Failure thread

>>375828640
>I hate videogames: the post

>>375828640
Why?

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>>375828640
At least you don't have to play as a faggy bounty hunter

>>375828640
I hope you fail your life

>>375829112
He works for Bethesda marketing, if that's not failing life I don't know what is.

>>375828640

>Dishonored 1 was amazingly fun
>Dishonored 2 was amazingly fun
>PREY Demo is amazingly fun

Yeah, not gonna flop.
Sorry bud.

>>375828640
I think so too anon. I played the demo, my favorite part was when you smash the window with the wrench

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>>375828640
>Hoping something original flops.

Why?

Is it actually good? No PC demo worries me.

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#NotMyPrey

Hope it flops like Dishonored 2 and Arkane is forced to start working on shitty expansion packs for Elder Scrolls Online

Isn't this just Mass Effect: Dead Space Edition.

>>375829880
>#NotMyPrey
more like #IDidn'tPlayTheOriginalGame

>>375829880

>Dishonored 2
>Flop

Lol /v/ never ceases to amaze me.

>>375829916
no... why do people think it has anything to do with any of the two?

#NotMyPrey

>>375828640
>denuvo
It's sure will flop good.

>>375830152
Your right, msg v, YUGE FAILURE.

Does it have Denuvo?

>>375830152
Is there any proof that Denuvo affects sales for games that implement it?

>>375830296

No, there's not.
/v/ just likes to use it as an excuse since they're all too poor to just buy a fucking game.

Hell, I just picked it up for $37 off G2A.

So essentially you hope the game is just like you?

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Do you think this will fail? I sure do hope it fails. I will instantly cream my pants if I find out this flops. The guys who made this deserve all shit they will get if this ends up being shit. Also post other games you hope will fail

>>375830256
no info on it in EULA

>>375829940
Got it at release, faggot.

>>375830358
>buying it before reviews are even out

What the fuck are you doing nigger

>>375828640
>>375829880
>hating on Arkane

Fastest way to detect a massive pleb.

>>375830826
ohh and that one was #YourPrey ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSFxiuID1TY

I'm cunning

>>375830996
They went to shit after dark messiah.

I bought this shit for $20.

>>375830996

This.

>>375831009
Yeah the one released in 2006 was #MyPrey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8mhILzaF0w

Good soundtrack

>>375831112
They're still one of the few good Western developers

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>preyfags upset that a game with the same name isn't their bounty hunter game that people stop giving a shit about years ago


stay mad

>>375831112
For being slaved to Zenimax/Bethesda, they still make very good stuff. Dishonoured is hardly Arx-tier but working within the constraints they had it's still very good.

Wish they'd gone on to make The Crossing.

>>375830358
>G2A
It's literally cheaper and more morally justified to pirate.

>>375831203
you're a faggot

>>375831287
>contradicts himself

stay retarded

>>375831312
nobody gives a fuck

>>375831287

Maybe this game will have a Tommy reference?

>>375829780
>original
I mean, yeah. But it is piggy backing off an older game needlessly. It's a weird thing to do for something that is pretty much 100% unrelated.

it looks like a decent -shock game to me
just wish bethesda didn't get money for it

>>375830996
I can't think of a single reason to hate them. Their history consists of getting fucked by Bethesda and Ubisoft

>>375831435
no, it's not related to 2006 Prey at all except in the name

>>375831330
And you have shit taste

>>375830878

>Already thoroughly enjoyed the DEMO which took me well over a few hours to fully get through.
I'm sorry I can decide if I want a game by the gameplay and atmosphere alone you autistic fuck.

>>375831312
Sorry I'm not a NEET neckbeard who has disposable income.
I don't feel like waiting several months to play a game I'm excited about.

How's that NIER crack coming along that you all keep waiting for?
Still not done?
Thought so.

>>375830296
>>375830358

Wait, if it doesn't affect sales, why does it exist?

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>video game enthusiasts who hope games flop on their video game discussion board
You Tortanic hanger-oners are the worst thing to happen to this board, I mean that genuinely.

>>375831112
dishonored games are still top tier, and nowhere as buggy as arx or dark messiah..
prey is looking promising, but im gonna wait and see how its going to be received

>>375830296
It doesn't, there is no proof whatsofuckingever that the sale of a game was affected because of Denuvo and whether they would have sold more without it because there is no way of comparing those statistics. When it comes down to it, /v/ is just like /pol/ on this regard where they will post bullshit statistics or "LOOK LOOK! some obscure dev said that it's good cause they're ""trying"" it, but I can't find where I saw this particular article right now..."

All I know is, there have been PLENTY of times where I was stuck behind Denuvo in pirating a game and decide to dish the money for games like DOOM and Warhammer, and sometimes where despite pirating a good game I decide not to buy it later because it seems almost fucking retarded to simply get something later if I'm not even going to touch it again and have it cobweb in my Steam list. It all comes down to /v/ defending their constantly broke NEET lives.

Maybe after release when Arkane BTFO's naysayers with strong reviews and strong user reviews we will have a Prey thread that's not talking about Prey 2

>>375831307
>Dishonoured is hardly Arx-tier but
I recently replayed Arx Fatalis and lets be honest here:
The game is pretty fucking awful. It has some amazing ideas shinning through at times, but it's an absolute mess on just about every practical level. Dishonored may have been a bit more "conventional", but at least its a functional game with solid and reasonably-ballanced set of mechanics.

>Prey's Raph Colantonio Says Steam's 2 Hour Refund Policy Stands in Place of Demo

>Earlier this week I had the opportunity to speak with Raphael Colantonio, Co-creative Director at Arkane Studios, about Prey. I asked him directly about the lack of a PC demo, and whether people could infer a lack of confidence in the PC version as a result.

>"It's just a resource assignment thing. We couldn't do a demo on both the console and on the PC, we had to choose. And besides, PC has Steam. Steam players can just return the game [prior to playing] 2 hours so it's like a demo already. I also want to clarify that there's no PC port. I keep on hearing 'oh they're going to screw up the PC port' there is no PC port. We do the game on PC. It's a PC game. It's a different engine to Dishonored as well. So we might have our own sets of problems, but we are of course very careful because of what happened with Dishonored 2. So we wanted to make sure the PC version of Prey is good."

>"We have always developed our games on PC, we're PC developers. The thing on PC though, sometimes it's just the wrong timing. The drivers just came out at the same time as your game, or the hardware combinations out there are so numerous that we can't test absolutely everything and sometimes that's just what it is. Bad timing, bad luck. But we've worked on it a lot. I'm not saying there won't be any problem at all, but I'm pretty confident right now."

>>375831492
If you actually had disposable income, you wouldn't be buying games from G2A.

>>375831728

>You wouldn't be buying games from G2A
>Even people with millions of dollars will still attempt a cheaper purchase of the same product

Welcome to the real world, Anon.
Only people who are dipshits with money buy the most expensive thing just because they can.

>>375831517
It MAYBE affects sales. Getting hard numbers on this stuff is extremely hard.

>>375831517
I think it was implied that they were talking about loss of sales rather than sales gained. Cus there's no doubt that sales will increase of people have no option to pirate.

>>375831707
Having played the demo on PS4 I can believe that it is supposed to be played on PC. Cause fuck those controls.

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>>375831312
>I'll take whatever excuse I can get to morally justify pirating games and being a faggot online

>>375829785
Just finished demo and had fun. Finally a good old sci-fi adventure, since SS. I will probably buy it after I finish Persona 5

>>375832042
MC is a mimick.

>>375831804
I don't by things at full price if I don't have to.

Unlike you, however, I'm not a thief.

My prediction(source out of my ass) its gonna be a ok game.
7/10 game, its gonna do what it promises well, but won't break any new grounds or surprise in a positive way the players.

>>375831886

Elaborate?
Literally the only thing wrong with the DEMO controls was the floaty aim, which is supposedly being patched on Day 1.

Other then that, it's very, very, very common in terms of what to expect with other games like Dishonored 1/2 and Deus Ex.

>>375828640
why are you such a faggot

>>375829780
>a Bioshock clone is original
Arkane is just living off of Looking Glass' legacy while not even making games a fraction of the quality of what they were making. You know all those arena shooters that completely miss what people like about Quake? That's Arkane's games compared to Looking Glass' games.

>>375831880

>Cus there's no doubt that sales will increase of people have no option to pirate.

Is there no doubt?

>>375832002
Pirating games is not morally justified.

Buying games from G2A is less morally justified.

>>375832119

Thief?

Lololol
Are you one of those faggots that think G2A is somehow NOTHING but stolen keys?
Just because someone purchased a key cheaper from their region and then sold it to me doesn't = theft, you autistic fuck.

>>375832230
why do you come in every Prey thread? if you dislike Arkane so much why even bother coming to these threads?

>>375830296
It affects sales in the opposite way that devs want. The majority of Denuvo games sell really poorly, at least on PC.

>>375831707
>it's a pc game
>so we decided to make the demo on consoles

I get the whole Steam refund thing and I actually liked the demo but this was a weird thing to say.

>>375832230
>A bioshock clone is original
>A system shock clone clone is original

Bioshock wasn't original in any shape or form either, you fucking moron.

>>375831693
I didn't realize Assassin's Creed guard detection system was a set of reasonably balanced mechanics for a "stealth" game.

>>375831693
>It has some amazing ideas shinning through at times
Such as?

>it's an absolute mess on just about every practical level.
Care to explain why on any level?

I'm curious.

>>375832350
No, it isn't. You can't refund digital games on console, atleast not on the PS4.

>>375828640
Why do you hate Arkane Studios? They have nigh always delivered great games.

Did they fuck your mother and call you a pansy or something? You know what? Fuck it, I'm preordering right now.

>>375832230
It's a style. It's not copyrighted. No need to be mad about it. No one got mad at Heretic being released after Doom. At least it's different from the CoD/Halo clone swill that's been popular for the last decade.

>>375832337

>The majority of Denuvo games sell poorly, at least on PC.
>Cited absolutely nowhere because it's false

>>375832501
op is a cunt, ignore him

>>375832289
he must proselytize because his truth is the supreme truth

>>375831151
there's always some faggot in a game thread that claims he bought something on release for some stupidly low price, and everyone knows he didn't

we all wonder why he has to lie about it every time

you're that faggot

I honestly see no reason why this game won't be a 9/10 or higher and winning some awards. Bioshock did all that and wasn't an original game. Prey looks like Bioshock with more beef on it.

>>375832283
I don't believe that no, of course some keys a legitimate

That doesn't change the fact that G2A is still a scummy hive and conveniently gives actual thieves a platform to sell keys.

>>375832501
>Arkane
>Great games
Fastest way to detect a plebeian

>>375832630

>Gives thieves a platform to sell keys
So does Kinguin
So does Ebay
So does Amazon
So does Craigslist
So does cd-keys
So does greenmangaming
So does literally any website that you can buy a digital code that a retail store or STEAM.

Your argument is fucking shit, kid.

>>375832478
>buying digital on consoles

I really fucking hope you guys don't do this.

>>375832426
I never said it was. I dislike Bioshock but making a clone of a clone is fucking retarded.

>>375832289
I liked Dishonored but the more I play it the more I realize how much of a missed opportunity it was and how watered down it was compared to Thief. Then Dishonored 2 comes along and they don't even bother to make a decent PC port of their game. I want Arkane to be good but it just isn't happening and yet people are saying they're the rightful successor of Looking Glass despite them making severely watered down versions of LG's games. They've already hit the tipping point and I'm just enjoying watching them seemingly crash and burn because of it.

>>375832549
Not him, but while I don't think Denuvo causes games to sell worse I do think it has hardly any impact on game sales at all.

>>375832230
There's nothing wrong with being a clone of a game that came out 12 years ago.
Every game is a clone of something, generally of something a lot worse

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>>375832526
Except nobody got mad at Heretic being released after Doom because it actually broke grounds by implementing things that Doom didn't have like an inventory system with many different useful items to progress and survive in levels, and a power system that provides alternative fire to your weapons, you fucking nigger.

It wasn't just a crappy knockoff similar to what this game is looking like.

>>375832630
MUH AMBIGUOUS CD KEY THIEVES! THEY STEAL THEM BY THE MILLIONS!

>>375832607
this.
if the ultra watered down system shock in water aka bioshock was very well received and considered one of the best games ever made..
i don't see how prey isn't going to be the same.

>>375832820
>haha watching a good developer in this day and age die is so funny xddd

Immature child. Arkane's game aren't LG quality and will never be but atleast they're trying.

>auto aim
>aliens speak perfect english
>outlines targets
>generic fps

Honestly looking back the only thing good about prey 2 was the setting. And no don't go buy prey2017.

>>375832464
First of all, it was not a stealth game. Second of all, I know that you people don't really follow or even connect these kinds of things, but when they changed the guard detection system for Dishonored 2, it caused a massive backlash and was one of the main reasons why the game got ultimately so much negativity (right after the poor PC port), suggesting that yeah: the system works.

>>375832476
>Such as?
The whole magic system was pretty great in theory (though ruined by poor detection system, the idea was neat and The Void later proved that it can work really well). The deep interaction systems, where the player could do things like actually cook by combining individual ingredients and then use those skills in solving puzzles and problems were again, on paper, fantastic. The setting was interesting for sure too. In general, it did a good job creating sense of immersion and presence within the game world.

>Care to explain why on any level?
Well, the ballance is completely and utterly screwed. Like pure casting path basically giving you a spell that can one-shot every enemy in the game roughly 20% into the game. Except for SINGLE encounter in the game where you fight a completely magic-resistant boss. Of course, you can't skip or avoid the encounter.

The level design is insanely bad, with some of the most confusing, ugly, poorly laid out dungeons I've ever seen. Entire sets of mechanis exist for ONE puzzle or encounter. The story is painful and so is every character. Melee is incredibly awkward, and so is actually casting and ranged combat.
It's all just a giant mess, systems either don't work as they were intended, or are incredibly clumsy to use.
You can see how good ideas they had, but basically none of them is implemented in a way that would actually really benefit the game in the long run. It's... just painful to play through at times.

You have to admire it, but it's impossible to enjoy it.

>>375832549
Check numbers on steam spy.

>>375832675
>Arx Fatalis
>Dark Messiah
>Bioshock 2
>Dishonored series

All fucking good games, only thing that bothered me was the horrendous performance of Dishonored 2 on PC.

>>375832736
These sites usually have some sort of quality control. Game companies aren't targeting these sites because they usually shut down actual thieves when they find them.

G2A is being targeted, because they have no quality control, and most likely encourage key stealing.

>>375833073
>>auto aim
Consoles are irrelevant
>>aliens speak perfect english
That's because the aliens are humans, did you not pay attention?
>>outlines targets
Disable it
>>generic fps
What

again, more misinformation kek

>>375833127
>it was not a stealth game
Oh you can say that again

>>375832607
>>375832921
same.


Prey looks like it's going to be awesome.

>>375828640
They have spent an unbelievable amount of money on advertising, there is no way this game now won't be a failure.

>>375833205

you wouldn't know a good game if it stepped on your balls boyo

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>>375832602
He probably bought reverse engineered ps4 account. Thats how I got Nioh for 12$ few days after release.

>>375833205
>arkane didn't make bioshock 2

>>375832230
>Bioshock clone
It's System Shock 2, not Bioshock. And it's got a lot of fresh ideas behind it. There's a big boss alien who hunts you more aggressively the more powers you get, you can float around the entire space station from the outside, the powers look interesting and the game is selling itself on its gameplay freedom.

That, and it's an fps/rpg focused on exploration, and those almost always turn out good. System Shock 2, Bioshock, Singularity, Deus Ex - games in that vein have a tendency to be great.

>>375833226
Couldnt even argue about the setting being the only saving grace.

>>375833534
because I agree with that the only thing good about Prey 2 was the alien cyberpunk setting

>>375833345
>They have spent an unbelievable amount of money on advertising

Really ? The game don't have any advertising I wonder where the money went.

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>>375833607

>>375829000
I think Boba Fett would be a cooler character if he looked like that. Imagine that creepy child-molesting looking fucker stalking you with a wrist flamethrower. Jesus.

>>375832856
>fly and look up and down even though you never needed to

woooow

>>375828640
no true vidya gamer wants this game to fail. what happened to human head's game is very sad but atleast this doesn't look too bad.

>>375829989
It sold less than the first, it was a flop.

>>375833901
I still don't know anything about this game, care to enlighten me?

Come on, we all know that this was Bethesda's attempt at cementing themselves on the SS horror survival genre shelf so they can be among the big boys. Big boy companies like 2K and EA were publishing these games and have been major successes knocking on SS's success, now Bethesda wants to be alongside them.

>>375833265
>Oh you can say that again
Maybe, next time do basic research about the title before playing it and blaming for not being the same genre you wanted it to be?

>>375829880
>#NotMyPrey
good, that game was ass

>>375834173
hmmm I haven't been paying that much attention either senpai. from what I saw it reminds me of shock games and half life so I will keep it on my radar.

>>375833835
>Forgetting about a portable healthkit that wasn't implemented in any of these games like the quartz flask.
>Forgetting about the spell that is an turns enemies into chickens around you.
>Forgetting about the item that teleports you around the map.
>Forgetting about the time bombs which was the equivalent of a grenade.

Nice strawman you fucktard.

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Not going to buy it but I am eager to see if this is true or not

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>>375831435
No Tommy, No Blue Oyster Cult

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>>375835315
Jesus Christ i fucking hate Pete Hines

>>375828640
Ya no
This will probably be the best thing this year

>>375833607
>I wonder where the money went.

>>375828717
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>>375829940
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>>375836010
>Reflexively crying shill

>>375828640
I'm thinking about buying it, depending on what it looks like when it launches, but I'm not going to make a prediction about its viability.

>>375828640
Op is the biggest failure here. Just neck yourself

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>>375836010
>any opinion I don't like belongs to paid marketers
pathetic echo chamber faggot

So who here played Arx Fatalis with Arx Libertatis 1.2? It's almost like a completely different game, works, looks and plays so much better.

>>375837171
Would you recommend it for someone who hasn't played it yet or no mods on first playthrough?

>>375837291
I'd say it's pretty much required since it improves the spell detection, UI/game resolution, removes a lot of bugs etc.
You can get it here: http://wiki.arx-libertatis.org/Development_snapshots

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>>375836705
95% of the posts in the previos threads were ruthless criticism. And now 3 days before release SUDDENLY everyone is licking Arkane ass. Really makes you wonder, huh?

>>375829780
Its not really original. We've had countless games like it a long time ago like Bioshock or System Shock, or numerous other indie horror games on Steam. What would be original is if they released Prey 2, theres still a severe lack of space bounty hunting games.

>>375828640
Dead Rising 4 failed. Capcom thought that appealing to a wider audience would earn them 2 million copies and the game didnt even sell 1 million.

Day-1 patch notes are out
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/prey-day-one-patch-will-fix-a-number-of-bugsissues-full-release-notes-revealed/

This is why Bethesda doesn't do pre-release reviews anymore I guess.

>>375837938
>ruthless criticism
I seem to recall several threads where it was mostly shitposters crying the lame/false BIOSHOCK CLONE claim, while everyone else was telling them to shut up and explaining not only why that wasn't the case, but why Prey is actually good
Take off the blinders, anon. People besides edgy contrarians like you actually exist

>>375838342
>This is why Bethesda doesn't do pre-release reviews anymore I guess.
or because their games are utter shit

>>375838342
>Nullwave Transmitter now works on Apex tendrils
Typhon last boss?
They never mentioned any Apex.

>>375838498
It's only shills who were referring to Bioshock/SS calling the game it's spiritual succesor. Meanwhile prey sucks big daddy's balls in every aspect

>>375838986
>prey sucks big daddy's balls in every aspect
I agree. Good thing that PREY isn't related to Prey.

>>375839152
>Good thing that PREY isn't related to Prey.
Nice memed, my friend. Still not an argument though

>>375839320
>Still not an argument though
Which is funny, since you never provided one. Not even him.

And how is that a meme on his part? He's absolutely right, Prey 2006 and Prey 2017 are unrelated.

>>375839320
I played Prey and it's a very bad FPS that feels like it was made by people who didn't understand what makes FPS games fun, they just saw some Doom footage and thought "we can make this, but more Cronenberg". You can't die, most enemies are insanely boring, the encounters with them suck balls. The story is hilariously insane (easily the best part, though), characters' actions make no sense, some environments and gimmicks are cool (gravity pathways are super-cool but they never do any really fun battles with those) but they don't carry game on their own.

I have serious doubts a game made by fucking Arcane could be a bigger screw-up.

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Is it even really bad if it is a bioshock clone? I liked the bioshock series, so it'll probably mean I'll like this too.

>>375828640
Those shadow headcrab enemies you fight in the demo are boring as all hell.

>>375839996
It's retarded since Bioshock was a System Shock clone and this is a follow up to System Shock.

D-Do any of you actually play video games?

>>375839626
>I played Prey and it's a very bad FPS that feels like it was made by people who didn't understand what makes FPS games fun
Human Head always had a very specific pattern to their game development. They always started by providing very impressive screenshots made in what ever was the currently available engine. Then they started making big public announcements about list of incredibly cool sounding features, fantastic technology, clever "gimmicks" that would make the gameplay look really interesting and variend. As the hype grew to insane degrees, they would release a demo that would blow everyones mind completely, proving everything they promised exists.
And then, when they released the game, it turned out to be an absolute pile of shit. With terrible balance, insanely dragged out pacing, insulting narrative, all of the gimmicks being actually disfunctional and poorly integrated into the actual game - all around just terrible games. They had an amazing talent of making all the things that sound incredible and felt incredible in the demo insufferably boring in the actual full game.

This happened to Rune, it happened to Prey, and there is plenty of indication that that was precisely what was going on with Prey 2. I have no idea how and why people defend that company (by the way, after fucking up Prey 2, Human Head worked only on two other major gaming projects: they provided much testing an ballancing for Brink, and much of level design, encounter design and combat ballance for Bioshock Infinite. Seriously the guys never worked on a game that would not turn out to be a pile of shit) or why anyone ever assumed that Prey 2 wasn't going to be yet another terrible, overhyped dissaster waiting to happen.

I don't know if Arcanes Prey is going to be any good, I guess I won't know unless it actually gets good reviews and then go on for a big sale either.
But my god, the weird boner for Human Head around here completely baffles me.

I'm interested in it from the demo, but the demo was so potently awful that it made me cancel my preorder. I'll just rent it from redbox on friday, if it's good, i'll play it to completion. If it's not, oh well, only $3.

>>375840267
Honestly I really hate to shit-talk people like that when I don't know the full story and what I know suggest they did have problems with Bethesda. But the final product, meaning Prey 2006, is just so impressively... wrong. Your "terrible balance, insanely dragged out pacing, insulting narrative, all of the gimmicks being actually disfunctional and poorly integrated into the actual game" quote is harsh, but it describes my experience with Prey 2006 perfectly.

I think the only other games I've played that felt like "FPS designed by people who never played FPS" were Hard Reset and, to lesser extent, Shadow Warrior reboot, both by Flying Wild Hog. But god knows I had more fun with HR than Prey 2006 - at least in HR you can fail.

>>375833012
>poor man's Looking Glass
>good studio
They had potential but they're firmly in the mediocre console dev territory.

>>375838498
>He doesn't remember the part in Bioshock where you turned into objects as a stealth mechanic or solved environment puzzles with a glue gun

lol

It might turn out to be shit but I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt for now.

>>375840719
Hard Reset was pretty crude, Shadow Warrior 1 had a lot of flaw too (the second game is actually, I belive, one of the best and most underappreciated shooters of the recent history though - even if it really isn't design to appeal to most people and has some fundamental design issues). I think both were better than Prey 1 though, even if Hard Reset may actually be a pretty decent comparison point.
I remember Prey 1 being one of the most painfully boring and slogged out game I've ever completed. I don't even know why I finished, I think at the time I just wasn't as willing to give up on a title. And the story... oh my god. You said it's insane and at least entertaining. But I still fucking remember that scene where you are supposed to kill your girl-friend, and how the game presented that whole sequence without a fucking trace of irony or self-awareness, and it still may be one of the most insulting, hideous scenes I've ever seen in a game.

I like flawed gems, and I usually go pretty far to find something good about titles. Hell, I'm defending Shadow Warrior 2 here - and that games requires digging pretty deep to find it's virtues. But Prey 1 was just awful.

And I was there. For the hype, for the previews and interviews, for the demo and the reaction to it. Hell, it dragged me in so much that I forgot how much burned I got with Rune few years prior.
These guys were assholes. And while I don't know the whole story between them and Beth, I do know for a fact that they are, at least in some respects, lying through their teeth in their version of the story.
And considering its a company that has not been honest with their audience once in their history, and who described every single one of their own games as AMAZING TITLES THAT REVOLUTIONARIZE THE INDUSTRY (Prey 1 and Rune included), I know that you could not belive a fucking word they say.

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Prey bros where whu wat?

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>>375841601
Yo

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>>375841601
I ordered the physical version because I wanted the steelbook and soundtrack CD.
Don't think I'll get it before release.

>>375841601
Still considering whether I should get it or not
The demo really drew me in, but I can't really justify the purchase yet

>>375841601
>$6 or $7 off on psn preorder
>$18 on my account I would use for shitty dlc

I don't fall for the preorder meme but I really enjoyed the demo minus the wonky controls, which are being fixed, and having new vidya to play over the weekend while there's a storm sounds comfy.

>>375841798
>steelbook

Haven't heard anything about a Steelbook edition. I have a huge chub for them and will definitely go physical if that's the case.

>>375828640
Initially I hated the premise of Prey, but after playing the demo, I will probably get it. The atmosphere and visuals are great and the Mimic gimmick has some serious potential. If they don't fuck the story, and they have some nice enemy variety, it'll be a day one purchase.

>>375842049
It's select retailers only I believe. Game in the UK Amazon in DE and I think Best Buy for US.
Also in Spain there's a store that gives you a free transtar mug.

>>375841698
Poppa bless.
>>375841798
That's always a pain in the ass. Didn't do Amazon? They're usually fairly decent about sending shit early so it arrives on release.
>>375841908
Honestly even though I've enjoyed all of Arkane's games and all the System Shocks and the first two Bioshocks, I still probably wouldn't have preordered if I wasn't getting gray market price. $35 is a comfortable gamble, $60 is for shit I 100% know I'm going to want to go balls deep in.
>>375841936
Does PSN have a refund policy? That way you're at least covered if it shits the bed.

>>375841337
Prey does feel like a slog despite being a pretty short game, I think it's because the shooting is so boring. Your main enemy are those ugly alien fucks who look like the most generic evil humanoid alien imaginable - Mangalores from Fifth Element, aliens from Duke Nukem, those guys are a bit of those, a bit of that, have braindead AI and shoot you with assault rifles that sometimes function as snipers. And they have alien dogs who are pure melee. That's what you fight for like 90% of the game, it's like Doom 3 and endless imp encounters except somehow even worse - Prey made me actually appreciate Doom 3, which is no small feat. And then there's the whole flying sequence which has one bright spot that has nothing to do with gameplay - you see some kind of miniature star being used to power something.

The story is completely amazing, though. They start it by throwing a bunch of problems you don't fucking care about because you don't care about characters (yet, and probably ever). Then there's a melee combat introduction, where a bunch of racist redneck parodies tries to rape (?) your gf so you beat them to death with a wrench. Each redneck takes like 10 wrench hits, too! Then finally the game opens in a neat scene which is honestly the highlight of the game and then you meet ghosts of dead kids (who you have to shoot for some reason), your DEAD father offers to teach you some mystical shit but Tommy says he "doesn't have time for these superstitions" WHILE BEING DEAD AND TALKING TO YOUR DEAD FATHER IN AN AFTERLIFE, you rescue your gf with some local Rebel leader who is dressed in a stripperific and very impractical dress, then a guy who can make portals attack and you LEAVE YOUR GF YOU JUST SAVED BEHIND without any protection... God, and the ending where the boss reveals she's an American Indian and offers you to join her or something, and Tommy yells "I AM A CHEROOKEE WARRIAH"... You can't make this shit up.

>>375841337
And wrt the Bethesda/HH conflict, I admit I'm a bit biased about Beth, being an Obsidiot and all. And there's been rumors about them treating the people behind Dark Corners of the Earth poorly (which is a broken and kind of shitty game that nonetheless has some of the best Lovecraftian atmosphere and setpieces I've seen in a game like that).

>>375828640
I'm just sad I don't have my cyberpunk PREY 2 desu

>>375842409
Nope, Xbone is getting them and I can only presume Sony will follow as long as there isn't a major backlash.

PS4 performance was fine other than what's being fixed, and I watched the stream for a bit, think I'm just gonna bite the bullet.

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I played Prey a couple weeks ago because it was sitting on my backlog and I thought I'd take it out before playing the new one. The people who act like Prey was an amazing game are nostalgia-fagging hard. So much of Prey 2006 is straight up tedious. I swear you have to do sequences like this OVER and OVER again

>Oh no I'm blocked by a Force Field
>Gotta Spirit Walk through it and then pretty the terminal to turn it off

>Oh no there's no way to get further
>Oh I have to activate the terminal and then that will activate the gravity walkway

>I'm blocked by a password
>I have to turn on Spirit Walk and then find the numbers that's written down in the level

Again and again. The best things about Prey is that it works fine with modern hardware and some of the guns are fun to use. It's also the most casual game in existence since the dying has no penalty, enemies don't even gain back health after you kill them.

Yeah I would have liked to have seen Prey 2 with Alien Bounty Hunting but it looks like Arkane has made a new Spiritual Successor to System Shock so sign me up since I love System Shock.

>>375843656
>enemies don't even gain back health after you revive.
Fixed.

>>375840794
Have you seen a game studio post, let's say, 2010 even come close to what Arkane is doing? The 90's are gone, and so are Looking Glass Studios. In this day and age, I'd much much rather have a watered down but still good LG game than anything else that's on the market.
Games like the ones Looking Glass did won't work today because it's a catch 22 situation -- entitled gamers won't pick them up unless they look good, and they won't look good and also have good gameplay, good story etc. unless the studio is well funded. The money won't come unless it's appealing to the masses, in one way or another, and Looking Glass' games are too hardcore for the average gamer today. It was cheaper to develop games in the 90's.

>>375844601
Otherside Entertainment :^)

>>375842551
>You can't make this shit up.
When I played the demo, which essentially showcased the bar opening and then some of the shrinking, gravity play and portal-opening technology, I genuinelly though the game was a parody. I thought was like a spiritual sequel to Redneck Rampage.

My problem was, as I played the real thing, the realization that they are, actually 100% percent fucking serious with this shit. Like the children shit. It was SO PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that this was a completely genuine idea of some braindead fat nerd thinking this will blow everyone away. And it just went on and it played itself with a straight face and often frankly disgusting naturalism and obsession with gore and violence that I'd be entirely OK with if it was not... actually presenting itself to be serious. I'm not easily disgusted by a game, Prey was one of the few that did actually make me feel slightly sick. I think the only other that managed to do the same was Duke Nukem Forever at one point, and even then it was much more tolerable.

Like: they actually fucking tried to jerk tears and shock out of that killing your GF scene. It was so fucking disgusting and stupid and they still tried to play it straight.

It wasnt even boikers. It was stupid, sure, but it was not crazy completely out there stupid. More of a "we are incompetent tasteless fucks but we are still damn sure we are blowing everyones mind with your serious space drama" bullshit.

But you know, what ever. Story is not what ultimately condemned the game. It made a huge negative impression on me, but it wasn't why I despise the game.

The incredibly boring gunplay was. And I remember the game to be very, very long. Like, HL2 long or even longer. Maybe my perception was distorted by the rigor-mortis like state of boredom the gunplay got me into though.

Remember the vehicle sections? People complainted about vehicle sections in HL2, but I just remembered the vehicles in Prey and felt riveted by Water Hazards.

>>375844757
I'd gladly see Arkande get dethroned if SS3 turns out to be great. In the meantime, I've been enjoying Dishonored 1 and 2 and will soon enjoy Prey, since nothing else has come close in the past decade.

>>375844942
I don't know, it didn't feel all that gross to me. That's the funny part - they banked on space gore horror thing, but I feel like even Quake 4 did it better (a game I actually liked for all its faults). Vagina/orifice doors were done by System Shock 2 in 1999. They were probably supposed to be one of those "wow isn't that GROSS" moments but for me it felt more like "hey I remember playing System Shock, I liked that game, it had a wrench too, wow".

I don't think HL2 is long, in fact I remember it being short was one of complaints when it came out. And yeah, I mentioned Prey's vehicle sections. They were ass.

>>375829621
Dark Messiah was amazingly fun too

Arkhane delivered Dishonored 1 and 2, and by today's standards, their level design and visuals blew me away. The demo went in the same direction, so it's day one purchase for me.

>>375828640
Kys

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>>375832289
he probably cant run dishonored 2 on his toaster, so the most logical thing he could do (instead of working) is shitposting 24/7

>>375845408
I wasn't grossed by the vaginas - I found them without any actual context like the ones in System Shock hillariously stupid, but not offensive in any way. What bothered me was the violence against children and women, to a point where the game completely needlessly forces you to be the one pulling the trigger on your supposed love interest. I don't have a systematic issue with either of those things: I don't think there should be a blank taboo on anything in any medium, but if you are going to do something that is this disgusting, justify it by some context.
Instead, they included those segments purely and exlusively because they were edgy. And when you are using this disturbing imagery purely to showcase how edgy you are, that is annoying me. Maybe "being offended" is not the right phrase, it's just "after this, I have zero respect in the author" thing.

HL2 was pretty damn long for its time, and incredibly long for todays standards, actually. Maybe the memories got muddled, or you had some odd expectations at the time, but it was a pretty crazy long game and surprisngly varied, as for its lenght, it really switched tone and pacing and mechanics up regularly to rarely ever make you feel like its dragging on.

In terms of pure game lenght, it was about as long as FEAR, but it felt three times shorter simply because it wasn't so padded up.

>>375847854

I completely agree with you. Edgy autists can get pretty irritating when writing stuff.

>>375828640
It won't flop but it won't break any records. Most people don't even know the fucking thing exists

>>375848210

Most people would get stuck when trying to scape the apartment.

>>375848479
I'd be fucking shocked if Prey got a sequel

>>375828640
>Is it gonna fail?
Yes
>Will it be bad?
Probably not

>>375849157

Me too. My point is that Prey isn't a mainstream production.

>>375849281
yup. and that's sad

>>375849378
fuck...I can already see the Prey shitposting
>this amaaaaaazing game releases and you guys are still playing stupid shit like nier and zelda reeeee
>why aren't you playing this hidden gem?!?!?!

>>375847854
Eh, the vaginas have pretty much the same context, the Sphere is a techno-organic mess, and they plop out some kind of monsters, I think the rocket launcher ones? I feel like defending Prey a bit since if there's anything I liked about it, it's a lot of Sphere environments. They repeated a lot, but some of them were genuinely cool.

I wasn't really bothered by "violence against children and women" or edginess. I mean, I have pretty high tolerance for edginess. Like, something like Hatred where your goal is explicitly killing civilians with gruesome executions might raise my eyebrow, but in Prey you're killing ghost kids (with real guns... somehow) and they just pop out, and gf fight is hard to take seriously. I think the thing that offends me the most about it in retrospect is how boring and safe it is - it's just the upper part of her model stuck inside some large monster with double machineguns. Even her clothes are intact! Honestly, if I were to give the game a "feminist critique" for some reason, I'd target the rebel leader outfit first. What the heck was that.

In the end, though, bad/mediocre writing in an FPS game just doesn't bother me all that much. The thing with Prey is that it's more like completely batshit writing, where evil aliens drive their dropships into American Indians' spirit realm to... kill the dead people? What? How?

>HL2 stuff
I like HL2, but I don't love it. I feel like it's shorter than HL1 or quite a lot of FPS that came before. And I was influenced a lot by Far Cry when I played it, which still is one of my favorite FPS to this time. It's also really damn long and hard, with a strong core gameplay and little gimmicks/deviations form it, an opposite of what HL2 is.

>>375849745

Maybe it will BE a hidden gem.

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>>375849281
>tfw this will most likely be the end of arkane
now that they're gone, dues ex flopped and put on hold, system shock remake is looking like shit so far, and we haven't seen anything from ss3
it was fun while it lasted

>>375849897
It's possible but I wouldn't hold my breath. Then again I guess that depends on what your definition of a hidden gem is

Yes, but it might not require the amount of sales /v/ thinks it will. I think if this breaks 1 million in 2-3 months it would be considered a success.

Loved the first game

Loved the trailer for the sequel that got shitcanned

Saw this new game they're working on

>u can learn the abilities of aliens and one of them is shapeshift so you can look at any object like a mug and spontaneously become it

What in the fuck are they thinking

>>375849985

There is a chance of Prey being a moderate success thanks to the mouth to mouth. Happened to the first Deus Ex HR and Dishonored.

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>>375828640
>my life is shit and I want others to fail

Here OP, I found the right book for you

>>375850118
yeah that's just so unrealistic

unlike the first game where you shoot ghost kids with real guns and then they kill you but you get to spirit realm and just shoot some stuff with a bow and go back as good as new

>>375850118

Fun and interesting gameplay mechanics?

>>375850118
I agree the fucking mug wasn't the best way to show the ability off.
>you can be a mug! cool right? RIGHT?!!?

maybe if they showed you becoming a turret or something better

>>375828640
What did the devs/publisher do wrong this time? Seems like every time a new game comes out we're supposed to be angry at them for something

>>375850338
That was cool, this is fucking retarded, are you serious

>>375850405
the name. that's it.

>>375850405
the games nowadays are made by teams of hundreds of people

at least one of them is gay, SJW, nigger or something

>>375850442
like I don't even fucking know anymore

>>375850537
what the fuck? I hate gaming now

>>375839996
It isn't a Bioshit clone. Bioshock was a streamlined version of SS2 while nu-PREY is a much more faithful successor to SS.

>>375850391
I don't like how you can just magically learn some magical abilities aliens have

There is no way an alien could shapeshift into a fucking inanimate object like that, this is just so fucking far from logic and mythology or even good sci-fi, when the original prey was an extremely tasteful mix of established and somewhat plausible sci-fi ideas and mythos

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>>375850405
Bethesda is in the wrong for using the name when they could have made this a new IP and after they canned PREY 2 (and mistreated Human Head). Arkane is just doing what Arkane do (which is great work) but I've learned in the past 2 weeks that there is a very vocal hatred for Arkane games that I didn't know existed here.

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>>375850797
>the original prey was an extremely tasteful mix of established and somewhat plausible sci-fi ideas and mythos

>>375850639
yes, bioshock doesn't even have an inventory.

>>375851005
Yes, artificial gravity and portals are much more interesting and believable than le learn magic abilities magically and shapeshift into anything

>>375850797
I wasn't aware there was a code for what is and isn't plausible FICTION.

>>375828640
I loved the first Prey game. It's relatively overlooked and underrated, in my opinion. This game could be great, as well.

>>375851212
shooting kids ghosts with guns

going to spirit realm every time you die

spirit walking, spirit animals

aliens literally invading spirit realm on dropships

I don't think even the authors understood wtf is going on in that game

Would someone kindly explain why Prey has such a following? It was a pretty looking idtech4 game and has an unconventional protagonist. What the fuck else did it really have going for it? This all feels like manufactured outrage.

>>375828640
HOLD UP !

why

>>375851550
The "outrage" comes from the cancelled Prey 2 game that was infinitely more compelling than the first one.

I still think it's absolutely retarded how much people care though.

>>375851294
Science fiction tends to become real as technology progresses, when it isn't written by dipshits

>>375851778
Is there anything more plebeian than people who insist on only the hardest science fiction being "real" science fiction?

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>>375851778
Wrong.

>>375851682
>infinitely more compelling than the first one.

It was advertised as No Man's Sky. They decided not to make it.

/v/ are literally too dumb and immature to put 2 and 2 together

>we almost had a game where we track aliens across all these different high tech planets as a bounty hunter!!

Yeah, that was going to happen.

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>>375851212
>much more interesting and believable than le learn magic abilities magically and shapeshift into anything

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Clarke's Thrid Law)

"Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God."

"Any sufficiently advanced idea is distinguishable from mere magical incantation provided the former is presented as a mathematical proof, verifiable by sufficiently competent mathematicians."

"Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.

"Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!"

"Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it."

Aliens, advanced science and technology ARE magic, you fucking retard!

>>375852385
The funny part is, there's gameplay footage you can find. It looks pretty linear and not very exciting.

>>375852581
it's fake, the game didn't progress far enough to have gameplay.

>>375835315
Is this a real photo or in-game? Did whoever wrote this get in trouble?

>>375852838
there's a ton of screenshots though

>>375852940
they're fake. the game didn't progress far enough to have gameplay.

/v/ is crying over ubisoft trailers that promised them the world, basically. it's sad, because i think Prey 2 looks very compelling

>>375851682
>that was infinitely more compelling than the first one.
Except, it wasn't. Or at least there was absolutely no reason to assume that it going to be compelling.

>>375852838
OK, tone it down there. There was a gameplay demo, and the game was in development for about five years, Bethesda extended the budged and dead-lines twice before it was canceled, and there is gameplay footage as well as a pretty massive gallery of screenshots from what we presume was late alpha stage of the game that only surfaced recently.
So the game was pretty far into development and it was very likely playable, or at least had a playable prototypes.
They did look pretty bad in retrospect, and the game was massively delayed by that time and stuck deep in development hell, but something playable did exist.

>>375851682
>The "outrage" comes from the cancelled Prey 2 game that was infinitely more compelling than the first one.
the game was made by the same people who made the level design for bioshock infinite, all we saw was bullshots.

>>375853464
>5 year development
>got to late alpha
>canned

Man, so many great games get delayed and take 7 years to come out! Too Human, Final Fantasy XV, ........you get the point

>>375854341
Look, I'm not saying there is any reason to assume the game would be good. Human Head never worked on a game that turned out good, before and after, the development was clearly a nightmare even if Bethesda has been fucking them over, because we know for a fact they completely missed their own deadlines by massive margins before they even declared that bethesda is being mean to them (and they did get second and third shot, insanely enough).

I'm just saying that regardless how little respect for Human Head I have, there is no point in lying about them. The footage they provided was pretty clearly an in-game gameplay footage. Not impressive, clearly scripted and made for showcasing - especially since it followed the pre-rendered trailer to the T, but it was gameplay footage. And same for the screenshots, which by the way surfaced only a few months ago: it would absurd for Human Head to sit on them and not use them as promo materials if they were staged.

It's just about factual accuracy, really. There was no reason to assume that Prey was shaping up to be good. Frankly, the whole premise and setting was already suspect as hell. But there is also no point in declaring that the gameplay footage or the late leaked screenshots were faked either.

I really dont understand where the hate for this game is coming from. Everything seems great to me. It's exactly the system shock successor that people wanted.

>>375854881
>it followed the pre-rendered trailer to the T
Well, it showed more than those. Like the ability to see your target through walls which clearly shown that while you were dealing with mooks the target would sit in the next room instead of running away, because god forbid you actually lose your target in a bounty hunter simulator...

>>375855062
muh prey 2

altough I have a negative view on it because of bethesda and denuvo

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Reminder: Prey is the best shooter since Half Life 2

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>>375855062
>It's exactly the system shock successor that people wanted.
Except people don't want System Shock successor. Some pretend that they do, but really, even for majority of those people System Shock is a vague excuse to bitch about modern games that they never really played, or don't really want to play anything similar anymore.

People are either clamoring for dumber and simpler games, or just far more interesting in reasons to be mad and pissing their pants and righteous anger, or proving how edgy and clever they are for shitting on everything than they ever care about actual games.

People who care about games, who want to play some games, are in vast majority satisfied with games like Uncharted. People who even know names like System Shock are here just to bitch, not to actually play anything, or learn about what they could or should not play.

>>375855436
I've never seen a man use so many words and say exactly nothing.

>>375855620
This my friend, is the absolutely ultimate "I have absolutely nothing to reply to you, but somehow I'm still angry and I need to put you down even though I've got nothing".
Stop doing it. It's just fucking embarassing. If you have nothing to say yourself, don't draw attention to it, just ignore the post.

>>375852385
I can see how that would have turned out

try to find the target's location by talking to npcs or searching through a dead open world
find target in a bland copy pasted base
kill them and receive money/xp/loot
rinse and repeat

maybe I'm just jaded but I've played way too many games to hyped up by trailers and interviews anymore

>>375855436
>Except people don't want System Shock successor.
I do, hell I even want a new thief game but all devs dumb everything down since gaming is mainstream and most gamers are retarded.
And after seeing game play of Prey I can see that normies have a hard time playing this game which warms my heart.

>>375828640
It failed after it was announced.

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>tfw preordered two copies for me and a friend

Looks fun desu. What I am most puzzled about is DoW3 being top seller on Steam. What the fuck is going on??

>>375856352
RTS fans are desperate at this point.

Who cares if it fails or not? If its a good game then i will play it and enjoy it, if its not then i will simply skip it.

>>375855436
>People don't want a System Shock successor

YES I FUCKING DO. System Shock 2 and the first two Bioshocks gave me a raging hard on for fps/rpg hybrids and nobody has bothered making any worthwhile ones after those titles. Fuck your shitty 'massive open world' meme rpgs and give me a decent immersive sim.

>>375855368
that's Black Mesa footage...

>>375856971
I can get behind this. As much as I hate to jump on the open world hate bandwagon a lot of them have been underwhelming and I'd rather play on smaller better designed maps

>>375828640
>wanting things to be bad and fail
Fucking loser

>>375828640
Just bought it on steam, what are you going to do about it faggot?

>>375857086
Tell me about it. It pisses me off to no end that the industry let dungeon crawlers die.

>>375856352

>Why would the latest installment in a popular RTS franchise be selling well in its opening week?

The reviews are generally "good but not as good as the previous games" so most fans will probably buy it. I'm holding out for a demo 2bh, heard too many negative things about it

>>375857543
I was immediately turned off by the first trailer. The artstyle is a huge step down and abysmal. It looks like saturday morning cartoon style drama and not a Warhammer game.

I'm eager to play it. It's the first time I feel hype in a long, long time.

>>375856993
fuck ing jeeeej

>>375842353
Thanks for the info.