated them in Splatoon, I hate them here.

The fact that the user score was closer to 6/10 before they deleted all the negative reviews.

Never trust metacritic.

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>>375842350
>claims he's played every single game ever reviewed
>claims steam refund helped with botw
Ok

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>>375842010

>>375837142
kino

>>375837142
It's an A+ game. Console Zelda had been in a rut for a decade and a half, and I mostly regarded them with cynicism. I'm glad it was just the games that were crap and not my outlook.

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>>375848686
>you're implying that I don't already have Zelda on CEMU
He fell for the cemu meme.

>>375846870
Nailed it.

>>375849962
Gyros are a billion times better than sticks. Not as good as mice, but still.

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>>375837142
>What comes to mind when you see this image /v/?

The image seems about right, Nintendo have a track record of schooling the rest of the industry on how to make games. BotW is their latest mic drop.

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> two months later and people still get anal pained when this game is discussed.

Really rustles the jimmies.

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>>375837142
The open-world fad was about to die off and then Nintendo shit out another overhyped turd loved by all the skyrim nu-males effectively making sure we aren't gonna see good games from nippon anymore either since they're likely to hop on open-world bandwagon now.

>>375854575
Nintendo showed everyone how to open world. Deal with it, you HBO porn loving faggot.

>>375837142
Jounalists collectively circlejerking over Nintendo's "Make Zelda Great Again", which sadly was merely a good game and not the goat they had hoped for, which was met with clear deviation as the actual product's rating is clearly reflected in user scores.

>>375855069
The user scores mean nothing. They were openly sabotaged by salty sonyfans. Never trust user scores.

>>375837142
I think it's hilarious how many people will go out of their way to talk about a game they haven't played.

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>>375854762
Three hours of actual dungeons and the rest is padded with copied shrines and dumb collectibles.

Yes, Nintendo truly showed what open-world games are all about.

>>375837142
Emulation

>>375855202
Well, you certainly can't trust the critic's scores.

>>375845794
Nah

>>375855305
You know nothing about game design, shhhhh..... go back to sleep my child....

>>375847467
What you have posted is a mediocre game let down primarily by its lack of content.

>>375855202
For every troll giving the game a 0/10 there are two rabid fanboys giving it a 10/10 after playing for two days.

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>>375855305
The biggest bulk of the game should always be the best thing the game does.

Take Persona 5, 80% is spend doing social links and interaction and the remaining 20% is those awful designed dungeons.

BotW should've been 80% dungeons and soty and the remaining 20% open-world exploring like it used to be in the older games.

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>>375837142
You could at least update the image OP.

>>375855496
Exactly, im not giving nintendofans a free pass, they've openly attacked the rating systems for sony exclusives too. They're both as fucking childish as each other. Point is; never take any notice of user scores.