"Noctis of Versus 13 and Noctis of FF 15 are different people"

>>359413604
It is a misunderstanding that Versus 13 was delayed by Nomura.
Wada who was president of Square Enix at the time was disliking the management policy that relied on high-risk giant game.
Wada used mobile gaming machines and arcades and was trying to appeal to non-core gamers.
Wada also prioritized MMO. It is because the company can earn income steadily every month.
It took a long time to complete the game engine of FF 13 and it was difficult to produce with Versus 13 at the same time.
After that, a lot of staff was robbed to restore FF 14 from failure.
Versus 13 had neither budget nor staff.
This is certainly because Wada wrote on his FaceBook.
Actually, when Wada was president, Nomura made only software for portable game machines.

2/3

>>359413727
In 2013 the president of Square Enix was replaced from Wada to Matsuda.
Tabata asked Matsuda "let me do the director of FF 15"
Matsuda appointed Tabata as the director of FF 15.
There is no doubt that Tabata responded that way in an interview.
The huge budget that made game, movie and animation was given to Tabata, not Nomura.

This is the history of 10 years. It is the truth.
Japanese enthusiastic FF fans know this.

thank you for reading.
I think that it is difficult to read sentences. I'm sorry.
I am a Japanese. I use Google Translate.
I guess you can not believe it. But it is true.
Please. I want you to spread this story.
Square Enix is sick.
Liars are more influential on the company than creators.

If you look forward to the Square Enix game you will be releasing in the future, please spread this story.
I am helpless.

I pray that I have not violated etiquette.
A signature to revive Versus at "Change.org" has begun.
I do not know if it will be realized. However, we need to communicate our dissatisfaction to SQUARE ENIX.

3/3

FFshock Infinite

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Basically, Versus was killed but the character designs were kept intact and slightly modified (for the worse) so that SE could keep the hype alive and stocks from crashing.

Nomura hasn't said a single word about FFXV since he was let go. He didn't even attend the Uncovered event. There is obviously bad blood here.

Tabata has implied he disliked Versus as any change he's made was justified with the prior version being poor.

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First for downgrades.

>Itamuro
I was wondering who this was since the name is unfamiliar, and
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Saori_Itamuro

Final Flop XV

Tabata really outdid himself this time.

The musical version nomura jokingly wanted would have been a better game than what we got

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Is this still in the game?

"Intentions to turn the game into a musical after Nomura had seen the 2012 film adaptation of Les Misérables were vetoed by the higher-ups at Square Enix"

>people still think this emo faggot would have delivered

>>359414028
This. Musicals get a bad rep for some reason, but Versus could have pulled it off with the Shakespeare tragic vibe. Something like Phantom of the Opera or Les Mis. I know Nomura was joking, but it would have been better than Final Blunder XV even if he did actually do it.

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>>359413974
Also, does anyone have the /v/ leaks six months before the game was released?

The leaker was right about anything. They were drastically behind schedule and the optimizations that went into Episode Duscae could never be translated to the whole game, which is why the full game looks worse than ED.

We have the puzzles to expose the SE and Tabata lies. We just need to piece it all together.

>>359414137
cut

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>XVbros are enjoying their game while versus cucks will never be anything but cucks who fell in love with a game that was never finished.

>>359414012
She's a hack just like Tabata.

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Will you guys buy the loli luna story DLC? :^)

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>>359414259
Posting superior Nomura Noct. Not a whiny sperg like Tabata's Noct.

Sorry, I was off the internet for a while.
What is the problem with XV?

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>>359414164
That would've been pretty refreshing as a game. Musicals are also epics. Hell, The Illiad is just poetry that could easily be made into a musical.

>>359413974
on one hand, that bloom is absolutely heretical

on the other, the water reflections look better

looks like a trade-off of effects.

>>359414413
they're the same character senpai

>>359414209
I had info into the game also not as in depth as the other leaker but versus and XV development was a shit show.

The good news in all this is it finally came out and can move that big ass team around to the other projects.

I don't understand why you make a bunch of content only to cut it. It's almost like they just made trailers to make trailers and had no plan for how things would fit together

>>359414472
It wasn't identical to the fanfiction I wrote 7 years ago.

>>359414012
>allowing a complete nobody write the biggest game in your company's history
Why? Honestly, why? Did all the talent ditch with Nomura because they got pissed with how SE were doing shit?

>>359414574
Bravo, Tabata.

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>>359414164
>Implying you don't want Atlantica part 2:Electric boogaloo

>>359414574
They didn't Nomura had a very rough draft of wtf is going on but that is it. The same problem kinda plagues KH3 BUT Disney is on the ball.

>>359413974
the sun is just in a different position

if you was staring at it you would also get more specular on the water and bloom

>>359414504
No they're not XV-kun. His voice actor even said they weren't.

>>359414530
>Can move that big ass team
Kinda, it's good thing that they finally shit it out and move on.

This game is so boring almost XIII-tier, I hope XVI will be better than this

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>>359414530
>The good news in all this is it finally came out and can move that big ass team around to the other projects.
This is probably the only good thing. This clusterfuck was a resource drain on SE and they still managed to make it look like a barely funded PS3 game.

Any good boss fights in this gaem? Im playing KH2 and the "Data" fights are blowing my mind.

>>359414574
Money and DLC, were you born yesterday?

>>359414574
This. If you spend money on assets you damn well make sure those assets don't go to waste.

This game should get the "most chaotic director" award.

>>359414712
>rough draft

Nigger the scenario was complete in 2010. All they had to do was make the game and every update showed it was coming along nicely just slowly because SE are fuckups.

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>>359413974
I HURT MYSELF TODAY

>>359414829
Fuck off Kagari don't accuse me of being XVkun

can you at least use armiger to block bullets/rockets in this game, like in the trailers?

>>359414887
>Any good boss fights in this gaem?
Aranea and Ravus are the only real boss fights in the game, and neither require strategy or thinking on foot.

Just hold circle to attacka and evade occassionaly.

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>>359415034
TO SEE IF I STILL FEEL

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Nomura has never created an ending this good. Tabata wins just on that.

>>359414887
Every fight is exactly the same.

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>In addition to Famitsu, director Tetsuya Nomura also spoke with Dengeki PlayStation regarding his upcoming game. Although the interviews were largely similar, several new, important details have surfaced.

>By far the most important thing, is that the game’s scenario is now completed. Not much was elaborated on, but we can only assume that means the entire script and story have been fleshed out and finalized.

>Character designs are also finished. We saw Noctis’ redesigned outfit back in December so it looks like we’ll soon see what has become of Stella and the other characters featured in trailers past. Naturally, this also means that Roen has completed the game’s clothing designs.

This was in 2010. Six years ago.

>>359415148
I wonder why they removed that bloom, it actually made the game look better

>>359415148
The one on the left looks nicer.

>>359415175
Dark and edgy =/= good. KH1 has a better ending.

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>>359415148
I FOCUS ON THE PAIN

>>359415036
I'm not Kagari, XV-kun. Go lick her hairy ass.

>>359415175
This will be a good ending if they deliver a good story and character...sadly they did not and the ending end up as funny instead.

>>359414908
They are not going to add the cut content as DLC. It was from the main story.

It costs more money to make a bunch of useless trailerfu content than it does to just make content for the real game and show those off.

Why do people say Tabata created Luna when she is in this Nomura trailer from 2013? I dont get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcUSXub_ypU

>>359415175
The ending was shit worse then type-0 which is a feat.

>>359415234
Performance issues, it wasn't bloom, it was a Global Illumination technique, with it active PS4/Xbone just couldn't run it smoothly enough

It makes the world look much flater & boring without it, it's a shame

>>359414887
The first boss is pretty fun but I haven't gotten that far.

>>359415312
I don't get why they waste so much time going over the same landscape and redoing it 20 times. Just do it once and be done with it. Look at all these useless changes of tree placement and shit

>>359415231
>design character
>"Prompto's dad"
>has 30 seconds of screen time in a cutscene

>>359415175
Except this is the same as Type-0's "everybody dies at the end" cookie cutter ending Tabata shoehorns into everything.

Outside of this, Tabata also spoke about the free “Holiday Pack” downloadable content. It’s due out before the end of the year, and will implement “New Game Plus” and a “Level Cap Creation Feature.”

What will NG+ feature?

>>359415231
I already forgot what happened to the dude in your pic. I guess he just died at some point?

>>359414492
The water also lacks the physics of ED and overall the lighting is toned down a lot, and I'm not just talking about that hideous mess of bloom and godrays.

>>359415531
They enjoying eternal paradise in the end.

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>>359415312
BENEATH THE STAINS OF TIME

>>359415545
Secret ending where everyone dies twice instead of once.

>>359415545
> NG+
> Cooking
> Mid journey banter reminiscent of skits

Tabata really wants to make a Tales game huh?

>>359415231
The PS3 version was mostly done, but Square wanted to move it to PS4 because of performance issues, which is ironic because the demos ran like shit on PS4

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>>359415424
That's stella m8

>>359415580
Died off screen with Emperor Aldercapt.

>>359415545
>What will NG+ feature?
Nothing. You will just be able to play the game again while carrying over stuff.

Don't expect them to actually do work for a free update.

>>359415638
Final game shadowing looks better there, although the ground textures may be lower res

>>359415545
>What will NG+ feature?
No one knows for now. But someone on the XV forums who usually translates stuff said this

>Just a small note, the Japanese article says 「強くてニューゲーム」.

>Now I am not entirely sure (take it as a grain of salt), but I think this will also bring hard mode(?). ''強くて'' translates to ''stronger'. I haven't seen this kind of terminology used before like this. So I really cannot say with 100% certainty. But it's possible that New Game Plus will also introduce a harder difficulty.

>>359415713
She looks more like luna.

>>359415715
Why does everyone die offscreen?

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>Please refrain from reposting. If possible, try to skim the board for threads pertaining to your topics/info that may have already been posted

>people posting graphics like they matter at this fucking point

Gameplay and story is confirmed shit, but yea GOAT because they improved their embarassing graphics a bit.

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>you get to fight the CEO of SE and kill him over and over again

That's actually pretty cool. Take all your frustration out on his shit management.

>>359415885
The gameplay is pretty good.

>XIII was a linear mess with a 20 hour tutorial
>XIV was a garbage MMO turned lackluster WoW clone
>XV is the MGSV of the series

Is there any saving this series?

>>359415838
It's Stella, Nomura even talked about that very render. He had nothing to do with Luna.

>>359413604
>This is a remark of a Japanese voice actor who played Noctis.
Source?

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>>359414381
Nobody gives a single fuck about Luna

>>359415959
15 is a good game and it's time for you to move on.

>>359415959
XV.

Easily the best FF since X and on track to be the best selling title.

>>359415890
Literally the only good thing to come out of XV is this DLC.

>>359415890
i might buy this game to kill this faggot

>>359415838
Luna has the same design as Stella just different role and name.

>>359415841
I'm pretty sure they don't make it in time because Tabata was fond of killing his character on screen, lol.

>>359415948
t. XV-kun

>>359416001
That was a trailer for XV not versus.

>>359414980
If you read the interviews it was more because the next gen was fast approaching and all had until then was a 1st draft and scattered scenes nomura thought were kewlz.

>>359416140
Nomura was head of XV before Tabata took over you fucking retard. It's not Luna, get the fuck over it.

>>359415959
>XIII was a linear mess with a 20 hour tutorial
You were still getting stupid tutorials in the orphan's cradle.

>>359415890
It is Wada that is shit not him, he just got a left over from Wada.

The storyline is incomplete, plain and simple. The only thing that feels complete is the final boss confrontation. They gutted everything else. Ten fucking years and this is what they eventually shipped. Thank god I'm already numb to this pain.

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>>359416036
Fuck you.

>>359416124
I'm getting pretty sick of you shitposters ruining every goddamn thread by calling everyone XV kun.

>>359416153
>kewlz

What did he mean by this?

>>359416105
>Same design

No way, Luna is some generic anime moeblob, Stella on the other hand was designed very carefully to look like a generic white girl, which actually got some complaints back in the day which Nomura clarified she was suppose to be normal looking, cause of the whole "fantasy based on reality" thing

>>359416105
>I'm pretty sure they don't make it in time because Tabata was fond of killing his character on screen, lol.
Literally most of the characters in XV died off screen

>Ravus
>Iedolas
>Verstael
>The bros

Luna got stabbed but her death was also off screen,

>>359416210
She doesn't look anything like stella tho.

>>359416274
Whatever you say XV-kun.

>>359416389
Do you have anything to back that up?

The there was some girl in Altissia wearing a tiny tank top/sports bra and super short shorts.
requesting pics because i missed her.

>>359416365
Are you literally retarded? Stella's 2013 render was released before Luna's shit render. Luna is the one who looks like Stella. They used Stella's design to make Luna.

>>359416269
Pfft she looks like my friends little brother .

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>>359414752

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>>359416451
Not what you requested, but this girl is the best.

>>359416269
Why does she look like a little Japanese boy with blue eyes and platinum blonde hair?

also

>3 votes

Kek

>>359416348
Yeah, I think the leak is very accurate that the production of this game was so rush.

>>359416497
Pics please

>>359416497
pics pls

>>359416480
I actually lost interest with versus after the first few trailers desu.

>>359416497
You friend's little brother looks like 3DPD shit.

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>wait what who's that
>cool finally a villain
>oh I guess he's dead

What the fuck is this garbage?

>>359415175
>What is Crisis Core?

>>359416516
Goddamit anon.

I guess Tabata bet on the wrong horse with his Hillary cameo though.

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>hear about how 15 was supposed to be another game
>see all the insane advertising stunts
>read about how this game has to do 10 mil or SE will just become a publishing house
>somewhat interested in the game just because, for good or bad, the FF manages to at least be different
>finally tried 13, ignoring all the hate it got, end up thinking it wasn't too bad, so don't really give too much attention to what people say about games these days
>see people on /v/ freaking out and bringing up all sorts of things

Can someone give me the tl:dr version of what everyone is upset about?

Is there any trick/magic combo to demolish the level 50 something samurai dude in the mine dungeon in early levels or he's just there to say fuck you come back later?

>>359416680
CC was shit tho. Just like type-0 and XV.

>>359416716
versus fags didn't get their game and now they won't stop crying.

>>359413974
That's not a downgrade the light source on Duscae demo is abhorrent.

However, I'm of the opinion that Versus 13 looked better even when it ran on PS3.

>>359416829
So, I've heard about that game but I don't know anything about it.

Can you fill me in or would a google search be better?

>>359416716
>finally tried 13, ignoring all the hate it got, ended up thinking it wasn't too bad

Confirmed shiteater pls go.

So does Sauron from Kingsglaive ever come back or get explained? How the fuck was he so strong and important if he dies to Nyx before you even start XV up?

>>359416664
Leftovers from when they tried to make recurring bosses for the game.

He obviously was supposed to have some backstory with Cor.

>>359416716
>finally tried 13, ignoring all the hate it got, end up thinking it wasn't too bad
ANON NO

>>359416687
Nomura would have never got political, fuck Tabata seriously

>>359416883
XV is shit all on it's own, has nothing to do with Versus. For the record, Versus was superior in every way though. I recommend a google search because you're just going to get biased or cherrypicked diatribes from /v/.

>>359416883
It was mostly just a few cgi trailers/tech demos that was shown over the course of 7 years before it was cancelled.

>>359416903
>XV
>explaining things

Pick one and only one anon.

>>359416903
No. Kingsglaive might as well be not canon, it's completely inconsequential.

>>359416716
Game is barely 20 hours long.

Main heroine isn't even on screen for 23 minutes.

Virtually everyone dies offscreen.

Combat is (apparently) terrible.

Game looks like ass compared to even the previous demos released.

Open world is much smaller than promised, virtually empty, and it doesn't even matter anyways because the game becomes completely linear halfway through.

What are japanese´s opinion on this? If they made death threats to Baba for Tales of I can´t imagine what they think of Tabata

>>359416606
>>359416603
Wtf?

>>359416832
That's because Versus 13 had an art style that made it look distinct

XV is very generic looking, seriously take Noctis out of the pictures & some of the areas could be confused for multiple other games, even i looked at a thumbnail & thought it was MGSV for a bit

>>359416829
To be fair their game looked better than yours

>>359416883
Ever play MGSV? How do you feel about the latter half? This game end up being worse than that at least MGSV has an interesting start, this game is not.

>>359417020
Wrong. 30 mins worth of trailers and tons of interviews over the 7 years detailing gameplay, story, characters mostly Noctis though. There was a lot to get hype over.

>>359417098
>Virtually everyone dies offscreen.
Game inside a game confirmed.

>>359417192
lol no.
That first trailer was edgy as fuck

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>>359416883
Game announced alongside xiii and type-0
Stuck in development for years, focus and money went to fixing 13 and 14
Game switched to mainline title
Switch in directors so original one could focus on kh3 and 7 remake
New director is inexperienced with making a title this large
Rides off versus hype coattails, changes gameplay, promises a bunch of features that aren't in the game
Game comes out, it's disappointing

>>359417105
They are complaining about it last I heard.

>>359417270
Edgy=good, moeshitter

>>359417340
Edgy and being dark two different thing.

>>359417293
>Game comes out, it's disappointing
User score on MC is 7.9

>>359417270
Your mom is edgy for giving birth to a tryhard abomination like you.

>>359417293
I wonder if they will try the shared universe trilogy again

I believe they tried to do it with 12 as well

>it's a xv-kun was burned so hard by the self-induced hype that he flipflopped 180° degrees and hates everyone connected to FF15 thread
wew autism is hell of a disease

>>359417293
>Game switched to mainline title
You can just say that and everything already makes sense, the game had no business being a mainline title.

>>359417372
Good thing it was dark and not edgy then. Loli's getting raepd is the true form of edge XV-kun.

>>359416982
Not that guy but a glimpse on the thread quoted at the beginning of this reply chain shows a lot of bias for FF15.

>Nomura couldn't produce a game, and Tabata had to come in
Wow. They who do it for free are in full force tonight.

>never got political
Got that right. Versus had locations patterned on real life buildings. But not 3DPD. Also, for Regis' son, FF15 Noctis sure doesn't look like his blood. He just looks like a goblin.

>>359416796
>Moving goalposts
You talked about endings, and that what I´m discussing with you. If you are wrong, admit it you faggot.

>>359417410
The first trailer was the very definition of try hard edgyness.
I remember liking it in high school but now it's just embarrassing
>>359417536
It was just edgy senpai.

>>359417507
>xv-kun
weebus not allowed

>>359417507
>XV-kun got shit on so hard he has nothing left but to hate on Versus and repeat the same busted arguments over and over

FTFY

>>359415175
>ONE SCENE
>same scene is marred by rest of final quarter

>>359415175
What about 3rd Birthday? Didn't everyone also die at the end of that?

>>359417270
nice buzzword opinion, faggot

>>359413604
>>359413727
>>359413813
>xv-kun is now roleplaying as honorabu japanesu to explain why the game ended up nothing like the hype and broken promises and pinpoints one single person for the failure of the game instead of the whole company

>>359417643
It's true tho

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Was Cool Rock ever added?

>>359417409
>MC score
That's worse than Amazon buyer Review, people never bring MC user score up for discuss for a reason, anon.

>>359417606
Whatever you say XV-kun.

>>359417606
I noticed the distinct hairstyle at first, but then the red eyes made me burst into treats.
Square should read less shonen trash for inspiration.

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>no source
>expects anyone to believe things without facts

>>359417606
The trailer was still really good, even if it was a 12 year old's wet dream

>>359417372
I just said edgy is good. What about that didn't you understand?

>>359417409
Yep, disappointing

>>359417606
Edgy or not, it was a great trailer.

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>>359417737
>calling an edgy trailer edgy makes me XV kun

>>359417695
No

>>359417825
>>359417763
Edgy trailers are inherently bad.
>>359417765
How old are you?

>>359417718
It's only meaningless when the score is bad, because it's due to 0bombs. The fact that people are willing to shill for this game means that they like it, and that is frightening.

>>359417631
More like
>XV-kun trying to save face and now projects all his delusions on versus instead of FFXV
Now he can stay delusional for the next 100 years because versus will never be a thing and he can never be "proven wrong", because he's sperging about cancelled vaporware.

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>Tabata cuts everything from Versus and doesn't even replace it with something better or much of anything at all

kek

It's literally MGS5 all over again.

>>359417692
i'd rather edge than gay faggot unfinished shit, at least Noct had a personality in VS

>>359417671
The copypasta blames wada, the inexperienced writer, and tabata my man.

>>359417854
What the fuck is a XVkun anyway?
I see that term in these threads when people switch to passive agressive like its some sort of punching bag.

>>359417952
32.

>>359417952
>inherently bad

Opinion discarded.

>>359417952
sorry not everything is moe happy fag times, buzzword spitter. Edge is fun.

>>359417967
This.
The versus shilling here reeks of desperation.
>XV turned out to be shit but versus would've been great.
Now it's an endless self-confirmation loop because cant prove or disprove "facts" about something that never really existed.

>>359417962
>Shill
Not only shill XV with 10 but they spam 0 other game too, this whole thing with MC user score is just disgusting, man.

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>>359418034
XV-kun is anyone who likes XV

Its a real shame because I really liked a lots of the characters design in this game.

This guy for example
>>359416664
What a fucking waste.

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>>359418034
He's actually a real person that's a notious shitposter but these days it's just used for anyone likes XV.
>>359418007
>Noct had a personality in VS
pic related is for you.

>>359417967
You already tried to push this to get people to hate Versus XV-kun. It didn't work then it's not going to work now. Take the L for once in your delusional life. XV is shit.

>>359418026
As if anyone except for XV-kun gives a shit what monkey faced gook fucked that game up.
You're the only one who memorizes all those chinamen to distritube blame for that blunder on whoever you like right now.

Fact is XV released, it's nothing like the hype promised, versus was never a thing and pretty much vaporware.
Nobody cares what specific gook is to blame for that blunder except for you.

>>359418041
I don't believe you.

>>359418109
>>XV turned out to be shit but versus would've been great

Versusfags have always said this and are going to keep saying because XV is indeed shit. Apply yourself XV-kun.

>>359417990
Tabata cored out a lot of bullshit and replaced it with as much playable game as he could because Nomura doesn't know how to put a game out when he doesn't have people breathing down his neck or know not to implement stupid feature creep without Sakaguchi there to laugh at him and tell him to stop wasting his time with his retarded ideas.

The game was pretty good until i noticed a fatal flaw
it uses the american units to measure distance and i can't fucking change it

>>359418303
not him but XV is a fun game.

>>359418304
t. XV-kun

>>359418179
>push this to get people to hate Versus
XV-kun, why are you shilling for a canelled game that never ammounted to more than a few gameplay mockups you desperate lunatic?
XV is released, it's shit, you were wrong about nobody can make a sound statement about versus because it never came to be, you delusional retard.

>>359418271
I actually saw this copypasta on /vg/ yesterday
>>>>/vg/161550842
But whatever man

>>359418178
That Cap America actor is a huge faggot.

>>359418315
>american units
>not best units
>know youve traveled a mile after 2000 steps
>do you know how long a km is?

Yah just what I thought

>>359418376
Sure, I believe you shill.

>>359418304
Tabata cut a lot of his own trailers too. Like Luna's and Noct's backstory from the dawn trailer. He doesn't have a single idea what he's doing.

>>359418179
>>359418303
>XV-kun is calling everyone else XV-kun now in a desperate attempt to shift blame
Why are you shilling for vaporware that never existed you loser?
Versus was never a thing, you wasted 3 years of your life of having internet fights with XV sceptics who turned out to be right and now you project all your insane delusions and hopes on a dead game that will never come out.
Seek help

>>359418271
>Nobody cares what specific gook is to blame for that blunder except for you.
Just say square-kun to be on the joke, it's not like they release good games anymore.

>>359418397
You can't shill a canceled game XV-kun.

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>>359413604
>no source

>>359418510
k

>>359418315
I read on Neogaf that for one guy it suddenly changed to metric system and he has no idea how to change it back

>>359418576
>having internet fights with XV sceptics

Versusfags saying Versus was better than XV were among those skeptics, but let's ignore that so you can shitpost and try to save face after getting btfo by Tabby himself with Final Blunder XV.

>>359418287
It shouldn't be hard for you to imagine mentally immature people on /v/.

>>359418624
You're insane enough to do it, XV-kun.
Versus was never a thing, so nobody can say for certain what it would've been, so you're a retard for implying it would have been better or worse than XV. It never came out, discussion is pointless.
XV turned out exactly like all the sceptics told you when you were still to busy trying to defend it, you delusional moron autist ape and now you try to pretend that versus would've been that game you were shilling for.
Get psychological help.

>>359416716

>Can someone give me the tl:dr version of what everyone is upset about?

The Final Fantasy XV that we finally got after a fucktarded amount of development (hell) time, despite doing some impressive things (depending on your subjective opinion), sucks ass and continues the trend of Square Enix fucking up all their big titles.

This was supposed to be this glorious, big deal, an amazing game with a decade of hype instead it combines the biggest fuckups of all the previous FF titles combined:

-Shitty ass "story" that gets almost no focus at all.

-And on top of that its a hideous Frankestein's monster of nonsensical sequitors and dropped and mangled plot points since they just took the mangled remnants of Versus 13 and through them in a pot, with characters dying of screen en masse, most anything not having any point, etc.

-Much like Metal Gear Solid V was a glorified Afganistan and Africa simulator, FF15 is a glorified Eos simulator. You spend the VAST majority of whatever hours you spend playing the game pretending you're playing some combination of an MMO and a sandboxy GTA game. IE, fetch quests, killing mobs, grinding useless shit, cooking, camping, just randomly exploring the world aimlessly, FUCKING ANYTHING besides playing an actual RPG plot.

-The vast "impressive" world is completely fucking empty. Other than the topography and sparkly bits like the meteor craters, there's fucking NOTHING to see, no one to meet, nothing to do. At least in FF12 when you had this shit, if you probed deeply into the dark corners of the world you could get cool gear and hidden summons and other optional bosses.

-Another problem from FF12, and tying back to the plot as mentioned above, because it's an aborted mess of a plot barely salvaged from Versus: The actual plot, villainy, important developments, ALL HAPPEN OFF SCREEN. It feels like there's a FF game out there somewhere you're missing while Noct and crew have a gay camping trip.

>>359418759
>Versusfags saying Versus was better than XV were among those skeptics, but let's ignore that so you can shitpost
You write exactly like XV-kun. Right down to calling rational people "shitposters" while you're the biggest shitposter of them all, writing fanfiction about your stupid cancelled vaporware game as if it was a real game.

>>359418812
Go to sleep XV-kun. Your game is shit and Tabata is a fag.

>>359418824
There are plenty of side dungeons and quests.

>>359418812
Versus would have been great from what we've seen, we've been trying to beat this into your delusional head for years XV-kun but you chose to close your eyes and ears to the truth and now that you got btfo you're still pathetically clinging to your same arguments. XV is shit, you were proven wrong get over it and take your meds.

>>359418887
But it's anti who would write fanfiction about versus13 since the reason he is anti15 is because he is pro-versus13. And never the two shall meet.

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>>359416516
>shitting on the god Emperor of mankind
fucking XVcucks

>>359418909
>everyone who doesnt delusionally hype a game that was stuck in development limbo is XV-kun
Yeah, seek help XV-kun, it's so obvious that it's you.
Nobody can say how versus would've turned out, because it never ammounted to more than a few gameplay mockups, you delusional retard.
XV came out and it turned out exactly like the sceptics told you and now you pretend that you were talking about versus all along.
Your retarded ass discussion style gives you away you loser.
Even right down to how you talk about tabata as if you had a personal grudge against him when you defended him even 2 weeks ago.
Nobody here is defending tabata, you're the only one to get so emotional to actually care about that clown in one way or another.
XV was a giant blunder, deal with it

>>359418887
XV-kun, you're the one who calls Versusfags fanfiction writers and that all they had was "headcanon". Apply yourself XV-kun, this is just sad.

>>359419007
>XV is shit, you were proven wrong get over it
Where do you see me defending XV you insane autist?

>>359418824
FF15 has some pretty alright endgame content to explore.
It's the typical multi-floor dungeon hellscape of death and world bosses but its much more than MGSV where you'd find a music tape and cry yourself to sleep because that's all there is.

>>359417098
>Open world is much smaller than promised
That's for the better. Making it bigger would be worse unless more towns were added. Also I'm on chapter 13 and I can't go back to the open world so I'm assuming open world is only in the first half of the game and then it's removed until I beat the game.

>>359419108
Any world system that allowed him to get elected is retarded. We need a parliamentary system.

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>>359419108

>>359419132
>XV-kun still calling everyone else XV-kun in order to shift the blame for being constantly wrong for 2 years
Where do you see me defending XV? You insane retard.
You're just picking a new object for your obsession and now it turns out it's versus.
Nobody can say how it would have turned out.
It had a few mockup trailers and that's it.

>>359419128
>>359419221
>I'm not XV-kun believe me!

Okay XV-kun, time to go to sleep. Have a glass of warm milk, it might calm you down for once.

>>359419321
you have to go back

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>>359419336

>>359419305
You're exactly right!

I coulda sworn I added that somewhere when writing that post.

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>>359419336

>>359419128
>>359419356
>these paragraph long sperg posts
>I'm not XV-kun I sweare YOU ARE NOT ME REEEE

Get a trip already so I can filter you.

>>359419361
Legit question, what do you get out of calling everyone else XV-kun?
Is that your "payback" for /v/ shitting on your for 3 years and turning out to be right with everything?
Your bipolar insanity is shinning through so much.
Now suddenly everyone who is rational about versus is a xv-lover in your warped mind.

>>359419403
I'm white. I was also born in the US (unfortunately). I want somma dat free healf caia in Canada.

>>359419420
>This is the final boss

The fuck were they thinking?

>>359417098
>Open world is much smaller than promised
It's already way too big for its own good, i don't know how they'd make it feasably bigger unless they went old style with you being a giant on the world map and just go from key location to key location.

So, when's this last Active Time Report happening?
They said sometime post release, do we have a date yet?

>>359419523
>>359419420
>>359419336

And people say Versus was edgy and FF15 isn't...

>>359419498
>xv-kun calling people who are shitting on xv xv-kun in an insane attempt to rationalize having been wrong for 4 years.
It's obvious you are XV-kun.
Why don't you just start avoiding /v/?
Cant be healthy for you to be btfo all the time

>>359419305
It's not better because it's still shit.

>>359415959
Yes. Square needs to stop using shitty sony consoles as the base of creation for the games.

>>359419647
They didn't. They used PC. Which was why all the early shit looked 10x better than the turd that actually got released.

>>359419638
You're not wrong.

>>359419628
>Cant be healthy for you to be btfo all the time

Yea sure XV-kun. You're SQUASHING everyone as usual.

>>359419581
Wait till you see the size of the map they originally planned.

I'm not upset about the world not being as huge as that for obvious reasons but considering how empty the world is anyways it might have been nice just to have more changes of scenery.

>versus-kun is the new /v/ cancer and this time there will be no end to his autism because versus was so shit it never got out of the planning stages
Yuck... just when I thought we could have normal final fantasy threads again.

>>359419647
this, they should go back to being Nintendo exclusive. It isn't a coincidence that once they went to Sony the quality dropped off pretty fast.

>>359419832
You're the only cancer in these threads XV-kun.

>>359419628
>>359419742
everyone is xv-kun

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>it's an XV-kun samefag argues with himself episode

>>359419742
How am I XV-kun? You are obsessed.

>>359419876
>this, they should go back to being Nintendo exclusive
FF16: Now in stunning 720p 20 fps

>>359419895
That's what XV-kun wants you to think. Trust no one, not even yourself.

>>359419913
When he turned out to be wrong about every aspect about FFXV I was so glad we'd finally gotten rid of him.

>>359419895
>>359419967
>XV-kun lore is deeper than XV's lore

Pottery. Still just as shit though.

>>359419514
Then move, renounce your citizenship. Nothing is stopping you, you fucking retard.

>>359414164
>Realize your intended Magnum Opus at the company you've given so much to being yanked from underneath your feet because of bad business practices
>acting like you can't understand that he'd resort to drastic measures to save it from another man soiling his vision

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Stop shitting up the thread you fucking XV-kun this and that shitters

We're here to discuss the game, take your off-topic shit flinging somewhere else

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>>359419967

>>359417695
A fucking rock

>>359420113
Musical Versus would've been fun to be honest. More than I can say for XV.

>ywn sing an epic song as you cut people down on the battlefield

>>359419935
XIII was 720p 20fps and no one cared. XV is steady 20fps also. What point are you trying to make?

>>359420098
You'd be surprised how hard it is to move when you're poor. You'd be surprised how no country will take you in when you're poor.

>>359420237
13 was steady 30. And was released in 2009. XV is just a turdy mess and is 900p-1080p

>>359420246
But Canada said it's a sanctuary country and they also said they have no borders. You can just walk in and they'll welcome you with open arms.

>>359420375
Is it true that Canadian's ride on mooseback and blow kisses to everyone feeding them pancakes with maple syrup?

>>359420246
Oh unless you're a crazy mooslem refugee, then they'll take you.

>>359420375
I'm white you fucking retard. No one wants poor white people. Only brown ones.

>>359420375
Canada has actual immigrations laws, so no.

You have to undergo a long screening process before you're even considered for immigration.

>>359420237
Japanese devs have no idea how to make proper game that run well since 7th gen and onward. It baffles me why they complain that they need "stronger" consoles to work with when they can't even optimize their games properly.

>>359417636
I finished that kinda fun show.
She survives but there's some body switching going on since Eve entered Aya's body and Aya got a new hotter body for plot reasons that are giving me an headache just to remember it.
still fun

>>359420519
Then why the fuck are they criticizing Trump for wanting stronger immigration policies and a wall?

>>359420339
To add to the defense of XIII, many cutscenes were not rendered by the game engine, the stuff that would have been heavy for the PS3 and 360 were made into pre-rendered cutscenes.

>>359420160
Fuck off XV-kun

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>>359420227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sss37XPN-4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x4zEXmG-o

Tatsuhisa Suzuki (Noct seiyuu) can sing too. Would've been nice.

>>359420816
XV-kun stop falseflagging

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>>359414012
>the hack that wrote Dissidia's story is the hack that killed XV

fucking pottery. Is Tabata fucking this chick or something?

>>359418938

>Plenty of side quests and dungeons
>Ohwaityou'reseriousletmelaughharder.jpg

I don't consider single sentence, no story fetch quests to be "side quests".

Dave: "Howdy partner, go find me some dog tags. Let me mark right where they are on your map. Thanks for bringing me them, here's a free 2,000 exp for doing nothing."

Sania: "Aren't I fucking WACKY?! Go fetch me 5 frogs from this spot. The search area's only 10 ft. in diameter, so it'll take 3 seconds. You're already done? GREAT!"

Takka: "I...grg...uhn...need food. Bad. Hey, bro, could you travel across the map and get me three garlic berries? You got them? Well, I'm gonna give you some food items you can get for free on the map in 4,000 places."

These are shit. This is not an MMO.

>>359418271
This board cares, everyone was shitting on Toriyama after XIII.

SIGN THIS BROS

https://www change org/p/ square-enix-final-fantasy-versus-reboot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXN1KJ2_G0M
this is tabata's vision...

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>>359420983
Tabata has a wife and children, fucking retard

>>359421259
Fuck off. Yeah let's spend even more time and money to make another version of a game that already took ten years. Great fucking idea dipshit.

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>>359421312

Yes, and?

>>359421312
and

>>359414601
Kind of, not to mention SE has a talent director like Hiroyuki fucking Ito but instead of let him work on mainline FF, he use him to deal with mobile section, WTF.

SE has many talent people with them but they have no fucking idea how to use them instead they let a hack like Toriyama and Tabata handle the big project...fucking why?

>>359421259
I doubt SE would ever let Nomura remake it as intended, but I'll sign because Tabata's a hack.

>>359421430
>>359421442
Married men don't cheat on their wives, especially in Japan

>>359413604
>>359413727
>>359413813
>>359413942
>>359413972
>>359413974
To be completely honest this reads like counter-shilling by compeittion. I didn't like any FF game post 6 and 15 is no exception but there's something incredibly fake about these posts.

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>>359421546
>Japanese men don't cheat on their wives

>>359421304
what a boss fight.

>>359417695
I want to remind people that shit like this costed time and money, it is not hard to model a fucking rock realistically.

Money spent on this shit went into:
>food
>photography of said food,
>hiking trips
>photography of those hiking trips
>scanning assets in from said hiking trips
>fashion experts
>worthless fucking VR
>re-writing the story because Tabata was not too keen on it
>bad combat where he has to ASK us how to make it better
>a CGI movie that fucking bombed and hired expensive actors for VOICE ACTING


This shit is literally my fucking nightmare, so much changed in my life waiting for this game except for the hype of the game, I wish I could tell 11 year old me to not look forward to this game because Versus 13 and Early E3 15 are two completely different things. I hope Tabata comes out the other end of this as a fucking Pariah to the game industry.

What I want to know is, did Tabata ask to replace Nomura like the OP is insinuating or was he forcefully put there. I might forgive him the tiniest fucking bit if that is the case, but like how a father would forgive a child rapist for accusing him raping two of his kids instead of one.

>>359421638
gee ya think

>>359421638
Shitposting on /v/ isn't a new thing, but XV is actually shit so who fucking cares.

>>359416065
XII shits on both X and XV but obviously you wouldn't know since you never played it you asshat

>>359421648
If they have children, they certainly don't.

>>359419305
Big open world with nothing in it is bad. So sensibly making smaller world would let devs actually put things in.
But the FFXV world is still empty. They should have just made a linear game with illusion of open world.

>>359419279

>...but its much more than MGSV where you'd find a music tape and cry yourself to sleep because that's all there is.

No, that's pretty much my experience with FF15. The world is beautiful but completely barren. EMPTY. Nonexistent of anything.

You can spend literal HOURS combing the nooks and crannies and corners of the Leiden desert, the Duscae forests, and the Cleignian riverlands and all you'll find are random food drops, the same 4 mob enemies recolored a thousand ways, and, if you're lucky, the exact same fucking gas station with nothing to do but pick up a few more hunts of the same monsters.

There's nothing COOL to see or do or find. There are no virtually no NPCs to talk to or interact with. There are no minigames or diversions. There are no optional summons and only a bare TEENY TINY MININUM of "dungeons", and I use the word very loosely.

>>359421638
Well first off it's a copypasta
but a lot of the stuff in it are true

>>359421638
>shitposting is shilling

lol

XV is a turd anyway, who the fuck cares if people shit on it. Good, it deserves it.

>>359421546
They're hardcore at it both husband and wife, Nips is a literal cuck country.

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I was disappointed with FFXV until I learned that Ken-Sama is in the game.

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>>359421312
So does Kojima but you're a fool if you think he's not filling out every inch of the Joost's sugar walls with his superior asian cock every night

>>359421638
FF15 really is Bioshock Infinite though. Redone like 5 times

>>359421867
I thought Ken-sama died honorably in the tsunami? Is it his ghost? 2spoopy5me

>>359421769
I wish I could be this young and naive again

>>359421867
Ken-sama is a lot better looking than that guy

I think Versus XIII would have been a 10/10 game but being XV a 7,5/10 game I'll just move on.

You can't turn back the past and 7,5 for a FF is a nice step up from the 5/10 FF XIII

>>359421710
>>359421830
>>359421843
Whether or not 15 is shit is irrelevant to the quesiton at hand. Rival corps shitting up /v/ with formulaic hate threads isn't a good thing.

>>359421948
>Joost

Kojima is inlove with Geoff, stop.

>>359421817
>TEENY TINY MININUM of "dungeons", and I use the word very loosely.
Can you give a number? you make it sound like there's 2 or 3 and i already found 2 in the desert, i'm not counting the goblin tunnel because that's above ground and not multi leveled like the mine for example.

>>359421683
>What I want to know is, did Tabata ask to replace Nomura like the OP is insinuating or was he forcefully put there.
I seriously doubt that happened. Look at his past record, no sensible person would just let him direct a mainline Final Fantasy game.
What I imagine happened was that bosses at Squenix saw Versus developement being a mess and not going anywhere, but with how much had been put into the project they couldn't just axe it. So they took the valuable director off the project, and picked a small-name from the company who was expendable and told him to make Final Fantasy XV from stuff that was finished. Nobody would reject offer to direct mainline FF in this day and age, but the project was a mess. They threw Tabata to wolves.
I imagine he noticed this pretty soon, but wanted to leave his mark to history, thus resulting in the revised plot, movie, anime series and all the grandiose marketing.

>>359422104
It's not "rival corps" People have been shitposting against XV for the past year you fucking newfag.

>>359422060
XV is a turd tho.

>>359422060
I still can't get past Snow's "resistance"fashion model rejects section.
Does it get any better after that? i'm pratically hating everyone besides the chocobo nest afroman.

>>359421979
>>359421867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXKnOYf8d04

>>359422209
Genuine shitposters are not this fucking bad at shitposting.

>Itamuro is a female, an inexperienced writer.
>First for downgrades
>Masturbating over Japanese voice actors
This reads like someone marking checkboxes on a "how to tortanic" list. "Hello fellow kids".

>>359422548
>Masturbating over Japanese voice actors
That's omni present in japan, you can't really escape that.

>>359421756

>XII shits on both X and XV

No, XII is the next shittiest game following this one, discounting the MMOs. It has most of the same fucking problems this game has:

-Pretends it's an MMO cause that's what the creator obviously wanted to make, cause it apes one in EVERY way, fucking off the fact that it's a single player, console RPG.
-Shit, nonexistent story that happens off-screen. You spend 90% of the game trudging from one wilderness to the other across the map whilst looking for nethicite, while the whole plot, political intrigue, character events and deaths, and the grinding of the war and imperial machine happens ELSEWHERE with other people and you don't even hear about most of it.

-To say nothing of the plot appearing out of nowhere with crystal aliens in the last few hours of the game and the random nonsense that is the finale.

-Shit characters and character management outside of Balthier alone and MAYBE Basch, Vaan and Penelope were literally added by execs at the last second and no one has any arcs.

I could go on forever. Mainstream console, single player RPGs should FIRST AND FOREMOST by engaging adventures with evolving, "epic" (in the literary sense) journeys with at least an attempt at complex characters with arcs and twists. With motivations we care about, exotic locations we explore one after the other, etc. aping an "open" sense while staying linear enough that we can appreciate goalpoints.

Added bonuses in lots of fun NPCs, recurring villains, side quests that have their own story or better yet, fit into the main story, lots of dungeons or equivalent areas to delve into, etc.

In other words, pretty much what no final Fantasy since X has managed to do, let alone a ton of other SquEnix RPGs or other companies for that matter,.

>>359415354
>They are not going to add the cut content as DLC

Heh, sure

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>>359415312
>>359415148
I bet you're one of those fags that thinks the right looks better.

>>359415525
>Prompto's dad
what

>>359422548
>Itamuro is a female, an inexperienced writer.
It's not wrong

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>>359422801
Tell me how they readd this and tell you to replay the story to see it

>>359422348
The game is not bad, just mediocre

It gets better later in the story though

>>359422829
Both of those are bullshots though as PS4 games look a lot worse than that

Also The Last Remnant was really good.

>>359422923
Ears for days

>>359420519
Yet people threatened to move to Canada if Trump won purely based on his illegal immigration policies

>>359421152
>Sania: "Aren't I fucking WACKY?! Go fetch me 5 frogs from this spot. The search area's only 10 ft. in diameter, so it'll take 3 seconds. You're already done? GREAT!"

That one pissed me off
I couldn't find the 5th frog after checking multiple times so just left

>>359423050

It really was.

>>359423652

You hear a croaking sound when one is near.

>game uses assets, and other things from cancelled project to make the most of sunk cost
You do realize this literally happens all the time right?

>>359413974
>there are people itt who will complain about this, while at the same time cheering against a PC port.

>>359421817
>There are no optional summons

Carbuncle

>hiring a literal nobody as a writer
Can somebody explain this? Where did Jun Akiyama go?

post a pick of Itamuro, I'll let my dick decide

>>359423825
Tabata was the one that scrap all of it to begin with, SE want him to complete XV instead he scrap all do it and begin it anew...again and it result in, he could not make it in time. Not to mention all that money spend with KG...like who the fuck green lit that shit? Not to mention all those piss poor marketing it make the film flop, holy shit.

>>359424142
After X they lost all their good talent.
So a literal who was better then the hacks you know
>>359424323
Could you try typing that again. But in english?

>>359418434
No, you don't because you're an uneducated americuck.
Having absolutely random sizes for measurements is so stupid and illogical only burger land would use it.

>>359423532
No, it was based either they are fucked in the head and retarded or on the fact that he is going to fuck them over in some way financially by either removing their entitlements or something else.

>>359424430
*better bet.

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>>359424210
I don't know...

>>359424576
FF15: Written by fujoshi for fujoshi

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>>359424640
she doesn't even arouse my yellow fever

still wanna see her tits

>>359418434
>do you know how long a Km is
1000 meters
10000 decimeters
100000 centimetres
1000000 milimitres

>>359423020
the point of that pic is not to promote a game but to show the difference between certain graphical options.

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>it's all Tabata
>Nomura totally isn't a hack

Meanwhile, Kingdom Hearts has been a steaming pile of shit past the first game.