I'm a fan of it. Didn't give it a chance 2 years ago.

Blizzard shills are really getting desperate lately.

>>375515756
It's probably the only Blizzard game that's improved rather than turn to shit. It helps that the team consists of fans of the old games.

>>375515756
I've noticed people who like HotS are people who don't like the other MOBAs

t. guy who's played all of them

>>375516030
What is diablo?

>>375515756

It's ok. Not a big fan of assfaggots (played a bit of Dota in the past), but gameplay-wise I see nothing wrong with it.

>>375516063
I used to love Dota 2, but the past changes have caused me to lose interest. HotS doesn't have the depth and I can't play it for more than a few games, but it's easy to pick-up and play and games are mercifully short.

I can see the appeal in it over the other games. You won't see a hero like Cho'Gall in Dota 2 anytime soon.

most boring shitfest i've ever played
tries to sneaky fuck you in the ass while feeding you sandwiches with butter only
fuck this game

>>375516526
>dropped Dota 2 in like october
>installed HotS a few months ago
>uninstalled it next day because it's fucking garbage

Even if it's the dumbest moba that accentuates on fights it doesn't make it any better because it's EXTREMELY repetitive and unexciting. Having a bunch of maps with cancerous events doesn't make the game interesting.

t. 6k in dota, played it since the earliest WC3 versions from time to time.

it's good. still missing too many literal legends, though.

>>375517216

Who'd you have in mind?

>>375516063
True for me at least. Looking back now I think the only thing that I really find fun about mobas is teamfighting with unique characters, and that's pretty much all HotS is about. I know optimizing your gold farming for the first 20 minutes of each game is what makes the genre hardcore but I don't give a shit about that.

>>375515756
tfw no friends

>>375516030
this

the game actually became better over time and not worse

>>375517087
I don't know what your point is.

>>375516063
the other moba i like is dawngate T_T
i miss king of masks so much

>>375516326
A stagnated mess that they've tried to improve but failed horribly.
>Charging for half-assed new characters that should have been included in base game

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>>375517284
Where the FUCK is Maiev?

>>375515756
>decide to install
>apparently missed the "free 20 heroes" bullshit
Well thanks blizzard for making me lose interest again.

>>375522268
>Mega Bundles will be available following the launch of Heroes of the Storm 2.0 in your region, lasting until May 22, 2017. All players who log in to Heroes of the Storm during that timeframe will automatically receive 100 Gems, which can be used to permanently unlock one (1) Mega Bundle of their choosing. Choose wisely! Once you have unlocked one of the four Mega Bundles described above, the other three will become unavailable.

Just go to Collections, you fucking retard. You got a MASSIVE pop-up the first time you logged in.

>>375520729

You can't NOT expect EA to cancel a game like that in the middle of an official tournament. After all, it didn't completely destroy League of Legends and steal all of its fans in the first month of open beta.

>>375522540
Apparently Riot/Tencent paid EA about 2 billion to cancel the game.

>>375522268
wot, its up for a whole month dude.

>>375522484
Thanks m8, at least I didn't fuck up like my brother did and spend the 100 whatever on a lootbox apparntly

>>375521431
>A stagnated mess that they've tried to improve but failed horribly.
I play every season, it's always full of people talking and running shit together. What are you crying about fucktard?
>Charging for half-assed new characters that should have been included in base game
>waaah just give me free shit
Get a job.

>>375523207
It was cool when there were reasons to do seasons or they made new items for each season but now the legendary sets you get just seem to be on rotation

>>375523375
>It was cool when there were reasons to do seasons or they made new items for each season but now the legendary sets you get just seem to be on rotation
New items have been coming out just about every patch.
If you're bored of the sets give LoN a try, make something new.

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>>375522154
This is why you can still carry a whole team of retards with Kael'Thas.

And even harder with Nazeebo

>>375520138
He said the emphasis on map objectives is dull, that the game is samey and shallow which has led to it becoming "solved" (not that he said that, but that's what he was trying to say).

>>375523207
>Get a job.
I know you're just pretending to be a Diablo fan, but when Blizzard does dumb shit when there's actual competition, people go and play the competition.
PoE's success has as much to do with Grinding Gears Games as it does with Blizzard's failure.

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>Want Auriel
>Keep wasting all my gold on rerolls

>>375522890
You get 1000 gems for reaching account level 5 or 10, not sure which.

You also get 150 gems every 25 levels.

>>375524398
what is the best use of gems?
Just for buying a single character, right?

>>375524639
Only buy 50% discounted stuff.

>>375524068
I don't give a shit about PoE's success. If you like PoE then fucking play it and quit sperging about D3 not being like it.

I don't think Blizzard is sweating about a F2P game.

>>375524068
poe is so ridiculously boring, just as diablo3 is. if you're playing alone it's even worse.

>>375522268
>>375522890
You and your brother should be sterilized for being retards.

Anyways Hots is pretty fun, its also one of the only mobas I've had fun with solo queuing rather than playing with my friends. Its been pretty polarizing with my friends though, some people love it and others only play it if we have a 4 stack and theres no group playing on dota 2. Pretty well none of us play league of shit anymore though. I've also tried SMITE, heroes of newerth and bloodline champions. BC and SMITE were interesting but I didn't get friends to play it and I don't like playing mobas alone.
HON is awful feeling to play.

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Best hero coming through.

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>>375525930
Don't care about tier lists or meta-fags, Guldan will always be my favorite damage champ.

>>375516063
More like "sick of"

I played DoTA to death in the Wc3 days and Dota2 just doesn't interest me as a result.
I played LoL when it came out because of faggot friends telling me to. I soon just told them to fuck off after a while because every game was a slog of them raging at the slightest problem.
MNC was the best and still fucking sad that it died

HoTS main appeal is variety, map objectives really helps break up the monotony (though for some reason they disabled some of the best ones for this fucking event). Its the Smash Brothers of dota-clones, its not as deep as other games but its fun to play casually.

>>375515756
I cant take it seriously when you get rewarded for literally doing nothing and the fact that they made that fucking garbage instead of warcraft4

>>375526526

>wanting wc4 on sc2 engine

Truly disgusting

Is this game actually fun? I discovered that it has old Warcraft3 characters that I liked like Illidan and Arthas so I want to play it now. Is the gameplay actually fun? Is the community toxic?

>>375515756
This is, what, the third thread you've made in 24 hours? Give it up already. They're not paying you enough to shit /v/ up this much.

>>375526959
>is the game fun?
no
>is the community """""""toxic"""""""?
fuck off back to baby mode league of losers you spineless nigger. grow a pair of bollocks and stop being such an easily offended little prissy homosexual.

literally everyone who uses that word is the same kind of hand holding retard who needs to be euthanized.

>>375526753
I haven't played SC2 since beta and didn't really care for it. What's wrong with the engine?

>>375527205
Deathballing.

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>>375525930
>When they get hit by all six corruption blasts

>>375527205

hots is based on sc2 engine. that should speak for itself.

>>375527204
Toxic is just the byword for Dunning Kreuger teammates.

>IF ONLY MY TEAM WAS BETTER I WOULDN'T BE IN BRONZE!

>>375527205
I don't know why but the SC2 engine runs really poorly, it's like really unoptimized. There's also some hardcoded shit that pops up playing HOTS (like how it handles reconnecting) that is just aids.

>>375527204
Well I never played dota before and I don't want to deal with retards on the internet yelling at me because I had Arthas shove Frostmourne down the wrong hole or something. Is there a way I can play exclusively with noobs?

>>375527587
>Is there a way I can play exclusively with noobs?
Player vs AI

>>375527587
No. But you can completely disable chat and never see a single thing anyone types or pings

>>375527902
Oh no that's not fun.

>>375522154
I thought chain bomb didn't chain like that anymore.
>That pyro charging up at the end
Top kek.

>>375528004
>you can completely disable chat and never see a single thing anyone types or pings
Good enough. I'm going to do just that and then wander around the map like a lost sheep. I hope I don't get banned for trolling or something. Thanks.

>>375528150
They're desperate for players. Even if you spam NIGGER in chat you wont get banned

>>375516063
>Have 500 hours in Dota
>Hoping to escape its hostile atmosphere
>HotS megabundle convinces me to give the game a try
>Movement and attacking feels weird but the game is enjoyable
>People are too focused on pushing and to ignore objectives and bosses, we still win but it's a painful experience
>Happens both in VS A.I. with people of player level 40-60 to unranked with people of player level 1-5 (I was lv 25 at the time, only played one unranked match)

For a supposedly easier game, I'm more scared of playing with pubs than Dota, on a side note, got the support bundle, then I bought Sgt. Hammer, Diablo and the Starcraft dude with the assault rifle, I also like Kharazim, Lucio and Uther, want Arthas and Varian but making money seems to be incredibly slow,

>>375527205
its Pathing is really pisspoor for a single unit to move around in, this was especially obvious in HoTS when it first came out in Alpha, tho they have tweaked it over time so its a little better but still can be wonky.

Basically Sc2 is built around letting you move 400 zerglings in one large death ball, with that many units the way warcraft 3 did pathing where units would bump into each other, stop, and wait, and adjust their path would be slow and tiresome. So instead they have units that are friendly with each other attempt to "Push" through each other. This makes it a lot easier to manage the large armies that Sc2 can have but when you are moving a single unit the entire game.

It really starts to show as in HoTS, you'll have heroes running into walls to get to their target rather than stopping orders if there is no path to the location and just basic attacking like in Wc3. There are some useful side effects of this such as tanks with large collision boxes literally "bullying" other heroes and altering their pathing by getting in the way, but its really shitty feeling when you first start and are used to Wc3's pathing.

>>375528150
Blizzard doesn't ban people unless they're cheating and that's usually just temporary.

>>375528347
>literally "bullying" other heroes and altering their pathing by getting in the way
That's just basic body blocking.

The game is still complete shit.

Until blizzard pulls its head out of its ass and removes healers and makes lanes longer the game will feel unrewarding and lame as fuck.

>>375528270
>They're desperate for players.
Really? I thought it would be doing well because this is a Blizzard game. All Blizzard games do well.

>>375528384
That's good to know thanks. I'll definitely give this game a try.

>>375528480
Its hard to explain, you can literally alter a units path in HoTS/Sc2 and the unit wont stop like they would normally. I've had times where I've been able to alter units that are moving in a straight line to a completely diagonal path because the pathing tries to keep the unit moving straight forward towards its destination, not stop and path around the obstruction.

I know this is sounding autistic as fuck but its really glaring when you go from Wc3 to Sc2 and I've had a number of friends express frustration about HoTS movement when compared to other games.

>>375528308
I'm a moba noob, didn't like the moba system, and I actually like playing a few hots matches here and there, maybe 2 or 3 each day or two days.

Still that's true, pubs usually ignore objectives since 2.0, but when you are usually joined by veterans (even if the game says lvl 20-60 look at their portrait, it will show the real lvl) they really try to play as a team and with objectives in mind, the matches are much more fun.

Btw now that you mention Lucio, I love how they almost 1:1 him from Overwatch, but his original ultimate is shit, doesn't really work in hots only taking one or 2 normal skills to deplete it or just 3 seconds, his offensive ultimate is 10 times stronger:

>pick bigger area mission skill.
>pick offensive ultimate.
>activate just before the enemy team tries to run away and see them crawl in place while your team moves at sanic speed and cleans.

>>375528910
I play both Wc3 and Sc2 on a some what medium high level so I know what you talking about, so far as the push verus bump and stop mechanics, I'm not totally sure its present in HotS, However I do know that they actually changed how body blocking worked in a patch not to long ago so maybe they added some SC2 code in.

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>mfw I got Li Li announcer

>>375528057
Nah, the chaining they removed was from the Flamestrike-applied bombs. You'd have 5 Living Bombs going off and just spreading another 5, wiping teams in seconds. They removed that, after a while they reworked him, made Chain Bomb a baseline feature of Living Bomb, and now KT is actually better built for Living Bomb than for Flamestrike.

>>375529316
I was kind of rambling in my initial post and didn't make it clear: Most of what I was looking at was the early stages of HoTS in the Alpha when it was a lot closer to the Sc2 engine (thus trying to explain why the engine feels really shitty to play on at times). I think they have somewhat tweaked the pathing since then but I still find time to time my character will literally just run into walls rather than pathing around them in weird situations.

>>375528308
There's a trick to make getting gold a bit faster, although it can be frustrating because it limits what heroes you can play.

Basically, if you get one of the 200 gold Daily Quests, don't complete it. Get 2 uncompleted 200 gold quests and you've essentially removed these 2 from the daily quest pool, making your odds of getting a 300-800 gold quest a lot higher.

>>375515756
Problem with HOTS is I had already played LoL for quite some time before quitting and moving on. When it comes to MOBAs you can just pick on and play it and never have to play another. They're all essentially the same with very minor differences.

Played one, seen them all. In the end it's a genre that'll suffocate itself.

>>375529679
Ah. I have had some issues with pathing, mainly characters just doubling back in to people because that is now the "fastest" route, not so much running into walls (other then the first few seconds of the game of course).

>>375529181
Lucio is fucking great, kinda wish the area was visible to allies so they could play a bit safer when I'm around, I like being credit to team just by skating around, as for offensive capabilities, I love he can shoot while moving, even got a double kill while chasing fleeing heroes the other day but my favorite tactic is to activate the speed crossfade, run past someone and use shockwave to push them further into my territory

>>375529778
Damn, I've gotten play 3 AI matches these few days, I'm a bit bothered they don't give you more quests a day or there's no login reward system, if it gets too annoying I'll have to try that

>>375530192

Doesn't OW Lucio have a visible aura now? Seems odd that HotS Lucio wouldn't.

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>>375522154
>pyroblast reticule at the end

>>375530403
Haven't played Overwatch beyond the free weekend they did sometime ago but I don't think he did back then, today I played a match with a Lucio on my team and I couldn't see any aura, just the yellow or green glue of his skates and the heal numbers appearing on me if he has the healing aura on

>>375530403
HotS Lucio does I thought.

>>375516030
Naw, they're just giving away free heroes and are shilling the shit out of it.

P2W shit

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>>375529525
Why is she voiced by what sounds like an old woman tho, it just sounds weird.

>>375528057
It's a level 20 talent now.

If they could fix the gameplay it might actually be playable now. Too bad it's horribly slow and boring.

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who else /abathur/ here
dat map presence
dem clutch splitpushes
dat minion transforming ult that tears through heroes when fully stacked

It'll pretty much give you the same highs and lows as the other MOBAs, but in half the time spent.

>>375523898
So how do games like Counter-Strike and Smash Bros. end up being more enjoyable when they are just as dull and repetitive?

I always thought Dota 2 was just as repetitive, not that it wasn't fun. But once you learned everything about the game your options to approach things became much more narrow as what was fun didn't work.

I see the professionals play and they pull some sick shit and I try my damnedest to replicate it only never to succeed.

anyone have any tips for what talents to pic for kael'thas, I feel like im never doing enough damage

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I've given it multiple chances over the course of many years at this point. The game was bad then and it is bad now.Get fucked marketer-kun.

>>375531891

Quest talent for Flamestrike dmg at 1, unless you are seriously in danger of getting wrecked by enemy assassins. Range on your Gravity Lapse at 4. Burned Flesh at 7, Phoenix at 10, Living Bomb range at 13, double Flamestrike at 16, Flamethrower at 20.

>>375532140

If enemy team has a Nova, Zeratul, or Valeera, consider going for the mana shield at 1 instead. You shouldn't really be dying to non-stealth heroes if you are positioning properly.

>>375531763
Best hero for duos with my sibling. I never play support but it's fun with Abathur because I don't have to worry about getting gibbed by being out of position.

>>375531695
>games are half the length of dota games
>dotards complaints are literally "there's too much fighting in this game"
>"slow"

Best thing about it is that matches are usually over in 15 - 20 minutes, sometimes less. You don't have to face losing after an hour of play because your retard team member got himself picked off going solo somewhere.

>>375532272
I usually pick full damage talents and shred things. Are his enhanced/healing shields worth trying?

>>375515756
Been playing for over 2 years, never spent even $1 on the game. 2.0 is the best thing to happen now you can get legendary skins for free by just playing.

>>375531763
He desperately needs some buffs. His Abomination is trash because people will just kill it before you can get enough stacks on it to become relevant, and the rest of his kit is nerfed as fuck.

>>375532251
>>375532140
Living Bomb build is also very good now. Sometimes even better than the Flamestrike build.

Playing this atm
Damn tne braxis holdout music is amazing

>>375515756
I think it's shit. Camera is way too zoomed in even on 21:9 screen. It looks nice but... everything else is just shit. I'm not fan of DOTA2 either so it's just me but I don't like MOBAs at all. At least Blizzard should fix the camera distance it's made for retards.

>>375533248
To bad the map is FUCKING CANCER.

>>375532472
Oh god this.

All else being equal, it's about a 6/10 as a moba, but the fact that the matches are super quick and the game goes out of its way to make sure the impact of retards doing retard things are mitigated boosts it up to a 9, easily.

>>375515756
big 2.0 reveal

let's see what they changed

>revamp of the monetization that fucks over anyone that bought anything in the game prior to this change

so standard blizzard protocol of fucking over their old fans that will swallow anything they give them anyway

>>375533248
That's the SC Terran theme.
It's good because it was made in 1998.

>>375532281
The heroes just feel worse, like they are being dragged back by molasses or something. All the abilities from the heroes I have played also feel like you are trying to pet the enemy to death instead of dealing any kind of damage, and enemy heroes can easily run away even with perfect cc chains. Game feels slow because the actual fights are so slow. Doesn't matter about game length at all.

>really don't care much for Warcraft garbage
>game is basically Heroes of Warcraft

They really need to stop making new Warcraft heroes.

>>375533329
I would rather play a 40 min game with no hope of winning though. I hate the feeling of the games being over before anything interesting can even happen.

>>375533492
>buying skins in this piece of shit
hahahaha

>>375523207
>what are you crying about?
hes not crying you retarded waste of life hes making a good point and hes absolutely right the game is a disaster
>waah give me free shit
i know that i shouldve realized this the moment you said you played d3 but are you actually stupid? cant you read? he said "included in the base game" not free
the game is shit and youre a fucking idiot for playing it go hang yourself

Why are the most annoying characters in the game all the StarCraft humans?
Every single one of them is obnoxious to play against

>>375534228
What? Raynor, Tycus and Nova? Nova is slightly annoying but the rest are literally auto attack heroes which rank very low on the annoying tier for me.

I've played 7 games in the last couple days and 6 of them were payload. I last played in beta and there were all sorts of cool game modes like giant plant monsters and dragons and cannonball pirates. What happened to those?

>>375534470
I believe 2 of those aren't in the current rotation, but Cannonball is.
There's only one map thats payload so its weird that you got it so much.

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>>375534379
>>375534228
tfw play Tassadar all the time, shitting on faggot invisible characters every game because every shitter wants to play Nova or Valeera..
Starcraft, feels good man.

>>375533815

That's a fair enough opinion. I just can't stomach playing for 50mins, being close to winning and then some mistake is made and you lose.

>>375533327
>Braxis Holdout
>Bad
Are you fucking stupid or have you not played fucking Infernal Shrines where it snowballs like a fucking LoL game?

>>375534079
>IT'S SHIT! IT'S SHIT! IT'S SHIIIIIIIIIIT! WHY AREN'T YOU ALL LISTENING TO ME! PLEASE! I'M ALONE!

lol whatever man, I'm going to go enjoy some HOTS :)

>>375534470
The payload map is new so it has a higher chance of being selected.

>>375516063
awesomenauts is still the best one

>>375534038
ho man it gets even better, the skins were priced at like 10 to 15 euros per skin as well.

2.0 changed nothing else, gameplay wise the game is still a broken piece of shit in terms of balancing, some heroes are simply way too strong on certain maps and completely useless on others. The problem is in the core game design philosophy of thinking you can balance an ever-expanding roster of heros that play on randomly rotating maps with varying types of game mechanics. Now the maps are already a problem in some areas in that the distance to travel between lanes varies a lot on some maps and on others is next to none.

On top of that they keep releasing new overwatch heroes and almost all of them release in a completely broken OP state considering a lot of them are based around high mobility. Genji is the latest joke they put into the game and he has dota levels of high mobility in a heroes of the storm watered down game. And then there's lucio, currently one of the better support heroes because of his insane mobility and buffs that compliment each other as if you're playing multiple support heroes at once.

This game is a joke and there's a good reason it's dying.

>>375534685
I should have said 6 'protected core'. 4 of them were payload. whoops. protected core is the lamest mode because I want to destroy the buildings myself

>>375534701
Yeah that sucks but there really is no feeling like having a close game at 50 mins and punishing an enemy mistake to win the game. When you invest so much time into one game the highs are so much higher, feels great to me.

>>375533492
>>375533492
>>375533492
>>375533492

/thread

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>>375534816
>it's dying

>>375534729
Pretty much everyone agrees braxis holdout is terrible, even pros. Its just too big.
Unless I'm thinking about one of the other starcraft maps.

>>375516063
I play dota and paragon and I like hots because its casual as fug but the heros have better abilities and gimmicks than most games. And I don't feel like playing a game for 45-1hr most of the time anymore. Also being able to play as characters I care about feels good. If it was the same game but a bunch of literally whos I wouldn't care for this game.

>>375534816
I like how every Blizzard game is dying, but never actually die.

yea. I used to hate the game, but now play quite a lot.

>>375534860
Oh no I actually love The Ravenlord verus Gravekeeper map, it has the highest potential for come backs out of the current maps, but I do agree it feels weird because you can't really control the pace of the game.

>>375535258
its because they really only piss off a small % of people on the net that care that much about their games. But the normies still play em and buy em.

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>>375531763
My nigga
>pick abathur
>everyone gets salty
>proceed to get mvp and carry the game so long as allied team arent complete retards
>highest in all stats bar healing.
>even if loosing can dual soak lanes to pick up the slack
>like no other moba hero
>Not even an op hero
is abathur the best thing to happen to the genre?

>>375531763
Tried him this morning but shit was so unbearable I quit halfway through the match (bot match solo, thankfully), interesting skill set but I'm not sure how to make it work

>>375535415
Every publisher pisses off that small % of people that care that much about games because all they do is get mad at shit. All I ever hear about anything anymore is "it's shit."

People just really like failure for some reason. That Yooka Laylee game was bland and forgettable but it wasn't terrible, but people still howled about how much of a blunder it was. It wasn't Mighty Number 9 bad or anything.

>>375535541

damn son, you played a lot of aba

>>375535541
I'm going to add LittleDragon, Zentafer and BunniDolly, check what friends they have in common then DDS you boy, you made a mistake posting about a video game on /v/

>>375535713
I'm in gold and people aren't this bad what teir is this?

>>375535773
my battletag is urcle#21622 friend just to make it easier, have fun.
>>375535760
yeah aba is great fun for me, i guess i just love map management rather than being right there in the thick of it.

>>375534920
Not that guy

I feel that's actually something HotS gets right, because the game keeps the two teams closer for longer.
Almost every game I've played in HoTS has come down to one or two decisions made in the last ten minutes of the game. Granted, I haven't been playing very long, but I've never had a game flat decided in the first five minutes.
I've never had that one retard who keeps spamming the concede button after first blood. If you're behind, you feel like you can catch up if you try, and if you're ahead, you can't coast on your carry to victory, you have to keep on top of shit, because your grasp of the edge is always tenuous at best.
I think they've got a good thing going.

WHO /MEDIVH/ HERE?

>>375536178
If only Natural Selection 2 didnt' die

>>375536402
If only my friend, if only.

>>375535915

Looks like QM. If you only ever play ranked, especially at the higher tiers, it can be quite a shock to play a QM and see how fucking awful people are at the game.

>>375535105
I think you are thinking of the Nuke map, Braxis Holdout is the 2-lane Zerg Map with the beacons.

I agree the Nuke map is way too big and is just awful for counterplay as a result.

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>>375535713
good god

>>375536660
Ahh ok yeah. Braxis Holdout is pretty good actually, I think most of the king of the hill maps are fun actually.

>>375534920
As someone whose played Dota, League and all other fucking clones for years, its actually nice to play one that doesnt last 40 fucking minutes for once.

>>375535258
welcome to the blizzard fanbase, it's about as zealous as the star citizen fanbase.

the only reason the servers are still up is the same reason WoW's servers are still up, Whales.

And blizzard has managed to hook in a fucking truckload of them, just look at hearthstone, do you think they make money of off joe schmoe spending 2 to 4 dollars on a pack every 4 weeks or so? fuck no they make truckloads of money when every streamer decides to put in 500$ worth of money into new cards when they release and expansion, on top of that there's a whole army on youtube doing the same thing.

Then there's WoW, nowadays if you want to play free2play you can, BUT the amount of time one has to put into the game to grind out gold for the free2play token is long enough that the majority of WoW players won't have the time to do it. So that leaves the majority of the WoW playerbase with having to buy the subscriptions to keep playing earning blizzard lots of $$$, now how do you keep making money when you're already making money? You start fishing for whales in your market, you enable microstransactions and give little nudges to buy shit like a free goodie with your purchase, and there you have your whales that buy every mount from the store.


Now heroes of the storm is simply not making enough money for them, see not a lot of people even whales are attracted to spending 15$ for a skin that they have to spend another 10$ on to even unlock. So they toned it down a little, rebranded it with RNG lootsystem like overwatch and are hoping for the best in how much money they can get out of whales for this game.


It's not about getting new players in, they've got enough retarded fanboys that will swallow anything they're given, the issue for blizzard is how to get $$$ out of their wallets and into blizzard's.

Welcome to what happens when corporations all engage in Ricardian Competition. The customer loses as the only thing blizzard cares about becomes how to increase profits.

>decide to try the game
>want to play artanis
>I can because he's free for people who own LotV
>nice
>find a game
>the mechanics seem fun
>actually unique unlike all the dota clones I've played before
>can't enjoy it because the internet connection at the place I moved into 4 months ago is a terribly unfunny joke
life is suffering

>>375537209
>Ricardian Competition
Ricardian Economics.

>>375537209
lmao did this nerd just write a book in a thread about a game he doesn't like about how stupid people are for liking a game he doesn't like

bruh

>>375537548
Welcome to /v/

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Suffering is being an Uther main.

>>375537209
>BUT the amount of time one has to put into the game to grind out gold for the free2play token is long enough that the majority of WoW players won't have the time to do it.
Getting gold in WoW is retardedly easy now. People had enough WoW tokens to pay for the game for the rest of their lives before the prices went up due to demand.

Also every mount from the store barely adds up to $100.

>>375537548
oh fuck off that's the essence of a /v/ poster

>>375537656
Aw uther's fine. I actually prefer him last patch to how he is now though despite people saying hes "better" now.
Give me back conjurers level one.

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>this many people on /v/ actually take Little Tykes™ My First ASSFAGGOTS this seriously

>>375515756
I played because of the event and its pretty ok. I REALLY fucking hate the game modes where its just the fucking objectives to win instead of destroying the enemy base yourself. I like that they added in new ideas but it just gets super fucking boring doing nothing but waiting for the damn objectives to keep spawning.

>>375537917
>Stop having fun
no

>>375537917
>Little Tykes™ My First ASSFAGGOTS
People literally said the same thing about WoW when it first came out. Fisherprice's my first MMO.

lucio is cancer incarnate
other than that, fun game

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>>375527305
>>375525930
Now if only people didn't yell at you for picking rain of destruction. Also he has the best poke lines in the game

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Gul'dan/Gul'dan%20-%20Default/GuldanBase_Pissed04.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Gul'dan/Gul'dan%20-%20Default/GuldanBase_Pissed08.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Gul'dan/Gul'dan%20-%20Default/GuldanBase_Pissed09.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Gul'dan/Gul'dan%20-%20Default/GuldanBase_Pissed10.mp3

>>375538424
So?

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>>375537917
>If you arent playing hardcore games then you are a baby
You almost certainly dont understand the irony of saying something like this. HotS is for casuals. Who cares, some people dont have 50 minutes to play a single match and want something faster.

>>375538659
That Shadow Council one is great.

>>375538716
It ended up being one of Blizzards most successful games ever. It also didn't happen overnight.

>>375539127
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said

Can you unlock entire heroes through loot boxes?

>>375524068
>pretending to be a Diablo fan

You do realize Blizzard charged for Necro and Assassin in D2 right?

>>375515756
So.
League : Since Xin Zhao release
Dota 2: Prior to the overhaul at which point I stopped playing it.
HoN: Played for maybe a month
Smite: Played for a month
Infinite crisis : played for 2 weeks
Adventure time : played for a month.

The game is alright but some stuff is crazy unbalanced. Some of the S tier heroes are batshit insane, Healers do way too much (see league of legends in the earlier days), and there are no items so you don't feel like you're building anything, you're just kinda along for the ride.

But that's my biggest issue with the game, you just kinda feel like you're along for the ride and that's not great imo. You almost feel like you're just playing PvE and there are other champs on the map too. Like a touch up from a tower defense.

It's fun enough to play with friends, but past that it's nothing too special. Overwatch is to FPS games as Hots is to Moba games. It's just something I can play with friends if I don't feel like thinking too much. But still have fun with it I guess. Nothing competitive though.

Guess I'll give it a download.
Are there any characters that suck, I'll use them

>>375538842
I play the game too, I just don't tryhard in ranked because I'm capable of understanding that the game is designed for casual short-match fun

I'm not telling you not to play it, I'm telling you it's embarrassing to tryhard in it
Reading comprehension

>>375539213
in theory yes.

So wait I get 20 free characters if I start playing now?

>>375539213
You can,

But the lootboxes pull from a pool of EVERYTHING you can possibly get with some weighting of rarities for the different chests. You could theoretically grind lootboxes for the skins / heroes you want but the likelyhood of it is pretty slim and will get worse as time progresses and they add more shit to the game.

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>>375539213
Yup, that's why I'm spending all my gold on re-rolling lootboxes. The newest heroes are legendary, while the other ones are epic rarity.

>>375531763
Abathur is fun as shit to play, but with QM being basically a stealthfest it's hard to really get him out there.

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Downloading.

Who has the biggest rack? This is important.

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>>375540237
>Who has the biggest rack
Sonya in her super hero skin

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>>375540237
Leoric

>>375539301

I thought Druid was in the expansion?

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>>375540404
>TFW can almost see her womanhood in her valorous skin
Top wew

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>>375540237

>>375540589
Err my bad. Been a while. Yeah Druid and Assassin. Still, them charging for new characters isn't something a "real" diablo fan would bitch about.

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>quit dota almost 3 years ago because my rage got controll over me
>don't like the looks and mechanics in lol
>really like dawngate but ea finishes it off even before it starts
>only one left is hots
Oh well.

>>375540872
play hon

>>375540796
2 characters in an expansion is fine.
Necro is just necro on his own to play through the same predetermined maps as before

>>375516063

True for me.

Farming CS is a fucking gay waste of time. HotS skipping the laning phase altogether is the best part of it.

>>375540872
>really like dawngate but ea finishes it off even before it starts
It's getting remade

>>375540990
I thought they are only charging $20 for necro? They charged full price for LOD which really wasn't shit.

>>375540968
I was when it was in beta and even bought it then.
And for that I got fucked in the ass and sent to the concentration camp that is garena after game went f2p.

>>375516063
Its faster and doesnt require alot of dedication to play, which is why I personally like it more than the others.I want to play this kind of game but not treat it like its a profession to play it.

>>375541216
Aw shit, really? Are they keeping old heroes or it's a complete rework?
That ice mage girl with shards was super fun.

>>375540990
There are going to be new maps in the necro update that will be free.

>>375539610
>tryhard

Oh, so you're one of those. Okay.

>>375516876

>tries to sneaky fuck you in the ass while feeding you sandwiches with butter only


What the fuck kind of metaphor is this

>>375541361
I don't remember what it's called, but the entire game is getting a 1 to 1 recreation with the same assets in Unity

>>375541216
Source on your claims.

>lost 7 quickplays in a row
wew lad

>>375541484
your point?
HotS is designed as a casual game.

who /lili/ here

>>375541495
>Game has Warcraft 2 cursor emotes
Fucking nice.

>>375541956
Nope. Been Auriel fan as of late.
That damage and cd reduction is just too sweet.

>>375541919
Not him but how exactly does on tryhard in HOTS? I wonder this because I'm always the carry or our team is losing because of outright retarded shit. I never bitch at my team but I always wonder how fucking braindead people can be to not push a clear lane with bruisers/boss/siege. Am I a tryhard because I do something that is common fucking sense?

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>>375542210
>Auriel
That's the fuckin shit. Still prefer Uther more.

>>375541227
>LoD was just 2 characters
This might be the dumbest post about Diablo I've ever seen.

>>375522704
That's really depressing if true. Dawngate was a fun game.

>>375542409
That's because you don't understand how inference or implication works.

>>375540764
Tyrande is an ass and thighs woman, not breast.

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>>375541956
>support
I want to, I really do, but its never a fun experience compared to other types. I like having Li Li with me, but I just cant have fun playing her.

>>375542359
I still don't understand how to properly play him.
Seems a bit too risky for my taste.

>>375526359
This. I like HotS because I'm sick of Dota and LoL is dead to me.

The game may be strategically simple but the heroes are a lot of fun to play. Mechanically, they feel solid, like they'd fit right into an action RPG or something.

The fact that matches only last a maximum of 20 minutes if a big plus. If I'm losing I don't want to be sitting around all afternoon waiting for the match to end.

>>375516063
I like most of em except for LoL.

>>375542502

I highly doubt it. But yeah, pity it was dropped, and EA chose the single most dickish way of going about it.

i played dota for years

my entire clasroom skipped school to go play dota -girls watched me wreck the class jocks, shit was so cash-

this game absolutely takes down its trousers and shits down the neck of all other games in the genre, not because of how it was at launch but what the dev team did for it and are doing for it, I can only wish all my multiplayer games have this kind of dev team, literally no deprecated heroes, if gazlowe or stitches are shit tier we fucking work them and work them and work them until they become viable in some capacity

not much fun to watch, extremely fun to play

>>375542621
Even if I read the post as "LoD as a whole didn't add much", it's still the dumbest thing I've read about diablo.

>>375542659
Then don't play Lili.
Aurel, Uther and tyrande can be aggressive and still function really well as supports.
>>375542680
Drop the hammer on all the assholes. He is a bit risky due to being best utilized in the front line, but I find he also works really well for pulling people off your back line.

>>375516063
That's true for me. I've tried to get into Paragon lately but those 1-hour matches were too long.

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>HotS is legitimately Blizzard's best game at the moment

What the fuck happened?

>>375542819
The same reason you praise it is the same reason I probably won't ever play it. How am I supposed to get familiar with a competitive game that has such a constantly changing meta? It'd be like if Chess got balance patches.

>>375543173
Isn't hearthstone still their biggest cash cow?

>>375543173
It's also their only game to still have Varian. Coincidence?

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>>375525930
sorry anon but i think you posted the wrong hero

>>375542864
Then you haven't read much diablo discussion and you need to take your nostalgia goggles off. As someone who was pressured into buying LoD after putting the game down, it was a pretty big rip off. Blizzard was literally known for ripping people off with expos though with the exception of brood war. There is a reason why tons of people who owned LoD stayed on vanilla.

>>375542657
This. Maiev is gonna be the titcow.

how do i git gud

i can't really learn shit if me and my rando team mates are turbo shitters

>tfw you enjoy playing Anub Arak

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The maps are fucking shit
>Dragon Shrine
>HEY CAP GUYS WHERE IS EVERYONE OH SHIT A FUCKING SCALIE IS DESTROYING OUR BASE
>Cursed Hollow
>WHERE IS TEAM WE NEED TO GET THE RAVEN TRIBUTE
>Haunted Mines
>GET THE SKULLS GUYS WHY DONT WE HAVE ENOUGH SKULLS

>>375541581
Shrine of imanna or something like that. They can't monetize it, so I wonder how it's gonna stay afloat.

this thread made me redownload it, holy hell these new maps man, I have NO idea whats going on

>>375543443
He's legitimately a good hero though. CC for days, tanks ability damage like a king.

Been playing this game since the Dehaka patch last year, and the game's gotten better and better.

People say that the game is too shallow to be good, but I disagree. It's deep enough for the scope of the rounds, and the game's focus on tactics rather than growth (though growth is important, like the rush to 10), so you get to the parts that are most fun in games like these: The teamwork and the action.

>>375543603
If your team lacks damage or your dps is just bad in general he can feel helpless to play.

I've only ever played this game for the OW rewards and will likely never play it again. Been having fun with friends scrubbing Beginner bot games as ETC/E.T.C.

>>375543495

What, is EA holding on to the copyright after they binned the game?

>>375543443
I had 80% winrate on him till late patches.
Now people are expecting me to go full dive/shield build and I fucking hate it.

>>375543714
That could be said of practically every tank.

>>375543331
What? Maybe cause niggas was broke and people were still skeptical about expacs and getting ripped off back in the day. Everyone eventually realized that LoD made the game infinitely better and bought it. Runes, a new act, two characters, hirelings can follow anywhere, a smattering of new items, oh and an upgrade from 640*480 to 800*600.

You're retarded.

>>375543331
People stayed on Vanilla because they thought runewords were imbalanced for the most part. A subjective opiniom on the content introduced does not mean there wasn't justification for the price. An act, 2 characters, ubers, uber d, socketable system, synergy system etc was more than enough. Your only argument against it is "people on the internet didn't like it so it wasn't worth the price tag".

>>375516063
>Friend got me into League
>I only liked characters with high skill caps, and I wasn't that good
>Got annoyed with all the shit talk and micro management that was REQUIRED to play correctly.
>Tried Dota 2, hated it after one game. It's a more idiotic LoL
>HotS comes out, give it a try
>It's simple and fun, even the shitty characters
>Play it every now and then just for a bit of fun'
>2.0 update makes it even more fun because of free cash shop shit

Heroes is the only moba I've played and liked enough to play for more than a week. It's still part of the shittiest and least fun genre, but at least it's amusing here and there.

>>375543903
I'll give you runes. The resolution upgrade, items, and hireling upgrades is a fucking joke and a perfect example of Blizzard ripping people off as other games were patching that stuff in for free at the time. Just like flying mounts being a key selling point of BC while other MMOs launched with them.

>>375544086
I just will never understand how people enjoy a competitive game where mechanical skill and judgement are secondary to how many forum posts and wiki pages you've read and memorized.

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>>375533139
>Tfw when I realize how safely you can stack with the monstrosity
>Enemy team can't stop me or gank it
>Assfuck the enemy team because monstrosity balls out of control in the later levels

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>>375544086
I find myself unable to get upset at it, even when my team mates are fucking retards and throw matches. The heroes are fun to play, the maps give you some nice variety. It has its flaws and some of the maps are shit, but nothing's perfect.

I played it before this update and the payment model was fucking cancer, but now that they've given it the Overwatchization it's a lot more sane.

>>375544053
>uber d
You are remembering stuff wrong my friend. Uber D wasn't introduced until LOD was nearly dead.

>>375544219
Since I was actually alive and playing video games at the time I'm going to have to ask you to give me a specific example of a game that gave as much quality of life and content additions in the same time frame as LoD, because I don't think it exists.

>>375543826
Yes. It's how they got the assets in the first place.

i dunno, it's fun? in that bejeweled kind of way, you can just pick it up and play a match and have fun.

there's no lasting impact like with dota. there are no stakes to get invested in, it's very disposable. and it's trash to watch. i haven't played dota in 2 years for instance but i still regularly watch it played competitively.

>>375525930
I feel like a better spell could have been in-place of corruption.

>>375544575
Like what?

>>375544337
>I played it before this update and the payment model was fucking cancer,
even before the update they threw gold at you left and right. getting the heroes you liked was the easiest ive ever seen in a moba, let alone getting the entire roster.

>>375544612
Seed of corruption, Curse of weakness or something.

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how is that wall going anons

>>375544828
It kept the Scourge out.
So pretty good, I guess.

>>375544438
I'm 32 so don't try that shit. Content additions were common in patches back then, especially in MMOs. This is one of the original complaints about DLC. With the exception of the additional act, there were literally mods that were adding more content to games than LOD did at the time.

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>>375538659
That last one gets me. Where do you find these individually?

>>375544379
Just stop posting.

>>375515756
Game's pretty polished but the way mechanics and all works it's just like Overwatch on top-down area with lanes. There's nothing wrong with it but the game doesn't have enough depth to support longevity.

However, I'm going to play ~20 matches and see what happens.

Game also is typical Blizzard game: anything what you do is supposed to be rewarding and in the end nothing is rewarding because there is really no skills needed as such. That's annoying philosophy and this is also what killed WoW...

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DON'T-UH MAKE ME USE MY-UH SECRET GAS UH-TTACK!

>>375544828
He's got a weird sword. I expected a Rapier or something.

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>checking for worthwhile skins
>this shows up
Someone port this to Garry's Mod, i need to test some things.

>>375545047
Hinga Dinga Durgen.

>>375544993
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/index.html

You will find the intro lines, poke lines and lines when they get certain kills. But I'm not sure if everything is included there

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>>375545003
Why? Uber D was literally patched into LoD 2-3 years after release. The community was dead/dying.

>>375541919

the point is that you're a faggot because you're using a completely nebulous term

>>375545294
Cool, thanks. I'm mostly looking for poke lines.

can mods start deleting this shilling posts LMAO

embarasing, for the last week there has been this same hots thread promoting this dogshit game

>>375545369
>argue semantics instead of the actual point
wew

>>375543212
this game isn;t like dota, them making all heroes viable doesnt mean you need to build X item set and play a certain way like in dota

they just make shit so that people actually have options and you always pick talents depending on whats best vs the enemy team or what your team needs

dont even expect people to keep up with the patch notes, I don't, I just hop in and play, maybe look up some builds if I really arent sure after a major hero overhaul

remember talents arent items, you actually are a usefull team member here instead of a liability if you want to try something weird, just hop in and play and have fun

Quickest way to earn loot boxes?

Using the same hero a lot seems to earn them really slow, should I keep leveling different heroes?

>>375537209
Do you understand how many players HS has and how quickly those card packs add up?

>>375544532
> there are no stakes to get invested in, it's very disposable.

If this was remotely true then why are all the dota/LoL players I encounter absolute garbage on the game? Not trying to fling shit, I recognize those games are more complicated but I think there's a bit of dunning kruger going on.

>>375545604

use that brain of yours my son.

you can level a hero once per game up until hero lvl 3. you get a loot box every level up, and you get a rare loot box with every 5 level ups.

what do you think would be the fastest way to net lootboxes?

>>375545535
What are people suppose to talk about on /v/.

>>375539987
Yes. Take the chance even if you don't want to play it. You might like it in the future

>add chests to the game
>call it a game overhaul
The base is still shit.

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>>375545746
keep using low level heros then

thanks anon

>>375545679
>If this was remotely true then why are all the dota/LoL players I encounter absolute garbage on the game?
just because someone plays dota/LoL doesn't instantly make them a pro at all mobas. i'm just saying dota clearly has a higher skill ceiling. the fact that hots, competitively, is barely worth acknowledging says a lot.

playing heroes of the storm feels like playing hearthstone. you just go through matches like you're playing rock paper scissors, duration wise. and if you lose you just shrug and move on, because you didn't care if you win or lose.

>>375533139
>>375544330
the abomination should gain physical size and movement speed as it grows, so that it eventually becomes the size of a boss and moves at like 130% movespeed

>>375545965

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We post best waifu
I'll start

>>375543413
find hero that you enjoy playing and proceed to wreck shit

>>375543310
My nigga. So fucking satisfying.

Gonna download and start it this week

I dropped LoL but the champs I enjoyed playing the most were Draven, Lee Sin, Viktor, and Azir.

Any similar heroes here?

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>>375546039
>ywn fuck her asshole
why live

>game is so desperate for players that it has to do ANOTHER cross-promotion with Overwatch to convince people to play it

>>375545996
>if you lose you just shrug and move on, because you didn't care if you win or lose.

Serious question. How is this different than any other moba? The reason I ask is because it appears to me as someone who is new but trying to learn that 99% of moba players are absolute trash to the point they don't even understand map objectives.

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Should I reroll? I have zarya and don't really like her, don't have Tracer but kinda want her, I also have her other turbo skin

>>375543467

>have to play the game to win
>with your team

wtf who thought this was okay???

Hey Guys I play Zagara, Lt Morales and Auriel.


Is that good?

>>375546316
>Lee Sin
Karazim kinda.
No idea who those others are.

whens arakkoa hero

>>375545667
do you know how many of those every now and then card packs are bought with in game gold unlocked through f2p?

all that gold adds up to fuck all

>>375546015
Monstrosity would be disgustingly overpowered if it got innate movement speed bonuses. You can already give it a speed boost with one of the talents and late game it crushes tank characters in seconds. You'd be able to solo an entire team because late game monstrosity has more health than said tanks.

Mained Thresh in League, any big dick supports like him here?

>>375546316
>Draven
the best big fuck-you bruisers are artanis, varian and maybe something like sonya

>Lee Sin
probably illidan, genji or zeratul

>Viktor
i don't really remember what his gimmick was besides doing vector targeted damage and throwing that meme cloud on people. ragnaros has a vector nuke thing like he does. kael thas is the king being a slow moving fuck-you aoe damage mage though

>Azir
ragnaros can become a tower himself but that's about it

I enjoy Alarak even if most of his traits are shit.

>>375516063
I've put 1.9k hours in dota 2 and find HoTS hero design better

Show me a moba with a comfier hero than cho'gall

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The progress this game has made since release is impressive.

I give Blizzard a LOT of shit for being top jews and making their long lasting fannchises shitty, but this game has only improved over the past two years and it's been a fun ride.

I hope 2.0 is signs of what's to come because I'm optimistic.

>>375546654
>zagara
>auriel

my nigga

>>375546812
Rehgar is huge dick support. No pull mechanic, but he has the highest auto attack damage of all supports, and his ghost wolf is meant to be used offensively with it's lunging auto-attack.

Flexible builds as well, can lean to be extra-offensive, utility, or healing.

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>>375546039
>>375546479
What if I want to fuck her face?

>>375532526
depends on your teammates, warrior comps are decent for hatting because you can enhance their tankiness

I just really like how the game is like a Blizzard Remix. Almost every hero has a skin as if it was from another game and the mix of heroes from different games doing thing things like trying to stop a zerg rush is just fun too me. And Mecha Tassadar is awesome.

>>375546569
it's different because in something like lol or dota the longer round times make you invested in the outcome of the game. when you play a game of dota you know you're in it for the long haul so you really want to win.

>>375546929
HoTS hero design is kind of boring like LoL hero design, most heroes have got a gap closer and a stun and a damage/aoe ability or a support ability. ults don't really feel like game changers the way they do in dota.

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>Shitty overwatch map instead of Tristram/Rock n' Roll racing/Onyxia's Lair or the other dozen or so maps they promised five fucking years ago

>>375530192
You'll only get A.I. quests until you hit level 5, which takes about as many games to get passed that.

>>375547014
thanks friend.

I was worried I had bad taste

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>>375515928
this is an 18+ message board, please leave

Is this like traditional MOBAs where everyone has to play a role and shit or can I pick whoever and we can win games?

The biggest thing I hate about MOBAs is having to fill a role so you have to play a character you don't want to sometimes just to balance out your team.

>>375547159
>most heroes have got a gap closer and a stun
>When varian was top OP for a long time for having a single stun

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>>375547206
>Kel'Thuzad has been in development since the game was in beta
>"A HIGHLY ANTICIPATED HERO WILL BE SHOWCASED IN THE NEW CINEMATIC!!"
>It's fucking D.va

>>375533669
The last 4 heroes were non-Warcraft characters (including D.Va). There might be a lot of Warcraft heroes but they're at least trying to divvy it up.

>>375547206
It was bound to happen, Overwatch is popular as fuck.

>>375547206
This does trigger me they teased the car for ever ago.

>>375547206

If there's one thing this game ahs going for it, it's that given enough time everyone will probably get what they want.

There's no Smash bros "slots" in this game for shit, so as long as they are around they keep adding shit in.

>>375547304

QM is no rules, pick a guy and queue up. Ranked play obviously you want a coherent composition with all the right pieces, but there's a lot of flexibility with talents and maps to pull out some shelved "suboptimal" hero and style on people.

>>375546926
>Play Alarak
>Shitty teammates
>Get to listen to Alarak verbally shit on them all game long, as well as the enemy team
Best voicelines in the game.

>>375547367
>Get generic siege tank instead of based DUKE

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>>375547206

Odds are, we'll get it eventually.

>>375516063
This is true for me. I love competitive games. Went to EVO and did decent in SFV. Former CS champion. Dota and LoL always came off like melee, for me, casual games that were exalted to competitive due to ego and the low skill floor. I've never had a HOTS player profess to me they have skills on a joke genre so I'm able to have more fun on them.

>>375547159
>when you play a game of dota you know you're in it for the long haul so you really want to win.

I thought you can surrender in those games and you can't in hots?

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>>375547493
>>375547367
>Blackthorne no where on dev calendars

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>>375547121
I enjoy seeings skins that offer 'what-if' scenarios for characters, such as Shando Illidan or Belf Tyrande. Subtle little references like pic related are also good and of course the blatant fanservice stuff such as Succubus Kerrigan or Cowgirl Valla which let you know the team isn't full SJW retard.
>>375547453
Alarak and Abathur were the only good things to come out of SC2.

>>375547718
can't surrender in dota.

why surrender in hots? the game is over in 5 minutes

>>375547493
>Duke
>In a siege tank

>>375547304
It's WAY wayyy more flexible than any other moba when it comes to team comps.

>>375547373
The next 20 heroes should not be Warcraft trash to even it out.

How can people even tell all those orks apart?

>>375547453
>EEEHHHHMMMNGGGGEEHHHHHHacceptable...

>>375519363
To be fair, the bar wasn't set very fucking high to begin with.

>>375547839
>the game is over in 5 minutes

I wish. Most of the time you are watching your team throw over a 30 min period.

>>375547839
>the game is over in 5 minutes
bullshit

>>375547762
there are so many eva tints in the game, it's incredible

>>375547985
>>375547984
average hots match is like 15 mins

>>375547762
I really want to see an Orc skin for Probious

Or a fleshy Variant

>>375548043
I've been playing since beta.
No it isn't.

>Hearthstone still mostly ignored as an IP
>No Dr.Boom
>No Reno Jackson
>No Patches the Pirate
>No Elise
>No AYA FUCKING BLACKPAW

>>375547762
thanks doc

>>375548043
Literally the fastest match I've seen is 15 mins.

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>>375548139
No problem.

>>375548120
I want the Innkeeper as a hero who uses card abilities as his spells.

>>375528270
>Even if you spam NIGGER in chat you wont get banned

sold!

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Are there any strikingly bad characters or are they all pretty good?

>>375548437
There are definitely different tiers of characters and some are map specific and team specific but I wouldn't call them bad.

>>375542216
get some rank and you'll see

eventually games stop turning into stomps and they come to down-to-the-wire playmaking fests

source: am D1 teetering on Masters

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>>375547367
>Kel'thuzad finally announced
>Gets his own trailer
>Uther coming up to slap his shit because he's doing some ritual
>DBZ fight goes on for a little while
>What Kel'thuzad was doing turns out to be a portal
>Tremble heroes and despair! doom has come to the nexus!

Only thing that will make it worth the wait