I actually fucking love stellaris

Is it really as shit as everyone makes it out to be? I wanna try it.

>>375501289
It's pretty ebin. Not as complex as other Paradox titles though

>>375501289
First decent 4x space game since galciv2

>>375501368
I never actually played a space 4X game. I don't think Beyond Earth counts, just one planet.

>>375501247
Same, senpai, same.

Which DLC is real DLC and which DLC is meme DLC? I know it's always a game itself to properly purchase a Paradox game. I'll probably get it next sale.

What exactly is 4x? And what differntiates it from simply being called "strategy"?

>that face

>>375503060
Explore, Expand, Exploit and Exterminate.

I think it just means it's a strategy game with different layers to it, so there's exploration, diplomacy, combat etc, rather than just one like Supreme Commander, Starcraft etc having only combat yet begin a strategy game.

>>375503140
ALIUMS

>>375503415
'N

cool it with racial epithets

>>375503337
Hm, OK. Going by that I'd even call X-Com 4x.

>The default Human for the "Good Humans" is a strong female PoC
>The default Human for the "Evil Humans" is white
Oh well, the Commonwealth has Wormholes, so it's automatically better anyway.

>>375503575
X Com is mostly combat with some RPG mechanics, there's no diplomacy or exploration.

>>375503575
That's retarded, like calling Dark Souls a wrpg.

>>375503526
they cant help being retarded, they saw a black person in OP's post and it broke their poor little peanuts

>>375503575
One of the layers of XCOM is tactics, so no.

>>375503632
I havent played this game, but you're clearly wrong just by looking at OPs image.

Literally shows the avatar for a Militant Isolationists, who threatens to kill you alien scum, if you enter their territory, is a black female

>>375501247
>discover that a far away star is encircled by a ring world
>humanity gets fucking hyped
>start a dangerous and costly expedition to make contact with such an incredibly advanced species
>finally reach it
AYO
HOL
UP

>>375501289
The combat is retarded. You have zero ability to manage your fleet except for using your emergency FTL. Other than that it's solid.

>>375503745
>>375503659
How is tactics detrimenatl to it being 4x? And there's exploration. In Xcom2 at least. But yeah, no diplomacy. Nevermind then.

>>375501247
>human

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>>375501247
>le triforce meme

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>>375501289
It's game where you need to find a way to have fun yourself, no handholding like "tech tree is same everytime" or other shit
Some people just hate sandbox genre

Great the Drumpfkins are here being toxic af like always. Cant even have a good discussion anymore, yo...

>>375503949
If you're going by literal definition, it's never going to work out right. In that definition, nearly every game is an RPG, and almost every online game is a MOBA. Just gotta accept certain genre names for certain games even if they are retarded. What actually makes the game different is that you're building some sort of civilization and conquering with it within the same turns, while XCOM has you building a base and researching in one part of the game, then the combat takes place after a loading screen with a completely different perspective and gameplay mechanics.

>>375501247
>Human

More like a chimp race am I right my fellow /pol/acks?

>>375504127
sage

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Same

>>375501247
I'm vaguely interested in getting Stellaris. Can I ask why all the responses in the OP image are positive?

>>375504076
I actually like that aspect of EU4 a lot, just setting your own goals and shit. Honestly, it feels like your usual 4X like Civ or EL is working your way towards a specific win. This one sounds more like it has grand strategy elements then.

>>375501289
It's a completely forgettable game that you can play for hours on end.

>>375504076


It's a sandbox with nothing to do but send your doomstack against the enemy doomstack and slowly paint the galaxy in a different color

I guess if you're autistic and/or love jerking off about that shitty description you put for your custom race and about all the epic stories that are happening but shit

>>375504127
>yo...
Very subtle of you

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>>375501247
>System surveyed:Arrakis

>>375504076
Psionic ascension > Cybernetic ascension > Biological ascension

Prove me wrong.

>>375503827
The fallen empires are randomly selected when starting a new game and they all act like they're above you. If you keep the default races, humanity can be picked as a fallen empire.

>>375503959
*LIPS SMACK*

>>375504219
Because OP played as a human and he met a black who left space eons ago aka we wuz space travelers and sheit

>>375504185
Huge
16-18 empires
0 advanced
4 fallen
Ring or spiral
ftl methods are everything or forced hyperlines
Iron mode on, can't play without it anymore

>>375501247
its fun

>>375501976

Utopia is a must have DLC

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>>375504337
>tfw getting psionics

>>375504219
I played Stellaris a bit but it was months ago so not too sure, but I don't remember any way to tell a race you just met to fuck off (or negative responses in general). You can insult them in the diplomacy options after you met them though

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>>375501247
Where's the Nazis in space

>>375504389
WE WUZ

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>>375504395
Thank you, I was just wondering why there was no option to tell them to go and fuck themselves before they demand gibs.

>>375504407
I've no idea how anyone can play with hyperlanes. Their random placement always royally fucks me up.

>>375504483
Rocket Scientists N Sheit!

It gets boring way to fucking fast

>>375504219
Because no agressive ethos were picked, in op images there spiritualist and collectivist(was removed in the last dlc)
For example militaristic spiritualist, or xenophobe collectivist would tell him to fuck off

>>375504482
Waiting for you to make them.

>>375501247
>shitskins think they will ever have the willpower to leave this bloody rock
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Also, not being able to change from a democracy to a dictatorship fucking sucks because you can't change your civics easily

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I can set up NAP's and own slaves. It's good to me.

>>375504482
You can play them yourselves.

Hell going all genocide on dirty ass aliums you've conquered and replacing them with your own race actually requires some decent planning.

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>>375504471
thanks

>>375504590
Right that makes more sense. Can you gradually change your civilizations ethos through diplomatic decisions as you grow, or are you stuck with what you choose at the start?

>>375501247
What does "Remnant" mean in Stellaris?

>>375504674
>When another race hypelanes across the galaxy to you and would have no idea you were there, but because they violated your NAP, you invade them, purge all their men and make the women slaves.

>>375504076
>TECH determined through pure RNG
>multiplayer matches before 1.4 100% depend on who gets tachyon lances first
>multiplayer matches post 1.4 and in 1.5 rely 100% on who gets end game mass drivers early because paradox can't balance for shit
>multiplayer matches lag like fuck due to multiple memory leaks that got introduced in 1.5.1 especially bad in larger universes and it gets unplayable after 100+ years where you get 20 to 30 second freezes every time a month passes because paradox can't program worth shit just like 99% of all these grand strategy/4x developers
>nickle and diming customers for 20 euros for a utopia expansion that adds a grand fucking total of 4 megastructures, there are mods that added more FOR FREE BEFORE UTOPIA WAS EVEN ANNOUNCED
>100% pirateable and no reason to ever buy it
>basic 4x QoL features that were there in fucking 90s games are completely absent and have to be ghetto rigged in with mods but because of a lack of built in support most of those mods get abandoned within 2 updates or flat out don't or barely work towards their stated goal (spread starts, no clustered starts, galaxy setups, more interesting resource spread rather than every quarter of the galaxy has a set of resources)
>resource management is at baby level complexity, nothing really interesting going on in end game
>ship combat is ugly and boring as fuck without mods to fix 99% of the core base game's problems by ghetto rigging fixes on it
The performance issues being re-introduced in the latest patch really killed any and all interest I had for the game. Turning the game's graphics down even further does nothing because the game for some reason decides that it needs over 16gb of RAM at post 100+ years because apparently doing additive sums for a computer is too complex for paradox to program into their game properly.

>>375503698
>>375503526
Nu-/v/ needs to leave

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>>375504674
>tfw genetically engineering your slaves into walking McNuggets™

>>375504076
What am I looking at here?

>>375504649
But you can...
Wait for the dictatorship faction=>promote them=>embrace them
>>375504764
At the start all pops have your ethos
When you start colonize other planets, some pops will pick other ethos and make factions demanding for you to pander for them
For example peaceful empire can get strong militaristic factions who will hate you for getting into federations and shit

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>>375504846
the end.

>>375504846
You can get sweet deal with warp gods
After 50 years they will demand payment, but during this years you can conquer all galaxy

>>375504815
>nu-/v/ calling others nu-/v/
Fuck off, phoneposter.

>tfw got Stellaris at launch but considering waiting for the DLC to go on sale to play again

How important is the DLC for Stellaris? If it doesn't make a huge impact, might just download it again desu

>>375503949
4X is just the name of a certain genre that has lots of things in common. Don't get caught up on the name, its a whole tradition of a certain way of making strategy games, many very very similar. Stellaris is a game made by a Grand Strategy company that plays more like a 4X.

Wars are fucking annoying as fuck

> have to scroll small fucking list to select all planets you want, cant just pick them on map or select annex option.
> have to manually deploy troops on each fucking planet

>>375504793
>hating rng tech tree
Here a good place for your opinion
>>>/trash/

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>it's still 40 yurodollars on Steam
>pirating it requires downloading 50 patches

w-well I didn't want it anyway

>>375504983
So what happened to the Imperium of Kesada? Did you fail to conuer the galaxy and the space gods wiped out your entire species Dwemer style?

>>375504780
Its meant for fallen empires, basically letting you know that they used to rule a much larger empire and they've fallen far from their glory days. They still have powerful fleets and max tech though

>>375505124
If you make the deal, unless you manage to win the game, in 50 years time the warp gods will pretty much turn all but one planet into an uninhabitable hell world and will spawn a cosmic being that will go around and fuck things up for everyone.

>>375505204
Is that something that happens ingame or are that just a trait that some civilizations spawn in with?

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Post ship builds
>pure hull damage (arc emitters and neutron torps)
>100% accuracy
>bypasses shield and armor completely
>shreds fallen ships (my 150k power wipes out 210k with 30k losses)

>>375505084
>lol I got tachyon lances because I got an event that gave me 20% research in that tech because RNG LOL
>5 years into multiplayer game guy finishes tachyon lances
>puts it on all of his ships at 7+ years
>dominates 5 other players banding together to stop him

good balance there pal.

Now post 1.5.1

>sorry bro I just got the mega cannon research tier
>well time to leave this game then
>game gets mass abandoned and no one finishes it

good game design this really. It wouldn't be such a big issue if paradox could balance worth shit but they can't so there's always 2 to 3 techs that are so gamebreakingly good that once you get them and the rest doesn't you might as well just start declaring war on everyone and go for a win by dominance before the unrest starts splintering your empire

wew sure is good to play a game for 5 hours only to realise I've been fucked over by RNG
If you want to spend all that money on an online multiplayer slotmachine you can just go to any casino and get the same service at 1/10 th the price

>>375505264
What does that give the "gods"? Why would they want that?

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>Decide to try out the 'build tall' meme
>Get three planets and only three planets
>Go for pure tech and tech ascendency
>Make a single ally- a bunch of slaving despots so the AI will never declare war on me
>Fast forward a few years
>I'm more powerful than everyone else in the cosmos due to my technology. So I just go around vassalizing people
>My tech is so fast that by the time I finish upgrading the buildings on my plant, the tech for the next set of upgrades is ready
>Start selling research agreements for mountains of cash
>The factions in my empire are super happy just to be science and robot related.

Welp, this breaks the game.

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>>375505204
normally they're literally retarded and can't build additional ships or buildings, meaning you can whittle them down to eventually becoming helpless.
Sometimes though an event will fire which removes all of their restrictions and jacks up their aggressiveness to something ridiculous, which sets them on a warpath with the rest of the galaxy.

>>375504463

source?

>>375503518
SHIET

>>375505013
>>375505013
>>375505013
Anyone?

>>375505368
They spawn in with it

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>>375505435
>BAAAAAAAAAAW I HATE PURE FUN, THE ONLY WAY FOR ME TO PLAY GAME IS PLAN EVERYTHING IN ADVANCE SO NORMAL CIV STYLE TECH TREE SHOULD BE FORCED INTO EVERY GAME OR I CAN'T PLAN FOR SHIT
Every game should fucking have rng tech trees
Fuck meta cancer and retards like you, you already killed rts genre with shit like warcraft 3, mmos with shit like wotlk and many others genres

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This would be perfect for a Star Trek full conversion mod.

>>375505506
REACH HEAVEN THROUGH VIOLENCE BABY

>>375501289
Its a space 4x Game that is simple to play but also complex if you want to delve deeper into it. The way all of the different Ethos and diplomacy functions react with eachother keeps things interesting and a lot of the random events and things you can find are pretty neat and can steer your game in a different direction.

Its the least "stale" grand strategy game ever made.

>>375503827
There are two human faction defaults. The UN type faction and the Commonwealth of Man. This is a Fallen Empire, the leader is randomly generated, just like their ethics.

>>375505758
already thought up and made anon

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Synthetic ascension really needs more flavor to it.

As it is, it's quite bland.

Every time I try to play this Im just going back to Distant worlds universe, It is just too simple

How important is it to design your own ships?
I do okay with just auto-upgrade, but am I missing out?

>bought EU4
>got bored of it before ever really finishing a game
>like space games
I don't want to risk it. $40-$70 is a lot of money for a game I might not even play.

>>375506162
Extremely.

>>375503632
>The default Human for the "Good Humans" is a strong female PoC
OP's picture shows something completely different

>>375504793
>who gets end game mass drivers
Shitter detected. It's about kinetic artillery, plasma, and energy torpedos.

>>375505841
Kinda has to be, though. For historical games, you're at least tied down to, well, history and real-life events, with way less room for random events to come in and change things up. Not that there's anything bad with that, since it's a charm in itself to see stuff like the War of the Roses or 30 Years War have a completely different outcome than the historical equavilent, but exploring space kind of needs an element of randomness for all the stuff you can discover and take advantage of.

>>375503632
Why would humans want to purify the galaxy unless they were roleplaying Space Nazis?

Elliptical galaxy or 2 arms spiral with hyperlane only?

>>375506326
so pirate it first, fag

>>375506495
That's not the default human. That's a randomized Human "Fallen Empire". Please, please don't talk about things you don't know about.

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>Play as an elvish hivemind
>Found planet with aliens in the mediaval age
>Conquered them with single unit and turned them into food for my growing empire
And then I got hit by realization about how scary space and universe are

>>375507067
>elvish
A what?

>>375505806
not only does your post have nothing to do with the game being discussed, most people here can recognize thats probably another shitty /pol/ shop that they love to make since they lack actual evidence for their claims
Nice post!

>>375507043
The thing is I don't think I'd ever shell out $70 for this game. I payed less for EU4 despite having much more content.

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>>375507227
There's a space elf race.

>>375507417
So pirate it and then don't.

>>375504219
Because of the ethos that OP picked.

You have 3 points to dictate the social mores of your civilization, OP picked collectivist (the triangle made of triangles) and fanatic spiritualism (dude meditating).

If you want dialog which is antagonistic and threatening you need to pick an ethos like xenophobia or militarism. Maybe individualistic.

>>375507460
Well shit, good to know
I need to see what new races they added, haven't played in a while

>>375505841
>The way all of the different Ethos and diplomacy functions react with eachother keeps things interesting

but they don't interact with each other at all, besides giving you a set bonus/malus to the diplomacy score
> lot of the random events and things you can find are pretty neat and can steer your game in a different direction.

Oh shit, +20 sciences from an event, now the game is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

People should consider this game like a Role playing sort of game, from building your empire and creating some lore behind them, to imagining intricate inter-empire relationships and so on. The game itself still needs a few more DLCs and expansions untill it will shine on it's own.

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So anything I should change in order to achieve machine supremacy?

>>375507760
Pick a trait that allows you to build droids from the start

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>>375504482
Here you go

>>375505695
>YO OPIN UR ION

>>375507871

He already did, that's what's Mechanist for.

>>375508059
>hyperspace

>>375507871
That's mechanist

>>375507552
I hope you use the workshop.

Some of the mods they have for Stellaris are pretty incredible. Ranging from complete overhauls of the combat system and added tech trees for "super weapons", to entirely new races with their own custom ship designs- for instance you can play as the Imperium from 40k with ship and station models to match. There's also a mod which adds a kind of RPG leveling system to your leader I've been meaning to try.

>>375508059
>stereotypical man race
>spiritualist
Yeah because playboys are all over yoga and shit.

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r8 my empire, friends

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>>375508330
You're an underage idiot

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>>375508059
I seriously hope you got the "We are the Imperial Navy" mod from the workshop.

>>375508390
no bio/10
try again

>>375507727
I know this is bait but you're mostly not wrong

>>375508409
>xenophobe/mil/spirit/wormhole
2/10 on originality
2 points just because you aren't human

>>375505974
It should have a reaction to the robot uprising Crisis
Like you could get the option to join them or they completely ignore you or some shit
Would make doing it more interesting

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>>375504482

>>375508627
They are human, they are talking to the birb.

It's literally a day 1 straight out of /pol/ kiddy 0/10.

>>375508330
If you want to play the Imperium of Man from 40k you really need to go spiritualist.

Ethos dictate what kind of techs you can unlock, and spiritualist civilizations get access to Psionics. Eventually letting you get psyker combat squads and drives (best in the game actually) which allow you to travel through the warp.

>>375508627
>>375508694
I meant to the >>375508390

Just happily spent the last 7 hours on it, so I'd say it's pretty good

>>375505103
You are stupid dont u? You animeposter permavirgin you can download the entire game whit the lastest dlc all include on pirate bayor that fakeskidrows webs

>>375509038
Please don't butcher my native language like that again.

>>375505560
xvideos.com/video441866/amateur_asian_big_boobs_strip_tease_

>>375508694
I hate the /pol/ association, the ethos setup is perfect if you want to play as the Imperium from 40k. Which, admittedly, is a fascist dystopian shithole of a civilization.

But they kind of make sense in a universe literally plagued by malign space gods who mutate and defile everything they touch and alien species that travel the stars devouring galaxies.

Crusader Kings 2 is so much better it's ridiculous

>>375504337
biological ascension lets you make other races delicious and nutritious so that's the best one

>>375504194
Worst Kingdom.

>>375509776
There is a big overlap. /pol/ really started with people ironically liking those memes and then applying them in real life. All /pol/tards are heavy into that fascist-worship kind of 40k stuff. Obviously it doesnt always apply the other way around - plenty of nerds just like it because shit is cool, but you gotta understand the association exists for a reason.

>>375509776
It doesn't make sense, that's part of the point. If they just did what the Emperor wanted and do basically the exact opposite of that things would be far better.

>>375501247
HOL UP

>>375504194

>abimition

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>>375509928
does it make you upset that people are voting for fascism over communism, sweetie? :)

and do you understand what that means in the long-term, honeybuns? :)

oh boobykins! you're so naive, sugarpoo!

>>375510223
Jesus fuck all /pol/tards are broken like this aren't they I swear.

>>375504261
>It's a sandbox with nothing to do but send your doomstack against the enemy doomstack and slowly paint the galaxy in a different color

They've improved the combat since release, but otherwise you should try the Improved Space Battles mod series:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=692028161

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>>375510435
yeah winning the election really ruined those poltards huh

everywhere i go poltards whining in the street

crying into their pumpkin spice lattes

>>375510442
>You only get 1 planet due to some doomsayers escaping in time.
Is it your homeworld?

Can the AI do this? Because that sounds kind of jimmy rustling.

Is the god actually defeatable?

>>375510530
Every single one goddamn mindbroken, it's insane.

>>375510223
>trump
>fascist

he's just out to bleed america for all the money he can.

>>375504337
I love the boons you can get from going into the shroud. Recently managed to beat a roll check which left my faction leader an immortal "Chosen One". Don't need to worry about him kicking the bucket anymore and the societal boons are fucking awesome.

>>375510223
>reddit spacing
Back to r_donald with you.

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>>375510657
pic related is my favorite one

>>375510673
it's about what he stood for that's got letist runts in a panic

>>375510223
>>>/mlpol/

Please go and stay go.

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>>375501247
> OP be like

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what do

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>>375510742
>still trying to push the "reddit spacing" meme

helloooooooo shareblue!

>>375510857
>>>/neogaf/

/pol/ and /v/ are the same userbase now and there's nothing you can do to change this fact

>>375510486
>They've improved the combat since release, but otherwise you should try the Improved Space Battles mod series:

Doesn't vanilla still force you to use the dumb wedge formation and does the mod fix it?

>>375510723
dude chill

>>375510875
What do you think you do? Subjugate them.

>>375510905
>REEEE WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP CALLING OUT MY SHITTY PROSE!!!!!!!!
Youre vacation is over, redditfag. You have to go back.

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>mfw Awakened Empire
>mfw War in Heaven

>>375511075

how frustrating is it for you that your efforts here have no effect, and often the opposite

you must feel very intellectually inferior to be outdone by aspergic basement dwelling "misanthropes"

commit suicide, nobody will miss you

>>375501247
>not downloading the mods which makes all the human races whites when you could
>not downloading the german outfits when you could

You are playing this game wrong, plebs

>>375511353
So I take it Paradox made the mods stop working?

>>375511353
>playing as a humans
You and meta faggots are cancer of the gaming

>>375510827
Talking about you, dummy.

>>375511353
>germans
no, you are playing the game wrong, cucklover

>>375510030
>If they just did what the Emperor wanted and do basically the exact opposite of that things would be far better.

Depends, I agree the Eldar and Tau should make for natural allies, but most of the other factions are literal monstrous hordes.

As for the kind of fascist and overbearing rule of the Imperium on its colonial worlds, keep in mind that a Chaos cult left unchecked will damn entire systems and risk the livelihoods of all nearby neighbors. You need to nip that shit in the bud.

So you really have to look at the cost of an error when encroaching on possible heretics. False positive, you kill maybe a couple hundred innocent bystanders. False negative, you lose billions and put at risk billions more.

>>375511476
IIRC they told the guy with the phenotypes mod that he had to keep his comments section clear of racist bullshit or nazi support or they'd take it down.

>>375511476
No, they deleted mod that has link on the "my cool youtube channel with nazi shit"
Same mode was reuploaded few minutes later and it's still on the workshop

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>>375508390
Kek

>>375511534
How you fuck over chaos

>stop being religious nutjobs

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As relevant today as ever.

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>>375511557
Oy vey!

>>375511492

Fucking this, nobody plays humans in these games and the people who do are lame.

You've got dozens and dozens of templates to choose from to craft a race built around your own personal headcanon... And you choose Humanity? When I'm feeling a Humanoid angle for my current campaign dangle, I just go for that freaky pale hairless Humanoid "Elf" thing.

>>375511353
A) did something happen to these mods? were they banned cuz raciss?

B) Is it possible to split the humans into different groups with various phenotype limitations without the game considering them separate species? Nevermind the space nazis meme, it would be weird to try to make a Space China themed faction or whatever if you can't control the ethnic makeup of the human portraits

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>>375511507
so am i, that image i posted was a pic of me on election night

this pic is my cousin :( #FuckDrump

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>>375508390
>missiles

Defence structures should be reworked. I want to be able to defend and threaten like nowadays we have nukes. Yes, special space nukes

>>375511654
The Emporah tried that. The Imperium of Man was an atheist society precisely because he knew about Chaos. It didn't help, Chaos still found a way in.

Can we just gas /pol/, they're already infesting the entire site anyway

>>375508286
Eh, I played a pirated version
I'd like to buy the game but being a poorfag that isn't really an option especially what with the amount of dlcs. Doesn't look like the workshop mods are available anywhere else, either

>>375501247
WE WUZ SPACE KANGZ N SHIEEET

>>375501247
WE

>>375501247
is no one going to address the fact that every response in the OP is basically
>hello
and there's no aggressive/negative responses? literally BioWare/Bethesda tier.

>>375512250
WUZ

>>375511959
wat, ur delude

>>375512295
I noticed that, there's no way to be hostile towards xeno scum? Or can you not be hostile towards space niggas because you're also human? Either way, seems like bullshit to limit reactions in a genre where the entire point is to exterminate everyone else.

>>375512295
He has peaceful First Contact on. You can switch it to Aggressive and tell people to fuck off if you want.

>>375512295
You can tell them to fuck off if you're a xenophobe/militarist.

>>375512197
>Eh, I played a pirated version

Sorry then mate, the mod support for this game is among the best I've experienced.

>>375512295
It changes their perception of you depending on their beliefs.
If you make your empire aggressive you can use aggressive dialogue, but that player didn't build it that way.

>>375512295
see
>>375507483
>>375504590
But I guess roleplaying as a concept is too difficult for your brain
Now fuck off

>>375508531
are titans unique ships? never been able to build titan when i play stellaris

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>>375504194
>abimition

>>375512663
Yes

>>375512753
what kind of steps i need to make to get titan?

>>375512295
It's the exact opposite of their tier actually, the game has a proper roleplaying system in, whereby your options are limited by the culture and make up of your race.

>>375511959
Spoken like a true fascist.

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Does anyone know of how to cancel the Compact with the End of the Cycle? I fucked up. I fucked up real bad.

>>375512817
Explore universe

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I'm trying to make a peaceful race of environmentally-inclined bugs whose primary goal in the game is to traverse the galaxy, transforming barren worlds into lush Edens and eventually transcending the needs of flesh entirely, allowing them to continue their mission as immortal machines who draw naught from the planets they tend except raw material from asteroids and energy from the sun.

Any advice on things I should add or alter? I'm tempted to replace Materialist with Spiritual and Xenophilic with Xenophobic so Environmentalist can be replaced with Inwards Perfection, but I'm unsure.

You get a chance to rename your race when they replace their shells of chitin for shells of steel, and for these guys I intend to name them "Gardeners." God dammit Paradox when are you going to enable us to play Nomadic races? I can't fulfill my mission to convert every world into Gaia if these guys are bound to borders - hell, a Terraforming ship would be just as good.

>>375512996

You fucked up.

>>375512996
>Implying you can stop the end
Love is Over, Anon.

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>>375512996
You can't.
The galaxy will burn, and it is your fault alone.

>>375512295
>>375512541
Do you see the ethics wheel in this screenshot?

>>375507760

It dictates what kind of civilization you are. The middle selection is "Hivemind", which precludes you from any other ethics, while starting from the top and going clockwise you have: Militarist, xenophobe, egalitarian, materialist, pacifist, xenophile, authoritarian, spiritualist.

You can't chose two ethics opposite on the spectrum, and depending on the ethos you pick your civilization responds accordingly.

OP picked "Hippie Commune" as his civilization type. Hence no vitriolic responses, he also gets some different weights on available tech trees because of the ethos he picked.

>>375501289
It's a game that will be really cool when they finish it in 20 expansions.

It's missing basic features of a 4x even after the first expansion like giving different races actually different mechanics with depth instead of just mildly different governing systems.
Things like in sword of the stars where instead of warp travel you can play a race that just travels to any point at Sub-FTL speed so it takes them many years, but to make up for it they get massive amounts of units to cover their territory. They have wormholes and hyperlanes and warp travel which is "okay" but it doesn't really make empires feel distinct.

Another example would be Star Ruler 2's mainframe empire where you have to log around these massive computer ships that make your ships fight effectively with a borg hive-mind that you could easily change to be organic hivemind. I know stellaris recently added in hiveminds but to my knowledge it's just governing differences. Star Ruler 2 also has better ship customization(it needs work) but it lets you do things like "instead building 5 small ships, i want to build one of those at x50 size" it doesn't make it auto-win against 50 small ships but it has pros and cons to doing that and good flavor value. Perhaps you can do hit and run tactics, retreat and repair, wearing down enemy fleets without taking casualties. Also you can instead of saying "I want just this one gun I researched" you can stack the same gun in a different way to make it a slow firing long range weapon.

Stellaris isn't shit, it's just incomplete. I would play the hell out of it if empires actually felt drastically different rather than just mildly different flavors. And they have taken steps in this, but it's going to take a year or two or more before it potentially gets to where it should be.

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>>375501247
why are the future humans niggers?

we wuz space and shiet?

>>375513103
>Fleeting
Enjoy spending all your influence on leaders anon

>>375508658
Geezer link pal.

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>>375513176
>>375513165
>>375513152
>>375513103
After all my work,
After all of my sacrifice,
My beautiful empire is about to be buttfucked by Discount Slaanesh? Feels fucking bad man

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So cute!

>>375513665
>Feels fucking bad man

How's it feel being the Eldar?

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>>375513563

They won't be dying like flies once I start slapping CPUs on their brains.

>>375512737
/pol/ack please neck yourself

>>375509928
>All /pol/tards are...

4chan is a hivemind and opinions do not differ

>>375513540
>Humanity is traveling the stars, technological advancements have made them de facto gods with the ability to live hundreds of years and tinker with their genetics with impunity. They face a universe filled with alien intelligences housed in monstrous forms.

>ya but y they blak tho?

Fucking seriously? I fucking hope goddamn skin color isn't an issue when we're a space traveling civilization. How fucking petty can you be?

>>375503632
Sweden calling

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>>375513540

>>375511959
/pol/ is dead.

>>375513718
>tfw Slaanesh eats your soul for breakfast
>tfw Slaanesh uses your soul as a condom
>tfw Slaanesh dangles your soul in front of other Eldar to demoralize them
>tfw thanks to the Warp being temporally fucked this all happens at the same time
Being a space elf is suffering

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>>375501247
The game is pretty fun to make new races in. I would rather my customraces than the garbage the game starts with. seems like every race the game starts with is both xenophobic and militaristic. kind of annoying.

Their home system sun is named "jesus wasn't a jew"

>>375513665
This, ironically
>>375513718

You should have probably been a bit more cautious before signing a pact with a god in the shroud who literally refers to itself as "THE END OF CYCLES". No matter how powerful a boon it offers.

If I recall correctly, it even tells you "IT IS NOT YET YOUR TIME... BUT IT COULD BE" before you take the pact. What do you think it was referring to?

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>>375514050
no one likes to be niggers mate

pretty sure niggers would want to de-nigger themselves

>>375514308
It also tells you "THIS IS A BAD IDEA DON'T DO THIS" in red.

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>>375501368
GalCiv3 is good though.

>>375513241
>Do you see the ethics wheel in this screenshot?
no

>>375512568
>>375512587
>>375512640
>>375512867
cool!

>>375512642
>But I guess roleplaying as a concept is too difficult for your brain
nah, I just wasn't aware that the possible responses are determined by your ingame choices

>>375513665
What did you think would happen when you picked an option that had a big red "DO NOT DO THIS" warning?

>>375514231
Friendly reminder that unwanted contact counts as rape in sweden.

He could have literally brushed her arm in a way that made her uncomfortable and that would be a charge of rape.

>>375514225
>Jews
>Strong
>get their asses annihilated completely by everyone throughout history.
>have to "fight" with tricks, lies and conspiracy.

Can someone redpill me on /gsg/? They always talk shit about this game and HoI4 but both seem to be pretty fun.

>>375514530
Yes because if there's one thing Muslims are known for it's gently brushing a white girl's arm.

>>375514448
No, it isn't
Not even on the "passable" level
Literally trash bin tier, together with endlessgames

>>375514580
/gsg/ is a pol colony that thinks that attempting to attain maximum autism is the goal of video games.

They also forget that all the games they like were literally unplayable before they got 2-3 expansions.

>>375514580
>redpill

kys

>>375514557
literally only did it because it gives them 5% more minerals

>>375514580
/gsg/ is pure autism. Just disregard them completly.

>>375511116
>refuse to join either side
>refuse to lead the unaligned factions
>war just sits there at 1%
>ai doesn't seem to know what to do with me not participating
>unaligend factions make peace with the empires
>nothing happens

wew, top tier event paradox

>>375513540
Are humans part of the potential pre-FTL list, has anyone encountered a pre-space faring Earth in the game? Did they nuke it into a Tomb World?

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>>375514530
jesus christ read the article

>Ali then pressed down her head against his penis and raped her between 20 to 30 minutes. During the rape, he took out his mobile phone and filmed the assault, prompting the girl to ask him to put it away. Everything ended after Ali's friend Mohammed arrived at the scene.

its pretty hot but come on why are you defending these niggers?

>>375514761
Sol is a fixed system and can generate with pre-FTL humanity or tomb worlds.

>>375514761
Yeah you can discover humans at any time, I think one is pretty much present day.

>>375514725
You have a containment board, why not stay there

>>375514761
Yes

>>375514761
Yeah you can find medieval earth or earth nuked into oblivion populated by pre-sentient cockroaches

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>>375514451
Seriously?

It's the round thing under the "Ethics" heading.

I can't stop my game from freezing my whole computer since the utopia update.
What do

>>375514580
HoI4 is legit trash with AI that's somehow more broken than the average GS, it's a step down from its predecessors in nearly every regard and receieves little to no support from the devs
Stellaris gets flak because it was similarly broken at release and isn't really a grand strategy game

>>375514580
/gsg/ is one of those generals that just became pure incestuous cancer and memes, its unusable nowadays unfortunately.

The problem with Stellaris is that it is actually very shallow compared to other games in its genre, just amazingly pretty and really good at presentation and roleplay fluff. People who have played a lot of 4Xs and grand strats and so on will see quickly the depth it is lacking and how samey mid and late game can become. If that's not you I wouldn't worry about it.

>>375514505
Fuck, I dunno. I saw all the bonuses and started drooling

>>375514923
I have laptop with a10 cp and shitty radeon card
It's only freezes game, not PC itself

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>>375504482

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>>375514761
I once had Sol next to my starting system, and I just observed it for a while. Then they became spacefaring, so I conquered them. These filthy xenos kept rebelling so I purged them all.

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>>375503632
>pick wormhole humans
>lets find earth!
>journey across the fucking galaxy
>they are in the industrial age
At least i got an achievement out of that

>>375514658
Your obviously full of shit because your post is so heavy handed it's comical. At least try to make your post look believable.

Stellaris shill trying to stop you from buying GalCivIII so you'll buy Stellaris instead. ;)

>>375513657
Look for Iron Sky mod on workshop or usual places where you can get workshop mods

>>375515258
I NEED this button back, fucking hell Paradox this new mechanic is so fucking shit.

>>375515019
>It's not.

We literally couldn't breed with them if it weren't a superficial difference. We're the same fucking species. I'm pretty sure any space faring, god-like, civilization wouldn't be hung up on something so minutely petty. You might as well bitch about their hair and eye color.

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>>375514761
Found mine already as a tomb world

>>375514631
Just for you, I acutally dug out the facts for this.

It was a 15 year old that did it, so he was considered juvinile, and has to pay 16k USD + interest to the victim, 40 hours community service for forcing her to suck his dick.

>>375515372
Huh?

Uh, pretty sure it's still there. Are you a xenophobe? Did you look at your civilization policies?

>>375515027
I sure did like playing vanilla HoI 3 where the AI stopped doing anything if you did something it didn't expect.

Oh wait that was the improved AI, the vanilla AI would fuck up even if you did do the historical thing.

>>375515470
Do they ever evolve?
Can you tell them "LOL we used to kill you with compressed air-in-a-can, so worship us"?

>>375515380
I've been here long enough to realize how much of a newfag pretending to fit in you are, fagmo. You're all dime a dozen underage edgelords who think they know what their actions actually accomplish

>>375514448
Maybe I need to get back into GalCiv

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>>375511878
I love reading that pasta to the end every single time, kek.

You can only enslave aliens with the xenophobic trait, right?

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>mfw I got +8 Engineering Points from my home system

>>375515734
You can uplift them.
My cockroaches had the intellectual trait, so I turned Sol III into a lab world where giant cockroaches in shiny science buildings research the wonders of the universe.

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>>375515734
No
Species literally can't become intelligent in the hundreds of years
Well, maybe if you try to run game million years of ingame time something might happen
>>375515873
Trust me, you don't want it
Galciv 3 is such a disappointment it's not even funny
Galciv2 setting already was pretty meh, but gameplay wise it was great
Galciv 3 is garbage in every aspect

>>375516014
How so? I loved GalCiv2

>>375516101
>gameplay
>things you can do
>tech tree
>races
>ships
>combat
I can't name a single good things about game, it's like they took galciv2 and butchered everything interesting from it
Just play MoO2 and GalCiv2 and never touch shit like endless space and galciv3

>>375515925
Yeah, if you're authoritarian though pretty sure you can then enslave and/or purge your own population too.

But again: You probably will need to update your civilization policies to do so.

>>375515565
You can only purge an entire species that is present in your empire, you can longer control pops on planets.

>>375516354
Honestly the way you sound so rabid and butthurt and list things like
>things you can do
It actually makes me think the game is probably good, because you are coming off retarded and possibly someone with very poor taste.

>>375516473
Sure, sure
Go ahead and try it

>>375515734
What do you mean by 'evolve'? Do you mean become a space-faring civilization?

If they're a pre-sentient species then >>375516014 is correct- I think. If they're a sentient species than they go through different ages and can become an empire over time. Speed is somewhat variable though, like recently I had a scientist on an observation post abscond planetside and turned himself into a deity for the local tribes.

Last message I got from him was that he planned on uplifting the "savages". So I'm preparing to purge the world with him on it.

>>375505103
This works fine you stupid nigger:
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/17545170/Stellaris_Galaxy_Edition_v1.5.1_%28Inclu_ALL_DLC%29

>>375516835
enjoy your virus

>>375515973
Yeah that REALLY sounds like a great idea

>>375515625
The previous game having shit AI doesn't excuse the latest entry also having it
AI aside, HoI4 has numerous questionable design decisions including the unintuitive air combat mechanics, easily exploitable division builder, and massively simplified tech tree and OOB. There's also the whole "battle-plan" system that incentivizes painting arrows and handing over control to a retarded computer.
The only aspect of the game that seemed to have decent potential was the new production mechanics, but it's buried underneath a pile of shit

>>375516912
>le virus meme xDDD

>>375516392
You sure?

Let me pull up a game and conquer a planet real quick.

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Stellaris or Endless Space 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJl254O6do4

>>375516392
>>375517021
Actually, you can "purge" pre-ftl planets as any ethos through limited or full terror bombing. It takes a bit longer and people still won't be happy, but it doesn't give as bad of a modifier

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>>375501247
I really do too.

>>375517394

The kobold av is best when it isn't a kobold

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>>375517487
For those who want to make their own kobold or dragon styled race.

https://ravencroft.click/stellaris/unofficial-mods/
Password: depraved

>>375501289
On one side, I have played it for a few hundred hours.
On the other side, I never finished a game.

>>375517936
I would definitely use it more if it wasn't all over the place with quality and style.

Also needs animations with jiggle.

>>375517936
kek hi Victoria

>>375517394
>>375517487
>>375517936
outdated and no effort

when will you learn to make good avatars?

>>375518292
well he literally just uploads second life screenshots

How do you set up your game? Galaxy size , shape? how many AIs? Fallen empires?

>>375518515
Huge
ring
4 fallen empires
No advanced AI

>>375505084
I like the idea behind it, but not the implementation. It was originally conceived so every species doesn't develop in EXACTLY the same way by providing various options throughout the game, in practice though, everyone's going to get the same food/mineral/research tech along with shields or armor and one of the three weapon types. Never once did I feel like any of the empires had definition to their technology beyond "advanced" and "behind."

It certainly should be fixed in a future patch, I'm wanting that feeling of discovering sections of the galaxy where certain technologies were simply never discovered, like a place that's got level 4 lasers but never figure out how to build anything bigger than a destroyer. Or somewhere that figured out how to make hyperfarms but who's mining capacity is so far behind they can only compete by being a huge sprawling monstrosity that relies on low tech slave labor to offset their lack of knowledge on how to better handle things.

In short, I want regions of space that are ahead and behind and simply different like it is on EU4.

>>375514920
there is no ethics header shown in the OP. I looked at the possible responses and thought they were lame, that's all.

>>375516458
>Can they metabolize lactose? No? Then they're not human

Seriously? More Asian Americans are lactose intolerant compared to Black Americans: http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/what-is-lactose-intolerance
Pretty sure I read somewhere that a lot of people who think they're lactose tolerant are actually intolerant.

>sickle cell disease
We're also at higher risk for osteoporosis, does that somehow make us "better" than African Americans? Again though, we're talking about inconsequential differences on a larger scale.

>lower IQ
Read: http://www.unz.com/article/the-iq-gap-is-no-longer-a-black-and-white-issue/

As controversial the material of the article is, it takes a very rigorous approach to describing how inane ascribing IQ differences as due to genetics is. The problem is an environmental one, not a genetic one, black culture in the United States is fucking toxic.

>inability to understand the concept of civilization and being rabid monkeys who only ever saw a use of technology in the form of guns to better kill each other and then blame the ebil whitey for it are not superficial differences.

Fuck off.

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>>375515351
I didn't buy it

>>375518604
I never play ring galaxy before, how was it?

>>375505469
I had a silly game where I turned every empire except for two into tributaries. I was raking in so much cash and had no research penalties because I only had 9 planets total.

I think to fix that, they should make sectors more autonomous, but have it so they don't hit your tradition and research cost so much. It's kind of sad I'm actually wanting my nation to fall apart just because it's easier to win when you release sectors and vassalize them rather than leave them integrated.

>>375513716
FEEVEOO!

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>>375516618
Your parents must be helluva proud of ya

>>375504337
You are playing Biological Ascension wrong. You are supposed to conquer a species then turn them all into drooling, disgusting retards. Then you free them.

>>375519142
Well, it's one big ring
Fun to play because usually you will have only 2 borders. Best map for the hyperlines

>>375519985
This.

Biological Ascension is for playing a galactic horror civilization. You make your enemies and rivals delicious or you devolve them to simpering imbeciles.

>>375520602
I have a love hate relationship with hyperlanes, literally my least favorite form of travel but it also gives borders some degree of meaning.

I love playing wormholes but fucking hate going up against AI with the same tech, I always build these military stations on my empire boarders which do jack shit when the AI just wormholes right past them.

With hyperlanes I know exactly what route they have to take, and so build my stations with jump snares where any invading force has to go through.

>>375520892
Hyperlane only is kinda fun.

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>>375501247
What's the best early-game strategy here? I'm not normally very good at 4Xs so normally I just blitz colonization as fast as possible.

Do you actually do anything with influence cause it just seems to pile up and there's not a whole lot I can do with it.

>>375520892
Well, if I need to rate FTL it would something like:
Wormholes>hyperlines>Warp
But forced hyperlines for everyone actually makes game feel different, so after every big patch I usually have at least one session with this rules
>>375521150
You mostly spend influence in the late game for shit like mega strutctures

>>375520602
What about spiral galaxy?

>>375501247
>tfw literally everyone else is "pathetic" compared to you

The end game crisis hasn't even hit and I'm running around with three 80k fleets with room for 2 maybe 3 more based on my fleet capacity which holy fuck they made it so you can have a fuck ton of ships now since launch. I mulched 2 fallen empires and I already completely humiliated the third and last who is on the other side that awakened right after I ate the first two. At this point its literally just waiting for numbers to fill until "win" nothing can stop me since half the galaxy is my friend since I went super inclusive make everyone happy and an early game alliance pissed off a lot of people and when I joined them to kick the alliances ass they all instantly went trust 100 and have all had a steady 150 positive with me so no super federations will form against me but after eating the fallen empires I'm so tech bloated I doubt even if the whole galaxy united against me that they could beat me.

>>375518604
>Huge

Won't you get lag late game?

>>375521025
>>375521392
Yeah, sorry, I meant to imply that when I play hyperlanes I force everyone to play hyperlanes so that enemy ships will have to go through my military stations to enter my dominion.

Thankfully you can still get the warp drive tech, albeit when enemy civilizations do the same your borders once again will have little to no meaning.

>>375521669
just alt+tab and shitpost
It's not like mid and end games are very interesting or something

>>375521150
Unity is actually really important, it's the thing which allows you to unlock societal upheavals, eventually letting you ascend to synthetic immortality, biological supremacy, or psionic ascendancy.

I usually go for a technologically advanced race, so I try and put everything into research. The discovery unity branch is important in that regard.

As for influence you'll need it for things like frontier posts (Important to demarcate your territory and block off other empires, I always close my borders to new civilizations I encounter.) and setting government policies. Government policies can do things like increase the size of your available fleet, to giving societal wide bonuses to research, unity, and happiness.

Whats the best 4x/grand strategy game that isnt eu4 or ck2? I want something that focus mainly on diplomacy and tech as i usually dont like combat in these games.

>>375522230
AC>civ4=civ2>civ6

>>375522230
Galactic Civilization II

>>375522202
>I usually go for a technologically advanced race

How do you do that exactly? Stack labs on your planets and try not to get too big?

I have 6 Dyson Spheres and three Ringworlds.
The Universe lives in Peace because of a Giant Federation that makes wars impossible.
Nothing happens and I have 2k energy 1k Minerals and 1k each science per month. A fleet that is 450k strong.

And absolutly nothing happens.

>>375522504
AAhh and Unbidden are around but are way too weak to cause any damage.

>>375522230
>diplomacy and tech

Stellaris is no longer really bad on these fronts, at least tech- I've never really tried a diplomatic approach to conquering the universe but I think it's been overhauled with the recent patch.

I know that political factions now start to form within your own star empire, and that you have to negotiate with these factions for influence depending on their needs and wants. As for Tech your civilization can go from only being able to build frontier posts to expand your empire's borders to terraforming planets and building megastructures like dyson spheres (Ultimately renders systems absolutely barren when you completely enclose the star, but gives you massive energy bonuses) and ring worlds.

>>375522336
I already played civ 6, i will try 4. Is AC alfa centauri?

>>375522726
Isn't the problem still that you can't get a tech victory or a cultural one? That it still just comes down to painting the map your colour with conquest no matter what civs you choose?

>>375520892
FTL needs to be rethought somewhat. The advantages warp and wormholes have over hyperlanes due to the fact there's no chokepoints with them are extraordinary even counting that it might take two months or better to jump to another system with the technology.

>>375522350
>Stack labs on your planets and try not to get too big?

More or less, I only colonize HUEG planets, stack labs on empty tiles (sometimes energy if I'm running low) and initially only pick discovery unity perks.

If I'm lucky I'll run across something like the Infinity Machine, whose reward will give me a black hole that gives +10 to all the research branches plus a 10% bonus modifier to all research.

>>375511927
>It didn't help, Chaos still found a way in.
Ironically via that one human empire that was aware of Chaos and thought itself free from taint.

>>375522634
Always the fucking Unbidden, I'm so sick of them. Also, how are they too weak unless you actively engage them, in my last game they got out of control really fast despite having only one portal.

>>375514050
Black people hold back civilization, and only know to destroy. This isn't about skin-color, this is about them being a different sub-species from a different ancestor.

>>375504551
if you play as a xenophobe you can just call them scum and then turn off the transmission

>>375501247
paradox games are great when they get bugfixed/more features added

never buy them within the first year.

>>375523162
everyone in the universe has fleets 200k while they come with 50k.

I never engaged them.
They live by themselves spawning a 50k fleet sometimes that gets crushed immidiatly.

>>375513540
>not using the European only mod

>>375501247
When do the end game crisis happen on average? I want something to shake shit up. The map is pretty stagnant right now.

>>375511534
>Depends, I agree the Eldar and Tau should make for natural allies, but most of the other factions are literal monstrous hordes.

You are wrong, both of those civilizations won't think twice about fucking humanity over for their own gain.

>>375522889
>Isn't the problem still that you can't get a tech victory or a cultural one? That it still just comes down to painting the map your colour with conquest no matter what civs you choose?

Kinda yeah, I think you could go for a kind of "cultural" victory by forming a galactic federation and strong arming all the other empires into joining it.

But otherwise, I've never really beaten a game per se, I like Stellaris because it lets me roleplay the formation of pretty much any galactic empire depicted in sci-fi.

I could go for a Hivemind Tyrannid-esque race with biological ascension, conquering and devouring subservient species. I could make an Abh empire like from Banner of the Stars, and go on a militaristic crusade to conquer my neighbors. Ultimately turning them into vassals locked in their home systems without any interstellar travel capabilities. I could play as the Imperium of Man, going on a crusade to purge the galaxy of xeno scum. Ect.