What went wrong?

>>361370003
>Capcom
You mean Dimps.

>>361370003
General incompetence and actual talent starting to go away from Capcom Japan.

>>361370104
>dude it's not capcom's fault for hiring retards lmaooo

>>361370003
both look fucking terrible honestly

>>361370003
you may not like his design but he looks great on the left

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>>361370003
3D fighters are inherently better

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>>361370003

>>361370463
This

>akuma
>not always being an ugly fuck

>>361370003
when modern day capcom begun to be ran by terrible businessmen and progressives.

well that's my best guess why they thought akuma's model should be outsourced and resemble a maori nigger.

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>>361370003
left looks like the Hawaiian punch man

>>361370003
everything, it's shit
>>361370463
maybe for mashy babies

>>361370463
>posting tekken
No one plays that garbage shit with dress up. Air juggles for days, combos that eat 90% life.

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>>361370865
>Mashy


No, they are superior.

Capcom knows that street fighter fans will lap up anything, so why try?

>>361370970
but that isn't Tekken

>>361370984
t. mashy baby
how's it feel to have children for top players in your baby masher?

>>361370970
that's virtua fighter you fucking pleb
>inb4 merely pretending

>>361370970
>Combos that eat %90 life
Why do people that never played Tekken love to spout this bullshit so much?
Probably because they literally can't find anything actually bad with Tekken.

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>>361370463
>implying you even play Virtua Fighter

>>361370258
thanks

tired of all these people giving capcom passes

>>361370984
>posting one of the hypest comebacks in KI history as if it were something bad

>>361371236
It's my headcanon they go online and get relaunched before they properly wake up and quit after a single game

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chunli dont feel so op now

>>361370463
>>361370984
How long until fighters degenerate into MOBAs, but with projectile """""""""""""""""""lanes""""""""""""""""""

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>>361370463
>too shit to handle projectiles

>>361370984
>cherry picking this hard

And if that KI match is the one in thinking of, the end is cut out which was hype as fuck

Not to shit on VF, but don't be a faggot

>>361371540
i want her ass on my face

>>361371416

But muh juggles and superior limb-based combat

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>>361371569
>fireballs with cooldowns
>specials need mana
>paid DLC costumes now give stats

>>361371710
>>paid DLC costumes now give stats
Name one competitive game that does this

>>361371569
Right when the League of Legends fighting game is out

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CAPCOM IS GOOD CAPCOM IS GREAT

EVERYTHING CAPCOM DOES IS PERFECT

>>361371647
I want Poison's ass on her face

>>361370003
>make shitty new custom
>charge money for the old one
genius

>>361371617
>Too shit to play like a man or do anything besides one cheap move

>>361371856
CSGO and Overwatch of course - didn't you know? Skins = Skill

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>>361371289
Actually, I do.


>>361371416
>comeback

Pfff... nigga is this serious?
The guy literally stands stuck in one corner while the other is pressing the same button for literally 2 whole minutes...


2D fighters are so freaking stupid, it makes me laugh sometimes when I read dumb ass sheeps like you "hyping" for something objectively so obsolete and retarded.

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more organized list of changes:
game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/adjust2017/en/8.html

>>361371856
SFxTK had dlc gems, it was competitive when it was alive

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>>361372004
>fireballs
>cheap

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>>361372094
>Long range fighting

>>361370003
Also literally on the same engine and hardware (Unreal Engine 4 and PS4). No excuses at all.

>>361372327
>implying SFV won't age better
Style always trumps realism

If you think fireballs are cheap you're not qualified to have an opinion.

>>361372447
SFV already looks worse than any tekken on the ps2

>>361372094
>SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST
>HADOUKEN HADOUKEN SHORYUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEN

>>361372447
What if the style is "Ugly as shit"
Just look at SFxT

>>361370003
The left looks absolutely awful. But I am not going to pretend the right looks good.

>>361372447
too bad the style is garbage lmao

>>361372447
The second SF6 is out everyone will forget the piece of shit V is.

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>>361371945

>>361370463
Street Fighter is shit we know. It's not the greatest example of a 2D fighting game.
Post something from ArcSys or Examu at the very least.

>>361372287
Ever seen one of the 2hu fighters?

Surprisingly fun stuff

>>361370003
Bandai always have good characters

If people only talk about how every game other than SF is great but people only play SF I have to assume you're just being contrarian little babies.

I'd wager most of you haven't played the games you're praising in the last month.

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>>361372554
If you seriously don't know how to deal with fireballs then you are legitimately bad at fighting games. That's like fighting games 101, you don't need a sidestep to figure out how to not lose to it.

>>361370003
HE WANTS SOME POUND CAKE!!!

>>361370463
>why doesn't this 2d game play play exactly like my 3d game
>trying to say heavy zoning works extremely well in sf5 or that's the meta playstyle
>not just frametrap city

>>361372672
people already forgot about all the Tekken games and the new one hasn't even come out yet

>>361373453

Even better:

>T6 drops
>has Akuma from Street Fighter in it
>completely breaks the game because Tekkenbabbies can't deal with projectiles or aerial attacks

>>361372094
>>361372456
>>361373138
Just curious, but how would you feel if they implemented Street Fighter Third Strike parries to Street Fighter 5? A legitimate question from someone who just finished reading the thread.

>>361372554
>SOUL FIST SOUL FIST SOUL FIST
If you're going to complain about projectiles in Darkstalkers, at least complain about ones that are good, like Sol Smasher.

>>361373453
And?

>>361373731
I would most likely drop it.
Parries are cancer and turn the whole game into a stupid guessing game.

Season 2 of SFV is a mess.

They just shuffled some things around, but didn't actually solve anything, and added new problems. Combofiend needs to go.

>>361373840
and, 3d fighter are so shit they die off before the latest version releases. no one cares about them, not even the so-called fans.

>>361373731
Parries would depend on how they're implemented. 3S parries are basically the worst implementation of parries, since they're relatively low-risk in comparison to many defensive options, and the fact that you can use them in the air completely devalues several AA options.

>>361373757
Maybe he ment MvC3

>>361372016
>posting a game twenty five years old and using it as an example

>>361370984
Don't know about you, but you try spamming projectilesi n Guilty Gear for more than 1 second and you're going to get corner carried and 50% of your health taken away. Every game has a different niche and crowd. SF rewards very patient gameplay, fireball spamming will get eliminated quick versus actual competent opponents. It's quite fine if you prefer Tekken, but I don't think 3D fighters are superior at all. More likely to be on par considering 3D fighters require a lot of self control.

>>361371647
this except only after she has a long hard day of training. i want that ass as sweaty and pungent as it can get.

>>361373574

You seem to be forgetting it was Tekkenfags who chased Streetfighterbabbies off SFXT because spamming Hadoukens didn't win against people who actually played a superior fighting game.

>>361372689
>detachable top

Show me dem titties.

>>361374074
maybe you should actually play some games you dummy
I'm having tons of fun whiff punishing niggers online

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>Tekken
>Sells more than SF
>Has better online with just as many if not more players
>Actually a working full game
>Few dlcs unlike capjews who constantly want your money
>Tag 2 after about 5 years is still alive online
>Tons of extra modes
>Even fucking lets you customize your characters however you want, no fucking costume payment which are most of the time trash anyway because capcom is trash
>N-no one likes Tekken
>D-dead haha
Kek

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I really can't tell if LTG is trolling or legit anymore.
Nobody can be THIS stuckup his own ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lYVzNr8-J4

>>361374783
>fireball spamming will get eliminated quick versus actual competent opponents
Let's admit for a second this is true.

What this actually implies is that fireball spamming doesn't work against competent opponent right?

Then why do it at all?
I mean From Evo, SXSW, Capcom cup, every top player has been doing nothing but spamming fireballs and baiting his opponent to either corners.

So what's the point if this is not good against competent opponents?
It's the only real meta in 2D fighters: long range fighting, and getting your opponent in a corner, cross-up on corner, then do some kind of 50/50 bullshit on him until either you or him can throw a gay comeback meter on the opponent.

>>361375067
People are brainwashed by Crapcom, dont mind them.

>>361374770
Is this
>>361370984
>>361370463

not an exemple then ?

>>361374856
Capcom chased everyone off of SFxT.
>Gems were ignored at best and needlessly complicated at worst
>DLC character plan (especially on-disk) was a big "fuck you"
>almost everyone's normals did the exact same damage

>>361375136
He's black so though he's probably playing it out for attention, he's actually that dumb.

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>tekken 7 is coming to pc soon (tm)
So excited, cannot contain my hype. I haven't given a shit about street fighter since 2 turbo but tekken always manages to stay fresh and innovative and I've bought the last 2 console generations exclusively so I could play tekken (because lets face it, all the other console exclusives were trash)

>>361375148
you seem to mistake spamming for skilled use of projectiles, spacing, timing, and zone control. you have no idea wtf you're talking about. 3d fighters meta is nothing more than just guessing frametraps into juggling someone for an hour if you want to start breaking shit down so simply.

>>361374856

Difference there was that SFxT was DOA thanks to the gem system (which also heavily favored the Tekken characters). Tekken 7, on the other hand, was all set to be a good installment, then the inclusion of a projectile character destroyed most of the roster.

>>361375148
not him but spamming =/= zoning
zoning actually takes in account position relative to opponent and stage on top of the options the opponent has to escape the zoning (like invincible moves)
zoning with fireballs is the same as zoning with normal moves actually, it's just done with different tools and so requires different knowledge and specific characters to do it effectively

>>361370003
>comparing Old Akuma to Young Akuma
>Not realizing that Old Akuma has ties with Oni

>>361375148
There's nothing to admit, it is true. Fireballs force a reaction. Blocking them has minor consequence. They generate pressure. They do this regardless of the level of play.

3D fighters generate pressure at low levels with deceptively safe strings forcing reactions out of noobs. After that it's just that there's simply too much going on for any mere mortal to react to consistently.

2D fighters allow you to get far closer to a state of perfect play, but it's a matter of preference.

>>361375495
>you seem to mistake spamming for skilled use of projectiles,


This >>361370463 is LI Joe playing as Nash.


So please, cut out the crap and see it for what it is : retarded gameplay for retarded people.

>>361375541
Once you've shot 3 fireballs in a row you're spamming, regardless of what you want to call it.

>>361370984
That Sabrewolf played it right. Take a look at health totals and ask yourself "Why would he risk going though the projectiles when he can just wait out the timer?". It would have been played differently at different health totals, but that's not an example of lockdown. That's an example of high level play.

>>361375148
I can't really defend SF well because to be honest the game is a balance mess right now, but realy projectile spamming isn't really very good on it, let me explain.

While they are rewarding (build meter, punish dash spamming, fast recovery) if your opponent starts spamming you will begin to expect it, so givewn you time it correctly, you will be able to jump in and punish on time. If you don't you will usually get DPed or AA jabbed. Also I don't know if you noticed but both characters in the Capcom Cup that were finalists don't fireball spam. Mika has none and Chun has a mediocre one that only works as a decent zoning tool if you EX it. Add to this that most characters have a built in way to deal with fireballs (Gief Lariat, Bison V Skill, Nash V Skill, othr Fireballs, invincible moves, moves that straight up eat fireballs life Giefs headbutt, invincible supers) and fireballs start being underwhleming at high level. Season 2 is now nerfing fireballs to be even less rewarding now too. I still think SF is a mess and needs more straigthening out, but really, fireballs are not really a problem on it. I can give you SF2 though.

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>>361370463
Tekken 3, TT, DoA and a handful of other 3D fighters are fun to watch. Skullgrils, Melee, Third Strike and lots of other 2D fighters are fun to play/watch. And that webm that you used was 2 players that got matched up that both played defensively (for the SF5 clip). 3D fighters, or any fighting game in fact, can be so fucking slow if both players decide to play defensively.

>>361375824
Is it high level? I'd more call it practical. High level would be going for the KO.

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Jesus christ, 2D fighters are such idiotic beings, it's no wonder they get fucked deep by jewcom and their cashgrab practices.

>>361373960
I guess I should have asked how you would have felt if parries would have lessened the impact fireballs have in a matches flow, but maybe your answer wouldn't change.
>>361374350
I did specify Third Strike parries and I don't see how they're low risk. If I get ballsy and try to parry a super and fuck it up, I get my shit pushed in.

Mind you I'm not by any means a competitive player or anything special. Probably below average player who enjoys playing one or two fighting games. So long as I'm not getting double perfected and killed with a taunt at the end of each round I tend to enjoy matches. Funnily enough I was into Street Fighter 4 and had never touched 3rd Strike until the Online Edition had released.

Thanks for the reply anons.

>>361375398
>tekken
>fresh and innovative
actually changing the game would kill your average tekken player.

>>361375965
He was going for the KO, in the safest way possible. Hence, High Level.

>>361375136
>implying he was ever legit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWnFUPhtwEA daily reminder LTG couldn't beat a fat jew random selecting, rage quit, and stopped the stream after he cracked

>>361375820
Are we arguing about semantics or about game mechanics? The way you call it doesn't subtract from the knowledge needed to use it effectively. You want to call it spamming? Ok. But it won't change anything.

>>361375136

He's playing a character. It's theater.

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>>361371540

>>361376019
They change it every installment faglord, not by much but by enough that the franchises is actually progressing, unlike street fighter which is the exact same point for point gameplay since sf2 and all they do is nudge hitboxes and balance frames, shit that could be done in patches at this point.
Why do you think tekken people get excited about stuff like tag 2, if you made a street fighter tag people would be rioting in their mother's basements.

>>361376002
I dont care about fireballs.
3s parries break the anti air game and make it FUCKTARDED.

3s players dont even know how to play actual Street Fighter games because they learned it all wrong with this shit mechanic.
Fuck 3s.

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>>361372016
Fuck all Sagat players in SF2. Fucking spam city, like hot damn.

>>361376174
Ok, but you're spamming.
And it's not like it's a fast paced game or fast moving projectile so being able to aim it with it's giant hitboxes isn't very impressive regardless.

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>>361375136
>"as mentally stable as i am"
>camera proceeds to lose focus

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>>361376307
nice satire

>>361376315
Parries don't break the anti air game; it's just different. I really like 3s for the parry meta, but sure as fuck don't want every Street Fighter game to be like that.

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>>361376174
I'm not even arguing with you dumb fucks.

It's how I see it that matters, how it plays and feels, I didn't make it far in SF5 (Silver ranks), but every 2D fighter I played is the same shit.

You can pretext about "zooooning" being a legit way to play or a good mechanic, at the ned of the day, the shit is what it is: Long range fighting.

What's even the point of that? Is this "fighting" ? really?
Standing behind, spamming the same move over and over to pressure your opponent into making one little choice?

No matter what changes they brought to the game every street fighter plays like this, except 3.

>>361376395
Aiming?
It's about timing and spacing.
You time it so that your enemy falls into it. You "space" (as in throw from a specific distance) it so that your enemy can't jump in on you or go through it.
There's stuff to take into account but aim isn't one of them.

You seem to not understand what to look for in those webms.

>>361376832
Timing, spacing and positioning combined is called aim in any other genre, you're just trying to break it down to make it seem deeper than it is.
It's a slow moving projectile with a giant hitbox on a 2d grid, compare that to shooting a rocket in 3 dimensions with velocity inheritance from a position moving in 3 dimensions against a target moving in 3 dimension, all 3 of which have crazy velocities, tiny hitboxes and are at huge distances apart in elaborate maps in quake and it makes streetfighter's fireball spam look like a fucking joke by comparison, and I would still categorize all of that shit put together into just "aim"

>>361376284
People still post this slut? Jesus christ This is posted in every SFV thread

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>>361376694
Unrelated, but your webm is kind of playing against you. 20 seconds in, just because nigger man didn't get a tech, that white kiddy just got to mash more buttons for a free W.
Projectile spam is bullshit in some games, easy to counter in others. Learning about mix-ups, and how to space around projectiles/(non)active hitboxes should really be the #1 thing to learn about a fighter.
>TL;DR
>Learn spacing and git gud.

>>361377218
Because in a 2D space the counterattack/punish is a bigger concern than in a 3D space where everyone has space ADHD.

>>361377394
Yeah good luck counter-attacking fireball spam with anything other than your own fireball spam.

>>361376694
>It's how I see it that matters

smells like millennial in here

>>361377218
In any game aiming, positioning and spacing are still different things.
You don't aim the rocket by moving further away (spacing).
You don't aim the rocket by shooting it from a particular spot of the map.
You aim by aiming it.

Since (in most of the cases) you have very little control of the direction of the fireball aiming just isn't there.

Also in 2d space movement is more limited.
It just ain't the same thing man.

>>361370104
Why hire dimps, they are a fucking atrocious developer

>>361370003
Ugly as sin American Engine Unreal shit
American Blender modelers.

>>361373960
man how shit were you in 3S lol

>>361377704
>In any game aiming, positioning and spacing are still different things.
Not when they're all linked, which they always are.
Spacing is just a bullshit word for spamming.

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>>361377381
This just show how little you know the game and how to break throws in VF.

The point is, the game is an actual fight between two players making choices and sticking to it.

There is no meta, there is no unbalance between character, frames are only part of it.
It's not a "knowing what's up with the character you fight and you win by counter-picking" game.

As Ono said himself:
"Mashing in SF that can work sometimes, but in Virtua Fighter, it will take you no where".

>>361377589
The way I feel it, is the way every casual out there feels about your gay as fuck 2D fighter and anime crap.
This is why games like Tekken or MvC are much more popular than the rest.

>>361377545
funny how I can just walk forward and jump and punish someone throwing stupid projectiles with no thought. you sound like someone who can't figure out a solution and just cry about spam/broken/cheap like some dumb cunt

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>>361376407
Fucking Kino

>>361378069
>>>/tv/

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>street fighter
>shoot a slow moving fireball straight over and over
>hit a guy as he comes down from his jump
>height of skill

>quake
>this shit.webm
>just another day in quake baby

>>361378162
>Get brain cancer headache the game


No thanks.

>>361377960
If jumping over slow moving fireballs is skill you should try playing 2hu instead, launching a fireball as a guy starts his jump isn't skill, it

>>361377905
>Tekken and Marvel are more popular with low IQ know-it-all entitled fucktards

you don't say

>>361377732
That's been the big question ever since SF4. It's hard to imagine why Capcom would give them another shot after seeing what they did with SF4, but that's the way it played out.

And then you hear that Marvel VS Capcom Infinite is going to be developed in-house and you have to wonder why it appears that Capcom is giving greater care to a crossover title than its mainline Street Fighter games. It's baffling

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>this is skill
> no, no, this is skill
>pfff, you call this skill, this is actual skill
>the ultimate demonstration of skill is this, you cant deny

You're all full of bullshit.

>>361378162
how can you even compare these games? idiot

>>361377876
>Not when they're all linked, which they always are.
So aiming is the same as positioning.
How the hell did you come to that conclusion?


Just go play some SF and try to just hadouken as fast as you can against a (not shit) player. See if that's going to do any good.
If it was like you said, you could just go and win any tournament. Why aren't you winning them though?

>>361370003
JUST METSU

>>361370003
have you played him yet? shit is fun as fuck. aesthetics are in the realm of subjectivity, but I focus almost all of my attention on the other guy considering its a fighting game

>>361370003
i think the mane looks pretty cool, the ponytail with it imo ruins it.

>>361378986
You could not sound more like a pretentious little cunt.
Fuck off.

>>361379365
nah I'll stay. thanks for the (you) faggot

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>>361378556
Easily, they've both "high skill" video games.
Except one actually takes skill, and the other is just combo memorization DDR.
>>361378214
Sorry your tiny brain cannot compute a game without everything being drawn out in crayon for you.

>>361378559
>So aiming is the same as positioning.
Your position vs the target's position and trajectory vs the projectile's trajectory.
That's all aim is faggot.

>>361379589
youre a fucking idiot, makes sense for the 'master race'

>>361372654
wth are you talking about? Right looks faithful to street fighter

>>361379767
>youre a fucking idiot
Says the scrub who can't watch a q3 gif without throwing up all over his 3 button + joystick fisher price controller.

>>361377545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APjPpEygvqc

There's an insane amount of skill that goes into playing Blackheart, and even more so in knowing where your windows are to super jump out of it.

>Fireballs are worse
>Wakeup DPs non-existant
>Mika now shifted to Laura
>Grapplers still shit in a Rushdown game

Waited a whole year for S2 and they fixed nothing.

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I have seen people say you can combo into Raging Demon but i have't found anything so far

Are you nigger lying to me?

>>361370003
Something went wrong?

>>361379816
>3D
>With grainy as fuck textures
>And greasy and oily as fuck shading
I could go further and nitpick, but I feel like that's enough to present my case.

>>361380168
I never said anything about mvc, that actually takes some skill, despite being a visual clusterfuck, well until they turned it into 3v3 dota in mvc3.

>>361380320
I can nitpick sf4's akuma too, but it's still faithful

>>361370003
How the fuck do you grow muscles on your brow so it bulges like that?

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I've had some trouble finding the right character for V, started out with Mila, then Laura, then Nercalli and Cammy. I got Juri when shje released, but I hear she was really underhwelming.
How is she now, after the patch and all? Is she worth spending some time in the practice room? I'm rank silver at best, so I guess it dosnt really matter

>>361380254

It's probably some kind of Desk trickery or some shit that isn't really possible in an actual fight setting.

>>361380432
>faithful
That depends entirely on what you're standard is. Also, the original claim was never that it wasn't "faithful" however you define that, it was that it looked bad.

>>361380660
>it was that it looked bad.

it objectively doesnt, mr contrarian

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>>361380242
b...but akuma anon! just buy it

>>361380509
If it doesn't matter then just play the one you enjoy playing the most

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fighting games are unfun garbage

the only good fighting game ever made is smash, and it's not even considered a fighting game by you fags

I hate air juggles

>>361380461
Do you even eyebrow crunch?

>become overwhelmingly evil
>give people evil stares
>live a life of constant evil staring
>massive brow gains

>>361380119
oh yeah thats actually what happen you bellend

>>361380774
Didn't they get rid of his neutral and backwards jump air fireballs because those might be used as zoning tools and that wouldn't be very fun for our degenerate casual rushdown audience, now would it?

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does the one hit survival trainer still works? i don't want to grind in a fucking fighting game

>>361380729
People aren't allowed to have opinions now?

>>361381221
you can still backwards airball with ex or v-skill. you just don't get scrub spam tactics for free this time, sorry you might actually have to learn street fighter

>>361381276
Well sorry bud but you'll have to. After all, if you like the game, you must also like spending hours in grinding :^)

>>361381609
I almost miss 1-frame-links if it means getting rid of the casuals like this.

>>361381307
Opinions are like assholes, I bet you think modern art looks just as good as classicist art. Anyway show me an akuma you think look better

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>>361380787
>shit at fighting games
>smashfag

checks out. have a (You)

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>>361370003

>>361377107
Any hope?

>>361380787
fuck off you twat

>>361381837
well the premium skins are bought on the PS/steam store, so I guess there is a chance that it'll go on sale once in a while

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>>361370003
This is what a lifetime of getting punched in the face gets you.

>>361380787
true
it's a party game ;^)

>>361376307
I hope this is bait

>>361377905
>>361376694
>>361370984
SUPERIOR
LIMB
BASED
COMBAT

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>>361381783
>Anyway show me an akuma you think look better
Sure. Whatever.

>>361383621
where can I play this version

>>361370463
Looking at both of these and how utterly retarded they look. All slight desires to buy a fighten game this year have gone down the drain. Thanks.

>>361383761
When you finish Akuma's 3 minute story mode in SFV.

Expecting /v/ to actually know anything vidya related.

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>>361381783
but i dont expect an 09er to have taste

>muh 2.5D

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>>361381695
but infinite health still works 8)

>>361383761
Fucking filename, retard!

>>361385901
You know the joke is that you cant play him like he appears there

rtard

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E-Early...
2017...

>>361375334

Now I'm waiting for a 15gb update that will bring only one character.
Was it worth it?

>>361378339
Given Disney is known to go fucking nuclear when a game put out for one of their major brands sucks, I can't blame them for prioritizing it

>>361370003
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on street fighter. Other top fighters, namely Tekken, VF and Soul calibur have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is Street Fighter just can't seem to evolve. if you want something a little more "cartoon and Paid DLC-friendly," Street Fighter might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.

>>361373574
Oh yeah, i forget you can't side step in your games can you?

>>361375136
He is, and always has been a character.
You underaged faggots are so retarded.

>>361376019
Oh yeah because Tekken has not changed at all between T1 and TTT2

>inb4 hurr durr that's correct it has not

HURR DURR SFII had hadoukens and so does SFV guess they have not changed

is there any point in getting revelator on pc?

>>361383972
OBJECTION
THAT IS A FUCKING LIE YOU HAVE TO PAY REAL MONEY FOR HIS OLD LOOK YOU RETARDED FAGGOT

>>361375136
He plays a heel

>>361370003
Well see OP, one has a stupid mayan flat fringe now while the other looks like the don't fix what ain't broke classic coke look

>>361375067

>with just as many if not more players

Eh?

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>>361372784

>>361376694
For you: fighting is mashing buttons like a retard
For me : fighting is a highly paced intellectual game compareable to a chess game sped up by 100 times

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>>361376694
Someone explain tetsuzanku to me.

Is it a fancy shoulder check or do you hit someone with the wide part of your back?

Furthermore, why is it so cool?