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Why does /v/ like this girl so much?

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Why does /v/ like this girl so much?
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>>375583160
likes anal
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>>375583195
DELET
MAKOTO IS PURE
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cause /v/ is boring
at least she's not futaba, who is exclusively for the brain dead
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>>375583160
She's great and also Soejima's favorite.
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>>375583195
someone explain this anal meme
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Persona's art style is disgustingly safe. It's clearly trying to pander to normalfaggots by being 'anime but semirealistic'. A lot like nu-Nier.
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>>375583160
It isn't just limited to /v/, but Makoto is the most popular choice pretty much everywhere.
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>>375583509
Nier is only attracting memers, not normalfags, actually they're kind of the same person so nevermind.
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As far as I can tell
>Not a slut
>Not a midget
>Not some girl you only know for like a month
>Not an OL
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>>375583160
atlus masterwork
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>>375583160
We don't though.
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>>375583160
It's more like most of the fanbase in general loves her.
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>>375583160
>Awkward dork Naoto and tomboy Chie are the two most popular Persona girls
>Makoto is a mixture of awkward dork and tomboy
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Because she's a Mary Sue. Like when you have to go retrieve Futaba, the writers constantly make Makoto have 90% of dialogues and interact with Futaba the most. The thief guild is supposed to be a wagon of outcasts and she's just a super rich girl from high class who's the president of her school who lives in a nice condominium. The game tried to portray she's just like the rest of the gang by adding forced drama that everyone calls her useless but everyone forgets about it for the rest of the game.
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>>375583160
She's cute as fuck.
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>>375583160
Daily reminder to completely disregard ann.
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>>375586054
>makoto is a mary sue
>futaba is literally hacker jesus

??????????
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>fist weapons
>revolvers
>motorcycle persona
>JUSTICE
>PREVAILS
>WHILE BEING CUTE
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>>375586138
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>>375586314
Don't try to reason with the "Makoto ruined the game" shitposter.
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>>375583160
Less cute than Sadayo!
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>>375586446
New one added to the collection.
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>>375585812
Pretty much nailed it. She's almost like all the popular girls in the franchise rolled into one.
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>>375583160
/v/ loves worst girl. Like all the Rise shitters.
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>>375583340
There's a quote in the game where she says she's 'going to leave the backdoor open for you'
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Helps that she also has the best (English) VA out of all of them.
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>>375583340
and see >>375586153
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>>375585812
whose booty?
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>>375583160
She's the biggest waifubait and doing a good job at that.
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>Red Eyes
>Motorcycle/Transformer Persona
>Cool Post Apocalypticish Costume
>Slaps a bitch
>thicc
>Does Anal
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>>375587891
That's her own trait, since all the P4 girls had no booty.
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because they like robots who hate fun
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>>375583160
Because she reminds them of Iris.
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>>375588732
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>well educated
>Strong independent woman that still recognizes the need for a partner
>Polite, timely, responsible
>Is still a fucking freak in the sack
>Will enjoy playing video games and watching silly movies with you as much as helping you with responsibilities and her own career.
>Will never put you below anything.
>that ass is to die for
>She will speak to you softly as she rests her head
>But she can still fuck your shit up if you piss her off.
>will accept your cat
>DOES NOT DRINK LITERAL SHIT.
>Her forehead is normal sized
>She didn't fuck the teacher.
>She showers, unlike some NEETS
>Probably down to let you mess around with her sister.
>will support herself, won't overspend on frivolous shit, besides the occasional cute pencil case she takes to work.
>Keeps her hands off your cat
>Is not a robot
>DOES NOT BEEP BOOP
>Is great at planning, and probably housework too.
>isn't a prostitute maid, some homeless hippie and alcoholic UGLY journalist or an orphan NEET/Prissy bitch that can't stop growing plants

To summarize, she's perfect.
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>>375583340
>someone explain this anal meme

What's to explain?
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>>375586396

Man the shit you almost miss when you rely on fast travel
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>>375583292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ZF_R_j0OY
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WHY IS SHE SO PERFECT
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>>375589732
I really wished they had made it obvious she was reading something completely asinine to drive the point further.
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is it a headband or is her hair braided?
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>>375589967
UNF
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>>375590029
it's a headband
artbook says so
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>>375590029

it's a hair band. the art book shows so.
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>>375590050
>>375589967

>Dem back dimples

So this is the power of PS4
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>>375590029
headband according to the special edition artbook.

Am I the only one that felt horrible when she mentions she's had the same pencil case since she was a kid? It kinda drives the point that Sae treats her like garbage. Its not that she doesn't like normal things, she just can never do/buy/go to them because her sister keeps her with 0 money and always forced to study.

That's why we have to save her, she IS our Queen after all.
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>>375590367
those are PS3 screenshots though
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>>375590029
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>>375589558
Hifumi is great
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>>375590369

I think she just keeps that case because she likes it. Pencil cases don't go bad and she said they didn't make any Hello Panda merch anymore.

>It was probably a gift from her dead dad.
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>>375590414
BTFOOOOO
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>>375586573
Yeah makotoers do that by themselves in- okay it isn't as bad here in /V/ but everywhere else macumto fans ruin message boards
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Why does her hairband have the same color as her hair? Lazyness on the artists part? No real person would choose such a color for their hairband (i.e. same as their hair color)
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>>375590619

I see more people bitching about her than I do the opposite.
>>375590701
>Why does her hairband have the same color as her hair?

She has a common hair color and doesn't want to stand out as trashy.

>No real person would choose such a color for their hairband (i.e. same as their hair color)

Yes they would.
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>>375588101
Man I knew I wouldn't romance her when this answer didn't even get me any upboats with her. How much of a party pooper unfunny cunt do you have to be to not laugh at this light hearted joke?
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>>375590701
>No real person would choose
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Why didn't Ann and Makoto just have a cat fight after school and stole her phone and deleted her evidence.

Would made much more sense then the whole Kanashiro incident
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>>375589006
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>>375590891

Because Makoto would have torn Ann in half.
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>ass queen
>decent tits
>good genes overall judging from her sister
>student council president, smart bitch
>timid and cute but will stomp a nigga when pushed too hard
>uses revolvers, the greatest handguns ever made
>kung fu fuck you up, you're ten years too early, fago
>is going to be a police commissioner
>knows how to ride motorcycles(the best characters in persona all know how to ride motorcycles)
>persona is a transformer
>can make donuts
>FISTS OF JUSTICE
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>>375590996
>>uses revolvers, the greatest handguns ever made

Plus 10 to all stats.

Enough buffs to kill anything that moves.
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>>375583160
Waifubait that the game throws at you
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>>375588101
I went with the straight supportive reply here, but that the bit of teasing just gets a straight negative reaction is rather disappointing. Though I suppose it makes sense as she was rather wound up after the confrontation with her friend, so it's reasonable she wouldn't be in the mood for the teasing. One could presume she might be more receptive to such a joke after actually starting to date her several events down the line.

Not being able to take her to the planetarium is still the most disappointing thing though, imo
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>>375591051
Is there anyone else that gets something like that? I know Joker gets the Metatron gun that's +5 to all but that's the closest I've seen.
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>>375587013
Christ. People could do with taking something literally for once
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>>375591521

It might be fun to play Joker as the glib asshole but the timing really wasn't right for it. She's confiding in you and is kind of a serious problem to start with.

I let her have it during the school festival and other events though. Spaghetti everywhere
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>>375590891
Ann couldn't win against Makoto my dude
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>>375583160
Being named Makoto automatically makes you best girl.
It's a scientific fact.
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>>375583195
New fad, just like naoto was for P4
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Is Makoto better than Morgana in battle?
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>>375591920
She's cuter what else do you need
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>>375588732
Not even close dunce. Iris is garbage. Makoto is great. Personality matters.
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>>375592002
Yeah so Iris is better.
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>>375591856

Huh. You're right.
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>>375591698
>I let her have it during the school festival and other events though. Spaghetti everywhere
>Already dating her by the festival
>Shout "Do you have a boyfriend?!" as the interrupt
>Spaghetti everywhere
Was disappointed there wasn't something specific like "You should know!" mixed in there, but oh well, not like a lack of SL progression integration is anything new.

She's still adorable.
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>>375591920
depends, shes got good buffs/debuffs and can take hits better
morgana has dem sexy crits though, and is the superior healer. not that you need any more than makotos mediarama though.
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>>375591856
True
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>>375592036
Fuck off you and your mediocre game
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>>375591718
>>375590957
Her Akido must be so good she forgot to use it when she got subdued by some wannabe Yakuzas Kek

What good is self defense if she doesn't even know when to use it

She even say in her social links she has no idea how others interact outside of academics she probably wouldn't even realize shes getting into a fight in the first place Ann would btfo her and in the mix Ryuji will snatch the phone and run of with it
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>>375591920

+10 stat boosting revolver
+Can take a hit from physical and cast magic
+Can take a hit from spells and do damage
+Great buffs
+Can heal
+very few enemies that can cast Psi

she might not be the wizard or slugger Ann and Ryuji are respectively but she makes a fantastic support tank and will keep your party strong and do damage sometimes
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>>375592036
>Iris
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>>375591856
It's only natural.
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>>375592101
tomboys are too pure for this world
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>>375591920
I constantly use them both. Morgana is crit machine with luck build and Makoto abilities is too good.
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>>375591920
On that note, does Yusuke lose usefulness later? Because around lv30-ish he seems like Ryuji's straight upgrade, but I don't see many people keeping him around.
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>>375592109
No she wouldn't there's a difference between yakuzas and some dumb model
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>>375592105
>he's actually triggered over facts
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>>375591856
Must be a rule of nature.
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>>375592278
Higher MP Pool and Crit Rate, but he lacks Ryuji's buffs.
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>>375592340
AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP
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I thought I'd like Makoto more than I did in the end. Her awakening implies her perfect-student style is a facade for unending rage, but that part never comes up again and she's a robot the rest of the game. Then when you try to make her more human, her social link becomes about a side character instead of her own growth.
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>>375591856
Fuck you are right
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>>375592340
>>375592180
>>375592101
>>375592038
You know it
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>>375590619
>/V/
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>>375592410
I personally ended up liking her more than I would have thought, since I didn't originally care much about her going into the game. I do agree that her confidant is kind of shit and as a character, she's a lot more tame than her phantom thief outfit suggests.
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>>375592312
Low effort bait my dude
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>>375592410
>Her awakening implies her perfect-student style is a facade for unending rage,

What? No it didn't. How could you misinterpret that so badly. She was just sick of being used by everyone and trying to live up to everyone expectations

Her rage was bottled down because she had to be miss perfect and couldn't lash out like she wanted too. It wasn't because she was the incredible hulk.
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>>375592410
just because she isnt a punk rebel in every scene doesnt null and void her awakening anon. shes still a good girl on the surface.
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>>375583325
No wonder she is absolute shit, just like Toriyama and Lightning fanaticism.
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She's a good mom
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>>375592629
I'm so glad that she's my wife
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>>375592162
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>>375592558
>Shouts a string of profanities when she finally has enough.
>Wears biker leathers and an iron mask.
>Martial arts expert.
>Rides a motorcycle.

How do they include all this characterization yet still make her so reserved and responsible after?

I'm convinced that Makoto was retconned at one point to be more passive for the sake of the waifu audience, hence why her social link was so shit. Didn't help that she's the canon romance.
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>>375592152

It kinda bothers me that her attacks are so weak, what with the whole anger motif.
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>>375592162
>makoto cosplayer so ugly needs to cover face
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>>375592542

All the party confident where weak this go around. Though to be fair they did have more actual character in the main game this time around.

>>375592629

Marry Makoto. Imouto Futaba. Happily Ever after.
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too much yukiko, not enough chie.
chie doenst need a faggot joker to punch bullies.
Makoto punches her friends instead of bullies.
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>>375592629
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>>375592763
Chie is boring compared to Yukiko though.
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>>375592757
Can I still fugg the Imouto?
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>Romancing Makoto
>Teammates ask if I want to get married
>Reply "yes"
>Makoto gets all flustered
CUTE
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>>375592803
Nigger what the fuck
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>>375592763

Chie beat up Yosuke over a DVD and kicked you and him off a mountain because he said they looked hot.

I mean in absolute fairness FUCK YOSUKE but still.
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>>375592803
>a white sheet of paper is more interesting than a sheet of paper with something drawn/written on
what the fuck
>>375592879
Makoto slaps her friend instead of the gay host.
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She's the best girl since Maya.
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>>375592757
Haru, Ann, and Futaba have good links because each has more than one thing happening in their lives. Yusuke and Ryuji (and Hifumi) harp on a single obsession and feel less dynamic.

Makoto's sucked because they threw away the Slacker premise and spent too many events trying to solve the Host thing.
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I like makotos eyes
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>>375592705
>How do they include all this characterization yet still make her so reserved and responsible after?
Hitting her breaking point doesn't mean she suddenly stopped being a reserved, responsible student council president. She just decided that she'd had enough of people piling shit on her, and that she wasn't going to take it anymore. And she doesn't. When the Principal tries to get on her case again later, she shuts him down and moves along. When her friend starts acting like an indignant cunt after having all the evidence in the world shoved in her face, she slaps her. Her development was about standing her ground and doing things for the reasons and beliefs she held personally, not for anyone else, not pulling a 180 to being a totally different person.
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>>375592914
because her friend was being an idiot. When Makoto threatened to beat up the gay host he ran away.
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>>375592968
Why is she so angry when she fights
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Do girls like Makoto exist?
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>>375592997
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>>375592752
It's strange that they stopped giving her any physical attacks after Flash Bomb. Maybe they'll fix that in the updated rerelease like how P4G did.
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>>375592948

Ann's was awful. It was completely erratic. At first it seemed nice because she was address the Shiho button but then it was LOL I WANT TO BE AN ANIME VILLAIN! HAH HAH PFFT I DON'T TAKE MY MODELING SERIOUSLY. LETS EAT CAKE.
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>>375592948
I wish Hifumi had more interesting shit to her confidant. She's like one of the cutest girls in the entire game but I don't give a single fuck about shogi and dumb chuuni attitudes.
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>>375592996
chie didnt have to punch yukiko for being an idiot.
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>>375593019
I want her to beat me up
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>>375593042
Nothing wrong with eating cake
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>>375593038
shes ment to be the better long term healer than morgana so I doubt it.
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>>375593057
maybe she should have
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>>375592410
Makoto is not a violent thug, you know. She's is very polite, level-headed and well-mannered. But she also hates being manipulated by others and pretending to be a perfect girl for the sake of others. She enjoys reading books and touring in her free time, that's how she is. And that's what makes her a good character.
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>>375590791
>tfw Haru gives notes for all of the joke answers and appreciates you trying to cheer her up
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>>375593038

Eh, that would have horned in on Ryuujis turf too much. She already gets high level nukes and can punch shit to death normally as is, she'd be completely OP with a high level physical skill.

>>375593057

I never thought Id say this but Yukiko wasn't as stupid as the Makoto's friend.
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>>375593142
She is also a great spy
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>>375593083
Naoto being the Light/Dark/Almighty user in 4 didn't stop them from giving her fucking everything in Golden.
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>>375593049
shit opinion
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>>375593183

well considering you only have like a month to actually work on her confidant I would hope so.
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>>375593219
The best.
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>>375593042
Ann:
Wants to support her injured friend.
Talks about why she got into modeling.
Talks about how she was lonely at school.
Is getting bullied by another model.
Uses these experiences to decide to take modeling more seriously and to stand up to bullies by outdoing them, all so she can inspire others.

Pretty good to me.
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>>375592842
>romance every Haru, Futaba, Ann and Makoto
>they all get flustered
Wow great design Atlus
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>>375593254
Does she call you Dark Flame Master?
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>>375593254
I would probably walk out if I was playing a game with someone and they said all that. I can handle a lot of fake anime bullshit, but not the chuuni stuff.
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Is Makoto and Haru the most popular P5 girls? They seem to be getting a lot of fanart
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>>375593262
It's honestly super easy to max. She has more "good" answers than most confidants and I'm sure she requires less points between ranks.
You can get her to 8 before Sae's palace's deadline easily.
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>>375593298
And don't forget cake
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>>375593298
I wish i could have a confidant with her friend instead of her
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>>375593359
This
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Im not really one to buy costume DLC but those shorts
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>>375593359
They should've cut Mishima and had Shiho run your fansite

I don't think I know anyone who actually likes Mishima
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>>375593341
Makoto is by far the most popular character from the game aside from Joker. In terms of the girls it goes something like Makoto > Kawakami > Futaba > Ann > Haru.
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>>375593183
I want to make Haru happy!
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>>375593341
Makoto and Futaba still dwarf Haru in terms of amount of fan art, and she's the least popular girl in the main party.
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>>375593330
It's nice that she abandons her Chuuni ways at the end of her Confidant.
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>>375593440
I don't know, I thought it was kind of cute
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>>375593410
I like Mishima
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>>375593440
that's just retarded
way to go atlus
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>>375593410
Fuck i would love having her running the website and fangirling about the phantom thieves
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>>375593330
Protip: don't play IRL card game tournaments then.

Yu-Gi-Oh is rife with that shit. So is Pokemon. You'd think the older audience wouldn't do.it as much, but MTG players are bad about doing it too.

source: run a card shop with my dad, seen a lot of shit
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>>375593467
It was for a while.

I thought it represented growth because she no longer had an inflated opinion of herself and is willing to start from scratch even after the scandal.
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>>375593545
>MTG players
Really? I've never seen anyone be chuuni about that shit, but then again, I only play with friends
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>>375586138
Fuck Ryuji is my best friend forever.
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>>375593586
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>mfw teasing Makoto in all romance events
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>>375593545
It's a lot more fun than playing with min-maxing autists
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>>375593640
Accurate.
I dropped Ryuji so hard as soon as it became apparent Yusuke was the best boy in 5.
He's so perfect.
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>>375593640
Can Yusuke do 3k on a boss with charge
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>>375593723
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>>375593824
Persona at her computer
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>Start NG+
>obviously stomp all over Kamoshida's Palace in like half an hour
>only supports available are Ryuji and Takemi
I remember there being more options than this
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>>375583160
kids loves robots
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I dating her to get near her sister
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I want Ryuji to fuck Ann so he can get an eternal one up on Morgana
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>>375593545
>not fucking around and having fun
It's just a game.
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Hey Morgana! What's up bro? Why the frown pussy cat?
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>>375593972
Play baseball and read. Tae is also an option, I think.
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>>375594096
>>375594056
>romancing somebody because you want to cuck your cat
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Canon ships:

Joker+Makoto
Ryuji+Ann
Yusuke+Futaba
Haru+Fiance
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>>375594056
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>>375594158
Delete this
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>>375583160
I have no clue who this character even is without Googling him.
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so what do your final Makoto skill builds look like?

I always fret about having to choose 8 skills
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>>375583509
>safe

I wish you lived next door to me so I could keep you up all hours with Flo Rida and Maroon 5, you preening fucking wannabe taste-haver. Yuck.
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>He gets back to Leblanc
>All his bruises just disappear
>No one says anything about the fact he had the shit beaten out of him and dosed before Sae turned up

His friends could atleast pretend they care.
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>>375594158
I don't get a romantic vibe between Futaba and Yusuke. It's more like Yusuke is the second least normie person so she can bully him.
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>>375594372
They're both eccentrics and tease each other constantly, giving up potential tsundere vibes
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>>375594370
He's a big boy
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>>375593254
absolutely perfect
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With plans to move in with her after coming back to Tokyo, I wonder how everyone would react aside from Ryuuji being his usual self.
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>>375592152
Wait a second...
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>>375593254
>tfw no chuuni gf
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>>375594158
Haru deserves someone who loves her.
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>>375593831
yusuke is for midgame
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>>375594056
>Morgana has a hissy fit and makes me chase him through Mementos for 10 minutes
>I'm supposed to feel bad for him
Ryuji did literally nothing wrong. If you can't handle the banter, you don't belong.
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>>375594129
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>>375591856
>>375592180
>>375592340
>>375592440
>Being named Makoto automatically makes you best girl.
Brothers of taste
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>>375594680
>Shits on Ryuji all day
>Ryuji actually fires Back
>Cat considers suicide and runs away

Still mad
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>romancing qts is extremely easy in videogames
>literally impossible irl

WHAT did they mean by this?
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>Ann has to barely keep herself from murdering Kamoshida, who's biggest crime was assault and sexual harassment
>Ann is totally willing to forgive Akechi, murdering scumbag who has offed at least two known innocents but probably at least hundreds more

defend this personafags
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Was there some point during one of the chats where she mentioned that she had a motorcycle license or did I just imagine that?
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>>375590414
>that disappointed look
MY EVERYTHING!
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>>375594680
Ryuji does fucking EVERYTHING wrong.

When he had two good ideas in the same cutscene when trying to infiltrate Shido's Palace I honestly thought someone had infiltrated the group using a Ryuji skin-mask.

The first six months of the game consist of

>Everything is going great!
>Ryuji fucks it up

On a fucking LOOP.
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>>375594943
She does, yes.
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>tfw best girl got reduced to a social link
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>>375594920
Akechi had a hard life.
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>>375594979
No he didn't
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>>375593410
I liked him at first because he really showed support with the phantom thieves site but then i got to the Hawaii trip to reveal that he ONLY talks about the phantom thieves.

>>375593831
Baton pass to him and I'm damn sure he can
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>>375594968
Poor Hifumi
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>>375594883
>Lots of plot and external factors lead to his running away
>Thinking it was because of Ryuji
>Still talking shit like you actually understood the plot

>>375594920


Goro represents the way bad adults can fuck up a kid the most. He was certainly accountable for his actions but the reason for everything was that he was a victim of evil adults using him and shaping him to be who he became.


Do you retards even pay attention to the stories you bitch about?
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What is Makoto trying to convey here?
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>>375594158
The cat dies
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>>375594965
So I wasn't crazy.
The whole time I expected to see her riding one in the real world at least once.
If you're going to bring things up then you have to show them.
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>>375594158
>He thinks Atlus will go with anyone but The Lovers arcana for canon pairing

Oh sweet summer child.
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>>375595060
The pleasure of being cummed inside.
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>>375593419
I'd say Haru is more popular than Futaba and Ann.
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>>375594945
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Would Makoto make a good wife?
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>>375595157
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>>375595131
IIRC it's right after she gets Johanna. It's just there to explain why she has a bitching bike.
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>>375593410
I like Mishima.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12870520
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>>375595194
CUTE
U
T
E
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>>375595150
>Ginko got time reset
>Yukari didn't win shit
>Rise didn't win and don't even pretend otherwise without real proof

yeah the lovers sure do have a great track record.
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>>375595158
She isn't. There's a few vocal people about her around here, but that's no indication of her actual popularity. She's definitely the least popular party member, which isn't really her fault, it's the fact that she barely has a presence in the game that's the problem.
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>avoid /v/ for the three weeks it takes me to complete the game
>assume all the threads are full of shitposters calling the game bad or saying P4 was better
>or of retards calling it a waifu game when P3 has steadily been the most subversive japanese game franchise since 2
>come back to this shit

like fucking clockwork
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>>375595158
Actually, popularity poll wise it's Makoto > Futaba > Ann > Haru.

Makoto is actually the second most popular character out of the Phantom Theives.
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>>375593410
>>375593359
>Wanting used goods

you know Kamoshida and his footlong pounder were ruining her holes for anyone else
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>>375594818
whoa it's almost as if Makoto is a gender neutral name that's often used for female characters that share a ton of traits with one another
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>>375595331
Not just the Thieves, but second most popular character overall now that Goro's fallen out of favor.
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>>375593409
mmmmm Spats
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>>375593410
Mishima is such an autistic faggot. Worst S.Link in franchise history.
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>>375594158
>Joker+Makoto
>Ryuji+Ann
Acceptable.

>Yusuke+Futaba
I don't really see it, but people seem to like it, and I've seen some cute fanart, so why not.

>Haru+Fiance
Yooooooo nigga what'chu doin'
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>>375595413
>>375593526
>>375595031
>People too retarded to realize how good the mishima S link is

His is one of the best in the series.
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>>375594905
That we should accept our loneliness and wait to either die or for Thirds to come along so we don't have to bother with "Dating".
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>>375583160
Bitch doesn't want to be called Witch, fucking damnit.
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>>375595441
Elaborate.
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>>375595441
You only like him because he's an autistic nobody like you.
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>>375595328
Honestly, why even bother coming back? You knew what was waiting for you. Did you really want to say "I knew it" that badly?
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>>375595376
>Goro's fallen out of favor.
Rused to popularity death.
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>>375594943
A regular license
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>>375595537

Like XP? He gives you a fuck load of XP. Doesn't make him not a twat though.
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>>375595537
It shows that despite wanting to be a 'good person' mishima clings to the one thing that he feels gives him an identity and a purpose, and he lets both consume him because it's the first time he feels vested in something and has a reason to wake up in the morning basically.He's not suppose to be liked by anyone because he doesn't even like himself.


@375595546

No yous for retards
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>>375594214
>Not "eff that"

Fucking king of missed opportunities
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>>375595376
>Goro's fallen out of favor
Thank god
Maybe now Atlus will drop their obvious plans to have him magically survive so he can show up in all the spinoffs
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>>375595619
>No yous for retards
triggered hard lmao
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>>375595668
>The P5AG.jp domain will go forever unused
Disheartening.
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>>375590029
Didn't hit me until the other day that Princess Leia had something similar.
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But I don't like her. Shit hairs, shit personality and writing (her joining arc was abyssal bad), has Mikoto's voice, and is overall boring. Her persona's style and visual/costume literal don't fit her

When they set her up to be inferior than her sister, they really meant it.
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>>375595619
Nothing mindblowing. He's just a nobody who got some delusions of grandeur for like 5 whole minutes.
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>>375595328
So who did you waifu?
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>>375595773
>Uses the name Akira
>Thinks his opinion matters
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>>375595815
Not my pic
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>>375595668
>implying they won't return his likeness
PQ2, some shadow taking his identity, got to milk the train if necessary
Least better boys are on top now.
>>375595723
Stands for Advanced Generation
>>
Beelzebubbros, where we at?
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>>375595773
>His Arsene isn't built entirely out of skill cards from DLC personas
>His Arsene isn't made out of stolen personas from previous entries
Poor form.
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>>375595773
>Psycho Force
>Atomic Flare
>Megidolaon
>Just Eigaon
I feel like this could be included in one of those "Just short of completion" montages designed to make people uncomfortable.
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Help! This thief stole my heart without using the metaverse!
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>>375583160
the boring fans want her because she's vanilla and miss perfect.
the perverted fans want to be kaneshiro in the bad end.
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>>375595931
Of course he did.
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>>375595929
Giving Arsene Cadenza makes Orpheus actually useful for once.
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>only chick with hips and no Hank Hill ass
>not my personality type
It hurts
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>tfw they fucked up Ohya's design
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>>375596097
She's the most boring class prez I ever seen.
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>>375583160
Contrast to the rest, mostly. She's basically the only girl that actually gets any amounts of non-generic character outside of handful of slink cutscenes. Modulate this by the fact that she's a member of the main team and the fact that she has the best body and there's really nothing left to say.
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>you can't romance the newspaper club girl
Fuck everything.
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>>375596086
>When the cafe owner that has to deal with your ass becomes a father figure
>When you are closer with the ex-yakuza who runs a shady store then your own biological father

What the fuck is the deal with his parents?
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>>375596086
Best boy
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>>375596135
From where are you guys pulling these concept arts from?
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>>375583509
>It's clearly trying to pander to normalfaggots by being 'anime but semirealistic'
I showed a screenshot to a normalfaggot and his first reaction was “why the fuck are the eyes so far apart?”. I don't think it's trying to be “semi-realistic” at all.
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>>375596135

I actually like her design, the problem is she's just useless for anything outside of an Arcana Burst. Her skills are flat out useless.
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>>375596221
From the artbook
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>>375596135
While I like the bottom right design a lot it doesn't feel very Persona-ish to me. Seems more like a design you'd see in SMTIV.
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>>375596086
Daddy
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>>375589732
The existence of fast travel seriously degraded Persona 5 for me.
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>Not going with the best Sae option
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>>375596221
Want a link buddy? https://e-hentai.org/g/1054078/ad8f0100c8/
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>>375596234
Shes good for levelling charm though.
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>>375596290
>>375596218
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>>375596273
>smoking
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>>375595931
Joker is great, easily the best boy in the game
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>>375596192
>any amounts of non-generic character
She's the most generic character in the game
>mary sue that cling to you when scared
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>>375596297
Reminds me of Shinji
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>>375596207
>can't romance the stalker
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>They could've prevent Haru's 5head
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>>375596259
Every Persona has fast travel.
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>>375596284
Thanks
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Also best Kamoshida design
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>>375596234
The only plus to her design is that it's a funny little visual pun.
Otherwise she's just Yukiko with short hair.
The big orange eyes and black hair make her look like a fly.
A BAR FLY.
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>>375596373
Goddamn it Atlus
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>>375596373

She looks like the main girl from Koe no Katachi.
I'm fine with that.
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>>375596373
Cute but looks too young to be Haru
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>>375596373
>Topmost design
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>>375596397
Nah, best kamoshida design was the one in release.

Guy who looks like he could be handsome but still comes off as a gross creep
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>>375596135
>>375596373
5head is superior, these concepts in comparison to the final products prove such.

>>375596397
He looks way too much the part of a generic hentai rapist coach. I'd say the contrast of him actually looking the part of an appealing Olympian on the outside while being a total PoS on the inside works much better.
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>>375596397
That guy looks too much like a rapist.
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>you'll never find your own Makoto in life
Why even bother living?
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I have to go to bed but I love mai waifu Makoto
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>>375596576
There really is not point
>>
She's slightly autistic and cute as well. What's not to love.
She also doesn't have as much baggage as Futaba does.
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>>375596284
>All the concept arts are better than the final result

Soejima is such an hack. You won't magically end up with something better if you overdesign it.
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She's an autistic virgin with no personality. Hey, that sounds familiar. Beta virgins don't want women with personality because they wouldn't even consider looking at them. They want a plank they can walk over. Anyone with actual taste and personality would choose someone that has actual fire like Tae.
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>>375596647
>What's not to love.
A pandering character engineered for otaku money
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>>375595441
His S Link is unintentionally hilarious
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>>375596656
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>>375596373
The fivehead is cute. I would not change a single thing about Haru!
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>>375596725
Complaining about a character being too idealized in a fucking animu waifu dating sin is retarded. They're all idealized as hell to make otaku bucks.
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>>375594370
My headcanon is that he got patched up by Tae on his way back.
>No one says anything about the fact he had the shit beaten out of him and dosed before Sae turned up
Wrong, Makoto mentions it.
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>>375596959
The best again
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>>375586054
You are incredibly stupid.
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Makoto = autistic
/v/ = autistic

Simple
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>>375597125
Hey if it works
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>>375595773
>tfw forced to fuse Arsene in the very beginning
I never even resummoned him either, I think I should try and catch up
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>come in expecting to love Futaba because she's Yuuki Aoi and a kawaii af nerd
>she's still good but even by the end she still feels more like a platonic little sister
>end up liking Makoto more
>realize it's because she's the mom of the group and is basically an adult mentally
>realize I'm getting old

dammit
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>>375596373
>It looks better
Fuck.
>>375596514
Nah man, if they wanted Haru's 5head, they should go for that sketch where she tied her head back with those two bangs. More forehead but it's cuter.
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>>375597225
see
>>375592771
>>375592757
>>375592629

best family
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>>375597225
you are a gay

but i respect your opinion
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>>375597225
I first played P3 when i was in high school
Now I've graduated from college and just finished P5 yesterday night
I realized that I'll never find my own Makoto and grow up with her
Why even bother?
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>>375596725
Everything appeals to some sort of fetish or forbidden relationship

Banging a teacher/maid
Banging a doctor
Banging a perfectly engineered neet to appeal to retards on 4chan. Throw some shades of incest too if you'd like, as futaba is pretty much your little sister

The majority of people like makoto because she's stable and not some retarded fantasy for 18yo and under
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>>375597225
yeah pretty much
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>>375597416
You forgot the most generic of them all
>banging the perfect class president that looks mature and intelligent but is in fact a overly cute dork that needs protection
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>>375597416
>not some retarded fantasy for 18yo and under

she doesn't exist anon

none of them do
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>>375597225
But she hardly acts motherly at. Unless your mom just spewed exposition at you when you were young.
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>>375594158
>Haru+Fiance
>Not Haru+Goro
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>>375597626
My mother did that all the time.
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>>375597656
Goro is ded
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>>375597656
Never got this pushed ship
>hey I killed you dad
>oh fuck me now
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>>375597698
Better with a redeeming corpse rather than a rapist asshole fiancee
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>>375597656
This pairing legitimately makes me upset.
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>>375597698
>Goro is ded
>Didn't actually see him get shot
>Is prime Arena material

yeah right
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>>375597802
Arena can take place during the Casino palace
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>girl
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>>375597736
Don't you think that his daddy is innocent. He's also got blood on his hand too anon
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>>375594413
How it's teasing? They don't even like each other.

They literally say this over the chat.

Shipfags are cancer.
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>>375597879
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>>375597879
That's a pretty small head
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>>375597921
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>>375597953
What a stupid pairing.
post more.
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>>375597970
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>>375598000
Got it
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>>375598023
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>>375596691
This. Every girl is marketed towards different people, Makoto is aimed at basement dwellers and that's what most waifufags are. That's why Makoto is the most popular.

How Makotofags act only reinforces that theory.
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mirin my vape, /v/?
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>>375598000
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never got over their submissive girl phase
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>>375593183
Yeah it was refreshing and cute. If Sadayo didn't already steal my heart by her illegal activities involving a student, I'd woe Haru. Maybe next game
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>>375583160
Vanilla forced waifu who combines the most popular attributes of previous popular girls. She's shilled as hell yet generally endearing and isn't ugly yet isn't attractive enough to be threatening. Also her main competition are a girl seen as a slut, a NEET and a girl who doesn't show up till too late for many to get attached.
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>>375598067
>>375598023
>>375597970
>>375597921
>>375597879

can you stop
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>>375598175
Delete this.
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>>375597416
>not some retarded fantasy
HAW
Every single girl in the game is an idealized waifu made to sell the game to otaku.
Which is fine and all, hell I have my favorite girl like everyone else, but don't fool yourself into thinking any of them are more "respectable" than any of the others.
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>>375598079
>t. buttmad taefag looking for his shitty waifu to get some attention


Seen it time and again ever since september. Waifufags get extremely jealous of someone else's popularity
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best girl
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>>375598094
Futaba shit girl
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>>375597879
>>375597921
>>375597970
>>375598023
>>375598067
>>375598245
YAMERO
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>>375598338
You can't tell me with a straight face that banging your teacher or doctor, something that is only proper for horny highschoolers, is in the same level of banging makoto, hifumi, haru or even ann

Those are not childish fantasies
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>>375598453
What if someone likes the teacher or doctor for their personality or looks and not just their jobs?
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>>375597416
Since when is banging a doctor a fantasy?
Are doctors off limits or something? Is it unrealistic to date a doctor? Hell same with a teacher.
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>>375598531
Can't the same be said about makoto, or any of the others? of course it can't

We're talking about traits and tropes here. If your teacher is not only hot and.... well, a teacher, but ALSO a maid, don't you think that's a bit too much on the fantasy thing? not to mention that she offers "special services" that get you teased since you're young and she's not allowed to perform

Not to mention the goth, slutty doctor that treats you like a dominatrix and 'experiments' on you while you behave like a good boy (and I'm not making these words up; text messages are mostly of this caliber of speech)

Those two really stand out in particular. I really like them too, of course, but when you see these retarded shitposters unironically cherrypicking traits to shit on certain girls, it usually urges me to remind them that not all the girls are in the same level of idealization

>>375598774
Refer to the above, plus every porn video ever where the patient gets a boner and she needs to calm it or some shit like that
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>>375596381
That justifies the mechanic how?
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>>375599006
If you had to walk to the station every day to go anywhere you would be complaining just as much.
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>>375599052
Then how come I'm still enjoying walking around town in Yakuza 0 after 70 hours of gameplay?

Instead of implementing fast travel in Persona 5 they should have removed the stupid mechanic where every single activity you do had to be preceded by going to the horoscope slut followed by the velvet room; then you wouldn't actually need to travel as much as you do.
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>>375598000
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>>375598939
>If your teacher is not only hot and.... well, a teacher, but ALSO a maid, don't you think that's a bit too much on the fantasy thing?
Difference with that is that it is based on physical attributes/fetishes. Sadayo being a hot teacher/nurse doesn't really affect her personality that much. Meanwhile most of Makoto's appeal is largely based around her personality traits or otherwise non-physical attributes.

In a matter of speaking, it's a difference of fanservice that plays to the penis and fanservice that plays to the heart. The latter is what waifubait tends to be based more around.
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>>375598364
>Takemi
>Take mi
>Take me
Of course!
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>>375598774
>Since when is banging a doctor a fantasy?
For doctors specifically, I think a big part of it is the attraction to the idea of having your body inspected. It's not too uncommon for a doctor to have you unclothe parts of yourself, or inspect your genitals etc.; and for some people being “ordered around” and touched with instruments etc. like that triggers immense feelings of pleasure. I used to always get it as a kid, but I was too young to understand it.

Of course, in real life it's about as realistic as massage parlor porno, and popping a stiffy or expecting anything other than a professional, impersonal relationship in either situation would get you serious disapproval; but that's what separates fantasy from reality after all.
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>>375599482
Note that Tae in particular plays really, REALLY heavily into this stereotype since she's almost canonically a sadist/femdom; and expereicnes copious amount of pleasure in experimenting on you, inspecting your body, and ordering you around - which is the exact thing that would trigger any submissive. (Speaking from personal experience, Tae got me all tingly on more than one occasion)
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>Cute
>Smart
>Nice voice
>Second best PT outfit
>Insanely useful party member
>Her rage is hot
>I identify with some of the shitty parts of her life

People calling her the autopilot choice actually pisses me the fuck off when she actually just hit a lot of checkmarks for me.
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>>375586054
>The thief guild is supposed to be a wagon of outcasts and she's just a super rich girl from high class

Did you lose yourself in shitposting and start talking about Haru?
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>>375583160
Fattest ass.

Also cucking her bitch sister feels good.
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>>375599745
>Second best PT outfit
That's Joker with Haru being first.
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>>375599874
This guy gets it.
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>>375599745
She is the autopilot choice though, sorry. She's not only forced on you the hardest but she's also arguably the most bland girl in the game. Also Sae is hotter.
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>>375599936

Every girl is forced on you, Persona does this.
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>>375599936
Ann is lovers, therefore she's the autopilot choice. Same with 4 and 3.
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>>375599936
This is an autopilot butthurt statement if I've ever seen one
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>>375599745
>>375599745
>Smart
Like any Persona game she just restates the shit everyone else says.
>Second best PT outfit
Joker, Haru, Goro, and Ryuji's are better. Her stupid mask really brings her down.
>Insanely useful party member
She's worse at every role than every other party member. Ann's a better mage, Mona's a better healer, both Yusuke and Ryuji are better damage dealers and defenders.
>Her rage is hot
And non-existent once you complete her dungeon.
>I identify with some of the shitty parts of her life
Sorry you're a robot.
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>>375599907

Gets what? Being wrong?

-Joker
-Queen
-Skull
-Oracle
-Noir
-Fox
-Panther
-Mona

Yusuke would go up like two tiers if he didn't have the tail.
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>>375599745
Great taste, Anon.
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>>375600150
>Fox
>Without a tail
What the fuck
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>>375600150
That is some dumpster tier taste.
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>>375600115

>my opinion is right, yours is wrong.

Fuck off dildo
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>>375600212
Naah man Joker deserves to be on the top, he's stylish as fuck.
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>>375600150
>Yusuke would go up like two tiers if he didn't have the tail.
The problem with Fox is the white collar, not the tail.
Queen's mask brings her down HARD, it's ugly and actively pulls away from her outfit.
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>>375600020
Ann is the least forced on you. The game pretty much treats you as just friends in nearly every scenario regardless of your status. She's also too flirty and outgoing, which equals slut in waifu terms.
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>>375600248
I was talking about the rest of the list.
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>>375600205
>>375600212

I get why it's there, but it still looks silly.
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>>375600115

Man she and goro are the only two people that understood the cognition world as soon as it's explained to them, already better than "I can't wrap my head around it" duo Ryuji and Ann.

Biker thug is much better than plain thug dont even contest the two. It goes Haru > Joker > Makoto/Goro > Morgana/Ann > Futaba/Ryuji.

She has a decently rare weakness, nuclear hits a lot of end game for either neutral and weakness, almost never encounters a mob that will absorb it also (Fucking everyone absorbs fire end game, Ann is obsolete). It's the fact she can swap between healing and damaging that makes her so good. Morg's role is literally being on the bench healing, you never think "OH FUCK I SHOULDVE HAD MORG FOR HIS GARU SKILLS!"
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>>375600273
The problem with Fox's outfit is that it doesn't go well with a Japanese outlaw from Edo period like Goemon IMO. I also can't see the connection with Kabuki.
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>>375600273
I don't mind the tail, but the blue rubber gloves looks so stupid

also, Queen's mask is one of the best you pleb
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>>375600630
Morgana has Miracle Punch which is great for taking down enemies without weaknesses and the late game treasure demons that are all just crit roulettes.
I still used Makoto more though because frankly he has too much healing for his own good. You don't need anything more than Mediarahan and a bunch of items.
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>>375600928
>the late game treasure demons that are all just crit roulettes.

Just use gun down.
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>>375600991

>Just waste ammo

How about I don't?
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>>375600991
Ah, yeah, fair enough.
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>>375601016
>baw treasure demons are all crit roulettes
>"but there is a guaranteed way to knock them down"
>muh ammo!

Are you mentally retarded? It's not like you actually need ammo for anything, if you need to abuse gun weakness just use a gun skill. If you need more ammo just craft ammo aches at your table and with tower confidant maxed gun down uses very little ammo in the first place.
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It's almost like she's a genuinely good character or something.

And chiefags can't handle that.
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>>375601016
Level up the tower slink faggot
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>>375601016
You know you can summon it again from the compendium for peanuts right?
Make some ammo refills in class if you're that autistic.
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>>375600630
Being a versatile character in an RPG just makes you bad at all the roles. Her strongest melee ability is weaker than both Yusuke's and and Ryuji's the moment you get her. Her nuke abilities mean little when she has nothing in terms of magical ability, making it only really helpful for technical damage. Her healing is always behind Mona's, both in magic and in actual skills. She's not even good defensively because Haru has the only defensive skills that are worth anything.
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>>375586153
>best ass
I can see why /v/ likes her
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I'M AN ASS MAN
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>>375601575
You fucking know it my man
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>>375601575

That ass is freakishly big. Like its almost disgusting.
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>>375600853
I like the steel mask, but on the other hand her outfit looks incredible when she has the mask off

See>>375599745
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>>375601652
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>>375601702
>>375601652
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>tfw eating month old Makoto donuts and washing it down with some master coffee I had kawakami brew 3 months ago

Nothing better to restores SP than old stale food.
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>>375597216
You weren't forced to though. They didn't make you fuse him in particular. You could have fused anything.
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>>375594372
>>375597913
Why do futabafags get this defensive when some anonymous ships her with anyone else than joker or sees her as imouto material?
Jesus christ
Or is it just one fag making all memesquidders look bad?
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>Romance Makoto
>No special conversations during Palace infiltrations/dungeon crawling
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>>375595131
Here you go.
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>>375601763

If you date Futaba something is wrong with you mentally. She is like a little sister.
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>>375601240
Makoto is literally Chie.
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>>375595131
Persona 5 golden baby
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>>375583301
Makoto is objectively the best partner if we're talking about long-term relationship.

Also, Ann is worse than Futba in respect to being exclusively for the braindead.
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>>375601819
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>>375601853
crimson*
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>>375601805
Its probably also to explain why she's the one driving you home in the end. Everyone else but Haru is too young to have a license right?
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>>375601884
I thought you had to be 18 in Japan
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>>375595131
That's because she doesn't have a motorcycle license.
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>>375596086
I literally just started the Shido dungeon countdown and I'm still at guts 4 and can't continue his link, jesus why the hell are there barely any places to raise guts, I've already used the books, wait do video games need to be completed to raise stats or are they like movies?
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>>375601903
Dude I have no fucking idea. But she is usually the driver in scenes that involve driving.
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>>375601936

Go to electric ave and visit the shop that sells games.
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>>375595282
>The State of Annfags
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>>375601884
Haru is the same age as Makoto isnt she. they're both 3rd year seniors.
Haru just rich with her own driver and shit
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>>375601869
He's right, you know
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>>375601851
"If I say it enough, it'll totally be true!"

Fuck off, loversfag.
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>finish my ng+ run
>gonna have to go through a 3rd time to plat
>maybe even a 4th if I fuck up and dont have enough time
This game is going to kill me.
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>>375602069
Chie fags are really this mad that they have the more boring character again, huh.
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>>375601662
fuck off Ireland.
>>375601652
>can't romance Sae
She has just as good as an ass.
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>Haru complaining in Mementos about how hard it is to see
>Ryuji says something about it being better to not depend on sight but rather feel enemies and quotes "Don't think, feel"

kek
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>>375602090
>caring about 100% a game
It's your own fault. Stifle your autism.
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>>375601664
Look at it this way, she can never wear it while riding her motorcycle. Hey I wonder if that's the main reason why they didn't give her a biker helmet or something, because it'd be completely useless while she's on the bike.
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>>375601819
>dating little sister is bad
I need reddit to go home.
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>>375602173
It's almost like it's a popular quote about fighting or something.
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>>375602009
One of the funniest moments in the game was when they were doing the "Oh Joker's dead, show everyone being sad" scene and Haru was just stuck in heavy traffic in her limousine being annoyed by her fiance, that must have been torture for her.
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>>375602293
Are all chariot arcanas secretly Bruce Lee fans?
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>>375583160
>Why does /v/ like this girl so much?

Makoto is a fun killer.
/v/ hates fun because it's full of awkward kissless virgins.
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>>375601016
What are you gonna use ammo for that's more important than capturing a rare pokemon?
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>>375599745
I also relate to Makoto on some level. Specifically disregarding everything for high grades for no real purpose other than to please other people.
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>>375601520
It makes her the best healer, because when she's not healing she can do everything else pretty well, and she's tanky unlike Morgana whose made of glass. She's like Robo in chrono trigger
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>>375601258
>Tower slink
Not him but I went my whole playthrough without even meeting the tower confidant. The fuck did I do wrong?
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>>375601819
It's not that dating her because she's your little sister is bad. It's that she's mentally fucked up and it'd feel like Joker would be taking advantage of her if he fucked her. It'd be like fucking the retarded kid you're baby sitting or something.
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>>375601016
Nigger you should have a seth which has one-shot kill by end game if you bothered to do the strength confidant, so wasting ammo shouldn't be a big deal for you when you and Haru can cover gun damage when dealing with anything that's weak to it.
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>>375602398
Kazushi isn't.
Does Ryuji show any interest in kung-fu movies at all?
I mean you don't need to be a Bruce Lee fan to quote something so prominent like "Don't think, feel."
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>>375602530
It's activated through one of the Mementos quests.
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>>375602485
>she can do everything else pretty well
if by "pretty well" you mean "any other party member would be better for this situation" you're right.
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>>375602530
you didnt listen to the gossip, telling you to hit the arcade
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>>375602341
>tfw watching that cutscene while dating Haru at rank 9
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>>375602173
>Don't think
t. ryuji all right
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>>375602639
>>375602601
I completed every mementos quest except that one involving the arcade, because I couldn't figure out how to start it. Every NPC you talk to at the arcade just says something generic, and as far as I can tell there's also no way to work at the arcade. I gave up after like half an hour of trying to figure out how to identify the culprit.
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>>375602727
Shut up, useless cat
You can't even handle the bantz
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>>375583160
She's just a improved Mitsuru
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>>375602857
She's a slightly smarter Chie.
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>>375602857
True
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>>375602840
The guy you were looking for was in Akihabara not in Shibuya
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>>375602906
Smart motorcycle-driving student council president who takes a leadership role in the group dynamic

Sounds like Chie to me
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I want to kidnap Hifumi!
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>>375602856
Joke's on you, I hated both ryuji and the cat
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>>375603006
I want hifumo to pee in my mouth while she goes full chuuni edgelord on me
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>>375602994
>Her idea of justice is beating the shit out of things
Yep, pure Chie.
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>>375603138
What a lame comparison, Titsuru does the same thing. You could've at least gone with "short hair and fights with fists"
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>>375603138
Just stop
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>>375602994
Yeah, that girl that want's to be a cop to protect her friends and love ones, that loves action movies and has an entire S.link that is only about protecting someone else is surely nothing like Chie who are a girl that wanted to be a cop to protect her friends and loved ones, loved action movies, and had an s.link that was entierly about protecting someone else.
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That fucking Kawakami
Guess she looks too similar to Tae or something?
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>>375601520

MC is literally the best character in the party because he's versatile.... Versatile characters are great in RPGs.

Golden Sun 1, Mia is arguably the best party member because she has both access to great heal and good water elemental damage.

Pokemon - Salamence/Lucario/Charizard are great picks because they can be mixed attackers so they can throw off opponents.

Paper Mario - Watt has an average damage output but it always ignores armor, has a buff and can stun enemies. Literally versatile in every field.

Chrono Trigger - Robo is amazing, almost everyone that runs through the game agrees. Tank, Healer, Damage all in one.

I could go on with JRPGS. Almost all the bad characters in JRPGS are characters that specialize in one field (AKA Atsuro Devil Survivor 1 before the remake)
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I never found Makoto useful.
By the time I got her I already had three Nuke persona's, she didn't have any good melee skills, she didn't have any good defense skills, and she didn't have any good healing skills.

She just sits on the bench until Ann, Ryuji, Mona or Yusuke needs to regen SP in the reserves.
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>>375603291
MC doesn't have stats of his own. He has Persona and you never make a persona to be versatile because they'll be terrible at their job. You tailor a persona to do a specific thing because that's the only way they'll be good. Are you that fucking retarded?
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>>375603407

Are you retarded?
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>>375603407

MC is literally the epitome of being versatile. That's what a fucking wild card means.
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Does anyone else always equip Makoto with Divine Pillar?
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>>375603340
She's pretty meh until you get to 41 and have access to Media. Afterwards I never really used Morgana either because why the fuck would you. He's nice for those punches to down the stronger enemies for interrogation, but that's it. I mean I guess he gets Salvation, which is nice, but it's completely unneccessary because at that point there's nothing that poses any danger to you anyway.
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>>375603545

Dunno but Makoto could deal magic damage, up defense for whole party, and heal.

She was a good character. Dunno why this autismo in this thread is so hell bent on smearing her.
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>>375600115
Morgana a shit healer. Maybe not on normal where everything is fine but an electric weakness is fucking trash and you can only get evade at the very end because his SL is story driven. Energy shower is better than me patra because the ailments it heals are more severe. Only sleep prevents you from moving but 4 out of 5 ailments that energy shower heals prevent movement so its much better to have more than one person being able to heal it. Salvation comes too late to matter and is expensive as fuck anyway that is not needed most of the time. Party defense buff is much better than enemy agi aoe debuff. Nuke is a better element than wind.

Versatility is VERY useful in persona 5, why the fuck do you think people love the Star confidant so much? Because it allows them to quickly adapt to the battle. You never need to switch out makoto because she is always good and can always do something useful.
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>>375601520
It makes her a tanky healer, much better than Morgana who can't tank shit and can inflict dizzy regularly with her flash bomb which sets up technical damage for all who follow
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>>375593760
>>375593831
>>375593640
Yusuke is the kind of character you know is not the best but you just have to bring him with you because his personality is just so cool
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>>375603554
I've kept mona around because of his healing and aliment healing, and his punch. He also works well with Ann because his wind can tech off of burn, which Ann gets a fair amount when it comes to deamons without any weaknesses.

But basically right now it's Mona for healing and some reasonably consistent crit downs
Ann for magical damage and status ailments
Ryuji for melee, focused on group
Yusuke for melee on a single target, and his okay ice attacks
Haru for defense and massive gun damage (though gun damage is also how I've been tending to make my "main" persona's as well, so her ability for that is less helpful) and tech damage.
Makoto's just kind of the odd one out in my party. I feel like she should have been the other half for healing with Ann or something, which kind of works since nuke can tech off of burn as well. But her lack of lucky/miracle punch and status healing just makes her less attractive to me.
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>>375603407

>Switching between personas in the heat of battle isnt being versatile.

We got a retard here guys.
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>>375595031
>Baton pass to him and I'm damn sure he can
To match Ryuji for pure physical damage you need to baton pass to Yusuke and use one of his Baton pass boosted attacks. So you have to get a crit for Yusuke to be ass effective as Ryuji just using charge.
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>>375600115
>She's worse at every role than every other party member. Ann's a better mage, Mona's a better healer, both Yusuke and Ryuji are better damage dealers and defenders.

Looks like someone's playing on easy/normal.

She's by far the best defender in the game. She's by far the best support character in the game, and doesn't even have competition until Haru joins the party, and even then she's just way more useful. She can get 95% of Ann's damage plus she's a much better healer and a lot sturdier. She's a much better support than Mona, the only thing Mona has on her is recarm/Sameracarm but 1) Mona is usually the one that dies first cause he's made of straw, so good luck with your healer being constantly down, and 2) Makoto still wins the trade-off because instead she has support spells that help the team not die in the first place, which is much more valuable than recarming a downed teammate.


She's literally a lock for higher difficulties and the objectively best partiy has her as a member.
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>>375603407

>Oh this persona has nuke amp! Better use up all 9 slots just for nuke skills. Having a selection of different elemental attacks is retarded. The correct way to make a persona is to focus on it's single pro!
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>>375583160
>biggest SP pool
>second biggest HP pool
How can other healers even compete?
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>>375604481
Yes, that's how it works if you want to actually kill things above normal.
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>>375604495
By being able to heal more than one character for more than a fifth of their health.
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>>375604559
I wouldn't go that far, but it's optimal.
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>>375596831
I want to kiss Haru multiple times on her fivehead!
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>>375604681
I want to do this and also hold hands with her and shamelessly tell her she's beautiful.
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>>375604481
That dude is wrong overall, but on that point he's correct. Specialization is a lot more valuable than versatility.

The reason MC's versatility is OP is because he can be the best at EVERYTHING, by far. That's not what usually is meant when talking about versatility. Usually people mean somenone who's competent on a lot of things but can't compete with a specialist on their respective fortes.
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>>375604624
>Mediarama
>Mediarahan

>Rakukaja
>Marakukaja
???
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>>375604495
I never once ran out of SP, since I always played conservatively enough so that SP patches keep me topped up. If anything, the character with the biggest SP pool makes the best non-party healer because futaba's subrecover SP EX stores a percentage of your max SP after battles.
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>>375604495
*salvation*
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>>375593998
Fucking hell.
The girl in the original dating profile is ugly as sin though.
Her body was like a soft six though
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>>375605128
>Marakukaja

There's just no way anyone can even compete for Makoto's spot on the team.

She's by far the best healer/support in the game. She helps your team stay alive better than anyone, period. Marakukaja, Mediarahan and Energy shower plus being the bulkiest party member other than MC. Morgana cannot compete with her.
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>>375605128
You're too busy being dead from the latest party wide physical attack the boss used to cast salvation.
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>>375594129
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>>375605397
She also has dekunda in case of debuffs
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>>375604794
I want to do all of that too and also have sex with her in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation
I'll obviously take responsibility too
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>>375605397
ill take morgana and his crazy crits over boring defense girl anytime
i usually put protagonist on buff/debuff job anyway
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>>375605550
I want to raise children with her and help her realize her dream of opening a coffee shop which we would run together until we're too old to do so anymore and our children are ready to inherit the family business.
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>>375605637
You can do whatever you want, but objectively speaking, Makoto is simply a better support than her and your strattegy is very unoptimal.
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>>375605128
>implying it's a relevant skill when you have it really late game when there's no status ailments anymore
>implying Morgana can cast spells while dead

Official best team
>Ryuji buff attack + charge God hand
>Ann debuff attack + nullifiy buffs + charge + dyne
>Makoto buff defense + mediarahan + shower
>MC buff agility + charge + God hand + auto ma- buffs for early turns
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>>375605637
>not running Ryuji, Yusuke and Makoto and Marakunda on Joker
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>>375605637
>>375605397
I just played with two healers. Sure, fights go slower, but I can also conserve more SP because I can alternate who heals every turn, and/or heal in the same turn as using an item or revival spell.

Better safe than sorry in a game where some checkpoints are 1-2 hours apart.
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>>375605418
I've never actually had Mona die from a group attack or any kind. He's always dodged it, or had a sliver of health to just heal everyone back up.

Good kitty.
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>>375605418
salvation is also way too expensive to use if all you need is either healing or status recovery. Even if you have need for healing everyone and recovering the status of one guy its not that great. Revives on party members are useless because they cant revive MC so they really only have 2 revive targets.
>>375605858
This was my go to party for general dungeon clearing because its so useful and on hard/merciless you really need those buffs on random encounters too. For bossfights i usually switch out yusuke for Haru because of a better weakness and one shot kill with snipe and cripple felt a lot stronger than yusukes stuff and amrita shower is more status ailment recovery. Never bothered with the karns, you can just use Takemis items if you really need them (you don't)
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>>375605397
Maraku is good but if they add a party member with Rakunda in the expanded re-release (Hifumi please) bitch is getting booted instantly.
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>>375605813
Wrong.

this is closer to the optimal party>>375605858

Except, Mc uses debilitate.

The ptial party this time around is Makoto, Yusuke, Ryuji.

General strategy (for single enemy boss fights):

First turn:

>Debilitate
>Marakukaja
>Masukakaja
>Charge

Second turn:

>Charge
>Mediarahan
>Brave blade/Myriad Slashes
>Matarukaja

Theird turn:

>Hassou tobi/God's hand/Brave Blade/whatever
>Atomic flare/Freidyne
>Brave blade/ Myriad Slashes
>God's Hand


Repeat.
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>>375605875
Replace one of your healers with Haru. You heal less because you reflect half of everything. Fucking mirrors and shit.
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>>375606278
That's what I planned doing for my NG+ run. Haru is basically a better Morgana. (But then I realized NG+ in this game is boring as fuck)
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>>375606246
Wrong, the first one to fall if they add an enemy debuffer on the expanded release is Yusuke. And it still depends on whether or not the new member has all of the dubuffs. If he/she doesn't have ALL the dubuffs (or debilitate, which he/she won't because Goro already took it) then the optimal party remains the same.
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>>375606270
I never had access to debilitate in my first playthrough.
Might go for this in the second.
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>>375606270
>No heal on third turn
How?
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