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Need help finishing this /v/. Is there anything I am missing?
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>>375679034
Why did mods lock the last one?
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Replace minority with majority and you're good to go.

Also remove Halo 5 and replace with Undertale, no one says Halo 5 is the best .
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>>375679149
people all the time say halo 5 is the best.
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>>375679149
Plenty say 5 has the best multiplayer, and it's definitely a minority that think these games are the best. Maybe a /v/ majority, but still a minority.
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>>375679034
>Fallout new vegas
>worse than Fallout 3
>worse than Fallout 4
>worse than Fallout tactics
The rest are alright by me, if you're looking to trigger people add the first witcher.
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>>375679148
Because they're probably NV and DaS 2 fans.
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>>375679034
>never heard anyone say that about Dark Souls 2
>New Vegas is the best if you only care about fallout>=3
>normies
>reddit
>normies
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>>375679034
Where's Metal Gear Solid 2?
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>>375679034
Literally the only one that belongs is ds2.
Others are good games NV or commonly recognized by plebeians as good games.
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>>375679034
>New Vegas

Hi Todd
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>>375679339
4 has the best gameplay, 3 isn't a bug ridden mess, and who cares about tactics.
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>>375679034
New Vegas and GTA 4 are objectively the best

Dark Souls 2 isnt the worst

No one regards Halo 5 as the best, maybe best multiplayer

I'll give you Infinite
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>>375679034
Nobody says Halo 5 is the best, people just say that the multiplayer is the best it's been in a while
I cannot think of a single person who actually enjoyed Halo 5's campaign, including those lore fans who adamantly defended Halo 4's
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>>375679469
I'll add this even though every MGS is trash.
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>>375679034
IV isn't bad but it's gameplay is very dated. Plus the PC port is ass.
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>>375679339

For a second there I thought you weren't a waste of skin, but you think FO3 is better than Tactics.

You, sir, are a waste of skin.

Furthermore, I dare say the most valuable part of you dried on your mother's leg as she collected her money from the night stand.
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>>375679034
Literally no-one on /v/ likes Infinite.
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>Halo 5 worse than 4

Please remove yourself
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>implying there's anyone who says Infinite is the best Bioshock
>implying there is any standard whatsoever by which you can say NV is inferior to BoS
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>>375679526
>New Vegas is the best
>IV is the best
>DaS2 isn't the worst

I never thought someone could be so wrong.
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>>375679629
Nobody liked Tactics, Fallout was never about the gameplay which is the only thing Tactics had which is why it flopped so badly it bankrupted the Fallout franchise.
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>>375679714
Neither did I, but here you are.
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>>375679034
MGS2
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>>375679149
and remove FNV
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>>375679520
>3 isn't a bug ridden mess
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>>375679520
>3 isn't a bug ridden mess,
It's 2016+1, theres a big bugfix out for NV on top of already being patched to death by obsidian.
>4 has the best gameplay
It does have some satisfying gunplay but that gets old pretty quick after clearing the next copypaste bandit hideout. On the other hand it's rpg elements are long gone with the dialogue wheel and intrusive >muh son story.
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>>375679520
>3 isn't a bug ridden mess
>isn't a bug ridden mess
>isn't
Usually these shitpot threads involve people at least making SOME effort beyond "grass is purple and the sky is green"
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>>375679034
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Remove GTA IV and NV.
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>>375679034
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon could use a spot.
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>>375679520
>3 isn't a bug ridden mess
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>>375679574
>>375679526
>>375679636
>>375679657
How have none of you seen the
>infinite is a misunderstood masterpiece
>Better multiplayer than even halo 2
Threads?
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>>375679034
GTA IV is more enjoyable than V for the multiplayer alone.
People just shit on it because muh driving.
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>>375679526
DS2 is by far the worst\
here's your you
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>>375679520

>3 isn't a bug ridden mess
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>>375679034
Replace DS2 with Bloodborne.
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>>375679919
>>375679998
>>375679863
>>375679840
>NVFags defending their alpha quality $60 game with 2004 textures

Good goys
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>>375679034
The list is correct except for NV, Fallout 3 and 4 are objectively worse
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>>375680021
And the gunplay and movement
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>>375680120
only one of those posts even says anything about NV
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>>375679520
>4 has the best gameplay,
Best combat/looting. Poor selection of guns (fixed with mods though) and poor use of legendaries.

>3 isn't a bug ridden mess

There are so many ways you can break your save.
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So far I have mgs2, anything else?
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>>375680120
It's on the same engine with the same graphical quality of fo3 you fucking idiot
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>>375679520
>3 isn't a bug ridden mess
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3 is worse than New Vegas. But only slightly.
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>>375680241
NV is way worse.
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>>375679414
>>never heard anyone say that about dark souls 2
how fucking new are you
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>>375680116
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>>375679148
Probably because these are shit threads made by an angry virgin.
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>>375680287
>>375680115
>>375679998
>>375679840
Now I know at least 2 of these are samefags.
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>>375680347
Nice argument
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>>375680347
Most of the stuff in NV you can fix with the console.

Most of the quest bugs are due to the fact the quests actually have branching paths, which is much more preferable to most of Fo3s(and most of Fo4 but they improved a little bit) quests which is kill-loot-return.
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>>375680256
Ass creed 4
Max payne 2
CS source
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>>375679526
>le sophisticated reaction image macro

Yep. Worst fanbase.
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>>375680446
>B-b-but samefags ruining muh shitty thread!

Back to lelddit with you
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>>375679149
>Undertale
>Series

Are you ok, anon?
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>>375680417
Oh the irony
>>375680265
Doesn't mean it can't be uglier retard. If your team is shit, which obsidian is, doesn't matter if you're using frost bite, they can fuck up big time.
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>>375679034
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>>375680347
Age of empires 2
Cod4
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>>375680617
>Doesn't mean it can't be uglier retard. If your team is shit, which obsidian is, doesn't matter if you're using frost bite, they can fuck up big time.
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>>375680597
>>375680459
>post the truth about how shit a game is
>bitter fanboys come out of the woodwork
Like pottery
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>>375680729
What citation do you need for that? It's common sense.
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>>375680748
>Post the truth about how shitty FO3 is
>unprovoked Autistic screeching ensues
Like pottery
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Majora's mask
Ninja gaiden black
Halo 3
Red dead redemption
Final fantasy 7 AND X-Xii
Donkey Kong country 2
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>>375680417
>angry virgin.
Thats at the very least 40% of the people that post here.
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>>375680827
In other words: I have no argument
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at least new vegas story makes sense
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>>375680921
Thanks Sawyer, I'll be sure to buy Tyranny soon
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>>375680729
I like NV's role-playing aspect, but honestly the goddamned thing is really really ugly. That engine just isn't made for orange, the way textures reflect, the sand, the transparencies, etc. It just doesn't work. Bethesda are a bunch of retards but their art designers tend to be competent.
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>>375679034
FFFFUCK OFFFFFFF
NEW VEGAS IS GOAT
IV IS BETTER THAN V BY A HUGE MARGIN BUT THE OLD TRILOGY IS BETTER BY FAR
INFINITE WASN'T EVEN CONSISTENT IN IT'S PHYSICS AND HAD FOUR ENEMY TYPES

FFFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKK THESE OPINIONS SHIT ME
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>>375681152
Art designers possibly, however their level designers are not.
Rocks, Just Rocks.
Oh and tunnels that are exactly the same 3 lay outs copy pasted 30 fucking times.
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>>375679034

I agree with everything on this list but New Vegas.

I haven't even played FNV, but surely it's better than FO3 right. FO3 was just fucking garbage, absolute, fucking, garbage.

New Vegas has to be better than it. There is no way anyone could make a worse game than Fallout 3.
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>>375681020
>if your team isn't good, doesn't matter how good the engine is
>C-CITATION NEEDED!!!

Okay, here's your evidence:
>New Vegas
>Dark Souls 2
Both use same engine as predecessor, both made by a shitty secondary team, both look worse than predecessor.

That was easy.
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>>375681271
I dont understand how people like 3 better then NV, its basically the same game with a shitload more content and way more character development. Its just a better written and voice acted game.

Also Fallout 3 had 4x the development time of NV iirc, imagine if they had the same amount.
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>>375681426
It has more content, but at the same time there's a noticeable drop in quality both in the content and the game itself.
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>>375681272
>secondary team

Obsidian is a completely independent company from Bethesda. DaS2 sucks because From were focused on building the engine for, and creating bloodborne at the same time. There is no 'second team's.
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>>375681559
> i dont know what secondary means
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>>375681513
I disagree, The Characters are better written and voice acted. The Weapons feel more lethal then FO3(4 did have best gun play tho desu), Level design in NV is light years ahead of 3, and the main story is relatively well written, there are some drawbacks for sure but its overall a better made game.
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>>375679034
Actually Bioshock 2 is the worst.
No one wants to defend that one.
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>>375681426
Came out 2 years after Fallout 3. Same reason people appreciate older Zelda games or MGS, or any series really. And it was so similar it kind of felt like an expansion, that doesn't exactly earn it a lot of points.
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>>375679469
How is MGS4 not the universally agreed shittiest MGS game?
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>>375681789
It was 1 year, but that is true.
Its sad though seeing as it felt like NV was what 3 should have been in the first place.
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>>375681661
Characters and quests are just as poorly written as any other fallout. You got an Andrew Ryan rip off, a generic military, a Julius Caesar wanna be and a "lol destruction and anarchy :p" robot all trusting a literal who they just met with some of the most important tasks for their cause.

Level design in NV is complete shit, and I'm honestly not sure how you can argue this.
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>>375681792

Because fags with shit taste liked the melodrama apparently.
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>>375679034
Nice bait thread you fucking gigantic faggot. If you honestly think that new vegas is worse than three than you need to leave. If you think that gta4 was worse than gta 5 you need to go. If you think das2 is worse than the the soulless shitstain that is dark souls 3 or the incomplete garbage that is dark souls 1 you need to die. Bioshock infinite is fucking terrible and just about everyone on this board agrees except gigantic baiting retards and redditors. No one here played halo 5 and no one here has really cares about halo since the third game. Also if you think mgs2 is worse than Peace walker, GZ, and the TPP you are absolutely disgusting.
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>>375682006
>level design in NV is complete shit
Nigga have you played 3 before? Its literally the exact same terrible design copied and pasted over and over.
I never said NV had good level design, just how it was an improvement over 3.
Imo the story was far more engaging and interesting then "hurr vault because its the new marketing thing" and "hurr war over a water purifier even though everyone's same goal is to just turn it on".
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>>375680365
I didn't keep up with its release.
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>>375682271
NV was definitely not an improvement on 3 for level design. The world map was worse, and individual locations felt like a chore to trek through in Vegas.

And if you think it's as simple as "well, everyone wanted to turn it on so what's the big deal" then I don't understand why you think NV is any better with that thought process. Not sure what you meant by the vault thing.
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>>375679034
If you actually think NV is worse than FO3 and FO4 you have absolute bottom of the barrel shit taste.
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>>375682532
And if you think 3 and 4 are bad you're a memeing faggot.
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>>375679034
>bioshock infinte
>vocal minority
lmao
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>>375682508
Just take a second and go walk around DC in FO3, its all subways. The Same 3 subways copied and pasted over and over about 30 times. Interiors are almost identical however.
The world map is considerably better, so many directions in 3 are blocked by rocks for no fucking reason. I fucking live in the area its in, geographical locations are off, And there sure is fuck isn't rocks literally everywhere.
>Not sure what you meant by the vault thing.
Bethesda centered the first part of the game around vaults for marketing purposes alone, the start point could have been with any other faction and it wouldn't have impacted the story one bit.
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>>375679520
>best game play
>Smallest selection of guns. Guns that make no sense like an assault rifle with a water cooled barrel, or miniguns with a bayonet.
>Features present in FONV were pulled, like making ammo. No more hand loading broke ass rounds. Have fun stocking massive reserves of munitions for guns you don't use.
>Power armor became god mode.
>You can use power armor completely untrained. No interesting game play dynamics where you exchange extreme resistance to certain types of fire arms in return for vulnerability to others.
>You get your first suit 10 minutes into the game.
>You will eventually accumulate so many power cells that you only leave power armor when you want to.
>The exact same on-rails opening sequence that Bethesda has been squarely shit on for having in their last two major releases- Skyrim and FO:3.
>Bethesda is still using the same fucking Gamebryo engine that they first used on Morrowwind, resulting in bugs and terrible optimization.
>Every new feature in some shape or form was a mod for FO3 or New Vegas.
>The story is still stupid, just maybe not as insultingly so.
>You can actually break the game, forcing a reload of a previous save for doing what some people will logically do when they reach the Institution.
>Settlements never stop needing help no matter how well defended you make them.
>Anything remotely interesting is a one-in-one hundred kind of thing.
>Picking perks was apparently such a dreadful thing that they replaced it with the SPECIAL tree, effectively rendering unique play through impossible since you can conceivably not hit the core features of, say, a stealth build till level 13 or so.


The only two things FO4 actually gets credit for was improving how grenades worked, and the new ghouls. And if you ignore what they did with power armor, the updated armor system that let you improve armor with add-ons was a novel idea, even if the execution was shit.


>3 isn't a bug ridden mess

3 and NV were roughly equal.
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>>375682778
Well I live in the Southwest and it looks nothing like New Vegas so that point is retarded. As for interiors, ALL the fucking interiors in New Vegas are basically just copied and pasted hallways; the casinos are probably the only locations to actually try and look different.
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>>375683130
and literally every interior in 3 is copy and pasted over and over, Again im not implying level design in NV was good, However i am implying its better then 3. For the simple fact that there is more copy pasted designs to begin with.
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>>375682919
Nice wall of text no one is gonna read.
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>>375679034
>anything I am missing?

A fucking brain cell, you dingus

>new vegas
>worse than f3
>worse than f4

seriously consider suicide, you turd
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I'd replace Halo 5 with Reach or ODST but shit like this only considers the last half a year or so. I'm not saying Reach doesn't deserve it, but if you're just gonna be a retard about shit you might as well just put the most bait worthy shit in it
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>FO:NV worse than 3 and 4
>GTAIV worse than 5
>Halo 5 worse than 4
FAKE NEWS
SAD
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>>375680008
"Misunderstood masterpiece" =/= "best in series"

Go back to 5th grade and learn what a superlative statement is.
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>>375682284
It's more of the fact that DaS2 apologists are a strange subgroup who have recently sprung up with Bloodbornes release, were quelled, and then came back with a vengeance with DaS3's release.
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>>375679034
>Bioshock Infinite
Literally who is saying this.
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>>375682629
>yes
>maybe (yes)
>no ...yes

shit i guess you're right
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>>375682629
3 and 4 are bad, you're the faggot, faggot.
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>>375683951
Are you honestly suggesting there aren't people who think Infinite is the best? Go back to basic math and learn what probability and statistics are faggot
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>>375684350
>Are you honestly suggesting there aren't people who think Infinite is the best?

I don't think that's what he's suggesting at all, friendo
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>>375684248
>>375684328
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>>375684445
>he
Sure. And he's suggesting it.
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Remove Bioshock and replace it with some other game. It's not by any means a minority calling it good. Not saying it is great, but it sure as hell isn't a vocal minority. That's like saying not many people buy Call of Duty.
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>GTAIV
>Worst
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>>375684614
But infinite is the worst in the series and only a few people call it the best.
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>>375679925
>3D World
>worse than 3D Land

Think next time
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>>375680630
Absolutely correct, shit game with shit stages and shit controls
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>>375679629
FO3 is better than tactics, in fact its the best in the series come at me
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>>375679034
>FO:NV worst in its series
>Halo 5 being hailed by anyone
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>>375679034

>new Vegas
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>>375681779
Bioshock 2 had the best gameplay among the Bioshock games.
Infinite had nothing but a waifu.
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>>375679520
>3 isn't a bug ridden mess,
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>>375679520

>gameplay equates to nothing more than shooting things

this is why this hobby sucks now
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>>375679034
>New Vegas
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Call of Duty Black Ops 3.

Brought the ridiculousness to an incredible level. Nothing about this game was good. I don't like many of the recent CoD games but can always find something enjoyable (good balance in Ghosts, map design in Advanced Warfare, multiplayer in general in Infinite Warfare) but nothing about Black Ops 3 was fun.
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>>375679840
That's a pretty old image anon, nice
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>>375679034
I'll take the bait.
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>>375680938
2/10 see me after class
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>>375685939
>someone took the time to make that
If you need a fucking chart to explain why a game isn't shit, it's shit.
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>>375686031
>if you explain why the game isn't shit then it's shit
really gets me thinking
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>>375686031

what a lazy non-argument
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78
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>>375684350
People who have an unusual opinion =/= "vocal minority". Take a 1st-grade language arts class so you can learn that "some random dude said something once" doesn't mean the same thing as "vocal minority".
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>>375686136
>>375686145
New Vegas Babies, everyone
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>>375682006
>a "lol destruction and anarchy :p" robot all trusting a literal who they just met with some of the most important tasks for their cause
>literal who
He is the fucking Courier and he deserved that.
>survives two shoots in the head
>track down Benny
>confront him
>kill him and his chairmen (optional)
>retrieve the platinum chip
>undertands what it does
>betray House (optional)
>decide what to do with other factions
>destroys every single faction (optional)
>rule a truly independent New Vegas

Do you event played the game?
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>>375680190
IV has the best driving in the series, fuck you.
Just master the handbrake.

I'll agree the movement is much improved in V, though.
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>>375679034
I understand New Vegas maybe not being the best (Fallout 2 would be a good argument for best) but its not the worst, how could it be when 3 and 4 exist?

No one says Halo 5 is the best, only that it might have the best multiplayer. Never heard anyone describe Infinite as the best. I totally agree with DS 2 and GTA 4 though. People with severe shit taste seem to find them the best when they are so terrible in comparison to other games in their series.
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>>375682006
Isn't it mentioned that the robot is only following you because Benny never added code to make it not take orders from anyone else.
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>>375686364

yep keep those non-arguments coming
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>>375684462
Literally the only thing F04 did better than the previous tittles
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>>375686593
Also pump the brakes and go easy on the gas and you'll see how fun it can be once you get the hang of it.
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>>375679149
You're fucking retarded.
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Opinions aside, there is no world in which NV is objectively inferior to BoS and IV is objectively inferior to at the very least Advance. The others, sure, but these two are pure bait.
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>>375683215
>Again im not implying level design in NV was good...

God I hate fucking pussies like you, too scared to stand up for anything or say anything is good, but more than happy to tear something else down and throw it under the bus. So what are you doing, defending a bad game against a game you think is worse? Fucking christ you coward.
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>>375686649
Ok
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>>375679034
fixed it for you pham
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Nobody thinks 5 is the best game in the series, though?

Plenty of people think it has some of the best MP, which is true, but nobody thinks it's the best overall

>>375680008
Best MP in the series/since 2 =/= best in the series overall

Even the people who think 5 has the best MP, even better then 2 say it has the worst single player
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>>375679149
>Also remove Halo 5 and replace with Undertale
>Undertale is the worst game in its series
>series
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>>375686895
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>look I want attention so I'll make a thread online to trigger them faggotos xDDD
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So is this the New Vegas thread?
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I love NV (modded) as much as the next man, but it's vanilla was pretty fucking bad.

Was it worse than 3 though, honestly? I think not.
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>>375679034
Now that is some finely crafted bait
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>>375687043

hay man?
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>>375686951
Tt. NVFag
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>>375687043
Horse feed farmer?
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>>375681030
Only criticism of this post is that ghouls do go insane if they abuse their radiation healing ability although I doubt the script writers of 3 even remembered this.
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Persona 3
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>>375679034
Every Dark Souls game, Bioshock game, and Halo game is compete trash.
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>>375684462
both of these designs are equally fucking retarded from an engineering standpoint.

try again, faggot
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new vegas is a great game, and while I can entertain the mindset normalfags who think 3 or 4 are better, you straight up haven't played the whole series if you think it's worse than tactics or brotherhood of steel.

Similarly, you have to be completely blinded by nostalgia if you think anything about, say, gtaIII wasn't vastly improved upon by 4.

Counting all games with all DLC, Dark souls 2 is the worst in the series, but it's still a great game, and it has the best magic gameplay and multiplayer in the series, DeS and bloodborne included.

Unironically no one gives a shit about halo (any number higher than 3) except for 343 shills and contrarian shitposters.

You're right on the money about bioshock infinite though. Normalfags blinded by the razzle-dazzle of a s00per d33p story who can't see what a downgrade they were given.
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>>375679034
>halo 5
>best at anything

lmaokek
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>>375687795
I just like /ss/ otherwise I wouldn't care about it
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>>375679034
Agree.
3 is worse than NV
Agree
Nobody says this, and even if they are, they aren't vocal
Don't really know about the Halo community

Add Super Mario Sunshine and pretty much every gamecube version of any Nintendo franchise
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>>375687896
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>>375688013
>hating on Fire emblem path of radiance
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>>375687195
>>375687418
being this dense
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>>375687896
Well, the argument was 4's is better :^) which it is! Come again
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>>375688108
there's a big difference between hating a game and not praising it as the best thing since sliced bread
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>>375687896
Who cares about engineering in a game where highly mutated gigantic albino lizards can talk?
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>>375679034
>dark souls
who fucking cares

>fallout nv worst in series
nigga have you played brotherhood of steel?

>GTAIV worse than GTA3
full fucking retard, it's a straight upgrade in every single area

>bioshock infinite
I've never seen anyone claim this is the best, but I'll let you have this one because it really is shit

>halo 5
never had an xbox but everyone i've talked to liked reach the best


Your thread sucks OP and everyone posting in it is a double nigger
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>>375688124
Kind of like the hay in that forage guy you posted.
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>>375679520
>4 has best gameplay
Action maybe, gameplay no
>3 isn't a bug ridden mess
>im-fucking-plying
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>>375688124

It's like they're joking or something.

Weird..
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>>375679034

Should trigger a few people. I'd have to echo adding the first Witcher, and also an MGS game. It doesn't matter which one.

Also, add Breath of the Wind.
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>>375688262
The hay was actually packed pretty densely.
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>>375688208
Considering the OP literally said "worst games in our series" I'd say I was making a reasonable assumption about what you were trying to say.

It's still a contender for best game in the series
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>>375687915
People who say 4, 3 or even NV are the worst clearly never EVER played BoS. The game is SO BAD it's not even classfied as a Fallout game.
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>>375688168
>4 has subjectively better looking enclave power armour, therefore 3 and 4 are better games overall than NV

If you are actually making this point, you can go fuk
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>>375688301
Nice Anti-Humor, I guess...
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>>375688406
If it's not classified as a fallout game then why would it be included
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>>375688453

you must be german or something
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>>375679970

YOU JUST A WHAT NIGGA
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>>375688223
who cares about the point when you can go off on a tangent every fucking second
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>>375679034
>Das2
It's a meme
>Bioshite
Story was good, worst gameplay
>Halo 5
Multilayer maybe, campaign was terribad
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>>375679970
I think order of ecclesia would fit better here. Trash game with trash gameplay but retards love it because "muh female MC and magic"
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>>375688438
Well, 4 had better gameplay, a better map, better graphics, better models, more customization options and more verticality which is always a plus imo
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>>375688306
Majora's Ocarina is worse.

Also my fav is The Wildwaker
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>>375679970
It's far from being the worst of the series, considering the N64 games, the Kojima ones and the Game Boy one.
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>>375688504
Because it actually IS a Fallout game. The COMMUNITY doesn't classify it as so, but it still has the Fallout name on it.
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>>375688602
>>375679970
Both are improvements from Symphony of the Night, you guys are spoiled.
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>>375688608
Yep, you're fucking retarded.
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>bioschlok: waifu edition
>hailed on /v/
Nice try, reddit.
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FUCK YOU GTA IV IS MUC HBETTER THAN V OR EVEN VS

FUCK YOUR ASS IN THE FACE
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>>375688861
>I'm just going to call you retarded even though your post was objectively correct and I can't refute it

Kekerino
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>>375688535
What? I was trying to say Fallout doesn't make sense because it does not need to. What's the point in trying to think LOCICALLY about fucking Power Armors in a world where a fucking tree can talk to you?
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>>375689074
He doesn't have an argument so he's trolling you. Bringing up the science in a science fiction game to prove a point is the dumbest thing you can do
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Oblivion.
More than anything you posted.
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>>375688608
You're posting in the wrong thread for honest opinions and discussion about fallout 4 but you're absolutely right on most all accounts there. I wouldn't call the gameplay better - combat, maybe, but not the actual RPG elements, and while the gear customization is superficially improved it's still pretty shallow - but in terms of all the rest it did a great job of actually bringing the series into the present or making small improvements.
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What are the TOP 3 meme games?
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>>375688620

Doesn't really matter what's worse. Better to focus on what would rustle the most jimmies.
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>>375681269
>defending the empty desert

nvfags are the worst. game has good roleplaying, sucks at everything else big time.
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>>375683553

>s-stop proving me wrong!
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>>375688608
What about, you know, ROLE PLAYING?
WHAT ABOUT CHOICES THAT MATTER??
WHAT ABOUT FACTIONS AND CHARACTERS THAT FUCKING AREN'T WRITTEN BY A 5 YEARS OLD????

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Seriously tho, F04 isn't as shitty as people pretend it to be, yeah I know NV is better and blah blah blah, but It's a pretty fun game if you like the post-apocalypt style. Also, I don't know why people still hate on it, the game is already dead, go play something else ffs
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>>375689383
i think you didn't get my joke... or i am i the one who doesn't get it???
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>>375689443

Anon, they actually made walking around the Mohave mildly interesting. They get points for that already. The real thing is fucking boring. Literally the worst desert in the continental US.
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>>375688608
>better gameplay

yes, yes, yes (No)

>better map

Nice bunch of shooting galleries

>better graphics

Wow, the newer game looks less like shit!

>better models

Wow, the newer game looks less like shit!

>more customization options

You mean the exactly two types of player characters?

>more verticality

true
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>>375689476
Literally didn't even read it. To help you with future arguments, learn to keep things short and to the point
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>>375689680
of course you didn't read it, fag

you're afraid it's going to prove you wrong (it did)
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>>375689680

>The fallout 4 player doesn't read
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>>375689673
>yes, yes, yes (No)
By gameplay I meant gun fights, combat, power armor, armor being place able over clothes, VATs, etc.

>Nice bunch of shooting galleries
Still better, more varied that's for sure.

>Wow, the newer game looks less like shit!
New Vegas was newer and somehow looked worse. Still looks better which is my point.

>Wow, the newer game looks less like shit!
Again, still proves my point.

>You mean the exactly two types of player characters?
No, I mean settlement building, creating your (physical) character, more clothes and armor, etc. Lacks on rpg elements for sure, but not what I'm arguing. They actually made misc items and junk useful through crafting.
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>>375690063
>By gameplay I meant gun fights, combat, power armor, armor being place able over clothes, VATs, etc.

no wonder modern RPGs are such shit
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>>375679034
>(You) generator: The Thread.
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>>375689758
>>375690002
I already know what was on your post because you fags always spew the same repeated shit over and over again, many of which is subjective.

>tfw New Vegas fans are stuck in the past and refuse to acknowledge their games faults
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>>375690153
They're shit because they're being streamlined and made more accessible to a wider audience. Every company is guilty of doing this, even obsidian
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>>375679034
can't speak for fallout
GTA4 isn't that bad
the rest is spot on
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>>375690153
>dodging the topic to avoid admitting he's right
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>>375690063

>gun fights, combat

arguably wrong

>power armor

It's not really lore-friendly, but true.

>armor being place able over clothes

true

>VATs

subjective

>Still better, more varied that's for sure.

The Strip, Freeside, Novac, Nipton, Quarry Junction, Black Mountain, NCRCF...?

>New Vegas was newer

than what?

>a lot of fluff

It's supposed to be an RPG.
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>>375690841
In what way is NV's combat and gunplay better than 4?

And NV was a downgrade from 3.
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>>375679034
Spot on with GTA4.
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>>375679034
I only know Dark Souls II and F: NV.
both are fucking good for what they are.
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>>375679034
>New Vegas
>worst
I'll give you that it's overrated but come on. Fallout was complete shit even before 3.
And quit whining about GTAIV being too grey and serious. You want wacky go play Saints Row.
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>>375679034
Oblivion.
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>>375690949

>In what way is NV's combat and gunplay better than 4?

NV's guns don't look, sound and work like toys,
the difficulty depends less on bullet sponges.
You're not forced to fight Super Muties or Raidersâ„¢ every 7 minutes.

>And NV was a downgrade from 3.

No (?)
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>this is the typical New Vegas fan
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>>375679034

GTAIV is patrician and deserves to be on the "art game" list way more than any Nintendo/Sony Jap shit.
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>>375691653
>NV's guns don't look, sound and work like toys
You're right, they're clunky, ugly, and feel like they're from a pre-2005 game
>the difficulty depends less on bullet sponges.
What?
>You're not forced to fight Super Muties or Raidersâ„¢ every 7 minutes.
Yeah, just geckos and insects instead, or raiders renamed to be Chem addicts.
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>>375683553
Fallout 4 players don't read. Go figure...
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Well, at least we can all agree IV is a repulsive piece of shit.
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>>375692104
New Vegas fags beating a dead horse...

Woah...
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>>375681152
Agreed, glowing green cataracts is the best art design.
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>>375690949
Fallout 4 has better gunplay. But that is about it. The "customization" in Fallout 4 is basically "do you want your gun to be objectively better or not." Wow. Such deep customization. Add in the fact that there is piss poor weapon variety. For example, you are introduced to more pistols in the first couple of hours of FoNV than you will see in the entirety of Fo4.
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>>375691843
LMAOOO ROASTEDD XDDD
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>>375692221
Shouldn't you be busy playing Sims-meets-Minecraft-It-Just-Works 4?
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>>375692116
Better than V, but by no means the best GTA.
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>>375692540
Lol ebin meme my friend :^) *high fives you*

Let's continue to praise a shitty game while making fun of a game that is literally exactly like it in every way except story :^P
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>>375692353
Why is customization so shit in games? Why can't I just paint my stuff the way I want? We had this years ago.
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sfv is worse but TS isn't that far behind

with ultra and ST being the best, followed by a2/a3
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>>375679034
no one says dark souls 2 is the best souls, nor do people say new vegas is the best fallout, people say dark souls 2 is the best pvp souls and that new vegas is the best bethesda era fallout
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>Atleast New Vegas characters make se-
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>>375679148
Breath of the wild, also megaman X1.
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>>375684462
>Real Armor
>Doesn't protect against 10mm rounds

>Puny Armor
>Only armor piercing or high calibre rounds can damage you when worn
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>>375692703
>Fallout 4
>like Fallout NV in every way except story
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>375692807
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>>375692807
I've seen people call NV the best. And Souls PvP was never good.
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>>375692802
Absolutely wrong. Third Strike is the best SF game out there if not one of the best fighting games of all time.
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>>375692939
Talking about 3 hermano.
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>>375692792
But you can call your guns anything you want! And you can put a scope on a shotgun! Truly Fallout 4 is the greatest RPG ever made! Hail Todd Howard!
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>>375692054

>4's weapons are clunky, ugly, and feel like they're from a pre-2005 game

You're right.

>What?

[sounds of "vault dweller emptying six magazines on dog" in the distance]

>He didn't notice the different sets of armors and backstory for raider groups.
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>>375692821
>but at least the writing and dialogue are goo-
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>>375693052
it isn't, the neutral is retarded because of parrying, compared to ST/USF4 which are more intelligent games that require more commitment and thought

parries are a mistake, you shouldn't be able to totally get rid of any damage just with tech, sorry
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>>375693078
I don't have any huge issues with 3. It's a fun game. But NV improves on pretty much everything.
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>>375693181
>he thinks New Vegas' gunplay is better than 4's

I've seen New Vegas fans try to make some retarded arguments for things, but this takes the cake.
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>>375693182
>a great warrior will never consider a peaceful solution to a problem
what did he mean by this?
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>>375693126
I think this is why even people who like 4 don't bother defending it. It did nothing well. Not the settlements. Not the power armors. Not the voice acting. Not the crafting. Not the customization. I wonder how many people even recall their playthrough by now.
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>>375692821

>three dimensional characters are bad

It's even lampshaded in the game.
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>>375693307
Does this look like a cool gun to you? Answer honestly.
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>>375679520
>3 isn't a bug ridden mess
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>>375693371
But you can build settlements! And if you don't you... you uhhh... well you don't have to if you don't want to! Player choice! And you get to craft everything from everything! Everything has a use! So you can painstakingly collect junk from everywhere! Yaaaay!
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>>375692054
>You're right, they're clunky, ugly, and feel like they're from a pre-2005 game
Maybe the jury-rigged weapons that are designed to look and feel inferior to well made weapons, but the well made ones are pretty passable at the very least
>the difficulty depends less on bullet sponges
NV enemies go down in just a few shots unless you're using broken or shit weapons, whereas F4 enemies tank 10s of hits and then gain all their health back and resist double damage because they're ''''legendary''''
>Yeah, just geckos and insects instead, or raiders renamed to be Chem addicts.
Maybe if you spend all your playthrough in the starting area or fiend territory, but if you branch out and, you know play the game, you'll fight a large variety of enemies. Certainly more than F4 has you face.
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>>375679034
Anybody who thinks Halo 5 is a good game is a fucking pleb.
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>>375693570
You're just nostalgic!
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>>375679034
what's it like to suck shit at every video game ever made OP?
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>>375693601
>Anybody who thinks Halo is a good game is a fucking pleb.
FTFY
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>>375693182
>>375692821
Yeah that is such terrible writing in comparison to the game with a giant robot throwing nuclear bombs like footballs
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>>375693639
Ohhhhhh come on man
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>>375693628
Hey! You know those pesky "numbers" and "stats" for nerds? Boring! We simplified everything to moving pictures that explain what they do! It's really fun and easy to build your own, entirely unique character that completes objectives and responds to other characters the SAME way EVERY time! Hooray!
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>>375693750
I don't want to play devil's advocate, but 4's system could have worked if Bethesda had any idea of what they were doing. There's no point making skills go up to 100 when skill checks are multiples of 10 and 15.
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>>375693750
At least the gunplay is good.
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>>375679520
Nobody cares about Fallout Tactics because it's shit. It's still part of the Fallout series.
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>>375693705
Yeah, because Prime sticks out in a game full of mutants, fish people, robots and giant lizards
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>>>375679034
>Is there anything I am missing?
iq points
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>>375693452
I like the 40s diesel punk aesthetics, but I can understand why people wouldn't like it. Looked more like an lmg. Doesn't mean there aren't any good looking guns in 4.

Also it's fallout 3/new vegas counterpart wasn't exactly good looking either.
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>>375693976
XD
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>>375693902
Ideally, skills should measure abilities such that each point has an immediate effect, and perks are for flair and flavor, things that bend the rules of the game.

I agree that it is pretty stupid how lockpick/science work. I think they should have assigned every lock/terminal in the game a difficulty from 1 to 100, not just 0, 25, 50, 75, and 100. Just like how New Vegas did speech checks.

The perk system could have worked if there were more perks to choose from (not just duplicates) and they didn't restrict perks by attribute or level requirements. It's stupid to have to wait till level 20 to get a perk that isn't even super powerful but is important to roleplaying. And the way Fallout 4 hamfisted perks into arbitrary attributes worked terribly. It should have just been a massive web or tree of perks to choose from.
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>>375692821
>Megalomaniac dictator is a hypocrite
>>375693182
>Being a fierce warrior means you can never listen to reason

What's your point, Bruno Fammartino?
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>>375693182
""""""can""""""
If you max your speech. Also, the dialogue in that exchange is good.
>>375693950
I enjoyed the sparse bits of dark humor in Fallout 2, 3 and NV but having the climax of the main storyline involve you escorting a two story high war robot shouting "Death is a preferable alternative to Communism" stuck out.
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>>375694167
You're telling me THIS doesn't look better?
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>>375694368
It doesn't fit the Tumblr artist's black and white vision.
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>>375679034
Subjective
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>>375694449
I'm telling you it looks generic and bland, and same goes for the AR I was referencing.
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>>375679034
>NV
The fact that you even centered it in the chart proves this is bait.

The rest are kinda bad though, I totally agree.
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>>375694548
>an aluminum can with a trigger looks better than something that looks like it could actually function
really makes you think
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>>375679520
>3 isn't a bug ridden mess

>Someone had to manually alter game files to make the game run on any pc at all when it came out
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>>375693639
>confirmed for being born after the first Halo was released

You would never say this if you'd have played Halo Combat Evolved within a few years of its release, partly same with Halo 2 and 3
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>>375694445
>>375693182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjffbUgfVME
Almost forgot how good the voice acting for Lanius is
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>>375694701
God forbid they try making their own guns rather than just taking weapons from today and adding them into the game.
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>>375694587
>I disagree so it's bait
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>>375679520
>3 isn't a bug ridden mess
Pkhkkhjhjhhkhkkfffft WAT
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>>375694881
Yeah, sure. I played the game they cloned. Do you know which?
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>>375695075
>Completely worse compared to something like Fallout 4

3 I can kind of see, but anyone saying that NV is the WORST in the franchise is either disabled or is baiting, there's having preference and there's being blind to blatant flaws.
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>>375694701
>an aluminum can
You do know several real machine guns from before the 40s look like that, right?
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>>375679034
B8 chart

were is FO4
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>>375695152
>there's having preference and there's being blind to blatant flaws.

You just summed up something all NVFags need to understand.
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>>375695128
so what? whatever game you are referring to Halo did it better with its storytelling and atmosphere. CE's multipalyer was shit yes, but that campaign...
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>>375695270
>Implying I said NV was perfect

Yeah, but narrative wise it's superior to 4 and it gives you more freedom of choice without holding your hand. The only thing 4 got down was the basic gun play mechanics, I wanna say game play overall but that game is just one giant fetch quest.
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>>375695305
>Halo did it better with its storytelling and atmosphere
Jesus. And I'm the young one? Yeah, whatever, fighting damage sponges on slower UT is just great.
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>>375693182
>peerless warrior and hardened commander who takes great pride in his status

that's why you can talk him down comparatively easily. He's not batshit insane, you don't rise to legate being batshit insane, he's reasonable, and especially if caesar's dead he would be disgusted by the idea that a glorious, honorable victory at the dam and subsequent conquest of the NCR could turn to a shameful failure, brought down by petty things like infighting, logistics, attrition and overexertion.
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>>375679520
>3 wasn't a bug ridden mess
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>>375695403
as I said, campaign != multiplayer. you should try a storydriven game sometime anon
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>>375694238
thank you reddit
>>
I prefer Fo3 to NV, I admit that NV had a lot more weapon variety and modding was fun, but the entire rest of the game just felt so empty/unfinished/lifeless (Idk how to really describe it)
However I DID play fallout 3 to absolute death (I think I 100%'d it at least twice and that does include DLCs) before NV so I might have just been burnt out by the time I got to NV

One thing that we can all agree on is that Fallout 3 is FAR superior when it comes to the radio stations
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>>375695734
I never said anything about multiplayer. Halo gameplay is garbage. What the fuck. If I wanted a story driven game I wouldn't be playing a shooter.
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>>375679034
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>BABY TO BRAINLET TO ENJOY NEW VEGAS
get fukt
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>>375696016
I think it's trying to communicate...
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>>375679840
>Patch for Fallout 3 comes out
>VATS now takes much longer to load up percents, often coming up with 0%
>Shooting grenades in the air with VATS never was fixed, even into New Vegas

I'll never not be angry
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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