How does it feel knowing that after hours of arguing and trying

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>Polygon shilling this homo

Good because deep down I know Demon's Souls is the best

It's already unanimously considered the worst in the series.

>>375763387
>among obese, unemployed, unimportant /v/ users

wow anon

I think the worst thing about online "journalism" is how fucking smug they sound in everything they say.

Nah, it will be remembered as the slightly flawed and uninspired sequel that had the most content in the series. A good game that just doesn't quite reach the level that others in the series managed to reach.

>>375763520
wow almost as if the people who dedicate the most time to the hobby know what they're talking about, amazing

SotFS is my favorite souls game hands down, and I could easily go into detail as to why.

But that article looks like obnoxious fucking clickbait. Holding your opinion on which sidegrade of the series you like as fact and telling the "Haters" to suck it is fucking stupid.

"Here's why I like Dark Souls II!" Is a much better setup then "Heh, stupid kids, I have mathematically formulated why Dark Souls II is the best souls game and why you are also dumb and gay".

>>375763197
Why would I care what stupid people and (((journalists))) think? I'll just keep playing Bloodborne and Dark Souls 1 content in the knowledge that I'm right.

>>375763626
>/v/
>knowing shit about vidya
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

Polygon only says DS2 is the best because it's the easiest game in the series. Didn't they want an Easy Mode for DS3 and a "skip gameplay" button for games in general?

I acknowledge all the flaws each Souls game has and still enjoy all of them

>>375763197
It's not the best since Dark Souls 1 and Demon's exist, but I did have a lot more fun with it than I had with Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne

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>>375763323
>being surprised that polygon is endorsing an SJW

>>375763735
It's the minority of neckbeards on the board that criticize the game, the ones who spent the most time with it. Face it, your board is infested with normies with no taste.

Anyone wanna pastebin that?

DeS = DaS > BB >>> DaS3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DaS2

>>375763197
>Post a video and say "Suck it homos!"
Great journalism right there. I mean it's not that different to what /v/ does, but when you've stooped to /v/ levels of shitposting you're hardly a news source.

>>375763197

DSII is a great game though. A lot of the problem lies in the fact that it plays extremely differently from the first, almost feeling like a sequel to Demon's more than anything which led to a lot of people turning up their noses without giving it a fair shake.

>>375763932
These>kind>of>posts>are>what>killed>souls>discussion>on>/v/

>>375763832
One presidential election "won" with memes and now all left extremists have jumped hard into the meme wagon.

It's pretty funny watching them adopt the "winning" strategy and not realise the election was just a shitpost off and the memes were just parts of it.

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In this thread we list things Dark Souls 2 did that were far better than Dark Souls 3. I'll start:

>No bonfire and no death challenge where you can beat the game without resting at a bonfire or dying to gain a reward and bragging rights

>Non-linear first half of the game allows you to rush straight to the areas of the game that contain the items for your build

>Chugging Estus immobilizes you, and the heal isn't instantaneous meaning trying to chug while someone is sticking close to you will result in death

>Stamina regeneration is tied to weight, so a character at 10% burden will recover their bar faster than a character at 70% burden, giving an advantage and a reason to make a low burden character

>Poise exists and armor provides relevant, but not overpowering damage reduction, giving an advantage and a reason to make a high burden character

>Phantoms and Dark Spirits cannot chug estus, spirits can only heal via spell useage which is slow. This makes fighting outnumbered even without mob assistance possible since any damage you do sticks

>Can only perform four rolls before running out of stamina

>Can only perform 5 attacks of a rapier or straight sword before running out of stamina

>Parrying has longer recovery frames and consumes more stamina, making parry fishing riskier and makes parrying require higher skill

>Power stance allowing for unique combinations of dual wielding and unlocking an alternative moveset for weapons

>Being able to use the full moveset of a weapon in your off-hand including running, rolling, backstepping, etc. attacks rather than just being able to do a basic R1 swing and blocking with the weapon as it is in Ds3 (lmao who would ever want to weapon block)

>Bell Tower covenant providing two unique optional areas to PvP for Titanite Chunks, Slabs, and Twinkling, making farming for upgrades fun

>Bonfire ascetics to replay bosses you like and or gain items from NG+ and beyond without grinding through the whole game again

>>375764094
nobody wants to discuss souls anymore fag it's just an open invitation to shit post

>>375763197
>Make a video complaining about people parroting a single video
>Video get's parroted everywhere

>>375764232
Honestly, I thought the level design of the entire game was brilliant. Every single area was super memorable and was packed with neat stuff.

I can remember almost every single part of that game. I don't fucking remember shit about DS3 besides cathedrals and shanty-towns. It all just blurred together while DS2 stuck with me vividly.

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>>375764232
NOOOOOOOOOOO THESE ARE FALSE

I don't think this game is that good

>Fuck you! Here's an hour long analysis of why it actually is good!

That's great but I'm still not really a fan of it

>Faggot! Just git gud! You're just bad at it!

Souls fags are THE most epic fanbase

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>yfw 3 of the top 14 rated games on Metacritic are Dark Souls 2

>>375764232
>Non-linear first half of the game allows you to rush straight to the areas of the game that contain the items for your build

Despite the fact that the idea of a "build" is completely thrown out the window with the introduction of soul memory?

>Chugging Estus immobilizes you

But eating lifegems doesn't.

>Can only perform 5 attacks of a rapier or straight sword before running out of stamina

Despite this the ice rapier is still high in the meta for PVP.

>Parrying has longer recovery frames and consumes more stamina, making parry fishing riskier and makes parrying require higher skill

Only if you got to play the game obscenely late into it's life, after they patched back-step parry.

The shit I didn't touch on is true, but for every step forward the game took it took 10 back.

>>375764881
>But eating lifegems doesn't.
they take a long time to eat and they take a long time to heal you. They are meant to be healing items used between enemies to make up for the fact you only start with 1 estus and have to work for more.

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I'll just leave this here.

>>375764232
DELETE THIS

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>>375764232
I got one word.
Aldia.
Everything connected to this flaming head dude is far more deep than anything in DS3. The lore implications of the possibilites opened by the Leave the Throne ending were staggering.

And Dark Souls 3 promptly ignored it.

>come to /v/
>Dark Souls causes big assburgers

This means it's a good series, right?

>>375764881
>the idea of a "build" is completely thrown out the window with the introduction of soul memory

What the fuck are you even talking about?

>>375763197
the fact that you have to defend dark souls 2 so hard, means how bad dark souls 2 is

it will always be terrible to casual people, it will always be terrible to hardcore people

the only ones that think otherwise are the people that try to shill this video

Unrelated
Should i get Dark Souls 3 w/o DLC or Nier:Automata?
I'm poor

>>375765262
Ok so this is probably a noob question but like what is aldia when you meet him? Like obviously he and Vendrick were experimenting with trying to stop the curse and they were mostly unsucessful, then when you meet him hes somehow become this demigod type thing. What is he and what exactly happened for him to become like that.

>>375764232
Fuck you, literally no one with a brain would defend the clusterfuck that is gargle cum 2. Das1,3 and des surpassed it in every way.

>>375765395
>the fact that you have to defend non-whites so hard, means how bad non-whites are

>>375765310
There's no reason to not keep leveling up with how soul memory works.

>>375763197
I liked that video but the guy who made it is a smug condescending cunt and a moron.

>>375765262

I kinda consider Dark Souls II the continuation from DS1's Dark Lord ending and III taking place after linking the flame.

>>375764731
>Best reviewed of 2014
I wonder why Demon Souls, Dark Souls 1 and 3 or Bloodborne aren't there.

>>375765483
Not an argument.

>>375765565
aka Shitaku

>>375764881
>>375765483

DS3 has very little original content.

Souls vet here, this is my take on things as someone who has obsessively played the shit out of DeS and DaS1 since their respective launches on PS3.

Concepts:

>New Firelink Shrine (DaS3) == The Nexus (DeS)
The resemblance is fucking stunning if you've ever played DeS. Lord Thrones are in the exact same alignment that the archstones are, surrounding where you spawn in, with multiple levels of height within the area accessible by curved staircases.

>Lothric Castle (DaS3) == Boletaria Castle (DeS)
You start the game here, and the climax of the game is here (fighting twin princes/false king allant).

>Karla (DaS3) == Yuria the Witch (DeS)
Karla teaches forbidden hex magic/miracles/pyromancies that channel the power and rage of the abyss, Yuria the Witch teaches forbidden magic that channel the power and rage of demon souls.

> Stormruler (DaS3) == Storm Ruler (DeS)
Used to take down mighty foes with a legendary sword found in the corresponding boss arenas. Yhorm and the Storm King are basically the same type of "puzzle boss" until you find the sword.

Mechanics:

> FP (DaS3) == MP (DeS)
Literally the same exact shit.

> Rolling
Functions the same exact way as DeS, because med rolling was buffed so fucking hard that the difference between fast roling and med rolling is so small that staying right under the fat roll minimum is required for every build.

Case-in-point, DaS3 is super fucking stale for veterans who have been with the series since DeS in 2009/2010. It's literally because the game is around 50% recycled DaS content, 30% recycled DeS content, 10% recycled bloodborne content, and 10% original content.

>>375763197
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, faggot

>>375765483
>t. ds1 shitter who got his ass wrecked by running head first into rooms, pulling 6 mobs and then came to cry about it on /v/

>>375764881
>Soul memory meme
Agape ring nigga.
>Life gem meme
This is fair, I would remove the life gems from the shop at least.
>ice rapier meme
roll side wise.

>>375765623
No, the video isn't by kotaku itself, its some guy on youtube
I like hour-long overanalysis videos so I watched it whole, but the guy is both an unlikeable cunt and pretty dumb aswell. He was reaching hard with a lot of his arguments, and you could totally hear how much he enjoyed being contrarian, and thats coming from someone who enjoyed DaS2

he has fair points, but i still found the game unenjoyable

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Highlights of Dark Souls 2:

>That moment when you reach the forest zone and realize the game has PS2 graphics because the darkness mechanic was scrapped at the last second
>That moment at the bottom of the first forest zone where you try to run through a quickly closing door where a salamander shoots fireballs only to realize there is an invisible wall where the door it.
>Pre-Patch Shrine of Amana forcing you to pick up a ranged weapon.
>Elevator to the magical sky volcano.
>Life gems exist for reasons no one will ever know.
>That room that has 10 too many enemies in it
>The next 90% of the rooms in the game also having 10 too many enemies in it
>The bonfire above the Batiste where NPCs actually attack you while you are sitting at a bonfire.
>NG+ just adding in mobs to boss fights because thats what true challenge is
>Utterly shitting the bed with story.
>Cracked orbs only
>Covenants that flat out dont work.
>The rat covenant in general.
>pants on head retarded weapon upgrade system

Power stancing was kinda cool I guess tho'

>>375765460
>What is he and what exactly happened for him to become like that.
No one knows. No item description saying anything about it and he doesn't talk about his new form except that he failed to break the cycle.

It just looks like a similar situation with the bed of chaos where it's life gone rampant. Hence the roots.

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>>375763197
>Game """"""journalists"""""" can't even write their own shitty clickbait articles and now they just put other people's videos into their articles and they still think they wrote an original article

>>375765679
The development team seems to have fallen for its own marketing and become creatively dried out. Half of DS3 was "muh prepare to die hardcore" and "check out this epic reference to a previous game", and it totally drowned out whatever else 3 had to offer.
Also I still can't forgive them re-using the DaS 1 skeleton and animations, it looks terrible

>>375764232
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
MODS
I DEMAND YOU DELETE THIS AND BAN THIS POSTER

>>375763934
In Polygon's case it's also just straight-up leeching. "Let's put ourselves between our dipshit readers and this content we were too stoopid to make."

>>375763323
keke holy shit is this the new EBgames meme

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>>375765395
I started writing a multi-paragraph post on why this post is silly but I ended up deleting it and I think I'm just going to call you gay instead

>>375763197
>Click bait site
>Relevant opinion
I'd take anything said on /v/ more seriously than the leeches at a click bait 'gaming' sites.

>>375763197
That video was actually terrible, probably his worst game analysis.

>>375764196
why are you putting those words in quotes when they're true

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>>375764232
DELET

Well it is the best souls game so nothing wrong there. Most of its problems like soul memory are not directly affecting the gameplay whilst it's gameplay is the best in the series

>>375764232
What happened to muh darkness though?

>>375766805
soul memory is fixed with the agape ring anyways.

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>>375765812
>Elevator to the magical sky volcano.

Hello, I like to refute this idiotic statement whenever someone as stupid as yourself makes it. Please take a moment to think about how badly you have just been BTFO.

>>375766967
>technique

>>375766935
I never ever had a problem with soul memory in SotFS when using the ring. I was able to play reliably with my friends the entire way through.

>>375764232
DELETE THIS

DELETE THIS.

>>375765262
Also, i want someone to give me an honest answer as to why they dropped EVERYTHING to do with Aldia in 3? Because fuck em for that.

>>375763387
Ds3 and BB were worse.
DS2 is unarguably the best co-op souls though.
Best is either Dark1 or Demons

>>375766967
Yeah I can see the giant mountain in the picture, earthen peak is built RIGHT into it.
I liked DS2 a lot but it was definitely the low point of the series in terms of encounter design and world cohesion.

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>>375763680
the only reasonable person here

>>375764232

-Build variety, even with Adaptability you could make a random build that's viable.

>>375763387
rekt

Notice how other Soulsfags don't make defense videos about the games they think are the best.

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>>375764232

>>375766967
>no mountains in the background
>iron keep elevator is completely submerged in lava

How the fuck does that work?

>>375767121Ds3 is better than DDS2 in every way but PvP, DS2 PvP depth still hasn't been beat.

>>375767262
The problem with 3 is that every single thing in it is derivative as fuck and nothing is interesting.
>DeS
introduced everything about the series and was an incredibly original, unique game
>DaS
improved on DeS combat, had much more content and introduced an amazing, interconnected world with rich, interesting new lore. Had much better boss fights than DeS. Expanded on multiplayer mechanics and generally just feels more fleshed out.
>DaS 2
went backwards and made a lot of missteps, especially with art direction, lore, and gameplay but it still introduced new mechanics that should have come back in 3. Powerstancing and proper dual wielding are amazing and exponentially increase the amount of builds. Has a large variety of cool armor sets, and generally a fucking staggering amount of content, especially with all DLC. Has a more high-fantasy vibe than the others, which is sometimes interesting and sometimes cheesy. It has the best PvP in the series.
>Bloodborne
Changed combat drastically, introducing a new dodge mechanic and transforming weaponry. Every weapon is very interesting and totally viable. The game has a completely new setting and theme with a very interesting twist. Decently connected world with great individual level design
>DaS 3
Introduced weapon arts, a staggeringly underwhelming mechanic that is barely ever used in an interesting fashion. No areas or bosses are very memorable at all and like 80% of the game is DaS 1 callbacks. Actively stripped stat complexity and combat complexity from previous titles.

>>375767121
>BB was worse
Come the fuck on man.

Des = DaS = Bloodborne > DaS3 >>>> DaS2

True patrician taste, anyone who thinks otherwise is not a real OG. If you didn't play all the games on release your opinion is irrelevant and probably shit.

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>>375763197
That's retarded, it's not even close to the masterpiece that is the original. It's better than 3 though.

Yes it is, fite me irl phagit.

>>375767349
Yeah it didn't innovate much, but "More of the same" was superior to 2's changes in the vast majority of cases. Also you're taking the piss if you think there are 0 memorable areas in 3, even though the game IS incredibly derivative.

>>375765563
just trust that other people wont be faggots like you and cap at level 120-130 you dumbass

>>375767352
DeS isn't as good as you think it is. It was a proof of concept that was later refined well.

>>375767121
>DS2 is unarguably the best co-op souls though
>Lmaonoinvasions
>Fun

>>375767352
I played all games on release and I can still say that I liked Scholar the most. I've ended up dumping more hours in it than any other souls game.

God, 3 was just so fucking boring. I remember playing it and going "On paper, this game is amazing, I should be blown away, so why do I just feel bored?"

I love big spooky cathedrals as much as the next guy but man that game is honestly just a chore. I can go back and play Scholar now and love every minute of it.

>>375767431
ummmmm town, cathedral, cathedral, swamp, cathedral, castle, dark area
did i miss anything?

>>375767546
>Update
Frankly lmaonoinvasions is better than 3's invasions, period. I only invade because I like being at a massive disadvantage in fights and going 3 and 4v1

I get the feeling that people defend DaS2 just because it is the unpopular thing to do. Honestly, I can't even fathom how someone would even like that pile of shit. Sorry Tanimura, you tried your best to salvage the abortion that the game would have been but it's still a piece of shit, uninteresting game.

What I hate about Ds2 is that it immediately puts you through the old "collect 4 souls" shtick once you hit drangelic.

I thought a lot of people complained about that, why the fuck did they bring it back? At least in 1, by the time you were tired of it, you were already at the end.

>>375767717
Yeah, you missed the part where you smelled your own farts because you managed to oversimplify areas.

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>>375763197
>Joeseph "Aryan-Man" Anderson spends an hour an half meticulously analyzing DaS2 and explains in autistic detail why it's not that bad over a year ago.
>Fucking nothing

>Some literally who SJW copypastes his video and throws in some condescension and shit talking Matthewmatosis for good measure.
>Coverage out the ass and shilled by Super Best Friends

Really tickles my whistles.

>>375763197
best of a terrible series is a worthless title

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>harshly criticizes Fallout 3 and its fanbase
>literally uses the same headcanon-based argumentation and excuses that Bethesdapologists use to justify their tastes in his "defense" of DS2
Really nods the nodes.

>>375767760
The fact that now "DaS2 is a good game" jumps straight into "DaS2 is the best game" shows me everything.

Contrarianism, it's deep in DaS2fags's blood.

>>375767725
I'd consider 3 better than 2 simply because everything multiplayer related that isn't dueling (dueling too to an extent) isn't fucked beyond repair.

DaS3 invaders are depressing though. I wouldn't be surprised if another Souls/like game was ever made that invaders would just be removed completely considering how much From clearly doesn't like them.

>>375763579
>Anon wrongly accuses journalists of being smug and that's a good thing

>>375767836
His points aren't even GOOD, that's the worst bit.
>bringing back collectable consumables was good because nobody enjoyed running out of estus!

>>375764232
>Guard break that actually works and prevents turtling

>Rolls no matter how much ADP you got, have a lengthy recovery, forcing you to time your rolls or face the consequences

>Stamina recovery has a cooldown after you take an action that consumes stamina, making stamina management an actual thing

>Spamming r1 is a horrible idea because fast spammy weapons have shit tracking, something which was completely lost in ds3 and contributed to the death of PvP

>Small soapstone coop and invasions being always possible, even on areas you revisit

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LADS, I keep getting my shit fucking recd on DeS against the Maneaters. How the fuck do I beat them without cheesing magic or arrows.

>>375767542
Why isn't it as good as I think it is? Because you went in it trying to be a hip guy that played the original and you were disappointed when you found out you couldn't jump? On release, Demon's Souls was a breath of fresh air, unique and absolutely incredible. What the fuck do you mean it's not as good as I "think" it is.

>>375767542
No, I'm pretty sure it is.

>>375767930
I just think its the last 2 souls games were so bad that it makes ds2 look great in retrospect.

>>375768106
>on release
That's the magic word. DeS has been surpassed by its successors but you rate it alongside them.

Hardcore DS2 defender here: That video is fucking garbage and hbomber is a massive faggot

>>375768149
I wouldn't call it equal to DS1 or BB. It's a great game but it got improved upon.

>>375768057
Guardbreak is absolute garbage because it removes the kick, which is completely unacceptable.

It would be great if it had both, but it doesn't, so it isn't.

>>375764232
>No bonfire and no death challenge
That means absolutely nothing, the incentive for doing those types of runs in Dark Souls 1 were for the thrill and test of skill. Not two useless rings.

>Non-linear first half
Which was pretty fucking moot as DaS2 meta was the most restrictive trash out there thanks to Soul Memory. You either kept up with the Jonses and forced through areas or got emoted on

>Chugging Estus immobilizes you and stamina management
Made moot by DaS3's up in mobility in every aspect. Don't go throwing out "it's different therefore it's better" to defend 2 while using "it's different therefore it's shit" to attack 3

>Poise exists and armor provides relevant
That's true

>Phantoms and Dark Spirits cannot chug estus
That's something they should've kept. But they should've made it to where the only invaders who can estus chug would be those summoned for PVP by the host

>Can only perform 4 rolls
That pretty much goes against having an RPG mechanic for the sake of equity among players. However in DaS2 defence, the slower gameplay did benefit from this. Roll spam in DaS3 is a problem for early on players who don't know how to contain their enemies.

>Can only perform 5 attacks
See above

>Parrying
What you mentioned is post like 3 or 4 patchs.

>Powerstancing
This was great for DaS2 (until you got to the mentioned trash meta). But wouldn't have worked with DaS3, hence the weapon arts

>Weapon hands
This I miss even though it did make certain items useless as giant weapons could have the same parry window as a buckler. But with refinement it would have been even better

>Bell Tower
>fun
pick one

>Bonfire ascetics
This

>>375767836
>Coverage out the ass and shilled by Super Best Friends
you mean pat the fucking retard who parrots shit he finds on neogaf

>>375763520
hey asshole!

don't forget about the rail thin, nasally, poindexters!

or is THAT the stereotype?

>>375768401
Even Woolie told him that it was a shit video. How will he ever recover now?

>>375768370

Allow me to sum up Dark Souls 3 for you:

>Member Artorias? here's abysswatchers!
>Member Oolacile and blightown? Here they are in one area!
>Member Pinwheel? Here he is as a sage, twice!
>Member congregation? Here it is even worse!
>Member Bloodborne? Here's a entire village with copy-pasted bloodborne assets.
>Member the catacombs? Here's some more catacombs
>Member Izalith? Here it is with some of the exact same enemies
>Member Black Knights?
>Member Silver Knights?
>Member AnorLondo?
>Member Darkmoon invasions? Haha just kidding, theres no BEO
>Member Gwyndolin? here he is.
>Member Priscilla? Heres a QT 3.14 version of her.
>Member Yuria the witch? Here's a copy of her.
>Member Tower of Latria? Here's the same level
>Member Giant Lord and Storm King? Here a fight with both of them!
>Member the Hellfire Drake? Here's two drakes!
>Member Ornstein?
>Member the Astral Clocktower from TOH?
>Member Kiln of the First FLame?
>MEMBER GWYN?

>>375765679
DaS3 felt like "Souls Greatest Hits" to me. There weren't any areas that felt bad or overly punishing, and there's a lot of different variety, but the whole thing was recycled and nothing stood out. I'd gladly take the uneven brilliance of DeS or DaS1 over DaS3 any day.

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>it's a "/v/ basement dwellers think they know better than large playerbases, game critics, and the entire industry" episode
I've had enough of these re-runs.

>>375763197
Dark Souls 2 was good for From to experiment and make errors to evolve the masterstroke that was BB.
DeS and DaS1 are basically the same game combat wise with a few adjusted mechanics (with DaS1 making the error of poise).
DaS2 was a complete departure that was hit-and-miss with various mechanics and changes.
BB was the masterpiece.
DaS3 was too scared to forge it's own identity due to Namco clamping down on the departures that DaS2 made.

>>375763197
Of course polygon of all sites would shill this awful video. This writer probably knows Hbomberguy personally for fucks sake.

This shit game is 3 fucking years old, when is it finally going to go the fuck away?

>>375768287
You wouldn't, but I would.

Souls series needs more gimmick bosses.

>>375768487
DaS1 was as much of a masterpiece as Bloodborne.

>>375768328
Kick has comedy value, they could have stuck with the kick animation for that reason I guess.

>>375767202
/v/ isnt a board for logic or reason.

>>375763323
GOLEM GET YE GONE

>>375768461
Nice copypasta. I like how you instantly go shitting on 3 when we're discussing the faults in common praises given to 2, as if that's not suspicious.

Besides, Dark Souls 2 has all of that in spades. Hell, the item descriptions are all "this belonged to someone who may have been in Dark Souls 1....or was it?".

>>375768461
>Member Tower of Latria? Here's the same level
I fucking wish.

Still #1.

>>375768649
It's also the number one way of dealing with hackers.

>>375768812
>or was it
WHY DID THEY ALWAYS TRY TO ADD AMBIGUITY IN THE DESCRIPTIONS

looking back, it really wasn't that bad of a game.

I think it ended up getting a bad rap because the game turned out hideous and they completely scrapped the lighting mechanics.

>>375768474
if its the greatest hits the series must be shit.

>>375764603
Agreed 2bh.

Sure it didn't fit together coherently at all, the world design was pretty shit but at least the zones themselves were cool. And if gave you branching paths instead of the linear slog that was DaS3.

>>375764232
>Reddit spacing

>>375763197
How am I supposed to be convinced by a guy who's hour long video can be summed up by "Look at MatthewMatosis fucking up in the gameplay, that totally means his criticisms are invalid". Why the fuck is a "journalist" taking a hard stance and acting like what one faggots opinions lobbied against another faggots opinions is inherently correct?

Jesus christ, these people need to google Yellow Journalism and then look at their own content

>>375768931
Very few people actually canned it as the worst game ever when it came out, it was just almost universally considered worse than 1.

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Stop falling for clickbait you retards. Also that guy is a faggot contrarian that makes /v/ look like normies.

As much as I've hated that Matthewmatosis video for all this time this new one is far worse.

>>375768916
Oh yes, ambiguity that's as graceful as someone screaming "NO ONE'S HIDING OVER HERE" while playing hide and go seek. Real clever there B-Team.

>>375768370
Ds2 had the widest set of viable weapons in the game, including the fucking handmaiden's ladle. Idk what the fuck you're smoking if you think any of the other games came even close to this.

Even with ds3's greater mobility punishing chugs is impossible because you can't out-trade the instant heal with a running attack, and that's assuming the other person doesn't simply spam rolls until you guess wrong and get a free full HP. When someone went for the chug in ds2 it was a guaranteed backstab, not a running attack which fyi were nerfed in damage in ds3

>>375769068
>Using proper paragraph spacing to segment thoughts and statement is reddit

You'd hold your breath if you found out reddit breathes air

>>375764232
DELETE THIS IMMEDIATELY

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I liked 2 the most. It started consistently good while 1 tapered off and 3 was all around mediocre.

It also has my favorite and most atmospheric boss fights.

>>375763197
The series is over. Why would you debate this any longer? Just let it rest.

Well it's not as good as the others(haven't played completely through 3 yet) but 2 has a really compelling story and has a lot of lore.

>>375769310
>DaS2 had the widest variety
And a good majority were throw away weapons that were not realistically viable outside of purposefully making the game more difficult on you as the player. That's not really a pro, but it's not a con either.

>wahhh roll spam
What are throwing knives? What is frostbite? What is bleed? What is keeping pressure up and staying on their ass wearing light armor so you can roll farther than they can? What is weapon arts?

>chugging in DaS2 was a guaranteed backstab
I distinctively remember most people baiting others into chugging for dark magic funtime but whatever floats your boat.

>>375765713
>Agape ring nigga.
>unless someone breaks your weapons and rings with corrosive urns or acid surge
>or if you want any ammo for your crossbow or bow
>or if you want to buy or upgrade anything at all
It's a band-aid fix at best and introduces more problems than it fixes at worse.

>>375763197
>all the comments pointing out hbomber's fucked logic
>scarecrow's matthewmatosis's video and points to make his look better
>hbomber is a filthy SJW
wow you really got me OP

>>375770056
>filthy SJW
Who also has a successful hobby, is popular, and has a social life. Unlike /pol/.

>>375769836
>And a good majority were throw away weapons
I will never forgive From for what they did to the BKUGS in DaS2

>Have a fun and unique weapon
>Give it the generic ultra greatsword moveset because fuck you

>>375767836
>Joseph "Aryan-Man" Anderson BTFO's Matthew "The Potato Nigger Trigger" Kektosis and is now rapidly overtaking him in subs

is he actually /ourguy/?

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They're all amazing games

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I was thinking that DaS2 is superior to DaS3 until I've dicovered MEMESWORD OF FARRON
Holy shit niggers this is one of my favorite swords EVER and you can unleash its SICK combo with just one trigger!

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>>375770414
Considering his recent Zelda review btfo of Nintendogaf we could hope.

>>375769836
Having all those weapons be viable especially in PvP made the game amazing to play. No other souls game is even close to having the joy of beating a Havel RIT/CB/ice rapier faggot with a ladle while spamming 'no way' all the way through.

Your iframes in rolls in 3 negate the damage from statuses like bleed and frostbite, even though they can be built through iframes rendering them useless. Weapon arts got recovery so if you commit to one and they roll it's a free chug. Even the god of all pressure weapons, the washing pole, can't out trade a chug. Knives deal even less damage and all 40 of them won't outdamage a single chug.

>>375765425

Depends on whether you want something new or not

DS3 is competent and polished but it's just more of the same.

Nier is great and very unique but with some rough edges

>>375770482
>unironically believes Cancer Souls III is a ((((((good))))))) game

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>>375770482
This! Arguing on which one is better is like forcing me to choose between mama and papa.

>>375770725
Die DS2 fag

>>375765262
>lore implications

There are non. Aldia straight up tells you there's no solution to the light and dark shit, so your character just walks off like a depressed, faggot. The ending is just acceptance because throughout the whole game you WANT to know the solution.

lord kek says git gud scrubs and play demon souls

>>375763197
People can be wrong.

Also, Call of Duty sells.

>>375770769
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over my huge weapon variety. But hey, I'm are sure your straight swords are good too

>>375770218
>has a social life
kek
SJW's are social failures and trump winning only proves that everyone is tired of their shit and wants them gone

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>>375764232
>More than two colors and environments

>DeS & DaS
Art
>DS2
Fanmod
>DS3
Fanservice

Don't know how to fit Bloodborne into this but it was far better than 2/3 but the bosses were kinda lame and it's short as hell

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I like Dark Souls 2 but that video in OP is a piece of trash in response to another piece of trash.

>>375763197
>adp

no

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2 had by far the worst bosses, levels and atmosphere, the only good things about it were the pursuer, bonefire ascetics or DLC
if you rate 2 highly for it's PVP you're playing the wrong game series

>>375770793
What the hell are you talking about? Walking away from the Kiln is essentially the Dark ending. But with the addition that you broke the curse for yourself by harnessing the three crowns.
The character in SotFS is still undead, but can no longer hollow.

>>375771332
>pumps cheese stats and heavily upgrades his weapons
>doesn't even bother with the DLCs
>"muh bad bosses"
>secretly let's his gf cuck him

>>375766967
>YOU SEE, IT WORKS IF YOU JUST IMAGINE THE ELEVATOR HAD A TUNNEL FIVE THOUSAND MILES LONG THAT LED TO A MOUNTAIN THAT YOU JUST NEED TO PRETEND IS THERE AND IT WORKS
Well that really kindled my bonfire

>>375768482
haha yeah, its only /v/ who had mixed feelings on dark souls 2 buddy. go back to your reddit echochamber.

>>375770898
>>375770218
hell with that logic you could argue that /pol/ is more successful that him

>>375763197
Feeling pretty good. I've been saying this shit for years.

DaS2 > DaS > BB > DaS3 > DeS

>>375771527
>unironically thinks binary code some Japanese pervert wrote should emulate real life perfectly

>>375770958
retard

>>375764603
I'm the exact opposite, I can remember pretty distinctly nearly every level of Dark Souls 3, and I can barely remember anything for most of 2

And I played DS2 only a few months before DS3 came out

>>375771528
retard

>>375771746
nope.

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>>375771474
what are you even trying to say with this post, subhuman
DAS2 bosses are suddenly amazing if you don't level up or upgrade weapons?
typical DAS2 fan

>>375764232
S H O C K W A V E S
H O C K W A V E S
O C K W A V E S
C K W A V E S
K W A V E S
W A V E S
A V E S
V E S
E S
S

>>375771746
*ricard

>>375771685
>I can remember pretty distinctly nearly every level of Dark Souls 3
You mean all the forests, all the undead burgs and even the bloodborne village? whoah

>>375771795
>he picked Bandit

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>>375763323

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>>375771641
More like:
DaS2 > DaS1 = DaS3 > DeS = BB
On a scale from 5.0 to 6.0

>>375771365
I never said it was any different than the dark lord ending. Your character just walks away in acceptance, but it's still the dark lord ending.

>>375770623
OK. I'll get Nier and wait for DS3 to go on sale. Thanks anon.

>>375771914
I love how Dylan fits in there so perfectly
This is the greatest image ever made

>>375771795
casul

>>375763197
>Calling people "haters" then say you will convince them

"journalism"

>>375771914
That asian-y guy in the middle doesn't look old enough to be on the internet unaccompanied.

>>375771790
You'll criticize any boss if you can steamroll them, and that's what you faggots do

>>375771993
To bad he's buttraped in prison right now.

>>375772019
You're a piece of shit and no one loves you ya ugly CUNT, now listen to this video that will convince you I'm not an asshole.

For the last fucking time, DS2 can not be the best, the progression curve stagnates right after the first area, nothing improves after that. Not the boss fights, not the story, not the characters, not the level design, it's such a flat, boring experience.

Not to forget Soul Memory was a pain and the Agape Ring is such a tedious workaround.

>>375771896
The level design is what matters, and DS3 level design destroys DaS2. Even in variety, the Dragon area was more atmospheric than any DS2 area. The only environmental concept I felt was properly executed was the Shrine of Amana.

>>375763626
this

>>375771474
>This RPG is good if you don't play it like an RPG and ignore half the mechanics
It's so easy to become overpowered in this game. My first playthrough I thought I must've done something 'wrong' when I was suddenly demolishing every boss even though I never did any grinding.
Turns out the balance is just broken.

>>375763197
/v/ is hivemind with this shit for whatever reason. I liked Dark Souls 2 better than Dark Souls 3, however Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne are both significantly better.

>>375763932
accurate

>>375763760
/thread

>>375766805
From the perspective of somebody that doesn't lock on to enemies 99% of the time, the gameplay is the worst in the series by such a huge margin that my particular playstyle isn't even playable.

>lol deadzones
>lol can't turn a swing more than 90 degrees
>lol beyblade enemies
>lol shockwaves

absolute dogshit entry polluting a great series

>>375772080
I could beat every boss in DAS2 naked with a +0 caestus it doesn't make them good
If you think Dragonriders(s), Covetous Demon, Flexile Sentry, Last Giant, Congregation, Freja, The Rotten, Old Iron King, Throne Watchers or Nashandra are good then you're the biggest faggot in this thread

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>>375766242
>he thinks memes caused Trump

>>375770793
>Aldia straight up tells you there's no solution to the light and dark shit, so your character just walks off like a depressed
No he doesn't. He says that whatever answer is out there can't be found with the old methods so a new path has to be forged.

Your character doesn't walk away in depression. He literally shakes his hand in determination and walks out into the unknown.

>>375763197
>literally posting a YouTube video as a job

I wish I could land one of these cushy vidya journo jobs

>>375771648
No but I do unironically think people going to such lengths to defend what is just a shitty level transition are retards.

>>375771990

Nier's pretty great, hope you like it.

Might be worth your while to watch a Nier Replicant breakdown video so you know the prior story going in. It's not essential to the plot of Automata but expect some missing details in your understanding of the world without it

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>No, seriously, Dark Souls 2 is the best souls game

Why do they write titles this way? It makes them sound like actual idiots.

>>375771937>>375771365

>I never said it was any different than the dark lord ending. Your character just walks away in acceptance, but it's still the dark lord ending.
The dark lord ending isn't the leave ending. The Dark Lord ending for DS2 is the same one as the Link ending. The Herald tells you that no matter what happens, you hold the options on what you want to do with the fire. Those are the same two options DS1 gave you. Years later and i'm still surprised how people get this wrong.

>>375771914
what the fucks is wrong with that guys neck?

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DaS - One of the greatest games I've ever played

DaS II - DaS but with pastels, on LSD, with a waifu and pirates.

DaS III - No idea. I fell asleep.

>>375771896
Dark Souls 3 had level design that made me actually want to explore every area to find new, hidden shortcuts and items, for DS2, the pure amount of levels and relative brevity of a lot of them made me just want to power through them as fast as possible (exceptions being the two main forest levels and Lost Bastille)

>>375770578
>Even the god of all pressure weapons, the washing pole, can't out trade a chug

The washing pole isn't the god of all pressure weapons, that title belongs to curved swords.

Don't do running attacks when people go to chug, stay near by and when they decide to drink up walk up to them and hit them with two r1s (wont work with the washing pole) . Pretty much every weapon in the game can easily out damage an estus or at the very least negate it

nice try Tomohiro

>>375772980
>DaS - One of the greatest games I've ever played
woah... so this.... is the power...... of nu-/v/.......

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>>375773226
>being this cucked

>>375770048
Not to mention the fact taht you have to kill a bare minimum of three bosses, and blow a branch on straid to get at it.

People who say the agape ring did anything are simply people who never pvp'd alot, or never did co op playthroughs with friends.

>>375773193
Not true. Curved swords are the best all-around weapons because they're dagger speed with GS damage but they don't have thrust counters or reacg, making them worse for pressure. Avelyn and wp are the pressure kings.

Yes you can outdamage estus if the opponent does not even try to run away to chug. If they know what sprinting and rolling are you're fucked m8 and they're gonna end up with more health than they started with

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>>375773226
Sorry, I haven't gotten the updated list of games you can mention on /g/ without being called a faggot.

Hold up. Just came in. Here it is:

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Played all games. r8 my taste -

> BB>>>>DaS1 First Half=DeS>DaS2>DaS3>>>>>>>DaS1 second half

DaS1 second half is a terrible, terrible mess, and i was so fucking dissapointed at it

DaS3 was honestly fun, but god i hate how they decided to listen to that stupid meme of "das2 is shit" and ignore anything from it.

Bloodborne is the best game in the series. and i wished it was on PC, fuck PS4 even if have a one.

DeS is actually the hardest one, and also a very good fucking game that would have been placed higher if i played it with not dead online (europe)

DaS2 with the DLC is a fine game. sure, some levels were off, and the downgrade was depressing, but the game is memorable for me as bloodborne/DeS, unlike DaS3 and the HORRIBLE second half of DaS1

the amount of builds, coop everywhere, amazing pvp, good covenants (some of them are PVE and GOOD in that regard).
I will never forget putting HOURS on release on bellfagging and Ratfagging, because it was THAT fun.

this is PVE wise ranking. PVP?

> DaS2>>>>>>BB>DaS1>>>>>>>DaS3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DeS (the very least i managed to get was horrifying with scrapping spear and all the other nightmares)

>>375763197
Wow they're just posting someone elses video on their website.What absolute shit.
>>375763680
>the SotFS is a different game from DS2 because it has slightly different enemy placement meme
Shut the fuck up retard

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>>375773226
nu-"insert dumb thought" is a meme now.

I grew up in the 90's. I don't need this nu-shit twice in my life. Korn was enough.

>soul memory means you can't infinitely co-op at a certain boss without getting knocked out of the co-op range for it
absolutely criminal, I loved spending hours in undead burg and parish on new playthroughs

>>375773789
The last 4 areas of DS1 aren't half of the game, and half of that """""""half"""""" isn't bad

>>375763197
The contrarianism of this board has leaked out to the public.
DS2 is the worst DS. It's only saving grace is the Scholar re-release

>>375774004
I legitimately don't understand this meme that the second half of DS1 is bad, the only area that's actually bad is the entirety of the areas behind Blighttown, and even that's not that bad

>>375773876
Its used to mock people if that helps

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>>375773357
>>375773694
>>375773876
gr8 reaction images :)

jk kys

>>375774004
>>375774124
Lost Izalith is terrible but TOG, Dukes and New Londo weren't that bad, aside from the crystal caves stretch and having to die to Seath
New Londo is actually pretty good for allowing an experienced player to dive into a fucking hard area right off the bat

>>375772580
those aren't even the bad bosses.
Lets fucking talk about the royal rats, ruin sentinals, velsdadt, or the 3rd boss in any of the DLC's.

>>375773897
>But anon, just use the ring that prevents you from gaining any souls at all. It's not like you need souls for anything anyways

Dark Souls 2 is the gift that just keeps on giving.

Because it's evidence that this shittastic board can only think in extremes.

There are things it does better than DS1 and there are things it does worse.

Now fuck off or suck my dick.

>>375774261
hi /pol/yp

>>375774261
please do not refer to s4s
you are not welcome

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>>375774261
>reaction images

>You can get paid to post someone else's video instead of making your own arguments

Damn.

>>375774370
Ruin Sentinels and Velstadt are okay, the former feels like a co-op fight and the latter is way too slow
But holy jesus FUCK the royal rats I had blanked them out of my mind over how bad they were

>>375763197
Dark Souls 2 did many things right. And certainly could have been the best. And it's still a good or arguably great game.
But it also did many things wrong right along side every thing it did right.

To this day I almost can't believe the game honestly punishes you for amassing souls. Even if you lose or don't even spend them.

>>375774394
>Now fuck off or suck my dick.
...h-how about you fuck my gf and I suck you clean afterwards, tough guy?

>>375763197
>I want clickbait views
>post clickbait video
wow it's like western people would never fall for this bait

>>375774394
Bring your dick over here white boy.
There are alot of things DaS2 does worse than the other games and they happen to be the important parts.

>>375774004
>post anor londo
>not half of the game
Are you a retard?

they were horrible, and each time i played DaS1 post anor londo i wanted to die a little.
God, even the DLC. compare it to any DaS2 dlc or BB or even DaS3 for fuck sake. i get it, DaS1 was your first fucking souls game (was mine DeS), but your goggles do nothing beside blinding you with nostalgia for a very good first half and the shittiest second half in the series

Old Hunters > Sunken King > Ringed City > Artorias of the Abyss > Ivory King > Ashes of Ariandel > Old Iron King

Fact.

>>375774394
And the things it does better does not make up for the things it does worse.

A lot of the positives of DaS2 are directly ruined by its flaws.

>>375774394
>LOOK HOW CENTRIST I AM EVERYONE
Your obnoxious.Of course DS2 has some shit that it does better.Its mainly really minor quality of life shit though.

>>375774857
Old Hunters>Old Iron King>Artorias of the Abyss>Ivory King>Ringed City=Sunken King> Map packs> AoA

Fuck Ashes in all of its holes.

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>tfw people in these threads actually argue, post opinions, and talk about the games
Souls and Smash Bros are the only things /v/ is passionate about anymore

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>>375774857
>Ringed City that high.

>>375774857
Your opinion is shit.
OH > AotA > RC > IK > OIK > AA > SK

>>375764232
>>No bonfire and no death challenge where you can beat the game without resting at a bonfire or dying to gain a reward and bragging rights
You know. I am not too fond of this. Because had I known it from the start I would have done it for sure. But I never really felt like replaying the game a third time specifically for this challenge. While said challenge at the same time basically invalidates the validity of my previous playthroughs.

>>375764232
DELETE THISSSS

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>>375774370
>DS2 tries something different by giving entirely optional co-op challenge zones intended for 2-3 players
>IT'S TOO HARD I CAN'T RUSH THROUGH THIS SOLO IN TWO MINUTES REEEEEE

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>>375775028
>implying the Church Spears aren't fun as fuck

DaS1>DeS>DaS2=BB>>>>>>DaS3

>>375764731
>of 2014

:^)

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YOU HAVE BEEN BLESSED BY THE FLOATING HEAD OF JERICHO!

MANY DIMES AND DRAWS WILL COME YOUR WAY, BUT ONLY IF YOU REPLY "YOU JUST MADE THE LIST" TO THE POST BELOW THIS ONE

>>375775109
>faggot giving the game a backhanded complement
>pretends like he isn't posting wearing a fedora right now

>>375763737
DaS2 is way harder than both DeS and DaS.

Even with the best weapon in the game, Mace, which you can start with, there is nothing that will make you able to breeze through the entire first 2/3rds of the game. Dark Souls 1 has at least 5 different ways for that.

>>375775315

YOU JUST MADE THE LIST

>>375775321
What? I legitimately like Dark Souls 2 a lot. While it at the same time is probably one of if not my least liked Souls game. But I still really like the game.
Both of this can be true. What are you even implying?

>>375772946
It's the Dark Lord ending in that you walk away just like in the first game and the fire will eventually fade. There's no difference except some dumb serpents calling you a dark lord.

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>>375775186
>IT'S TOO SHIT, BUT I CAN EASILY RUN THROUGH THE AREAS AND FIGHT THE UTTERLY PEDESTRIAN BOSSES SO AS TO NEVER HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THESE SHIT ZONES AGAIN
>TILL MY NEXT PLAYTHROUGH

Fixed that for you.
I can't fucking believe there are people on this planet who actually defend Frozen Wastes and the lava tunnel. I've played them co op, they're just as terrible with friends and without.

>>375775321
YOU JUST MADE THE LIST

>>375775418
>TO THE POST BELOW THIS ONE

anon.....

>>375775442
You did it again with the "but I like it but it's the worst". Fuck back off the retarddit please

>>375774857
nah

Old hunters > Sunken King > Old iron King >ivory King >Ringed City > Ashes of Ariandel > Artorias of the Abyss

The only good part about AOTA is the boss fights and Sif.

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>>375763197

Mechanically, DaS2 is vastly better that DaS1.
Mechanically.
While mechanics are of huge importance to a souls game, atmosphere and story are of equal importance.
DaS2 took a giant shit on DaS1's story. It retroactively made it worse. It is completely fucking egregious in this regard.
Now fuck off with this bullshit. None of these faggoty videos actually offer up any new information.

>>375768769
kek

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>Defend DS2
>Always feel like the negative reaction towards it was caused largely by the matthewmatosis video being regurgitated into an echo chamber (plus some backlash against the downgrade)
>Try not to bring it up because accusing people of being mindless sheep unable to form their own opinions is a pretty arrogant thing to think
>This happens

God fucking damn it.

>>375775516

well, fuck.

>>375763197
I personally liked 2 the best. I have not played like any blooborne and only like halfway into 3 but other than that I have beaten all other souls games. fuk that DLC for 2 though I never played any of that.

>>375775537
But I do like it even though it's my least favourite.
Out of chocolate, strawberry, and vanilla ice cream. Strawberry is my least favourite. But I still love ice cream and really like all the flavours.

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>>375775193
>Spears of the Church on launch
>Like the Old Monk but better in every way, fun as fuck, can even revive the boss if you want to do it again.

>SotC now
>4 player gank squads that do nothing but spam magic while the host runs away like a faggot

Dried finger was a mistake.

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>>375774857
>ivory king this low

Except the enemies, IK is 10/10

>>375775613
funnily enough when mathewmatosis did his autism review it was criticized for regurgitating opinions that were common on /v/ for a long time.

>>375775554
>you have to waste like 20 to 40 levels before your character can roll better than boulder
No. Its mechanics still leaves lots to be desired.

>>375775856

You got that completely backwards friendo.

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DUDE THE SHINING IS FUCKING TRASH, THE OVERLOOK HOTEL MAKES NO SENSE ARCHITECTURALLY

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>>375775554
Except that DaS2 has a clearer allegorical core that drives it. Every area is strongly influenced by its core themes, while DaS1 tended to be a bit all over the place in that regard. Story wise the only thing DS1 did better was creating a more cohesive lore (because it was all one setting) and have a better finale.

I've never cared about the story in any of these games, only gay autists care about that shit.

DaS2 in terms of the actual game is decent, if not mostly uninspired. At least it's still an action RPG like the first two, and not just a bad action game like DaS3.

>>375775385
Are you fucking kidding lmao
DaS2 is only hard because the devs have no fucking clue how to place enemies, if you think it is hard it is because you are terrible at crowd control.

The game is easy as fuck, it is completely trivialized by shit like the life gems.

>>375776003
>he says while tipping 4 separate fedora on his head for being a "pro" dark souls player

>>375776003
Even in terms of just the bosses it's way harder than DaS1, and most of DeS as well.

you can literally start DaS as a sorcerer and pick up the Zweihander WHICH IS IN THE FIRST 4 MINUTES OF THE GAME and have not only a giant fuckhuge sword and murders every enemy but also infinite spammable homing missiles that also murder every enemy. DaS1 is only hard if you're doing a self-imposed challenge.

>>375775819
They're just putting it in line with all the other antagonistic roles.

Playing any role that opposes the host is an act of masochism in DaS3.

>>375775970
DaS2 felt like a video game whereas DaS felt like an actual world.

>>375768461
abysswatchers are fine because it's a very unique fight that fits in the lore

every souls since Demons has had a swamp place fuck off

crystal sage is closer to big hat logan

did you forget the church fight in ds2

bloodborne village is an asset reuse sure

again, catacombs in every game including DS2

same reason as anor londo, proves you are in the same place as ds1 which is fine

next 3 points all follow the same reason

?

gwyndolin is pandering but makes aldritch seem more intimidating

priscilla clone is straight pandering no question

they've remade the same crestfallen fuck every game too what is your point

there is no tower of latria clone

pandering shit tier fight

drakes again in every game including ds2

again, also pandered in ds2 as an actual boss fight

?

kiln and final boss exist to tie the world to a closing, you're a liar if you didn't tear up when the gwyn theme faded in.

>>375776260
both of them felt like video games. so did Demon's Souls, and Bloodborne, and Dark Souls 3.

>>375775970
A sequel shouldn't introduce stupid themes that aren't in the original. So yes, it is shitting on the story, but it's also directed by a different person so whatever.

>>375776178
No you faggot, DaS2 is only hard if you can't crowd control properly. The enemies are as braindead as DaS1 but generally not as inspired in any facet, and the devs just put a lot of them into every area.

>>375776182
I never said DaS was harder, but it generally has better thought out enemies IMO

Ps magic is for fags lmao

When are they going to remake DaS3 but as an actual action RPG like the other games and not just a straightforward action game?

>>375776367
DaS2 is far worse about it

>>375776260
They both felt like video games. Nothing about DaS1 is even close to realistic or fully fleshed out. What it does feel like is a fully fleshed out area that you're scrounging around in. You're a fly on a rotting corpse, and that's cool, but the journey through less fleshed out, more varied areas is just different, not bad.

>>375776385
The themes are very similar though, they're both about the impermanence of life, and the futility of denying it's limited nature.

>>375776858
>Nothing about DaS1 is even close to realistic or fully fleshed out. What it does feel like is a fully fleshed out
Herp derp, I'm retarded please fuck my face. I meant to say it's not realistic or fully realized, but is fleshed out.

>>375776484
>starts bringing up his "skills"
>"you know I'm a pro at crowd control anon"
>about 40 fedoras fall of his head and hit his keyboard, correctly typing in his account name and password for his re (tar)ddit account

>>375774515
>turns my face when into mfw
>starts every greentext with be me
>change my face when into my reaction when
What is their fucking problem?

>>375777324
They dumb it down so more people can understand.

>>375763387
UNTIL NOW.

>>375776973
And DaS2 is? The areas in DaS2 are far shittier, is worse about checking off stereotypical levels than DaS

>>375777025
>never even talk about my skills
>then you make up a quote
Are you okay my man?

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>>375775554
>Mechanically, DaS2 is vastly better that DaS1.


what the fuck is this meme


no seriously

why the fuck do people say this?


There's literally 1 thing that 2 does better than 1 mechanically and that's dual wielding

everything else is the same or worse (LETS TIE IFRAMES TO A STAT)

>>375776973
The areas are realistic in that they're actual cities/towns that functionally work. Just compare Drangleic castle to Anor Londo and you'd see.

>>375763197
That's not how you spell Bloodborne

Dark Souls 2 is the best game in the souls series

DIABLO 2 = Dark Souls

D2LOD= Dark Souls Prepare to Die

Diablo 3 = Dark Souls 2

Path of Exile = Dark Souls 3

>>375777893
doesn't work, that would imply Path of Exile is complete dogshit nobody would ever want to play

>>375777824
That's a fine opinion anon but it isn't correct, DaS2 is objectively the shittiest in most aspects of game design, art style and writing

Got pretty fun pvp after a million patches though, unlike DaS3

>>375777617
Bonfire Aesthetics
Powerstancing
Unarmed combat
Can teleport to any bonfire
Weight load percentage
Estus is improved
Teleporting unlocked from the start
Poise is improved
4 ring slots

Just off the top of my head

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>>375774857
>>375775017
>>375775548

Jesus Christ all these fucking plebs rating DaS2's trash DLC above AotA.
You are all literally fucking retarded.
Name a single boss in ANY DaS2 DLC that's better than Artorias. Oh that's right, you can't. Because there isn't one.
Infact, there isn't a single boss in the entirety of DaS2.
Inb4
>M-M-MUH RAIME
>M-M-MUH SIR ALONNE
Faggots of no consequence, and utterly irrelevant compared to Artorias.

You mongoloids only started bandwagoning on this shit after "APOLOGIZE [attached DaS2.jpg]" became a fucking meme.
That's right. This shit is all a meme, and you're all fucking brain damaged.

>>375777617
No more retarded Poise tanking
Endurance no longer the best stat with zero competition
Parrying is actually difficult and a high risk/high reward option, rather than piss easy free damage
Back stabs require proper timing and fast reactions, rather than being free infinite damage
Sorcery doesn't suck
Broken shit like Chaos and Lightning weapons don't turn low level PvP into a gank fest
Fewer bosses are "a big dude that does big slow sweeps in front of it, that you beat by attacking it from just behind it's front legs"
More varied weapons
etc.

>>375771914
everytime i see this image i look for dylan and everytime i look he's there

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Wow if Polygoy says it it must be true

>>375777617
>left hand movesets in general not just the powerstancing thing
>separating stamina from equip load
>casting speed tied to attunement and visible as a stat
>being able to use multiple items
>left stick jumping is inarguably mechanically superior, you don't accidentally jump when you want to roll any more
>weight system isn't just "lel you actually have a quarter of what the number says, you can technically have more but you never ever will"
>4 rings, 2 was nowhere near enough for the utility they provide
>being able to two hand your left handed weapon
>aiming spells

>>375778005
Artorias isn't that great of a boss. His sweep comes out fast and his somersault can break your lock, he has nothing else in repertoire. Christ, if you're going to blindly suck someone's dick to try and prove your point, at least suck the right one, since Manus is probably the best fight in the series.

>>375778005
Sorry, it's not worth forking over extra money to explore Darkroot with a brown filter.

>>375763197

DS2 desperate faggots apologists still trying to defend this piece of shit

Remember:

>worst level design in Souls game
>worst art design in a Souls game
>worst animations in a Souls game
>worst bosses in a Souls game
>worst hitboxes in a Souls game

no matter how much you shitpost about it, DS2 will always be the worst.

Always.

>>375778003
>can teleport to any bonfire
Objectively a garbage decision wtf this rruined the level design.

>Estus is improved
You can't conceivably believe that. I can't come up with any reasonable defense of that shit.

>Teleporting unlocked from the start
Also just a horrible decision.

>4 ring slots
This is incredibly tenuous, and I'm betting the only reason you're saying it's better is because it's a higher number.
But it also overcomplicates rings as a mechanic and means rings have to be a lot shittier to compensate for how many you can wear.
I don't think you can at all argue this is an objective improvement and I'm liable to call it a bad decision.

>>375770218
>Unlike /pol/.
Did you get lost or something? This is /v/ bro.

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>>375771914

>>375778403
I wonder if teleporting anywhere anytime was implemented because they realized how shitty their level design was or if that was the plan from the start

>>375763197
animation cancel alone made it the best for me

>>375778403
>You can't conceivably believe that. I can't come up with any reasonable defense of that shit.
chugbaby detected

>>375763197
Well 2 is.

>>375778535
>they stopped chugging but filled the game with gems that work way faster and completely trivialize the game
Wew

>>375765262
>Literally a sludge head
who cares.

>>375763197
Where did all these people suddenly come from with their extreme dedication in defending DaSII? Are they really that insecure?

>>375763197
>DS2
>Best souls

lol

>>375763197
>No, seriously
Gayming journalism everyone.

>>375778664
They don't work faster at all. They're still slower than estus in any other game in the series and the recharge rate is very slow.

You basically are going to die anyway if you pop these at low hp in the middle of a fight. All they do is let you go into more fights with full hp.

>>375778756
They have always been insecure about how much they slobber over DaS2's cock, but now they feel more convicted because autistic youtubers are making videos about how DaS2 is akshully the best becuz muh pvp

>>375778403
>Objectively a garbage decision wtf this rruined the level design.
No, not being able to warp is a result of DaS1's level design philosophy. To include it in DaS2 which uses a different philosophy, would be fucking retarded.

>You can't conceivably believe that. I can't come up with any reasonable defense of that shit.
Limiting near full heals that are meant to be used in combat is definitely a good thing. Life Stones should take longer to use, but the Estus change itself is definitely a good change.

>This is incredibly tenuous, and I'm betting the only reason you're saying it's better is because it's a higher number.
>But it also overcomplicates rings as a mechanic and means rings have to be a lot shittier to compensate for how many you can wear.
>I don't think you can at all argue this is an objective improvement and I'm liable to call it a bad decision.
Tell me what rings you have EVER used in DaS1, because I can pretty much guarantee you are going to give me a list with no more than 5 rings on it. 4 weaker rings means that you aren't limited to only the most META rings available, and instead focus on each on providing some level of utility instead of massive, broad reaching buff.