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>This game will unlock in approximately 1 day and 22 hours
Is your body ready yet, /v/? It's coming hard and fast.
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no, those games need to come slower since it's piling up in my backlog
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>>375634190
Oh boy, I can't wait to put on a school play again. I wonder what excitement will happen this time.

Not falling for this shit again.
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>>375634190
I'm still on Chapter 6 for SC
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Contemplating calling in sick to work.
Something I haven't done for a game since I was 18.
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>>375634345
Lolwat? The 3rd is nothing like FC. It's very dark from what I hear and is mostly a dungeon crawler
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>>375634190
Need to finish P5 first
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>>375634408
I'm off Wednesday and Thursday anyway so I'll be chilling

Probably gonna pick up some bud to enhance my gaming experience as well
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Why can't I buy it now?
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>>375634819
>dude weed LMAO
Nothing enhances trails except your hand on your dick you fucking braindead moron
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>>375634190
Is this gonna be going around the same map, from previous games, 3 more times and casting aero storm or whatever that wind magic was called in 99% fights?
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>>375635275
I believe much of the game takes place in some weird giant dungeon thing.

>>375635109
Who the fuck touches themselves while playing trails in the sky? Do you even know anything about the series?

Also there's literally nothing wrong with getting high when you play vidya
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>>375635449
>>375635109
I honestly thought he was talking about shitty Budweiser beer
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Any carryover bonuses from SC?
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Sure am glad I got a few days off.
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>>375635664
Nope, bud is another term for weed/marijuana
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How does Third compare to SC and FC?

I preferred FC over SC, Ruan being my favourite chapter from FC.
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>>375635792
I think so but I'm not sure. There might be because there's a 100% SC clear data file going around on the 3rd's steam forum
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>>375636656
We don't know yet.
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>>375636656
My understanding is that 3rd is heavy on lore dumps and combat. I haven't played it yet obviously but that seems to be the case from what I've seen.
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>>375634190
honestly, I had a bad experience with Trails in the Sky 1 and 2. I thought both of them sucked and I still beat them. I'll probably wait until a really good sale before I pick up the third game.

Also, Cold Steel was better.
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>>375636898
He should've fucked the sky bandit chick tbqh
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>>375636978
Josette is worst Sky as Elise is worst CS
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>>375637063
He still should've done it and then returned to Estelle.
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>>375636978
He only liked her when she seemed to be a modest girl.
The moment it was revealed she's just a shitty bandit without manners his interest dropped completely.
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>>375636898
Sky and CS both had their good points and bad points.
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>>375636978
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>>375635792
>Any carryover bonuses from SC?
Gladiator Belt if you have perfect rank from SC.

Most useful items in 3rd because of Kevin
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how do i make FC and SC stop updating like 3 times a day since last week on steam, they always download like 1 mb or something and the next day they are scheduled to update again
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>>375634190
I can see some hating the game for its RPG aspect.

Bad notes, plenty of dungeon crawlers, same dungeons as in FC/SC + some new ones, less story central narrative
Good notes: Access to every character in FC/SC + new ones, good boss and challenges, plenty of events that fully explore the background and past of some characters/events
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>>375636978
He should've fucked Kloe but that seems worse in hindsight because that would've meant that Ouroboros/Weissmann almost took over Liberl by proxy.
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>>375637956
Kloe is for Olivier, not Joshua
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>>375634190
Is this game actually good or is mediocre like the other two?
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>>375638208
If you thought fc and sc were mediocre then just leave
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>>375638208
No.
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>>375638208
Why bother paying attention to the rest of the games if you thought the first two were mediocre
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>>375634819
>not following Olivier's, Schera's and Zane's example and sipping on wine while playing
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>>375637682
Why'd they have to make so shit in combat despite making her usable only in the final chapter?
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>>375638906
Cause she's a noble who only struggled while being immensely helped by her brothers. She hasn't been through any shit compared to literally everyone else.
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>>375638814
I'm 30 years old, i grew out of forcing nasty alcohol down my throat a long time ago.

Pot tastes, smells, and feels better.
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>>375639046
Wine is only nasty if you drink cheap shit.
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>>375639046
>forcing nasty alcohol
>implying wine tastes nasty
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>>375638906
Because falcom hates her.

She's just as shit in 3rd too.
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>>375639167
>>375639160
All alcohol is nasty, even the fruity stuff.

It's fine for kids with something to prove. Me, I'll take a bowl of northern lights over alcohol any day
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>>375639046
thats what wine and cider are for anon

if you aren't insecure about your masculinity "girl" drinks are often pretty delicious too
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>>375639317
>All alcohol is nasty, even the fruity stuff.
>I don't like thing, therefore no one could possibly like thing
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>>375639476
t. Bootyblasted alcoholic
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>>375639317
>It's fine for kids with something to prove
I didn't know that the entirety of Italian and French cuisine was just a kid with something to prove
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>>375639285
Isn't there some support slot you can stick her in that she has one of the best bonuses for at the cost of effectively locking her out of your party.
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>>375639593
Yeah. That's pretty much her only real use.
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>>375639660
Do you have to drag her out for leveling sometimes if you do that?
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>>375639285
Which artist is this? They draw some nice stuff for the series.
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>>375639741
Every now and then.

>>375639779
Sorry anon. I forgot.
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>>375634190
my wallet is ready
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>>375634190
Can't wait to get Estelle's game
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>>375637837
You can't, because Sara is busy trying to get everything working.
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>>375640136
It's Kevin's game though.
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>>375640136
>Can't wait to get Estelle's game
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Is the guy on the Steam forums claiming 10 AM Pacific as the release time?
Is this taking into account DST?
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>>375642284
The steam store page has a countdown accurate to the hour
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>>375642367
Shit, I am blind. Last time I checked it only counted whole days.
Thanks.
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>>375642284
>>375642367
So is it 12 or 1pm est? Steam says approximately1 day and 20 hours but that could be either one
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>Zane is now Zin
This is gonna be hard to get over.
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>>375642367
Steam's countdown clock is not accurate.
It's counting down to when Steam considers its release date and nothing more.
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>>375642890
Are they not functionally the same thing? I would have thought that timer is linked to whatever database table is referenced by whatever unlocks it.
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>>375634190
Fuck work man. I still have to finish SC and both Cold Steel games.
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>>375642872
It's retroactive, too - they've patched it over FC/SC.
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>>375643045
No, Steam releases are controlled by the publisher and not Steam. It unlocks at XSeed's command in this case. Most try to keep it accurate with Steam but it's not as reliable as you might think, especially with smaller releases like this where Xseed is likely to be running around putting out fires and patching graphical bugs and typos up to the last minute.
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>>375643173
>>375642872
For what purpose?
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>>375643241
Zane was apparently a mistranslation in the first place. It may also tie into potential future calvard issues, who knows.

They're generally unifying translations now.
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>>375643230
Oh, I thought the dev uploaded the game to the Steam server, gave a time and then Steam released it at that time, I didn't realise there was a manual command the publisher had to fire off.
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>>375634969
Steam doesn't allow most niche games to have preorders because they prefer that people buy it all at once on release day to give the game a bump on the top seller list, maximizing the exposure the game gets.
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>>375637837
This is what they've been doing

http://steamcommunity.com/games/251290/announcements/detail/1298570064323397716
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Really looking forward to it. Cool scenarios, great music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfJruaNzMaE

>when Falcom forgot they're making Trails and not Ys
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>>375643321
It's a big advantage really, for the publishers/developers.
Steam is far more open than console platforms.
You can also patch your game whenever you feel like it.

When FC came out there were multiple patches every few days, sometimes more than one a day with minor fixes to problems people were finding as they went through.
I guess that's good. Not that it was so busted at first but that they were fixing it super fast.
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>>375634345
>He doesn't know about Renne.
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>>375643526
Thanks, thats actually pretty informative.
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>>375636898
>Cold Steel was better
LOL

But seriously, why do you think that? I get gameplay but everything else in my experience was poorer.
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>>375636656
>I preferred FC over SC, Ruan being my favourite chapter from FC.
You have wonderful taste.
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>>375636656
Ruan is peak comfy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeSqg3t0CKs
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>>375644838
It's a back and forth between Ruan and Zeiss' themes. I overall enjoyed Ruan the most in Liberl.
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>>375644838
Good to see I wasn't the only one who really found this theme relaxing as fuck.

Finished FC yesterday, what am I in for in SC? That ending made me want to slap the shit out of Estelle's boy.
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>>375645289
Slightly more serious in tone, but its not jarringly different than FC.

Make sure to talk to everyone when you arrive back in Rolent
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>>375645289
Retreading the same ground to be perfectly honest and dealing with the big bads of the entire series.

It has its moments though, but if you liked FC, chances are you'll like SC too. The comfortable setting is however taking the backseat.
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>>375645289
A lot of looking for the boy to slap the shit out of him.
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>>375645289
>Finished FC yesterday, what am I in for in SC?
You're going to meet lots of baddies and fight them.
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>>375645289
Estelles boy is CUUUUUUTE
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>>375645289
Some amazing moments that really follow through with the Estelle/Joshua groundwork laid in FC. If you don't tear up to the specific scenes halfway through the game and at the end, you're a soulless monster.
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>>375645831
The ending tore my heart in half, I fell for it.
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>>375645794
They found not just one occasion to make this man crossdress, BUT TWO. TWO LEGITIMATE TIMES FOR HIM TO DRESS AS A CHICK.

Does he do it again in SC?
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>>375645963
>Does he do it again in SC?
Nope. He's too edgy for that now.
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>>375645831
I only teared up at the reunion.
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>>375645794
Best girl
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>>375645289
First half being build up for the second half and some good fucking music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ok9bzDzaS0

Also chapter 4 hitting you hard with the feels.
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>>375645963
>>375646237
And one of them was a maid outfit which is objectively the best outfit for a qt trap.
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will it be released on gog?
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>>375646237
Seeing that dorky face of his become absolutely broken at the end of FC was fantastic.

Plus the angle change in the subsequent games really shows off a better side of his looks.
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>>375646373
Yes, but eventual updates might be slower to come to GOG than Steam, or so they said on the livestream.
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>>375646373
Yes, since it's DRM free like always.
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Started 1 a while ago and something felt weird. Is it me or did everything at the start just hit like a fucking brick and little to no good way to heal. Since both items and ingredients for food seem to cost more than what you get from enemies. But that was over a year ago and I might be remembering it wrong.
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>>375646569
>Is it me or did everything at the start just hit like a fucking brick and little to no good way to heal.
It's just you, you've played too many games that held your hand.
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>>375646569
Nah the game can be kinda rough early on if you aren't sure what you're doing.
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>>375646569
were you playing on hard/nightmare? those difficulties weren't balanced in the slightest, everything just had a multiplier
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>>375646569
The game doesn't do the best of jobs explaining the orbment system and its really vital to winning fights.
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>>375646569
Just like most old rpgs, the hardest part is the beginning when you don't have a full party or lots of spells.
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>>375642872
Oh, so that's why everyone was calling him Zin
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>>375647189
Was there any point in the orbment slot placements in Cold Steel other than not being able to stack more debuff/ailment on attacks?
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>>375647278
Nope. The lines were basically pointless
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>>375643241
http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/159288714430/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-series-localization
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>>375646896
>>375646931
Might try it again and see if I was just being stupid. Just remember getting past the first town after 2-3 hours of dialog and getting my ass handed to me by the new enemies.
>>375647141
Hard.
>>375647189
>>375647232
Alright guess I'll start it again and see if I can actually do better.

Any tips just in case I was just really fucking dumb?
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>>375647480
Theres no reason to start again, you're not punished for playing suboptimally and improving.
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>>375647540
Actually I have to since I recently had to format my computer.
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>>375647480
https://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/979866-the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky/faqs/70899

Just copy these to get started.
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>>375647480
>Any tips just in case I was just really fucking dumb?
Quartz positioning in your orbment is important. You can actually produce different arts by moving the same quartz onto different slots in the orbment sometimes, for example.

Read the bracer notebook to find the requirements for arts like Hell Gate and Aerial, then get them as early as humanly possible. They will make everything so much easier.
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>>375647189
I remember being kinda confused about it yeah, but they did make a big explanation on it. But until you get some hands on experience it's hard to get it.
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>>375638508
Because I heard Ao/Zero and 3rd were good.

Then again, I heard that as well for FC and SC and I didn't like either of them.
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>>375647769
I found the issue was it was done in one massive infodump which you end up glancing over, the basics aren't too hard but a lot the critical stuff is easy to miss.
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>>375638082
>tfw Kloe, Olivier, Estelle and Josette party is literally impossible
I just want the maximum amount of bantz and Olivier possible, fucking fascist falcom cunts.
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I still need to play SC but Persona 5 is holding me hostage. It makes such fucking terrible use of my time but at least I'm finally at the last palace.
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Yo whats going on here
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>>375645794
>Kloe in military dress
muh dick
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>>375648528
I put Persona 5 on the backburner while I plowed through CS2.
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>Hotheaded
>Fiercely loyal
>Will fight to the bitter end for you
>Can slip into super-dere mode in your presence

Reminder that she is the most perfect wife material of any girl in the series and Richard is retarded for not realizing that before getting his ass thrown in jail 5ever.
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>Silver Will, Overdosing Heavenly Bliss, Inevitable Struggle, Blue Destination

Rank them.
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>>375648748
Her crown princess outfit in SC is so good
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>>375648976
Going by the intro and some of the promotional material for the third game it looks like he gets out.
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>>375649127
That's her outfit in the 3rd isn't it? IIRC her and olivier are both in their royal clothes
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yall niqqas gay
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>>375649073
Inevitable Struggle > Silver Will > Overdosing Heavenly Bliss > Blue Destination
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>>375649451
Yep, but Kloe stays in hers for the last dungeon in SC. Looking forward to having Olivier in his now too
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>>375649209
He's let out before SC is over to aid the queen from Ouroboros

>>375649073
Inevitable Struggle = Overdosing Heavenly Bliss > Silver Will >>>> Blue Destination

I haven't played Cold Steel nor its sequel, so maybe Blue Destination will rank higher after I have played it, but it just seems like a less impressive Decisive Collision.

Also Azure Arbitrator blows all of them out of the water.
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>>375649073
Haven't played Ao and Zero to really comment.
>>375649774
Blue Destination is basically CS' Silver Will.
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>>375649774
Was that permanent? I presumed after the colony ship collapsed he went back to prison.
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I'll have plenty time to play it 3 weeks later.
Apparently it's hardest one in the trilogy? SC on hard is tons of fun and a bit of bullshit, I can't wait.
Just please tell me there's a better way to change quartz and equipment between characters not currently in your party.
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>>375648976

>willing to kill her own people with a tank because her colonel's plan that involved kidnapping, blackmail and subverting the legitimate rulers failed

Nah fuck you.
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>>375650294
And if Richard's plans had simply been to head the CIA division with no tricks she'd had followed him faithfully too. She is the perfect woman.
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>>375650294
The best part is that the plan was only like 1% of her intention, the other 99% were trying to get Colonel's dick for herself.
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>>375650525
The perfect woman is someone who doesn't challenge you in any way, holds on to your every word, and would be willing to burn the world if it helped you even slightly?
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>>375650690
Fuck yes?

>B-but it's better to have someone who will argue against you!

That's nice to think that but then you get into an actual relationship and that shit gets old fast.
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Nepgear in a Trails game when?
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I already lost my shit when they started doing VERY LAME PUNS later in game. I wonder what kind of insanity we'll get in the 3rd.
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>>375651132
Lewd chests are best
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>>375651287
>tfw someone posts your screenshot
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>>375636898
>cold steel was better
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>>375651045
Nigga, that's barely even a person. You're attracted to the human equivalent of a pet dog.
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>>375651560
>playing with ugly useless camp buttons on
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>>375651132
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>>375651719
Yeah, I didn't care too much about changing things on the first time through.
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>>375634190
I still need to play SC so nope
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I can understand that from a story standpoint, Tita having absolutely shit stats makes sense because she's a child, but from a game standpoint that was a really dumb decision.

Using her in FC or SC just felt like taking away a spot from someone who could be actually useful.
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>>375652654
>Brought her for that one bit of extra dialogue for Renne
I pulled it off but jesus
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>>375652654
I heard she's much better in the 3rd, though.
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>>375652746
she was mandatory for me when using agate or vs renne, just like i picked schera on my first run on SC because of her interactions with estelle
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>>375634345
more like

>OH, BOY, I CAN'T WAIT FOR ALL THIS CHILD RAPE.
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>tfw Thursday and Friday are off
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>>375653103
>Rean & Anelace won't ever be a thing
why the fuck do they even continue the series?
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>>375652967
The robot definitely helps, buts its apparently pretty expensive in terms of CP and action economy to use
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>>375652746

Why did they give all the enforcers unique dialogue but no camp like in SC's last dungeon?
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>>375634345
>school play
this is the one where you play as the heretic hunter and your new party members include a rape victim and a national traitor
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>>375653891
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>>375653889
I want to feed her sausage if you catch my drift.
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>>375653891
>>375653978
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>>375653978
Fucking hell
I think I just threw game-overs at them until the game lowered their damage to reasonable levels.

There's probably a trick to fighting them that I missed.
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>>375653891
>Didn't read and used an area attack
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>>375654054
she is a pure sister. do not lewd her.
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>>375636978
>having a crippled child
At least with Estelle the inevitable kid might get Cassius genes, even if Estelle herself is a useless bimbo.
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dear god, SC's 4th chapter was such a snoozefest, completely passable chapter that felt like pure filler.
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>>375654102

Hit multiple of them and they retaliate with that I think.
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>>375654054
>>375653889
The original art looks so much nicer.
>>375654102
They'll only use Earth Shaker if they get damaged. Otherwise they'll move like slugs and just use a single target lightning move.

They were also complete push overs in Erebonia, but I guess Liberl breeds better worms.
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>>375653891
>>375653978
This fight is basically a tutorial to the 3rd as far as i've heard
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>>375654102
Fight one at the time. They use Earth-Shaker whenever they don't have full HP. Also, it can't hit if your units are too close from the caster.
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>>375654197
The fog grounding the airship makes the entire thing feel like a diversion and the Rolent region feels too much like a tutorial area to support the chapter. The utter lack of intrigue and the slut being a fairly weak villain doesn't help either.
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will our boy Anton ever get laid?
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>>375652746
>The extra bit of dialogue was literally just Tita saying "ah".

Made me so fucking mad.
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>>375654590
Lucciola is easily the least interesting member of Ouroboros.
>>375654612
Anton will fuck the Grandmaster into her senses.
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>>375654612
He's too busying being the grandmaster of the ourobous for that
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>>375643467
>http://steamcommunity.com/games/251290/announcements/detail/1298570064323397716
I hope they don't fix thunder god kick
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>it's a ''the game forces Schera into my party'' episode

I'll give you 1k sepith to fuck off drunk whore
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>>375651646

Are you saying people don't love dogs? Now imagine a dog you can fuck but not go to jail for. Holy crap the phrasing on this I'm sorry.
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>>375654938
But Shera is pretty good. She's a decent jack of all trades.
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>>375652746
The one change i like from TC and foward, is that they drop the excuse of limiting you to bringing only 4 people along, and everyone is always together, even if only 4 fight and +2 serve as support.

The extra bit of text for certain stuff if you bring someone along is nice, but i'd rather keep it straight forward by just having everyone moving along together. Plus, it makes no sense to limit yourself to 4 people considering most of the shit they have to face.

>Oh, these guys just summoned a giant city in the sky that can turn off all orbment energy in the entire kingdom and edges of neighboring countries
>Let's just bring 4 of us to trek through this place!

I can appreciate the extra effort in making certain character combinations bring in new dialogue, but that was more of a pain in the ass than it was worth. Aside from maybe Loewe's extra dialogue depending on who you beat him with.
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>>375655112
>Aside from maybe Loewe's extra dialogue depending on who you beat him with.
My final team ended up being a rematch from the tournament in FC. Felt pretty right.
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>>375650101
Tell me i can beat that little shit up in 3rd
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>>375654938
>can't appreciate a lovely cake with an alcohol problem
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>>375655412
Nope.
>>375655515
But that's what Sara is for.
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>>375655515

She's vulgar, I don't like her. I'd rather marry Julia.
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>>375654775
Thunder god kick is broken? I imagine it's the multi hit effect it has if you hit more than one target with it?

Cause if that's not intended, then the craft just becomes absolute trash for the CP it requires.
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>>375655412
The fucker is hardly even constrained to the game. He'd probably start cheating if you'd have a real fight.
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>>375655703
Yup
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>>375651772
That's not 170, and due to Twitter's character limit I doubt most of them contain more than one joke.
Did Tom have to come up with the rest, then? Are they still taking suggestions?
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How to properly spell Agate? Ah-gah-té?
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>>375654612
Anton will have to get his shit together by CS3, right?
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>>375654227
>original art
>looks deep in thought about a difficult question
>new art
>completely blank face

why?
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>>375652654

Tita had a permanent spot in my party throughout all of SC, never regretted it once.

her smile is too precious, I want to see it all the time
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>>375655728
>the fuckers reaction to being observed through the door
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>>375655112
Actually wait, i meant to say from Zero and foward. TC still limits you to 4 people i think.

In Zero and forward everyone is always going along together, and only during fights does it drop down to 4.
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>>375656042
I was surprised at how naturally cute she was without it feeling too forced.
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>>375645289
You don't have any qualms against hitting an autistic boy?
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>>375655728
His entire fight in Ao is basically a giant trickester fest, with him showing to be pretty damn strong, turning your characters into go monsters who can do anything for 3 turns,
using super damaging arts, and summoning a giant piece of the Salt Pale as his S-Craft.

He doesn't need to cheat at all.
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>>375655112
>>Let's just bring 4 of us to trek through this place!
I thought the excuse they had for that (fixing the airship) was pretty good by JRPG mechanics-meddling-in-storytelling standards.

>>375655870
How to pronounce it? Judging by the way it's spelled in Japanese, I think it's pronounced Agat.
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>>375655883
Anton protagonist game when?

>Failing to hit on girls
>running from lvl 1 monsters
>Crying about your pathetic life

You know you'd play it anon.
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>>375655870
Agg-et
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>>375656042
>Wants to protect her smile
>Forces the child to fight with you putting her at risk

Agate's looking at you with scorn in his eyes.
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>>375656305
Most of them are not even well versed in fixing shit, Tita i can could see, but everyone else aside from Joshua i don't think had much knowledge of machinery.
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>>375656487
They needed brute strength to haul some of the heavier parts.
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>>375656487
While and after you've picked your party you can actually see how they're each contributing to fixing it.
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>>375656487
They were just for manual labour and strength in numbers.
Any warm body (except maybe Tita and Josette) could, for example, build the plank bridges across the steep tracks the ship made in the surface.
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>>375656296
Could he have beaten Loewe?
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>>375655870
You spell it A-G-A-T-E

You PRONOUNCE it "aget"
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>>375656827
Weren't some of the characters (Olivier) basically sent inside because they weren't doing a good enough job, too?
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>>375656981
Hard to say. Campenella seems to suffer from a severe case of "comes off as average but is clearly holding back" type of deal. He has many tricks up his sleeve and if the salt pale S-craft is indeed a thing he can do for real story wise, then he can basically kill anyone he wants, since the salt turns people and materials into salt, so insta kill.

Would depend on if he wants to kill the person or not, but considering he only takes on the role of observer, i don't see him purposely fighting all out until maybe the series Climax.
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>>375648976
Pic related. Kanone's best trait is the fact that she gets both Silver Will and Fate of the Fairies at some point.

>>375654197
I actually liked Ch4 if only for the end-of-chapter scene. Ch2 is the worst. Ch1 would be second place if not for Olivert stepping in to rescue it.
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STOP TALKING ABOUT MY BABY SUGAR!
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>>375657242
>holding back
Sounds right for a trails game.
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>>375657556
What seems to be the problem?
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>>375657703
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>>375657703
How old would is she going to be in Sen 3 again?
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>>375657858
Who cares?
More importantly, is Erika still fertile?
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>>375646302
Nice, Joshua. I also think you in women clothes resemble Karin.
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>>375657391
Walter was comically over the top edgy he made chapter 2 pretty fun and Zeiss is a fun area.
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>>375654197
Estelle's dream sequence at the end single handedly saves the chapter. And Kevin was pleasant, as always
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>>375655112
>tfw Kloe blushes when Loewe and Joshua hug
Fujo Princess
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>>375657993
He wasn't nearly as bad as "ALL OF ME!" dude.

He was clearly trying to scare off Tita by talking edgy shit, but otherwise he is a mildly edgy dude.
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>>375657993
Zeiss is best city after Ruan, but going through Kaldia tunnel a million times and trekking to Wolf Fortress several times really turned the chapter into a drag
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>>375658097
Mcburn crossed the territory of edgy and became fucking hilarious.
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>>375658026
The music playing in the dream sequence fucked me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCLsd0wsMU
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>>375657858
15-17 I think.
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>>375658279
>tfw Estelle plays Whereabouts of Light
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Objective region rating
Ruan>Zeiss>Grancel>Bose>Rolent
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>>375658530
Ruan > Zeiss > Bose > Rolent > Grancel

Rolent comes up in a higher note because I actually cared to talk to everyone in Rolent again.
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>>375657858
Sen 3 is 1206, right? Making the unrealistic assumption everyone ages two years from 1204 or four years from 1202, Tita would be 16, the same age Estelle and Joshua were in FC (although Joshua turns 17 by the end of SC.)

Incidentally, Renne (and Millium) would be 15, Fie would be 17, and Elliot will be 18. Pretty much everyone important in the Sky cast will be 20 or over.
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>>375658530
Agreed.
Catchiest, comfiest town theme bar none.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr1uU9iKRZk
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>Know about that dude's mother going around each region trying to find her son a wife since from FC
>Still at it on SC, but she gives up after no one took in her pleas of "please marry my son" requests
>Some sister side story where one wants to take the position of tea salesman from the other and is always making excuses as to why she is the better sister
>Find out she's going to Bose to learn how to be a merchant, other sister has a change of heart and doesn't want to be lonely
>Ops, ship is stranded in Rolent for a while
>Kitty settles in on the dude's store, and his mother doesn't even meedle sensing that things may end up ok on their own, and the dude doesn't want to give him thinking it's one of his mother schemes
>she ends up wanting to stay there to learn the merchant trade because she loves the place
>Cue chapter 8 after rescuing the miners and triggering the marriage scene
>She grabs the bouquet of flowers by complete luck of happening to pass by
>TFW

I'm such a fucking faggot for romance stories. Best NPC side story right there. I'm hoping i can see some more stuff with her and the dude in TC if possible.

Are the NPC stories just as good in cold steel? I haven't played it yet.
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>>375659009
>Are the NPC stories just as good in cold steel? I haven't played it yet.
Nothing as elaborate as that since it's still highschool kids but there's at least 4 couples waiting to be match-made.
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>>375658962
>tfw first step onto Gull Seaside Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqAzKJIr5aQ

I know it plays in other places, but I completely associate it with Ruan
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>>375658419
Pottery
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>>375659474
I always picture a flowing river and some birds chirping whenever this comes on.
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>>375659009
>Are the NPC stories just as good in cold steel?
There are some good ones.
CLosest example to yours is Mint shipping her Uncle with Instructor Mary
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>>375659646
I can't imagine how many impromptu sex occurs between Friedel and Loggins in their hiking adventure.
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>>375659009
>Are the NPC stories just as good in cold steel? I haven't played it yet.

They aren't as extensive, but still pleasant.
Kenneth and Annabelle a best NPC couple
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>>375659646
>Mint
second most bulliable cold steel character
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>>375659009
I really loved chapter 8. It has all the best sidequests.
The only negative is the lack of Olivier, but his reappearance more than makes up for it.
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Also speaking of the miners in chapter 8, and other hidden quests, does something happen, or get acknowledged if i don't trigger the hidden quest to save them, or rescue the students in the academy? Both of the events were some serious shit, and the miners were completely fucked if not for Estelle and Co joining the scene, and the students in the academy.

Does the game mention anything about them if you just proceed through without caring to do them? Kloe talks about how you helped the students when you see her again near the end of the chapter, but i'm not sure if you don't go investigate.

From what i can see the casualties would be:

>The entire miner staff + 1 Bracer dead as crab food
>One student mauled to death by knife wielding beasts and possibly one girl captured and taken away for ransom.
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>>375659783
I want some side dialog about Alan getting engaged to Bridget

>>375659876
This one was good too
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>>375634190
I've been waiting for this damn thing since last year

Life is bad-ish right now so I'll get to throw all my troubles away for a week or so
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>>375659009
>Are the NPC stories just as good in cold steel?
The NPCs in Cold Steel are better-written than the characters that are actually important. Pretty much everyone who goes through that game will find some NPC they really like. For me it was Kenneth, but I think Linde/Vivi are the most popular overall.

Some of these do involve romance.
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Is 1 & 2 good even?
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>>375660237
>It has all the best sidequests.
It makes you walk through that stupid tunnel twice. Fuck that.
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>>375660626
>Fighting the goddamn penguins in the dark
What a fucking hassle
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>Gilbert doing his sucker punch attack in SC
>finding out it lowers attack and defense substantially
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>>375660269
Good questions, unfortunately I have no idea.
Also, what would happen to Gilbert to make him become NEW Gilbert if not for UL-TRA-VI-O-LENCE and Campanella grilling him?
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>>375660714
>he asks Estelle and Joshua if they remember him
>they don't
>I can't for the life of me remember who he is either
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>>375654938
Her AT Advance moves are invaluable for the Physical Attackers in the game, Especially Agate (pretty much all his craft have huge delays).
It is also useful to get those spell to come at the crucial moments
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>>375660678
>the goddamn penguins
>in the dark
>with no arts
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>>375659009
This is why i love the Trails series. Falcom didn't -have- to go out of their way to give NPCs a character arc. Most people don't even bother talking to NPCs, anyway. But they do it because they're committed to the worldbuilding.
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>>375660574
You pretty much need to be a lorefag to enjoy Trails. The gameplay is alright but not amazing, and there's a lot of mandatory reading for events that unfold fairly slowly. It is for this reason that there's a fairly steep drop-off between people who bought the game and people who made it to the end of First Chapter's first chapter.

If you do end up liking it, though, you will probably become obsessed with it.
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>>375661264
>Either sacrifice arts or be perpetually blind
Have fun even trying equip any resists against the damn dance.
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>"Ready or not here I come!"
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>>375660961
>Ries shit talking Gilbert in the 3rd
muh dick
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>>375661478
>Falcom learned how people can just abuse Earth Wall and Kevin's Grail
TIME TO TURN UP THE HEAT
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>>375661478
I HOLD IN MY HAND THE CHALICE OF HEAVEN
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>>375652654
Don't worry, Tita is broken in 3rd
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>>375661478
>terminate TitsSc.exe
>load save
>load my party up with anti-death
>die again to petrify
>repeat with anti-petrify
fuck this cunt
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>>375655908
Because all the questions she had relating to her past and Kevin gets resolved so why keep it in the future game which is where that new art is from.
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>>375661698
>Not just spamming Kevin's S-craft right as the fight starts

Fuck those petrifying robots though.
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>Grancel after completing the final chapter in FC
>Everyone who you've met in the town is basically there and you can freely roam around and find them all enjoying the festival

This is the greatest thing ever. More games need to do this.
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>>375661478
GET AWAY GET THE FUCK AWAY RIGHT NOW
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>>375661889
>secret bp even after you saved the goddamn day
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>>375662086
I forgot about that one, what was it again?
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>>375661843
I was too busy bringing Tita along
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>>375661786
Just because her problems were solved doesn't mean her portrait needs to be eradicated of all emotion
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>Olivier develops a rivalry with Bleublanc over what true beauty really is
I fucking love Olivier. He's such a glorious faggot.
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>>375662184
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>>375662221
She barely shows any unless needed and her voice even matches it from Ao Evo. She's neutral most of the time. The most emotion you'll see is from The 3rd.
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>>375662240
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>>375652654
>get huge aoe cannon
>hit 5-6 enemies with one shot
>use super attack
She was really great in a lot of situations.
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>>375663672
Could be easily done just the same with AoE attacks, and with even more damage honestly.

Her blinding craft was pretty good though.
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>>375664057
AoE arts i meant.
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>>375653675
Anelace is gay though. She wants the Estelle.
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>>375664748
She's not gay though. She's cutesexual
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>>375662240
It's a truly beautiful relationship.
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>>375639779
https://twitter.com/aoi824725
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>>375665382
GO FIGHT
s3 when?
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>>375665382
That's a lot of cute shit.
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>>375645461
Since you revisit all of the towns and NPCs are mostly unaffected by the Society weirdness until later into chapters, it's still damn cozy.

>>375646103
Joshua's account of Hamel made me well up for a bit, probably because it adds impact to what Loewe described. The reunion is great at this also.

>>375656250
>Kamille, and Fa
>But if Fa were a Bright
Cassius would slap Noa's shit and still make him dinner.

>>375644668
I don't how you can hate the chapter when even its potentially worst part (Jenis) has good writing and goes by rather quick. Only the Final Chapter beats it, and I really like Zeiss.

>>375648383
That set-up could have made Blueblanc 2 a more challenging fight with a much funnier ending, perhaps enlightening if Mr. B talked with Josette about the Capuas' downfall.

>>375637874
At this rate I'm not too fond of FC/SC's best dungeons, but Cheat Engine makes everything better. Extra speed matters when playing these games (as long as you keep up).

>>375643520
Takeshita does only one kind of awesome battle music, for which I'm grateful. Otherwise 3rd's OST is full of variety.

>>375649073
Overdosing Heavenly Bliss, then Silver Will/Inevitable Struggle (latter has better arranges so far), and then Blue Destination's worse than something like Gravestone Struck by Lightning or even Challenger Invited Evo.

>>375657242
We'll probably have a decisive battle with The Fool towards the end, and it'll be weird if Campanella's not actually a Zemurian Elder God or abomination of sorts.

>>375655786
She tweeted later about getting around 300 submissions, not just on Twitter.

>>375656132
That sounds awfully nice given Zero/Ao dumps 80% of all NPC text onto you basically from the start, making it a tough start and long-ass game if you want to read everyone.

>>375654254
I hope so...not that I want fights like Abyss Worms the whole time.

>>375656130
Can't wait to watch that Door again.

>>375656310
You'd play as Ricky though...
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>>375664748
That was a misunderstanding.

Maybelle and Lila are the yuri bait anyways.
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>>375666706
It seemed pretty straightforward to me.
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>>375661478
Stop Renneposting
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>>375658530
Grancel (gets enough cooler in SC when you can visit the harbor) > Ruan (some of the best dialogue in FC/SC) > Zeiss (fun city, but also visiting Limestone Cave early for challenge) > Bose (fucking Ravennue, Kingfisher Inn, and Whemler) > Rolent (still great, but it's limited compared to other regions)

>>375660269
I honestly wonder if Ridge not surviving, even when you save the miners, would have enriched Chapter 8 with a sometimes-your-best-isn't-good-enough way. Maybe the game's ending would have expanded to include a funeral, lol.

>>375661479
>>375660889
Blorf King really is our favorite trashcan. Maybe he could have become stronk just as was planned, but the guy's basically reliant on a jaeger super-suit.
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>>375667767
Cute Nun
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>>375661478
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>>375661478
>so~re!
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>>375668134
>Josette's portrait includes her delivery hat
Cute!
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>>375662503
>the PSP version
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>>375667715
Man that would have sucked. Ridge was the only bracer Rolent had at the moment, so Schera probably would have had to stay behind because of that shit.

Also it would be sad because I actually care about NPCs in this game, and Ridge worked hard.
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>>375668891
Yeah, they'd have to write another Bracer into the plot at that point if Ridge didn't make it. So I'm okay with how they handled it, but I think SC's ending could have developed a bit longer. FC had a more thorough and interesting conclusion.
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>>375667715
Trails isn't the type of franchise to kill people off like that and I'm perfectly happy it staying that way.
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>>375669236
>Trails isn't the type of franchise to kill people off like that
Except for The market manager, Loewe, and Crow off the top of my head.
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>>375668134
The hell is that body bonus? The one right next to 10% EP recovery.
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>>375665775
Steel better show up for CS3, I could handle her absence in 2 since she would be too busy in Crossbell, but there's no excuse anymore.
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WTF I HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS COMING OUT!
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>>375669442
They've teased her previously, and she was indeed busy with Crossbell/just done with it, so now it's her time to show up alongside turbo autism.
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>>375669391
The market manager I never even realized. That's a damn tragedy.

The other two are perfectly in line with the story though. Neither of their deaths were needless or outright cruel.
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>>375669391
Well, I don't like the kill-them-all business in some other games too, but it sometimes feels like the stakes get too low. Ridge holding out like that is awesome, but the writers could have delivered a different theme (fitting the bitter struggle of Chapter 8) just as well.

Did the Royal Army troop defending Grancel's gate survive in Chapter 8?
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>>375669516
Literally zero marketing tend to do this kind of thing. Hopefully the word of mouth will ensure good sales
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>>375669419
Vanish
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>>375669391
They also killed the commander of Garrelia Fortress and Vulcan & Gideon
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>>375669761
They're doing more tweets than usual for it, plus a countdown and preview stream. But yeah, word of mouth's the most they're going to do for 3rd.

>>375669913
You see a bunch of soldiers dead right at the start of Cold Steel at Garrelia for that matter.
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>>375670081
You already posted it
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>>375670081
Rean x Orbal Bike.
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>>375670081
Maybelle and Lila of course

Pic related also
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>>375670081
Kloe and Olivier

This seriously needs to become a thing once the big bads are finally purged from Erebonia to mark the beginning of a new era of peace and camaraderie between the two nations.
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>>375670290
They have write Lechter into being the bigger rusemaster
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What makes these games so enjoyable? Some of the chapters genuinely suck but its as if I'm just there to enjoy the stay, and thats all I need.
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>>375670081
Richard and Amalthea. Richard's a cool guy and I loved how far Amalthea was willing to go for him. They need to settle down.

That said, the one you posted is fucking grand. I hope one day after the get past their fuckbuddy phases (if that's even possible) Olivier just comes straight out and marries her. Erebonian royalty marrying a foreign gypsy bracer girl would cause so much butthurt to high class Erebonians and it's something Olivier would totally do.

They probably wouldn't even take the marriage seriously and nothing would change, just do it to piss everyone else off.

I love Tita and Agate too.

God damn I love the romance in Trails. It's one of the reasons I'm so upset with Cold Steel.
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>>375670081
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Can I play this 3rd series on its own? Will I miss any plot points?

And does it play like our traditional JRPG's like exploring towns and jungles and shit?
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>>375670516
It's a terrible idea to start on the 3rd Chapter of an ongoing series. Seriously, start from the beginning. Your enjoyment for these games will greatly increase.
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>>375670218
t. Sean Chiplock
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>>375670081
Estelle x Kloe
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>>375670516
Well the story pretty much wraps up in SC, but I think playing 3rd without FC and SC will be an incomplete experience. Part of me wants to tell you to get it anyways since the game will need all the sales it can get, but I can't really recommend it with a good conscience.
There's bound to be a good deal for the first two games though around the release, get those first.
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>>375669391
I'm not too sure but didn't Red Constellation's assault on Crossbell result in a bunch civilian casualties and even one important character death?
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>>375670516
While oyu can play teh arcs out of order (you will just get events spoiled) it's not advised you play games in an arc out of order. There are three arcs right now. Sky (first chapter, second chapter and The Third) Crossbell games (not released in English) and Cold Steel (Cold Steel 1 and 2, 3 is coming out this year in Japan)
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>>375670516
You'll miss about 90% of the references and sidecontent. but the main story alone should be understandable (would NOT recommend though). Also have fun exploring literal hell for the most of the game.
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That concert was genuinely awful but SC's ending was still great to hear, especially when I was fresh off that ride. Olivier being the first to sing along felt nice.
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>>375670081
Towa x Trash Can
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>>375670919
Why do people hate Towa again? Never understood this meme
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>>375671032
She's pretty much the 2nd Alisa in how much she's railroaded onto Rean's ass.

Plus a bit too perfect.
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>>375671032
Because she's in Tokyo Xanadu
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>>375671032
Because she's a useless mary sue who does nothing but gets emphasized all the time because she's Falcom's lightning, also she's waifubait. I don't mind waifubait in and of itself, but that's pretty much her only purpose for existence.
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>>375670081
If only Schera was anywhere near as interesting as Olivier.
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>>375671106
Altina seems to have replaced them judging by the large amounts of art work and screenshots we have of those two always together.
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>>375634190
>tfw not done with sc and no hope of finishing in that time
>tfw don't even care and excited about Big Daddy Kevin's game
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>>375671032
Shitty, horribly-written Mary Sue that's a complete waste of resources that exists solely as waifubait and serves literally no purpose and gets shoehorned into everything possible because she's Kondo's waifu.
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>>375671276
Altina seems to be Osborne's partner of choice for Rean, even if anybody else that's named in the Intelligence Division like Millium could back him up.

Probably setting up her own arc for development, which I'm okay with. Altina is good as long as she's wearing matching colors with Instructor Rean. Towa is back in the new academy anyway as a teacher.
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>>375671471
Wasn't there an entire meme about her being the grandmaster or something? It was a ways back i think.
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>>375670418
Cold Steel had cutie NPC stories that could be insinuated to be romantic at least.
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>>375671568
That was started by Towafags, nobody introduced in CS can be the Grandmaster according to Falcom.
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>>375671568
My favorite meme is Claire being Reans mother. Yeah figure that one out.
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>>375671628
>nobody introduced in CS can be the grandmaster according to Falcom

Considering they apparently also stated that the grandmaster has already been shown, this just makes me more fearful for a possible character giving us the good old heart breaking betrayal.

>Inb4 it's really Dorothy
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>>375671841
>It's Maybelle
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>>375669913
Actually there's a bit before the Infernal Castle if you go to Garrelia Proving Grounds that shows him having survived with no real recollection of what happens
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>>375671841
It's going to be one of these:

Aidios
Campanella
Anton
Ein
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>>375671841
>a possible character giving us the good old heart breaking betrayal.
2bh I don't see how there's really any other way for this thing to go down.

If we already met the grandmaster, then it has to be someone we trust, right?
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>>375671784
Isn't Claire fucking 21 or something

How could a 5-year-old give birth
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>>375670401
comfy world building and character writing.
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>>375671981
The grandmaster is a woman, isn't she? It has to be a female character I think
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>>375671981
Has to be a girl
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>>375671841
>>375671882
Are all the jokes about the grandmaster are girls.
Do we actually know the grandmaster is a girl, or is it just coincidence?

Its Queen Alicia
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watch the grandmaster be some irrelevant NPC
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>>375671925
This also led to a big theory on what could be the true goal of the Phantasmal Blaze plan because of that scene. Overall it's a big revelation since it calls into question where the hell does that attack send things it hits if it's not erased.
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>>375672003
>It's the wife of the old guy who likes fishing in Bose.
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>>375671981
>not Lena
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>>375672058
>>375672067
The Grandmaster communicates with the Anguis through a female voice. That could be a misdirection. I refuse to rule out Anton or Campanella because of that, but the other two are a lot more likely.
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>>375672069
I think some Drama CD showed the grandmaster speaking, or maybe it was the scene at the end of TC's evo? Not sure, which apparently showed the grandmaster having a female voice.

Of course, that could just be a bait and switch.
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>>375672173
Fuck me, what if it was.
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>>375670792
>>375670783
>>375670726
>>375670659
I will play the previous titles then. Are they all available on Steam?
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It's Dorothy. The Grandmaster is Dorothy. That's why her camera still worked during the mass orbal shutdown.
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>>375672035
Ask those idiots who unironically think it's true. Apparently biology works different for them.
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TFW the grandmaster is Joshua's dead sister
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>>375672270
Loewe is doing Demon Sword spins in his grave
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>>375672121
That'd be lame. It has to be someone important, or at least important enough that they have a portrait.
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>>375672246
What, you can't look that up yourself, you lazy piece of shit?
They are
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>>375672254
Her camera is analog.
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>>375672246
Yes, or even GoG if that's your thing.
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>>375672219
>>375672232
I think the female voice is also the reason why everyone thinks Grandmaster = Aidios.

Which considering the whole lore of the treasures/sept-terrions being a gift from the goddess, it makes you think that perhaps she wants it all back, and maybe lost most of their power.
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>>375670418
>God damn I love the romance in Trails. It's one of the reasons I'm so upset with Cold Steel.
Especially when Alisa is the supposed main girl. I still can't find her all that interesting as a romantic partner or as a character in general. I think nearly any other available girl aside from Millium could provide interesting interactions.
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>>375672270
Its Agate's dead sister
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>>375672371
>>375672404
Gracias, friendo.
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>>375672478
This is maybe the best reveal they could do.

I don't see how some innocuous NPC character turning out to be her could make sense.
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>>375672553
Have fun.
And remember; its an RPG. The combat is nice, but you mainly play this for the writing and the world building. I think most people end up disliking these games because they go in with false expectations.
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>>375671981
God please don't let it be Aidios. I'm so tired of a god or the church being the bad guy.
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Playing FC right now and I like it with my main complaint being how annoying Estelle is
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>>375672816
The Grandmaster isn't a bad guy.
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>>375672486
>I think nearly any other available girl aside from Millium could provide interesting interactions.
How could Millium possibly be less interesting than Laura?
Don't get me wrong, I like tall ponytailed sword autists as much as the next guy, but there is literally nothing to Laura's character besides "muh swords" and "muh Lance Maiden".
At least Millium develops in some respect.
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>>375672817
She's just really Genki, you'll see more sides to her as it goes along.
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>>375672478
>tfw after all this time and all these games, the ultimate end result of the entire Trails storyline is one in which the heroes have to go and destroy god
Not gonna lie, that would be pretty hilarious given how prevalent that kind of theme is in other JRPGs.
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>>375654135
>Lined up thunder god kick to kill most of them at once
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>>375672840
[Citation needed]

The whole "Guiding the souls of the world" shit, just sounds like someone trying to start an Evangelion.
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>>375670418
Was it ever confirmed they were fuck buddies besides a few hints here and there?
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>>375672817
Fairly common complaint. I wouldn't worry about it, though. One of the greatest joys of the Trails in the Sky games is watching Estelle develop into a reliable bracer and leader.
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>>375672995
Literally the only things we know about her are that she wants to collect all the Sept-Terrions (we don't know the reason why and it could be the same as the church) and that she's compassionate and benevolent.
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>>375672901
I'm on chapter 3. The other characters are carrying the game for me right now
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>>375672882
I guess I just keep seeing her as a kid. Even in her bonding events, it feels like a brother-sister relationship she has with Rean instead of a romantic one.

On that note, Laura only works for me because Rean is nearly as much of a sword autist as her by simply being part of the 8 leaves school and that she was never not in the party along with these two.
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>>375673006
The only real hint at it is that she's utterly devoted to his coup attemp, but mostly because its HIS plan, not the politics or rhetoric behind it.

I hope they fucked after SC
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>mfw this starts playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFv-06tnjRw
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>>375673032
>One of the greatest joys of the Trails in the Sky games is watching Estelle develop into a reliable bracer and leader.
Estelle is trash.
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>That Claire dress in the Roer nighttime meeting

I have fallen for the charm of an older woman, can you waifu her in CS2?
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>>375673187
I was talking about Schera and Olivier.
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>>375673138
>compassionate and benevolent

>Makes her grunts do all the dirty work
>Stages plans that put a lot of innocents at risk
>Allows her people to do as they please, meaning they can be as scummy as they wish while using Ouroboros resources

Yeah, nah.
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>>375673231
Fuck off, Josette.
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>>375673273
>projecting flaws of her subordinates on her when her unbreakable law is that everyone should have free will and should only follow her if they choose to
OK
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>>375673249
No, you can go for Sara though. All you get from Claire in CS2 is a hug and an onsen scene

I hope the option is available in 3 though.
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>>375672478
"god is evil" is old and tired, but the concept of a god drained of most of his power having second thoughts about lending his powers to humans and personally scheming toward their retrieval sounds like an interesting concept
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>>375673249
Sort of, not really though.
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>>375673167
He's also met and gotten approval from Laura's dad. I don't think he's met anyone else's dad. Unless you count those two guys to be Fie's gay dads.
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>>375673354
It's still giving them the resources to do all of that shit, plus considering Campanella only joins as observer when a treasure is most likely involved, it means she probably has an idea of what's going to happen, and honestly, most of the time the plans are extremely dangerous for everyone involved, or close enough to the mess.
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>>375673152
SC is where she really shines, and the end of FC I guess.
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who here has played babby's first ys aka Nayuta no Kiseki?
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>>375673423
We haven't met the leader of Zephyr yet so not so much her two gay dads but two really close uncles.
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>>375673152
Estelle is just a waifu character. No one actually thinks she's good
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>>375673212
If Dorothy really is the Grandmaster, do you think they planned that from FC onwards, or if they decided on it later?
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>>375673371
What if the disaster that brought down all of the ancient civilization the goddess tried to aid with her gifts, was a result of people draining her of all her power or something, and it was retaliation for it?

Maybe, the treasures were all taken instead of received even. Someone found a way to tap into her power and drained her of it, placing it in treasures. And now she wants to restore her own power.
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>>375673458
>It's still giving them the resources to do all of that shit
Yes and? Her whole point is that she refuses to force people to follow her. Forcing them to do things her way goes against that.
> most of the time the plans are extremely dangerous for everyone involved, or close enough to the mess.
Yet that pales in comparison to the danger involves if someone else gets the treasures (assuming the Grandmaster's plan is ultimately a benevolent one, she very well could be a bad guy but it seems doubtful from what's been presented of her). Imagine what would happen if someone like Osborne gained control of the Sept-Terrions. I'd say the plans aren't dangerous enough considering they're almost letting that happen.
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>>375673423
Alisa's dad is dead but I guess her grandfather already approves. Not like her mother gives a shit about anyone else though.
>>375673579
I don't find her amazing but she's clearly the better protagonist compared to Rean when it comes to writing. Rean is un-fucking-paralleled in usability as an MC.
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>>375673579
Well excuse you.
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>>375673579
t. Never played SC
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>>375673368
Good enough

>>375673485
Yes, played it for while in PSPSSP or whatever it is called. GOAT OST as expected of the masters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iFo_pMuw2o
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>>375673610
My personal speculation is that she just wants the neutralize the treasures because she realizes that interfering with humans like that was a mistake, and that the best way to let them live is to give them freedom to live on their own terms without interference by outside powers.

My guess is her ultimate goal is to completely neutralize not only the Sept-Terrions, but also all forms of "supernatural" power, including sorcery, demons, artifacts of all kinds, etc. so that humans only have to worry about human shit and not some cultists raping children or salt pillars or other crazy shit.
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>>375673579
t. only played CS
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>The youngest person to reach A-rank in the Bracers
Just how much shit has she seen?
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>>375673940
Either way, she's gotta get her old power back, especially if that all was stolen from her. Ouroboros would then disband...or would the Anguis usurp her at the last minute so as to wield the Sept-Terrions?

Chances of her being the GM are high considering how many Falcom employees love Legend of Heroes IV: A Tear of Vermilion's story (which concerns a cult trying to revive a dark god).
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>>375674002
Well, she saw her whole country get turned into salt.
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>>375674002
Valid age for joining Bracers is 16, and Estelle and Joshua both joined at that age, and by the end of SC she gets Rank A.

Did she boost herself to Rank A even faster or then?
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>>375673583
100% later. I wouldn't be surprised if they only decided on it during the CS trilogy development.
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>>375673579
Estelle is probably my favourite video game protagonist.

The list of Trails girls I would want to waifu over her would be pretty long though
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>>375674113
She fucked a bunch of old men to raise through the ranks higher.
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>>375674113
Estelle is canonically only a B Rank, apparently.
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>>375674113
>Rank A
Estelle is B rank. Her A rank in SC is non canon
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>>375673579
She's easily the best female JRPG protagonist ever.
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>>375674113
Estelle is not canonically rank A at the end of SC. That's just a gameplay mechanic. I think she's C or B or something
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>>375674113
Estelle is high C at the end of SC and only reaches B after Zero.
>>375674348
She's easily one of the best JRPG protagonists ever period.
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>>375674102
Only part of it got salted, but the rest turned into a failed state run by jaegers. Discussed more in a door in 3rd.
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>>375674295
Ill fucking fight you on her honour, you take that back
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Everyone knows the most disappointing choice of the grand masters identity is Estelle's mother
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>>375674436
>but the rest turned into a failed state run by jaegers
Yeah but have you seen how jaegers act when they lose? the whole country might as well be salt.
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>>375674447
>literally loves old men cock despite other people shitposting other waifus for le pleasing old men
>literally DELETE THIS
You're gonna have to deal with the fact that Sara was probably a cum dumpster for old men at 15 years old.
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>>375673690
Rean has the best CP farming ever. You put Gladiator Items on him and you can S-Craft almost every turn on top of Overdrive.
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Is the combat in third better? Or cold steel? Christ, the first 2 games had abysmal combat and monster sprites. The game wasn't even older for their time and yet it is like they used snes tier rpg mechanics
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>>375674447
Not him, but it's probably true. I doubt she got that high without sleeping with people, she's nowhere near the same level as other A ranks.
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>>375674418
>She's easily one of the best JRPG protagonists ever period.
Well, that too.
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>>375674627
>Or Cold Steel
No way that can happen since Cold Steel's combat system is still the latest in the series.
>>375674418
>She's easily one of the best JRPG protagonists ever period.
I honestly can't disagree nor try to even find another candidate.
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>>375674627
In the 3rd yes, in Cold Steel no, but it's only bad in CS because balance was thrown out the window and they removed the best mechanics (combo crafts, sepith count, support characters).
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>>375673579
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>>375674301
>>375674002
This feels like one of those "OH YEAH WELL THIS CHARACTER DID IT EVEN BETTER" type things.
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>>375674627
After playing both TitS and both CS games, I can say Cold Steel improved the combat tenfold. It felt satisfying for a turn-based game.
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>>375674627
Cold Steel combat is much more fun. It's faster and more engaging
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>>375674301
>>375674334
>>375674361
>>375674418
Well that's lame. With the whole carry over thing, i thought they'd take into account the fact some people reached rank A and make it canon.

Or is there some excuse in TC as to why she's C?

Also speaking of ranks. That Strega B1 reward from Rank B is fucking shit, it's literally just defense + Move, like who thought that was acceptable?
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>SC 5th chapter
>Tita and Estelle keep begging Agate to show them his little sister
>mfw I already know what will happen and I'm already crying in anticipation
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>>375674627
>and yet it is like they used snes tier rpg mechanics
Come on dude

When you say stuff like this it makes you sound like an underage who never played RPGs on the SNES
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>>375674593
...Oh Aidios, not again. What if we meet her in North Ambria in Sen III and learn she actually was used goods because the country fell to shit? Kondo's said this game marks a change in tone, so who knows.

>>375674627
You mean the sprite image quality or the designs? I wish we had proper HD models for the monsters too, not just cast/NPCs.

>>375674821
>Or is there some excuse in TC as to why she's C?
Not in 3rd, but Bracer Guild politics might be why. There could be some folks jealous of Cassius and willing to keep Estelle and Joshua a rank down. We could use a game set in Leman at some point.
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>>375674447
You just know she tried to fuck Laura's dad when the kids were busy with a mission.
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>tfw don't want the thread to end
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>>375675016
>a change in tone

Are we actually getting serious now?
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>>375674928
Estelle clearly catches on near the start of that chapter, but doesnt quite know what to say.

Its really just qt Tita that doesnt understand what Agates putting down.
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>>375674821
Seniority is extremely important for your Bracer rank, being elevated from Junior Bracer to C rank in the course of just a few months is unprecedented and on top of that hitting B rank only a few months after that is unprecedented either. IIRC Kurt is one of the strongest and most accomplished Bracers and it took him literal years to get from B rank to A rank and Estelle and Joshua are already close to A rank after being Bracers for just a year or two.

Later games do acknowledge them though; it's noted that in their brief time in Crossbell, Estelle and Joshua did several years' worth of requests while also investigating Renne's whereabouts.
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>>375675094
Probably not.
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>>375674928
I'm still surprised at how much I ended up liking Agate after finishing SC. I remember thinking he was one of the worst characters for most of FC.
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>>375675016
>Change in tone
Are you fucking saying

THAT WE'RE DONE HOLDING BACK?
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>>375675180
I felt the same, couldn't give a shit about his jerk-ass but SC made him extremely likable.

Wish I could say the same for Zin or Schera, they're still pretty average to me.
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>>375675094
>Actually getting serious?

What? Is child prostitution and brainwashing, genocide for political excuses for war, attempt rape, actual rape, an entire town getting invaded by mercs and killing civilians and pure carnage, not enough for you?
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>>375675062
Kiseki threads are the best part of /v/.
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>>375674928
5th chapter was great. I love Agate and Tita.
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>>375675186
Calling it right now

Rean will turn against Osborne after realizing he's been duping the Erebonian people with lies and propaganda and will attempt to remove him from power

Osborne will kill Rean but the truth about this will get out and turn the public against him forcing him to flee Erebonia, hence Erebonia losing control of Crossbell as his replacement attempts to demilitarize the nation.

The "darker tone" will probably be because the game ends on a sour note of Rean dying.
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>>375673231
t. Captain Amalthea
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>>375675394
I swear to Aidios if Falcom pulls a bait-and-switch on who the protagonist is, like Metal Gear Solid 2. Rean is the Man with a Plan. Let us play as him for the whole game. Don't pull a Raiden, Falcom.
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So is Ordine just sitting around again gathering dust? I'm sure Osborne is scouring the country to find a new Awakener.
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>>375675379
I only click on /v/ for these desu.
Usually very comfy, much like the games.
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>>375675491
I'm saying that will be the ending (Rean dying).

However you should expect to control Lloyd and co. again at least once throughout the game, if not more, since the game is partly set in Crossbell.
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>>375673579
t. colonel richard
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>>375675491
It's strange to admit that I honestly want to keep playing as Rean.
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>>375675394
Yeah nah, that's not going to happen.
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>>375650101
What is the context of this image?
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>>375675597
Whether or not you like Rean as a character, you have to admit the players are invested in him. It's Coldsteel 3, not a whole new series. Kevin takes over in The Third, but at least he was introduced in SC. Coldsteel 3 will have brand new characters and to unceremoniously hand the reins (no pun intended) of protagonist to a new character while Rean is dead in a gutter would really suck.
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>>375675742
Estelle and Joshua escaping the glorious
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>>375675515
Where will Osborne find boipucci as tight as Crow's
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>>375675597
I don't. I want him out of the damned picture. Falcom had 80 fucking hours to make him an interesting protagonist, but instead turned him into a cliche light novel MC with a giant robot and katana for extra chuuni points. Fuck his stupid bitchass - and not in the sexual way, either.
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>>375674939
Just because you played the most popular snes well thought rpgs from square and nintendo, it doesn't mean the rest didn't have simplistic chore combat(breath of fire 1 and 2 come to mind)

My problem with trails is that you end up spamming the one same skills with monsters never fighting back. And then when you try to up the difficulty, you have them taking 5 turns in a row first thing with nothing you can do. The game got some interested concepts but looks to me they just didn't care to give any polish whatsoever.
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>>375675758
While it's not the most effective means of creating a character, his circumstances, instead of his character, warrant a lot of interest in how his future plays out. His new color scheme is also pretty appealing.
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>>375676092
>it's too hard
Maybe you should try getting good.
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>>375675568
Kiseki/Trails threads got a lot better now that 3rd's about to release.

>>375675742
Campanella gladly letting the game's dynamic duo escape even though he probably could destroy both right at that moment.
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Why are Estelle's combat skills so shitty? I like her a character but she gets outclassed by Joshua, Schera, pretty much everyone else. Her weak-ass spin attack was useless for the most part.
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>>375675016
Both design and sprites. Most monsters felt like mechanical or biological garbage trash fused together. Granted some of the endgame areas had cool robot like monsters but then they suffered from sprites/animation issues.

At first i thought it was on purpose because monsters seemed to not exist in the world in large quantities, and they just happened to be abominations roaming around.
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>>375676429
The only one worse than her is Tita, and yeah her stats are pretty shit.

They kinda fix that in Zero no kiseki with Lloyd, since he is an all rounder character like her, but he can actually deal damage since his stats are not abysmal, and by cold steel, the main character is a tad broken.
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I'm posting this again.
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>>375676246
To be fair, it is generally agreed that the hard modes from the first chapter were largely untested on several points. Unless by gitting gud, you mean spending 5 hours grinding.
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>>375676471
There's plenty of less crazy, more Earth-like animal monsters roaming around though. SC just has a larger number of mechanized and/or eldritch things for you to fight, and I still think the artists did a great job on making them all distinct (and increasingly weird but not without reasons). And I didn't see any broken animations, let alone more than a few awkward ones.
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>>375676702
Those weird floating octopus things with the mouths on top of their domes were fucking weird as shit.

Those dinosaur designs in the dragon's cave was pretty fucking alright. Those bigass scorpions too.
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>>375676649
Sales percentage?
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>>375676092
Dude. Come on now stop digging.

Every SNES RPG had combat mechanics which were basic as fuck. Far more basic than trails in the sky. Even final fantasy as recently as FFVII was still doing the standard menu based attack/magic/item etc stuff with little else going for it. Turn based combat in those days never reached the level of depth that TiTS has..
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>>375676837
>TitS
>depth
I like the series but come on
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>>375676650
I was underleveled for hard mode on FC and the only real challenge was the early fights with just Estelle and Joshua. Never grinded anything, just lots of white gehenna spam.
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>>375676650
Sure if you're talking about Nightmare, on Hard mode everything is doable, even too easy in FC.
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>>375677125
Compared to SNES RPGs, yes, depth.
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>>375676797
Abyss Worms are a good example of the kind of weird but cool designs you encounter. They look like scorpions or deep-sea fish at first, but then you see the pink worm inside a transparent shell. I find that shit interesting, while the Archaisms and things like Robber Trappers just look cool.

>>375677128
Faint's pretty OP in FC, and the main reason White Gehenna's so useful. Imagine if you could get Silver Thorn...
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I keep seeing art of her with bread. Is she a fan?
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>>375677307
It's like Aina and Sara with their alcohol, Ries just loves to fucking eat.
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>>375675327
I knew that was all there. I just wanted a response.
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>>375676702
I didn't mean they were broke, but they were just really lazily animated. Like almost photoshopped in the game.

It didn't feel they belonged to the area they were in or if they were part of nature. Very few monsters sticked to me as well, mainly being from quests like the penguins.

Like, look at this. Some sort of transparent worm? Many monsters looks incredibly out of place such as the gas mines and so on.
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>>375677273
>>375677426
Two different ways of looking at things
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>>375677426
I think those worms specifically may have been remnants from the earthquake experiment that was done in chapter 2. They're obviously out of place.
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>>375676837
FF5 was arguably more complicated than TitS... Not to mention TitS itself blatantly ripped off the Materia system from FF7.
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>>375677643
>FF7 invented magic rocks
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>>375677643
Wasn't the materia system more simplistic? I don't think each sphere had "elemental points" attached to it. If it did i forget, it's been way too long since i thouched FF7.
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>>375677643
Orbment plays absolutely nothing like materia though. The similiarity is that they are magical balls but the line ends there.
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>>375676101
Rean is handsome as fuck.
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>>375677734
Obrments are nothing like Materia. Can you mix Materia to create new spells?
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Good night Trails thread
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>>375677426
They're going to look a tad off anyway because they're pre-rendered 3D models inside polygonal environments. I got used to this and think what Trails FC/SC/3rd/Zero/Ao do with monsters works just as well as in mid-2000s Ys games. So many of them have more than just a simple idle loop, too.
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>>375677643
>TitS itself blatantly ripped off the Materia system from FF7
Lol no.. They are completely fucking different dude.. Did you even play the game?

Also ff5 does not have the following:

>positioning
>AoE based on positioning
>anything remotely similar to the complex orbment system introduced in TiTS
Just off the top of my head

Ff5 is literally any other basic SNES RPG except with a job system. That's not impressive at all.
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>>375677907
See everyone in two days.

Or even tomorrow.
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>>375677387
>>375677307

She's so fucking cute,
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>>375676837
m8, ff7 had MUCH more polish with mechanics than TiTs(attack when it is tail is up!).

Not mentioning it made use of its entire system and combat for you to defeat monsters. In TiTS, you are spamming the one same spell and attack with your characters occasionally scrafting to steal an opponent turn. When did you ever had to plan an interrupt? Or plan buffing or strategic positioning? The mechanics are there, but you don't need to use them.
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>>375677985
Thats a cute Laura
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Trails of Cold Steel 1 and 2 are the best localized games I've ever played.
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>>375678047
Stop playing on easy you fucking retard.
>it made use of its entire system
lol
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>>375678047
Ff7 didn't make use of shit. Ff7 is literally spam attack or your strongest magic/summons

The fact that someone on here unironically considers ff7 combat deeper than TiTS is hilarious to me. It really doesn't get any more basic than final fantasy
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>>375677849
I hope Jusis comes back looking just as handsome as Rean is.
>>375678156
I unironically prefer some of the english voices over the japanese. Not all but a select few.
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>>375678193
You can literally beat FF7 using nothing other than E. Skill and Manipulate materia
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I hope we get to see Ordine again and hear his soothing as fuck voice.
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>>375678248
Jusis is also just as good looking, if not more. Pulls off the regal air rather well.
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>>375678047
>you are spamming the one same spell and attack with your characters occasionally scrafting to steal an opponent turn
lol
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>>375678096
I've heard that she isn't all that popular but I'm curious if there's some female character poll for Cold Steel around.
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>>375677957
>They're going to look a tad off anyway because they're pre-rendered 3D models inside polygonal environments.

Ahh, i guess this is what has been bugging me off. I'm a huge sucker for sprites, but something with these was coming really wrong to me.
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>>375678038
She's taken, no funny ideas.
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>>375678343
Curious to see how he looks a bit older, given how much Rean seems to have grown up in just two years. A scowling Rufus with shorter hair still sounds pretty dashing to think about.
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>Divine Knights are probably based off sepith/quartz color
>Somewhere out there is a black divine knight who probably has time abilities
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>>375678553
Wrong. There's no romance between the two in 3rd. She's my wife.
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>>375674928
when you have to chase after agate but first take a detour to check the lapid in the town...
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How does the manga even treat the bonding events. I assume it's some rushed shit like most videogame manga adaptations.
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>>375676429
Because jack of trades always suck
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>>375677751
>Wasn't the materia system more simplistic

With Materia you have:

>elemental offensive magic
>healing and status curing
>buffs and debuffs
>status ailments
>HP draining
>summons
>monster interactions (stealing, manipulating, etc.)
>double casting/attacking
>stat manipulation

With Orbments you have:
>elemental offensive magic
>healing and status curing
>buffs and debuffs
>status ailments
>double casting/attacking
>stat manipulation

So no, they're not more complicated. Where Trails surpasses FF7 in terms of complexity are Crafts, combo attacks, and other shit like that. But Materia is still the more versatile system.
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>>375678932
What's with that look? It's like he's looking at the viewer and saying "yeah, check out this nice lunch plate i have? Bet you want a bite huh?".
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>>375679212
Orbments are vastly more complex than materia.
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>>375679282
No clue but the artist's style seems familiar
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>>375679212
Summons are the most overhyped shit in existence
They are literally just magic spells with fancy animations
Summoner as a job has always just been red mage with better magic at the cost of more MP consumption and not being able to do physical attacks
Summoning is the biggest meme in FF
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