>You're so stupid Ryuji >Skull, that was pathetic

>>375809750
I want to fuck morganas cute cat butt

>>375809750
why is it a boy cat

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>>375810005

>>375809750
Yeah that arc was dumb and forced.

This series will never reach the heights of Persona 3 or 2's character drama again.

What, in the past two games, achieved even half the tension and intrigue of Amada confronting Shinji? The satisfaction from Junpei's redemption arc? Akihiko's funeral scene? I'd go on but I think that's enough to prove that these games, from a narrative standpoint, are dead

>>375810005
Post the one with his balls

>>375810005
>tfw no romance option

>>375810102
>dumb and forced
It really was, did they do it just so Ryuji could actually do something? Because I can't remember him doing anything after Makoto joins.

P5 would have been infinitely better had it retained the backpacking across the world motif

>>375809750
They give each other shit the entire game though. Ryuji doesn't just sit there and take it he insults him back.

It's also shit to go from "ha, you're an idiot m8" to "your entire existence is pointless. Why do you even hang around with us?"

>>375810305
He saved the team while they were escaping Shido's palace.

Reminder that half of the problem came from Ryuji's loud mouth

>>375809750
/v/ doesn't understand interpersonal contact, what else is new

>>375809750
Morgana's a Magician Arcana, what did you expect?

>>375811801
If you think anything in the persona games is how real relationships work then you're beyond saving.

>>375811183
Fucking this.

Thanks fucking christ he wasn't the one to run off into Mementos, though. I would've hated another Stupei. Ryuji atleast carried himself through.

>>375811183
Ryuji is the plot moving retard, no shit.
At least he isn't the plot moving and cockblocking traitor asshole. Cats suck anyways.
If there's one thing I'm proud about nu 4chan it's that it moved past the cat lovers phase.

>>375812198
>proud of being part of nu4chan

gb2reddit

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>>375809750
Dumb fucking cat

>>375810102
You mean 2 and 4. 3 was a pretty nasty valley for the characters.

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>>375809750
>everyone on the team berates ryuji for being kind of a blockhead, morgana and joker especially
>ryuji usually takes it like the friendly banter it is
>morgana starts having some pretty heavy personal issues over his lack of knowledge about who he is
>everyone tries to stay mostly comforting around him, being respectful of these issues
>except ryuji
>ryuji starts calling him completely useless, calling him a cat when he's already made it clear he doesn't hate that, it's clearly getting to morgana much more than any friendly banter
>rather than reading the mood and realizing that maybe it's not a good idea to keep doing this, ryuji keeps crossing the line and doing it
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW HE'D GET FED UP AND LEAVE
>everyone tries to fix this and apologize to morgana
>I DON'T MIND IF YOU'RE USELESS OR A CAT, MORGANA
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT WASN'T A GOOD APOLOGY

>>375812587
>dude shittalks tou all day every day
>take it without any issue, he is your friend after all
>do the same thing back to him once or twice
>he flips out and leaves claiming you hate him
>you are now the bad guy
No, fuck you.

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>>375812735
>i don't understand the difference between friendly shittalking and crossing an obvious line
Stop posting, Ryuji.

>ryuji is the designated "bro" character
>yusuke outbros him completely
All Ryuji ever does is open his mouth when he shouldn't. That's the extent of his character.

>>375812735
>/v/ is too autistic to understand that different people react differently to the same thing

>>375810668
Ryuji didn't question why Morgana hangs out with them.
He said Morgana was useless in Futaba's Palace, which is 100% objective fact.
And he said it to make Futaba feel better.
Because let's face it, Futaba at that point was a lot more fucked up than Morgana ever was.
>Ryuji doesn't just sit there and take it he insults him back
Not even nearly to the same volume Morgana shits on Ryuji.
>LITERALLY any other character misses
>oh lol, better luck next time
>Ryuji misses
>lmao, you'se useless, kill yourself

>>375809750
Doig a NG+ right now. Ruji is CONSTANTLY insulting Mona too and even call him a cat constantly despite Morgana ABSOLUTELY hating it, and he knows it. the two are exactly thesame, fuck off with your meme or replay the game, they troll each other constantly.

>>375812872
>which is 100% objective fact.
He fucking carried the healing for me, I don't know about you.

>>375812847
Hey he can run fast

I have no sympathy for morgana
Ryuuji only stated the obvious

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>>375812342
This is breddy gud desu

>>375812891
>they troll each other constantly.

because nu-/v/ can't see the cliche miles away

All I want in Crimson is the ability to tell Ryuji to shut his dumb fucking face before Morgana runs off.
Or better, the ability to
>try and comfort morgana before shit gets fucky
>clock ryuji when he keeps opening his mouth about either morgana being useless or "HE EVERYONE HOPE YOU DON'T FIND OUT WE'RE THE PHANTOM THIEVES"

>>375812823
>Morgana was just shittalking like a friend
>but Ryuji totally wasn't, especially because Morgana was such a pussy he couldn't even tell the group he was having an existential problem
Sure.

>>375813232
If we get the option to tell Ryuji to shut the fuck up, I hope we get the option to make a hat out of that useless fucking cat after Futaba's Palace.

>>375812850
when did /v/ go from
>feelings are the bearer's responsibility, no one has to change the way they are just to coddle your shit feelings
to
>wow don't be an asshole by reciprocating asshole words to an asshole
tumblr really has invaded this place

>>375813232
The Phantom Thieves entering the metaverse in public in broad daylight bothers me a whole lot more than Ryuji being a loudmouth.

Morgana is literally the most useless party member,practically a mediarama dispenser and nothing more

No, lucky punch is not a good skill

>>375813257
>Doesn't know Morgana is all prideful and full of himself from the language he use, especially to address himself

That's what you get for playing it dubbed

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>>375809750
I know right.
She constantly shits on Ryuji for the entire game and ONE time he shoots one back she has a breakdown.
This confirms that Mona is indeed a girl, and not a boy like she wants to believe.

>>375813340
Because Ryuji and Morgana aren't talking shit on 4chan anonymously. When you're friends with someone IRL, you have to consider their feelings before you start throwing insults at them.

>see Prometheus for the first time
>Kinda creepy looking, it's weird
>Actually use it
>Mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsbOOPkmEGw

>>375813412
I know he's prideful, doesn't mean he didn't pussy out when trying to talk to JOKER OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ABOUT HIS PROBLEM.
It's such a fucking insult to Joker that Morgana felt he couldn't talk to him.
Morgana was at fault for the whole shitshow.

>>375813257
Anon, he didn't really need to tell the group. Joker was pretty fucking obviously picking up on the fact that something was wrong, and if Ryuji watched for two seconds to see how Morgana reacted to Ryuji calling him useless then Ryuji would've gotten the hint really fucking quickly. Even if Morgana never outright said anything, the fact that he was having issues was BLISTERINGLY obvious. The difference between the "Ryuji, you're a dumbass." banter and "Morgana, you're dead weight." banter is that Ryuji never really reacted that badly to being called a dunce. Morgana, however, had glaringly obvious issues with being called useless/a cat, and almost everyone besides Ryuji seemed to try and avoid doing this because they know it's crossing a line.

>>375813347
I mean, same, but the game just sorta handwaves it. It's not like Ryuji's bullshit, where the game acknowledges how fucking stupid he's being for saying "MAN I'M SURE GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO BUY THIS SUSHI BY BEING THE PHANTOM THIEVES" in a crowded restaurant.

>>375813526
>Feels the most competent and most experienced member of the Phantom Thieves
>Doesn't want to show he has flaws

It's drama for drama's sake

>>375813542
>abloo bloo, Mona's fee fees get hurt from banter
Should just stay as a car 24/7.

Ryuji is alpha and Morgana is literally a pussy. Ryuji knows it's all friendly banter and that he can buttfuck all his allies with his melee moves

>>375813659
>Doesn't want to show he has flaws
>to the one person who the entire game up to that point has had his back and generally shown to be a trustworthy guy who understands the problems of a diverse cast of people perfectly, and the leader of the Phantom Thieves who Morgana knows wouldn't think any less of Morgana if he just confided in him
I don't disagree that it's drama for drama's sake, but the cat is a useless fucking retard.

>>375813391

>he doesnt use high luck stat into miracle punch

A move that can even fuck over reaper

>>375813818
There's a reason why his Confidant link goes up during that story line. Pay attention on how other Confidant rank goes up, they start to trust the protag more.

>>375813446
Mona didn't when he started shit talking Ryuji immediately when they met.

>>375813996
>they start to trust the protag more.
No fucking kidding.
You're dumber than Ryuji, anon.

>>375814034
>h-h-haha, it was just banter when Morgana started talking shit to Ryuji the moment they met, g-g-get with the times
>How dare Ryuji shittalk to Morgana, REEEEEEEEE

>>375813818
>useless
Apparently giving info on how to get the treasure to materialize in a palace, and saving them after the palace gets completed is useless. You can hate morgana that's 100% okay but he isn't useless.

>>375814249
Furfags were a mistake.

>>375814330
He is 100% useless the minute you get out of Kamoshida's Palace.

>>375814176
>explaining something to a dumbass

I know you are but what am I

I don't understand how anyone can like or sympathise with Morgana. He's literally the most irritating character in the entire game by far.

>Has an inflated idea of his own prowess
>Creepy
>Fawning over everyone except Ryuji
>Reacts with hostility to every attempt throughout the game of even jokingly mocking him

The issue with Morgana is his incredibly inflated sense or pride.

Ryujis issue is that he has difficulty seeing Morgana as one of the lads, and consistently mistreats him because he can't really see him as a person. Ryuji is at fault for this here, but holy shit Morgana is a much worse person than him when it comes to day to day life, and needs to stop taking himself so fucking seriously.

>>375814592
Holy shit! I didn't know mementos was completed during kamoshida's palace!

>>375813347
It's even worse when a main plot point used in the game is that anyone in the range of the app, that is of a good 10m, gets sucked in the metaverse and yet they somehow still manage to not pull in anyone when they use it in the busiest place in the game to get access to mementos.

Also, how the fuck did Haru manage to get to her father's palace to save Morgana in the first place? Morgana doesn't pull anyone in when he switches to the metaverse since he doesn't use the app.

>>375814751
>a car
Wow.
It's not like they can't just walk
>b-b-b-but the Reaper!

>>375812872
Are you stupid? If anybody misses he berates them? The only character he gives a pass to is Ann

>>375814941
I think it's implied that Haru got the app, anon.

>>375814941
What the fuck are you talking about. She gets him half-dead in the street in the real world.

>>375815013
>he berates them
Not nearly to the same effect the does Ryuji.
Everyone else is in the ballpark of
>that's okay, do better next time
With Ryuji it's LITERALLY
>Come on, Skull, you're useless.

>>375812983
Bu-but Makoto is better so you just don't know how to play

>>375814968
He tells them about it in the first place, and without that car they would be dead after completing a palace.

>>375815075
>She gets him half-dead in the street in the real world.
I must have missed the robots in the real world, I could have sworn the trashcan robots were only in Okumura's Palace.

>>375815013
>muh feelings idiots think that "hey, you gotta be more careful" is the same as "seriously, skull? God you are so fucking stupid!"
Morganna regularly directly insulted the guy for no reason. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

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>>375815234

What we need is actual proof of quotes instead of using quotes that fit our arguments

>>375815043
>I think it's implied that Haru got the app, anon.
Well, it's kinda shitty, it means that she instinctively knew how to use it and knew the shape of the palace (and knew it would be different from reality). It's weird they didn't really touch upon that.

>>375815075
You see her shadow appear over Morgana in the palace right after the robots decide to not kill the pussy.

Morgana is "that guy" in any friendship group that dishes out the banter but can't handle it himself.

>>375815418
The only quote you really need as proof of Ryuji being fucking stupid is the aattempted """"apology"""".

>>375814592
Yeah, they certainly had no issues in Okumura's palace, did they?

>>375814941
>how the fuck did Haru manage to get to her father's palace to save Morgana in the first place?
Pretty sure Igor at the beginning of the game explains that people with the potential can get the app

>>375815186
maybe we're not talking about the same scene then, but I clearly remind her meeting Morgana in the real world after a severe beating

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>>375812983
>Not just buying a few 200 party heals from takemi and running Makoto,Ryuji,Yusuke for that sweet damage

kys morganafag

>>375814592
he learns salvation, so... No, no he is not useless.

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>Can't date Ann's rival in her Slink

>>375815651
That's after confronting Morgana and Haru in Mementos when Haru's fiance kicks Morgana.
They'd already met long before that.

>>375815651
there was shadows and he was in his biped form when he took the beating.

>>375815706
this explains that then, thanks

>>375815663
>Salvation
>required
Lmao
Morgana by end game is completely and utterly outclassed by literally everyone.

Honestly Morgana was being a giant fucking bitch about it all.

>>375815481
Why do people keep saying this when they both did it to each other throughout the entire game?

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>>375814592

Morgana was LITERALLY a crit machine faggot and the best healer. Shut the fuck up and go to bed.

>>375815661
>Yusuke
Yeah the worst party member by end game, why not Haru?

>>375815852
You have to babysit his ass made of paper though and fuck that noise, I'd rather exploit magic instead of having to waste turns to rely on luck.

>>375815852
>make a Shiki-Ouji with Lucky Punch and Apt Pupil
Wow, it's almost like anything Morgana has, Joker can do better.
>b-b-b-b-b-but you can do x with Morgana so you can do y with Joker!
>best healer
You don't need healing when everything you encounter dies in 3 turns.

>>375815819
It looks like they don't remember it. Just like the fact that "Ryuji didn't like Morgana" when they were pretty close to each other and respected each other when it wasn't banter time or when Ryuji wasn't particularly stupid/ Ryuji wasn't busy trolling Morgana "you're a cat!"

selective memory

>>375815819
The difference between Ryuji and Morgana was that Ryuji could dish it out and take it, Morgana could only dish it out.

>>375815959
>Wow, it's almost like anything Morgana has, Joker can do better.

Now that's the most stupid "argument" I've even seen about this entire game.

>>375815959
>joker can do better
But isn't that the same for everyone?

>>375816069
Go fuck your cat hoping he's Morgana, furfag.

Real talk, was Morgana originally planned to be a female?

>>375815959
>Protagonist with access to any Persona does better job than character with one Persona
Well colour me fucking surprised.

>>375816069
>Muh bu-but Joker can do it too!

Joker can do pretty much anything better than any party member with the right setup, dumbass, what are you trying to prove here?

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>>375816196
No, but he did have a much weirder design before.

>>375816196
yes

>>375816284
Anon, I think you're confused here.
It's time to take a step back, take a deep breath, and REALLY put thought into anon's post.

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>>375816305
I think I could've liked this design if it was animated like a fucked up mix of a kingdom hearts enemy and a disney cartoon.

>>375816368
>that full body shining latex suit
We really don't need any more fuel for the furfags.

>>375816368
Now I'm not saying that's a sexy cat but that is a very sexy cat.

>>375815663
Salvation is an extremely shitty spell on a character that cannot use multiple persona, because it locks a slot for a spell that has a beyond huge SP sink (from what I remember the cost is higher than the sum of the cost of the team full heal spell + Amirita Shower for the same effect) and is a spell that you'll only want half of the effect most of the time since enemy spells either inflict a ton of damage or low damage with status effects.

If you want his SP to survive without drinking coffee or eating carrots like an addict you'll have to keep his regular only full heal spell, eating two spell slots to end up with a status removal that costs like 50sp, you better off keeping the regular party full heal and have Haru with Amirita Shower especially since Haru isn't really SP intensive if you go guns with her.

>>375816419
>any more
Wait, is there any fuel in the first place? I don't remember any when I played. Unless you count Morgana, but he seems too cartoony for that.

>>375816419
Yeah, I'm not big on the latex either. I would've personally made it just solid black aside from the scarf, eyes, and mouth, and had it so lighting didn't effect it at all for the same of adding a bit of weirdness to its appearance. Like a hole in reality in the shape of a cat or something.

>>375812850
Well no one should be being a cunt if they can't take shit back.
Fuck Morgana, useless besides healslut

>>375809750
OOH WE CAN DO THIS
OOH WE CAN DO THIS
OOH WE CAN DO THIS
fuck i dont want to start ng+

>>375816643
Nothing is too cartoony for degenerates.

>>375816368
>>375816305
This is really creepy and unsettling. I'm glad we got the cuter morgana. This shit would've given me nightmares.

>>375816610
I find the best team is just have joker use yoshitsune with debilitate, and have ryuji, makoto, and yusuke for healing and buffing.

>>375816694
Using Morgana after Futaba's Palace is the absolute worst.
>Bona Fide Monafied
FUCK YOU

>>375816812
>not abusing morgana with miracle punch and luck build

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>>375816718
>morgana manages to stay in his palace/mementos form in the real world somehow
>you wake up and see that thing standing over your bed in the middle of the night
>"Joker, can you make me some food?

>>375816812
And then you realise magilous voice actor is the same as futaba

>>375816880
Why the fuck would I want to hear Futaba say that ever again?

>>375815852
>Wow, it's almost like anything Morgana has, Joker can do better.
Morgana gets completely blown the fuck out by Makoto for everything in end game since she gets her own huge crit up as a weapon on top of all of her other tools but that argument is extremely shitty anon, you can say the same with every character:
>Waoh, Ryuji is shit because Joker can Charge Hassou Tobi!
>Waoh, Ann is shit because Joker can Concentrate Morning Star!
>Waoh, Makoto leaks shit because Joker ravaged her ass yesterday!
And so on.

>>375809750
I don't think you played the game.

>>375812587
>tfw ryuji is literally me

This is just as bad as /v/'s

>Theme of the game is fuck Adults!
>There are adults in the game that are good people
>ROFL XD WHAT A DUMB GAME LMAOOOO!

More than half the time /v/ criticizes something it seems like what they're criticizing is a non-issue or just wrong, I don't get it.

Morgana fucking sucks and I wish there was an option to just throw the fucking cat in under a train. Seriously the lamest, most annoying fucking character in the game.

Feels like such a lazy character. Hurr guys you remember Teddie? Well this time we have a dumb fucking cat who won't stop bitching about I'M A HUMAN, I JUST KNOW IT BY THE WAY GO TO BED and none of the charm Teddie originally had.

Teddie is based. Morgana is a piece of shit.

>>375810005
Oh someone edited the original, that's really funny

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>>375817578
>teddie
>based

>>375817578
>BY THE WAY GO TO BED

This is the fault of Persona 5 for wasting the players time for a full week doing plot exposition. People would criticize the game for this if Morgana wasn't the one telling you to go to the sleep and it was just the player doing it, which makes me wonder if Atlus did that on purpose.

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At least he is no Mishima

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Morgana never left my party and I don't give a fuck.

>>375817774
>there are people in this world who unironically would want Mishima as a party member

morganafags literally just want to fuck the cat and they hate Ryuji for talking back.

>It's Ryuji's fault for not being able to gauge the situation and know that Morgana wasn't feeling well after all the time of verbally assaulting and murdering Ryuji
Like the other anon said, Ryuji was trying to make Futaba feel better about herself while going outside and after dealing with her Palace. But oh no, Morgana had to make it all about himself again. Let's reiterate what he does and what he can do

>Implies that he's one of the best of the phantom thieves
>Just gets caught in the first and easiest palace
>If it weren't for Joker and Ryuji he would ahve gotten catraped and killed
>Turns into a car
Why not just write it out and have it be hallways again to appease all the P4 and P3fags. There's nothing really different, although I appreciate the banter while in the car.
>Serves as exposition-bot for the first palace, after which he knows literally jack-all about anything
>He didn't know about being able to change people's hearts without triggering mental shutdowns
>He can't even analyze the battlefield well outside of spouting "keen" observations
>Thinks he can do anything on his own when all he did was walk down the stairs of mementos and jacked off in the first floor
>Puts Haru in danger by going into the Metaverse while she was nearby without her knowing

Sure, he saved them during the pyramid explosion part, but that can't really redeem how trash he was throughout the game.
Prove me wrong, Morganafags.

>>375818118
You forgot that he tried to ran the party over in Mementos when he was going apeshit.

Well, he's a cat, they'd all be huge passive aggressive and overly emotional assholes if they could speak.

Swapping Morgana for Futaba is one of the greatest things in Persona history.

>>375818118
>never meet morgana
>never cross the bridge, get caught and eventually die

>>375818268
>Implying the MC is that stupid
>Bridge is up and needs to be lowered
>Only one statue on the side near the bridge
Really makes you think, huh?

>>375809750
Morgana is a girls name

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>>375818245

>Being this mad Morgana is the most liked mascot in Atlus history
>Now making shit up

>>375818325
Then he crosses the bridge and dies because he literally can't handle three or four enemies at that point without one more

I don't know if it's just me but I thought the whole thing with them figuring out Akechi was a traitor was pretty stupid. I'm not even just talking about the pancakes thing. I'm just talking about how it seemed everything conveniently fell in to place and that the entire thing was an act when the group didn't show anywhere near this much intelligence at any other point in the game, instead all of them acted like dumb kids. If I'm supposed to believe Makoto thought of it, well, before joining the party she ran in to a mafia boss' lair without thinking of the consequences. I'm supposed to believe she thought of something this intricate?

I also laughed later when they were trying to figure out what Shido's Palace resembled.

>I'm going to "steer" this country.
>Oh, it's a boat

>>375818383
>Literally goes straight ahead without even caring that Joker and others are in the way. And he is better than Teddie, I won't deny that, but he went full retard during that whole arc.

https://youtu.be/2X2kQSA3kFc?t=56m43s

>>375809750
They're both terrible. The autistic poorfag ended up being less obnoxious than those two.

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>>375812847
Ryuji is definitely a bro though.

>>375818392
>because the player is unable to handle three or four enemies at once, Joker the character is unable to do so
Alright, anon. You got me.

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>>375818383
>most liked mascot in Atlus

Not that anon, but come on, now. Jack Frost has way more recognition from Atlus than Morg. He's not Teddie, I'll give him that, but you're really overestimating how good he is.

>>375818392
>enemies ahead
>make Morgana defend himself while Joker takes down the enemies
Morgana is shit.

On a related note, what the fuck am I doing wrong to not get Futaba's 250 dialog count trophy

Did as much as I could while Akechi was in my party

>>375818723
Why is this trophy even a thing in the first place?

>>375818683
Shame that Jack Frost and his other variations are the only personas with distinct personalities in talks

>>375812847
>yusuke outbros him completely
In what way, at being more obvious that he wants to suck Joker's cock?

Ryuji is the designed bro character and plays his part at it, he has the most number of enouncters, default and optional, if you aren't making Joker pin for a girl.

Personality wise he is always got Joker's back, handling all the bantz aimed at him.

>>375818636
I think the problem is that Ryuji's a total bro in everything BUT the main story events. It's fucking nuts how big of a disconnect there is. SLink/Car Conversations Ryuji is a great guy, but then you get back to the main story and it's just constant "MAN I SURE LOVE BEING A PHANTOM THIEF DUDE WE SHOULD GO HIT ON THOSE GIRLS AND TELL THEM WE'RE PHANTOM THIEVES TO GET LAID FUCK YOU MORGANA YOU STUPID CAT LOL HOW DO APOLOGIES WORK".
Crimson had better fix this shit.

>>375813391
fuck off he was the most usefull party member high heal and magic and also that miracle punch no fuck you

>>375818858
No clue, but it's annoying.

CAT FUCK CAT FUCK
IT'S AWWWWRIGHT

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>there are people who don't run Ann, Mona, and Makoto

>>375819112
>Two healers and a mage
>in a game where physical is broken.

>>375818992
>MAN I SURE LOVE BEING A PHANTOM THIEF DUDE WE SHOULD GO HIT ON THOSE GIRLS AND TELL THEM WE'RE PHANTOM THIEVES TO GET LAID FUCK YOU MORGANA YOU STUPID CAT LOL HOW DO APOLOGIES WORK
That's oversimplifying and you know it.

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>tfw didn't really use anyone other than Ryuji, Ann and Morgana
and Makoto like two times I guess, rest just felt mighty inferior from your starting load out

>>375818887
Well technically speaking, all the personas are just demons in SMT, so their dialogue and personalities should presumably be imported in the Persona franchise.

Quick /v/ what's the best party set up?

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Is it bad that i want to lick Ryuji Sakamotos ass and balls after he had a long day on the field? just as a prank between bros of course :) he would totaly laugh when he cums in my mouth and tell me how gay iam haha

>>375819112
>There are people who used Morgana for anything after Yusuke's introduction save for the Okumura boss fight.
>There are people who used post Makoto/Pre concentrate Ann.

Mona was a fucking shit and that whole section was so forced. You could see it coming a mile away, and it wasn't even related to anything but the obvious bullshit after Futaba's palace.

>>375818723
I didn't get the trophy until the final boss. There are a bunch of lines unique to that boss fight for various reasons so just keep trucking for now

>>375819072
had it before i finished the last dungeon didnt even notice when

>>375819295

Starting loadout is pretty much the best setup until Makoto learns her heal-alls.

>>375819392
>there are people who didnt just use the full party and switched whenever they liked

made the game too easy though

>>375819072
The sad thing is it's loads easier to get than the one for Rise in P4G, probably because switching between party members is heavily encouraged this time around.

>>375819336
Ryuji, Ann/Haru, Makoto

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POOOOOOOOOOOOP

>>375812587
>unstable man thinks hes a woman
>/v/ hates this
>unstable cat thinks hes human
>/v/ thinks this is ok

>>375819112
I beat the game on Merciless pretty easily with the all-boys team.

The AI seems to like to target Morgana, so I just had him act as a sort of tank by guarding a lot.
I didn't need Marakukaja thanks to Debilitate.

>>375820467

Don't lump us in with that dumbfuck, thanks.

>>375818723
She has like 16 lines that are exclusive to the status effects of the last boss, I got it during that fight despite not really farming for it, I had almost none of Futaba's lines when Ann is a party member and never made my team get statuses on purpose.

>>375820467
name
literally 30 cases in real life where mentally unstable cats asked for and got surgery to become humans

You've got 10 minutes.

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>Morgana runs away
>Takes Haru with him, they become Beauty Thieves

>Sensei realizes that everybody is upset in the hallway, and unwittingly follows them into Mementos, she gets a Persona and joins the party as your token wind magic/healer
>Hifumi's curiosity towards the Phantom Thieves leads her to join the party, and she, curiously enough, decides to become the party combat strategist, using Psychic/Reflect/Gun abilities to tackle many lesser-used strategic weakpoints on most enemies
>By some twist of fate, the power of the wild card falls into another's hands, who earnestly wishes to join the Phantom Thieves in order to change the world for the better, and the one who had the power to see themselves was Mishima

Improvement?

ITT: People who can't handle the bants

You don't get to pick and choose what's okay and get pissed when somebody triggers you after you've been roasting them the entire time you've known them. Morgana literally introduced himself insulting Ryuji. At that point it's all fair game. You know what insecure people shouldn't do? Shit on other people's flaws.

>>375821002
Mishima can fuck off.

Deadly Fury versus Vorpal Blade. I need answers now.

>>375821426
RIOT
GUN

>>375821002
Fuck off Mishima

>>375821140
Being incapable of discerning what's cool or not in a social environment is a sign of autism.

>>375821002
>123fag
Get out now

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>>375812342

Greatest main party rivalry ever

>>375821732

Calling someone stupid and useless in your first meeting because they're not familiar with a paranormal world is autism.

>>375819532
Diarama is superior to media

>>375812587
How do you type with paws you fucking faggot cat?

>>375819112
>Ryuji, "the forehead", Joker, Morgana

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>>375820467
>

>>375822029
She doesn't learn Media, she directly learns Mediarama.

>>375819112
>Not Ann, Makoto and Haru
Go full harem or go home.

>>375814507
Ahh, they might be listening

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>>375821002
what would be Hifumi mask anyway ?
I tried drawing an Oni mask for her last night but it looked like shit, so I tried using the real assets, to see if it was my shitty drawing skills that made it look awful.
It turned out an Oni mask is shit for a cute girl.
It's ugly too without the nose

>>375814507
Shh*

Best teammates to use with the NEET

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>>375822620
What of it?

>Makoto and Ann get affected by Lust
>Eagerly wait the turn when they'll jump on my cock in a sex craze
>Morgana harisens Haru who in turn harisens Ann
I swear to god, fucking shitty cat.

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>>375822635
Update :
it MIGHT look good

>>375822179
The same way I fuck your mother you blond faggot.

>>375809750
>at shido's dungeon
>maxed out every social link possible except mishima
>done all the requests (I think)
>mishima wont show up despite him being rank 8
what am I doing wrong?

>>375822960
Finish the dungeon. After sending the calling card, for story reasons, he'll be a bit less busy and have more time to meet up with you.

>Source: Just had the same conundrum except at rank 9

>>375812847
Yusuke is more like the scrapped gay option than the bro.

>>375823120
phew alright then thanks pal
do you know where to find a complete list of books btw? I tried looking it up but can't find a full list anywhere
I was genuinely considering dropping the game if I couldn't max him out before the game ended

>>375822635
>>375822868
I thought she'd fit more of a Noh play mask.

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>Get affinity reading from Chihaya
>Holy shit I'm ranking people up like fist of the north star
>At this pace I'm gonna max everyone with a month to spa-
>Lv5 stat blocks start hitting

>>375815863
>by end game
And he said in Futaba's palace, by which point Haru hasn't yet joined. And he still dishes out good damage with Baton Pass even in the late game. He's great for regular encounters. You just trade him out for bosses.

>>375823189
I'd use the trophy guide on gamefaqs, for the books.

>>375816694
Lol, I kinda liked that quote, I know it's cancer, but I feel It's better than the rest of the shit he has to say.

>>375823313
that's what you get for being bad at the game
>>375823316
i'll check it out thanks

>>375823221
I thought so at first, but the nose kills it and the eyes are way too narrrow to make something and still call it a Noh mask.

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>>375823367
IT'S ALMOST SCARY HOW GOOD I AM
>3 more enemies with wind weakness

>>375814941
>>375813347
Except doing that came back to bite them later. Goro literally took pictures of them disappearing into thin air to blackmail them with because they weren't careful. And he actually does enter with them when they activate the app.

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>>375810590

>>375821002
Ok, except for Mishima.

>>375809750

Morgana is a condescending cunt. Hate the character not because he robs you of your freedom but because of how try hard and childish he is. Obnoxious Personality.

>Kamoshida
Ann, Ryuji, Morgana
>Madarame
Ann, Ryuji, Morgana
>Kaneshiro
Ryuji, Morgana, Makoto
>Futaba
Ryuji, Morgana, Makoto
>Okumura
Ryuji, Makoto, Haru
>Sae
Ryuji, Makoto, Akechi
>Shido
Ryuji, Makoto, Haru
>final boss
Ryuji, Makoto, Haru

>>375818251
You know what's up anon, but this comment will die in the depths of morganas Cat hole that is seeped in furfag semen.

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>>375813810
Repel Phys.

>>375812587
>not giving Ryuji the bro tier options when talking to him.

>>375818383
I haven't played persona 3, but isn't the mascot a non talking dog? Sounds good to me

>>375824027
P3's mascot is a talking toaster

>>375814941
Morgana swooced right into the metaverse and Haru immediately followed him. Don't think about it too hard.

>>375823780
>Kamoshida
Ann, Ryuji, Morgana
>Madarame
Ann, Ryuji, Yusuke
>Kaneshiro
Ryuji, Yusuke, Makoto
>Futaba
Ryuji, Yusuke, Makoto
>Okumura
Ann/Ryuji, Makoto, Haru
>Sae
Haru, Makoto, Akechi
>Shido
Ryuji, Makoto, Haru
>final boss
Haven't reached it yet, but probably going with Ryuji, Makoto, and Haru.

benched that nigger cat as soon as I can.

>>375823780
I agree with all of this except using forehead.

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>Die
>Morgana: JOKER NO

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU'RE JUST MAKING ME MORE ANGRY THAT I DIED

Futaba is even worse. "Joker...no!.....JOKER!"

SHUT UP

>>375824227
Haru is one of the best party members because of how much gun damage she doles out per turn. It's actually pretty nuts and she only falls short of Ryuji in terms of physical damage, and that's because he has Charge.

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>>375823780
>>Kamoshida
>Ann, Ryuji, Morgana
>>Madarame
>Ann, Ryuji, Yusuke
>>Kaneshiro
>Ryuji, Yusuke, Makoto
>>Futaba
>Ryuji, Yusuke, Makoto
>>Okumura
>Ryuji, Morgana, Yusuke robots weak to wind
>>Sae
>Ryuji, Ann, Makoto
>>Shido
>Ryuji, Ann (replaced by Yusuke when out of SP) , Makoto
>>final boss
>Ryuji, Ann, Makoto

Haru doesn't learn Riot Gun, she is shit.

>>375824227
>not using Yusuke for Phys until late game, then switching him out for Ryuji
>not using Haru for Gun skills
>not using Makoto for Dia skills

>>375823780
Why would you even use Morgana in combat when he's better at being benched healer ?

>>375824908
Riot Gun+Cripple would make her insanely broken. She's not "shit" just because she isn't broken.

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Fuck that stupid cat

>>Calls Ryuji an idiot and stupid since literally day 1
>>Causes things to fuckup himself (grabbing the treasure that imprisons you, etc)

ok.

>>Gets insulted and goes into an existential crisis mode
>>What's wrong Mona? What's Wrong?

n-nothing, j-just forget about it!

>>You sure?

Y-yes! Forget it! I'm great!
...
some time later

>>You guys don't care about me! Maybe it's better if I take things into my own hands!

>>I start fucking Ann

>>"Sigh"

haha fucking bitch

>>375824995
Because in Futaba's palace he's useful for Anubis and Kaneshiro's palace is so early in the game it's basically a question of if you want to cover Wind, Fire, or Ice

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>>375825038
>Charge + God Hand / Agneyastra
>Concentrate + Blazing Hell
When you see how Ryuji, Ann and Makoto are clearly better than her, you can say she is "shit".

>>375825332
That doesn't make her shit though, and her damage will out do Ryuji/Ann if you don't have time to Charge/Concentrate. Haru needs less setup than either of them to do insane damage. Very few enemies have resistance to gun either.

>>375825332
>agneygastra
Kept swift strike since it seemed less rng and cost less, did I do a bad?

>>375825548

Dunno but I never let go of swift strike either. It was just too good.

>>375825486
The problem is that during "normal" encounters, MC instantly blows everything up.
And for bosses, you always have time for charge.
>>375825548
My swift strike missed everytime, maybe I was cursed but I changed as soon as I could and agneygastra never failed me.

>>375825332
>says Makoto is better
>without explaining why

>>375825278
I never had trouble with Anubis and party members recovered with 1HP after the matches anyway. Yusuke and Haru did more crit than anyone during my first gameplay.
In Kaneshiro's palace and basically everything else until the final boss I just rolled with Ryuji/Yusuke/Makoto. Did I play the game wrong ?

>>375823780
>not having maxed hifumi to swap people out for buffs
>not using morgana for okumura

>>375825185
>Using twice as many meme arrows
This doesn't make the post twice as memey.
Although I agree, eff that stupid cat. He was only good until I made my own Apt Pupil + Miracle Punch user. Then I swapped him out for Yusuke for Rising slash shenanigans.

Now I have Cripple + Trigger Happy + One-shot kill. Feels great to be a gunfag.

>>375825751
She gets Marakukaja.
That's the only reason.

It's not a necessary buff to beat the game even on Hard but it's nice to have.

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>>375825751
>tank
>crit like a madman with Cybele weapon
>+10 all stats revolver
>heals
>defense boost
>tiptop tier Nuclear skill
>better ass
>forehead not the size of an iPad
This should be enough.

>>375825739
>Get Matador in Makoto's palace
>access to basically every element
>stays in my lineup until right near the end
It almost kinda sucks getting a super convenient Persona because whatever they can fuse into may be shittier but you don't want some Lv 40 bitch in you final group of Persona

I did the reaper flu season cheese and now I'm having trouble with getting money from shadows. How do I fix this?

>>375825871
I tried swapping people but I never liked it. People call it FFX but it isn't. In FFX you didn't lose a turn on a swap. I could see it being useful for SP conservation but that ship sailed with adhesive access.

>>375826038
>tfw keeped my Leanan Sidhe until lvl 60
This bitch was my bread and butter weakness machine.
Then I got lvl 10 strength and fused monsters.

>>375826064

But not being a fucking pleb who cheats the game

>>375823780
>Haru
Inferior to Ann in every way. Once you get Makoto there's no reason to use any member but Ryuji, Ann and her.

How to beat any enemy in the early game:
>use ann to sleep it
>have ryuji or haru buff joker
>have joker use charge and a high phys move


You wont get any sasuga jokkas either since itll die in one hit

>>375826453
>early game
>charge
Intredasting

>>375826372
It's on NG+ dude. The cheating started the moment I got the compendium

>>375826437
Better than Ann or Ryuji until they get Charge/Concentrate. Gun is also a useful damage type because few things resist it.

>>375823519
WHOOAA
WAY TO GO JOKER

>>375826453
>early game
>Haru
Okay

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>>375826453
>Haru
>Charge
>Early game

>>375826719
Even worse
>early game
>have Haru buff
I beat the game without Haru ever learning Heat Riser

>>375826064
Grinding treasure chests in Mementos

So does akechi not have an ultimate persona like the other party members? Also what is his best in slot equipment from itemization?

>>375826831
Sounds like your bad at the game then

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>>375826453
>early game
>haru
>charge
>high phys
>>375826913
Why don't you play the game ?

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>>375824174
>benching anyone
>when based Mishima exists

>>375827017
I did, im on ng+ trying to maximize things because i have autism, wasnt sure

>>375809750
Teddie > Morgana

Prove me wrong.

>>375826913
I'm pretty sure it would be Loki

>>375827143
>based Mishima
I know the benefits are great, but he a shit

>>375827206
So you know that you can't have Akechi can't have Loki when he is a phantom thief ?
Either way, I think the gun you get in the Casino is the best you can have for him.

Where can I find Morgana doujins.

I tried.

>>375826831
Same for me. I also beat Goro before that fucker's persona ever had a chance to learn Debilitate.

>>375827007
I think he meant that he beat the final boss before Haru's persona could learn Charge.

Everything before reaper farming is considered early game

>>375827415
I honestly liked Mishima a lot. He was a loser, but a lovable one to me.

>>375827486
*Heat Riser.
Damn Ryuji and his based skill.

>>375819112
>not the objective party of ryuji makoto and yusuke/mona for trash mobs
>not switching yusuke for haru and her shields after throwing out a sukukaja during bosses
lilith with miracle punch and mara with charge cripple snipe and one shit kill is all I needed.

>>375822868
It would loom better with the full mouth piece
like pic related but red

>>375826610
Ann and I'm pretty sure Ryuji has higher stats MAG/STR than her.

>>375827217
bearsona

>>375823780
same except I switch ann during mandarame with yusuke and akechi with yusuke during sae

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>>375827762
forgot pic

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>fighting in mementos
>find the enemies and bosses too easy in normal difficulty
>decide to crank it up on hard before fighting the chihaya side quest boss
>I get completely bodied by him, dealing next to little or no damage
>easily one shots my teamates and me
>attempt again on normal
>steal get cheesed to death because he keeps brainwashing my entire party
Of fucking course the first boss I try fighting on hard just so happens to be the first real challenge in mementos. Can't I ever catch a fucking break with these games?

>all this morgana damage control

The eff? When did /v/ become a bunch of furfags

Am i not able to do team slinks anymore after getting to the treasure of the last palace?

>>375827990
wouldnt it have been great if your mentor had been a human this time around?
Imagine getting sucked into mementos and finding hifumi had alread been there fucking up shadows

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>>375827973
did a quick try
dunno
I'll try with yours soon.

>>375809750
It's fucking ridiculous that he gets upset that he's less useful than Futuba. Futuba's like a fucking savant or something. She's wired in ways that make her extremely good in certain areas but leave her with crippling inabilities in others. It's like becoming upset that a suicidal, anti-social, manic-depressive artist is better is better at creating tragic and emotional works than you are.

>>375827007
Sounds like I'm great, I beat it without needing to grind

>>375828259
>playing on easy

>>375810723
That had nothing to do with his arc though? He just kinda...did it. It wasn't even like a thing that occurred from you helping him rehabilitate his leg injury. It just happens no matter what.

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>>375828395
You don't need to grind in any SMT game even on harder difficulties if you are smart about fusions.

>>375828259
>not pushing the security level into the red and carefully balancing on the brink of getting kicked out of a palace for them treasure demons

>>375812527
Sauce?

>>375812850
If you can't take being shitalked with then don't shitalk other people. It's pretty fucking simple you dipshit.

>>375828259
Idk anon, i didnt really grind either but i had it during the last palace on hard

>>375812486
4 does not have good characters. They're pathetically one note. And that aside I'm pretty certain that anon was talking about their interactions more than anything. 4 really didn't have anything like 3's development from the cast interacting. all it had was social links.

>>375810005
female edit when

>>375828395
But I beat it on hard.

>>375819112
Rider, Broji and Forehead is objectively best

>>375828517
Thanks, I needed something exciting to do in NG+

>>375824075
At least she doesn't show up until half-way through the game and doesn't fucking talk ALL THE TIME.

>>375819280
It's really not. It's exactly what happens in the game. Have you even played it?

>>375828820
Yeah i dont get all the praise for the p4 characters, theyre extremely one dimensional, i enjoyed p5s characters more overall, thats not to say that they were all good though

>>375828882
This right here is best combi!

>>375819112
Ryuji, Makoto and Haru is the best team.
Saving mona as the healer for after fights, and then switching in yuuske and ann if you wanna rush a palace down

>>375828820
When people say 4's cast is good, it's their dynamic and interaction is what makes them memorable.

Is it possible to do a solo joker run thru the entire game on merciless?

>>375828882
Forehead for shields, amrita shower, Psy + Gun damage
Rider for Nuking & Heals
Broji for Charge + Phys

>>375829570
doubtable, need at least one person to remove ill effects

>>375809750
The difference is that Mona was right and Skull was wrong.

>>375828517
I just wanted to get out of palaces ASAP in as few days as possible. I was already shit at allocating my time because I didn't know about Chihaya until late in the game. So I basically never grinded.

>>375829671
What if you were autistic enough to equip the proper status immunity accessories beforehand?

>>375828882
Makoto, Ryuji, and Ann is the dream team.

>>375829862
Sounds like u didnt enjoy the game

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>>375827973
:/

>someone stands up to the team asshole, like Ryuji and Morgana in this case
>OMG SO FORCED FUCKING SHIT CHARACTER THEY BOTH SUCK
>Someone is a pathetic bully victim and never speaks out (Like yousoke and chie)
>AWW CHIE IS MY WAIFU HAHA EAT SHIT BRO

>>375829879
masaka...

>>375829990
Chie is fucking ohya tier

>>375819112
I went with Yusuke, Mona, and Ryuji. Fuck everyone, the bro team is always the best. Haru is alright, though

>>375819112

>using Mona
>using Makoto

What are you, some kind of turbo faggot ?

>>375829908
Shields? Amrita Shower? I mean if you are loaded with shield & recovery items I guess you could switch Haru for just about anyone.

>>375819112
Reserve members get XP and you can swap your party out in battle, why the fuck would "run" anyone instead of using whoever best suits the situation?

>>375830517
Star slink lmao

>>375830285
Rise and Yukiko are ohya tier t b h

>>375830405
What are you? Some kind of healslut? Or just some drug addict?

>>375825332
>Makoto
>Good at anything

Morgana does everything she does but better and he has Miracle Punch. Haru is better for the same reason. If you don't need a specific weakness you should be going for guaranteed crits to down them.

I loved Makoto's look so I tried to use her early on but she falls off so hard because she's just not good at anything. Yusuke, Ann and Ryuji can nuke shit and Morgana/Haru offer crits.

Nuke is rarely a useful element either. So inferior physicals, inferior magic, inferior healing. Why use her?

>>375829862
That's fair. The game really goes out of it's way to make it easy to do it as an afterthought while progressing through palaces. Managing negotiations, party health and sp, hunting for treasure demons, filling out the strength confidant, trying to fuse the best personas possible and using confidant abilities for maximum efficiency was enough to make grinding fun for me. I just hope merciless is more demanding, because so far on hard half of that shit for me has been unnecessary to cream bosses.

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Ok guys which one ?

>>375830886
She doesn't die whenever a stiff wind blows unlike mona

>>375830512
Shield are useless, and enemy's barely afflict status de-buffs. Makoto's Rarukaja is useful, and Ann and Ryuji are powerhouses.

Morganna gets treated even more shitty than Ryuji. Aside from the stupid jokes and jabs Ryuji is respected by his friends.

Morganna gets ignored, bossed around, smacked around, and lambasted by everyone. He's compensating by trying to mock Ryuji. Ryuji, being the bigger man, mostly ignored him.

Nobody really respected Morganna and even Joker gets the option to constantly shit on him with every dialogue option including constantly suggesting he really is just a stupid fucking cat.

>>375830886
tankier than morgana and not a lot throws her natural weakness her way. Also she has high speed and often has first turn. Flashbang isn't much on damage but it's often a cheap source of dizzy, setting Ryuji/Joker/Yusuke up for sick tech damage

>>375831038
>enemy's barely afflict status de-buffs
I guess we had extremely different game expierences.

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>>375809750
Don't bully the kitty.

>>375811183
>faggot cat can dish it out but can't take it

I wish I didn't have to go find that stupid cat. Glad I'm fucking Ann just to spite him.

>>375830886
The most ridiculous argument they always give is "lol tankier (I don't know how they manage to make Morgana die every 3 minutes, but it looks like they do) and, more seriously, party defense boost, which IS a good argument.

My one gripe with Morgana is WHY WON'T THIS FUCKING CAT FUCK OFF FOR FIVE MINUTES

He lives with you, he goes literally everywhere with you, he constantly bosses you around, he never fucking shuts the fuck up.
I fucking hate Morgana, worst character in fucking existence.

>>375813446
>hen you're friends with someone IR
Some friend hiding his butt hurt feelings until taking off like a faggot