>csfags will defend this explain yourselves

>>375683241
no we wont

why defend the worst cs

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before CS:GO /vg/ fags arrive, let me just warn you guys.

they use filters to find certain webms and threads and defend them to the death. the proof will come soon

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>>375683397
Noted

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>>375683241

What I dont is a couple of things

Why they still kept the 1998 shooting mechanics and how people call it "skillful"

How a game that SEEMED to be on the path to becoming a cool tactical shooter getting turned into a whole esport thing and people not caring about the tactical aspects what so ever

Am I the only one who liked Condition Zero

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I actually stopped playing CSGO because I couldn't stand the RNG first shot accuracy, and the RNG variance in the spray patterns.

And then I put 500 hours into Rust.

Fucking kill me.

CS:GO is LITERALLY the Hearthstone of modern FPS

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>>375683241

>playing worst dust
>playing worst cs

They brought it upon themselves anon.

>>375683470
I fucking love this webm.

>>375683319
fpbp

won't go near it with a barge pole since revolver update

>>375683397

I thought the CSGO /vg/ fags dont even play the game

everytime I go in that general all they talk about is esports

CS:GO is such a fucking garbage game.

Server desync.
That's not normal

>>375683559
Condition Zero Deleted Scenes was good :^)

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>>375683821

>the gun doesn't hit where its aiming so it takes skills xD

luckily the game is dying. i recently checked the twitch numbers and the game is down the shitter

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very skillful LAN tournaments in this game
truly talented players

someone in another thread tried to tell me halo was like unreal tournament today

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>playing CS:GO when Insurgency exists

>>375683973

CS 1.5 renaissance when?

>>375684057
My nigger

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>>375684057
>Insurgency

LOL!

Also equally hilarious: <100 FPS on a gtx 1080TI

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>>375684057

>playing insurgency when insurgency exists

>>375683980
its fucking crazy how rampant cheating and other general scumbaggery is in this joke of a scene called esports. do the companies that run this shit either bother enforcing anything. Like how do you get to the point in life where you're a professional videogamer who cheats its ridiculous to say the least

I can understand liking the older titles but people that like this game and defend it's shit mechanics and RNG shooting are literal retards. Some things I'll never understand

>>375683319
>after sinking 500 some hours in csgo
>realize css is even better

GO was a mistake

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>>375684158
>do the companies that run this shit either bother enforcing anything

No, they quietly encourage cheating because it makes the competitive scene look higher level than it actually is.

After pic related happened on-screen in an Overwatch tournament with 100k+ viewers including a dozen Blizzard staff, Blizzard released a statement defending him with arguments like 'sometimes very skillful plays just look like cheats :))))'

What are some good multiplayer shooters with an active playerbase. I dislike CS and got bored of Overwatch. I've heard some good things about Siege

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>all of these outdated webms that got patched a long time ago
Don't you have anything new to show?

atleast in CSS, the "random" spray wasn't actually random

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>>375684346
More Overwatch tournament cheating

>>375684380
tf2
despite what people tell you it's still a fun game

>>375684380
>What are some good multiplayer shooters with an active playerbase
There actually are none right now and it's driving me fucking insane

Ever since Tribes: Ascend and TF2 died there has been no good replacement

>>375684415
If you stand still and shoot a full clip the spray will be the exact same each time. Not my fault you're too retarded to stop moving before shooting.

>>375684346
>>375684417

Every blizz tournament ever is a joke.

>only esport that isn't compromised is RTS and MOBAs

Still esports are for faggots.

>>375684142
in the time it took you to hip fire and miss two shots you could have aimed and killed him with one shot. insurgency does suck though

>>375683980
no wonder why Pc gaming its a joke at this point...

>>375684229

The original CS had rng, but it was rng that you could control once you knew the weapons and mechanics. AKs were overpowered as shit because of it. Once you knew the dispersion, you could kill anyone at almost any range in 2-3 shots if your aim was gud.

CSGO was to CS what The Library in Halo was to 90s shooters. It took all the worst aspects of what made it great and tried to package it as 1337 epic cancer.

>>375684630
Both shots hit

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>>375683397
>already predicted the thread

csfags truly are faggots

>>375684383
>you can patch high level players to stop them cheating

huh, interesting.

>>375684380
hopefully quake champions when that comes out

>>375684537
>tribes: ascend

FUCK YOU TODD!!!!

>>375684667
>people in multiplayer games cheat
Wow, color me surprised. I was obviously talking about the ones showing old game glitches not the players you fucking retard.

>>375684417
>>375684346
this seems bizarre, it's not like an old school aimbot, what's the point even? the second webm didn't seem to aid him since the spread on his guns was half the damn screen

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>>375684589
>only esport that isn't compromised is RTS and MOBAs
there is one exception, but /v/ will never accept it

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>>375684848

>>375684589
>>only esport that isn't compromised is RTS and MOBAs
wouldn't be surprised if chinese teams cheat honestly. chinese people are notorious cheaters in everything they do

>>375684876
TF2's competitive scene is absolutely filthy with cheats. I remember there was a banwave some years back and literally something like 80% of the competitive scene got banned.

>>375683241
Even not counting the streamer it's what, 10 different UI blocks? They take up almost 50% of the screen, what a clusterfuck.

>>375684649
You're dumb. Original CS has randomized spray patterns that you can only control slightly, which is why everyone resorts to quick tap shooting, because you cannot actually spray for jack shit.

>>375684932
i dont play overwatch, i have no idea what youre trying to convey senpai

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>>375685019

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>>375685014

>spraying
>in a shooter

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>>375684994
Yeah in HL because of faggoty sniper mains, not a single 6s player got banned.

>>375685058
frankly im curious how many of these you have

>>375683241
I won't. CSGO is shit.

I play CSS still almost every single day. Say what you want about the game, but at least hardly no one cheats in it. It's a dead game for the hacking community. All the hacks that worked before CSGO were rendered useless because of VAC and any that do work now must be purchased.

>>375684589
>only esport that isn't compromised is DotA 2

fixed

>>375685089
Did you even read the post? You might be retarded

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>>375685113

>>375685119
CSS is for shitties who need retard huge hit boxes to do anything. Play 1.6 or get the fuck out

>>375684589
There's no cheats or hacks in Melee.

csfags aren't human

>>375683241
>3 year old clip
>valve deathmatch server
nah there hasnt been like 20 updates since then to fix the shitty hitboxes and hit registrationj

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>>375685223

I did read it, that doesn't stop it from being retarded.

>which is why everyone resorts to quick tap shooting, because you cannot actually spray for jack shit.

>WHY CAN'T I JUST HOLD DOWN THE TRIGGER AND KILL EVERYTHING REEEEEEEEEEE

>>375685330
actually friend, it's only gotten worse in recent times.

>>375685271
Yeah, yeah sure

>>375685386
That is in no way complaining that you can't spray, merely a statement about what you can and cannot due based upon the previous post saying that you can spray.

The post was saying you can't spray. Why are you so retarded?

>>375685316
They are cheaters, when Valve gives a fuck and stops thinking about the money they will update VAC to deal with 64bits

>>375683241
>paying fifteen (15) burgerbux to play with mentally handicapped slavs and underage, meme spouting redditors

Why would anyone subject to such torture

>>375685423
I'm not saying csgo isn't shit but at least use a more recent clip as an example

>>375684057
As much as I'm not a fan of insurgency, I find it better than csgo atm.
I prefer day of infamy over both of em but still.

>>375683559
Condition Zero was great

>>375683973
>twitch numbers
>accurate to a game's popularity
fuck off.

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I don't know dude, I think CS:GO is pretty cool.

https://youtu.be/WJRoZrTM7Fc

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>>375685520

>The post was saying you can't spray and that means it's a bad fps

You can stop the damage control any time now.

>>375685609
That's how retarded most people are, they base things off of something like twitch. It's ok to laugh at them

>>375684589
Fighting games esports doesn't have cheaters, far as I know.

>>375684346
>typing and shooting at the same time
epic skills my bros....

>>375685646
Your reading comprehension is beyond lacking, I'm sorry you have to go through life the way you do.

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>CS fags will defend this

>>375683241
literally why i dont bother

>>375685774
>what is spray control

>>375685310
There was that one time were at a local or some shit some guy was wrecking with pichu and it was discovered that:
1. He only played at a certain set-up
2. That set-up had a gamecube memory card that modified pichu with tweaks to make him better.

>>375683559
>What I dont is a couple of things

wat

>Why they still kept the 1998 shooting mechanics

What the fuck

>How a game that SEEMED to be

Oh god the yuropoors are waking up

Explain how Source or CZ is any bettet.

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>>375685825
>should be pic related
>instead it's an upsidedown u
RNG is a fickle thing senpai.

esports ruined counter strike. the game was meant for drop in drop out play a few games and have some fun not being limited to 5v5, being penalized for leaving, or stupid ranks people take way too seriously. unfortunately unranked casual is a shitshow where the top 3 fraggers carry the entire team and nobody talks

>>375685960
not knowing how to control the pattern =/= rng

>>375685245
keep going

>>375683241
nope, I won't defend it. I recently stopped playing because I can't stand shit like this.
Before anyone says "git gud"
I'm global rank and have been playing cs since the very beginning. Global Offensive is turning into a steaming pile of bullshit.

>>375685609
>>375685672
>40k views for a major tournament
dead

game

>>375685960
It's not RNG, he pulled down and not right.

>>375683241
He shoots before the 1 second accuracy reset after jumping on a deagle. He deserved those misses.

>>375686208
aka the only reason I use the r8 is cause I can walk and shoot and have the shot be accurate.

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why would you play cs when siege exists
>see an enemy
>click on them
>they die

>>375686421
Le epic recoil control macro

>>375686086
Why would we fucking talk?

>>375686421
I don't wanna use Ubisoft's fucking idiot service, that's why.

>>375686164
which tournament was this? if you're talking about dreamhack austin it had 100k+ and it was a pretty poorly ran event so
dead
game indeed

>>375683241
every online fps game has limitations, some games use certain things and tricks to cover it like motion blur and a shit-ton of effects. you could find similiar things in quake (which has awful big hitboxes in the first place), cod, battlefield (which had literally unplayable netcode for months) and every other f2p shit.
but i guess this isnt obvious for the tech-illiterate contrarian hivemind who try to gain a personality from disliking things no one gives a shit about

>>375683241
this is quite possibly the worst CS ever made. what the fuck is valve thinking?

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>>375686579
IF I'M GONNA PLAY A FUCKING FPS
I EXPECT
THE FIRST SHOT
TO HIT
WHERE I FUCKING AIM

NONE OF THIS NIGGERING RNG BULLSHIT THAT HAS =NO= REASON TO BE THERE

IN
EX
CUS
A
BLE

>>375686671
Except it was a shot after a jump. He shoots before the 1 second accuracy cooldown that effects the deagle.

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>>375684654
Wrong. The first landed above the target, which is why there was a spray of debris off of the wall.

Even if the other shot connected, that's not a guaranteed kill. A target with heavy armor can take one, feasibly even two shots to the torso at point blank without dying.

>>375686671
then dont play it you fucking autist jesus christ. first bullet inaccuracy was even bigger in 1.6 and no one complains about that because guess what, everyone in this thread was probably 9 years old when he played it. long term first bullet inaccuracy is a way to balance the game otherwise you could buy a famas and 1-shot anyone from the other side of the map. what would be the point of buying a better weapon?

>>375686740
1 SECOND ACCURACY COOL DOWN UNILATERAL SKUNKUFICATION ACCESSORY

>>375686548
it's not that bad.
origin is a way fucking worse.

>>375686661

There's a lot of money in the skin case slots

>>375686914
>Expecting to be accurate right after jumping
Are we quake now?

>>375686671
Tactical FPS games have RNG, it's industry standard. That's to make you use the weapons in their designated effective range. Otherwise you end up with retarded situations wherein people snipe with handguns.

>game is modeled after real life
>shooters in real life are not perfectly accurate
>why am I not shooting with perfect accuracy?

>>375685737
>PLAY OF THE GAME

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMv8-9Sarek

>>375687142

luckiest one tap I've ever seen

>>375683319
>>375683559
>>375683691
>>375684998
>>375685119
>>375685330
>>375685557
>>375685803
>>375686109
>>375686208
>>375686579
>>375686661
The person he shot Just bought a gun. He has spawn protection during most of the clip.

>>375687032
1 SECOND BARBITURATE SKALLAVANTING ACCURACY COOL THE FUCK DOWN TOXICITY

>>375687142
this is what makes CS fun

>>375685774
>is that the one they call fortune

>>375687320
Holy shit >>375683397 fucking called it.

>None have posted my Assault Scout webm.
Finally.

>>375687317
>one tap
>game immediately freezes after game ends
shut the fuck up. this retarded nigger likely would have emptied half his mag there if the round didn't end

Cheating exists in almost every game, regardless of the competitive nature. It's why e-sports is such a shaky idea for a real sport.

The only game without cheating seems to be Dota 2.

>>375683470
haha that chicken

>>375683980
What are we seeing here?

>remove the MP5
>keep the universally hated autosnipers

I never understood this.

>>375687921

wallhacks

>>375687739
>be retarded
>GUYS IM TELLING YOU SOMEONE WILL CALL US OUT
>youre retarded
>TOLD YOU HAH

genius

>>375684417
Isn't it possible these are edited videos? All you'd have to do is chop a few frames out and it would give that robot feel.

>>375683397
>>375684657
>>375687739
Have you even been to the general, you retard? The people in the general are probably the ones making these threads.

>>375688014
>>375687921
more like an aimlock or aimkey, hes on lan so if he was walling the admins would see it

>>375685737
the one typing is a spectator senpai

>>375688052
>>375688131
And heeeeeeere we go!

>>375686164
There hasn't been a major in months and it had far more views than that on twitch alone.

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>>375683241
>playing CS after 1.6

>>375686880
>buckshot
try 7.62x39mm and say that again.

>>375684057
>Playing Insurgency when Day of Infamy exists
Fat Chance buddy boy

>>375683241
You have to level agility. Also, you chose pistols as a major skill, right?

>>375688236
>>375686164
the eleague major had 1.2 million concurrent viewers back in january i think it was

>>375683980
please tell me this guy was tackled and his pc destroyed

>>375687320
He wouldn't have had spawn protection after he moved though.

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>>375684057
I never get why Insurgencyfags constantly compare it to CSGO. The games barely play anything alike when you get past the most superficial level. Not to mention that any fan of CSGO probably enjoys it as a competitive shooter which Insurgency definitely isn't.

>>375688251
[Jericho trumpets intensify]

>>375684417
>>375688125
Assuming he's actually not cheating, it's more likely just fucky netcode, even live spectating a player won't always show you exactly what he sees. Valve even had to patch CSGO awhile ago so crosshairs would actually line up properly when spectating and in demos; that's why older pro matches always have AWPers holding their crosshairs on walls directly next to the gap they're actually watching.

>>375685423
>it's only gotten worse in recent times.
Prove it

>>375686086
>the game was meant for drop in drop out play a few games and have some fun not being limited to 5v5
According to who?

>>375684417
Overwatch is full of aim bots

There are color bots with smooth aiming out there which can't be detected (modern aim bots even have some kind of randomizer where it can turn itself on and off to make it impossible to get detected). You won't hit every shot and it only gives you a small advantage (because in most cases you have to be at least near the body with your aim), but as decent player you can even win against real try hards with god tier aim and reaction.

Most pro players use aim bots, because people are just used to see people aim botting in the top 500. And wall hacks and other things are also common and undetectable if you have a private program without anyone knowing.

>>375689360
>(modern aim bots even have some kind of randomizer where it can turn itself on and off to make it impossible to get detected)
How on Earth would that make it impossible to detect?

>>375689360
I forgot to add that even Pharah and Junkrat aimbots are available (yes, even Winston), but the good once are private. These bots are tracking movement, the environment and predicting the best shot. They also miss often (because of random player movement), but are undetectable, because they don't follow the enemy and are only activated when you press a button.

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it was never good
quake died for this trash

>>375688125
It's not edited, look at the ammo count and the control point timer going down

>>375689649
There's no such thing as an undetectable aimbot. I have coded cheats in the past and you have no idea what you're talking about in either of your posts.

>>375689360
>Most pro players use aim bots, because people are just used to see people aim botting in the top 500.

That's just fucking depressing. No shows of skill anymore, it's just "hey look we all have aimbots watch us get shots that we aren't actually getting".
Time for a mercy killing.

>>375689201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1kkSZYIlTg&feature=youtu.be&t=677

This is Taimou's aimlock recorded from his tournament computer perspective, ie. that's what happened on his screen. You can't use 's-spectator cam!' as an excuse.

>>375685330
Hitreg has been an issue since source dropped, period. CS:S was always bad about it but the actual shooting mechanics made up for it. Now you have hyper RNG shit and you can't rely on your first shot nearly as well as you could in 1.6 or CS:S. Plus all of GO is pretty shitty and they destroyed the community with matchmaking.

>>375683241
B-BUT RNG IS GOOD IN A """""""COMPETITIVE""""""" GAME

>>375689649
Why the fuck do you need an aimbot in a game where you don't even have to aim anyways and the hitboxes are fuckhuge.

>>375686521
It used to be any pub you joined would have an active community that you could banter with. Now all we have is shitty Valve servers with a bunch of tryhards or squeakers.

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>>375690285
>You can't use 's-spectator cam!' as an excuse.
Stop acting like I'm using it as an excuse, you whiny little faggot. I wasn't referring to that clip and I even basically said I was playing devil's advocate.

>>375687035
Sorry I read that as I've never shot a gun in real life.

>>375690879
You need to stop playing devil's advocate for filthy people who are considered to be angels.

>>375690879
>defending cheaters in fucking video games

kys

>>375690285
Am I seeing this wrong?
Those shots weren't that hard.

>>375687921
aimlocking

notice how his crosshairs snap onto the player and follow it across the map.

>>375691138
Nevermind I am a dumbfuck.
Just noticed the snap it had on the slow camera.

>>375690620
>Now you have hyper RNG shit
Source and 1.6 sprays were, by far, more RNG than GO.

>you can't rely on your first shot nearly as well as you could in 1.6 or CS:S.
First shots in GO are more accurate as well, the only exception being when you quickswitched or reloaded in 1.6 because of a bug that made your next shot perfectly accurate. You can probably argue that Source technically has better first shot accuracy because the hitboxes are fuckhuge though.

>>375684346
The snapping is obvious as fuck, not even Quake players can do something like that

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>>375690994
>>375691039
You circlejerking cucks can't even handle somebody giving an alternative explanation for how a video could be wrong under the hypothetical assumption that somebody isn't cheating.

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It's time to accept that Action Quake 2 is better than its retarded younger brother.

>>375687320
>spawn protection
>already in site A

>>375683241
I won't. Haven't played "competitively" in two years or so. I only play Hide & Seek with IRL friends now.

>>375691751
It's deathmatch, you retard.

>>375684876
tf2 was always a joke of a competitive game even among fortress fans

>>375683634
Holy shit, anon, are you still here? This is exactly what I've done. I have 1400 hours in counterstrike and i just hit 800 rust hours. I'm just about done with it though. Very sick of being offline raided, otherwise the game is really fun. Just have to play in a group that is dedicated.

>>375691751
Look at the "bonus weapon" one the side of the clip, this is deathmatch, you spawn at random places including A, have a spawn protection till you move from there.

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>let me complain about a video game I don't play
>no you're the faggot, what makes you think I am

>>375688125
Not likely, all the characters are moving fluidly and in the same position except for the Tracer after the blink. Netcode couldn't be an issue as all games are designed for a LAN environment, which means input latency over the network can't explain that, especially given the fact that everything else is apparently functioning within normal parameters.

>>375689519
To add apparent human error.

>>375685774
ump is good if you aim another 2 inches down.

>>375692070
>rust
▲
▲ ▲

>>375690010
>I used cheat engine in a multiplayer game once
GET THE FUCK OUT, YOU'RE AN EXPERT

>>375692238
Hi my underage friend, are you new here?

>>375691814
>>375691936
ah I see
the last CS I played is source

>>375692148
Which every decent aimbot already does and has done for ages. It's part of the reason that nobody bans based on demo review anymore. The anticheat however doesn't give a fuck if the aimbot isn't on for half the match.

>>375692345
He says as he either posted the quoted post, which is clearly lacking in higher adult intelligence; or is otherwise misinterpreting my sarcasm due to his lack of even the lowest echelons of simian social intelligence.

>>375686548

You don't really have to at all. It just sits there and you ignore it. The only thing it really does is give you weekly challenges for extra renown points

>>375692503
It's one of many protection layers. If you don't add apparent human error and spam an M249 clip and land every shot as a head shot you're looking suspicious. The more error you add the less suspicious you look.
The ironic part is eventually you've got to come to a boundary where you realize that your *bot is at the average player level and you need it to keep up with normies, an occasionally push it for some clutch plays.

>>375692373
1.6 and css had dm as well champ

>>375686421
Siege has it's own share of bullshit, like headless three speed operators with 300 ping that run around the map and kill everyone before anyone can even see them.

>>375686421
why would i play siege when rogue spear exists

>>375692990
>It's one of many protection layers.
No shit, like I said, it's not news to literally anybody and it's far from making it undetectable. It just means it's not fucking blatant as all hell. You're talking about a feature that's been around practically since aimbots have existed like it's some brand new method of rendering them impossible to detect.

>Shit tier community comprised of 15 year olds and dudebros
>The entire game is balanced around the existence of a single gun.
>Horrid netcode

Why do people play this shit game? Is it because of the meme that it's more hardcore than Call of Duty?

>>375691936
>>375687320
if he moves or purchases, spawn protection is disabled iirc

>>375688417
since 99% of the scene cheats now in CS:GO/Overwatch and basically any "competitive" game... why would they?

>>375684848
>, it's not like an old school aimbot, what's the point even?
Those were only free aimbots written by script kiddies. Most private hacks always had fine tuning, adjustments and whatnot.
Normally these advanced bots allow you to mitigate the effect of the aimlock/bot, so it is not that easy to spot.

>>375686421
siege is one of the games that ubisoft's netcode killed.

it's not even funny anymore, if you just check a forum or whatever, it's full of clips when people just die without a reason. when shield wielders just get killed behind the shield, and so on.

>>375694698

pretty much that and it's cheap and runs on a toaster

>>375685960
Are you stupid or what? By the time he should have been correcting the sway to the left he only started correcting by pulling down. Of course the bullets went to the left

>>375683241
Deagle has a very long recovery time + shitty ass netcode that completely disregards everything on the user side

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>>375685014
Spraydowns were pretty common in 1.6, though.

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>>375683241
>playing bad games

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>>375683470
>killed by a German

>>375691206
Or because he isn't moving his mouse and the two players are moving toward the same direction at the same speed but I could just be crazy that this can happen once in 10,000 hours.

>>375683241
This was a problem with the hitboxes, movement, model positioning and many other shit that was fixed months ago. But when it was discovered, people were outraged cause this was like that for a long long time.

>>375688052
He lost it when he moved you dumb fuck

>>375694905

99% of retarded killcams and no-kills from consoles with ridiculous pings

I've seen countless of those and have never experienced it on PC.
The netcode isnt perfect, those microsoft servers are shit, but there is a point when you should realize that its your shitty internet that causing problems.

>>375698456
Bruh I have 10ms ping to the exchange, 20ms to major centers (Germany), and 0% packet loss.

I mean come on this is not a unique issue, the sub-reddit and official forum is full. People know. The game is great, the idea is great, but the netcode is so bloody awful it ruins the game.

>>375687320
You are transparent while you have spawn protection though

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>>375684346
>>375683980
>>375684417
Friendly reminder that with SFV,GoobyGear Rev2, Injustass 2, and Tekken7 you have no excuse of not joining only TRUE competitive genre

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>>375684324
This post is exactly the mindset of the average nostalfiafag and contrarian /v/edditor

LITERALLY everyone hated source when it was released, but somehow now its the best CS

fuck off, CS:GO IS the ultimate CS experience so far and you cant just not bother with cancerous stuff like muh skins like i do if you dont want to

Also, only silvers shit on CS:GO and thats a fact

>>375700083
>the ultimate CS experience
that's still 16v16 fy_poolday

but yeah, don't really get the Source love

>>375700165
>mememaps

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>>375683241
>I wasted money on this piece of shit
Fuck Valve

>>375700083
>Best CS experience
>Disgusting gun skins everywhere
>Disgusting graphics with fucked up colors
>Disgusting looking models with retarded animations
>Nobody playing on servers
>No custom settings/maps
sure thing m8

>>375693836
>Is it because of the meme that it's more hardcore than Call of Duty?
I never understood this meme.
CoD2 and 4promod were objectively better games where you could actually aim

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>>375683241
>mfw some kind /b/ro gifted me CS:GO back in Xmas '13
I only play it to honor his memory

>>375700827
>Disgusting gun skins everywhere
idgaf about them, you can also disable them
>Disgusting graphics with fucked up colors
subjective opinion, i like them
>Disgusting looking models with retarded animations
same as above
>Nobody playing on servers
objectively wrong, shitloads of full community servers, at least here in Europe
>No custom settings/maps
wrong?

the only thing i dislike is the new voices tb h, the old ones were just too iconic to be changed imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJrxKiW5f-4

>>375685774
>flyhighordie
he didnt fly so good

>>375684142
Well it is realistic. Did you think that just because it's a shotgun it kills everything in a cone?

Shotguns are accurate in Insurgency, and those two shots missed. That's what happens when you hipfire.

>>375688637
>The games barely play anything alike when you get past the most superficial level

Well the thing is, CSGO has many flaws, and those differences are what would happen if you went to fix those flaws. If you made Insurgency as shitty as CSGO, then you'd have pretty much a 1:1 clone of CSGO.

Insurgency started as nothing more than a goldsrc mod with default values for everything, just like CS.

>>375699984
>injustice
>muh superheroes and comix

does anyone unironically play this shit?

it's literally the virgin autistic version of MK

>>375701535
>and those differences are what would happen if you went to fix those flaws.
Adding in ADS, reducing recoil, neutering the economy, and lowering the TTK to the point that headshots or good aim don't even matter is fixing flaws now?

>>375684057

Iw as never a big fan of FPS games but 2 moths ago my friends made me try Insurgency. It's one of the best mulitplayer games I tried.


Also ISIS mod is mandatory.

>>375701564
It's closer to being an actual fighting game unlike MK.
It still has problems NRS games have with animation and combat system but it atleast tries

>>375701676
Well yeah.

CS has you crouch walking for greater accuracy which is the same as ADS, except two keys instead of one (plus CS has scopes).

CS has retarded recoil and you can't even shoot two bullets straight. Insurgency did fix the weapons by having more realistic weaponry and ballistics, on top of bigger and more complex maps which require the more accurate shooting.

The economy is still there because the amount of gear you can get depends on how many victories you stacked (and MVPs get an extra point), and then the whole thing is balanced with "classes" and a hard limit on weight, so that winners don't just run around fully kitted out, and not everyone can have a sniper rifle either.

The TTK is kinda higher actually because people are more careful, progress more slowly and strategically, and only the occasional noob raises your TTK by running in front of your gun like a retard.

Those are still minor differences, but play it maybe and see for yourself.

>>375688025
If only crosshair in the game actually indicated where you bullets will go

>>375685774
this is just like the scene from pulp fiction

dead game

at least is not d*ta 2

>>375702470
>CS has you crouch walking for greater accuracy
Except that crouching is just an optional and very minor boost that forces you to commit to the fight rather than being practically required to hit anything while allowing you a decent level of mobility with perfect accuracy. People crouch in CS to make themselves harder to hit and help with spray control, it has nothing to do with innate accuracy.

>CS has retarded recoil and you can't even shoot two bullets straight.
CS's recoil is perfectly fine when you actually learn it. If Insurgency just removed any RNG then you'd have a fair point, but it doesn't, the recoil is severely reduced across the board and anybody who practices it for five minutes will have better control over it than somebody who's practiced CS's recoil for hours. This lowers the skill ceiling.

>The economy is still there
Yes, I said it was neutered, not gone. You don't need to worry about money management at all in Insurgency. It doesn't matter how many people died on either side each round, what weapons they were killed with, who killed who, or when they died. You don't need to alter your buy or gameplan dependent on how much money you have and how much money the enemy has because you still mostly get the same things, the winning side just gets a little more.

>The TTK is kinda higher actually because people are more careful, progress more slowly and strategically
That's a bullshit excuse and doesn't even counter my point. The TTK is low enough that engagements don't reward good aim, if anything, they punish it because going for a headshot is more liable to miss for very little reward. I can also argue your same point when talking about high level CS.

>Those are still minor differences
They're some of the most basic mechanics of the game. I don't see how they're minor differences.

>play it maybe
I have.

>playing GO
>not playing glorious 1,6
honestly, what the fuck makes GO supposedly better

>>375704009
>People crouch in CS to make themselves harder to hit

so this...is the power...of the silver...woah....

>>375704062
Why do you think pros crouch all the time? It throws off headshots and will force people to correct their spray.

>>375683241
why even defend this?
i fucking hate this game because after uninstalling this shit i give it another chance and now i fucking lost 15€ + unboxing 3 cents skins.
Valve can't even fix a game they made themselves..

>>375704172
You hate the game because you're a retard throwing away money on crates?

>>375704171
they dont

crouching midfight is an almost certain way to get headshotted instantly

>>375704218
i don't even need to bring up the hitboxes because everyone knows it's broken as shit

>>375704172
i play dota 2 and cs:go since their releases and the only money ive spent were for dota 2 compendiums twice(12 euros in what, 7 years?)

you are a fucking retard for falling for the skins meme and you cant blame valve for that

>>375683241
>pre-NuGloves recording
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
it means nothing

>>375703823
>dead game
On what basis are you making that claim?
It's has more users playing then ever before.

>>375683241
He jumped when the webm started, which fucks up the accuracy of that weapon for a while.

>>375704320
At low levels where everyone aims for dick, you're right. At high levels where everybody aims for head, you're wrong. You shouldn't be doing it all the time or for every fight, but pros do crouch mid fight when it's smart to do so and to help control their spray. You can look up a fragmovie or something right now and you'll see them do it frequently.

>>375704351
I can hit just fine on 128tick servers.
The only thing broken right now are shoulder hitboxes overlapping with head hitboxes, but they already got noticed and I bet they will be fixed in no time.

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>>375683241
>recording from literally more than a year ago at least
>regarding a game that gets updated monthly

the only people who shit on CS are buttmad amerishart kiddos whos first tuch with a FPS was CoD and Halo and are frustrated with actually good competetive FPS

thats a fact

>>375683980
Aim lock works by locking onto the closest person to you, that's not who he 'locked' on to

Not saying there isnt still cheater at lan but niko aint one

>>375705119
the only people who like CS are butthurt kids who sucked and Unreal Tournament and Quake and wanted something easier.

That's a fact.

>>375691737

Don't know who you are anon, but AQ2 was fucking awesome.

I miss AHL and The Specialists as well

admin he doing it sideways

>>375683241
Oh, this thread again

>>375704421
15 € is what i spent to buy the game itself after that i unboxed 4 or 5 times so around 11€ because keys were 2.20€ before going up in price: R.I.P. 26 €

i don't even need to talk about the community market because i've never used it for CS and the prices are fucked up.
i'm not stupid enough to buy a 50€ knife skin.

hope everything is clear.

ps: did i mentioned that the hiboxes are broken and everyone knows this shit without the need to bring it up?

>>375705613
Quake and UT are just run and gun that requires good movement and aim.
CS is a tactical shooter that requires good movement and aim.
You can't compare. They are 2 different types of games.

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>>375683241
I always shoot under the target, that is all

>>375705708
>CS requires good movement
kek, the very basis of the game is that moving fucks up your aim

stuttering left and right autistically isn't movement

>>375701139
>disabling skins and so forth

How?

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>>375684324
i give even less shit about the old ones

they are all the same shit but go is the most popular one right now so why not choose it?

>>375683397
So, you mean like the people who start these threads do? What kind of point are you trying to make?

>>375684068
>custom server

>>375705803
console commands

>>375705613
I am actually preddy gud at UT but then again I dont like cs anymore either (1.6k hours btw)

>>375683559
>people not caring about the tactical aspects
like positioning to defend and attack, grenades, moving, etc???

>>375699984
Racing?

>>375705772
>autism isn't movement
Infact it is.
Just as getting around the map as quickly as possible.
Or strafejumping into positions you'd otherwise need a m8 for to get into.
The very basis of this game is to move efficiently when you have to and not move at all when you don't have to.

For some reason CS:GO's movement inaccuracy system punishes me harder than it seems to punish any of my friends.

If we play other FPS games like TF2 or Paladins I'm as good or significantly better than them. But when we play CS I'm a notch below them.
I guess I make up for my general bad aim with movement in other games. But in CS I just can't handle it.

>>375705363
Oskar looks closer to his crosshair though. However, I really doubt it's him hacking simply because I doubt any pro would have such a blatant hack on their PC. If they did there'd be a lot more clips of it and somebody would notice him tapping a goddamn key every time he hits a good shot. Anybody hacking at that level has something more subtle than that. I think people underestimate how fishy even their own demos can look at times.

>CSGO is "worst cs"
>Forgetting about the clusterfuck that was CSS

>>375683980
i played 2 matches and we got our asses kicked in cs:go, it seemed very obvious that they were either ultra skilled (few of them were silvers and shit so fuck no) or they cheated

and i thought this game was obnoxious at the start, now it just not worth playing

>>375706226
/v/ likes CSS when it lets them shit on GO more.

>>375706180
You probably start firing a tad too early after the counterstrafe.
Give it abit more time.

>>375706375
yea actually that does happen to me. when i try to ADAD quickly while tapping I often mistime it and it fucks me.

>>375706253
>Play two matches
>get rekt
>"so many hackers, game isn't worth playing"

>(few of them were silvers and shit so fuck no)
Smurfs are a thing. There's also the possibility that you're just not as good as you think you are.

>>375705038
>updated monthly
>competitive game
you're not helping to defend the game

>>375685646
Do you have fucking downs or something? Like just admit that you misread the post.

>>375684057
that's even more boring than cs:go
>try to run and gun
>9/10 times get hit by sniper or some fucko from 100m away
fuck that gay ass nigga game

>>375694589
Purchasing doesn't void spawn protection, but moving or shooting does, but I think there's a slight delay to it, not sure.

>>375701324
that's not what happens when you shoot a man irl with shotgun, he gon be too fucked to shoot from the first shot hitting him

>there is an arbitary recoil to every gun in the game
>your crosshair doesnt display that when you shoot your gun
what a shit game

>>375706795
>Insurgency
>Run and gun
That's not the way you play this game

i like to pretend it's just divine intervention like in pulp fiction when mace and travolta are shot at.

>>375707156
>wanting to snipe someone from 2000 meters away with a glock
I think you are just retarded.

>>375707156
What's the problem with this that can't be solved by gitting gud?

>>375685774
literally just bad spray control of the ump

ump is literally the easiest spraypattern, like the five seven lol

>>375707312
No, what i meant is the crosshair should also vibrate when you are shooting like in the games that arent shit

>>375686421
Honestly siege is a way worse offender than cs when it comes to net code and hit detection. If you want to be good at that game all you need to do is abuse the shit net code and peek everything at max speed. Holding any angle ever gets you killed.

>>375685774
THE CROUCHING TECHNOLOGY, TOO HARD FOR OUR DESERT GUNS!

>>375689334
according to 2000 hours in CS:S, there casual play and pro shit was strictly having a border between and it was good, i dont wanna be pro, im 26y old, im too old to be one

>>375707379
No. They shouldn't.
Recoil control would become reactive instead of being proactive.

>>375686548
their servers suck, it's not the service that is shitty, it's almost the whole game because of over 50ms pings and that comes from shit servers

>>375708024
>im 26y old, im too old to be one

most of the bros are in their ~30s right now

>>375708059
>implying it would be bad

>>375708121
It would lower the skill ceiling.

>>375687035
guns are accurate af, in real life people just shoot from shitty places or half the time only shooting cover fire to keep enemy pinned meaning not even supposed to hit the enemy

>>375708163
>cs go
>skill ceiling
lmoooa

>>375708709
If you think the skill ceiling is already a joke then why are you in favor of lowering it?

>>375684848
>the second webm didn't seem to aid him since the spread on his guns was half the damn screen

When you're close to the enemy and running around him it's very hard to keep track.

>>375699984
i don't even want to be that competitive, i just wanna shoot some ragheads controlled by 12y old kids

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>>375706491
i have enough experience in cs to know when im getting raped in the ass by bullshit

>>375707190
yeah and that's why i hate that garbage game

>>375708745
Well controling recoil isnt much of a skill anyway so they could at least make it more convenient

>>375709319
>Well controling recoil isnt much of a skill anyway
So, why is it such an issue in the first place for you then? Should be easy to learn and be able to accurately transfer it over multiple targets at different distances even from bad starting points if it doesn't take skill.

>>375709319
By that i mean randomising the recoil pattern and making the crosshair tracable but without pinpointing your target.

>>375687035
>real life guns are as inaccurate shit pipes as GO guns

Oh boy, been awhile since I saw this argument. I can tell you've never shot a gun in real life, because that's not how it fucking works, unless you're sniping someone the bullets go where you fucking aim.

>>375709392
Read my new comment so you will understand.The reason i think the current recoil system is stupid is; all the weapons have a certain pattern instead of a more natural and realistic system.

>>375709319
hyahahahahahhahahaddfhnsdfsdgjspijjertikppjikoepdors

>>375709392
Also, nearly every weapon has a recoil pattern where it goes up in a 7 shape anyway.It isnt really hard to adapt but the game becomes too robotic like this.

>>375700083
I'm silver 4, I just got into the game a monthish ago. It's a lot of fun, and I have veteran friends who've taught a lot.

>>375709518
>all the weapons have a certain pattern instead of a more natural and realistic system.
What exactly is the problem with it other than maybe being unintuitive and unrealistic? It raises the skill ceiling far more than an easier and randomized pattern would.

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>tfw stopped playing arcadey shit games for manchildren and actual children

Feels good, no retarded artificial gun inaccuracy in PR, Squad, Arma, etc. Don't have to worry about grenades not killing people point blank or other retarded shit.

Your fault if you play this trash.

>>375709319
this is the shittiest attitude you can have. "more convenient" = "MAKE IT EZ CUZ I'D BE GOD BUT I CBA TO PRAC"

>>375709421
>>real life guns are as inaccurate shit pipes as GO guns

Who are you quoting? I said

>Shooters in real life are not perfectly accurate

But I'm sure you're annie fucking oakley and you can hit a mosquito out of the air from a football field away on the first shot

>>375710152
>all those shit games

>>375710612
>m-muh arcadey shooters

You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

>>375710680
There's nothing more pathetic than someone who thinks video games are nothing but arcade shit. Go outside you fucking worthless peon.

>>375708709
t. silver

>>375710152
>Don't have to worry about grenades not killing people point blank or other retarded shit.
Also don't have to worry about things like aiming or actually being good at shooters. I enjoy those games as much as the next guy, and I'd be hype as fuck if my friends wanted to play PR or something, but nobody plays ARMA for anything people like about CS.

>>375709639
dafuq, I started the game a month ago too and they promoted me to 2 stars directly, didn't know people got promoted to something lower than a star.

>>375710876
>don't have to worry about things like aiming or actually being good at shooters.
t. casual shitter who thinks reaction times jumped up on energy drinks are more integral to shooters than positioning and team tactics

>>375710982
I think the skill is different in EU and US.

>>375710680
sure thing autismo

pre hitbox updates

>>375710597
It was your implication retard. and no, no one is perfectly accurate, however spraying bullets all over the goddamn place at impossible angles is just as fucking ridiculous, it's like everyone in GO is some spastic civilian that literally can't hold their gun straight.

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>>375707312
>>375710597
I'm pretty sure shooting jihadi john on dust rarely ever reaches engagement ranges of a football field or 2000 meters.

>>375711005
>casual shitter who thinks reaction times
Aiming isn't just reaction times and being good at shooters isn't just aiming. The fact that you think good aim is just spazzing out at somebody faster or that good positioning isn't a requirement to be good at any shooter is a sure sign that you're not good at shooters.

>positioning and team tactics
Aka, don't run out in the open like a retard and stick together. The average GE match in CS probably requires more positioning and teamwork than your average ARMA server experiences, especially because people in CS actually have to worry about opponents being plain better than them.

>>375684380
Paladin's is like overwatch except the current cheats are terrible and poorly developed so you can actually play legit and win

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I won't defend it, but what I can do is explain it. The Desert Eagle is only pinpoint accurate when you are
1: Standing still.
2: Moving while crouching.
Since the guy had some innertia while shooting, the weapon's accuracy went down the shit hole.
And then he stopped moving but the time between shoots wasn't long enough to make the weapon pin point accurate again. If you notice, the shot that hits is the one that took the longest to shoot.
Again, I will not defend this game. I personally love it, because I think the AK-47 and the M4 do require skill, but I won't expect you guys to think the same.
P.S: The GIF is the pattern when you fire without finishing the cooldown.

>>375683470
hey rabbi whatcha doin?

>>375684068
>You have not played the game if you think this is real.

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>tfw play insurgency

why do valvecucks suck valves dick so hard? Valve games are overrated trash for mouthbreather tier gaming peasants

>pulp_fiction.webm

>>375684487
I agree

>>375684537
F2 isn't completely dead, I only wish that TF2Center had more people playing it.

>>375691935
>>375683634

I actually did the same but with Battlegrounds, I cant get enough of that game

>Crosshair is so bad that people make it tiny and static

This is called bad game design. If this were any other game or company, most people would laugh. If you have a mechanic that's so useless and actually counter-productive that you need to turn it off, you've made a bad game.

>>375713630
Are you retarded?

>>375713779
Are you European? Only Europeans that pretend CS is good would defend this.

>>375713630
But this game has so much customization with its crosshaies that it completely bypasses the problem of the standards one.
Also,
>Basing the quality of a game on one mechanic.

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>>375713829
It has nothing to do with whether or not CS is good. It's about you being so retarded that you can't comprehend personal preference or that people might want their crosshair to be less distracting. Not to mention the fact that CS has more crosshair customization than virtually any other game while actually using it instead of iron sights so you can't actually argue what would happen with other games. Holy fuck, I was having so much trouble comprehending your retardation that I didn't even realize you're actually calling the entire game bad because of it's fucking crosshair.

>>375688326
underrated post

>>375714389
European detected. I should've guessed so when I found out you can't comprehend basic logic. I'll try to dumb things down for your tiny uneducated brain if it helps. This game is an FPS, thus it's important for the crosshair to display accurate and useful information. In most games, the crosshair spreading out and such provides useful information. In CS however, it's actually detrimental. It provides inaccurate information, thus most players turn it off and make it static and tiny because it helps dinging people. The crosshair reflects the internal mechanics of shooting (AKA the thing you're doing most of the time) which are archaic and random. We can conclude that since this is a fact that you're at a disadvantage for keeping the spread on, this is bad game design and reflects poor internal mechanics.

Now kill yourself you retarded European. Stop shilling your dying game.

>>375687739
>>375687320 is right though

>>375713829
>>375714808
Fuck off leaf, not taking the bait, Burgers may be stupid but you're being too obvious trying to get people riled up against them.

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>>375714389
>it's

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>>375714808
>Stop shilling your dying game.
It's growing actually.