You think he hates Miyazaki since he's now known as the

You think the other guy hates everyone seeing as he's known as 'the other guy?'

Apologize.

no way, Miyazaki pulled him along to do gameplay and balancing on DS3. The guy that was already directing the game was demoted to a similar position.

>>348814106
Do we know who's doing what on those three new From projects?

>>348814403
we know fuck all about any of them
only thing that's probable is that Miyazaki is directing one of them at the same time as the DS3 DLC

>>348814106
But Dark Souls II was great

Stop lying to yourself

>>348814301
>no way, Miyazaki pulled him along to do gameplay and balancing on DS3
miyazaki said in a gamespot interview that the b-team directors handled the online balancing, so he basically said the pvp sucks because of them lel

>>348814640
ahahah das2fags are the most pathetic fags on /v/ 2bh. never heard as loud a vocal minority as you guys

Who directed DaS3?

>>348814106
>he's now known as the 'b-team' director
Except that's not the case. He's known as the guy that saved DaS2 from Shibuya and turned the scraps into a mostly good game.

>>348814737
>so he basically said the pvp sucks because of them lel
Classic Miyazaki misdirection. He also refused to take ownership of Lost Izalith and Bloodborne's Chalice Dungeons (which weren't that bad tbf).

>>348814737
>miyazaki said in a gamespot interview that the b-team directors handled the online balancing, so he basically said the pvp sucks because of them lel

Source? I mean, I'd believe it, since shit like giant seeds and 3-phantom co-op were originally DaS2 things.

>>348814106

I doubt it consider 2 is better than 3.

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>>348814958

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DS2 > DS3

This guy should be proud

>>348815023

Fuck off with your memes, it's true.

2 was much more ambitious than 3.

>>348814939
3-way credit between Miyazaki, Tanimura and some dude who was a level designer on Bloodborne.

I hope he takes over as director of the next Souls clone.

MAKE SOULS GREAT AGAIN

>>348814939
mononoke totoro

I want Miyazaki to go because he sucks at making mech games.

Who was in charge of the online mechanics for Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1? That person needs to be the one directing these games.

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>>348814940
>>348814946
He doesn't really blame them but he did make it clear that they handled the online lel.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-director-talks-franchises-legacy-poss/1100-6441636/

>>348815121
Calm down, kid. No need to start getting angry.

>>348815121
may have been more 'ambitious' but it's execution was shit and ultimately it is inferior :^)

>>348815263
>programmer for specific tasks in charge of direction

DS2 players on release date: 79K
DS3 players on release date: 129K

DS2 players 4 months after launch: ~20K
DS3 players 4 months after launch: ~7K

Check steamcharts if you don't believe me, remember to scroll back to 2014 for DS2.

Super linear souls game = shit replayability

>>348815449
>steam
lol. most players are on ps4 kiddo.

also b team is to blame for screwing up das3. they started making the game while miyazaki was still working on bloodborne so the big M couldn't salvage that piece of shit enough. B-team also in charge of the online.

still better than das2, no doubt.

>>348815449
It's not the linearity, it's the garbage multiplayer.

Like DS2 wasn't exactly stellar in that regard but you could connect fast and there were a lot of covenants so it was certainly better than DS3.

>>348815449
Dark souls 2 had DLC released four months after launch. Six months later we still don't have any DLC for Dark Souls 3.

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DaS > BB > DeS = DaS3 >>> DaS2

My opinion best opinion, you know it to be true.

>>348815660
Yes, those stats are before DLCs.
DS2 didn't even get close to going under 10K before the DLCs, meanwhile DS3 hits 6K at times.

Shit PvP and shit replayability nuked the game, period, only 20/10 amazing DLCs can even get this to even equal DS2 right now.

>>348815778
DaS >= BB > DeS = DaS3 >>> DaS2

wew p close there family

>>348815630
>It's not the linearity, it's the garbage multiplayer.
I couldn't give two shits about multiplayer, I usually play offline, but I beat every other game in the series a dozen times and I'm bored of DaS3 after 2 full playthroughs. The linearity is a huge deal.

>>348815902
Not him. But I'll agree DaS3 is shit in terms of replayability, far more than BB. But I didn't feel DaS2 did any better. It just felt tedious and on both DaS2 and 3 I gave up part-way through a bow-only run. Strange really.
And to be clear, I disliked the PvP in both 2 and 3.

>>348815778

>DaS2 below 3
>DeS below DaS

wow senpai, thats some plebby shit there

it goes DeS>DaS=DaS2>DaS3

>>348815449
check the dlc boi

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DaS3 was such a massive disappointment on so many levels.

>>348816047
>DeS top
Take of the nostalgia goggles m80

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>>348816047
>DaS=DaS2
>plebby shit

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Daily reminder that only asshurt PCucks that still aren't over Bloodborne say DaS2 wasn't a pile of shit.

Is Dark Souls 2 is so bad, why does it have 91 on Metacritic?

>>348816135

>nostalgia for a game from 1 gen ago that uses the same engine and 90% of the assets of all the sequels so far

okay m8

>>348815971
DS2 had amazing replayability in terms of the crazy route you could take to get endgame gear at low SM/SL.
You can kill all 4 soul lords in any order, just like DeS and DS1.

You can do crazy shit like start a new character, kill Dragonrider for souls, buy the cat ring, jump in the Gutter, kill Rotten, enter the first DLC for whatever gear you want, and tons of twinkling titanites. All this in the first hour.

DS3 by comparison is a corridor.

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>>348816283
>mfw DS3 only has 89

>>348816326
>1 gen ago
>having to use bullshit buzzwords to cover your retardation

1 gen sure sounds a lot better than 7 years when you're trying to pretend nostalgia has nothing to do with it I guess.

>>348816326
Good, now you can be a little less bias.

>>348816283
because reviewers are fucking stupid, especially when it comes to a series like souls. they want to parrot that it's good (as most of them don't really understand why it's good in the first place) for fear of looking like a 'casual' if they say it's bad.

incidentally, people that genuinely can't see why das2 is bad are also major plebs. no offense.

>>348815785
>Yes, those stats are before DLCs.
>Four months after launch
>DSII release in April 2014
>Sunken King release in July of 2014

Fucking idiot.

>>348816428
DS2 = DS1 > DS3

Roll mashing does not work in DS1 and DS2.
Roll mashing works great in DS3.

>>348816283
Generally, Dark Souls 2 is panned by Dark Souls fans. People who jump on the flavour of the month bandwagon and play through it once then drop it don't really care for the slight differences or anything else that tends to be brought up criticising the game.

>>348814238
kek
This

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>>348816504
DaS > DaSIII > DaSII

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>>348815449
That's because DLC came out for DSII earlier than for DSIII.

>>348816504
wow actually go find a rope and hang yourself.

thinking that DaS2 is comparable to DaS1 is genuinely the opinion of someone who hasn't played enough of both games or even games in general.

It's literally the biggest flag for contrarianism or being a casul, you absolutely cannot articulate a legitimate reason to believe this.

>>348816416

7 years, 1 gen. its all the same to me. maybe seven years sounds like a much longer period of time to you since youre a teenager or something

i have controllers older than you i bet

>>348816634
DS2 is above DS1 in tems of mechanics, DS1 just edges by because of the good level design.

>>348816648
I stopped playing before the DLC, what does the bull helmet do?

>>348816701
>DS2 is above DS1 in tems of mechanics
yes broken hitbox and sludgy shit feeling gameplay is fantastic mechanics

>>348816634

No, I just didn't like DS3 because it's worse than DS1, DS2 and BB.
DS1 is still the best.

>>348816738

Extra poise.

>>348816659
Are you implying nostalgia has a cutoff point? I went on a camping trip last year. I can't feel nostalgic for that? I can't feel nostalgic for a video game that launched seven years ago? Don't be stupid.

>>348816659
>you're young therefore what I feel isn't nostalgia

No, idiot, you associate DeS with being a better game because you played it first. Depending on circumstances it might even represent a time period in your life you'd like to return to and which you therefore associate even more strongly with "fun" and "good" and so on.

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>>348816753
really made me think

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Dark Souls 2
>Saves DaS2 from being a bad MMO but not everything can be salvaged. Still adds questionable choices such as invasion mechanics and ADAPTABILITY
>Retards think DaS2 is the pinnacle of Soulsborne PVP

Dark Souls 3
>Worked on multiplayer and balance for Dark Souls 3 with Steel Battlion director while Miyazaki gets the main game to his liking.
>Retards cry for Dark Souls 2 gameplay to come back.

Yui 'The Hack' Tanimura.

>>348816701
Like 360 tracking enemies? Game mechanics
Like soul memory? Game mechanics
Like life gems AND estus? Game mechanics
Dark Souls 2 does a few good things, like power stancing, but it's FAR outweighed by all the shit mechanics.

Honestly dark souls 2 and 3 are both filler and should never exist and dark souls 1 is an unfinished mess.

Bamco souls were all shit in some ways. I hope fromsoft moves away from bamco

>>348816659
Oh man, he's playing the age card.
I don't know which is worse: DeS fanboys or DaS2 fanboys.

>>348816835
extremely cherry picked moment whereas it's the norm in das2. but dont let me stop you from busting out your folder you pathetic basement loser lol

>>348816753
>sludgy shit feeling gameplay
That would be DS1, the slower game. Try replaying it once on a while.
DS2 is faster on average on all weapon speeds, it just has less stamina so that speed comes in waves.

>>348816942
ahahahahaha

>>348816904
They are. DSIII was the last From Software game under Bamco. They're currently working on three new IPs, one of which is a dark fantasy RPG unrelated to the Souls series; Miyazaki has personally stated Souls is done.

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>>348816924

>>348816701
>DS2 is above DS1 in tems of mechanics

I really wish whoever invented this meme would have killed themselves prior to doing so

DaS2 plays like absolute garbage, it just looks prettier because muh style over substance 60fps vanilla game

the tracking

the hitboxes (inb4 lvl adp, that's not the problem here, the hitboxes don't give an accurate representation of your model at any agility level, just because you can exploit it at high agi doesn't make it "good")

the weapon classes are more bland and overstuffed with useless addons than any other edition in the franchise

etc.

das2 being good mechanically is a myth that needs to be debunked at every possible point.

>>348816835
>>348817003
>everything thread

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>Make the best boss in the entire Soulsborne series
>Is still considered inferoior to Memeahcki

>>348817003
>inb4 it doesn't count

>>348816942
>DS2 is faster on average on all weapon speeds

someone post the webms comparing speed between the games and shut this guy up

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>>348816840
>Like 360 tracking enemies? Game mechanics

No such thing exists, enemies only track when they are targeting with the weapon over their head, once the attack has stated (when your roll should be triggered) they can no longer track.

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>>348817096
>No such thing exists

>>348817003
makes no difference kiddo. played the game and I know just how shit its hitbox is. no matter what you do you can't convince me that your piece of shit game isn't shit and there's nothing you can say or post that will want to make me play it again :^)

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where the fuck are all of the das2 apologists coming from? is it trolling?

>>348816776

well, firstly, i played DeS for the first time when DaS launched. i thought it was gonna be a direct sequel, and having heard good things about DeS i bought a ps3 and both games that week. when i found out online the games werent related i ended up playing through DaS first, then DeS. DeS was the better game

secondly, nostalgia doesnt have a cut off point. but when discussing games on 4chan the nostalgia argument is usually brought up to discredit a game on the grounds that the software or hardware has aged poorly and it wont stand up to modern standards, ie it will be dated and shit. this argument holds no water in DeS's case because the game still (almost)looks and (certainly)plays as well as the most recent entry in the series

your camping trip cant be made dated or obsolete by modern camping trips, it isnt a fair comparison

>>348817096
hahahahaha this guy hasn't even played the game

>>348817142
Just /v/ being contrarian as usual, don't think too hard about it.

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>>348817128
Just play the game and learn to roll late instead of early like DS2.

>muh hitboxes

>>348817143
>on 4chan the nostalgia argument is usually brought up to discredit a game on the grounds that the software or hardware has aged poorly and it wont stand up to modern standards
>I made up this strawman for you to hold therefore you are wrong

quit while you're behind old man

>>348817142
DS3 was just THAT BAD compared to DS2 and BB.

>>348817216
What does this have to do with 360 degree tracking you numbskull? I know you only have so many webms and you want an excuse to post them, but don't just be retarded about it.

>>348817142
Face it, DS2 SOTFS is he greatest game ever made.

>>348817060
how is he the best?

>>348816985
That is good news.
Under which publisher though or are they self publishing?

>>348817020
>the hitboxes (inb4 lvl adp
adp is a retarded stat in itself and is just another aspect of why das2 is retarded. having invincibility frames tied to a stat is fucking stupid when the animations remains exactly the same.

das2 is an abomination.

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"It just works, you fucking idiots!" - Hideo Miyazaki

>>348817143
>because the game still (almost)looks and (certainly)plays as well as the most recent entry in the series

DeS does not look as good as DSIII. Not even close. More colorful? Probably.

Plays as well? Certainly? Rolling feels floaty compared to any later iteration in the series, same with running. Parry looks and feels extremely dated. Armor is useless, DeS has lots of issues none of the other entries do not.

If you're going to praise DeS, praise its level design which DEFINITELY holds up to this day.

>>348817216
>holy shit that stupid tracking

This is your example of good? This is you DEFENDING DaS2?

>>348817142
/v/ is not one person and lots of people actually liked DaS 2

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>>348817382

More people definitely dislike DaS2, especially those who didn't miss out on DaS1 or DeS.

>>348817303
Well they were bought by Kadokawa Corporation, which I assume allowed the move away from Bamco. I don't know if Kadokawa will publish their games or not.

>>348817142

theyve always been around. i thought DaS2 was better than 1 all along

at the time, the /v/ hivemind was so focused on hating DaS2 and loving DaS1 that any dissenting opinion was immediately dismissed as ironic shitposting/trolling

>>348817390
The graphics don't even look much better, they just wanted the it too look more creepy with rotten trees, etc.

>>348817332
literal shockwave. you can see the rocks flying n shiet.

>>348817269
DaS3 was far better than das2 though.

Personally I think it is the best Bamco Souls. Although DaS1 would win if it were finished.

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>DS2 sucks because some irellevant Potatonigger said so.

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You can really see the different teams when even the genuinely good improvements of DaS2 didn't make it to DaS3.
>non-instant Estus heal that doesn't allow you to cheaply tank with chugs? Not in DaS3.
>power stancing? Nope. Off-hand weapons use the shitty basic attack / pseudo-shield moveset again.
>better balanced weight levels and more viable leeway between fatroll and speedster? 70% is just the new 50% of DaS1 and nothing else matters
>balanced poise? ;^)
>good defensive stats that actually enable you to achieve near immunity to certain elements with the right gear and spells? Diminishing returns instead. Fuck heavy armor and Vitality in general.
>certain specialized armor requiring stat investments? Not in DaS3
>weapon stats screen clearly showing relevant information like cast speed, poise dmg and counter damage? Not in DaS3
>removal of non-scaling paths that just allow you to forgo offensive stats altogether? Raw is god now, though admittedly non-scaling weapons aren't as OP as DaS1.
>remember when poison and toxic were actually viable options? lol me neither
>fuck boss weapon infusions too. Actually fuck build variety in general.
>weapon durability actually mattered? nah
>Also who needs NG+ or Ascetics? One unique weapon like DeS will be enough.

DS3 fags STILL in denial.
The game right now is shit and the worst souls by far, I hope it will get better with the dlcs but they fucked up so much.

I still find it hard to play DS2 with it's lackluster character animations. Everything about it feels half-assed, the way your character runs, the way they roll, landing after walking off a small ledge.

>>348817507
>irellevant
I think you're the potatonigger here friend

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literally unplayable

>>348817469
It's not about the graphics, it's art direction.
DeS looks far better than DaS2 just because DaS2 looks washed out and it has weak atmosphere.

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>>348817558

>DS

Secondary, it's time to go back to Read it.

>>348817558
Only if you are mobafag. If you care more about good bosses and pve das3 is the second best souls game. After Bloodborne.

>>348817559
DS2 character and NPC animations are great, almost as good as DS1, it's the enemy animations that suck, especially the hollows.

>>348817558
lol I wouldn't describe myself as a 'DaS3fag'. I'm just a fag that knows DaS2 is the worst in the series. DaS3 is only better than DaS2 :^)

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>>348814106
Theyre all good games, 2 is the weakest of a powerhouse trilogy. Funny thing is dark souls 2, which everyone says is a b-team game has a lot of unique gameplay quirks that none of the other games have.

Stuff like:
>lock on changing your stance
>unique backstab/parry animations
>two types of parries
>guard break(I miss this)
>dual stance(this too)
>left hand full moveset

I could go on, I think his team and miyazakis team dont collaborate much because a lot of good shit from 2 was left out of three. Maybe the all the shit flinging ds2 got scared them.

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>>348817134
>Muh anecdotal experience is more relevant than actual video evidence.

>>348817593
DS2 needed more bloom and blur, they're clearly less than DS1 and DeS, but the textures are 2-3 times bigger on average.

>>348817584

Fun fact: Most shockwave DaS2 videos are when the player is dodging to the side because of the lag compensation given to the player character in a single player instance versus the enemies he's hosting.

You're betting off running or rolling forward/backward.

And yes this post is against DaS2 because it fucking sucks ass.

>>348817371

as a comparison to the most recent entry, DaS3, you really think DeS has worse armor mechanics, worse rolling, worse parry?

even compared to DaS1 and 2 its as good or better in certain regards. personally i hated the poise bullshit in DaS, being able to facetank everything and win easily by pumping 1 stat and using zap handers or drake sword was retarded.

rolling was fucked in DaS2. i got how the ADP system worked and to be honest i liked the idea of tying roll frames and distance to a stat, but the investment required was far too high

>>348815148

This desu.
Give him a full game and not the scraps of a game that he has to cob together quickly to salvage the work.

DaS 3 would have been better if Miyazaki fucked off.

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>>348817743
Miyazaki would be fine but only as the level guy and the lore guy.

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The only people who hate DS2 are the people that it was too hard for and it could have only been difficult to complete goons. It's no secret that 99% of souls bandwagoners are too retarded to be playing the series to begin with. DS2 was best of the series.

>>348817707
Fun fact: you can iframe roll every attack in the game at SL1

>Roll through attack
>Take full damage
>Roll doesn't get interrupted

Well gee if I completed the roll why even make me take damage.

>>348814106
He made the better game. Myazaki is a talentless hack.

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>DS2 fags
I honestly don't get you people. Atleast BB dindus have a good game to back up thier shitposting.

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>>348817538
But DaS3 has ebin DeS/DaS throwback and references anon !

>>348817691

Guardbreak is in Dark Souls 3 and it's severly improved as they brought back the kick system with it. Some weapons also cause guardbreak status too.

I'd prefer if I could choose if my character is left handed than how DaS2 does it while having the offhand being the same as the classic games.

What do you mean by two types? There's tons of animations in every single game and DaS3 has the magical parry too.

>>348817762

Now post the Bloodborne and DaS3 ones that there's tons of instances as DaS2 is really bad for this shit and has more Webms against it than anything else.

Also DaS2 has shit fanart god damn. DaS3's dwarves it already.

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>>348817872
Great game*

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>>348817838
>das2 is hard

>>348817857

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you notice how they don't roll sideways in those!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>348817593
But it ran at 60fps which is what so many faggots were whining about with DS1. You can't get 60fps on consoles without making some sacrifices and that's the simple fact of the matter.

Do you want quality or performance? If you own a console, you can NOT have both. Period.

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>>348817951
Get with the times grandpa

>>348817872
>>DS2 fags
they're honestly the loudest and shittiest vocal minority /v/ has ever had

>>348817951
DS2 is harder than DS3 by far.

>>348817951
>he wasnt here when the forest hollows and last giant buttraped v

>>348818028
doesn't mean its not shit

>>348817762
>weapon's special ability literally shoots a cone of energy
>even has a visible graphical representation of it
>"Why did it hit me so far away?!"

You should god back to your nintendo.

>>348818067
My personal favorite. Your tastes are plebeian tier worthless.

>>348818042
been here since '09 my '14 tier newfriend

>>348817762
It's shockwaves you fucking retard!

>>348817876
Wait what?
Are you retarded?
DaS2 is the one referencing literal memes.
DaS3 is a proper sequel.
To a game that should never have a sequel but das2 is horrible in comparison

>>348817951
This is a meme from release day when we didn't understand how agility worked and everyone got their shit rekt trying to roll through things as if the game were actually programmed half decently. DaS2babbies resurrect it every so often to try and pretend their game is good but everyone else just couldn't finish it.

>>348818028
DaS2 was easy as fuck when I played it. Literally 2 shot darklurker (the supposedly hardest boss in the game...) with magic
And you could do that with pretty much every boss.

>>348817998
DaS2 didn't run at 60, not on last gen consoles at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YJPVIA8nmM

>>348818067
Yes, DS3 is shit as well.
Easy, shitty and linear = boring.
Hence it has half the players DS2 had in the same timeframe: >>348815449

>>348818204
DaS1 is also shit btw.

>>348818185
In DS3 I one shot all bosses with a throwing knife.

>>348818204
das2 is shittier than das3 2bh

>>348818194
Correction- If you own a console, you can barely have one.

>>348817762
I don't get this post
Are you pretending to be a DS2 basher or actually bashing it? Because that webm just shows the quality of the hitboxes

>>348815785
>Shit PvP and shit replayability


The heavily linear path and awful PvP is why I haven't played for a couple months.
Just waiting for the DLC for new content.

I would have played more on Caster builds but I guess they decided to make magic fucking trash to cater to who the fuck knows.
So the only builds I have fun with are pure Melee

>>348815449
I feel like a lot of people probably dropped it because they couldn't get their covenant of choice to work.

Hell I have a friend who constantly got kicked back to the start menu because of lost connections and quit the game as soon as he beat it the 1st time.

I used to think DS2 sucked, but then I played DS3 and realized it was a great game, the graphics and maps were kinda shit thou

>>348815778


DeS > DaS2 > BB > DaS3 > DaS1

me > you

@348818452
Not even worthy of a (you)

>>348815449

When was the release date of the Dark Souls 2 DLC?
The 19k (not 20k) is peak, not average. Average is 8k in July and 19 for peak.

Fucking DaS2 fans and their goal posts.

>>348817294
I have no idea. The tiger was a far better boss than him, the series needs more unarmored mobile bosses that actually run the fuck around and have well designed movesets.

>>348818452
i can see no logic in this ranking

holy shit you're a faggot

I don't get this, why do you argue? All souls series are great games!

>>348817762
Watch the weapon durability. See how it drains on attack? That the weapon ability mechanic (was derped into using FP in DS3 instead of durability). That weapon's ability is to shoot a force over distances. It's literally performing as intended, you incompetent goon.

These are the DS2 haters. Literal retards. Which should surprise no one.

>>348815785
People who play souls for the pvp are worse than people who play nintendo party games competitively.

I don't want it cut out because I like invasions but god damn I want this part of the souls fanbase to go back to their mobas.
You genuinely make me sick.

>>348817918
Nooo kick sucks ass compared to guard break, guard break is a guaranteed shield break if it connects. Kick is only good for knocking people off shit for laughs, but then there are much better options.

Ds2 had the normal standing parry and the one where you fall on the ground like a bitch. Every weapon type had its own parry/backstab animation.

>>348818526

The logic is "How much I liked the game overall"

>>348818439
Lighting mods and texture mods can go along way desu.

>>348814106
Nobody knows him, most of the time different times aren't clearly covered either. Nobody bothers to watch the credits aswell.

>>348818531
Except 2

>>348818590
well your taste is retarded

>>348818556
Nigger this is webm made to defend das2.

>>348818452
this would be good bait but its just too obvious

you need to hide it somehow

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>das2fags

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RIP power stance.

>>348818097
kill yourself

the webm is drawing attention to the sunlight spear which goes flying over his head

>this is the das2 defence force
>so braindead they tear themselves apart trying to defend this incongruent mess of a game

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>>348818634

>>348818586

Kick knocks people back and guardbreaks. You should try out the new horsehoof post-June patch in DaS3.

Kick was so good in previous games and I'm glad it's back. Force/shockwave/guardbreak were no fun for knocking off ledges in DaS2.

I see what you mean with the fall now.

>>348818769
Wait is he wearing jet boots? This looks weird.
What is it with the animations in das2? They all have this weird uncanny valley feeling to them.

>>348818452

this would be legit if DaS1 was above 3 and DeS and DaS2 were equal

good ranking tho, i like it

>>348818785
>wtf he ducked under it!
>that shouldn't be allowed!
British, everyone.

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>no Pharros contraptions or some similar mechanic in DS2

Why does the "Ateam" hate fun?

>>348818769
Jesus Christ that's retarded. I liked power stance, but don't post this in an attempt to show it off.
I miss when weapons in souls games felt like the had weight and you didn't act like a fucking anime ninja.

>>348818876
Only a few DLC weapon powerstance ones that are unpolished and look a bit like you're a robot, 99% of player animations are very good.

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>>348818785
>literally wanting the hitboxes to be larger so that missed shots will still do damage

>>348818896
DS3 has literal anime katanas, it's way worse.
And they're OP as hell as well, on top of looking dumb.

>>348818892
>>348819028

I'm not attacking it you fucking idiot

the webm (and myself) were praising it

yet here you come in as the das2 defence force where everyone is attacking your precious baby and no-one understands

neck yourself

>>348819053
They're both fucking retarded.

>>348818860
Did the patch fix this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQOUNx387aM

Because in DaS2 guardbreak would get through this build. Kicks couldn't guardbreak this in DaS3 though.

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>mfw I got a PS4 for BB and played it 10 times more than I did DS3

>>348818769

STAR
WARS
PREQUEL
BULLSHIT

>>348819053

Anime > Star Wars Prequels mo-cap bullshit.

>>348819053
No.

I mean I like the idea behind powerstancing but they obviously can't measure up to properly designed dual weapons like in bb and das3.

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>>348819164
> anime > anything

>>348819153
BB is the best game that isn't weird.
I am saying that as someone defending DaS3.

>>348819153
I played DaS3 for about 3 weeks, then went back to BB. Although I'm losing the will now since I'm having to farm off-shapes.

>>348819153
Nothing weird about that. DS3 is vomit. BB is in a league of its own.

>>348819128
At least the DS2 one requires like 40STR/40DEX to power stance while the other can be done with around 20 dex.

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>>348819248
>Not liking anime

>>348819329
I should hope so with those big fuckass swords, flipping around like a daft bastard.

>>348818860
Yeah I know about horsehoof its just I hate needing a ring to counter shield turtles of all things. Guard break just got rid it all. I wont lie though kick is better than miracles and the like for surprise knock offs. I would like a way to do both.

>>348819248

Anime on average is definitely better than the Star Wars prequels.

>>348819146

Nah they still suffer vs heavy shields and heavy shields should have an advantage (like heavy armour) in some form. I believe these types of builds either got nerfed or demolished by people just keeping a dark/deep/lightning estoc in their inventory.

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>>348819353
>liking anime

>DLC in every souls game has been by far the best content every time now
>even in fucking das2 it was good at times
>despite knowing that people think it is fair to compare the games with dlc and not just vanilla games

We went through the same shit with BB. Why is it happening again with das3?

I like this place but sometimes you are all so fucking retarded.

>>348819406

I think you'll like how long horsehoof staggers someone right now, it allows for more openings rather than a riptose. Darkhand on Int/Faith builds is actually really strong since July.

>>348819028
>>348819126

But quess what? Spell and projectile targeting FUCKING SUCKS ASS in DaS2. In all the other games you can freely aim in a fluid and stepless arc, but in 2 the you can only aim in certain locked angles that snap all over the place, making aiming anything a fucking mess.

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>>348814640
gas das2 fags

Bloodborne was so good because the big M worked on it for multiple years
i say we give the big M until 2019 to come out with another masterpiece

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>>348819508
>darkhand
>viable
Yeah I will be firing 3 up this evening, thanks for that bit of info. Cant wait for the dlc.

>>348819698
That's fine, just release a DeS/DaS HD remaster to hold us over in the mean time.

>>348819809
DaS1 really was the game that needed an overhaul like SotFS

>>348819482
DS3 has the least bosses of all the souls games and 4 of those are nu-bosses.
DS3 is the most linear souls game ever, by far.
DS3 is a DS1-BB frenkentstein with no soul or ideas of its own and relies on nostalgia baiting constantly. (In before weapon arts, L2 weapon arts were in DS2 DLC weapons, they just cost stamina instead)

>>348819884
>nu-bosses.
?

>>348819753

:)

Go pyromancer, SL18-23 +0 upgrades. Use scholar and priestess ring for 19/19 int/fai. Dark clutch ring.

Do something like 320 (splitted) damage on Highwall and your weapon art is insane.

Otherwise for Pyro/Darkie builds Dark hand instead of riptose if viable if you horsehoof kick someone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2yQWJMPu0o

>>348819974

Also if you're worried 14/14 int/faith dark hand is so easy to play through the game. Just don't lock-on versus some bosses. Aldirch is the only difficult boss and you're better off getting a bandit knife/barbed sword with Rogue buff for the bleed for bosses with milk ring for the required dexterity.

>>348819884
Vanilla DaS3 is still better than vanilla das1 and das2.

And yeah it is a sequel it has stuff referencing older stuff. Like seeing gwyn's firstborn.

It had nothing as cringy as the fanservice in das2.
Also the bosses were the best in the series.
I take quality over quantity every time.

I don't mind the linearity because I feel like that was just a trade they had to do.
There is a reason das1 falls apart after about half of it. It is because they ran out of budget and wasted all of it on early interconnectivity.
The early levels are great but I rarely play past O&S except for the dlc.

In a perfect world were game devs have an infinite budget I would be with you and ask for a game to be both super non-linear and have great bosses.
But here in reality it is a question of how much budget you want to spend. DaS3 they decided on less linearity but have the game not fall apart and have better bosses.

Neither option is objectively better. This is about taste.

I like das3 and bb the most exactly because I play these games for the bosses and pve.

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Bloodborne > DS2 > DS3> DS1 > DeS

All games considered with DLC when applicable. This ranking is absolute fact if you hold any other opinion you are literally a fucking potato

>>348819957
Yhorm, Wyvern, Deacons, Wolnir.
Those aren't bosses.

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>>348820235

>>348820278
I get Yhorm and Wyvern.
Deacons and Wolnir I don't get as non-bosses.

>>348820235
DS1 should be above DS3.

>>348820235
>vanilla ranking
BB > DaS3 > DeS > DaS1 >>> DaS2
>with dlc
BB > DaS1 >>> DaS2

>>348820339
Wolnir gets 3 shot by his bracelets, one charged claymore R2 breaks one.
That's a joke, not a boss.
Deacons is easier than pinwheel, another joke.

>>348820443
DS2 > BB > DS1 > DS3 >>>>>> DeS

>>348820550
Horrible taste anon.

>>348820590
Stop giving him replies

Would it be possible for me to enjoy Dark Souls 2 if I've only played 1 and 3 so far?

>>348820153
>nothing as cringy as the fanservice in das2
Andre.
Kirk.
ANOTHER NotMaiden in Black.
Storm Ruler, Thief's Ring, Morion Blade and the rest of the stuff brought back from DeS for no reason.

I'm not saying the fanservice in DaS2 was okay, but DaS3 doesn't even bother hiding the fact that it went full-on nostalgia pandering.

>>348820443
>DaS2 is bad meme

>when you get teleported to the dancer boss fight
>Miyazaki literally grabbing the player and saying, "GO HERE YOU DUMB FUCK"

Meanwhile DS2 and DS1 had item descriptions and NPCs telling you how to enter the giant memories or where to go after the Lordvessel.

WE CALL OF DUTY NOW

>>348820684
Besides graphics 2 is better than 3 so yes.

>>348820726
I agree that is bad. I am on the board that I never want any souls game to have a sequel.
In a sequel I am fine with those things

But in DaS2 we have literal meme fanservice
It referenced solaire being a happy super fun guy when that was just how the fanbase liked him and not how it goes in every game. Even the good ending of his quest, which 99% of players won't get, he is depressed as fuck.
It doesn't reference das1 solaire. It references the meme idea of solaire.

Also the death counter was the first thing I thought of when I think of horrible cringy fanservice in das2.

>>348820443

Vanilla:
DaS > BB > DaS3 > DeS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DaS2

DLC ranking

Old Hunters > Sunken (rehashed bosses or not but this is like 1-#, Berg, Central Yharnam. I love the general progression and ways to go in this area.) > Artorias of the Abyss >>> Ivory >>>>>>>> Old Iron (le two f2p bosses and one is a pursuer ripoff but is le honorable fighter. Also horrible level design even if it's a good vertical concept with the whole idol thing for Fume Knight.)

Dark Souls 2 deserves all the hate it gets.

>>348820803

Holy shit are you kidding me.

>>348820746
>DaS2
>go kill 4 of the most powerful beings in the world
>to get around this knee high wall :^)

>>348814106
Considering he worked on Dark souls 3 with Miyazaki, I don't think so.

The whole 'soul' series is garbage. DaS1 is an unfinished mess that falls apart halfway through the game, while DaS2 is just garbage in every way, shape and form and has no redeeming features whatsoever. DaS3 is only slightly better but still reeks of B-team influence and it's obvious that Miyazaki didn't give a shit about it since he was putting his heart and soul into BB. You can tell the difference as BB is the crowning achievement of video games in at least the last decade, and can be argued to be the pinnacle of gaming itself.

But PCkeks will continue to be assburnt that they'll never play it.

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>>348814939

>>348819153
I replay Bloodborne all the time, just for its single player and coop alone. I've honestly replayed it countless times. Is that weird?

>>348821057
I have 1000 hours in BB, 300 being in Chalices.

>>348818452
nice meme, dipshit

>>348821057
I replay it with different builds, get good gems and then never play them again. Usually just start another build. I enjoy co-op though. And did twink a little when the community was active.

>>348821081
>300 being in Chalices.
why? I hate CDs. do you coop them or what?

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>>348820803
I couldn't believe that after all the "DS3 will be a return to form", it turned out to be the worst.

Miyazaki clearly had to made DS3, unlike BB where he wanted to make it.

>>348821157
>when the community was active.
theres ghosts everywhere when I play, is it really dead?

btw when you see ghosts is that the actual player in his world exactly there and then or is it a lag or something? I ask because I wonder if they see my gestures to them.

>>348821174
No, the random ones are fun to run once in a while since you don't know where every enemy is, unlike the main game.

>>348820964
I agree anon

DaS1 is well designed but horrible mishandled the budget.
DaS2 is horribly designed but managed the budget properly
And das3 is the only bamco souls which is decently designed and handled the budget well.

So it is the only one you can even compare to BB and Demon's.

>>348820235
no, idiot
>vanilla
BB = DaS1 > DeS > DaS3 > DaS2
>with dlc
BB > DaS1 > DeS > DaS2 > DaS3

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>>348821192
>that straight as fuck line from lothric to the capital

>>348821239
You are just seeing a recording of them.

>>348821239
>theres ghosts everywhere when I play, is it really dead?
For low level invading, generally.
You can only invade when there's a bell maiden and the host is lvl 30+. There's only a bell maiden if the host summons AND they haven't killed her.

>>348821192
This. DaS3 being so trash wasn't because Miyazaki, as he didn't want anything to do with it because he had long left Souls behind. He pretty much just half-assed it so he could get back to doing BB2 or whatever he really wanted for Sony.

>>348821324
>DaS1
>equal to BB in any way, shape or form
Nice try, but you can stop pretending that you played BB.

>>348814106
the only person he has to blame is himself

if dark souls 2 was good he wouldnt be there

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>>348821324
>DeS > DS2+DLC

>>348821192
The sad thing is that DaS3 is the best bamco souls game.
I feel sorry for all the people who can't afford or don't want to buy a ps4.

>>348821336
I don't mean the death ones that you trigger, I mean the random ones you sometimes see while playing.

Btw played Demon's Souls the other day and it was fucking full of ghosts too I was kinda amazed.

>>348821415
i massively prefer bloodborne over DaS1, but before dlc they could be considered equal objectively, while DaS1 is unfinished, the first half is godly
>>348821425
Gas DaS2 fags

>>348821528
>I don't mean the death ones that you trigger,
Yes.
I know.
The alive ones are also recordings.

Don't insult me while I answer your question.

Also demon's has a few ghosts that are always there and not actually players.

>>348821554
There's nothing equal about DaS1 and BB. BB is in a completely different league. DaS1 is unfinished as shit while BB is literally perfect the whole way through. You can't compare them.

>>348821324
Pretty much agreed but I find BB to be way ahead the rest. DaS would have been equal had it not fallen off a budgetary cliff.

>>348821554
Calm down, DS2 was just too hard, it happens.
You summon and you "beat" it, that's all that matters, right?

>>348815449
Third soulslike game compared to the sixth (demons, dark, dark 2, lords of the fallen, bb, dark souls 3). By that point everyone has a favourite that they've settled to and the formula is less fresh. At the time of DaS2 it was most people's seconds souls game and expectations were lower. 2 is a much worse game than 3.

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>>348821192
>There will never be an interconnected open world like DS1 ever again.

>>348821641
Chalice Dungeons

>>348821764
>>348818510

>>348821575
>>>/vg/152146953
kek

>>348821641
DS3 = BB vanilla

>>348821764
Then why did more people play at launch if people "just got tired of the formula"?

DS3 is trash and not even in the same category as DS1/2 and BB.

>>348821914
True.
Sort of.
I thought Gameplay in BB was better but maybe that is just different taste.

>>348821837
Chalice dungeons add far more replayability than anything in DaS though, PCkek.

>>348821914
Maybe you should actually try playing BB?

>>348821930
>>348818510

>>348821914
this
DS3 has the exact same virtues in terms of design as BB vanilla, the only fault of both being the lack of equipment.

>>348821829
there might. based miyazaki san is still alive.

>>348822050
BB is my favorite game. It is by far the best.
Chalice dungeons are still dogshit.
Bloodgems are also dogshit.

You called the game perfect. You are wrong.

DeS - 7/10
DS1 - 8/10 +1 with DLC
DS2 - 7/10 +2 with DLC
BB - 9/10 +1 with DLC
DS3 - 5/10

>>348822169
So wrong.
So so wrong.

You should work for IGN

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>>348822074
DS2 peak 3 months after launch ~20K
DS3 peak 3 months after launch ~10K

Miyazaki on suicide watch.

>>348821930
It's basic shit. The series was more deeply established and loved by the time 3 came around. It had more aggressive marketing as well. Most souls fans picked up 3, played it to completion then many didn't take the time to learn weapon/enemy placements or minmaxing to the extent of the others because they already found their favourite. DaS2 was a lot of people's first souls games, 3 wasn't as much.

It doesn't mean 3 is bad- it happens just as much with fighting games. You find your game and you stick with it. You've spent hundreds of hours gaining proficiency in street fighter, why would you jump to MVC and have to learn a whole new set of mechanics when you already know one? Why would I want to start learning chinese when I already know japanese? I have my language-learning fix already.

If 3 came out before 2 there'd be the same people arguing the other way.

>>348822237
ok give an extra point to DS3 for having decent graphics and 5 players in a world at once, it's still an easymode mash fest

>>348822275

5th souls game versus 3rd.

The argument what the other guy said holds up, but the 4th month comparison is retarded.

>>348822354
DaS2 rating is the most offensive there.

>>348815778
BB > DeS = DkS3 > DkS > DkS2

The "all I care about is fast-paced PvE combat" rankings.

>>348822275
When did the dlc release of each game?

It's still hilarious to me that people get autistically butthurt when I say I enjoyed DS2 the most
Never change /v/

>>348822538
You just have bad taste.
If you call pointing that out as "autistical butthurt" why are you even here?

>>348822467
DS2 DLC release was the end of July, DS2 never dropped under 15K in the first 4 months till the DLC.
DS3 has been under 10K since the second month after launch.

>>348822538
it's still hilarious how revisionist /v/ is and how the zelda cycle is so real
literally EVERYEON shat on DS2 before DS3 came out.
Now everyone shits on DS3 and suddenly loves DS2.

Kill yourselves.

>>348822679
Eveyone loved DS2 on launch.

>>348822679
I am still shitting on das2. Most people are still shitting on das2.

I think das3 with the right dlc has the potential to be better than das1. (not bb though)

>>348822679
I always loved DS2, the only thing that upset me was the downgrade.
I just hoped DS3 would be as good as DS2 or BB and not be super easy.
It wasn't even close.

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>>348822739

>>348822316
>Most souls fans picked up 3, played it to completion then many didn't take the time to learn weapon/enemy placements or minmaxing to the extent of the others because they already found their favourite.

This is exactly my experience. DkS3 wasn't a disappointment to me. It was exactly what I expected. It was very good, but it was more of the same, and Bloodborne was better. So I went back to Bloodborne. I actually think it's the 2nd-best game in the series, but I just don't see any reason to play it over Bloodborne.

>>348821641
fair enough, i've spent infinitely more time playing and enjoying bloodborne and have many more memories with it
that and i still play bloodborne whereas i don't dark souls

>>348814106
>b-team
The ds2 team is the same as the ds1 one, without miyazaki. The only different team was the Bloodborne team.

>>348815778

DaS3 > DaS2 > DaS > BB > DS

>>348822739
:^)

I remember waiting for the game to 'grow on me' for my entire (and only) 40 hour playthrough.

It never did.

>>348820503
>Wolnir has exploitable weakness you have to figure out, once you do, you win
>This is somehow bad design

I guess you must have hated DeS then.

>>348822169
DeS 9/10
DS1 8/10 + 1 with dlc
DS2 4/10 + 3 with dlc not because of good dlc but because of how much it helped the bad game
BB 10/10 +3 best game best dlc
DS3 5/10 slightly better than ds2

>>348823030
Yes, DeS is a very boring game to play more than once.
That's why it's the weakest souls game.

>>348822964
>The ds2 team is the same as the ds1 one, without miyazaki. The only different team was the Bloodborne team.
that's completely bullshit.

DaS1 team, with Miyazaki in the lead, started working on BB right after DaS1. During that time B-Team worked on DaS2. When finishing DaS2, B-Team started working on DaS3, with Miyazaki working on both BB and DaS3 at the same time as lead on both teams.

>>348822964
Well how important are directors for videogames?

If you said the same about a movie this would be considered a joke.
Of course a movie with the same team but a different director is going to be wildly different.

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>>348823002
>DS3 higher than anything
>Demon's Souls that low
is this bait?

>>348822578
>My opinion > your opinion

What's autistic are the rants and shitposting whenever someone says they enjoy the game

>>348823082
>BB is a 13/10 game

Okay now we are going a little far here.

Also DaS3 is the closest to vanilla BB.
That is why I have high hopes for das3 dlc because the old hunters was amazing.
How can you love bb and hate das3?
What did you love about BB if not the good bosses and gameplay? The setting?

>>348823160
I guess I'll have to wait until the next Fromsoftware's ARPG gets released before I can rank DS3 as being the best one without any negative repercussion.

Happened with BB.

>>348823257
>people on a videogame board discuss videogames
>sometimes they type more than one line
>I am just going to call that a rant

You are level 10 retarded. Go away.
I think you would prefer twitter as your videogame discussion website.

>>348822827
same

>>348823338
You're getting mad at nothing dude

>>348822827
I hated das2 and thought das3 was the best.
I tried so hard to like das2 and didn't have to try with das3.

But both were disappointments.

DaS2 was a disappointment compared to das1 and das3 was a disappointment to BB.
Now I think that makes DaS3 far better. Because it is a disappointment compared to the far better game.
But at the end of the day it doesn't matter.
I rather play BB than DaS3 in the same way I rather played DaS1 than DaS2.

>>348822679
The Zelda cycle analogy is somewhat erroneous;
It's not that people acknowledge earlier titles are good, in as much as they compare favourably to the latest pile of shit the developers have shat out.

Zelda eg. Twilight Princess was a thoroughly mediocre game, but compared to the complete wank that is Skyward Sword it doesn't seem so back in retrospect does it?

DS2 was a decent game, even if it paled in comparison to DS1, but DS3 is somehow even worse so relatively speaking 2 is the better of the two. That said, there's still a colossal gulf between DS1 and DS2.

>>348823632
Nobody is ever mad on the internet.
I could post in all caps and it wouldn't change how deadpan I am sitting here.

Did you ever get mad over stuff on the internet? No? Then why assume other people do?

>>348823687
DaS3 is better than DaS2.
It pales in comparison to BB

I think that is what you meant.
Without bb there would be no question here.

>>348822679
I still hate DkS2 and like DkS3, though.

>>348823160

No, I am dead serious. I rank DaS3 the highest because the base game is objectively better than base DaS and base DaS2. From has a good record when it comes to DLC and once DaS3 has had all its DLC's, you will see a lot of people rating it higher too on /v/, I am just ahead of the curve.

As for why DS is ranked the lowest, because it has aged like shit and the setting is less immersive, epic and depressing than DaS universe.

As for Bloodborne, the gameplay rivals that of DaS3, so do the bosses, but the setting is inferior to that of DaS universe imo, knights > victorian top hatters. If somebody prefers the setting and world of Bloodborne over that of Dark Souls, then obviously for them Bloodborne would be number 1.

>>348823687
>but DS3 is somehow even worse so relatively speaking 2 is the better of the two
fucking lel
how is DS3 worse?
>better boss fights BY A HUGE FUCKING MARGIN
>better designed areas
>better graphics
>better OST
>better modeled equipment (just look at Faraam's armor between ds2 and 3)
The only thing DS3 lacks is equipment variety, which will come naturally with DLCs.

>>348823669
For me it's more simple:
Can you mash roll in DS1 and DS2 and dodge most attacks? No it's suicide because less stamina.
Can you mash roll in DS3 and dodge most attacks? Yes because rolling barely costs stamina.

This plus the linearity and mostly terrible bosses besides the end game ones killed the game for me.

>>348823160
Demon's souls is objectively the worst souls game.

>>348823850
I think you are mostly right but I still think BB is the better action game. Even stripped of the setting comparing both games BB just plays so much better.
Not that das3 is bad mind you.

Also setting discussion sort of comes down to taste so you are free to ignore what follows.
BUT FUCK YOU
I AM FUCKING SICK OF DRAGONS AND KNIGHTS.
IT IS THE MOST OVERUSED PIECE OF SHIT SETTING. MEDIEVAL FANTASY IS EVERYWHERE.
FOR YOU TO HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CRITICIZE THE SETTING OF BLOODBORNE WHILE EVERY OTHER SHIT GAME IS MEDIEVAL FANTASY MAKES ME WANT TO CHOKE YOU. WITH A DRAGON DILDO SINCE YOU LOVE THESE THING SO MUCH.
FUCK YOU.
EVEN JUST IN THE SOULS SERIES YOU HAVE EVERY OTHER GAMES WITH KNIGHTS AND DRAGONS.

>>348818028
Fuck no, by virtue of the bosses alone.

>>348823907
but muh pvp

>>348822679
>literally EVERYEON shat on DS2 before DS3 came out

You forgot the part where I asked on /v/ if I should buy DS2 when it came out on consoles and got a massive "fuck yes" in response.

Wasn't disappointed, it was a solid game.

>>348823986
I think das3 hit the perfect middle in some regards.
DaS1 for example had to lax enemy tracking.
You complain about rolling but in das1 the easiest fucking strategy for everything is to just run to the side and backstab it. Because they move so slow.
DaS2 tried to remedy that. They overshot a little. And with a little I mean enemies turned like they were standing on records. So even if you had an opening and quickly got to their backs their just turned like crazy.

DaS3 is perfect IMO. They turn fast enough so you can't just spam it but not too fast enough so you never have the openings.

>>348823817
Haven't played BB so I can't really comment.
But I maintain that DeS is still the best game in the series.

>>348823907
You're right about most of those things, but (between 2 and 3) DS2 ultimately wins out because of novelty.
Say what you want about 2, but at least the B team experimented somewhat; a good sequel jumps off from the original while a bad one revels in it. Some things DS2 did worked, others didn't- most egregiously Soul Memory, but DS3 trod much the same ground as 1 and with the puny weapon variety I grew bored of the game orders of magnitude more quickly than 2.

>>348824512
>a good sequel jumps off from the original while a bad one revels in it
You know who you are quoting?
You know the irony of quoting that in a fucking souls discussion?

>>348824381
I defended DS2 for two long years while getting shit on for it, and now that it is perfectly ok to like DS2, I decided to start pointing its flaws, and I now I get shit on for doing it.

Why do I do this to myself?

>>348824229

Hmm, yeah, lets hope the new dark fantasy ARPG From Software is working has a unique setting.

>>348824607
Because you actually like having a discussion with multiple points of view instead of downvoting people who don't have popular opinions, as they do on a certain website.

>>348824442
I never felt in danger in DS3 till I got to Dragon Shrine, 90% of any fucks ups before that were fixerd with roll spam and R1 spam.

In DS2 you could see yourself running out of stamina and literally say "I'm fucked" moments before you died.
Barely had any of that in DS3.
Rolling should cost x2 the stamina it costs now for DS3 to be like the other 2 games in terms of difficulty.

>>348824512
>a good sequel jumps off from the original while a bad one revels in it
Okay so like lets say a beloved character like ornstein
A good sequel would make something different (like the dragonslayer armor) out of it
And a bad sequel would just take the asset and dump it into the next game.

Are you honestly making a case for DaS2 and not 3 here?
DaS2 wallowed the most in it.

>>348824763
I died the least in das2? what was your first souls game? Mine was demons
So by the time I played das2 I was already good at these games.
Maybe you started with das1 and that is why das2 was still a challenge and das3 wasn't anymore?

Because all of them are piss easy for anyone who didn't start playing videogames after gen 6.

The difficulty argument is beyond retarded.

>>348824767
>one optional boss

Shall we talk about the Abyss Walkers?

>>348824512
>a good sequel jumps off from the original while a bad one revels in it
I must ask: did you even play ds2?

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>>348814403
most likely B team is on the new game until Miyazaki finishes the souls DLC

>>348824980
I mean we can talk about the abyss walkers.

It is a retreat of Artorias. Right? That is your argument?

Because artorias was a group fight. Or had a second phase in which he had different moveset.

I liked the abyss walkers more than artorias.
You wanna talk about Lost sinner? A boss that is just a worse version of artorias. Way worse.

>>348825163
Well Lost Sinner is a wench with adds. Not exactly the same thing.

>>348825273
>adds

Wait what?

Ignoring the stupidity of saying the abyss walkers are a ripoff even though they are several with some of them even being wild cards who can fight for you and some adds make Lost Sinner not a ripoff.

Lost Sinner didn't have adds.

>>348825509
>Lost Sinner didn't have adds

Confirmed for not having played the game. I guess it's settled.

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>>348825574
Just checked on youtube to make sure I wasn't crazy.
Lost sinner does not have adds.

Are you sure you are thinking of the right boss.

>>348818149
If you weren't in the 2008 DeS hype threads, you are not a trve Souls Veteran.

>>348824887
DS1 was first, I died the most there.
DeS second, somewhat easy.
DS2 is the hardest.
BB slightly under DS2, rolls/dashes were too good.
DS3 under BB, same as above.

Even early DS2 and BB bosses had their way with me till I got used to the new mechanics and roll timings, DS3 just felt like a BB mod with no guns.

DS3 had the most bosses and minibosses I beat on first try as well, including Gundyr, Vordt, the Outrider Knight, not Asylum Demon, Deacons, Crystal Sage, Wolnir, Yhorm.