Games that broke new ground.

>>375801791
How did Liero break new ground?

I'm leaving the above sentence there because after typing it out it clicked. You're a bastard.

>>375801791
man Worms really didn't age well

>>375801791

Minecraft
Terraria
Motherload
Dig Dug

>tfw made a TC of Liero that ended up more popular than the vanilla game at my middle school all those years ago
>the computes that had them got wiped
>the computer I made it on is long dead
>the only backups I had were on 3 1/2 inch floppies that are either lost to time or got overwriten with something else
I miss my game. I'm pretty sure it was horribly balanced. Whenever I noticed a weapon was never getting used I either buffed the fuck out of it or replaced it.

COD4 MW

Nier Automata, never seen any game do what it does!

>>375802356
IT RBOKE NEW GROUND

>>375802356
3rd person dodge-slash action game?

metal gear solid
crash bandicoot
super smash brothers 64
poi poi
pacman
pong
smb
donkey kong
comix zone
nights into dreams
doom
golden eye 64
medal of honor ps1
everquest
croc
sonic
ALTTP
pokemon
ff7
re
oregon trail
tetris
simcity
gta 3
metroid
half life
gradius
pole position
rad racer
contra-
ghosts n goblins
civilization
myst
harvester
descent
tales of majeyeal
MK/SF2
virtua fighter
dragons lair
space invader/centipede/galaga
FF1
sims
max payne
man hunt
dungeon master
fzero
super mario kart
Rez
lsd
DDR

There is many more
add some to this

>>375804054
NBA jam
snowboard kids
tony hawk

>>375804054
System shock?

>>375804459
Yes
This works well
As well as postal

>>375804054
>crash bandicoot
In what way?

I mean, sure, it was technically impressive, but for games as a whole I don't know. Can't even think of a game that I would consider influenced by Crash' game design.

>>375804589
it was a straight way 3d platformer

sure you didnt have the freedom of mario 64 but it showed platformers in a new light then before

I would consider it the same as virtua fighter
an evolution to one of the biggest genres of video games till that point

Has it flaws but it was outstanding

>>375804054
Megaman
Super Metroid
Starcraft
Modern Warfare (albeit in a bad way)
Castlevania SotN (and arguably Classic Castlevania)
Anno 1602

>>375804792
I would argue golden eye inspired halo
which inspired modern warfare.
I think a better choice would be jet force gemini

I will add another game
bomberman

>>375804054
TM/V8
first wrestling games
first sports games
diablo

>>375804054
Elder Scrolls Arena
WoW
DotA
Diablo
Team Foretress 2 (Maybe 1 instead? Haven't played 1, so I wouldn't know.)
Thief

>>375805269
I think tf2 is more influential then 1 so I agree
we have overwatch and now like a dozen other team fighting champion games now

The Legend of Zelda
Ultima series (especially 4 and Online)
Dorf Fort

>>375805326
Is "being influential" the same as breaking new ground though? I am not sure the terms are interchangable, which is why I was doubtful wether I should put TF1 instead of TF2.

>>375804054
>ghosts n goblins
In what way? Love the game, but how did it break new ground?

>>375801791
wrong
>>375801950
wrong
>>375804054
wrong
>>375804431
wrong
>>375804459
wrong
>>375804792
wrong
>>375805197
wrong
>>375805269
wrong
>>375805328
wrong

http://culture.vg/reviews/awards/game-of-the-year.html

>>375805486
Wrong

>>375805486
wrong
>>375805515
wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random

>>375805486
Missed me ;^)

>>375805386
I would say so
Cartoony shooter

nothing quite like it

>>375805486

quit shilling that blog

>>375805634
Jordan Belchos exists.

That is nice to know.

>>375805651
Being a "cartoony shooter" is not why TF2 broke ground, but rather it being a team shooter with clear dedicated rolls.

>>375802228
Try checking if your TC isn't featured there

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ze54heyomyz/The+Liero+Experience+-+Organized+by+IceMan.rar

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>>375805486
>that site
>everything after 2007
Is this bait

Alien Hominid. It broke Newgrounds

>>375805764
I say that design can be ground breaking

Team based shooter though
there is better ones to define that

Give me a good one anon

>>375805891
Inspired binding of isaac too
But when I see that game all I can think about is contra

>>375805764
>TF2 broke ground, but rather it being a team shooter with clear dedicated rolls
>TF2
>2
>broke new ground

come on guy

>>375805893
>>375805764
>implying it wasn't hats and riding off the success of Half life 2

>>375805939
<<whooosh>>

>>375805973
Half life 2 had a different style then TF2

We already said half life 1 was groundbreaking

>>375801791
I thought that was some hipster indie pixelshit version of worms when I first saw it.

>>375805893
>I say that design can be ground breaking
Maybe, but it is not as inherently important to video games as the fundamental game mechanics. "Games breaking ground with their art design" should be a sub-category, if anything.

>Team based shooter though
>there is better ones to define that

>Give me a good one anon
Team Foretress 1

>>375805960
Anon, try following the conversation.

Also, there are games that are sequels that broke new ground, like Dune 2 or Super Metroid.

>>375806065
It basically is. Worms 95 is still the best in the series, IMO better than Armageddon.

>>375806039
Not the point, a lot of people got into TF2 because of the orange box, which almost everyone got because of half life 2 or portal.

>>375801950
>Minecraft
you mean Infiniminer?

Neat Thread I am going to add zombies ate my neighbors and smash tv

>>375806136
Only ever played Worms World Party, it was the shit back in the day. Warhogs was fun, but the German name is better (Frontschweine).

Been playing Shellshock Live with friends a lot recently, it is basically a not-as-fun indie game version of Worms.

>>375806079
>>375806150
You guys are right

what about frogger?
and road rash

>>375806206
I think both Infiniminer and Classic only paved the way for Survival that did break the new grounds

>>375806079
What does TF2 do that TF or TFC didnt?

>>375806206
I think he wrote and meant Minecraft
you know, that game that really made an impact and changed some things forever when it was released

>>375806424
you mean the one that was based on infiniminer?

>>375806378
>What does TF2 do that TF or TFC didnt?
I don't know. As I wrote in my initial post. I have not played any previous TF game, so I imagined they should be listed instead, to which Anon replied that TF2 is more influential.

Like I said, try following the conversation.

>>375806616
yes. the one that expanded an old idea to break new grounds

>>375806705
What did minecraft do that infiniminer didnt?

>>375806673
Well overwatch and quake champions
battleborn

>>375806731
Be popular

>>375805486
wrong

Terraria

>>375806731
Everything survival related, from inventory and crafting to procedural infinite map generation, fluid physics, mobs, day cycle etc

More than 5 blocks in Creative

>>375805515
>>375805634

Dumbfucks.

>>375806781
You mean, Clonk?

SL
TIBIA
runescape
maplestory
dungeoun fighter online

>>375806731
you should play those games first before discussing them. it seems like you didn't

>>375806790
Wrong

>>375806839
Clonk is a mission based physics and management puzzle
Terraria is an exploration and crafting based adventure/RPG hybrid with procedural generation

The only 2 things common between Clonk and Terraria is a side view and the very notion of crafting. Even crafting itself is different. Do you fags even play these games before you spout your shit?

>>375806947
Don't mind him, he just hates minecraft because it's popular

>>375805486
Totally agree with this list desu

>>375801791
>tfw played Liero Xtreme competitively in a clan as a kid

>>375806673
TFC wasn't influential?

>>375806971
Well, you got me there.

I just wanted to mention Clonk. Let's meet at the halfway point and say the Clonk series is somewhat influential towards Terraria.

>The only 2 things common between Clonk and Terraria is a side view and the very notion of crafting.
And digging.

>>375807206
Was it? I don't know. I am not big into team shooters, so you tell me. I just name dropped a game I thought was somewhat influential for the vidya industry.

>>375801950
How has this joke gone over everyone's head Jesus Christ

Koulu 3
Areena
V-Wings

>>375807217
Give it up, anon. You got your Clonk reference, move on.

>>375807270
TF2 wouldn't exist if it wasn't for TFC. I think TF might also be the first team based shooter with character classes so there's that. That's quite influential seeing how that's a very popular concept now.

Man am i glad no one mentioned dark souls

There might be hope for /v/ after all

>>375801950
Don't worry anon, I got your joke.

>>375802618
2B'S ASS
I'M GONNA CUM

>>375807421
PSO tho

>>375807278
I got it, I just found it not that funny. The fruit hung too low.

>>375807301
Did anyone outside of Germany even play those games?

>>375807359
Alright then.

River City Ransom

Another World deserves a shoutout. It's a damn shame the cinematic platformer genre has less than a dozen games.

>>375807421
That's because it would've actually been demon souls
That game's not hugely groundbreaking though, I'm pretty sure the character leveling was the most innovative thing about it

>>375807421
Obviously no one would say Dark Souls, because Demon's Souls predates it.

body harvest

and mischief makers

Rainworld is doing some really neat things with AI i have never seen before

>>375807669
Rainworld dev, fuck off

>>375807296
based

>>375807563
>>375807540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJUL_X5WvGE

>>375806065
Nah, this is real time. Great game.

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Arguably, LEGO star wars. the original one.

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So is this a RLM thread or no?

What about some indie games
like

star sector
counter attack

or my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaHTgdFD4hU&t=64s

>>375807738
what is this supposed to be

>>375807776
What about star wars shadow of the empire

>>375805486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5e0z1_uwHY

>>375807868
A game that inspired demon souls me thinks

Enemies can kill you in 2 hits if youjr not careful

It is more clunkier
more grindier
worse looking
more weapons that make you keep playing the game
and a feeding a pet mini game that turns into 100s of different things

came out in 2001
1999 dreamcast

it was like
one of my most played games in HS

>>375807897
that's not a LEGO game and doesn't have the LEGO game elements that the first LEGO star wars started

>>375808012
Anon that cannot be the best lego game there has to be better

>>375807970
it's supposed to be similar to demon souls because it's difficult? i'm not claiming that demon souls was innovative in much, but i'm not seeing the similarities between these two games

Warcraft III.

It was a standard RTS, all they did was add heroes, but with a custom game maker even simpler than Starcraft's and capabilities still being uncovered today, it literally started new genres, and influenced old ones. Modern FPS games are taking abilities and mechanics popularized by MOBA's that made it big off of Warcraft III.

Roller coaster tycoon
Simants

Army men for n64
tomb raider

>>375807713
Lol what? Does the dev get on here and shill the game or something? I am being serious, i really like how the lizards act and fight with each other.

Return to Blockland

>Souls discussion
Dark Souls' greatest achievment was probably bringing Metroid style level design into the third dimension, though Metroid Prime has it beat. Dark Souls has its own style though.

In any way, Dark Souls did not break new grounds, it just rediscovered some old ones.

>>375807838
If you want to name an indie game, you can't miss Braid, as it influenced the whole "artsy indie games" movement. Also, LoL was technically an indie game once, though that is really just a continuation of DotA.

>>375808148
>Does the dev get on here and shill the game or something
Yes you do

>>375801791
Postal 2

>>375808068
This isn't supposed to be a thread about the best games, this is a thread about the most groundbreaking games. Clearly the best LEGO game is LEGO indiana jones

>>375801791

Dungeon Keeper

>>375808084
In this game the combat you have to avoid enemy hits or your dead

In demon souls you have to avoid enemy hits or your dead

For a social rpg with internet connection the game was big back in the day people still play it

Atmosphere I like personally more then demon souls
Music as well

>>375808159
Yeah cause it was a fucking sequel to Demon's Souls

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>>375808209
>you have to avoid enemy hits or your dead
Wow, you just described every single game with enemies

>>375808190
Why isnt the lego indiana jones the most groundbreaking then?

>>375808171
Where is my dev money then >:(

>>375808283
Should have made a better game

>>375808262
Let's put it that way: Edison may not have invented the light bulb, but he refined it.

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>>375808209
>>>375808084
>In this game the combat you have to avoid enemy hits or your dead
>In demon souls you have to avoid enemy hits or your dead

>>375808262
Because it didn't introduce a new idea of a videogame you fucking retard, please understand the thread
the first LEGO star wars started the theme of adventure games focused on collection, unlocking, building, and simple puzzle solving. if you've played any LEGO game they've got this distinct formula under it all. indiana jones took the formula and made it best

>>375808260
3rd person though

Show me an earlier game where the players have slow attacks they fight against slow enemies and they have to perfectly dodge enemies or they die

>>375808379
No
this lego anon has a point I want to hear more of his opinion everyone matters in this thread you cannot get upset about anything lego person says

>>375808352
So if anyone talks about how they like rainworld people just assume its the dev? I mean you can think i am all you want but im just a random who liked how the lizards acted.

>>375808384
Severance: Blade of Darkness

>>375808503
Considering for how long you continue to roll with it, I'm even more convinced now that you're the dev than when we started this conversation

>>375808159
I agree

la mulana and spelunker as well
and super meat boy

>>375808562
The most important one might have been Rogue though.

>>375808503
Yes anon /v/ is fucked
If you talk about games that are not AAA you are clearly someone shilling for it
Of course you'll also be shilling for AAA games

>>375808517
>Severance: Blade of Darkness

PSO came out before this game
But I argue both games inspired it to a degree

>>375808384

you cant dodge in PSO. i dont know what game you were playing

you time your attacks, which are all up to three hit combos made up of any combination of light/heavy/status inflict to stunlock enemies and push them back with heavies and then reposition yourself and do it again

unless youre a mage class, in which case you should just spend your entire playtime boosting rangers with shifta and deband and using jellen and zalure on enemies

hunters are garbage and not worth talking about. rangers with the spread needle and mech guns outclass anything a hunter can do in terms of safe damage or crowd control

>>375808727
Yes you can
You can walk away and barely get hit

>>375808556
To bad im not, go cry about shills somewhere else. God forbid someone like a niche game

>>375808768
so this game invented the concept of moving away from enemies to avoid damage, huh

>>375808634
Everyone is a shill :D how dare we like things i must be a dev!

>>375808803
Don't worry, I won't report you for shilling

top 5 modern games that are going to shape up to be something

hardland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPAtg8CGIZE
Mordhau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THKTfTFVfOY
Exanima
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLYj9JfK4-Y
Kingdom come deliverance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcCuoR6fZEg
Snake pass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2BgGDMF_SE

>>375808768

thats not dodging, as i already pointed out. its walking away, there is no active dodging, theres no dodge or guard button. theres no way to trigger a movement option with iFrames

youre a fucking retard. i played hundreds of hours of PSO on dreamcast and gamecube. it has no similarities whatsoever with the souls games. not in setting, gameplay, aesthetics or anything else

>>375808917
Multiplayer for exanima when

>>375808831
Show me a 3rd person game with slow combat that you can dodge enemy attacks before this one that is an rpg

>>375804459
You mean Ultima Underworld, right?

>>375805486
>Ghost Recon: Wildlands GOTY 2017
>out of context Nietzsche quote to give sense of intelectual integrity
>Far Cry 2 offered a tremendously improved experience over Far Cry

This guy sounds like an insufferable faggot

>>375808918
I played dark souls like I played pso
I didnt roll
I walked away and dodged attacks and beat the game fine

There is a guard button in PSO as well

I am not saying that is a carbon copy but it inspired the game
If you cannot see the similarities with your own eyes I feel sorry for you

That other game that came in 2001 even has more of a liking to demon souls

I feel like a combination of those games led up that

>>375808973
by your definition, I would argue that every single 3rd person rpg that came before it has this mechanic of WALKING away from enemies

>>375809076
The same slow battling?
The same if you mess up your movement your dead?

>>375808917

>mordhau
no. its just more of the kind of shit combat from chivalry, m&b and war of the roses

Exanima is pretty excellent but will come to nothing much more than it already is. Sui Generis, the actual full RPG that the devs are working towards using the same engine and mechanics is gonna be something incredible though. http://www.baremettle.com/

>>375808949
I want to traverse a dungeon with people
I wonder if they are going to put magic into the game

>>375809147
I know it is going to be refined
anon do you know anymore games like this

and sui generis

I only heard of exanima i will check it out

>>375809194
I really just want to smash my friends with big hammers

>>375809139
You are severely autistic
Ok, your fucking gay ass game invented the concept of dying from taking damage from enemies forcing you to avoid them, I'm done trying to point out how idiotic you fucking sound

>>375809293
Alright then
You do not show me anything to prove your concept

I am looking for a 3rd person rpg where your specific movement allows for your survival in a game

>>375809075

there was no guard button in PSO, you guarded randomly with increasing frequency if your related stat was high enough, it was like morrowind in that regard

if you played the souls games without dodging or guarding then youre either really fucking stupid, mindlessly determined, a liar, or some combination of those options.

i cant even believe im still replying to such a deluded autistic that doesnt even seem to have played PSO

>>375809253

i've never played anything similar to exanima before sadly. i'd love to try another game like it though

>>375809505
I did guard

and I swear there was a guard button

>>375809586
What would be the closest game to it?

Think about this

A mmo version of exanima with perfected controls

>>375809646

you could guard, but it was random, it happened based on your EVP stat. http://phantasystar.wikia.com/wiki/Evasion

trust me, anon. i played possibly thousands of hours of the original formula PSO games, from PSO, to PSO version 2, to PSO Episodes 1&2, to Blue Burst. you are wrong on all fronts. there was no dodging, there was no active guarding. it was a sci fi rpg with 4 zones. set classes. very few weapons and even fewer unique types.

it doesnt matter if nothing else at the time was as close to demon's souls, according to your very loose definition of close, they are completely incomparable nonetheless

>>375808949
Only (W)LAN multiplayer is a possibility. The devs have been absolutely adamant about longer range multiplayer falling outside the scope of Examina, not least because of how even the slightest bit of latency impacts gameplay.

>>375809194
A prototype for a magic system (Thaumathurgy) will eventually be included in Examina, and expanded upon in Sui Generis.