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The actor of FF 15 said that "Noctis of Versus and Noctis

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"Noctis of Versus 13 and Noctis of FF 15 are different people"
"I read the script of Versus 13 many times, so it was difficult to switch my mind."
"There was an unrealistic psychological depiction in the script of FF 15, I interrupted recording for an hour and consulted with the staff."
This is a remark of a Japanese voice actor who played Noctis.

The script of FF 15 is not written by Nojima.
Itamuro wrote the script of FF 15. Itamuro is a female, an inexperienced writer.
Tabata appointed Itamuro as a screenwriter.
Nomura and Nojima did not touch FF 15 at all since it was dismissed to 2013.

Nomura was ordered to give priority to KH 3 and FF 7.
Luna, old Legis, old Noctis are not designed by Nomura. It is a work of another person.
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It is a misunderstanding that Versus 13 was delayed by Nomura.
Wada who was president of Square Enix at the time was disliking the management policy that relied on high-risk giant game.
Wada used mobile gaming machines and arcades and was trying to appeal to non-core gamers.
Wada also prioritized MMO. It is because the company can earn income steadily every month.
It took a long time to complete the game engine of FF 13 and it was difficult to produce with Versus 13 at the same time.
After that, a lot of staff was robbed to restore FF 14 from failure.
Versus 13 had neither budget nor staff.
This is certainly because Wada wrote on his FaceBook.
Actually, when Wada was president, Nomura made only software for portable game machines.
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In 2013 the president of Square Enix was replaced from Wada to Matsuda.
Tabata asked Matsuda "let me do the director of FF 15"
Matsuda appointed Tabata as the director of FF 15.
There is no doubt that Tabata responded that way in an interview.
The huge budget that made game, movie and animation was given to Tabata, not Nomura.

This is the history of 10 years. It is the truth.
Japanese enthusiastic FF fans know this.

thank you for reading.
I think that it is difficult to read sentences. I'm sorry.
I am a Japanese. I use Google Translate.
I guess you can not believe it. But it is true.
Please. I want you to spread this story.
Square Enix is sick.
Liars are more influential on the company than creators.

If you look forward to the Square Enix game you will be releasing in the future, please spread this story.
I am helpless.

I pray that I have not violated etiquette.
A signature to revive Versus at "Change.org" has begun.
I do not know if it will be realized. However, we need to communicate our dissatisfaction to SQUARE ENIX.
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Thank you for the story.
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>>359395748

>written by a female

into the trash it goes *sigh*
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We've been saying this stuff for years now. FF 15 was so bad compared to what we saw of Versus.
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Source pls
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Look, I fucking love Versus (and yes, I also think XV is fucking garbage) and all but you must be retarded if you believe everything that is written by a literal who with zero proof. Versus Noctis and XV Noctis had the same Japanese voice actor. Nomura said himself that it was he who made Tabata as the co-director until SE decided to move Nomura in 7R and start working on KH3.
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>>359396404
Look it up yourself. There isn't a single article anyone could link.
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>>359396497
>Nomura said himself
Nomura is under contract and has to say whatever he's told to say, and nothing more. There's no way Nomura wanted his game to turn out this shit.
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>>359396382
What the hell happened?
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Thanks for the info. So, that is how a hack like Tabata was appointed to direct a big budget game out of the blue, huh? Continuing this practice and your company is doom SE and I guess this is the reason SE never has any new talent, meh.
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>>359396690
Tabata.
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>>359395748
>>359395821
>>359396012
[citation needed]
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>>359395748
Yes we all know FF15 is shit now despite the media blitz that has convinced so many otherwise. you're preaching to the crowd. Go tell facebook or leddit or places that love the game.
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How does it feel to know you'll never play Versus13?
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>>359396923
It hurts, I waited so long, all for nothing

At least that marks off the last of the games I was hopeful for.
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>Nomura wanted 3 games
>surprised when he doesn't even get the first game out

The argument that he didn't have staff or budget makes no sense considering the 13 team was able to put out 13, and 13-2 while Versus only had 1 trailer to show for its development time.
>high-risk giant game.
and how does 13 not apply here too
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>>359396783
I never saw a scene of them inside a tent the whole game. Is this from a trailer?
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>>359396834
There is none. Someone who wrote this just went insane and started making up his own story because he couldn't handle how fucking awful XV has become and he even wants to start his own petition to remake Versus. Still, this is just beyond pathetic and sad.
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>>359397013
The 13 and 14 teams is where Nomura's 'team' was. The only good FFXV trailer was actually Versus and none of it ended up in the final game.
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Here's a more beliveable version
Nomura used too much money on trailers and assets, but didnt deliver the game. To pay of the expenses for creating those assets and instead of abandoning the project it was given to an actual manager to make the game out of those assets and sell it. As Tabata did it
Wooo
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>>359397117
Nomura couldn't deliver the game since his team has constantly been pilfered to do other things like fix the FF14 train wreck
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>>359397117
That's totally not because FF14 was a disaster and the Crystal Tool was such an awful mess they couldn't create more than 2 games while creating it (as every competent engine designer would tell you)

This is why XV is the only Luminous engine game by the way.
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>>359397096
The best XV trailer was E3 2013 though, and Nomura was still director if only in name then.
>>359397096
>FF14 launched in 2010 and work to unfuck it happened in 2011 and 2012
>from 2006 to 2010 Nomura couldn't make a game
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>>359397117
>Nomura used too much money on trailers and assets, but didnt deliver the game.
I doubt that he had troubles with dosh management. He already finished few kh games without a problem.
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>>359396382
You cant be stupid enough to think we would have gotten what was in the webmd
It was just promotional horse shit
Like with the original watchdogs and all the other fucking games that do that.
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>implying Nomura's Noctis would be any better

This is the same guy who keeps spouting psuedobabble about hearts and darkness and all that bullshit. He would've been a Riku at best and Riku is a shit character.
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>>359395748
>Itamuro
>scenario writer of Dissidia 012

No wonder. That explains why this games writing is absolute shit.
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>>359396783

To be fair, it was going to be gay in either version.
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>>359397096
Omen was the best trailer actually
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Friendly reminder that Versus XIII would never have been anything like your fanfiction.
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>>359397402
>Generic Hollywood trailer about the worst part of the entire game
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>>359397334

Matsuno was the last talent to leave that shithole, after they destroyed XII you should've had a pretty good idea at what kind of faggots are in charge since Sakaguchi left
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>>359397013
>Nomura wanted 3 games
He's not though, he want V13 and KH3 never want 7R just do his part as character design and monster design.
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>>359397402
This. But it's Omen and 2013 for me (would rank omen a bit higher). It's a fucking shame that a 4 minute trailer is much more interesting than the whole fucking game. Omen actually shows Luna and Noctis fighting head on.
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>>359397402

Omen is garbage. The CG isn't even Square's and that's painfully obvious. The 2016 TGS trailer is best trailer of the actual game, excluding versus stuff.
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I don't get it. There seems to be such a consensus that it's bad here on /v/ and yet elsewhere people praise it as a return to form.
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>>359397402
>>359397539
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>>359397636
>/v/

There's your answer
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>>359397474
>tfw no new Ogre games

It's not fair. What is he even doing now? I remember the last thing he was working on failed.
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>>359397636

Nothing will bring the golden Sakaguchi years back
It's just a 20 years long phantom pain
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>>359397636
Big Media site and Game Journalist just like how they praise 12 and 13, now look at those 2 game.
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>>359397636

There is no clear consensus. It's always a scramble of loud naysayers and FF dickriders.
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>>359397492
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/338796462/#q338808654
Game was leaked 6 months ago by some S-E insider, he sure as fuck knows more about what happened than you.

Nomura wanted a trilogy, and maybe if he got the first game out he would have gotten a trilogy like Toriyama
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Nice fanfiction Nomuracuck, but your autistic hero is just as responsible for this game being the WORST FF game in the series as Tabata.
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>>359397636
I have no idea what to make of FFXV, people's opinions seem to be all over the place.
It doesn't help that the game looks so unusual.
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>>359397636

There's a guy with a pathologic hateboner and way too much time on his hand shitting on the game 24/7. There was actually a pretty good thread on it a few days ago with a bunch of people being positive about the game, others being critical, perfectly nice thread. And you could tell exactly when he showed up because it went to hell right after.

Of course /v/ is negative about almost every game to some extent and this one's no exception but the overwhelming negativity is mostly due to a single poster.

Also, there are a bunch of longtime fans of the series who perceive the game to be a step into the wrong direction and are very outspoken about it but that just happens with any sufficiently long series that changes as much as FF does.
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>>359397735
2014 Terra Battle iOS, Android Scenario[21]
TBA Unsung Story: Tale of the Guardians Microsoft Windows, iOS, Android Game design, story[22]
TBA Lost Order iOS, Android Director[23]

IOW, he's gone.

Even Tetsuya Takahashi fared better
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>>359397834
>Nomura wanted a trilogy,
I'm glad he didn't get what he wanted. Fuck trilogies and FF sequels.
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>>359397990

is actually for >>359397747
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>"Noctis of Versus 13 and Noctis of FF 15 are different people"
>"I read the script of Versus 13 many times, so it was difficult to switch my mind."

I hope there is a source for this somewhere, but wouldn't surprise me if Tatsu said this. Nomura already talked about all the recording they already had done for Versus and XV Noct is clearly a different person.
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>>359397834
Oh, I think you mean he want to direct 7R, V13 and KH3, and already know about Nomura want trilogy.
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>>359398024
I want to know the real internal SE conflicts that birthed this game
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>>359397492
http://www.gameskinny.com/diho4/final-fantasy-xv-will-have-multiple-sequels
This was widely reported
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>NOMURA DINDU NUFFIN HE A GOOD GOOK
Nomura fanboys love to blame everyone else at Square Enix for his failures. When KH3 is shit, they'll blame Osaka Team. When FF7R is shit, they'll blame Kitase.

Nomura is cancer.
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>>359397636
>return to form
Yes, an open world ARPG boy band road trip is a return to form. Just like uh, Final Fantasy... which one was it, right on the tip of my tongue. Oh yeah, none of them.
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>>359398218
Nomura will be removed from the ff7 remake half way through to work on KH4
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>MGSV and FFXV
>the last rays of hope of videogames
>destroyed by corporate buisnessmen

why are we here?
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>>359397402
Omen was wannabe Hollywood-tier deep. Fuck off.
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>>359398218
Thats what happened when BBS came out and the combat turned out to be lackluster, fukingosakateam
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>>359398242
That is literally what they call it.

They probably mean a return to ff13 form after ff13-2-3 kek

Their first FF was FF13
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>>359397636
What the fuck are you talking about? Nips are hating it and even on the official forums people are complaining.
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>>359398218
You have a hate boner for Nomura your opinion doesn't count.
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Nomura was always a hack who did samefag overdesigned characters all his live, why are you protecting him again?
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>>359398397
meta critic user reviews are LITERALLY positive. if you guys hate it so much why aren't you 0bombing the game on MC?
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>>359398397

Japs are even more critical than /v/. Take what they say with a grain of salt.
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>>359398535
KHfags are leaking from gamefaqs
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>Nips hate XV so much they are spreading this shit even here

kek

Final Flop XV
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>>359398551
>meta critic user reviews are LITERALLY positive
I hate to be that guy but they spam 0 and 10 like a real retard there, anon.
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Here is a metacritic user review of FF15:
FINAL FANTASY XV is a game that has everything to make you happy. It has a open world, but also, has many linear moments due to story, and the story is VERY good at all. Escaping the flames of war, Noctis epic journey with his best friends is very real and deep. The battle system is so good and the game has the best dungeons in all FF series. I loved Princess Luna, she is so cute and strong.
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>>359398553
Okay, I'll throw away all my standards and experience I've built up over 25 years and listen to some dumb fuck kid who thinks holding O is good combat and deaths off screen is good storytellign.
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>>359398553
They loved XIII yet they hate XV, XV is just that fucking bad.
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>>359398645
Seems like the average weeb review
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>>359398630
Anon, PLENTY of games are in the red there because more people spam 0 than spam 10. Yet FF15, the 10ers won. Where were you when you lost the war to prove FF15 was shit? Why didn't you make 900 MC accounts?
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>>359398535
Welcome to nu/v/.

/v/ trashed nomura constantly back in the day, but eventually the dumb kids who grew up playing KH found 4chan.
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BUT GUYS

THE LAST GUARDIAN THO
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>>359398551
see
>>359398645

Their "positive" reviews count for shit.
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>>359398706
Anon, FF is not a weeb game. This is a weeb game. It has to have anime characters ingame to be weeb. FF15 is for normals, which is why it can ship 5m copies while weeb games rarely ever break 1m
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>>359398680
>loved XIII
wwwwwwwwww
You werent here for the early reports where nips were shitting on it for being a straight hallway.
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>>359398397
I mean... they do have shit taste
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DAILY REMINDER TO SIGN THE VERSUS XV PETITION
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>>359398112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUW4nBmI3rk

It is a Japanese live broadcast aired on the day before the release date of FF 15.
A voice actor will appear as a guest from 2 hours 25 minutes past the start of the broadcast.
Suzuki role of Noctis is speaking.
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>>359398856
Yet Lightning was still voted best girl in their poll beating out Aeris and Yuna.
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>>359398716
People never brag about user score for a reason and that reason is they act like a retard there 0 and 10 should not be rate spam like that, and this game is solid 7 at best, it is a decent game but not a fucking damn terrible like a hater trying to make it nor a great game like a fanboy said.
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>>359398821
Look at the 4 main protags of XV.
Canr be more weeb than that
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So with all said and done, was Tabata's waifu Luna worse than Toriyama's waifu?
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>>359398763
They count because they spam them more than antis can spam 0s. Antis can spam 0s all day on other games which are far better than this one. Yet no one is doing it for FF15? The user score is at fucking 8.0. Do you know where the user score is for cawwadoodie IW? Or Destiny: Rise of Iron?
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>>359398913
You can like a character and still think the game they're from is shit, you know. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>359398889
>Tatsu confirming the changes

It was obvious anyway, but this is pretty funny. Tabata made XV into a kusoge.
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>>359398969
>post-op cloud
I mean it was progressive of them, but I thought the modeling gigs were a bit much.
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>>359398940
Yes, anything with googly anime eyes is more weeb than four semi-realistic fuccbois. Next you'll tell me Lightning is weeb.
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>>359398969

It's sad
The whole sittuation of modern media is depressing
It's like everyone talented just died out, not only games, movies too
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>>359398913
Not mutual exclusive or are you implying by the same logic that XIII is better than X and VII
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>>359398870
PETITION LINK https://www.change.org/p/square-enix-let-tetsuya-nomura-direct-final-fantasy-versus-xv
>PETITION LINK https://www.change.org/p/square-enix-let-tetsuya-nomura-direct-final-fantasy-versus-xv
PETITION LINK https://www.change.org/p/square-enix-let-tetsuya-nomura-direct-final-fantasy-versus-xv
>PETITION LINK https://www.change.org/p/square-enix-let-tetsuya-nomura-direct-final-fantasy-versus-xv
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You guys make this sound like a bad thing.

Versus XIII Noct looked like a boring, brooding, Advent Children Cloud-tier mopey faggot.

XV would have been a MUCH better game if they completely abandoned all of Nomura's concepts and started fresh, focusing entirely on the Lad's Holiday roadtrip.
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>>359399012
Nips don't operate that way, they do what OP is doing and try to sabotage what they hate.
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>>359399105
You really think they'll approve that?
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>>359399067
>pink haired dressed in impratical clothing
Anime
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>>359398913
>beating out Aeris and Yuna.
Wait, Aeris and Yuna were 2nd and 3rd place? Not Tifa?
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>>359399132
>XV would have been a MUCH better game if they completely abandoned all of Nomura's concepts and started fresh, focusing entirely on the Lad's Holiday roadtrip.
You say that but the ending feels pretty much like Tabata's work, knowing his previous games.
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>>359399174
Anime to normals is determined by one thing: eye size

Source: I am half-normal
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>>359399201
>Not Tifa?
Japanese are lactose intolerant.
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>>359399132
Tabata has never made a good game and never will and Nomura's Noct was nothing like Cloud or Squall. This was stated pretty early on. Inform yourself if you're going to try and shitpost
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>>359399201
People don't actually like Tifa as a character you know, just as fap material.
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>>359399132
"no"
At least Nomura had a clear vision for what he wanted HIS game to be.
Tabata kept re-writing shit to appease focus groups, which is literally the stupidest way to direct a game I have ever seen in my entire god damn life. I don't get it, because Crisis Core was good.
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>>359399105
This is how pathetic Versus fanboys are. They want to wait another 10 years for this piece of shit.

Kill yourselves. The hallways and jumpscares are "Versus", the parts Nomura made.
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>>359399105
Autism
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>>359399247
>I don't get it, because Crisis Core was good.
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>>359399132
>XV would have been a MUCH better game if they completely abandoned all of Nomura's concepts and started fresh, focusing entirely on the Lad's Holiday roadtrip.
That's because they want to ride v13 hype, Tabata can make a good game if he has a chance to start fresh. If anything, I think SE ruined both Tabat and Nomura reputation for this cash grab of a game.
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>>359399258
Tabata already confirmed he cut everything besides trying to keep shit we saw in Versus trailers. Go fuck yourself.
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>>359398680
>every japanese person has the exact same opinions
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>>359396012
>>359395821
>>359395748
>tfw you get the autists of /v/ to shill for your corporation by lying to them
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>>359399242
>being this obsessed over a shit game that doesn't even exist

I've seen some losers on /v/ before but holy shit buddy
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>>359398969
I'd say yes. She was being shown as such an important character, being touted as a "strong" FF female. Yet she gets murdered as soon as she appears.

Also, at least Lightning is attractive. Luna looks good in concept art and promotional artwork, but she looks like shit in game.
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>>359399346
Great post, XV is still shit and Versus looked good.
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>>359399247
>Crisis Core was good.
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Standards are so low now that Nomura is seen as something good for square.
I think its time to close shop for good.
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>>359396012
I fucking knew it nomura got robbed

thats why FF15 looks like such a shitfest

i bet they were going to do a traditional FF and they turned it into an action game halfway through
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>>359399258
>The hallways and jumpscares are "Versus", the parts Nomura made.
Oh , XV-kun still around?
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>>359399405
>XV is still shit
Yup.
>and Versus looked good.
Nope.

Look at yourself, you are obsessed with a tech demo piece of shit. Move on with your worthless life, 10 years you've been crying for a shit game starring Sasuke from Naruto.
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>>359399165
They approved XV staying a thing out of consumer desire, but fucked it up by removing what made us want it in the first place (*cough*NOMURA*cough)
So, hypothetically, if they hear enough of us wanting Versus XV, it M I G H T happen. Especially since a lot of assets are made now, and the team now had more experience with the Luminous engine.
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>>359399105
Signing this. I don't expect it to actually get remade, but fuck Tabata and his shit game.
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>>359399448
>I believe everything I read on /v/, especially when there is no source.
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>>359399405
>Versus looked good
>literally nothing but pre rendered CGI trailers that had no actual development for SIX (6) FUCKING YEARS
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Why the fuck does anyone care about this game, seriously?

It's just generic anime stand in #3436. Literally none of them have a personality.

You could get the same effect by drawing a smiley face on a balloon and it'd have more fucking emotional depth.
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>>359399492
Versus looked good, the only piece of shit is you. Why are you even in this thread? You don't like XV or Versus, so you're posts are irrelevant to the OP.
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>>359399496
>So, hypothetically, if they hear enough of us wanting Versus XV, it M I G H T happen
Stop it, Nips coporate never listen to anyone but themselves, they will NEVER give you what you want.
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>>359399482
>muh XVkun boogeyman
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>>359396012
>Tabata asked Matsuda "let me do the director of FF 15"
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>>359399604
Your uninformed hateboner is what's embarrassing.
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>>359399604
You do know that a lot of the team was pulled to help with XIII and save XIV, right?
Nomura's directing and cinematography are things this game sorely needed.
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Why do people here think that Versus was going to be some 10/10 game based on a few trailers?

Don't get me wrong, XV is shit and Tabata proved once again that he's a giant hack. But Nomura isn't really much better in that department.
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This just adds to the theory that Kingdom Hearts 3 is the true Final Fantasy Versus, hence Nomura's sudden introduction and focus on a new heroine despite Kairi existing for literally over a decade
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>>359399701
Just the kind of thing XVkun would say to throw everyone off their trail. I'm onto you.
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>>359399656
>Versus looked good,
No, it didn't. The first trailer was cringe inducing, fucking emo fuccboi literally "nothing personal kid" teleport stabbing people.

This is the sort of cringe inducing shit dumb kids who use gamertags like xxX_ShadowSephiroth_Xxx think is cool. You are embarrassing.
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>>359399704
Yeah, that particular line made me lose my shit. It's fucking sad and pathetic but hilarious at the same time.
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>>359396783
I'm sure the changes have nothing to do with the fact their trilogy of games got turned into a single game, nothing at all.

>>359398190
the whole shitshow that was the development of FF13 has caused this, square is only just now recovering from that.
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>>359395748
>Itamuro wrote the script of FF 15. Itamuro is a female, an inexperienced writer.

>get female to write for four male characters
>surprised when they all sound like homos
>badly written homos at that
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>>359399701
Because the only one that kept spam it is you, sir.
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Did anyone else feel this game was way too easy, if not the easiest FF in the series? Even the superbosses pose absolutely no threat as there is never any risk of game overing, in fact I game overed more to my flying car than to actual combat.
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>>359399804
"emo fuccboi" isn't a legitimate complaint sorry. Go shitpost somewhere else.
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>>359399786
She was already a background character in 2.
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>>359399906
not an argument
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>>359399754
>Why do people here think that Versus was going to be some 10/10 game based on a few trailers?
Dunno, Fanboyism?
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>>359398654

>HURR DURR I'M SUCH A MATURE, EXPERIENCED GAAAMURRR

Fuck off with that projection, nigger. I didn't say a single thing about the game. The point was that the Japs were more critical than western FF audiences, not that the game was great.

And it's true. XV is averaging 2.5-3 stars on amazonjp and other aggregate review sites but 4+ in western ones. Learn to read before you spurg next time, kid.
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>>359399741
Don't respond, he's fishing for replies and doesn't have a legitimate complain in the first place.
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>>359399741
Who gives a fuck about cutscenes

Tabata's XV is an actual ambitious and unique game even if it falls short in a lot of areas

Nomura's Versus would have been generic edgy mopey JRPG if it even got off the ground (which it didn't)
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Versus 13 should have just been shelved until a later date, Tabata should have just made a new cast & story for 15

A focused 15 on a roadtrip with the lads would have been GOAT, but Tabata still trying to stick to some of the Versus 13 elements makes it lack focus
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>>359399906
It was a legitimate complain when FF8 came out, and it's a legitimate complaint now, inb4 "whatever."
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>>359399786
>donald duck and gooby as allies
>go undersea to sing songs with the little mermaid

This is the literal definition of childhood autism. When will you faggots learn?
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>>359399929
Whatever you say, XV-kun.
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>>359399827
>the whole shitshow that was the development of FF13 has caused this
I think you forgot a cluster fuck that is FF14 1.0 along with 13 shit show, it almost got SE out of the business.
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>>359400028
Kingdom Hearts / Nomura fans are literally Sonic fan tier autistic freaks.
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>>359398680

>They loved XIII

Bullshit. You clearly weren't around when they were streaming the game.
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>>359399786
Aqua has always been in Nomura's mind since COM

You underestimate his autism
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>>359399985
>Tabata's XV is an actual ambitious and unique game

XV-kun is back everyone! and he's angry as usual!
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>>359399985
>Tabata's XV is an actual ambitious and unique game even if it falls short in a lot of areas
Thw hole game falls short though not just some area

>Nomura's Versus would have been generic edgy mopey JRPG if it even got off the ground (which it didn't)
Agreed.
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>>359400120
antikun, go back to bed
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>>359400024
It's legitimate for Squall because of his fucking personality the whole game. Noct was specifically not going to be like Cloud or Squall and you're complaining about his appearance. Which makes your complaint irrelevant.
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>>359399448
> muh traditional JRPG saves all!

Grow up. No one who isn't stuck in the 90's would consider going back to that aged mechanic an improvement. It was a product of tech limitations, not intentional design. And it's a shit one, only a handful of turn based games were good thanks to thier combat,most were good DESPITE IT.

Versus was planned to be action from the beginning, early footage of it showed the very same combat style XV boasts with some changes.
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>people saying the leviathan scene was emotional because muh luna

Tellah casting Meteor was emotional, this is just fucking hamfisted shit with a pointless character.
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>>359400204
Take your meds XV-kun.
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Versus should have been cancelled before 2010.
FFXV shouldn't even exist.

This terrible project is a joke and Versus was just Nomura self inserting the weird autistic fuck.
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>XV-kun back with a vengeance because now that XV is revealed to be shit all he has left is trying to shit on Versus
Sad.
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>>359400285
THIS.
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>>359400106
He just thinks of socool scenes then tries to write the story later.
Thats the KHII preview skycraper fight is so awkardly done underwhelming in the actual game.
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>>359400240
>It was a product of tech limitations, not intentional design.
Sup underage. Guess what kiddo? Real time action games have been around just as long as turn based games. You are a fucking idiot.
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>>359399559
It fits and i can see by the videos of the game that it was clearly not intended to be what it ended up

Nomura was making a FF game and then tabata sold out and made what it ended up tabata made the pieces of trash that are FFXIII series which are nothing but pandering

and there are also those webms with the changes scenes the old ones looked more old styles oriented while the new ones modern gaming incarnate while in that king scene where the guards threw the swords to protect the king and got changed into the king drawing the sword to protect the soldiers

you can tell the game got completely remade to appeal to mroe people at least on paper
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>>359396609
> IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY THEY FORCED HIM

OK.
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>>359400382
again, a source is needed
not a fan fiction bs
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>>359400421
He literally says it wasn't his decision to leave the project, but okay keep shitposting XV-kun you have nothing to lose at this point XV is already confirmed shit.
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>>359395748
NEVER EVER SO GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!!!
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>>359400421
Not that guy but that's actually a thing, I mean that kind of situation. Dunno about Nomura though.
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>>359398680
Opinion invalid, nips had the exact same reaction to xiii as the west
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>>359400421
see >>359398218

Nomuracucks just blame everyone else for his failures, and then they go a step further and claim Nomura was the main creative force behind actually good games like FF7, then ignore how he was actually more involved in FF8 and surprise, it sucked.
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>>359400452
The source is actually being informed about Versus and knowing that none of what was in the trailers is the same or even in XV at all. Also, Tabata already confirmed it's a different game.

Fanfiction is what you post every thread XV-kun.
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>>359399132
I can't tell if this is sarcasm
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>>359397797
And both were good. Zodiac edition was even great.
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>>359400382
Wait, Tabata made 13? Then why did /v/ blame Toriyama all this time? You fuckers need to get your story straight so I can be mad at the right person.
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>>359400608
give the source
im not telling you what is the truth faggot
i want a source
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>>359400616
It's XV-kun so it's worse because he's actually serious.
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When you see the XV combat scenes in the 2013 trailer they all run like absolute crap IN THE TRAILER.
More reason to just shelf that pos and just forget it ever happened.
Nomura just stick with writing disney fanfic because everytime he tried to do something FF related it turned out to be a disaster.
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>>359395821

More info on Versus delay

http://www.gamesradar.com/how-final-fantasy-15-almost-destroyed-itself-help-ff13/
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>>359400550
KH fans actually complaint Nomura for BbS and not Osaka team though, the one that keep shift the blame to others is XV-kun when Nomura was still the head director.
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>Wada gives FF13 to Toriyama, the guy behind the most popular FF game in Japan, 10
>Nomura cries and stomps his feet all the way back to his play pen.
>Wada gives in and says "okay, you can make your own FF13 then"
>Nomura then shits his pants with glee
>makes nothing but CGI trailers for 6 years
>Wada doesn't even work there any more
>New guy says "you've fucking nothing but waste money for 6 years, that's it, you are off this project and this other fag can finish it because we need to make something off this shit"
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Tabata has a habit of lying.
He lied a lot on live broadcasts.

The map is 20 times larger than "Episode Dascae".
The story is orthodox.
The linear part is very slight in the last stage.
It takes at least 40 hours to clear.
Respecting the script written by Nojima.
You can understand the story of the game without watching a movie.
A fellow character AI is excellent.
Seven summoned beasts will appear.
(Indeed seven have appeared, but no one expected that half of them could not be called freely.

It was all a lie.
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>>359400638
12 and 13 is shit, it's a literally a game play itself the game. 12 Zodiac edition is decent, I'll give you that.
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>>359400698
I love how you autists have created some boogeyman to shut down all dissenting opinions because Final Fantasy XV wasn't the game you built up in your head for 10 years.

I don't even know who the fuck XV-kun is or what that means
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>>359398969
Luna at least had the decency to fucking die.
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The only complaints I have are chapters 9 to 12. Bu those 4 chapters were so short each that it felt like just 1 or 2 chapters of content.
The pace went back to normal at chapter 13 (a little too long to be honest) with a curve ball.
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>>359400893
>created some boogeyman

XV-kun you're not even trying this is pathetic even for you. XV turning out shit really affected you this much huh?
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>>359400507
Source it up.

Or don't. All you can do anyways is point fingers everywhere and call anything u don't like XV-kun

Like I give a shit about XV vs Versus. Keep sucking Nomura's ochinchin
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>>359398218
BBS is one of the most loved games in the franchise though. There's skepticism about Osaka working on a console Kingdom Hearts game, but this idea that BBS was poorly recieved is just revisionist history.

Plus teams don't really matter. Tokyo Team was behind FFXV
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>>359400738
Wat, thats the first tine i see that argument because whenever theres talk about how BBS combat ended up trash and unbalanced the blame would shift to Osaka and how inexperienced they were.
Its almost like you are making scenarios up to justify this autismal back and forth
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>>359400783
The map does seem 20 times larger then Duscae

E:D was just the area around that one lake, the gas station and towards the chocobo place and Ramuh. Its extremely small.
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>>359401073
see
>>359401040
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>>359400050
Eh, 14 was a different branch so while financially impactful, it wasn't really part of the whole shitshow of where the mainline FF devs are spending their time.

I mean we've just not gotten out of the fabula crystalis project, which was always supposed to last about this long to be fair, just more of it.

In any case, now we're passed that, we can start to see what the FF 16 looks like. That should be the real teller for how much of their shit they have gotten together. (and I do like XV and think it is a good indicator that they do have their shit in order now, after a period of chaos)
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>>359399242
Versus 13 didn't exist, get over it. Nomura is a hack and ruined the franchise, get over it. Type 0 was kind of fun and much better than xiii, get over it. XV will be remembered almost fondly and not reviled like you hope, get over it.
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>>359401040
Speaking of which, how hard has XV-kun been trying to defend Luna? Or has he given up on that part?
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>>359400250
>Tellah casting Meteor was emotional

Because that had a backstory and buildup since the first time you meet him. XV just throws the "plot" around and expects you to care for these shallow characters. The ending wasn't impactful at all, and I just felt like I accomplished fucking nothing.

FF4 is a fucking masterpiece compared to this pile of shit. I grew attached to all the characters except for Rosa because she honestly didn't do much. And the ending was actually satisfying. The After Years was uanessacry, but it didn't really majorly fuck up anything plot wise and had a satisfying ending too.
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>>359401040
>claim something
>no source
>attacks people asking for a source instead
Have you considered running for a political position? You'd be pretty good at it.
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>>359398318
It's uncanny how similar the two are two each other, literally the same dev cycle.

> project called on and off multiple times and changed (MGSV was originally Peace Walker, XV was Versus)
> both wasted lots of time and money on developing a specialized engine for no reason (Fox Engine, Luminous)
> both got the dirrctors booted out and replaced by incompetents at the last minute ( Nomura to Tabata, Kojima to whoever wrapped the game up).
> Game ended up being delayed multiple times, changes direction mid-way
> both release demos with wildly different visions than final product (Ground Zeroes, Duscae)
> both had huge amounts of trailers that basically revealed the whole story and had cut content.
> both end up being sparse in story, featuring giant empty open worlds, and terrible characterization that requires external supplemental material to understand.
> both still get infinite praise by "journalists".

They are kyodai in development. Time will tell if FF ends up a pachinko franchise.
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>>359401265
There's nothing about Luna to defend

Stella benefits from not existing, but even then Tabata fucked himself by saying Luna wasn't a damsel, and then had Luna be a DEAD damsel
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>>359401076
Its not revisionist what the fuck are you talking about.
Complaints about the game being thunder surge to win and the story hinging on everyone being an idiot to make sense go far back.
It only became more evident when people went into autistical detai on the mechanics for speedruns.
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>>359396012
>I am helpless.
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>>359401150
So no source? How cute.
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>>359400285
this. I like how ppl think versus would have been a good game when we only saw CGI + shitty gameplay.
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>>359395748
>I read the script of Versus 13 many times
So the full plot is out there. I hope they release a book or something with it

Also XV-kun BTFO
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>>359401253
The PS3 version was pretty far along, only issue was performance in open world

They fucked up when they scrapped it all for PS4
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>>359397636
>return to form
>action jrpg

Stop being retarded. If anything bravely series is the return to form for FF
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>>359401504
The game's beloved. Consistently ranks as one of if not the best. Aqua and Terra are always in the top five, at times Aqua makes it to the top three, two, and in the KHwiki poll the top character period.

I like KH2FM, so I'm not getting baited into making this BBS vs KH2FM. But the game was a critical and financial success.
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>>359401275
I wrote this on Monday.

Looking back on Final Fantasy, I only liked the story in FFT probably because the plot focused so heavily on one person.

While I liked a few other games, I felt like those stories were kinda weak because throughout the entire story you just didn't get enough of a connection between the characters. I think if FFVII involved Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, and Barret in every major plot moment it would have been a much better game. Or if FFVI always involved Terra and Celes. Or looking outside the series how in The Witcher series it's about Geralt with Triss, Roche/Ivoreth, Yen and Ciri. Or how Otacon loves Snake or how Ocelot and Miller love Big Boss. You actually feel the emotional connection between those people and the main character.

I think on a basic level every Square story falls short of brilliance because they've all mostly lacked a cohesion within the main members of the story.

I think what has to happen in FFXV more than anything is an immense feeling of family within the party. The story cannot be only about Noctis, his entire party needs to have very good reason to be heavily invested in his goals the way Tifa and Aeris were involved in Cloud's life.

And I don't think we're going to get that.

I don't know why we expected otherwise. Final Fantasy "parties" haven't had emotional connection development between members for a very long time.
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>>359401720
I want to believe but there was articles saying it was hardly THAT deep into development so I doubt it
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>please source all these claims
>xv kun this xv kun that for 200+ posts
Fucking hell.
I'd have better success conversing with people suffering from actual mental retardation.
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>>359398735
Nomura being a hack doesnt excuse Tabata being another hack.

Also while KH series is utter crap, and I repeat this, UTTER FUCKING CRAP, Nomura also did TWEWY. A decent game. Thats more than what Hackbata could ever say. Type zero a shit too.
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>>359401861
>But the game was a critical and financial success
yes
>Consistently ranks as one of if not the best
not true at all, thats stupid and i dont want to believe it
> Aqua and Terra are always in the top five
Fuck Terra
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>>359401659
>So the full plot is out there
I think Tabata and Nojima point that out more than once.
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>>359398821
No actually this is a weeb game. The game in your image is just a Japanese game.
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No matter what you fucks would be disappointed. Every since VII was released in the mid 90s every subsequent FF has been controversial and a "disappointment".
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>>359400382
>it fits my worldview therefore it doesn't need supportive evidence
This comic has never been more applicable. You are the antithesis to critical thinking.
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>>359400783
Is he the new Sean Murray
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>>359402319
IX was alright.
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>>359400851
>12 Zodiac edition is decent, I'll give you that.
All the problems with 12 were in the story
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>>359398218
I think he can lead a good project but it's clear they are stretching him too thin and overworking him at the moment by juggling his input between projects.
Games he works on will all end up in development hell this way, and then they have to send guys like Tabata in to string it all up and get it finished at some point, (on a much smaller extended budget most likely).

But here's the thing, like changing a director in a movie production, it's all going to be retooled in the new image, overwriting the original stuff. It's hard for one creative mind to envision someone elses creative mind without a ton of study behind that person.

Squareenix have got to be careful pulling shit like this over and over. They could ruin the FF brand entirely if games keep coming out half-baked.
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FFXV has more shameless fujoshi pandering than most Compile Heart games have male otaku pandering

The scenes when you rescue Prompto and when he does his big 'reveal' were gayer than on-screen gay anal sex

I'm all for freedom of choice, though. If FF wants to be a fujo series from now on, it's their right. Oh well.
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>>359401842
THAT IS FUCKING WHAT THEY SAY.
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>>359396382
>cherry-picking comparisons in favor of Versus

You guys are sad
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>>359402445
>12 Zodiac edition is decent,
The addition of fast forward isn't enough to justify the omittion of fun builds, you can no longer make gun wielding time magicians for example, wheres the fun in that.
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>all this damage control
Let's just accept that Square-Enix is not what it used to be.
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Okay I actually visited the Official XV Forums because I got curious about what people are discussing there and it was a shit fest as expected. But what is the SE mod actually doing there? He's quoting everyone's complaints in threads without giving replies. Is he actually letting the XV team know about the complaints in the forums?
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>>359401861
>Aqua and Terra are always in the top five
>Terra
Isn't Terra the most hated character in the franchise?
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>>359402683
I have faith in Nomura
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>>359402730
or rather, compiling
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>>359402774
Terra's hilarious

Plus Lingering Will
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>>359402517
Then you already know its a retarded opinion that shouldnt be paid attention
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>>359402774
Just because he's a giant moron doesn't mean he's unpopular.
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>>359401076
>BBS is one of the most loved games in the franchise though.

What alternate time-line are you from?

>XV scoring 0.3 below BBS from different reviewers somehow means something
>taking IGN's score as the bible

Kill yourself.
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>>359402982
Like clockwork, holy shit.
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>>359402883
To be fair, that's what Riku did.

>>359402958
Maybe it's just because every time I see Terra mentioned it's talking about how he's the worst, stupidest and most unintentionally evil character in the franchise. Granted most of those are Aqua fans.
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>>359401861
>The game's beloved.
It really isn't.
>Consistently ranks as one of if not the best
>Birth By Sleep
>The best out of FM, IIFM, Re: Coded, DDD
No, just stop.
>Aqua is always in the top five
FTFY
>But the game was a critical and financial success
I bet you're the same faggot who posted this >>359401076
Let me remind you that Gamespot scored BBS lower than FFXV, since you want to cherry pick.
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>>359402813
Not Matsuno or Nakahara like a decent human being would think.
Has to be mr beltsnzipper.
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>>359403218
Bit of a chip on your shoulder there, champ.
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>>359403286
I can get you several polls which have BBS in top three favorite KH games.

Want me to post them?
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>>359403060
>can't refute, so I'll shit post instead
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>>359403425
Go ahead. Don't know why you feel the need to ask.
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>>359403425
If they are from forums even better, i want to read their justification for being a moron.
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>>359395748
>>359395821
>>359396012
[citation needed]
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>>359403570
something something xvkun exclamation mark
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>>359395748
>Itamuro is a female,
Why does this matter?
>inb4 hurr durr I didn't mean it that way fookin sjw
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>>359403345
Is this a Jojo reference?
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>>359403530
Famitsu Poll for favorite KH game. Third most popular game.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/997779-kingdom-hearts-3d-dream-drop-distance/59746840

Dengeki "Top Games of 2010" - Top Ten(chosen by fans)

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/339/339506/

Top PSP games -

http://www.gamesradar.com/best-psp-games/
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>>359403286
No, Terra's in the top five too. Check the Famitsu poll.
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Fuck Tabata. What an utter idiot and corporate tool.

And fuck XV-kun the giant Tabata tool.
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>>359398750
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>>359404045
Fuck off Kagari
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>>359403947
>Famitsu

Don't they hand out 40/40 to every game? They gave one to XV, Naruto, XIII, etc.
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>>359403431
Saved.

Hopefully 0.2 gives more pics to add to that
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>>359404135
Fuck off XV-kun. Kagari is a fat whore I don't care about her. And you're a massive autistic sperg who spent years shilling for a game that is the shittiest JRPG of the year.
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>>359404178
It's a fan poll man, Kingdom Hearts fans mail in their choice. It's just being hosted by Famitsu

I deliberately didn't include Famitsu calling Birth By Sleep "perhaps the best game in the franchise" because I think Famitsu is full of shit.
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>>359396012
>I am a Japanese. I use Google Translate.
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>>359404135
HI XV-KUN
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>>359403859
>http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/997779-kingdom-hearts-3d-dream-drop-distance/59746840
BBS ranks in at fourth. It should technically be ranked third. More people have played BBS than KH1 and KH2FM, yet BBS still ranks lower. Terra being on that list is retarded.
>http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/339/339506/
>http://www.gamesradar.com/best-psp-games/
These are all specific to portable games, anon.
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This thread is what happens when you do too many weebshit,
Kids please stay away from weeb.
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>>359404614
FFXV isn't even weeaboo.
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it's ok guys. persona 5 comes out next year. then we'll have a good jrpg.
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>>359403859
I'd still rank XV's combat above BBS but below KH2(FM). XV still has some inspiration from BBS in it's combat, but at least it fixes some issues BBS had.
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>>359402813
HARNESS THE BURNING ANGER
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>>359403859
are you even trying?
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>>359404253
I know this you Kagari you can't hide your true self from me.

You aren't welcome here Kagari, so get out before I have to punish you for your TRANSGRESSIONS.
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Was magic this shit in type-0 and Crisis Core?
I still don't get the limited flask application, nor grenades. They did magic fine with the Ring ones of Ultima, Holy and Death, yet Fire, Thunder and Blizzard are gimmicky?
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Is XV-kun and the KH2FM autist the same guy?

They both focus on Tokyo Team, and autistically lash out at those who disagree with them
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>>359404924
>you aren't welcome here
Says the man who has made himself so despised everyone and their mother knows about him. Your shilling failed. It took Conan just 10 minutes to destroy something you had worked three years + for. Isn't that sad?
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>>359403859
Out of all the characters at that time
>Riku
>Xehanort
>Xion
>Marluxia
>DiZ
>Ansem
>Kairi
>Namine
Terra ranks above them. Fucking fujos.
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>>359405043
Just call him Tokyo Team-kun. He's defined by his hatred of Birth By Sleep more than his love of KH2FM
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>>359405084
>butcher everything Nomura made so you can appeal to western dudebros
>western dudebros actively go out of their way to shit on boy band GTA
Isn't that funny? I think it's funny.
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>>359399786

what are the chances that the versus version of noctis and crew show up in KH3, if that happens it pretty much confirms all those rumors and shit about the internal struggles. It would pretty much be an indirect middle finger to tabata's XV if he refuses to put XV noctis in there.
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>>359404758
>Persona
>good
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>>359404796
Well XV's combat has a shit combo string, enemies barely show any signs of being staggered and certain magical spells completely break the game.
Sounds like Birth by Sleep to me, well besides dodging working from the get go in XV.
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>>359405197
In comparison to recent FF games, yes it is.
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>>359405171
It's depressing.
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>>359405043
>implying there's only one KH2FM autist
>still talking about XV-kun
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>>359397117
Here's what actually happened. They decided to slap him on Kingdom hearts and put Tabata on vXIII/XV just to double the hype/money train, so Nomura's been stuck with KH3, the remixes (which included them having to completely redo Kingdom Hearts since they lost everything they had on it), and now he's got VIIR which will probably be taken away from him
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>>359399827
>I'm sure the changes have nothing to do with the fact their trilogy of games got turned into a single game, nothing at all.
It was never gonna be a triology.
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>>359405176
I WANT A VERSUS WORLD IN KINGDOM HEARTS III PLEASE NOMURA DEAR GOD MAKE THIS HAPPEN

WITH THE MAFIA KING, STELLA AND EVERYTHING

AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>359405242
You could say in comparision to recent square games and still be correct.
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I want this type of Final Fantasy back. FFXV doesn't even look fantasy. Especially not with that fucking retarded main party design screaming of fujoshit.
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The actor of FF 15 said that "Noctis of Versus and Noctis of FF are 15 different people."
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>>359405474
We'll never get something akin to classic FF settings again.
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>>359405239
>Well XV's combat has a shit combo string
This is one of the few times I will say this un-ironically: git gud
>enemies barely show any signs of being staggered
Smaller enemies do get staggered as if they were Shadows. It's the enemies that are the same height as you or taller that take a few hits to stagger and that makes sense. Otherwise we'd have things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40LGgNB0pbs
>certain magical spells completely break the game
At least there's some draw-backs to them. I still don't like the magic system though.
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>>359405474
left looks like schierke
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>>359405612
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40LGgNB0pbs

Every time.
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>>359401076
Birth By Sleep was the best game in the series imo
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>>359405612
>Aqua x Ansem SoD
Shouldn't it be Xemnas?

Shit, do you think she'll meet Ansem SoD in BBS 0.2?

Ansem SoD came from the RoD, right?
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>>359405579
You say that as if SE won't go screaming to Yoshida and Ito after FFXV. Tabata had his shot to "modernize" FF and blew it. Now is the time for old-school blood.
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>>359405474
At most you'll see small low budget slipping from the cracks like bravely default or World of FF.
Unless by some miracle they save matsuno from mobile hell.
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lol why are people suddenly saying that Versus looked like shit? we don´t if that would have been good but why the sudden change? atleast that game looked that it had it´s own personality:

- Yakuza theme
- Antagonist girl with same powers
- Hamlet
- Better writter

Come on, it was gonna be episodic, Tabata just cut all he could and asked the idiot writer of Dissidia 012 to write some shit fast, also they even patched the game to add cutscenes from a fucking movie.

FFXV narrative is trash, Nomura should just reboot it when he can, it´s not fair that we never went to see the original work because they were fixing the fucking MMO.
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>>359405242
>garbage tastes good if you compare it to eating shit
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>>359405702
It did take some thought to figure this out. For some reason he just doesn't retaliate. The endless combo finisher doesn't trigger it so you can keep staggering him and this works for nearly every humanoid boss.

If XV had it so nearly every enemy/boss could be staggered by nearly every hit, you could loop most of them by just doing a combo, finishing it, switching to another weapon, pressing O to do it's finisher, and repeat.
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>>359405904
>Yakuza theme

yakuza and mafia isn't really the same
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>>359405781
>Shouldn't it be Xemnas?
No, Man Sex is in love with her armor.
>Shit, do you think she'll meet Ansem SoD in BBS 0.2?
At some point, seeing as how it spans 1 years, I think it may happen.
>Ansem SoD came from the RoD, right?
Not really. He's quite literally Terra's Heartless.
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>>359405904
>implying it wasn't literally just "oh, okay we don't get to do our big trilogy because everything went to shit, lets salvage what we can and put it out"
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>>359405612
>At least there's some draw-backs to them. I still don't like the magic system though.
Wait what's the drawback of spamming surge spells in BBS? or are you talking about XV's aoes.
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>>359405474
>muh Tolkien
>muh Medieval fantasy
go back to Skyrim you cuck
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>>359405904
I just never want to see it ever again whether it's FFXV-2, DLC or V13, I mean the concept and game play is fucking suck so just let it die and let us move on to XVI.

Btw, I wish Toriyama, Tabata and Nomura will not touch mainline FF ever again, Nomura can be monster designer but don't let the man mess with the concept or the story.
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>>359405176
>what are the chances that the versus version of noctis and crew show up in KH3
Actually...maybe not in KH3 but in the future they could show up, the different personality for Noctics, closer to his Versus version could be explained in the same way why Squal; or Cloud are different
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OP is wrong, tabata asked nomura to co-direct FFXV with him. Nomura was pulled from the project shortly after E3 and tabata became the main director, tabata wasnt sure if he should follow nomura's vision or make his own game with his vision and that when sakaguchi told him to make his own game and not versus 13
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>>359406453
>make his own game with his vision and that when sakaguchi told him to make his own game and not versus 13
So, XV is his own game? Welp, the man is fucking hack.
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>>359406453
>OP is wrong
>I am right, your trusty XV-kun
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>>359399165
It's more to send the message to Square Enix how dissatisfied fans are.
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>>359406197
I'm talking about the latter.

There's a cooldown on when you can use magic, so you can't open the menu and swap out your Fire for Thunder because the cool down will still be there.

There's also the AOE.
Before the Day One patch, you could get caught in it alongside your party if you were too close. Now, Noctis teleports away like in the Omen trailer, so you won't get hurt for doing it up close.
However, the AOE still applies to party members, so it's still easy to nuke them alongside the enemy if you don't use Regroup.
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>>359406453
>sakaguchi told him to make his own game and not versus 13

Doing what a guy who ran away from the Company and blamed FF after that says lmao
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>>359406453
>shortly after E3
Year after
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>>359397264
Why does the Luminous engine engine run like shit. They should've asked for the fox engine.
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>>359406605
>no im the right you are the wrong
>NO I AM THE RIGHT
This is how retarded this thread sounds, and no one will probably know what happened unless they quit the company in the future and get drunk enough to spill the beans.
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Anyway tabata and his psp team sucked, i cant believe SE let a PSP team handle the development of a main FF let alone tabata forcing his team to make an open world region.
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>>359395748
>Itamuro wrote the script of FF 15. Itamuro is a female, an inexperienced writer
>female writer
It shows
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I'm curious how L'cie were going to be

It's suppose to be connected to the FF13 universe somehow so they would have used them for something
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>>359406974
This. Tabata had no vision of a big mainline FF title. He just threw in there what the underage fans wanted.
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>>359405176
>what are the chances that the versus version of noctis and crew show up in KH3
I think he will just ignore that Noctis and crew ever exist, he's buttmad about XV.

>It would pretty much be an indirect middle finger to tabata's XV.
Well, can't blame Tabata for that, I mean no body want to complete another man idea when you have your own. If anything, you should blame Wada for this cluster fuck.
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>>359407223
Noctis is his baby, he is absolutely going to be in KH3.
I hope we get an entire Versus world
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>>359397803
That's not quite Hapler level, but you can still tell she's blatantly a fujoshi and had a hard time not making it all gay as fuck.
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>>359395748
>>359395821
>>359396012
15 was a good game and you need to get over it.
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>>359407223
Noctis and the bros will be in KH.
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>>359407507
No it wasn't
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Has Nomura even said a single thing about XV since he "left" the project? The silence is chilling. He wasn't even at the Uncovered event.
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>>359407580
Yes it was.
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Hi XVkun
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>>359407619
How am I XV kun?
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>>359407591
No, he don't mention anything about it at all even when he said about SE big project he mention about WoFF instead of XV, it was so obvious that he's fucking mad.
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>>359407167
>I'm curious how L'cie were going to be
The King of Lucis has a ring that in exchange for his lifespan he maintains a barrier that protects the city from the night creatures and gives magical power to royal guard.
It's closer to a fal'cie tho.
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>>359398645
>I love Princess Luna, she is so cute and strong

Did the executives in SE even know the content of their own fucking game? Or did they tell the shills what they thought people are going to think regardless of the reality of their product?
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>>359407763
Not a single thing? He's either bound by contract to shut up or he's so mad about everything that he knows whatever he says will just hurt the company paying his salary. Holy shit. What the fuck are you doing, SE?
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>game gets good review and selling well

Nomura btfo
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>>359405904
It's just XV-kun sperging as usual.
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>>359407818
When did they mention a wall in versus 13?
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>>359407591
>He wasn't even at the Uncovered event.
He was probably busy doing his job instead of attending a shitshow of false promises
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>>359407941
8/10 is basically the "this is the lowest we're allowed to score a AAA game" score and sales are drastically down in Japan compared to FFXIII.
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>>359407957
is xv-kun even fucking real?
i bet its like 3 guys who share the same thoughts and are autistic
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>>359405904
There was never any sign of it being anything like hamlet.
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>>359406041
They were actually both cited by Nomura. The royal family operated like the mafia and Noct and his bros had a little brother/older brother structure like the yakuza. The heavy Japanese influence on Lucis is also an indication.
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Plz dont bully the writer, she just wanted to write her dream road trip with kawaii boys
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>>359408058
Are you that grill that was butthurt about her self insert getting replaced?
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>>359408042
>is xv-kun even fucking real?
https://twitter.com/_bazztek
Yes he is, this is his twitter. He comes here because he's banned everywhere else
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>>359408042
no
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>>359407941
>good review and selling well
FF13 got good review and selling well too, anon. Actually 13 actually break a million it it's first day in Nips and everyone agree that it's fucking turd.
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>>359408042
It's just a boogyman that anti kun made.
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>female writer
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>>359407818
Crystal cancer and accelerated aging wasn't a thing in Versus. Their wall was just an anti-armament rune wall and I think it mentioned some magical platoon were the ones who kept it up.
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>>359408238
lightning tho.
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Still remember when they hyped about the verticality of the combat system, with all the wall scaling and shit.

What a load of bullshit
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>>359408238
ff13 didn't get any positive fan reaction like 15 did.
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>>359407916
Well, Ferrari expressed his frustration for not being able to say anything about the wasted effort and work since Tabata cut so much out if that's any indication on how the Versus camp feels.
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>>359408289
>>359408124
To be fair, Japanese female devs aren't like American female devs. Many of them are hugely talented and aren't feminist cunts who turn games into anti-male propaganda.
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>>359408058
I think Stella belonged to another Mafia family too, a more Westernised one, adds to the Romeo & Juliet factor

But nah fuck that, we got Luna the useless moe blob
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>>359408158
No, I'm the anon who posts factual information unlike you XV-kun.
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>>359408397
You'll never know what she was like because there was never anything to get attached to.
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>>359408384
Poor Ferrari. He did the best "FFXV" designs by far. And most of what he did got scrapped because lolTabata.
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>>359408353
>All of those versions of the combat we will never get to play
Sad, so sad.
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>>359408353
Remember to thank Tabata!
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>>359408491
It's funny because the 2 scenes she was in in the trailers had more emotion attachment to them than Luna did the whole fucking game
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>>359408452
Being able to recognize you doesn't make me 15 kun.
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>>359408384
Now that you mention it, Ferrari seems buttmad about V13 and 15 as well, lol.
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>>359408491
no she would have been exactly like how I wrote her in my fanficton and you literally cannot prove me wrong
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>>359408491
There was far more to get "attached to" with Stella in all the trailers then there is with Luna in the entire XV compilation. Deal with it XV-kun.
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>get handed near-infinite resources, a dedicated engine, a 100-man dev team and four years of dev time
>still fuck it astronomical levels
This man is a giant retard. It makes me sad that Kojima was locked in a room for six months while this idiot basically got free reigns to do whatever the fuck he wanted.
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>>359408353
My only memory of that is how choppy and garbage it looked.
It was jarring since most of the trailer ran smoothly but when combat came it was a shitfest.
FF7R's trailer suffered from the same problem, Cinematics? ohkay, Battle? ohfuck
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>>359408586
lol no there was personality or depth in either of them.
>>359408643
Stop getting assmad at the idea of multiple people liking XV.
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>>359408591
It does because you're inlove with Kagari and the only one who brings her up XV-kun. Ask her out already, you two can fuck off together and have autism babies. Won't even have time to shitpost anymore.
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>>359408586
no you are wrong
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>>359408752
I'm not XV kun and plenty of people bring her up.
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>FFXV-kun is still defending Tabata even though it's confirmed that he fucked up
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>>359408737
>multiple people liking XV

You and your multiple personalities don't count XV-kun.
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>>359408823
>>359408829

I thought you got a trip XV-kun? Pls use it so I can filter your autism.
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>>359408649
>4 years
Even 3 years would be generous, considering FFXV's development under Nomura went into at least late 2013 early 2014 before he gone rogue to FF7R.
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>>359408832
>XV fans are enjoying their games while versus cucks will never be anything but cucks who fell in love with a game that was never finished.
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>>359408832
confirmed by whom?
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>>359408823
>That took away that based Rapier & gave Luna a generic staff

So fucking lame
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>>359408823
>all this damage control

reminder that luna gets 10 minutes of screentime and then gets stabbed like a bitch
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>>359408221
>>359408286
>doesn't exist
>got banned for proving he does
l o l
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>>359396965
>I waited
Kek, your fault, I don't expect shit from SE after FFXIII
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>>359408908
There are multiple people in this thread senpai.
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>>359408930
>shiteaters enjoying their turd

You sure showed us.

>implying you're not the biggest cuck still defending Tabata after he fucked your asshole bloody

XV-kun pls.
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>>359408992
I know that he exists but versus are so easily fucked with.
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>>359409019
Your multiple personalities don't count XV-kun.
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>>359408945
>Reddit: the weapon
>based
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>>359408823
Fuck, if only that was Noctis's personality.

Squall is best protagonist fight me at high noon in front of Tesco
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>>359409169
I'm not XV kun.
You guys have ruined every XV thread so I'm just paying my debt back now.
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>>359408649
Kojima would've went over budget hiring western movie actors to voice everything, shat on the story, change noctis face to Norman reedus. Then he gets fired and acts like he did nothing wrong.
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>>359409061
He got the game done in 3 years while nomura couldn't even do it in 7.
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>>359397803
>Helper morphs into an Asian
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>>359396382
Found something I never saw in that trailer before.
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>>359395748
What was cut from this trailer besides the good version of Regis?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcUSXub_ypU
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>>359409263
Bring your gunblade, chicken-wuss
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>>359408967
That's still 10 minutes more than Stella :^)
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>SE puts Tabata in charge to quickly finish Nomura's work
>decides to scrap it all, instead make another half-finished game instead
BRAVO TABATA
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>>359397834
Probably for the best then. Even if it turned out well the sequels would have been pure shit.
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>>359408938
by Tabata himself
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>>359408396
>Many of them are hugely talented

Sadly, Saori isn't one of those devs.
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>>359409528
nice
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can someone explain xv kun and kagari to me please
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>>359409568
Probably not. But there is a distinction between Japanese and American female devs.
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Is this game worth a buy? I'm pissed about VS13, but I want something new to play
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the excuses being made for this game...
>the vague story
>the lack of interaction bewteen noct and luna
>the fact that you have to watch an anime and movie prior to getting the game
>major fucing plot event happening offscreen

how can anone defend this? this is getting basic shit wrong?

i can actually respect te ign review because you can tell they wanted to give the gam a 7 but did n't want t be blacklisted by se.
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>>359409716
It's a fun game.
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>>359409001
People should have stopped expecting anything from them after the disaster that FFVIII
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>>359409667
XV-kun is a huge FFXV shill and autist who has been banned everywhere for being obnoxious except 4chan. Also goes by bazztek.

Kagari is a FFXIV shill on Neofag who is also huge Versus fangirl. She's XV-kun's arch nemesis.

Does this sound autistic to you? Well welcome to FFXV threads the past three years.
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>>359397717
Almost every scene has been deleted from the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXMJTGna_xA

Just look at this, it's from one year ago and didn't even make the game.

But now we have out of context Kingsglaive scenes with awkward silence that came via a last minute patch.
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>>359409667
XV-kun: anybody that likes XV
Kagari: anybody that likes Versus XIII
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Was it Tabata's decision to put that gay ass song at the beginning?
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>>359409667
Going over the kunmarillion lore is too long a task, but basically
>kagari=buttmad versus xiii was killed
>xv-kun=anally devastated aussie shitposter who defended xv as if his very being depended on it
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>>359409712
It's basically an incomplete game kinda like how MGSV end up, a decent first half with abysmal latter half except this time the game play is not that good either.

If you wanna know whether you will have fun with it not, I suggest you find a platinum demo or judgement demo to try it first.
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>>359409390
He got a turd, nothing is better than eating shit.
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>>359409861
So those scenes will fade away and classify themselves as obsolete?
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>>359409667
They're both right
>>359409814
>>359409868
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>>359396012
seems kinda legit
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>>359408032
>drastically down in Japan compared to FFXIII.

Who cares? It's still the fastest selling game in history and has most day 1 sales ever.
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>>359409778

that is a 7
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>>359409930
Oh man, then I really feel for FF fans. I absolutely fucking hated MGSV because of how disappointing it was. Can't imagine how it feels for people who thought it was going to be as amazing as the VS13 trailers showed
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>>359409936
XV is fun so you're objectively wrong.
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>>359409507
If he did scrap it all why is there still the Nomura approved band of faggots in the game.
Versus should've been shut down many years ago and kinda ironic that the same shit director was the one that had to wrap up development of both the XIII spin offs that weren't going nowhere, he's the most incompetent martyr.
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Is Ignis literally Kakyoin?
>cool and composed, elegant
>loses eyesight, gets cool sunglasses
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>>359410027
And?
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>>359398645
>played two hours and read an interview
Being a reviewer really is a tough job.

I expect them to put at least 200 hours into a game and write a lengthy list of everything noteworthy.
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>>359395821
>It took a long time to complete the game engine of FF 13

What a tremendous waste of time and effort.
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>>359409667
XV-kun is a sperg obsessed with Kagari who I guess self-inserts into Stella. He clearly wants to fuck her though as once he starts going about her he won't shut up.
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>>359410049
>Is Ignis literally Kakyoin?

jojo reference?
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>>359410008
>It's still the fastest selling game in history
*Also the first simultaneous worldwide release in the franchise's history
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>>359409940
>that webm
>Tabata when he took the reigns of XV
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>>359397898
It is a bold divisive game, I loved it. Personally it is in my top 3 with Final Fantasy 9 and 7.

It is clear story had to be cut to reach deadlines but I have to say it was really impressing they could pull it off with such a great game. Of course it is a damn shame story is not as fleshed out it could be. Maybe DLC:s will expand on it.

It has open world part, many people hate open world games. Even thought Eos is really amazing, sidequests are mostly shit that I can tell you. It also has linear corridor part, which many people will hate. That was pretty short, but action packed and all the story was there (open world did not have that much). Also Final Fantasy purists are cancer and they WILL hate not-turn-based style of combat. They will never accept it, not ever. Even if it is as fun and well done as FFXV combat system.
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>>359409414
Question should've been "what wasn't cut"
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>>359409389
>ha ha recent events

you do realize david hayter and paul eiding were actual nobodies at one point, right? same with flynn and all the other english VAs. this is such a 'lmao current events' post and holds no actual contribution to the conversation, i'm suprised your brain didn't stop you halfway through writing it and just die from the oxygen deprivation you're obviously going through in your human interaction-proof bubble
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>>359410043
He wanted to ride Versus hype for as long as he could obviously. It had a dedicated fanbase and once they started realizing it wasn't the same game they started shitting on him. He even mentions how much they hate him and XV in interviews.
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>>359410043
>Nomura approved band of faggots in the game.
SE want to ride V13 hype so this is not Tabata's fault.
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>>359405904
Plus the Versus gameplay trailer actually ran in 60 fps
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>>359410450
It didn't though
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>>359410412
Read an interview sometime, Tabata is the one to blame.
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>>359408492
Even his Aranea design got scrapped after the cindy incident.
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>>359397898
The game is shit, the only people defending it are casuals and XV-kun.
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>>359410578
What a fucking cuck. Probably the results of his western focus-tests. Atleast I'll solace myself with the fact that this idiot will never be allowed to touch FF again.
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>>359410578
>she used to do stripper moves too

Tabata's a literal faggot.
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>>359410450
lolno.
Even early XV footage can't maintain 30
https://youtu.be/IcUSXub_ypU?t=2m15s
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>>359410517
He can not blame SE higer up if he still want to has a job, it's the same reason Nomura and Kojima never shit on SE and Konami, anon.
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>>359410330
The fuck is wrong with you? Can't get that Kojima dick out of your mouth? Versus XIII was going to be shit anyways with that dynasty warriors button mash shitfest. Tabata saved this from turning into a generic and boring game
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I was wondering why inixtis was so different in tone. I thought early on he was a shy dweeb, but in the game he's an angstu faggot
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>>359410753
Nomura has battered wife-syndrome, again read an interview sometime. Tabata is so far up his own ass it's not even funny.
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>>359410767
>Tabata saved this

The only one with a dick in his mouth is you XV-kun.
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>>359400106
>since CoM
what
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>>359410708
Do we still go in the night city in FFXV?
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>>359410809
Who the fuck is inixtis
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>>359410958
At the end, but it's nowhere near as explorable and big as it was supposed to be in Versus.
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So is the Insomania part in the game at all?
So far I've seen none of the gameplay set in the city.
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>>359395748
>Itamuro is a female
Lmao why was this necessary? Sexist af
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>>359410958
Yeah, the final boss
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>>359410839
>Nomura has battered wife-syndrome
That's pretty much most of Nips dev.

>again read an interview sometime.
>Tabata is so far up his own ass it's not even funny.
...OK, I'm curious of what he done fucked up now, mind to post interview link?
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>>359410330
>state facts
>'LMAO KOJIMA FANGAYS

I agree, XIII VS looked horrible. cool assumption about my stance, retard.

and Tabata 'saved' it from turning into a generic and boring game the same way Kojima 'saved' MGSV from being boring, by forcing an open world with 4 or 5 different sidequests that never change in basic formula, and forcing a mediocre fast travel system to navigate a barely-interesting world. Vs looked like shit, XV looked like shit. it was /always/ shit, anon. just like your post.
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>>359410839
>Nomura has battered wife-syndrome
>Tabata is so far up his own ass it's not even funny.
You are just making shit up to fit an argument, xv-kun or whatever you fucks call yourselves when stroking eachothers dicks.
You are all battered wives in my view, still caring about square's output after being slapped in the face countless times.
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>>359410958
You get a corridor with a behemoth, at the end, that's basically it.
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>>359411165
meant in reply to
>>359410767
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>>359410925
Who the fuck is XV-kun? Maybe you're the one that should get out of that human interaction proof bubble before you die of oxygen deprivation.
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>>359410721
>Eyes that see the lights of expiring souls
Story could have had potential instead we get bromance crap.

How can anyone not be mad about this?
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This whole thread is basically "Muh head cannon"
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>>359410708

Nomura needs to bring back Versus, a CUTSCENE -not a shitty talking boring scene- about a woman doing a striptease move in the air while attacking is AWESOME, cutscenes have to be awesome, Tabata is just boring.

I´m very curious about Nomura´s version of Gentiana, seeing that her old design seemed like a baddas girl (not a boring milf) and I´m sure Tabata just redo her entire character seeing like he cuts even the antagonist (Stella)
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>>359411194
Nomura literally says he's a slave to the company and the reason he never thinks about leaving is because he loves his kids (his creations) too much. He's a hermit that only goes to and from work most of the time, he doesn't even feel his fame.

Meanwhile Tabata won't shut the fuck up about how superior XV was to Versus in every way and his game would send other games running in fear.

I'm not even a Squeenix fan. The only games I ever bought were VII, X and XIV. They've been going downhill for awhile as a company but looked surprisingly good.
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>>359411165
You're whole post is bait and reeks of hypocritical double standard.
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>>359411496
>Versus looked surprisingly good

Fix'd sorry.
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>>359411097
See >>359410958

But it's vastly different. Instead of Insomnia at night it's ruins of Insomnia 10 years later with demons roaming the streets

It's very linear and short and just serves as a road to the final boss.
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>>359411456
She appeared much more youthful and almost playful in her Ferrari render. Obviously had a different outfit too because she has bare shoulders and a necklace.

She seemed to be connected to Prompto going from the trailer matchups and seeing as he got a complete overhaul himself who knows what Gentiana was like in Nomura's version.
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It's funny how retards are defending Nomura when his version of the game doesn't even exist. How can you defend something that never happened? Not saying Tabata is any better but it's pretty unfair to bash the guy when he had to finish the mess Nomura left for him, on top of SE horrible management and the multiple sequel bullshit that XV was going to have.
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>>359411885
>mole under lip
I'm in love.
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>>359411850
I remember in a rather recent trailer there's a clip of them driving in the city with some giant octopus things in the sky, is it still in the game?
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>>359411567
what's the issue? MGSV was a mediocre game in comparison to its more focused prequels. i have the same opinion of FFXV and its previous incarnations. I enjoy Kojima but nothing I said about him was incorrect. sold his game out to appeal to lowest common denominator gameplay, just as tabata did because he's unfamiliar with console game development. wasn't meant as bait in the slightest.
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>>359411917
>Not saying Tabata is any better but it's pretty unfair to bash the guy when he had to finish the mess Nomura left for him
Well, The Nomura-relate stuff left in XV is some of his character design&name so it's not really a left over.
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>>359411496
>Meanwhile Tabata won't shut the fuck up about how superior XV was to Versus in every way and his game would send other games running in fear.
[citation needed]
At least put this thread to rest with that then.
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>>359411980
Thats in Kingsglaive, the movie.
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OH NO IT'S A WOMAN ON STAFF. TRULY IT IS THE END TIMES
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>>359411917
Tabata's a hack that purposely shit on the game for his own ego trip. He's never made a good game, XV never would have been good under his direction no matter how much time they gave him.

Versus may have been unfinished, but all signs pointed to it shaping up to be a great game if SE actually let him work on it.
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>>359412134
It's pretty obvious a lot of the stuff in the second half was Nomura, and many aspects of Kingslaive too.
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>>359411980
>>359412161
I'm talking about this
https://youtu.be/b0YxkhgTIIY?t=1m22s
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>>359412160
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>>359412262
No it wasn't, stop parroting this bullshit
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>>359412232
OH NO IT'S AN INEXPERIENCED WRITER PENNING THE MAJOR PLOT POINTS FOR A MAJOR AAA FRANCHISE

go be a faggot elsewhere, the men are trying to have a real discussion
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>>359412238
>but all signs pointed to it shaping up to be a great game if SE actually let him work on it.

People said the same about Tabata XV before spoilers came out. No one can say if the game would be good or bad because it never fucking happened.
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>>359412262
>pretty obvious
>source is my ass
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>>359411885

It looked like Gogo from Kill Bill, japanese love that personality so perhaps Gentiana was gonna be like this.

Versus was going to be episodic so I´m sure Tabata just scrapped almost everything, little antagonists and all. Hooded Guy seemed very important in Versus too.

It´s not fair that Versus was never the focus of S-E because of the fucking FFXIV 1.0, who knows maybe Tabata made Noctis old and kill everyone to make sure there is no sequel, fucking disgusting.
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>>359412413
No one with a fucking brain has thought XV is good for the past year. XV-kun shilling it every thread doesn't count.
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>>359412262
>It's pretty obvious a lot of the stuff in the second half was Nomura
Not really, if anything it scream "Holy Shit, we can't make it in time so let's just rush the fuck it out" more than anything.

>many aspects of Kingslaive too.
Imsomnia invasion, the good part.
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>>359412279
Yes that's in the game but it's in Niflheim and only a ~45 second car chase where nothing much happens.
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>>359412538
It's pretty great, actually.

Though, I still hope to see the two come together someday, because this scene was goddamn amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6At_bb1PNU
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>>359412489
>Tabata made Noctis old and kill everyone to make sure there is no sequel

It's pretty obvious that's why he did it. Nomura had nothing to do with Old Noctis and wanted a sequel and Tabata already expressed sentiment that he didn't want to do a sequel.
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>>359412327
You forgot the quote before where he says XV is better than Versus in every way possible imaginable and unimaginable.
Just saying "I WANT TO MAKE THE BESTEST GAME" is just cliche and ddumb
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>>359412327
This isn't even a fake quote. He also said FFXV would save gaming in Japan and then it sold far less than FFXIII.
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>>359412631
XV is dogshit, I would say the same even if I didn't like Versus because it's true.
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>>359412719
>Tabata already expressed sentiment that he didn't want to do a sequel.
The amount of DLC though...
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>>359412870
Unfinished content because the retard spent so much time rewriting Versus that there was little dev time left to actually design the game. It's shameful they're selling it for a price considering they were obviously meant to be part of the game.
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>>359412870
It's because he had the misfortune of trying to fit 3 games into 1. Blame Nomura and his sequel fetish.
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>>359412773
He shits on Versus any time it's brought up. It's strewn across a few interviews. Saying Luna was a superior heroine because Stella was a DID, saying he didn't like Noctis so he changed him, saying he didn't like Prompto so he changed him. Suggesting that Versus fans aren't "real FF fans" just because they hate XV even though his whole marketing with XV has been to appeal to non-FF fans aka casuals.
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>>359412992
Tabata's only misfortune is being a hack.
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>>359412992
I'll blame the retard who ditched all of Versus and then attempted to fool fans by using its corpse as skin and eyes for his own shitty boy band Game of Thrones.
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>>359412719
>Nomura wanted a sequel
Where does this sentiment come from?
I reckon he just planned ahead a bit and made sure it was possible if the game is a hit, but nothing was set in stone yet.

It's just being thorough and every ambitious scenario writer does this.
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>>359412870
cut content that was already there so they can make more money.
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>>359413007
He also blamed the linear aspects of FFXV on Nomura when he's had FOUR years to make this game and Nomura didn't even have a tenth of the team he's had.

Also, new thread? I'm not done venting over this massive retard.
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>>359412992
>It's because he had the misfortune of trying to fit 3 games into 1.
The whole thing got scrap into the bin since Tabata decided to make his own game not to finished another man's game so that was never an excuse.
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>>359413160
Versus was always supposed to atleast have a sequel and Nomura made this clear from early on. The tagline "A world of the Versus EPIC" is even in the early trailers.

I'm not ragging on him for it. Every hates sequels because Lightning shit, but if they turned out to be good games, I have no problem. It's not like it's episodic like VII:R where you take a game that was originally one game and cut it up. Versus was supposed to be a complete game on it's own.
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I wonder if the final boss was gonna be Stella
Because the final fight would have been incredible if they replaced that red headed faggot with Stella

Would have been an amazing deconstruction too, forcing NEET's to kill their waifu

Oh well
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>>359413160
>Where does this sentiment come from?

He outright fucking said he wanted to make Versus a whole series with multiple games. "A world of the Versus epic" was the tagline in his trailers.
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>>359413246
>new thread

You can make one if you want, I'm all for venting.
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>>359413160
>It's just being thorough and every ambitious scenario writer does this.

Atleast it´s more planned than separate story between anime, web novel, game and a movie and trying to fix it with DLCs.

Nomura has the charm, even if some things are shit or plot complicated he puts way more love in his games unlike Tabata.

You can notice how mouthful Tabata is, Nomura is the type that shut up. Tabata is just stupid and I hope he never touches a FF game again.
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>>359413372
>forcing NEET's to kill their waifu
Not many games do this, would have instantly been GOTY.
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>>359402883
World of Warcraft : Legion.jpg
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>>359413007
>Saying Luna was a superior heroine because Stella was a DID
Wrong he said Stella didn't fit the story they wanted to do any longer, that i can back up from memory.
I mean if you rationalize that to SHE'S SHIT M8 then i dunno what to say to you but hang in there, dude.
Rest is i'm not even going to touch because its also probably very distorted from the reality but i don't remember those something similar to those quotes and this thread sucks anyway to argue like this.
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>>359413160
Nomura want a trilogy.
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>>359413497
No, he literally says Luna fits the story more because they wanted a strong heroine that didn't need to be saved or some shit.
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>>359413447
>"A world of the Versus epic"

And S-E just didn´t let that happens, instead we will get DLCs that Tabata and that shitty Dissidia 012 writer will have done in like 5 minutes.
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>>359413604
>>359413604
>>359413604

New thread
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>>359413476
>separate story between anime, web novel, game and a movie and trying to fix it with DLCs.
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>>359413497
It's not distorted at all, you must be seriously fucking new to not have been here for all of Tabata's ego trips every interview when they came out.
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Nomura is fucking hack. He wanted to make Versus XIII into a fucking musical. Thank god SE vetoed him.
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>>359413598
>that didn't need to be saved or some shit.

And what if we had to save Stella in the original? it´s not something, and atleast he seemed like a boss, Luna is not even that.
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>>359413598
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/final-fantasy-xv-will-have-multiple-direct-sequels
>"In the trailer, there was a line that read 'A World of the Versus Epic,' which suggests that it will be part of an epic," he acknowledged. "While Final Fantasy XV will have one climax, as a story, we plan to continue it further."
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>>359413160
There was suppose to be a lot in Versus 13, like an Underwater city

Nomura knew he couldn't do that all in one game, so he decided there would be at least one sequel
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>>359413768
Luna is all around trash, even if you had to save Stella, you also fight her and she's more interesting that whatever the fuck Tabata was trying to do with Luna.
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>>359413742
Everyone working under SE is a fucking hack. Final Fantasy has been dead for years yet they keep pimping a corpse. Get ready for the FFVII remake and for your childhood to be crushed.
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>>359413768
Stella was in the other crime family at war with Noctis's family, she wasn't going to be saved, she was going to fucking kill you

The trailers literally show this
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>>359412232
I am glad you came to that conclusion as well, we're on the same page.
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>>359397117
I forgot how asian he used to look.
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>>359413716
>It's not distorted at all, you must be seriously fucking new to not have been here for all of Tabata's ego trips every interview when they came out.
I'm reading interviews right now, and for now i'm just reading bad decisions like making the enemies behave like animals instead of video game enemies.
Nothing like STELLA A SHIT
NOCTIS A SHIT
VERSUS A SHIT
NOMURA A SHIT
Like everyone seems to claim, he just comes off as very misguided and not the super villain everyone seems to imagine him.
example
>I mean, certainly when it came to the switch over when we decided to turn Versus 13 into Final Fantasy 15, we decided that it would really be the best thing to keep as much of the content that had already been announced to the fans as possible… we wanted to try to reuse those ideas and keep those ideas within the design of FF15. We got together and discussed that and decided on that policy to keep as much as we could.
>The thinking behind it really was… because we approached this as a new game with new hardware, rather than saying “okay, what can we do to restart the versus project and try to make that using the new structure,” we decided what we wanted to do instead was show the fans what we think is the ultimate FF for now, what we wanted to do with FF for now. So it was that approach rather than saying “okay, we’ll keep Versus and try to recreate that”.
Misguided? yes. dumb? a bit. the villain of hellfire? not really.
Mostly explains why the final product is all over the place and should've never have released that way.
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>>359414004

The more I read Tabata the more he seems like a liar that doesn´t want to admit he is lazy and incompetent, he shows no love nor respect for others work (see Parasite Eve)

I hope he gets the Baba (from Tales of) treatment
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>>359414396
>I'm reading interviews
>not the one's you mentioned but it's still relevant even though it was contradicted in other recent interviews
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>>359409667
xv-kun: some creepy faggot that stalks ffxv threads/kagari
kagari: i dunno
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>>359397117
Tabata made a movie, an anime series, a novel and a crappy game out of it.

Plus he spent way more money on lenghty trailers. We barely saw anything in Nomura's trailers and they look very inexpensive.

Tabata's trailer money is also literally wasted since like 10% made it into the final game.
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>>359414182
He looks like an anime character now and then turns white af.

I miss half-asian Noct.
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>>359414521
>ows no love nor respect for others work (see Parasite Eve)
Parasitive Eve had no respect to parasite eve to begin with.
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The more /v/ loses its shit over a game the more I come to believe its not a bad game.
>>359396709
>I believe sourceless strangers on the internet because it confirms my biased
Might want to get that checked
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>>359397898
The thirst for cock is strong in this one
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