*rolls eyes*

I assume this is about Strafe, in which case that guy is retarded. Strafe is a loveletter to Quake far more than Doom.

>>375600062
How was Doom 2016 Generic?

>>375600062
Ugh, like, can you not? Literally.

>>375600154
If it doesn't have shitty retro spikes or look like a pixar movie, it's generic.

>>375600062
*sucks your dick*

>>375600154
Ignore contrarians

>>375600062
>neo-DOOM
>"generic"

I'd love to live in whatever universe this guy is living in

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>>375600062
>hearts
It's a Steam restriction or he is just a fag?

>>375600062
>*auction*
cringe

>>375600307
It's a St**m thing

>>375600154
The monster designs were painfully generic and could have been pulled any mid 00s game like Gears of War or Resistance. Awkwardly shoehorning in experience grinding/unlocks is also painfully generic in this day and age.

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>>375600339
Got it, thank you!

strafe looks dogshit though, its made in fucking unity too

>>375600154
It's mainstream.
Hence, it's bad.

>>375600307
Since days of SPUF they censor shit with hearts.
Well, he might have done so himself, but it's basically censor stars over there.

>>375600371
None of the DOOM 4 monsters would have fit in Gears of War.

>>375600154
It doesn't have a minecraft voxel aesthetic, it's generic mainstream vidya with detailed textures, smooth models and actual art direction.

>>375600062
>shitty randomly generated levels
>doom is back

D44M was generic in terms of aesthetics, and how it overused arena sections, but it was a fucking good game overall.

Is the new doom at least decent? Strafe looks like shit. Quake was always shit in singleplayer.

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>>375600481

>>375600062
That guy probably wasn't even alive when Doom came out.That's the pathetic part

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>still trying to shill Strafe here even though basically everyone thinks it looks like a garbage Minecraft mod and knows you're the dev

>>375600371
What? Doom 2016 had Doom 1 Monsters for the most part. Demons and Cyberdemons.

Demons are not really Mainstream right now.

>Gun upgrades that turn your average tool of death into an outright Holocaust machine

wow wtf?????

>>375600531
>randomly generated levels
There goes any interest I may have had.

>>375600062

It's S'Arais again, the evolve cuck
http://steamcommunity.com/id/SArais
he probably posted this thread himself
here's your (you)

>>375600558
It's great.

>>375600724
>Self-Proclaimed Game Consultant & Teammate for "Hire"
>Three-Year PlanetSide 1 VS Veteran
>RTS and FPS Connoisse

This fucking guy.

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>>375600062
>tfw unable to enjoy TNO and new DOOM

>>375600772
TNO was dogshit though. They kept pushing their shitty narrative, stealth and muh love story in a Wolfenstein game where people just want to shoot nazis

>sex scenes in a wolfenstein game
>areas where your weapons are taken away in a wolfenstein game

>>375600724
Holy shit. I can't believe this pathetic asshole didn't hang himself after how hard he tried to shill and defend Evolve and became an embarrassment to the entire species.

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>>375600894
You've definitely earned this.

>>375600154
I dont get this, I felt it had everything to be a decent addition to the doom series. Gratifying voilence, decent enough levels and fast paced combat.

I sound like fucking shill but damnit, contrarians get me mad.

>>375600724
>RTS and FPS Connoisseur.
So a self-glorifying fanboy.

>>375600979
How am I wrong? Sex scenes, stealth sections, weapons taken away from you sections and shitty social commentary about blacks in America have no place in a Wolfenstein game.

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>>375600724
>He's back
Of course he's a fucking leaf.

>>375600154
literally a painkiller reskin

>>375600154
It's a generic painkiller clone.

>>375600979
You have a shit taste, m8.

>>375600680
problematic

>>375601207

>sex scenes
not glorified, go for maybe 5-10 seconds each, that's it
>stealth sections
completely optional
>weapons taken away from you
there's nothing wrong with this, especially as you get new weapons within minutes
>social commentary about blacks
a few scenes with jimi hendrix about muh freedoms is not "shitty social commentary about blacks" it's just american patriotism - also you won't even see these scenes if you save fergus at the beginning

>>375601496
>this much denial
WNO fags are this delusional.

>>375601207
>If a black person exists it's a political statement.

SJW's please leave.

will this game even have strafe jumping

>>375601596

not an argument

>>375601496
How much do they pay you?

>>375601612
>literally calls the main protagonist a nazi and disrespects the victims of Nazy Germany like hell

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>>375600062
>procedurally generated maps
LMAO

>>375601651
For wno fag.

>>375600123

>still 8 days

Shit better be good

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>>375600123
Doubt it

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Why can't D44M fans just admit they like a functional - yet boring, shooter?

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>>375600062
You have the mod community and it's all. At least they deliver

>>375602580
But thats doom 3, you nostalgia shitter.

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Does DOOM have the deepest lore?

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>>375602770
>fan of utterly fucking terrible bethshit trash
>call someone else a shitter

>>375602747
wot game is that

>>375600772
It took me like 4 tries to finally get into The New Order. It's good, but nothing special and suffers a lot from overly scripted segments where you're not shooting nazis.

The Old Blood I enjoyed more because I like the castle and the weapons were more satisfying, but it kinda dropped in quality once the zombies appeared

>people shitting on DOOM
Sad!

>>375601331
It's closer to Shadow Warrior 2013 with all the fucking upgrade shit.

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>>375602843
>Typical nostalgia shitter that lacks taste to appreciate anything that wasn't "muh childhood"
>gets surprised he gets called shitter.

>>375602910
Bombshell FPS prequel using the Build engine.

It's not out yet and currently there's no release date set

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>>375603027
>everyone disagrees with my obviously superior taste in XBOX ONE BRAND GAMES FOR THE XBOX ONE BRAND HOME CONSOLE SYSTEM
>they all must be the same person

>>375602965
>"people"
It's just degenerate scum trying way too hard like the guy in OP pic, typical fanboys who didn't even knew what makes a good shooter and instead focus on trivial shit like pixel graphics or viral marketing.

>>375600154
People call it a Painkiller reskin because one sperg said it and it seemed like a neat thing to say. I don't see it, but then again I'm a sane, well-adjusted individual

>>375600062
"DOOM is Finally BACK!"

>weapon carrying limit (and 3 weapons total iirc, could be wrong though)
>procedurally generated maps
>reloading
>piss poor monster variety (from what we've seen so far)

I mean even if you don't like DOOM 2016 it still has a lot more in common with the original Doom than STRAFE

>>375602747
I-i-is that Bombshell?

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>>375603136
Autism and mad, kill yourself.

>>375603084
Is there a trailer at least?

Strafe looks fun but the levels are randomly generated right? I hate that meme

>>375603259
None that I'm aware of, all we've had are some screenshots.

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Graphically, this STRIFE game look like the equivalent of an indie pixel game.

Let's wait and see.

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>>375603227
>xbot with buyer's remorse tells someone else to kill themselves
You realize that taking a bath with your only friend Cortana(TM) is your only way out right

>>375602580
>boring
nice meme nostalgiashitter

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Screw Doom. BLOOD is finally back thanks to devs of Dusk. Real bros if you ask me, they totally understand the challenge of bringing back CLASSIC fps style!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN1N05WmiqU

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>>375603338
wtf this look like complete shit lmao, and this is supposed to be better than DOOM 2016 according to OP's screencap ?

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>>375601612

ha ha ha I know right?

Just imagine ha ha ha?

>Doom and Quake
Literal code wizard as developer
God tier level designer
top tech of it's era

>Strafe
Shitty nobody developers
Randomly generated level design
Shitty lackluster pixel graphics for the sake of nostalgia

Oh yeah, DOOM is back, since i'm playing it again instead of this indie garbage game.

As I say on every DOOM threads, my only complains about that game are the overuse of closed arenas, how short the game is, how small the levels are, the hell levels being uninspired and Snapmap being a joke.

Except for that I liked everything about that game. It's not the second coming of FPS Christ as everyone says, but it still is a great game and a worth addition to the Doom series.

>>375600226
>>375600246
>>375600259
>>375600436
>>375600520
it has generic level design and movement for sure

it has great shooting, great weapons, great art, great enemies, great bosses, but generic levels and arenas and the movement is still too fucking slow
>>375600394
>>375600531
strafe will be an even worse overhyped 3/10 piece of shit though

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>>375603637

>>375602580
DOOM II has the worst levels in the series
say what you want about D44M but there is no in there that is as much of a clusterfuck as downtown

>>375603723
>>375603726
>xbots try hard and fail to convince anyone that HALOOM was good

>>375603783
>DOOM II has the worst levels in the series
in the second half of the game*

the first 16 levels of Doom II are some of the best ever designed.
>>375603814
my entire post was dedicated to criticizing nudoom you fucking idiot

>>375603741

How insane do you have to be to not consider straight the "default/normal"?
Its what keeps humanity alive.

>>375600062
woah, I'm a pretty big indie games guy but I never thought /v/ would be excited for one. Much less Strafe. This is nice

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>>375603338
It's actually a real bummer that this game looks the way it does. I've been wanting low-poly to come back ever since low-res hit it's stride. It can look fantastic but you really need good textures for it to work. Hopefully this game sets a trend despite it's mistakes.

>>375603814
I've never owned a Xbox console and I played a Doom game for the first time in 1996, when I got my first computer.

>>375603502
>An FPS where you can flip
I have waited since the first FPS I ever played for this. Devs have always been so tight on avoiding motion sickness that no game I know of has had the balls to give you real acrobatic abilities.

>>375603502
that music is badass and the gameplay looked good but I'm still on the fence. Will keep an eye out for it

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>>375603338
Strafe manages to look worse than Quake. And I'm not talking of Quakespasm

>>375604348
not the same guy but gameplay is way more important than art considering the demographic this game is trying to hit. and the gameplay in this game looks solid. they have a couple vids on youtube if you're interested

>>375604534
>strife
>gameplay

Nah m8 that's trash not gameplay.

>>375600154
level design never felt like you lost in a way too big complicated mess and was desperate to hunt for keys and gtfo even on harder modes, and you still felt too slow because the map design

Even classic Turok has better level design and speed than doom 2016

>indie
>roguelike
>procedural level generation
F*ck yeah, baby! DOOM is back!

>>375604585
how so? looks like there are a good amount of guns with a good amount of abilities. what's bad about it?

>>375604534
>randomly generated levels
>gameplay
gameplay IS encounters

if encounters are randomized or even if their placement/occurence is randomized then the game is shit

encounters are puzzles and gameplay is the tools you have to solve those puzzles. Random puzzles means no skill in solving them meaning the tools are useless whether they have potential or not

>>375604679
Old Doom was indie, little fuck

>>375604718 see >>375602313

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>>375600154
FUCKING ARENA SHITS
GIMME A GOD DAMN MAP WITH ACTUAL MONSTERS IN IT WHAT THE FUCK EVEN DOOM 3 HAD MONSTERS ROAMING THROUGH THE LEVELS.
ALSO
NO SLAUGHTERMAPS
HOW DO I RIP AND TEAR WITH NO MONSTERS TO KILL GOD DAMN IT?
THE GUNS ARE AMAZING
THE FIGHTS SUCK SHIT CAUSE THERE AREN'T ENOUGH THINGS TO KILL.
GLORYKILLS GET BORING HALFWAY THROUGH THE GAME AND CERTAIN ENEMIES ONLY HAVE ONE SPECIFIC ANIMATION.
ALSO
ALL YOU FUCKIN IRONIC SHITPOSTERS IN HERE
I HOPE YOU STEP ON BROKEN GLASS.
PS
THERE WASN'T EVEN ONE FUCKING MONSTER CLOSET THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE GAME DID THESE CUNTS EVEN PLAY THE FIRST DOOMS?
THERE'S MORE BUT I'M SLOWLY GETTING ANGRIER I NEED TO GO PLAY SOME WADS TO CALM DOWN.

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>>375603726
THIS

>>375604593
What kind of low iq retard finds Doom 2016 level design big and complicated?

Would be sad and entertaining watching you trying to play something like Turok 2.

>>375600520
>Minecraft
>Voxels
t. Dumbass newfag.

>>375604726
that's not really true though. procedural generation like everything else can be good if done well. I'm also guessing you don't understand the point of this game. A full game of strafe will be short. really short. the procedural generation is meant to keep the game alive. you keep playing and coming back to the game because you will see something different. what's the point if you finish the game in a day and never play again?

>>375605074
>procedural generation like everything else can be good if done well
wrong

the point of procerdural generation is the lack of understanding that level design is one of the only important things in ANY video game design

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>>375600558
It's the epitome of a 7/10.
The guns, addons for the guns, and even the movement are all extremely solid. Fighting monsters is fun and satisfying. The new health system is casualized as fuck but fun.
But as I said here >>375604824 you won't ever get to use the gameplay mechanics on more than a handful of enemies at a time
The fact that Bethesda is the publisher meaning there wont be any type of new content for the game means you should probably wait till they try to release DOOM2™ or get it incredibly cheap.

>>375605074
>you keep playing and coming back to the game because you will see something different


Yeah, one time the exit might be to the left and anoher time to the right
WOAH

>>375604940
???

>>375605145
>I know nothing about game design the post.

A well designed procedural system will take 10 times more effort than a handcrafted environment

>>375605074
It's going to be exactly like loading up Oblige maps with Doom.
You will not have any type of cohesive storyline or 'theme' through these maps and it's all going to get stale very quickly.

>>375605229
>A well designed procedural system will take 10 times more effort than a handcrafted environment
I'd say infinitely more, because it cannot exist

>>375601251
man this place sometimes scares me
you guys are so fucking jaded and filled with hatred that sometimes i'm genuinely amazed by how far you pull these kind of things
thank god i'm not a fucking attentionwhore like that cunt

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>>375604932
>I cant read

>>375600154
>How was Doom 2016 Generic?
>>375604593
>level design never felt like you lost in a way too big
>doom 2016 NEVER felt big and complicated

>even classic turok has better levels and speed

Get it yet?
I'm also to the mantids lair or whatever in turok 2 thats why I brought it up

>>375600062
It's a roguelite with FPS controls, not a comeback like the marketing are telling you.

>aiming up and down
>ITS CLASSIC DOOM

When will this meme end?

>>375605326
well, I had hoped you could see reason but I guess that's not possible. I will encourage you to learn a bit more about game design though. and maybe try something new every once in a while

>final you

>>375600062

procedurally generated fps? garbage.

>>375605542
Not him but he's right.
Procedural will never be as good as levels designed by a human being.

>>375605369
I agree. If I ever make a game I will never piss off this place.

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>blah blah hardcore blah blah old school blah blah true fps style blah blah blah proced gen levels blah blah blah so epic le hard meme eks dee
dropped

>>375603930
What's more disgusting is that they think my sense of self is based on my race rather than my beliefs, my desires, and my past actions. I've seen myself reflected in fucking japanese women in doujin visual novels, and I'm a black dude.

>>375605229
That may be true but a hand designed level made by people who know what they are doing will be 10 times the quality of a generated one.

>its 10x the effort so it must be good

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>>375600062
>randomly generated bullshit
>classic DOOM

>>375600327
>*auction*

what

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oh hey, this looks nice-
>oversized indie pixel syndrome
>textures and polygons are actually uglier than quake and d3d
>preorder weapon
>procedurally
>generated
>levels

I'm out. if you are too lazy to design a game, why even go into game design as a profession you fucking moron

>>375601251
What a donut

>>375605395
How was Doom 2016 generic. Generic right now mean a Call of Duty or Battlefield campaign. That's Generic. How was Doom 2016 generic.

>>375600154
The entire game was modeled around the Press X to insta-kill bullshit and as a result the enemy variety and level design are severely lacking.

>>375605878
this
just fucking boot up old doom or quake rather than this

>>375604593
This. It gets so repetitive with the "look, there's an arena and you need to beat those waves of enemies before proceeding" shit

>>375605467
Classic Doom didnt have aiming due to technology issues, not by choice.

>>375603930
You're isolating one segment of their argument and attacking it while ignoring the rest, which is disingenuous. "Straight" is definitely normal, nobody is arguing against that. "Straight white male" is not necessarily normal and in fiction (emphasis on fiction) it can be boring to see the same character archetypes repeated over and over. This story is about a straight white male, oh this story is also about a straight white male, this story is also about a strai---I'm fucking bored here.

The point is that in fantasy fiction, reading the same thing over and over is boring and it stops being fantasy. Isn't variety more interesting? If you genuinely want every single fantasy story to be about straight white males because everything in the real world is centred around straight white males then I have absolutely no respect for you because you obviously have absolutely no respect for fantasy.

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>>375605542

>>375605878
I agree completely.

Im a huge mapfag (love maps in games or even overhead zoom outs) and always wished I was competent enough to make a game because level design is my fetish.

I miss when games wanted you to get lost for like half an hour sometimes before finally starting to understand a small part of the map and its labyrinth like connections and shortcuts.

>>375600062
>post specifically crafted to get as many upvotes as possible

i seriously hope you dont do this

>>375605971
t. shit at the game

>>375605971
You cant press X to insta kill. You can kill stunned enemies to get health and ammo.

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>>375605369
Place is called the Internet Hate Machine for a reason newfag.
You should see what /pol/'s done to Shia.

>>375605965
The map design is generic and boring.

>its good cause it looks different and is kinda but not really fast

>>375605971
I personally liked that mechanic because it kept you in the fight and it was risk-reward of sorts. Also, it was only obligatory for bosses

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>>375606198
The map design is Mars and Hell. How is this a Jungle or a Desert in the middle east?

Please, dont use Generic to mean "I didnt like it."

I dont like the x to health and ammo in 2016 doom because it makes map resources pointless.

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>>375606198
Also, here is the level design, which is what I assume you call Map design.
A ton of rooms to explore, hidden collectables, challenges, challenge rooms.

>>375606079
>Playing Quake with filters

I bet you think Darkplaces is the best sourceport for Quake, don't you?

>>375605683
The important thing to know is if you don't act like a dumbass, the odds of you pissing off people here are pretty slim.

>>375606406
Not in Nightmare. The health received from enemies is too small to replace medikits

>>375606440
shut the fuck up

>>375606342
>it looks different so its good

The map DESIGN not the fucking art and themes is boring. You never get lost and feel like your in danger of running out of ammo even on hard difficulties. You never are looking through a maze for keys trying to gtfo becuase its both too easy and funnels you towards the end.

Go play turok 2 and see what a maze really is.
Go play classic doom and realize that the ending is sometimes not obvious at all and how annoying it can be to get through ceratin levels.

Doom 2016 never reaches either of those points and its boring because of it. If i'm not getting lost because there are too many teleports or its just plain too big then I'm bored.

Even chex quest has a better maze in one level.

>>375606440
Holy shit, more hallways than final fantasy 13.
>>375606406
It also arguably ruined the pacing of the game

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>>375606134
>You should see what /pol/'s done to Shia.

I had to look it up after you wrote this, and it always warms my little heart a bit

>>375603338
DUDE
POLYGONS
LMAO

>>375605313
Not exactly. It's not totally random level generation, rather it's a bunch of rooms within a certain theme that are randomly connected for each world.

>>375606690
>I had to look it up
*again

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>>375606342
It wasn't generic from an art standpoint. It was generic because the map design during the last third of the single player boiled down to pic related.

And no, I'm not a mindless hater; I personally love DOOM, but you simply can't deny its flaws.

>>375606440
All I see anon is some cobbled together shit with no rhyme or reason put to it.

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>>375606681
What?

>>375606790

it's a shame that they got so formulaic towards the end

>>375606453
So, can you tell me which one is the best one? I got that screenshoot from the first torrent I grabbed, but I want to give Quake a replay.

>>375605971
>people play shooters on difficulties lower than the hardest

What's the point in even playing?

>>375606871
It was a lot sooner than 'towards the end'. That shit started as soon as you got into Hell. Foundry and the level before that weren't too awful with the linearity, but those were it.

>>375606918
Just play WinQuake, it still works perfectly fine.

>>375606871
Yeah. The mars levels had exploration and backtracking. The latest hell levels were corridors.

I hope they fix it for the sequel.

>>375606918
quakespasm if you're a normal human being, qbism super8 if autism

>>375606918
Check >>3958097

Quakespasm is probably your best option

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>>375606790
>>375606845
>I want labyrinthine level design in my first person SHOOTER games

Jesus Christ please FUCK OFF

I want to spend my time in FPS games actually SHOOTING things, not looking for keys and getting lost in mazes. You faggots stuck in the past are actually holding back the FPS genre by not buying the newer games, because you actually want first person key finding simulators, not first person SHOOTERS.

>>375601251
>tfw I actually enjoyed Evolve and can give the exact reasons why it failed, and they all revolve around the dev being incompetent and signing (((Exclusive))) map and DLC deals for consoles.

>>375607028
I read this as WiiQuake. That anon should play WiiQuake, it supports mouse and keyboard.

>entire point of lower difficulties use to be so you could learn the enemy variety and map layout to even stand a chance on highest
>not if you dont play on the highest difficulty right away the game is far too easy

What happened? And I didnt get old, I was over 20 when I first played doom and most "classic" shooters

>>375607118
How casual are you that you cant find a key in a doom game.

>>375607147
Bethesda shills on /v/ trying to make their game seem less unbalanced and/or bad.

>>375600123
To be fiar, quake was basically doom in 3d with some rebalancing.

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>>375607118
>old games maps are hard and i get too lost

Found the fag, go play turok 2 and then come back.
>yfw mission failed

>>375607118
>I want to spend my time in FPS games actually SHOOTING things, not looking for keys and getting lost in mazes.

t. never played half-life

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>>375607306

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>>375602831

>Doom was originally meant to be an Aliens FPS
>even after becoming its own thing they still can't help massively ripping off Aliens

>>375607118
Having complex level design is part of the shooting.
Ambushes, limited space to move forcing you to take strategic decisions, certain enemies placed in a careful designed room so it can take advantage of their strengths, all of those things make a shooter game more interesting than just a bunch of open spaces.

>>375607376
Games with movement like this look like a lot of fun, but I've never been able to get it down.

>>375600154
Kill me.

>>375607147
But that's how DOOM works: Nightmare and the iron man mode aren't unlocked until you clear the campaign on either easy, normal or Ultra Violence, and Nightmare's enemy statistics make certain strategies that worked on UV not viable anymore.

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>>375607118
Use the automap you fucking donkey

>>375600062
*rolls your foreskin like a sleeve*
OwO what's this

>>375607376
half-life has some of the coolest speedruns, and great levels design too.

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>>375600062
Like it ever left, stupid nu-doomtards.

Doom's never leaving, and it doesn't need to come back. Only nu-gaymers would give a damn about it.

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>>375607450
>Ambushes, limited space to move forcing you to take strategic decisions, certain enemies placed in a careful designed room so it can take advantage of their strengths
These can be done with level design that doesn't force backtracking and arbitrarily pad the game length through key hunts.

>>375607306
Half Life actually had god-tier level design that guided you through LINEAR MAPS and is recognised as one of the best shooters of all time. Go figure.

>>375607304
Old game maps are fucking boring because it's easy to get lost. Backtracking in an FPS is shit level design. I want to be shooting things and avoiding getting shot. I don't want to be looking for macguffins and keys and backtracking and other stupid shit. Give me things to shoot or design a different style of game you cunt.

>>375607179
>getting bored = being a casual
hurr durr

Labyrinthine for the sake of being labyrinthine is a bad design decision too; Doom 2 suffer from that a lot.

>>375608009
>Give me things to shoot or design a different style of game you cunt.
So you never played Turok 2 then because there are always things to shoot while you get lost since you clearly have no sense of direction in a 3d space.

also one more time
>i get lost so its too hard
Not everyone is fucking awful at games.
Maybe in fact those games are what entertained us so anything less is boring trash because you literally can not get lost once.

>>375600154
They made a doom themed painkiller clone instead of a doom game

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>>375607304
>Turok 2
>lair of the blind ones
>mantid hive
>primagen lightship
>They want you to go through those fucking levels again later to get the final keys
Fuck.

Are the Steam versions of Turok 1 and 2 good if you never played those games before?
Given how they seem to be maze-like, do they have an automap? If they don't it's not a big deal; I recently played Shadow Tower Abyss and I got around by making my own maps in a notebook.

>>375608205
I never played Turok or any of the sequels because dinosaurs are fucking gay.

>i get lost so its too hard

You're not understanding me. I get lost so it's BORING. It's not too hard to eventually find your way out of a maze. It's just fucking boring to do that when I could be shooting things.

>>375608148
I would have said Doom 2's problem was too many levels relying on a single gimmick, and too many city levels.

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>>375600062
>Strafe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9FvHPRJTzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpC87qQT9RE

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>>375606134

>Internet Hate Machine

>newfag

Go back to ED please

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>>375609262
>Implying we're not all newfags.
ED was atleast better than KYM since it took the piss as a wiki.

>>375608730
Must suck to have ADHD you underage faggot.

>>375600062
ok how much do you get paid?

>>375608326
How is this a bad thing?

>>375601684
name please

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>>375608009
>Half Life actually had god-tier level design that guided you through LINEAR MAPS and is recognised as one of the best shooters of all time. Go figure.
> Backtracking in an FPS is shit level design.

oh, you suddenly forgot about the backtracking and guiding scientists through mazes and shortcuts?
you suddenly forgot about the offices or the train?

how about you and your shitty arguments go fuck yourself

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This whole "using dated graphics for the sake of dated graphics" is so fucking stupid.
Quake and Doom were cutting edge at the time of their release and games using older engines did it due to budget constraints, not out of misguided nostalgia

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what games did you played today, anons

>>375608730
must suck to get lost so hard in a video game you actually get bored. thank god I was born with an IQ above 80.

>>375609719
Oh so 89 IQ?

>>375609692
Long War 2. Not as good as LW1.

>>375609692
none, like the last few weeks. bought space engineers and ziggurat on sale though, not knowing what to expect.

>>375609692
TF2 with a few friends and Doom 2.

>>375600154
Level design is standard modern fps "walk a corridor till you get to arena", barely any puzzles. Music is pure shit compared to classics. Melee button that fucking does forced kill animations. Enemies dropping health, speed is overall slower, weapon designs are pretty meh (I fucking despise d44m super shotgun). It's the best of the generics but still can't compare to the classics.

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>>375609841
no, 88

>>375609692
Dying light and Metro

>>375609692
Quake Live

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You didn't buy Desync so you'll get garbage like Strafe

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>>375603338

>>375610302
Desync was garbage too

>>375609916
It's not a generic at all.

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>>375609916
this fucking finishing bullshit

>fuck yeah, I'm demon speeding
>oh shit I need to execute and break the flow of movement to watch a fucking animation play infront of me
>and again
>and again
>and again

it would have a redeeming factor if the levels were bigger, more enemies shooting at you from different angles (like balconies for example) and more enemies on the screen at the same time instead of just around a dozen.

for some reason, they made a great base and fucked it up with these strange limitations like small levels and small amounts of enemies.

when I played it, I always kept asking myself "why is there not more? why is this not bigger?"
the same goes for the level editor, which has a fucking prop limit. how ever heard of a level editor with a prop limit? are you fucked in the head?

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>>375610552
Is that your expert opinion buddy? Where you at on the leaderboards? You didn't just listen to ggmandies... right?

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Reminder to derail all shill threads

>>375610718
>get berserk power up
>just wanna punch shit
>kill animation every single time
what a fucking joke

>>375609609
But you expect indie devs to somehow deliver AAA graphics? Sure they don't have budget constraints or anything like that...

>>375600520
>talking shit about Voxels

>>375605395
>LOOK GUYS, I'M RETARDED!!!

>>375610302
That screenshot just reminds me that Chroma never happened.

>>375600062
I didn't like Doom 4 that much but thinking Strafe will be any better is stupid.

>>375610718
>you weren't forced to use them
>0.5 sec animations that changed depending on position or type of enemy
Literally looking for shit to complain about.

>>375606134
what the fuck kind of name is American McGee?

>>375611921
They were pretty necessary because the health and armor pickups were so scarce.

>>375611992
Not all. You're probably just bad.

>>375612214
They were. And when you did find them, they'd only give like 25 health max. And even an attack from the weakest enemies would tear out 40-50 damage.

>>375611979

His parents were hippies

>>375612308
Literally making shit up. There were even stations that fully restored your health.

>>375612517
In like 2 levels.

>>375611921
>>375612214
>you weren't forced to use them

yeah, I fell for that too and got the game. too bad that this minor shit sprinkle should have been the ultimate red flag for me before wasting my money.

>>375606134
Why were people upset with McGee?
I like the Alice games and it sounds like he's defending Dead or Alive in this post.

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>>375612591
He tried to go against (((their))) version of the zeitgeist.
When we don't like people we send pizzas to their houses and sign their emails up for tranny websites.
(((They))) kidnap your loved ones and blackmail you till you play ball.

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>>375613181
>grr

>>375613408
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/everything-else/92297-any-news-on-american-mcgees-sister-mercy-johnson-covington/
>She's still missing.
Yea we may laugh at the dumbfuck typing like a retard. But he might've actually done something.

>>375613520
He posted those messages on facebook, isn't that enough to get a police warrant?

>>375613657
Facebook stuff is finicky. I wouldn't know the specifics but I do know that Trayvon's dealing of drugs and admitting to making shit like lean was hand waived by the court during the Zimmerman trial.

>>375609518
Birmingham Edwards.

>>375600062
*teleports on top of you*

>>375609341
Oldfag reporting in

>>375612549
Wrong.

>>375612584
Epic contrarianism bro.

>>375614967
There certainly aren't any in the Hell levels.