Why is this allowed?

>>375806127
Entertainment industry has a bigger market than a surgeon.

>>375806268
this
just look at how much actors or athletes make

>>375806127
Lirik is top #1 twitch streamer, I expected him to get more than that, especially when there are Youtube millionaires.

>>375806127
It's not really as bad as you think it is.
Sure, the guy is making roughly the same as a surgeon.
But consider the fact that as a doctor you can take pride in your work, knowing you are helping people as a highly skilled professional.
Whereas as a twitch whore you can only cry at night about what vapid retard you are.

>>375806461
>200k a year
>cry at night
Come on fag

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>>375806127
>doctors in the US get paid $255,000

How is THIS allowed?

What the fuck do you even do with all that money?

>>375806351

Athletes at least work hard. Don't lump them in with actors.

>tfw crappy internet and pc so I can't make them fat twitch bucks

>>375806546
>>doctors in the US get paid $255,000
Some make up to 400K+
>What the fuck do you even do with all that money?
Pay off Med School debt.

>>375806593
Actors work hard too.

Unless you're implying that all actors are pampered princess high profile A list hollywood actors.

>>375806546
Hookers and blow

Wait, shit, I forgot what board I'm on
You buy video games

I enjoy Lirik's GTA5 rp

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>>375806127
lirik is the most reddit tier faggot streamer there is
LOL CATS LOL IM FAT HAHA BURRITOS TACOS HAHA LMAOO WHEN I WAS YOUNG EVERYONE PLAYED CS1.6 BUT I PLAYED THIS OTHER AMAZING GAME NO ONE KNEW ABOUT CALLED UNREAL TOURNAMENT YEAH I WAS THAT COOL KID GUYS

this fucking guy holy shit

because people willingly choose to give him money
are you implying we should prevent people from spending money how they want

>>375806127
supply and demand. Same reason Professional athletes make the insane amounts of money they do. People get drawn to stadiums/streams and spend money to watch athletes/ people play video games and naturally advertisers want people to see their ads so they go where the people go and then pay those athletes/streamers because they're the ones bringing in the people.

>Comparing the top earner in a market where 99% of the people in it won't make more than $1000 a year
>Versus an average earner in a market with thousands of workers each earning hundreds of thousands of dollars a year
Retarded desu.

>>375806917
this, can't believe i had to scroll down all the way for some logical thought

>>375806742
>Actors work hard too.

Playing make believe for 2 hours a day for a few weeks is not hard work. Just because it's irregular and unreliable work doesn't mean it's suddenly hard work. Actors do the least amount of work out of everyone in the entire entertainment industry.

People are free to throw their money at whoever they want. Being mad at streamers making this kinda money just comes off as bitterness of jealousy. They were smart to get in while the market wasn't completely saturated.

>>375806127
>allowed

people can do whatever they want with their money. Even if it's retarded you cant stop them.

>>375806127
But as a surgeon you can fuck girls and still become a wizard.

>>375807210
>2 hours a day
Don't spout shit when you have no idea what you're talking about anon, it just makes you look like a retard.

>>375807210
If it's such an easy job why don't you go do it and make millions

>>375807350
Jewllywood

>>375806127
What don't you idiots get about free market economics? Millions of retards want to watch this shithead play video games day in day out, and millions of retards need specialist healthcare day in day out. Twitch's payment plan makes it so the shithead gets $2 for each subscriber via advertisements because that's how much advertising firms can afford in order to remain competitive in their field and retain a profit, and the board of health regulations rates however much the surgeon gets according to relative need. It's fairly high sum because the surgeon is both necessary and specialised, meaning there is less of his type in the world and his place of work therefore has to offer a competitive fee to retain their services. Shithead is also "specialised" from the advertisers point of view because he's popular and thus rakes in the most revenue for them.

It's all about competition and desirability/need. There isn't some overlord arbitrarily deciding twitch streamers should make as much as surgeons whilst laughing to himself and rubbing his hands together.

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>>375806127
It honestly shouldn't be allowed in its current state.
I mean people making money off streaming themselves is perfectly fine.
But what their streams rely upon to even be successful, are video games and content created by other people.
Its definitely due that a percentage goes back to the creators of the content, the streamer's content is based upon.
Similar to how radio stations pay royalties.

>>375807210
It's absolutely hard work. Just tkae Ian McKellen in the newest hobbit movies. The guy was in a giant green-screen room talking to nothing for hours on end.

>>375807350

Because the only way to become a successful actor is to have contacts in the industry. Nowhere is nepotism more rampant than in the film industry, the majority of them are related to each other.

>>375807450
subscriptions are completely separate from advertisements

>>375807417
But anon they don't just hire jews even if they do scams to give their jew friends money. most actors are white. I mean jews being in charge didn't prevent those guys from getting work.

Also you can go to england, bollywood, japan, china. They are in higher need of foreigners for many of their movies rather than hiring a local to try and do the job.

>>375807517
If it's this nepotism keeping you out of work I'm sure you have an acting demo reel that could show you're just as skilled as AAA actors right? If it's not a hard job and you're being kept down by nepotism this should be easy to provide.

>>375806127
because in this internet age, giving money to a person to get "connection" with that person who you want to be intimate with is pleasure thing in their tiny world any more than giving to actual content creators, such as a developer, artist, designer

People don't buy the games, but donate streamers

that's why pateron is basically cancer

>>375806127
As long as he pays his taxes why shouldn't he make as much as he can it's not his fault people are stupid enough to subscribe and donate money to a guy playing games

>>375806127
Because only a handful of streamers make that much, and because general surgeons aren't one-man shows.

>>375807648

Are you an actor or something?

The majority of people on this planet do hard labor for 8+ hours a day, minimum 5 days a week. The notion that actors are hard working is ridiculous. No knowledge is required, almost no skill is required, little time investment is required, relatively high paying. It's one of the easiest jobs around.

>The guy was in a giant green-screen room talking to nothing for hours on end.
This has to be a joke, right?

Summit easily makes 3k JUST in donations per day. That's over a million a year before taxes.

>>375806127
You think that is bad, go look at the faggots which do commissions for furries on patreon. They earn double that.

>>375807914
You clearly dont know about the grind involved in becoming good enough to be a professionally trained actor. Classically trained actors spend thousands of hours practicing, rehearsing etc. just to get parts

because this is what the world is like now, but don't worry, a few years and it'll finally all be over

>>375807534
whatever is linked to advertisements then

I doubt any streamer will be doing their 'job' for 30 years

He probably gets like twice that amount in addition from donations too

Even at 1000 subs you earn a shitton, 1 guy i watch got 3000+$ donations in one day

>>375807468
Should a surgeon have to pay the tailor every time he puts on his white jacket? No, that would be retarded. He pays for the product once, and can proceed to use said product in whichever way he so chooses - including using it continually for his own work.

I always wonder what these streamers will do when they can't stream anymore. What do you say in job interviews when they ask what you have been doing the past 10 years?

>>375808091
funny thing though, smaller guy cohhcarnage has about the same sub-count (6k~8k), reaps shitton in donations and have a "private" sub system for retards to subscribe a second time to.


lirik already confirmed g2a sponsorship is literally 10k a month + a percentage of sales, after rejecting to sign another contract

>>375808265
Streaming isn't that old yet. Once streamers start to fall out of favor maybe we'll know the answer to that.

>>375808265
>tfw traveled around europe for 4 years
>had to get surgery that turned bad, couldn't work for another 4 years
my application literally has nothing on it, they're as fucked as me when it comes to that

>>375808265
They invariably go on to work as marketers or community managers in the entertainment industry where their previous time spent streaming and subsequent ability to pull in large numbers will be regarded as an asset.

The sacrifice he made is turning his previous hobby into a job.

He'll probably never be able to play video games "normally" for a long time. He has to put up a camera/mic and constantly be interacting with the Twitch audience. He can't jsut sit down and play a game anymore after a busy day of working. Because that IS is work.

>>375808338
>cohhcarnage

absolutely cant stand that guy. He's everything I hate about twitch. but then again I watch forsen so I cant complain.

>>375808251
>Should a surgeon have to pay the tailor every time he puts on his white jacket?
The surgeon doesn't make money off the white jacket you idiot. You're really shit at analogies you know?
You're not talking about the games a streamer plays in this context. Your analogy actually refers to the keyboard or controller he's using.
Try again. Or wait, don't.

>>375808542
he doesn't even stream using a camera

>>375808265
Surely there aren't any jobs that are looking for charismatic actors that can convince thousands of people to listen and watch them while giving them money.

>>375808580
He's mad clever tough, got his psychology 101 down perfect. I watched him for a few months to study him as to why he's """successful""", he's utilizing cheap tactics into making people "feel good" about giving him money, which is why he's at such a high sub-count while being the third to fifth "top streamer".


I don't like him either, but he's good at what he does (luring retards)

>>375806830
he says while using a pdp reaction image, but yeah I agree. Can't stand that fag.

>>375808032
Uh...it's still thousands of hours spent playing pretend so that people have something to watch on a lazy weekend as opposed to thousands of hours spent painstakingly operating on tumours and lesions in the brain to try and ensure someone's fundamental survival and quality of life as a whole.

>>375806127
>entertainment makes money
im i supposed to be suprised?

>>375806127
Why not?

>>375809329
>comparing brain surgery to acting
Nice goal-post moving retard, I never made that argument. Also it's spending thousnads of hours getting really good at playing pretend.

>>375806127
He also dodges most taxes and shit. Germany introduced a law where streamers have to pay 1000-10,000€ a month (depending on viewer count) because of this and I think that should happen everywhere. Fuck these scumbag leeches.

>>375808617
>The surgeon doesn't make money off the white jacket you idiot.
Yes, he does sweetie. The jacket is a necessary part of his work and as such he makes money through wearing it. Video games are as much tools to streamers as controllers or keyboards, and there's no reason they should have to continually pay for the pleasure of playing something they've already bought once. Now please make a fool of yourself by trying to go down the "intellectual property" route.

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It's the entertainment industry, OP. It's always been like this.

>>375808076
This

You just hear of some #1 streamer from somewhere but you really don't know who the hell he is, nor will you remember his name a year from now. It's an unstable job, you're subject to the whims of an audience who might just randomly decide you're boring or 'problematic' all of a sudden.

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Don't forget that each member of Big Bang Theory makes 1 million dollars per episode

>>375809659
Jontron and Pewdiepie are still gaining subscribers, though
I wouldn't be surprised if in another five or so years some company picks one of them up to get their foot in the door of show biz, doing at least commercials or something

>>375809774
Pewdiepie got a contract with Disney and Maker Studios and made a YouTube Red series before asshurt whiners forced Disney to pull the plug.

>>375809998
Well to be fair, YouTube Red has always been a huge, stupid mess from the start
There was no real way for his show to make it, even if it turned out to not be garbage

>>375809736
Good for them. Making money off of the idiocy and shit taste of others is clever.

>>375809774
Pewdiepie also started streaming because his videos got demonetized and he's still earning a shitload of money through donations.

>entertainment makes more money than doctors

no shit

>25, working since 17
>Made 28k last year
>18/hr
>On top of bills and habits every month

Damn i thought i was making it good w/o a college education, guess this is actually bad. It'll take some time to sink in.

>>375806593
How do they work harder than any criminally underpaid sweatshop worker, or how does your value proposition of hard work=big paycheck work here?

And you are not considering that actors are paid not because of hard work but because of demand and supply, they supply their talent/countenance/charisma/scandal which the audience demands.

If my farts are a clean source of energy I can demand billions for them, even if you insist that they are just farts, because there will be demand from someone who is willing to pay, regardless of origin.

How do you not know how basic economics work?