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>>375802597
Morrowind is still a great game, and so are Oblivion and even Skyrim

>>375802672
I know. Just...FUCK.

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>>375802597
You missed.

>>375802597
Happy Birthday

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>>375802784

>you will never play morrowind for the first time again

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>>375802842

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>>375802909

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>>375802965

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>>375802897
You will get to play Morrowind for the first time on June 6, though.

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>>375802597
Time sure flies fast

>>375803037
Delet this

>>375803037
literally fuck off

>>375802897

I remember my first time

I thought the graphics were bad and the only neat thing about it was the freedom to explore

The rest was bad and still is

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>>375803010
Sorry I don't turn my HUD off for screenshots

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>>375802862
>when the compact todd howard
>compact

when will they learn?

>>375803127
Clearly photoshopped. I know you have the real one.

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>>375803114

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>>375803184

Has anyone tried the CD Goty version on Win10? Kinda feel like installing but Win10 has given me trouble with old games.

>>375803403
I haven't played it vanilla but I played MGSO 3.0 and it runs fine. Crashes once in a while but not often enough to ruin your experience, just make sure to quick save often.

>>375802597
Could you give me an update on Morrowind graphics overhaul projects? Are any of them finally complete?

>>375803403
Just download the GOG version d00d

>>375802965
>21 fps

>>375803648
OpenMW is almost done, they're getting great render distances at 40-60fps now. MGSO 3.0 is still the most up to date overhaul.

>>375803664
I could but if the CD I already got works just as well, I don't see a reason to. I know GOG gives also some free shit alongside with the game itself but are there other differences compared to Steam version?

>>375803740
Limitation of the engine, not the hardware. I'm using an overclocked haswell i7 and a 1070. It only gets that bad in Balmora because I have a ton of expansion mods for it but the rest of the game is a smooth experience even modded to shit.

>>375803849
>It only gets that bad in Balmora because I have a ton of expansion mods for it but the rest of the game is a smooth experience even modded to shit.
Oh anon, here you got me thinking it was an unoptimized unplayable mess. I will content myself with just openMW and vanilla Morrowind.

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>>375802597
The amount of plebs who say "Morrowind is great, but the combat sucks" is just proof we will never see another truly great game from Bethesda. The casuals won a long time ago.

>>375804091
Doesn't the combat suck, though?

>>375804091
I enjoy the dice-rolling combat as much as the next fanboy but I don't think the alternative is inherently worse. I think a more realistic approach to first person combat could be really cool if it's done right and I don't want to write off that type of gameplay just because their last attempt was bad.

>>375804091
To be fair, the combat is probably the weakest part of the game. I mean it's much better than Oblivion and Skyrim combat but there's still certainly room for improvement. I'm hoping with OpenMW we get some really interesting combat overhauls. A M&B style combat system that still retains the dice rolling aspect could work really well I think.

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>>375802965
>Not using vanilla heads

Is morrowind worth playing? I've had it downloaded for a while and never started it up. Will I need mods, or is vanilla fine?

>>375803037
#notmymorrowind

>>375804091
The only problem with the combat is that they took a traditional RPG combat system and put it in a 3-dimensional, real time context.

>>375804564
That's not a problem.

whats the best way to play morrowind anyways? is openmw playable?

>>375804587
Yes, spamming left click is great design.

>>375804543
The only mods you need are the morrowind code patch, which is essentially just bugfixes, morrowind graphics extender which allows widescreen resolutions and the delayed dark brotherhood attack, which delays the event that triggers the start of the tribunal expansion main quest.

Ignore the fags suggesting complete overhauls. Do your first playthrough vanilla at least.

>>375803767
>MGSO
Please don't recommend that.
It's not up to date and will give you many erros, and many meshes in it are porrly optimized. If you want to overhaul the look of the game, guideanon morrowind 2016 pastebon guide is the wy to go, it has a few bug easily fixeable tho.

>>375804590
It's playable but it's still missing some things. There's no reason not to just play vanilla at this stage.

>>375804772
alright thanks. how buggy is the vanilla btw? i heard its somewhat buggy and if it is so are there any mods that fix that

>>375804319
I've always felt like M&B combat was overrated. I appreciate how much control you have over your sword but the way you actually perform those moves physically feels like clunky to me. You'd think a company the size of Bethesda could find a way to refine a system like that into something feels more natural and fluid, but that's obviously not something you can expect, especially when many of those mechanics don't lend themselves to controllers.

Are there any examples of console-friendly first person combat games that are actually decent?

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>>375804091
>Combat is what made morrowind great
The combat is fucking garbage, the only good thing is all the extra spells in the game, but at the same time those spells are so imbalanced that it completely wrecks the fucking game too. DND Dice mechanics are a fucking holdover from tabletop when they couldn't handle the kind of combat we get in games today. What kind of fucking moron are you to ever expect another good game from Bethesda at this point let alone a "truly great game" they could fucking do that even if you got rid of every casual. And speaking of which enjoying Morrowind's melee combat doesn't make you "hardcore" I spent 10 years playing Everquest with the same melee gameplay. Let me tell you it wasn't fucking fun mechanically then, it's not fun mechanically now. That game was infinitely harder than 90s kid's first single player CRPG. I didn't play that game because I could miss my melee attacks sometimes. I played that game because of the vast amount of depth it's other mechanics brought me, along with the social aspects. That game was also infinitely more balanced than Morrowind while not removing the hundreds of fun spells.

But fine let's pick a single player to compare to instead. There's games like Dark Messiah that have lost the dozens of spells of morrowind yet the combat in it is much better designed and has you using your environment and spells in unison to fight enemies. Would more spells have been cool? Sure. But I'll take a handful of spells with depth to their mechanics than bethesda's ocean wide puddle of mechanics. Morrowind fags jerk off this game like it was the best thing ever when it wasn't even the best CRPG that came out in it's year.

>>375804854
>Are there any examples of console-friendly first person combat games that are actually decent?
Dark Messiah
I guess Riddick despite that not being an rpg

>>375804845
It's buggy, but morrowind code patch and graphics extender fixes a large chunk of them while still retaining the vanilla experience. Just don't mess too much with the draw distance in mge, you still want a fair amount of fog.

>>375805053
>DND Dice mechanics are a fucking holdover from tabletop when they couldn't handle the kind of combat we get in games today
What is that supposed to mean? Having actual RPG mechanics is bad and seeing through walls is good?

>>375805053
>>Combat is what made morrowind great
Nice job refuting that argument he never made. You sure are great at debating. Well I guess you win this one for now...

>>375802862
>Talking in CODE

>>375803037
Spam unrelated shit in some other threads faggot

>>375802597
I've never played Morrowind and I want to but if it's a bitch to mod then I'm not sure I'm up to it.

Is there some kind of all-in-one mod that's simple to install and makes the game not look so dated?

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Reminder that just two days ago Province: Cyrodiil released Stirk island just off the coast of Anvil (which Oblibiob didn't include for whatever reason) and Skyrim: Home of the Nords released the Reach area.

http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44922/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44921/?

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>>375806095
And, yes. Stirk is borderline tropical jungle.

>>375802862
>get in the damn car

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>>375806151
Complete with delicious rips of Oblivion models and textures.

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The Skyrim mod is much bleaker in contrast.

>>375806318
Is that a bird in the top right?

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>>375806318
And this is Karthwasten. The village of 3 houses in Skyrim.

>>375806347
Yes.

>>375805053
could you tone it down with the cussing?

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>>375806368
Stirk mod has only 4 quests.
Skyrim a bit more, but the quests are more token content than a real thing. Get these for exploration and lore instead. They're both betas, though very polished betas. And for Skyrim this is first release ever.

are there any sex mods for Morrowind

>>375802784
is this a skyrim mod?

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>>375806467
Really feels like an undeveloped wilderland.

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>>375806467
There was a release years ago desu.It was very tiny though

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This is Skyrim: Home of the Nord's internal development map. Dated by now, but not that old.

>>375802597
>buy on steam
>start a new character
>go wood eld (the one thats good at archery)
>get a quest to kill some rats
>shoot arrow point blank at a rats head

>misses

good fucking game

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And some project documents for Province Cyrodiil.

>>375806602
git gud

>>375806602
>buy on steam
>start a new character
>go nord (frost resistance, sure, whatever)
>get a quest to retrieve some midgets gold stash
>keep the gold to buy some armor and a spear
>now 2-shotting mudcrabs without missing
Don't know what to tell you.

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>>375806656
You can expect loads of jungle and marsh.

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>>375806503
Yes, but they went down with the sites they were hosed on. Now only a select few of us own copies. And we're not giving it out both because we don't want Skyrim audience and it's degenerate. So no, you can't have it.

>>375804091
The combat in Morrowind does suck. This doesn't mean the combat in Oblivion or Skyrim is good though, the combat sucks in them as well.

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>>375806594
I'm pretty sure this is theirs too

>>375806656
>>375806706
I love this. Just look at the Imperial isles...

>>375806602
Yeah that part sucked, any random beta off the street can use just about any weapon better than a FOTB morrowind character

wait until you discover alchemy and spellcraft though, holy shit lol

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>>375806829
>I'm pretty sure this is theirs too
Yes, but it's a plan. Not what they've modeled already.
Also a reminder all three projects are coordinated to form one landmass.

>>375806810
can you fuck animals then shit on them?

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>>375807034

>>375806656
This one is outdated.
There is a new one in their discord.

>>375806810
This is exactly why corporate mod sites simply MUST fucking die already...

>>375807304
I don't use Discord

Post it please.

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>>375807017
I'm well aware, I just like the dedication and the attention to detail these modders have

>>375802672
>even Skyrim
>even

don't be a condescending cuck.
Skyrim is objectively the best TES yet.

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>>375807402
It's 6mb. Gonna upload it to imgur.
I also have this map of Gold Coast, most red are complete (dunno if interiors too)

>>375804293
It's much better than in skyrim because no hp bloat.

>>375806602
you need higher Agility to hit with any weapon better.

but I guess normies are too dumb to realize that since all normies play are pure Action RPGs and nothing with dice rolls.

>>375804294
Either make it like in dark messiah or fuck off.

>>375807513
I politely disagree

>>375807402
Here you go:
http://imgur.com/a/qUlZM

>>375807513
Nah, it's boring cave grind.

>>375806318
>not just playing actual Skyrim

MWfags need to move on.

>>375807754
no, it's not.

>>375807693
I don't care. you're wrong anyway.

>>375807827
Yes, it is.

>>375807768
>>375807827
Why don't you just make a skyrim thread and use that to discuss skyrim, rather than trolling this thread.

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>>375807519
>>375807703
Thanks anon. The map is not different at all. It just adds roads and grids. Good for planning though.

>>375807768
You have no idea who you're messing with:
The Elder Scrolls games, and with them the lore have moved on, in multiple directions, and Tamriel Rebuilt/Project Tamriel moved in their own unique direction as well. We mostly focus on the lore created by the developer teams that created Battlespire, Redguard, and Morrowind, participated in the forum RPs, and wrote what the Imperial Library lovingly calls "Obscure Texts".
Outside of our bubble, there are currently three mainstream "recognized" strains of lore: the main line games (with Skyrim representing another, visible soft reboot of the setting), The Elder Scrolls Online (taking place more than seven centuries earlier), and Cosmic TES (secret lore, based either on obscure meanings behind mundane or religious occurences or focused on the post-Nirn world depicted in c0da and set in the post-Landfall 5th era and later).

While the lore differences do not matter at a casual glance, Tamriel Rebuilt/Project Tamriel are by their reliance on “old” lore odd and quaint to outsiders. More importantly, Project Tamriel have ongoing projects rebuilding Cyrodiil and Skyrim based on the same “old” lore basis in cooperation with Tamriel Rebuilt, actively and radically different from the setting development of later games.

>>375808008
Not only. Quote from lead dev:
"Slight changes to the heightmap: accurate in-game shape of Stirk and the Gold Coast, slightly wider rivers for that river traffic, etc. Also note the small mining settlement in the northwestern corner of the Kvatch release, tentatively named Thyra."

>>375802842
>>375802784
>>375802909
>>375803010
What mods to get that sky? That can't be only MGE.

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Playing the game for the first time, having the most fun I've had in an RPG since New Vegas.

I played Oblivion and Nehrim some years ago but I barely remember them. I forced myself to finish the former and didn't think the latter was all it was cracked up to be and couldn't be bothered to finish it.

Also, I sure hope there will be a way to convert vanilla engine saves to OpenMW.

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>>375808008
>>375808193
They're absolutely incredible. I can't wait to make my way across the Valus Mountains and down into the jungles of Nibenay

>>375808193
How would one go about getting in contact with the team to help even though the one in question never modded but wants to help?

>>375808475
I heard both projects desperately need most of all questers and implementers. Want to help them, but don't know jack shit about cs and scripting

>>375808963
>>375808998
I'm sure there's some info on the forums or on their websites. I know that people who wanted to do quests or help with building the world in the CS had to make some sort of showcase.

>>375808963
Check their discord, it's pretty active most of the time and there are devs always. Considering you're not familiar with cs, you could ask for guides and tips. And yes everyone who wants to join the team need to make a showcase, but it's not that big of a problem if you're gonna learn cs.

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Lads, are you ready for Morrowind multiplayer?

>>375809996
That image is actually older than this website.

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>>375810112
And the joke is that we got a TES mmo casuals love (that's shit), while Morrowind multiplayer is in late beta and all the nerds who hated the idea of multiplayer are cheering it on. Weird things happen.

We nostalgia now https://youtu.be/5UNwjB-k6aI

>>375808203
It seem to be the last MGE version with all the shaders enabled.

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Reminder that Skywind will never come out or it'll suck hard.

>>375812125
Nobody actually cares about Skywind, it's a pointless endeavour.

>>375812369
You'd be surprised how many normalfags are still waiting for Shitwind.

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>>375807513
No.

>>375803073
is blacklight finished yet

>Ctrl-f *miss*
>Zero results
What the fuck I love Morrowind now.
*miss*

>>375813442
Third post in the thread you dumb fuck.

>>375812125
Is Skyrim the worst thing that happened to the modding "community" ?

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give me your best oblivion and morrowind mods

>>375813652
Yes.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/83326/?

>>375813760
Sotha Sil Expanded and Tamriel Rebuilt get recommended every thread.

>Oblivion
No

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>>375813035
I'm not sure, I haven't been following the development for a while desu

>>375813908
is anything finished yet

>>375813760
http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/23746/?

>>375813760
I think oblivion is a lost cause until someone devellop a new engine like openMW. It's way too instable, even vanilla.
For morrowind, this guide is good for graphics:
https://pastebin.com/7gF2VLaf
And for content this is mostly good:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UobmRY-c6HkjSwBMxUGMKRTNANURMbifr3LYRnucN_c/edit
(his rebalance suggestion ar shit tho).

And for content

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>>375813943
I'm not sure about interiors and I know they don't have quests yet but the exteriors you see in this pic are done.

Dynamic shadows and grass in openMW WHEN ?

>>375814139
>Last OpenMW release was December 2016
What the FUCK?

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>jump
>jump
>jump
>jump
>jump

what did they mean by this?

>>375814263
They delayed it for some reason, reading their forum it seems it'll be ready in two weeks.
Ither than this time thy seems to have a pretty stable release pattern.

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>>375813958
>permanently boosts the attack rating of all the humanoid races by 1000
>renders all weapon skills and agility completely pointless
>can't be uninstalled without reinstalling the whole game

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>>375814263
Most stuff is heavy bug-fixing. There seems to be internal debate about when to actually do releases because there's so little to be done.
OpenMW DID have dynamic shadows, and reimplementing is not an issue according to Scrawl, but it's not a priority.
Most people are following TES3MP now, its multiplayer fork.

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>>375814031
Let me answer it for you.

>>375814139
Distant Land in the coming release.

>>375814420
Are they going to merge it? Ffs, merge mp with main branch.

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>>375802597
>Morrowind is older than the average /v/ poster
>Morrowind will be legal soon

Time flies

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>>375814510
>Are they going to merge it?

I'm not sure. Not sure it needs it, TES3MP is currently a separate exe and has to be anyway, because of how much internal codebase it changes to get multiplayer to work.

>>375814587
Then ship them together, like how Serious Sam games have separate .exe for modded and unmodded game. Tell them to do it. They're sundering the userbase this way.

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>>375814693
Well considering it's also separate teams and TES3MP isn't technically associated with the OpenMW team and is its own project also complicates things.

>>375814587
Do you know if your mods are playable on OpenMW ?

>>375804091
This. All they needed (which probably didn't happen because of time/budget/mechanical limitations) were a whole bunch of animations that substitute the *miss* sound. A dodge, sidestep, parry, duck, glancing blow etc.
Back then people were imaginative enough but today the modern gamer can't accept that he's seeing or rather hearing an abstraction of a defensive maneuver/failure to hit.

>>375814749
Why would I play TES3 MP when they don't have all the bugfixes of current OpenMW? This is a big problem and it isn't solved by acting snarky that nobody cares about bugs.

>>375814756
I've seen and talked to people who tested them. Sotha Sil Expanded seems to be, including the parts that needed the glitched behavior of original Morrowind to work, so that's nice.

>>375804701
This. I can confirm.
Vanilla MW is already a pretty solid experience. I dumped 600 hours into vanilla alone before I felt the need to mod content in.

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>you lived to see OpenMW playable and nearing feature completion

>>375814946
Nice, I'll probably switch to it. What worried me the most was the compatibility of complex mods, yours included.
Really liked your take on Sotha Sil and the Clockwork City.

>>375804553
Underrated comment

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>>375815113
>Really liked your take on Sotha Sil and the Clockwork City.
Thanks, evidently so did ZOS and Bethesda

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>>375807580
>better than skyrim
>good

what's the coolest mainland region to explore? i don't care about the quests

>>375815379
Necrom

>>375810937
No.

>>375815379
Necrom and Mephala Mountains (just north west of it, has Akamora city in the center).
I also recommend Gorne, the south easternest island off the mainland.

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>>375815476
yes

>>375815110
Now to achieve clinical immortality and eventually live to see Tamriel Rebuilt reach beta.

>>375815613
Lightly pissed myself.

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>TES game with For Honor or Chivalry combat

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>>375815740
I made a bunch of other ones but I can't find them

>11 years since first reference
>still no fucking lilmothiit

>>375815889
Yeah and they should include reverse overheads too.

Whatever happened with skywind?

>>375816152
I want them too, would literally never play as anything else.

Does a mod to fix the wiki style dialogue exist? Something that groups topics by what you already know, what gives you quest and what you haven't heard yet?

Because good lord, Morrowind needs a dialogue UI redesign.

>>375816152
>lilmothiit
what's that

>>375816693
Fox people in the book that came with the Oblivion collector's edition.

>>375816845
Aw shiet, now I wanna know more.

>>375804587
Yes it is. They tried to take a mostly automated process and combat design and transition it into a 3D open world, and failed miserably.

>>375816931
Silver fox race of men that lived in south western part of black marsh, between Cyrodiil border and Lilmoth city. They all died when Hist unleashed a plague because Imperials were colonizing too deep in the marsh.

>>375817110
I never liked hist anyway.

>>375817094
>failed miserably
A classic with a dedicated modding scene and constant shout outs 15 years later is far from failing miserably.

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>tfw you no longer need graphics mods other than MGE to appreciate morrowind

i've grown to like these stupid textures and models

>>375817163
>argumentum ad populum
Not an argument

>>375817163
At the combat not the game. Even the fucking blocking is automated. When adding a manual block is as simple as a few extra scripts.

>>375817110
They're "thought" to be extinct which is Bethesda speak for "we don't feel like making character models for them and expand their lore but also don't want to completely crush your dreams"

>>375802597
Why hasn't anyone made a better RPG than Morrowind in the last 15 years?
You'd think at least one person would have tried in all that time.

>>375817321
>argumentum ad populum
>Not an argument
Um, no, sweetie. It's not an argument for popularity. Nobody cares about millions of Skyrim faggots such as yourself. For somethign to be considered true, there needs to be general consensus among critics and hardcore RPG fans. When you and a few Skyrim fans come in and call Morrowind a complete failure, you're presenting an opinion which is not only factually incorrect in multiple ways, but is also an outlying opinion - not a truth.

>>375817387
Underrail

>>375817094
As a new player, I enjoy it and appreciate their design choice in making stats matter than in most games and avoiding to tie weapon damage to weapon skill.

>>375817530
You're responding to an underage /pol/tard who loves Skyrim of all games, it's a lost cause...

>>375817387
Because people who want to play a RPG are a minority, while people who want uncomplicated sword & sorcery action while the game gives rimjobs to their ego are a majority.

Also a RPG implies players not seeing 100% of the content on a playthrough, which runs contrary to modern design paradigms.

>>375807827
Shitty bait is shitty.

>>375817812
This.

I for one love making a new character that focuses on different skills than the former so I can reach different places, can solve quests in different ways and/or join entirely new factions.

This however is a nuisance to the modern casual gamer.

>>375817641
The math is fucked though. AGI only matters if it's very low or boosted well above natural maximum. In all non-edge cases you always hit and enemies always hit.

>>375818036
Comparing my experience between having 40 to 47 agility, and in fighting rats and those worm-like things, it's a world of difference. I was being hit every other strike with 40 but now with 47 it takes them several attempts before they can hit me.

>>375818736
The biggest factor is how much fatigue you have when you make the attack.
Which the game never explains.

>>375818971
I knew that coming into the game and have been keeping my fatigue topped up while fighting the entire time. Agility still plays a very significant role regardless.

>durrr mods will never be finished
Remember! Slow and steady wins the race.