'Breath of the NES' Shut Down by Nintendo

Why don't people just start naming fangames with original names to begin with? You can just say the game is "Inspired by" and it'll mean just the same thing.

I guarantee you if this was [insert any other videogame title here] as a romhack, it would also get shut down. But nobody else makes those because nobody gives a shit.

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STOP
FUCKING
SHOWING
OFF
YOUR
FAN
CREATION
BEFORE
RELEASING
IT
YOU
RETARDS

>>375540517
Good. It was absolute shite.

>>375540930
That's what the Mother 4 people did

>>375540961
Pokemon Prism

Although Breath of the NES's author was asking for donations. That's a big no-no with fan games.

>>375540517
Link

>>375541572
no pun intended
"send help,send link"

>make fan game
>call it a parody instead
>they can't touch you now

>>375540930
You need that brand-name boost to help increase interest.

>>375540961
Plenty of Megaman fangames are supported by Capcom.

Faggot Nintendo drone.

>>375540930
Because literally no one cares about original franchises
People are more likely to take interest in something if you piggyback off of something much more popular rather than trying to do something original

I still dont understand why these people dont just make their own IPs from the getgo. I guess they are just that unimaginative or attention thirsty.

>>375542005
They can then accuse you of trademark infringement. Parodies aren't immune from that.

>>375541082
yeah

>>375540930
>asking austists to put it in an ounce of creativity
hahahaha

I wonder how OOT 2D has escaped this fate. Maybe because their progress has slowed to a crawl.
http://www.oot-2d.com/

>CHECK OUT MY FAN GAME USING [IP]
>gib donations plz :)
>C&D'd
>CHECK OUT MY TOTALLY ORIGINAL KICKSTARTER GAME BUILT OFF OF THAT :)

>>375541000
it wasn't just shown off, it was featured article on Kotaku along with an interview.

the people were retards.

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>>375541000
Trips of truth

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>>375541091
But Mother 4 devs were never even contacted by nintendo

>>375544568
Not publicly at least.

>>375540930
>>375541000
This.

>>375540961
Also this.

>>375542653
Use stolen assets to save time on art while you flesh out the underlying engine, systems, etc knowing you'll replace the art assets
-> generate interest in fan project
-> generate free advertising from "news" outlet / discussion things due to fan outrage at original IP holders
-> capitalize on all the hype launch a crowdfunding campaign
-> have a built in interested fanbase, AND a working tech demo from your shutdown project
-> fund your "new" IP

>>375542737
As long as you're actually making parody you're fine. Otherwise the porn industry would havbe a million lawsuits for stuff like ass effect and queers of war

>>375544641
They said so in an AMA
https://www.reddit.com/r/mother4/comments/5wzfjk/todays_announcement/

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>SFM models of chaste Nintendo characters getting railed by cocks
>nothing happens

>fangame
>get fucking backhanded for being a degenerate who doesn't respect Intellectual Property laws and US Copyright

Fuck Nintendo

>>375542226
>Plenty of Megaman fangames are supported by Capcom.
Because Megaman is fucking dead. Nintendo literally made a 2D Zelda a few years ago on the 3DS.

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>>375541000
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>>375540517
>all these people doing mentel gymnastics and bending over backwards to defend Nintendo in this thread

Wew, at this point even MS has more respect for their fans, Jesus.

>>375544381
They didn't market their thing with
>HAHA DON'T C&D ME SILLY BOYS ;)))))

>>375544641
artist on that project here

we never got contacted by nintendo.

>>375544381
Isn't this the one where the creator faked his death to get away from finishing the project?

>>375540517
>Nintendo shutting down fan games
Exactly what is the reason they can do this?
If the person making it is not profiting off of it what legal precedence allows Nintendo to have it shut down?
What happens if the developers ignore the cease and desist?

>>375545671
copyright infringement

>>375545539
What's been going on lately?
Everyone's MIA

>>375545035
i did not know porn artists have featured articles and interviews on video game sites, these fan game creators are total dorks, make the game first than release it, fuck em

>>375540930
>Why don't people just start naming fangames with original names to begin with?
Because then they wouldn't get nearly enough attention. If this thing were just called Breath of Winds or something, hardly anyone would've even glanced at it. It was only because it was called Zelda: Breath of the NES that people took note, and the only reason anybody really cared.

>>375541000
Also, this.

>>375545713
Don't you know anon, asking people for "donations" to continue working on a "fangame" is totally not copy-right infringement!

>>375542653
Making whole original shit that fits that old mesh is actually really hard. Just look at the struggle stuff like Yooka-Laylee went through.
Some people just want to make a fan game cause they are actual fans and want to see their favorite characters/stories/etc. again in the same, but at least slightly updated context.

Doesn't seem to be the case for this one though.
>>375544509
>>375544902
Like how these two put it, this case just seems really sketchy/obvious.
They knew exactly what they were doing and did it all as just a PR stunt, not actually as a fan work.

>>375545762
Active members are working when they can between life stuff, discussion that goes towards development/progress happens daily on our dev channels, nobody's MIA there just hasn't been a lot said publicly.

>>375545713
Doesn't that only apply if they are profiting off of it?
If not what keeps all these people making fanart of nintendo characters out of the line of fire?

Nintendo shut this down because it looks fucking awful.

Nintendo takes a special immediacy with shutting down garbage looking productions because they feel it harms their legitimate brand.

Breath of the Nes looked fucking awful, that's why it got shut down.

>>375545671
American copyright law requires you to shut down all infringing material if you want to keep your copyright.

If lets say Sony ripped off Zelda and then can prove Nintendo knew about "Breath of the NES" but didn't enforce their copyright on them Nintendo could loose that copyright. It might seem like bullshit but it stops companies from selectively and unfairly enforcing their copyright.

>>375545951
>Nintendo takes a special immediacy with shutting down garbage looking productions because they feel it harms their legitimate brand.
Then how did Federation Force get released?

>>375545671
>If the person making it is not profiting off of it
which this person was

>>375545928
They're not though

Tumblrinas who have Patreon accounts got shot down by profiting off of their stuff last year

>>375544908
Thats why they don't call their porn movies "Mass Effect the porno", so they can avoid trademark issues. The trademark holders of "Mass Effect" do not also own "Ass Effect".

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>>375545795
>i did not know porn artists have featured articles and interviews on video game sites

Irrelevant.
Nintendo IP is being reproduced/used by another party.

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>Make game based off IP
>C&D'd

>Make game based on original IP
>No one fucking cares

What's the middle ground?

>>375540930

So they can justify reusing lots of assets from official games

>>375546325
>Tumblrinas who have Patreon accounts got shot down by profiting off of their stuff last year
So it is because of profit?
So if a fan game is made for free and the devs got no money for it Nintendo
couldn't touch them?
>>375546141
Were they?

>>375546441
There are literally Patreons for Pokemon porn artists.

>>375546123
Yakuza pressure, they had to create and promote the boss's son's metroid fanfic, just to keep a lid on what actually took place in the Nintendo Love Hotels.

>>375546330
Name helps, but you could still argue trademark for Ass Effect.

>>375546617
Asking for donations, yeh.

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>>375546675
>There are literally Patreons for Pokemon porn artists.

And they don't DMCA those persons at the rate they DMCA fan game creators.

>>375546485
Parody games

>>375546617
They had donations set up for the project.

>>375546617
>So if a fan game is made for free and the devs got no money for it Nintendo
If they see it as a threat to their sales they'll take it down

Why do you think AM2R was taken down? Not because Nintendo hates Metroid, which /v/ would have you believe, but because they still sell the original game on the eShop.

Why would somebody buy an outdated Game Boy game when they can get a superior remake for absolutely free?

>>375546485
>Make game off of an IP
>say to Ninty/Capcom/Square that they're just being used as placeholders and will eventually change
>rake in the money
Alternatively just say you've been contacted by Nintendo when you actually haven't to drum up more publicity.

>>375546884
That's right. eg: https://www.patreon.com/Reit

You can do whatever you want with Nintendo's IPs as long as they're not fan games, those are not allowed to exist.

>>375546763

well obviously, everyone knows the games are ass

>>375540517
>Author plans to continue under his own IP.
>Literally just one Zelda made to resemble another Zelda

>>375546983
what i dont get is AM2R was public up to its final release and THEN the C&D hammer dropped, the game has been worked on for years

>>375545539
>>375545915
Pixel?
Are you gonna update the Life+ blog soon?

>>375547545

no one snitched before release. not that strange m8

>>375547604
Pastel I mean fuck

>>375547650
it was PUBLIC
it had a blog for years
Demos
updates on progress

>>375547650
>no one snitched before release.
What.
Everyone knew about AM2R

>>375540517

Nice, maybe something really good can born from a not so original idea

>>375547545
Same thing happened to Prism. Although other people are continuing to develop Prism after the original author left.

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>>375540517
>>375540930
>>375540961
>>375541000

are you underdeveloped or low iq ?
this was a PR stunt by the creator
you cant be this dumb, after seeing what happens with r2 and other nintendo projects, square enix and the list goes on

who exactly wasnt expecting this
jesus fucking christ hes playing everyone and people just eat that shit

>>375547743
it was nominated for some "best fan project" award at the VGAs or some other video game award show and got hyper-public after that and then got C&D'd. Same thing happened with that pokemon uranium thing, even though nintendo is notoriously hands off with pokemon fanstuff

got too visible

>>375542396
>Because literally no one cares about original franchises

Undertale, Axiom Verge, Hollow Knight, Salt and Sanctuary, Freedom Planet, Lisa, Hyper Light Drifter, and literally hundreds more games that I can't be arsed to think about now all say hello

>>375546983
>Why do you think AM2R was taken down? Not because Nintendo hates Metroid, which /v/ would have you believe, but because they still sell the original game on the eShop.
So if my fanart is seen as a threat to official nintendo art they are going to send a cease and desist?
Where does this shit end?
>
Why would somebody buy an outdated Game Boy game when they can get a superior remake for absolutely free?
Why indeed? If nintendo can't compete with a free fangame made by one or two people it speaks volumes of their quality, perhaps they should worry less about stomping on other peoples sand castles and work on their own.

>>375546485
Just make an original game.

Seriously, does nobody remember how all the most talked about games of the last, like, five years have all been indie passion projects?
Undertale
Stardew Valley
Downwell
Binding of Isaac
FUCKING BESEIGE
Hyper Light Drifter
FTL Faster Than Light

I could go on and on and on and on.

The writing's on the fucking wall.
If you want to make a game, MAKE YOUR FUCKING GAME. There's never been a better time to be an indie dev.

There's an absolute ORGY of evidence to prove you don't need to piggyback on someone else's IP to make a game that's going to get noticed.

>>375548793
Yeah, because just changing a trademark name denotes whether something is "original" or not. Many of those games you said would not exist if they didn't base them off other popular games.

>>375548398
>Why indeed? If nintendo can't compete with a free fangame made by one or two people it speaks volumes of their quality
>Literally proves my point
>Saying a Game Boy game from the 90's is a representation of their current quality

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>>375545539
Show proof or your just bait

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>>375542396

Just like how nintendo sold a generic open world checklist game by piggybacking off the zelda franchise!!!!

>>375549445
>Saying a Game Boy game from the 90's is a representation of their current quality
Nintendo seems to think so

>>375549638
Hold up.
Are you seriously asking him for proof of something that didn't happen?

>>375549087
Sure, but you could say that about literally 95% of all video games ever made ever.

Now we're getting into the differences between homage/inspiration and straight rip-off.

>>375540517
It worked for Graal.

>>375541000
Trips fucking confirms.

Did anyone mirror the download before it was taken down?

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>>375549952
You can still be a ripoff without using the same names and characters.

>>375550271
>>375548398
>Why would somebody buy an outdated Game Boy game when they can get a superior remake for absolutely free?

>>375540517

This is a pretty clever marketing strategy. Want to make an indie game? Release the demo as a fangame first so that you can get DMCA'd and post publicly about it on twitter to get tons of angry fans to buy your original IP.

Not a bad idea at all... This guy knows what he's doing

>>375548398

IP law exists to prevent this bullshit. No one should have to Compete with people hijacking their IP and game mechanics.

>>375547265
Well, as long as Nintendo doesn't start making porn they should be fine.
And they don´t use Tumblr for posting their porn, since there they get bans, but not on Twitter or other pages.

>>375549952
And ripoffs have never been more rampant in this day and age. Look at all the shitty match-3 games and flappy bird clones made by people flooding the mobile market trying desperately to grasp onto any sort of relevancy? They all have different names but they're all the same fucking game.

At least with fan games, most of the time these people try to do different games you wouldn't see in the official licensed games. I can give them that.

>>375548308
Nobody gave a shit about any of those except undertale.

>>375550557
>Nintendo sells all the old games they used to
>Somehow that represents their entire current status
>>375550271

>>375541000
Better idea: stop making fan games you lazy fucks

>>375550803
>At least with fan games, most of the time these people try to do different games you wouldn't see in the official licensed games. I can give them that.

Some of them. But not all, the "biggest" fangames just rip the target game off wholesale.

AM2R is pretty much Zero Mission with a Metroid 2 map. Mother 4 is basically Mother 3 with Mother 1 expys.

>>375550140

was there a version past 3?

>>375550273
Now we're getting into author intent and artistic integrity, and this is where things can get dicy and definitions can get muddled.

Basically though, it comes down to intent.

Do you want people to notice your product through association, at the exclusion of all else? It's a ripoff and it's shit.

Do you want to put your own spin on an existing concept? It's artistically sound.

Any fangame that puts another IP in the title wants you to notice how similar it is to the original IP first, before noticing the actual talent that went in to creating the fangame itself, which is where all artistic integrity goes out the window.

>>375547604
Not pastel, IMP.

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>>375540517
>Makes a fangame of a game literally less than a year of the original's creation
Retard. Wait at least a year, when Nintendo got their sales numbers in
>>375540930
Because it's a "remake" of a IP. If you use Zelda characters in a game and they are the playing cast, than it's a Zelda game. The "Zelda Maker" guy had to make his own IPs to continue work on his game, for example.

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>>375540517
>Some fucking nobody announces Nintendo fan game
>gets shut down
>instant notoriety
This is brilliant

>>375540930
Its not the same thing, it never is.

There was NO reason for nintendo to do this as this dude wasnt asking for money.

Is the characters and brand what makes a fangame a fangame, using original content just makes it a game.

What nintendo does is just plain bullying, And theres no reason for that shit.

>>375551437
>Any fangame that puts another IP in the title wants you to notice how similar it is to the original IP first, before noticing the actual talent that went in to creating the fangame itself, which is where all artistic integrity goes out the window.

And it's a universal opinion that the majority of fan games are shit. The most well known fan games got known because there was good talent and ideas behind them whether you enjoyed them or not. Using an established IP helped them but nobody would care if their fan game sucked. There's probably over 10,000 Pokemon fan games now, but everyone knows about the big ones like Uranium and Prism and not the other 9,990.

Look at "spiritual successors" too, which expect you to be a fan of the original product in order for you to enjoy their game. What about indie games that use big Youtubers to make cameos in order to help sell their product? Are they not confident in their product in that case as well and have to rely on popular people in order for their game to sell?

>>375551714
The best part is that you don't have to have your game actually taken down. You just have to say it and no one else can prove it.

>>375551428
According to the wayback machine, he had at least Demo 1.3 before being taken down.

There is a torrent for a 1.3.7 on The Pirate Bay, but there have been no seeders so far. I never got to download it and I was hoping someone here would have a mirror.

>>375549886
I think he might have meant proof that he's the person he's claiming to be?
I hope so at least.

>>375551825

There's no reason for this guy to think he can use LoZ IP.

>>375551825
He was asking for donations. He wanted to be shut down.

>>375551825
>Not asking for money.

He had it so you could "name your price" on his site in order to download the demo.

>>375551983
Ok. ill tell you why you are wrong.

1. A fangame is born out of love out of the game, if a company denies you the project, it means that the company hates you.

2. not counting things like sonic mania, Theres HUNDREDS of fan projects that are still alive, and some of them even ask for money and nobody says shit. Why nintendo has to have the right to do something that other equally wealthy corps dont give a flying fuck?

>>375546102

There is no way this is real. There's always something that falls through the cracks that companies aren't aware of. If this is the case, everything should be up for grabs.

>>375551825
>as this dude wasnt asking for money.
He literally was

>>375552548
>Why nintendo has to have the right to do something that other equally wealthy corps dont give a flying fuck?
Because
1) The IP literally belongs to them not the person making the fan game. The amount of "love" put into it doesn't matter because they'll never have any ownership of it.
And if they did love it then they wouldn't rip it off like that.
2) it's because people blab these "HUNDREDS" of fangames you mention are all small projects that haven't been revealed to the public and for good reason. Most of them would just get done in the moment they get any kind of notoriety either publicly like Nintendo ones or silently like most fangames that drop of the map.

Grow up, the world doesn't work on hugs and wishes. Plus this guy was asking for money as much as you want to deny it.

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>>375540517
Ingenious way to market your game really.
>work on your own indie game
>get it to a playable state
>spend a week or two slapping on a Zelda or Metroid skin on your demo
>claim it's a fan project and shill it out
>nintenbros pick it up and start to shill it for you
>get a "cease and desist" from Nintendo, say how heartbroken you are and that you could have never seen this coming
>say that you will continue to work under your own original ip
>yfw continue to work on your own game and get free shilling to boot.

>>375552548
The thing is, you can love a game series and still make a game your own. In fact, some of the most prominant indie games are exactly that. Undertale piggybacked HARD off of Earthbound, but it was still very obviously its own thing. It's doable.

Also, it's a company's IP, to do with as they please. If you love your neighbor's swimmingpool, and they call the police when you break into their backyard in the middle of the night, that doesn't mean they hate you, necessarily, that just means they're protecting their rights and their property.

Yes, fangames without reprecussion exist, but those are ALWAYS the exception as opposed to the rule, and should always expect the C&D hammer, whether it comes or not.

>>375553075
The best part is that real or false claim the company in question, in this case Nintendo, can't do shit about it because of how bad it would look.

>>375551825
This sounds very personal to you bro. Where on the doll did Nintendo touch you?

>>375553843
His common sense by the looks of thing.

Yo faggots. Download Mirror demo link other words people Crtl + F for.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-H7FPdFCI9AQUpHak9mN2pzbGM/view

>Hurr durr don't show off your fan-game before finishing it!

Do you people not realize that getting DMCA'd gives them massive amounts of publicity? It brings them to the spotlight and makes them know so that when they release an "actual" game later they will have a fanbase there from the pity points they got from before. Even better if it happens when the game is "totally nearly done" and they totally get DMCA'd right before the finish line.

>>375542226
>Square Enix shuts down fangames
>Konami shuts down fangames
>HURRRR NO IT'S ONLY NINTENDO

Nintendo is shit for constantly throwing out C&Ds but don't act like no one else does.

>>375553140
>Yes, fangames without reprecussion exist, but those are ALWAYS the exception as opposed to the rule
No, they are the rule. Name a company that hunts down fangames that isn't Nintendo or Konami.

>>375555049
At this point it would be easier to find a fan game that hasn't been shut down. Rather than one that's been left alone.
The difference is that some are made public and others you have to hunt for to find it.

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>>375554325
Anon, you are a gentleman and a scholar

>>375555262
Could you be any more of a massive nintenbro? I can tell because you obviously know shit about fangames and only got your opinions now that nintendo's taking down games. Meanwhile...
>Microsoft has official rules for people making fangames
>Sony doesn't care
>Sega doesn't give a shit and just lets you upload any romhack you want onto Steam
>Capcom backed SFxMM and has never shut down a fan project
>Valve lets you sell your Half Life mods and games on the steam store
But please, keep living in your fantasy where fangames are obscure and every company shuts them down like Nintendo. Even though we have massive sites like Gamejolt that host all sorts of fan games, and have only ever had to take down Nintendo ones.

>>375548159
Nobodys going to remember or give a shit about his game in a mo ths time though.the only reason people were interested in the first place was because it was called zelda

IT'S

>>375556126
OKAY

>>375556043
So basically you've never actually done any research and just make the assumption that only Konami and Nintendo do it.

>>375540517
>Breath of the NES
>Follows none of the NES limitations.
Normalfag bait.

>>375556179
WHEN

>>375549686
Dumb frogposter

>>375556687
ALSO
>Faggots here actually getting upset like something of valuable was lost.
This truly is Reddit.

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>>375540517
A fan made non 3d mod.. It shouldnt take that long to finish. Probably 15 years or so tops.

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>>375546102
>American copyright law requires you to shut down all infringing material if you want to keep your copyright.

The Official Star Wars fan film awards have been going on sine 2002, allowing fans to submit their own Star Wars movies to Disney (and formerly Lucasfilm) and have them showcased to the public. Why did Disney and Lucasfilm never lose the rights to one of the biggest media franchises of all time by allowing fans to do what they want with the IP?

Oh wait, I forgot that "fan games" are somehow different from "fan art", "fan film" and "fan fiction", and that fan games literally destroy developers because Nintendo needs as many shekels as they can to survive.

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>>375540930
>video games
>creativity
Funny

>>375548308
>Axiom Verge, Hollow Knight, Salt and Sanctuary, Freedom Planet, Lisa, Hyper Light Drifter, and literally hundreds more games that nobody has ever heard of or gives a fuck about, but I think are pretty good

FTFY also Undertale for some reason kept having this heavy association with Mother / Earthbound if that matters.

>>375540517
The dude stole Nintendo's idea to release the BotW beta this E3, it was gonna be downloadable for the eshop with a discount to those who had BotW DLC

>Use direct assets owned by Nintendo
>Use characters owned by Nintendo
>Use names owned by Nintendo
>Charge people for the game via Patreon/Indiegogo/kickstarter
>Gets upset when hit with cease and desist

There are people in this thread right now who actually defend these people.

>>375540930

because then /v/ would automatically bash it calling it a copycat

>WOOOOW IT'S LITERALLY ZELDA ECXEPT IT'S CALLED PANTY QUEST NINTENDO SHOULD DELET THIS

>>375556493
I have and I just listed major companies that don't care about shutting down games. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about if you think fangames stay underground to avoid DMCA when they couldn't possibly be more public and accessible.

>>375556703
HE

>>375557219
HAS

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>>375541000
Third post best post

>>375557129
>get upset

He didn't though, he KNEW Nintendo was going to shut it down, and he always planned to make it something different. He just wanted news site to cover it so he gets his patreon bucks.

>>375541000
This

>>375557370
Smart then if that really was his plan, though doubtful

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>>375557129
>shot by shot remake of Raiders of the Lost Ark
>uses characters, settings, names owned by lucasfilm
>rips John williams music
>Spielberg writes the makers a letter and invites them to come meet him

There are people in this thread defending Nintendo right now.

>>375557236
NO

>>375557584
Were they profiting on it in any way?

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>>375540517

>>375558382
Nintendo has shut down non-profit fan games before.

>>375558353
STYLE

>>375557530
>“When a lot of people hear about this project, they jump to worrying about a cease and desist from Nintendo,” Winter Drake told Kotaku. “While I’m going to stay hardworking on Breath of the NES for as long as I can, if Nintendo asks me to stop using their IP, I do plan to continue development with my own original characters. I’m having way too much fun creating this world to just give up.”

>>375551619
Okay. He used to visit /v/ every now and then but he hasn't updated his own game's blog in nearly 5 fucking years

Any fan game dev that actually tries to turn a profit and make themselves big internet superstars deserves it.

Fan games are a purely passion thing, you keep it amateur and you keep it free. If you're gonna start a patreon and go do interviews with Kotaku, then fuck off retard.

i love how they can take the time to DMCA so much shit but can't even ship their own consoles

>>375546102
why have i only ever heard of this "law" on /v/

>>375541000
the creator stated that he knew it would get a C&D, and that his plan was to just switch to his own IP once he received it.

using zelda at the start just gave him some free PR.
why is this thread so big? do people not understand this?

>>375559019
Because nintendies who have literally never touched fan media before have to come up with a new opinion on the spot so they can keep defending nintendo.

>>375556921
It's interesting you brought up the Star Wars fanfilms.
Did you know, that until 2007, in-universe fanfilms, i.e. "fan-flicks" were barred from being nominated for awards? And even today, in order to avoid C&Ds, fan films have to conform to very strict guidelines, including length, what characters can appear and in what capacity, and what scenes and events from official movies can be depicted.

>>375559154
Because nu/v/ is made up of pirates who use irrational hatred of video game companies to justify their thieving and sjw commies who think everything should be free

>>375556934
>that nobody has ever heard of or gives a fuck about

I dunno, man, for being games "Nobody's ever heard of", a lot of these games somehow end up in Steam's "Top Sellers" tabs fairly often.

I don't think Kerbal Space Program, Rocket League, Stardew Valley, Terraria, or Undertale ever stopped being on the list since they came out, in some cases YEARS ago.

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>all that damage control from nintendo kiddies

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>>375560382
>Shilling and defending companies for free

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>>375540517
>BREATH OF THE NES
>The NES wouldn't even be able to render any of that shit
It deserved to die.

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>>375560598
i wish we had anons from /g/. they literally fought and won against shills by releasing the personal data of all the marketeers

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>>375540517

Good thing I stopped being a NintenShit fan boi a longass fucking time ago

Leave it to Shittendo to shit on harmless projects for literally no fucking reason just because they feel/felt like being total dickholes, NintenShit literally deserves their games to be pirated and their consoles and handhelds to be fucking hacked left and right for piracy because they'll never port every game as roms from every single one of their handhelds and consoles because NintenShit loves to be and eat literal dog shit like that

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>>375541000
>develop well made fan game
>only promote it anonymously on /v/ with screencaps and webms
>release the game and put the source code on github at the same time

>>375560382
>nu/v/
>pirates

Are you a fucking newfag or something? /v/'s been pro-piracy since its fucking inception

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>>375540517
>>375556687
>>375560671

Nevermind the NES' graphical limitations, it doesn't use ANY colors from the NES' palette except for the box that has the sword.

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>>375551161
there there

>>375561120
>/v/'s been pro-piracy since its fucking inception

until recently. there has been like 20 anti-piracy threads a day for months now.

>Nintendo and Konami are the only companies left who aren't totally fine with fan works related to their IPs
>People still defend them

Why do you fanboys do that?

Slapping down fan projects is a dick move, yes.

But using another company's IP to prop up your own creation and then throwing a bitch fit when a company rightfully defends their own property is also a dick move.

These two facts aren't mutually exclusive.

>>375560598
>defending literal criminal actions

Don't you have a BLM protest to go to?

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>other companies take down fan project
>REEEEE LYNCH THEM! UNFAIR!
>Nintendo takes down fan project
>i-i-its okay! im totally not bias or anything

Source: SEGA taking down streets of rage remake, check the archives and laugh

>>375540517
>people are getting C&D'd by Nintendo on purpose.
>this puts Nintendo under fire and free PR.
you know what, i hope Nintendo fucks them all over.
if you cant make a game on your own merit, then you should never make a game at all

>>375561227
Because sucking corporate dick is the cool thing today. Corporations are people and brands are my friends!

On a side note, in these threads I always see people saying "IF I WAS AN INDIE DEV I WOULD SHUT DOWN EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF FAN CONTENT EVER MADE, ITS MY IP ONLY I SHOULD USE IT". Even though the indie games that get the farthest are the ones with high amounts of fan-made content.

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SHUT UP EVERYONE!

ITS OKAY WHEN THEY DO IT! STOP INSULTING BASED NINTY!

>>375557129
Nintendo is a multi billion dollar company. What could they possibly gain from someone asking for small donations?

>>375561674
>Because sucking corporate dick is the cool thing today.

We've truly gone full contrarian here

>>375557129
>>Charge people for the game via Patreon/Indiegogo/kickstarter

But that never happened, and I don't think has ever happened in regards to projects Nintendo shuts down

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Why can't Nintendo be like Sega and not have a heart attack when fan try doing cool stuff like this? There are people right now in this thread that will defend a conglomerate like Nintendo fucking over small creators.

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let's get this over with

post yfw you aren't a nintendo fan

>>375547545

AM2R guy didn't ask for money. Ever.

It took years for people to convince him to set up a paypal for donations.

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>>375562207

Nintendo fans are cancerous.

>>375561627
It's the current year, and it's completely okay when Nintendo does:
>Season passes
>DLC that costs as much as the game
>Underpowered hardware several generations behind
>Killing franchises because one effortless spinoff didn't sell
>Mobile games
>Skylanders
>Shutting down ROM HACKS I.E MODS OF GAMES
>Epic Twitter memes
>Bad localization and censorship
>Region locking
>Fucking over early adopters
>Paid Pokemon transferring

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>>375562207

>>375561674
Why don't retards know what it means when people say a corporation is a separate legal entity?

>>375562436
>>Paid Pokemon transferring

I still can't believe that's a thing. I thought someone was pulling my chain when they told me about that

>>375550658
IP law is absolutely bullshit, you moronic statist. They can and should have to compete with free stuff to PROVE they're worth paying for instead of selling ROMs.

>>375540517
Justice has been done

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at this point, i see no difference between neogaf and /v/

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>>375562207
i actually feel kinda bad for them, i mean they used to be a competent company.

>>375552550

I don't do IP law, but I would guess the company would need to either be actually aware, or they reasonably should have been aware.

Proving the first would be tough, proving the second slightly easier but still difficult. The safest course for the company is just to always send takedowns. It removes even that remote possibility, and creates a pattern so that if someone does try to pull a fast one they can say "look, we always enforce. It's clear that if we had known we would have here, since we didn't it's clear we didn't know."

If you're working for a multi-million dollar company going "it's just a small project, no big deal" is a great way to get fired or end up in the malpractice hole.

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>>375563267
So did Sony.

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>>375563391
Asshurt Nintenfag identified.

>>375561627
Except Streets of Rage Remake has since come back online, and Sega hasn't ordered another C&D. They stopped caring.
Also, they actually embrace shit like romhacks now.

>>375562436
>Region locking
The Switch took out region locking

>>375541000
It really is this god damn simple.

It's nintendos right to do so. Fuck off.

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>>375558790
Hey. Life+ is on hiatus until I'm skilled enough to stay consistent with an art style. That, and the lack of a solid gameplay design, hurt Life+ in the long term. It had a few maps and a bunch of enemies before I realized I just kept remaking things and needed to grow a bit more cuz it wasn't fun.

I do pick it up now and then, though.

>>375540517
>Author plans to continue under his own IP.

should have done that from the start faggot

you objectively shouldn't be able to get free publicity from someone else's ips

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>>375540517
>there are people who don't realize by this point that half of these """"""takedowns"""""" are fake and have fuck-all to do with nintendo

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after Mother 4's name change and PMDT's Warchamp joining Wavedash Games, i'm going to consider the fact fangame "authors" are just doing this crap to create PR for whatever shit they're planning to sell on their own

this is really getting pathetic

>>375564312

Shhh, let the consolewar faggots have their autistic screeching.

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>>375541000
Great fucking post famalam

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>>375564179
I agree. We need to start banning all other """fan""" projects too. Fan art? BANNED. Fan remixes? BANNED. I'm so glad Nintendo turned a new leaf and left these thieves in the dust.

>>375541000
here here

>>375564498
Dont forget let's plays fan animations and youtube parodies.

>diagonal movement

The combat is going to be shit

>>375564157
Rad. Don't give up! Thanks for the update though. I'm sure someday you'll think of some fun things to do with your game ideas. It's definitely shitty to work on something you're not having fun with.

>>375549638
Pastel had a tripcode here once

I've defended other fan games after their take down like AM2R and Pokemon Prism, but I can't defend this one.

It's obvious he was desperate for attention and wanted the C&D to happen just so he could get money and fans. He was even asking for donations which defies common sense, unless he was trying to get a C&D on purpose. He was prepared for it to happen anyway, which asks why he didn't just change his game sooner? Because no one would care if it was his own creation.

Nintendo was right this time, and it sucks that they can't take further action against this guy with zero integrity.

>>375563541
>sonyfag outs himself
I haven't bought a nintendo product since the gamecube, son.

>Megaman 8-bit Deathmatch is in its 5 release now
>Megaman 2.5D has been deveoped publicly for years and released the full game recently
>This is a franchise that has been death for at least half a decade and still no C&Ds for these projects
>"If you don't shut down everything fan-related you'll lose the IP!"
The corporate dicksucking has no end

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>>375541000
Forgive the phone posting

>>375565867
No don't you remember when sega lost the rights to every single Genesis game when they let people put romhacks on the steam workshop? What a disaster it's been. I can't believe Activision is making the next Ristar and Sega can't do anything about it.

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>>375565124
Thanks! Really, that kind of stuff means a lot. I could've released Life+ a long time ago, but the game itself wasn't fun, either. People waiting on me deserve better than "good enough."
>>375565217
Just in one thread. If anybody else showed up with my name it wasn't me.

>>375566215
Copyright isn't the same as trademark. Trademark works the way you're suggesting, copyright does not.

>>375566208
What a faggot. All these DMCAs will bring a new age of money-grubbing Jews to the fangame scene. It's not about making cool games anymore, it's about shilling yourself and making money.

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>>375565867
>>"If you don't shut down everything fan-related you'll lose the IP!"
really funny this was a corporate shill lie

they have to authority to shut down anytime they want, no rule to if they must protect their IP

>>375566363
I'm joking, dummy.

>>375566208
>Not much fun to develop something in silence without getting feedback and publicity
oh yeah, tell that to the AM2R dev and the FiM people after they leaked the finished build you lying sack of shit

>>375566271
Give us an update every now and then! I'll be looking forward to checking it out when you've got it in a state you really like. And I understand you're working on that other project, so that's cool too. A hello every once in a while is good enough!

>>375566670

The AM2R dev was publicly reporting on development since the start of the project though

>>375567164
he would much rather work in the niche or silence than caring if a couple of twitter mongrels are willing to give him attention

>>375540517
So, were they accepting money for the demo downloads?

>>375540517
I had never heard of this thing until just now

Nice free publicity

>>375561627
Who are you quoting?

>>375567552
Yes

>>375566670
AM2R was finished, then took down. There was no leak there.

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>>375563541
He's not wrong you know, sonybro

>>375568018

Don't lie to him anon, he might be stupid enough to believe you

>>375563291

This law just seems fucking retarded. If they aren't cracking down like Nazis another company can just use their IPs freely? Who made this shit?

>>375568370
He's right though you faggot

>>375568036
what fucking AM2R leak?

i'm taking about Fighting is Magic

>>375568370
>he might be stupid enough
Oh yeah, people totally haven't labelled games that should be free as pay-if-you-want on itch.io, that's never been done before. Why would I think they did such a thing?

>>375568580
Your wording made it seem like you meant both were leaked. Calm down

>>375540517
funny, it's been ONE YEAR since that zelda 3d anniversary game and nostalrius got taken down too

>>375568580
>the AM2R dev and the FiM people after they leaked the finished built
If you're not talking about both games, then work on your sentence structure.

>>375541000
>AM2R mentioned in Game Informer
>Fighting is Magic slated for EVO
>both Mario 64 HD and Breath of the NES highlighted by Kotaku
It's like these people wanted their games to die.

get shit on indie fags

>>375568810
Star Road was mentioned on Nintendo Power issue once and they got a free pass

>>375568985
Star Road is the only one of those games that's a romhack.

In fact, I'm not actually certain I've ever seen a takedown issued for a romhack.

>>375568810
Magazines and websites often write articles about fans games without even contacting the authors.

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>>375540517

>PC FAGS are so desperate for nintneod games they have to try and recreate them on pc
>cont even emulate wii u games properly
>have the nerve to come on /v/ bragging like they can play games
>can only play like 1 hour of the entire breath of wild wii u version
>so poor and pathetic that they cant afford a 300 dollar console

Suffer pc scum suffer

>>375569172
Pokemon Prism

>>375548308
Earthbound, Super Metroid, Dark Souls, Dark Souls, Mischief Makers, Diablo 2.

>>375569172

As the other anon said, Pokemon Prism was issued a takedown right before release (and luckily someone leaked it a few days later)

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>>375540517
just don't use assets ripped from the old games and call it something different, just say it's a spiritual successor to whatever

It's a "/v/ defends Nintendo being anti-consumer as fuck" episode

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>>375571371
>its a rerun

>>375540517

>finish fangame
>week long "charity drive" for release
>release it for free
>get CND
>stop
>doesn't matter because it's already out there

That metroid one was class.

>>375571371
Can't imagine the kind of miserable realism FPS obsessed faggot you have to be to not enjoy playing Nintendo games

>It's a /v/ suddenly hates fan games when God Emperor Nintendo shuts one down episode

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>>375572080
I legit can't tell if you're serious or not.

>>375571371
Most people in these threads aren't even defending them. You fags just love perpetuating the "Nintendo can do no wrong" meme

>>375572080
>if you don't like Nintendo, you don't like their games
think again

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I can almost guarantee that none of these fangame creators "had" to remove their games at all. At best Nintendo wouldn't have done shit, at worst the CND was outright faked by either them or a 3rd party who was mad about the fangame for whatever reason.
I recommend everyone watch this panel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSWqx8goqSY

>>375572398

AM2R's removal was requested from a legitimate lawyer confirmed to be working on behalf of Nintendo

>>375572398
>Nintendo actually didn't do it guys, they just don't come out and say it because good publicity doesn't mean anything to a company
Sure thing

>Guy makes a demo for a fan game based on Zelda
>Nintendo takes it down
>/v/ defends this by saying it looked like shit even though it was a very early demo

>>375572080

Moviebob? Is that you?

No wonder the NDF has been so autistic lately.

>>375572735
I think the moral of the story is to finish your Nintendo fan work before you broadcast it to the world, that way other people can distribute it without any heat falling on you.

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>>375540517
It's almost like they watched the developer commentary about how the developers for breath of the wild actually made the idea frame work using the original 2D game and engine and said "Hey, let's just do that!"

I remember a few years ago when you autistic fanboys were arguing with me to the death about how Nintendo doesn't C&D any old fangame and that [game name] was just a special case, now you're saying Nintendo has a right to do it.

Reminds me of how you guys swore up and down Nintendo would never EVER do DLC or have paid online and would jerk them off endlessly for it.

fucking good he wont finish it anyway just like the oot 2d dude and literally every other person who does one of these

>>375573372
>newest Zelda game has a season pass on a console that requires payment to play multiplayer online
really makes you think

>>375573490

>Fangames never get finished
>Nintendo kills them so we don't have to be disappointed

Thank you based Nintendo, truly our greatest ally.

>>375572398
Maybe, but nobody's willing to take the chance to ignore them.

>>375545043
And it was garbage

>>375574410
>ALBW
>garbage
Nah mate, fuck off

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>>375573201
>those burning trees
>even on the prototype they were setting everything on fire

>>375540930
Because they're attention whores who knows they wont get any attention unless they name it the way they do. They especially do it in hopes it'll cause controversy, which then leads to people feeling bad for them and then giving them more attention.

>>375540517
Taking donations (i.e making money) on Nintendo's IP is fucking retarded and I hope this guy ends up in court/jail over it.

>>375575785
wew

>>375575785
>I hope this guy ends up in court/jail over it.

So this is what's become of my beloved board

>>375546330
>"Mass Effect the porno

There are like, a million pornos that are basically titled "[Franchise], An XXX Parody."

It gets to the point of where it's almost disappointing they don't think up a more clever title.

>>375575968
maybe you should stop giving attention to retards and falseflaggers

>>375575842
>>375575968
He's not wrong, samefag. Go give that faggot all your cash if you support the moron so much. Any fag that asks for money for these trash "fan games" deserve to be locked away just for the sheer fact they're retarded enough to ask for money.

>>375574541
If I wanted to play LttP twice I would. I have in fact.
A better comparison would be baby's first LttP: Bad story edition.

>>375572697
>cancelling shitty fan games bring about bad publicity
Literally only a small minority cares for this trash, and the majority will forget about it within a week. If these morons are gonna go asking for money when making these fan games, they deserve to be shut down.

>>375576186
aLttP is my favourite Zelda game. Doesn't mean ALBW is bad. The story isn't any worse than any other Zelda game either

>>375576426
>Literally only a small minority cares for this trash
And? They would literally lose nothing if they came out and said it wasn't them. It would be a net gain from a PR standpoint

>>375545043
I love Link Between Worlds and I desperately wish they made more zelda games of that style than the OoT styled ones.

Nintendo could bring back StarTropics which plays like old Zelda

>>375569336
Prism was likely taken down because there's a high chance Gamefreak may use that as a title for an official game.

>>375576632
>It would be a net gain from a PR standpoint
>"Lol we're making it our own thing"
>No one gives a fuck because it's not Zelda anymore and everyone forgets about it

How is that a net gain? How many people still care about Mother 4 after they said they were changing it to their own thing? Fucking no one cares about it now.

>>375576474
aLBW wasn't bad because it was a worse lttp, nor for its terrible story. It was bad because there was nothing really challenging at all, neither the puzzles nor dungeons had any thought put into them. You might as well have just made it a huge boss rush.

>>375577197
I was referring to Nintendo. If it wasn't them, they have no reason not to come out and say it

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>>375540930
>>375541000

>expecting literal 4chan tier autists to not be autists

That's like expecting 4chan cuckolds to not post anime girls or post their personal story about muh depression and muh hard life because i was super duper unlucky in life :(

>>375544381
they got copped at mediafire once. also the devs said they hold plans to negotiate with Nintendo if they can get this on eShop or just the license to do a fangame

crazy i know