>hottest character is also the best char in the game

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Chunners would sufficate this impure hag with her thighs in approximately 14.76 seconds.

>>375676723
>Chunfag
>calling anyone impure
>especially fucking Karin

>>375676962

Chun is pure. She has no kids.

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>>375676276
Top taste OP. But she is not the best character in the game.

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>>375677465
>consistently makes top 8 since her debute
>2 majors in season 2
>not the best

>>375677580
Winning tournaments involves more than just the character. Are you really this much of a retard or are you just trolling?

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>>375677718

Name me a low tier winning EVO.

>>375677718
>individual player skill
>meaning anything in Babby Fighter V

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>>375676276
Nice try, anon.

>>375676276
>Pre-release
>One Birdie player does well
>Birdie is OP!
>Release (after this point no more balance patches happen until season 2)
>Sim does well online
>Sim is OP!
>Two Nash players do well in tournament
>Nash is OP!
>Nash players start losing
>Ryu and Chun are OP!
>DLC characters all released they're all considered shit
>Du wins Capcom Cup
>Guile & Mika is OP
>Season 2 starts
>Du continues to win
>Guile is still OP!
>Urien Laura and Balrog do well online
>Urien Laura and Balrog are OP!
>Ibuki wins a tournament
>Ibuki is the best character in the game!!!!!!
>One Karin player wins everything
>Karin is op!!!!!


huh really makes me think people talking about character strength are true intellectuals

>>375678253

Nash and Chunners got gutted in Season 2.

Karin has always been good.

>>375678357
Season two started in later december
Nash stopped winning in the middle of last year

And what happened to Ibuki, Laura, Balrog, Urien, Guile, and all the other """"strongest""""" season 2 characters before Karin?

>>375678357
>Karin
>good
Maybe learn to block. She's got no gameplan beyond rush down with her one mix up.

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>ourdude punk showing jbong and mango how you do this

>>375678518

Japs still love Ibuki.

Too bad Japs suck at video games without their arcade headstart. Balrog and Urien are online killers only.

>>375676723
>Chunners would sufficate this impure hag with her thighs in approximately 14.76 seconds.
I want to see this, for sexy reasons. Watching Karin's body struggling to escape while it flails and thrashes around wildly, almost erotically.

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>>375676276
>Karin
>Hottest SFV character

Please can we be serious just this once

>>375678763
>SFV story mode shows Chun is mediocre in strength while Karin is pretty much super human
Hmm....

>>375678874

being slutty isnt the same as being pretty

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>>375678874
>no boots
God bless

>>375678949
I don't care about storymode, I care about what pleases my dick. Gimme what I want.

>>375679362
No can do, kid. Karin top Chump-Ri bottom

>>375678134
If this was the case Wong and Mago would be winning tournaments but look where they are.

Aside from JWong, Mago and Punk, who else even plays Karin?

Honestly you only see a handful of them at any tournament because she's a very technical character no matter how many people meme to the contrary.

>>375679459
Then fuck off and don't waste my time idiot.

>>375676276
That's funny you posted karin when you were clearly referring to urien, weird

>>375679709
gayboiz

>>375679709
Who the fuck even plays Urien? Nemo?

>>375676276
Is it just me or is the art style in this game kinda ugly? I'm not asking for everything to be moe moe kawaii anime style, but it looks like the Nip version of an AAA western game.

>>375680212
Personally I like it. Would kill for another clayfighter.

Much better the IV's garbage style.

>>375679473
who cares, nobody's gonna sit on the top for long in this game. They'll randomly get their chance eventually.

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>>375680212
It's not just you.

>>375677580
One player is successful eith the character. Every other Karin barely makes it out of pools.

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>>375678874
Well if we're being serious...

>>375677872
Luffy won with Gen.

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>>375680212
Looks way better than SF4. Still 2d to 3d will never look great. Unless you go super Animu like Guilty Gear. But if Capcom did that it wouldn't fit SF.

>>375680887
Xian won with gen ,luffy won with rose. And all Xian did was prove that gen had serious potential. He was never bad.

>>375677872
Justin Wong winning UMvC3 with Wolverine, Storm and Akuma.

Xian winning SF4 with Gen

>>375680887
Luffy won with Rose you dumb fuck.

Xian won with Gen.

>>375681000
Because sf4 was a clusterfuck with a billion characters and most people lost because they didnt know the gen matchup.

>>375680895
it looks good on the guys, the gals not so much

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>>375680212
Yes, SFV has poor character models.

Capcbros forgot what good characters look like, so that's why characters like Chun-li look sufficiently sexy to them.

>>375680895
>2d to 3d will never look great
It's not Capcom's first 3D game. They just hired shit modelers.

>>375681085

Face wise, Chun Li, Karin and Cammy have never looked better before.

>>375677872
Has never happened because "low tier" characters are instantly considered S++++ tier anytime they win anything

>>375681000

And then Capcom nerfed Gen.

>>375681052
>Xian wins
>Gen considered broken
>Luffy wins
>Rose considered broken


>Street Fighter V considered a random game with no footies and only mixup machines like Ibuki and R.Mika can win
>Punk wins consistently with footies and honest play even defeating Fuudo 5-0 in an honest footies match

>>375681238
Isn't this Karin's first 3D model?

>>375677872
KBR won with fucking Hulk/Haggar/Sentinel.

>>375679015
Nigga all the SF5 women are slutty.

>>375681812
>Punk wins consistently with footies and honest
Don't forget teenage reaction time.

>>375682620
Did Punk ever play anything else? As retarded as it sounds, sometimes coming in from previous iterations hurts you because you try to be too "honest" in what you exploit. A good example of this are Melee players going to Smash 4 and focusing on the wrong things.

>>375682909
He played SF4 and admits it's a better game but SFV caters more to his play style.

>>375681238
Do they? Chun Li and Karin look a little mannish to me

because karin, although gimped from sfa3, is the only honest character in SFV that allows people with actual fundamentals and footsies to play to their strengths instead of dash+mashing like an idiot

>>375682909
Punk played as honest as it gets for this game. Just straight up footsies and punishes.

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>>375683037
Funny joke.

>>375683150
but it's true you braindead 16er cuckold.

>>375681812
>Over a year after SFV comes out
>Punk starts winning everything and washing out everyone
>Everyone notices that whiff punishes are an actual thing and it's not just randomly poking and buffering

But honestly, I see his performance and I honestly can't see myself ever getting to that level. Reacting to shit in SFV is still pretty hard.

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>current best karin

>>375683273
>current best player

ftfy

>>375682909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=431QsMCTftA
12 year old Punk beating ELEAGUE invited pro gamer Gootecks in Street Fighter 4

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>>375683037

>>375683315
Has he faced Du?

>>375680805
this

>>375683453
Yes, at NCR.

Lost the first set and ran it back in GF.

>>375683386

>Beating Gootecks
>In any way an accomplishment

Gootecks has never been even close to good at SF4 and especially SFV.

>>375683453
He didn't face Du.
He dismantled Du.

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>>375683034
>Chun Li
>mannish
Get you eyes checked. SFV's models looks fine unless we are talking about Ken and I would argue that he still looks better than He-man Ken from SF4.

>>375683545
True but the point is he isn't some random kid who just picked up Street Fighter last week.
also
>Implying Gootecks wouldn't be a back to back to back Capcom Cup champ if Urien were in SF4 and Rose were in SFV

>>375683649
I mean, yeah. Just look at her. Am I the only one who has a problem with this?

>>375683850

He wouldn't, Gootecks is deadset shit.

>>375683534
>>375683582
I eagerly await to see them at it again at evo

>>375683874

If you think Chun Li looks mannish you need to get your eyes checked or your brain reprogrammed.

>>375684030
Heh, ok. Whatever you say. We'll see who's right when SF6 drops.

>>375684130
Now now anon, his lowtest aint hurtin no know.

>>375683534
NCR grand finals was pretty fuckin great, I honestly didn't expect Punk to bring it back from loser's.

>>375684131

I should buy his book are pay for his lessons that cost more than players he could never touch in skill level like Justin, lmao. What's wrong with him.

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>>375683273
>Dreamhack grand finals
>Punk whiffs his critical art
>Haitani whiffs his critical art
>dash up throw

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>375676276
Street fighter art style is garbage

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>>375683874
Yes it's just you. She's a goddess.

>>375676276
she is also the cheapest

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>>375684235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ih06VY71vA
At least he finally embraced being a meme

>>375684504
Learn to block. Her mix up isn't complicated

>>375684504
But she's the wealthiest character lorewise and has an honest playstyle with very few gimmicks

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>>375676276
It's hard to evaluate SFV Karin for me.

Sometimes she looks cute/pretty, other times she looks horrible or downright terrifying. I guess that's just SFV's artstyle.

>>375683037
This honest meme needs to go away
especially when you called one of the dirtiest characters in the game "honest"

>>375683037

>Karin
>Honest

S2 Ryu is the only honest character in the game.

Best part? He's garbage because of it.

>>375683273
When did the japs become so free?

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>>375684504
I'll have you know that Karin charges $10,000 per hour.

>>375685092
Good players are getting old and no new players because dying arcade scene.

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>>375685090
They couldn't even let his air tatsu cross-up

>>375683273
He better use those winnings for dental.

>>375685347
He became the most bog standard and predictable shoto in the history of shotos

>>375685192
autism

>>375685090
>hides behind fireballs and DP
>its called zoning brah
>honest

kek

>>375680895
3s was anime as fuck. What are you even talking about?

>>375684956
>>375685090
>Karin next to me
>Have to guess between blocking high, low, or throw
wtf this is so unfair...wtf am i supposed to do????

>>375685619

>Have to guess between blocking high

No, you don't.

Literally every character in the game can low or throw and there's an option that beats both.

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>>375685092

This

>>375686014
>Many top players in SF4 somehow can't reach SFV's skill ceiling
huh really makes me think

season 3 leaked roster
>sagat
>viper
>abel
>decapre
>oro
>ingrid

>>375685945

>Option that beats both

Not if you're contending with a meaty throw or low unless you have meter and you're a special case with a DP in which case good luck.

>>375677465
>>375680805
i want to lick their abs

>>375686245
>source; I crossed an owl with a bungee cord

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>>375686221

Here's the explanation.

>>375686485
stream it faggit

>>375686485
you know the rules

>>375686624
AND SO DO I

>>375685090
>wahh no free dp
>broken j.lk s.lk

>>375685428

---old-ass joke--->


(You)

>>375686750

Hows bronze/silver treating you?

>>375686575
>Hurp durp its random
k

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>>375685492
I mean, SF look is dated and still keeping that old late 80s and early 90s art style. Back when anime was more cartoony shit and less streamline like GG is doing. 3d is trying to keep the same old art style of past games but in 3d world.

>>375686860

It is, this has been known for a long time. Hitboxes are inconsistent, variable input delay with an average of 6f at best causes randomness. Non-stop 50/50s that are 100% determined by coin flips is random.

>>375686245
Sakura, Cody and Poison where the next most requested characters, when they held a poll right before announcing Akuma last year. One or all of them will make it before Oro,Sagat and Ingrid make it.

>>375687049
Them how do you explain the same players beating the odds to win consistently? Haitani has been consistently placing since the very start.

>>375687315
Haitani played SF4 Makoto, he lived for the dash and mash.

>>375687315

Random variables doesn't mean that the higher skilled player can't be consistent. It just means its significantly harder to be consistent because its an environment ones skill level can't control.

There's still skill involved in SFV but it's markedly lower than other SF iterations. Punk was fucking garbage at SFIV he was an absolute shitter SFV caters to his playstyle a lot and he capitalises on it. Fun fact, he also thinks SFV is a braindead garbage game.

>>375687421
How about Fuudo also being very consistent since the start?

>>375687525
>A 13 year old was garbage at SF4 he must be a fraud now that he's gitting peaking!
wew

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>>375676276
We're talking about season 1 right?

>>375687594

>Ignoring everything else in the post

Have fun anon.

>>375686271

Yes, if they are doing meaty throw or low you have an option that covers both, don't talk about a game you clearly don't know shit about.

>>375687995

>Still counting jump back OS

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>>375676276
That's not Alex.

;-;

>>375688113

No, it's not jump back OS at all, it's a basic as fuck teching technique that anybody who actually knows how to play this game does to beat shitters who don't know how to play and can't even recognize it's happening.

>>375688257

>Delayed tech

Not as viable as you're making it out to be

>>375688382

You are truly clueless as fuck.

>>375687525
How do you feel about option selects, did them lowering random-ness by giving a lot of character surefire ways to game past normally guessing situations improve the game or take away from it?

Is Karin considered cake given her age in SFV?

>>375688425

Clue me in then anon.

>>375688572

Here's the clue, delaying your tech is "viable". Unless you're a retard who thinks you should never under any circumstance tech.

What's the best sniff in SFV? Be honest.

>>375677872
Don't bother asking /v/ for opinions regarding tiers. They still think it's a fucking popularity thing.

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>>375688704

>That so tech that can be meaty thrown, neutral jumped, shimmed and light meatied

anon please

>>375676276
OHOHOHOHOHO~

>>375688924

>Delayed tech can be meaty thrown and light meatied

No, it can't, you're just a retard who doesn't know how to tech properly.

>Can be neutral jumped or shimmied

Yeah, just like a normal tech, believe it or not every defensive option has a counter, that's how the game works.

>Like fighting games for their depth, mechanics and mostly characters
>Playing Ryu's trial to get better at combos
>MFW the game expects me to go from crouching medium kick into a DP
>Can pull it off but it wasn't good enough and it gets blocked
I know IV is worse but combos are my least favorite fighting game mechanic ever. It's easily the most autistic part of learning the game.

>>375689079

>No, it can't, you're just a retard who doesn't know how to tech properly.

yes it can that's why those things exist anon.

>Yeah, just like a normal tech
>Normal tech
>being blown up by neutral jumps

Now you look like the shitter who doesn't play SFV

>>375689121
>Like fighting games for their depth
>Hate combos
>Can't c. MK into shoryuken
Sounds like you enjoy watching over playing really

They already tried games without any execution barriers and they died.
SF5 is the easiest it can get

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>>375689241

>SF5 is the easiest it can get
>mfw Rising Thunder with its 1 button specials and supers was more complex than SFV

>>375689241
I can do decent combos in Skullgirls and Marvel, not the full extent the game offers but decent.

>>375689234

You're in no position to call anybody a shitter when you don't understand how a delayed tech protects you from a meaty normal while also protecting you from a throw. You're in no position to call anybody a shitter when you think you have to guess the moment Karin is on top of you as to if she's going to do a fucking high move or not. You're in no position to call anybody a shitter when you can't even understand how a normal throw can be blown up by a neutral jump.

You have no concept of timing and no brain to actually learn it.

>>375689420

So you can do combos in games with heavy input buffers and larger cancel windows.

SF requires timed inputs.

>>375688172
i bodied you so hard the other day you garbage fuck

>>375689474
Working within fractions of a millisecond isn't fun.

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>>375688736
Chun

Finally gave up on this garbage game after constantly going from almost plat to almost super gold over and over for the last weeks. Hate how the only way to play this game is super aggressive and the meta revolves around explosive characters killing you before you get a chance to land your 50/50s on them

>>375689449

You righteous anon, you're making me laugh. Delayed tech protects from a meatied normal but gets blown up by meatied throws, that's why throw loops work and are so frequent in SFV. A light meaty gives the aggressor advantage because the win the block no matter what and most good characters can convert into a tick throw/meaty 50/50 from that.

I'm not the same person that said that about Karin.

Normal throw techs on wakeup recover faster than a neutral can punish them that's why characters like Necalli/Akuma/Karin etc can wake up normal throw then AA jab the neutral and dash under and get pressure.

>>375689743

SFV has a 2f input buffer making the hardest link 3f that's easy as fuck stop mashing your shit.

>>375689853

You have no idea how the tech window works either in that case. You can tech in this game, on wake-up, with a timing that will always 100% tech a throw or 100% block a meaty normal.

There is no if, there is no and, there is no but. This is an objective fact of the game.

This, however, does not mean it cannot be countered with various techniques. But this also does not making it an "unviable" technique and if you're expecting either a meaty normal or meaty throw this option successfully eliminates both.

>>375689397
>Implying
Half the cast is completely useless with terrible gimmicks and the three that weren't had very basic gameplans

Only Vlad had any sort of complexity with movement and combos as well

I put the game on the same level as SF5. Don't know what the fuck they're doing with SF5 either

>>375690152

You can't time a block and tech on a meaty throw it's a meaty throw you need to tech it immediately. I also didn't say it wasn't viable, I said it wasn't as viable as you were making it out to be.

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>>375686343
>ywn lick their belly buttons into an orgasm

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>>375689675
Hmm, please enlighten me on your CFN ID, stranger.

Or is this that meming nerd, MFDoom?

>>375690403

>You can't time a block and tech on a meaty throw it's a meaty throw you need to tech it immediately.

Alright, let me explain it to you. Make sure to put aside wanting to win an argument online against some anonymous guy, but you can only gain from learning this.

There are two relevant parts to a throw for what we're talking about. The problem is you think they are one. Let's say you've been knocked down and your opponent does their meaty throw so perfectly that you are waking up into the last active frame of the throw. That is the first part of the throw, you need to understand the second part.

The second part of the throw happens as soon as it connects, as soon as the throw connects their is another tech window, let's just say it's 5 frames because I can't remember how big it actually is. No matter how perfectly they meaty throw you there is always 5 frames where you can tech it after it has connected that CAN NOT be cycled through while you're on the ground.

If you hold back and time your tech so that it comes out during the later active frames of this window, you will tech it. If they did a meaty normal instead and you use this EXACT SAME TIMING you will already be in block stun from blocking that meaty and your tech is nullified by being in block stun. Because a meaty normal is active on the first frame of your wake-up.

Use this information to improve, instead of ignoring it because you want to win a retarded argument on the internet.

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EXCUSE ME?

>>375690906

It's 7f senpai + 6.5f input delay means it's not consistent and simple delays arent' a catch all. Fact is you have to wake up throw tech in that scenario because of input delay.

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>>375691093
>Ingridfag stopped coming after getting btfo
Feels good

>>375691156

The input delay doesn't matter at all because you're not fucking reacting to anything. Are you really this dense?

It's the same timing every wake-up, the delay is consistently the same. You're not reacting to anything. Input delay means literally nothing in this situation.

This is hilariously unbelievable. You really do just want to win some internet argument instead of actually learn.

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>>375691197
Capcom deciding to kill off any chance of their franchise having even the slightest bit of success for yet another year is none of my concern, all I can do is feel pity for them being absolutely retarded.

>>375691295

You are reacting to the situation prior to your opponents throw, you can't just catch all delay tech on wakeup. If you could no one would get throw looped.

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>>375691197
ive still seen him post

ingrid will definitely come in season 3 or 4 though. street fighter alpha 3 itself said so in her ending.

>>375676276
Laura's probably top 5 but I dunno about the best.

>>375691401

No, you're guessing what they're going to do based on what knocked you down. You are straight up guessing unless they do something really reactable or something that isn't real, like dashing in while being negative.

People get throw looped because they don't tech at all for the most part, and rightfully so. Getting thrown in this game does like 100 damage and if you're midscreen odds are you're not going to wake-up into pressure. Getting shimmied (which kills both delayed and normal tech) usually leads into like 300 or more damage and stun then you're put into the corner or just in general have to guess yet again.

You are misappropriating the reasons why good players do or don't do things.

>>375691401
People get throw looped because it's better to just take the throw

>>375691671
>>375691745

>better to take the throw

That's been my point the whole time that delayed tech isn't as viable as was initially implied. It's not a catch all, and in fact has numerous counters that make it dangerous to do.

>>375691745
>its better to take the throw
This is why I play Birdie, eat a boot or the second strongest command grab in the game, shit's fun

>>375692037

The risk/reward rules for command grabs are different though because they recover slowly enough to where neutral jump results in a huge punish combo.

>>375691968

Like I said earlier. If you think you should literally never ever tech than you're a dumbass. Delay tech is strong because it covers multiple options and more often than not you're going to be using it to tech over just hammer your tech as fast as you can because it covers more options.

EVERY SINGLE DEFENSIVE OPTION in this game has numerous counters that make it dangerous to do, even just blocking which is the safest form of defense. Invincible reversals cost a fucking bar and if you fuck up you're eating at least like 40% of your health meterless and then you're waking up into another guess that will either kill you or stun you. That does not stop even the best players in the world from using invincible reversals when they think they will work.

If you've honestly found some kind of magical defensive technique that can't be blown up hard please let me know.

>>375692296

>If you've honestly found some kind of magical defensive technique that can't be blown up hard please let me know.

I have not, I simply said that delayed tech wasn't a catch all. Somehow that spiralled into this.

>>375692387

I already said multiple times it gets blown up by shimmies and neutral jumps and you still continued to argue with me, telling me it doesn't stop meaties and it gets blown up by the things I already said it did.

Options that stop multiple things simultaneously will always be strong, that's one of the reasons people hated SF4, because you had to learn a bunch of retarded OS that caught like 10 things, that's why they're removing jump back throw OS from SFV, because they're trying to move away from that. But they can never ever remove OS like delayed tech simply because it's not possible to remove without completely reworking the game entirely.

>>375680805
>soulless Korean pigdog
>hottest

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>>375676276
Not the best character, and not even the most physically attractive.

Ryu and Fang should get some mild buffs

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>>375680895
>super Animu
>if Capcom did that it wouldn't fit SF
kek

>>375676276
What the fuck does her v skill even do and why the FUCK isn't it her counters from Alpha?

>>375694535
>Post worst char iterations
Point proven

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>>375683273
It's me or Punk looks like Sid?

>>375694852
Smug looks more like him if anything

>>375694762
The point was about if it fits SF or not, Street Fighter was and always will be animu.
The only thing that prevents Capcom from making a beautiful anime game like Xrd is talent.

>pad players winning tournaments
>SFV

nice job capcom, well made game

>>375695440

Pad players have been winning shit since SF4. Why does gaming peripheral make a game better or worse?

>>375695440
does a pad player winning make a game worse?

oh the humanity, a player doesnt need to spend 100 dollars on giant box to play fighting games

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>>375676276

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>tfw krad will never win EVO

>>375680805
MOMMY

>>375695808
This year is his year.

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>>375695440
It's a testament to how solid the controls are.

>>375696201
Whoops, pic unrelated in that post but I was going to say he'd be both overpowered and handsome in a game.

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>>375694535
The art style they have now is fine and fit the series. SF is a goofy ass looking series. I would hate if they tried to make it look like generic modern animu instead that classic 80's shounen anime style. Unless they go back to 2d, I'm okay with it currently. The hair needs work tho.