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Does anyone else remember people on here saying that the Bloodborne

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Does anyone else remember people on here saying that the Bloodborne load times couldn't be improved by a patch because "a patch can't improve hardware"?

I think that was one of the lowest points of this board's history.
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/v/ is a Nintendo/PC board so people lied about / shitposted against Bloodborne. The truth is, /v/ is jealous that they can't play BB without giving Sony money. Now they shitpost it calling it "an inferior Dark Souls clone", when the Souls community's opinion on it can't be farther from that.

I'm not going to deny I'm jealous too; I wish I could play BB on PC. But, From has always been a Sony third party so it can't be helped. What a shame. That said, I will never shitpost a game I haven't played.
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>>323566409
/thread
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They didn't improve the hardware they just went into the graphics settings and lowered the games texture resolution/draw distance you fucking retard.

Of course you blind consoletards don't notice when playing
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>>323566610
This is what asspained actually believes
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>>323566610
Epic XD
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>>323566610
So how did you "notice" this lie if you didnt play the fucking game?
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>>323566610
never ever
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>>323566409
I bought a Bloodborne Machine just to play it.

I don't regret it as there isn't any Xbone exclusives I was interested in so PS4 was my console while I mainly use PC.
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IT'S NOT FAIR
no honestly being a pc user that loves these from games it fucking sucks not being able to play BB. I'm not about to buy a Bloodbornestation 4 to play it though
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buttery smooth
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So, as a matter of genuine curiosity, how much did they end up improving the load times, and have they publicly announced what they optimized?
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>>323569397
I'm not sure by how much exactly, but it was a massive improvement

Before the update if you died you could go get a drink and come back to still see the load screen
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>>323569090
You PC gamers don't deserve action games like BB or the other Souls games.
You only care about frames per second, graphics and "muh story, muh lore", not about games themselves.
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>>323569397
I played unpatched version after getting the game this Christmas (thanks to PSN being slow as fuck making it unable to confirm the email) and the different is very noticeable. Dropped from like 40 seconds to 10. Still a bit long, but obviously qute a difference in comparison to what was before.
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>>323569561
Come on man. No need to be rude like that.

He wasn't shitting on the game
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>>323569397
Load times pre patch could be around 40 seconds longs. Now they are like 15-20.
They also added item descriptions on the screens so that helped. Before it was just a black screen that said Bloodborne.
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I remember a lot of things /v/ said about Bloodborne.
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>>323569675
Consolewar/console vs. PC shitposting is the worst, but this thread is a prime candidate for it (or was intentionally designed to provoke it) so it's no surprise.
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>>323569759
I love how everytime some intern used a Bloodborne screenshot for a laptop ad /v/ shit themselves screaming PC won
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>>323569561
I will tell you what pissed me off as a PCuck playing DaS.
The mouse is absolutely dogshit in panning camera view, and intercepting DXInput through say DSMousefix gets you softbanned.

I shouldn't have to waste so much time to remap buttons to a gaymin mouse in order to make the experience enjoyable, but lolnope. I still did it anyways.

In during I legitimately am playing DaS for the gameplay, not to 60fps1080p.
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>a patch can't improve hardware
It can't you fucking retard
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>>323569397
death reload times were significant - down to max 10 seconds. Before reloads could be a minute in central yarnahm.

Loading into central yarnahm still takes like 30 seconds, before it was a minute.
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>>323570012
That gets you softbanned?

I use CE all the time for fun runs and custom bodies and still play online just fine.
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>>323570012
Are you talking about Dark Souls 2/Dark Souls 2 apology edition? Because I have nearly 2000 hours in Dark Souls and can assure you that literally nothing you can do in PC Dark Souls will get you banned.

>>323570067
OP's point (stated in the most incendiary manner possible) was that improving the hardware wasn't the only way the developers could reduce load times.
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>>323569090
This is the strangest mentallity to me.
I don't find it unfair that I couldn't play various PS3 games because I didn't have one. I didn't buy that system, how is it not fair that I don't get to play games made specifically for that system?
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>>323570214
It's DaS2.
I am less angry about DaS overall. The menu may be shittier than DaS2, but FROM doesn't fuck with me like that. Original Dark Souls is the better game and I regret buying Dark Souls 2.
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>>323569675
Things need to be said.
You can create the most boring and unfun game in the world; as long as it has high quality shadows, realistic looking pubes and runs at 666 frames per second, PC gamers will praise. Meanwhile a competent, fun to play game will be reviled because it was locked at 30 fps.
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>>323570341
>how is it not fair that I don't get to play games made specifically for that system?
Because people feel entitled to literally anything they want.
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Has Bloodborne overthrown Bayonetta 2 as the official shitpost game?
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>>323570489
Crysis was the best benchmark program I've ever own. I am being serious on this one.
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>>323570489
There's no way you can justify rampant overgeneralization of the entire userbase of a computing platform that way. Whether you sincerely believe what you're saying or you're just shitposting, your position is untenable either way.
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>>323570661
Nothing can really rival Undertale.
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>>323570661
There was never any question
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>>323570489
This is true because /v/ actually says Crysis is a great shooter game.
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>>323570661
Without a doubt.
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>>323570724
>Undertale

I'm just kidding, it does spark a lot of fighting with even just saying the name
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>>323566409
Personally, I'm not jealous, I'm just mad.

I wanna play that game but buying a ps4 is a fucking disgrace. I'll do it eventually tho, and that saddens me.
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>>323570661
In modern times it's Undertale >>> BB >>>>>>> Bay when it comes to official shitposting.
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>>323570884
It's really good Anon. When you are able I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

At least you have DaS3 coming to look forward too
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>>323570692
The Witcher series is an unfun borefest ("go, talk to NPC A; then go to the next town and talk to NPC B; depending to the dialog choice you should go to to this cave in the middle of nowhere and talk to NPC C or go back to NPC A's town so you can talk to NPC D") and it's one of the most praised PC games. Same with pseudogames like Gone Home or Telltalle's The Walking Dead.

That alone proves my point. PC gamers don't deserve, don't need and don't want "videogamey" games.
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>>323566409
Same for all consoles idiot, next to no one is going to get every single console, add this up with a group of neckbeards and bam. A hate machine filled with jealousy and anger.

I'm going to get a PS4 when it's a bit cheaper, like next black Friday. With that adding up I've got every single handheld and console.

Yes, I've got too much cash and I still find some games too interesting / fun to pass on.

Fuck paying for two paywalls though, ain't doing that shit.
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>>323565652
SHUT UP
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>>323569561
My god just shut the fuck up
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>>323571069
Dark Souls 3 is going to be far, far worse than Dark Souls 2.
The thing is clearly something From rushed in six months so they can end their three-games contract with Namco Bandai. I can see it being as short and mediocre as fucking Lords of the Fallen.
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>>323571089
Can't argue with that "logic".
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BB wasn't that good, I haven't even bought the DLC because I know I'm never going to touch the game again once I beat it, but I love making PC-only losers salty as fuck
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>>323565652
And all it did was to cut the loading times from 1 minute to 50 seconds. Oi vey
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>>323566409
>/v/ is a

Opinion discarded, /v/ is massive and encompasses so many people that you legitimately wouldn't believe it, it is not a refuge for some group of fanboys.

Bloodborne got shat on because it was and still is the only notable current gen console game, and it was easy pickings for trolls. All they had to do was say something stupid regarding it and retards like you would flock to the threads, free replies. I'm sure the game is great but that doesn't matter to the kind of person who just wants to shit up /v/, they want replies and will do anything to get them.
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>>323571235
No, dark souls 3 has been in production since before 2 and BB
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>>323571089
PC gaymin beats consoles silly on games that simply cannot be played on a controller. That is something you refuse to consider as games. Titles such as Euro Truck simulators and Flight simulator X are examples of this.

On the flip side, there are shitheads like myself who love playing console games on PC because I don't like controller mapping (such as skyrim) and don't like to play it as a "videogame" since I mod it with animu bewbs (again Skyrim.) The other thing is that I am playing the shitty Neptunia on PC because I absolutely hate the Vita handheld "video game" experience.

I guess you are actually right, although I am not doing it for the 60fps1440p or 60fps4k.

Here's me reposting how pleb my taste is. Behold using the meme controller with Neptunia on fucking Win10.
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>not having a PS4, an Xbone, and a gaming PC
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
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>>323571235
The development of DaS3 started before DaS2 was even planned as the game.
DaS3 was initially going to be the second game in the series, but then Miya was assigned to BB (before he became the president), the project was frozen and another project (Shibuya's version of DaS2) was initiated. Later, as we know, Shibuya fucked up and was scorned for making a game that's not souls and Yui was assigned to salvage as much as possible, but that's a whole another story.
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>>323571656
>Xbone
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>>323571656
>not also owning a Wii U, Vita, and 3DS

Amuses me to no end that poorfags try so hard to justify their single purchases
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I love how ridiculous the most common complains about From Software are.


>Another Souls game? why are they milking the Souls series? REEEEEEEE

>King's Field had four mainline games and its spinoff Shadow Tower had two
>Armored Core had 12 entries
>Another Century's Episode is basically an Armored Core game starring Anime mechas and got five titles
>Why is Bloodborne a Playstation exclusive? Why aren't they developing exclusively for PC? REEEEEEEEE

>King's Field: Playstation, Playstation 2
>Tenchu: Playstation, Playstation 2
>Armored Core: Playstation, Playstation 2, Playstation 3
>Demon's Souls: PS3
>Dark Souls: PS3, XBOX 360

A lot of this started with DaS's PC port.
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>>323571656
>>323571759
Not everyone can be that much of an idort.
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If that's a "low poiht" you must be new as hell. This place pushes flimsy as shit lies all the time in order to continue shitposting.
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>still being this upset
fucking poorfags smdh
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>>323571474
>>323571687
>3 started before 2
>Believing gossip / source-lacking bullshit

Whatever helps you sleep at night
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>>323571913
>>323571656

I am still a little angry that I shelled out $200 just to be able to play MH4U. Sure, I can play the DS games, but only the Layton series are of any remote interest to me.
The age of multiplat has taken a lot out of having PS and Xboxes. That's how it's been for me.
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>>323571687
source?
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>>323571385
>Bloodborne got shat on because it was and still is the only notable current gen console game,

Wii U has plenty, and the PS4 has a few others. Even the Xbone has some if you're into fightan games, racing, or Halo.
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>>323572351
His ass, of course.
He's that desperate to believe that DaS3 (the one he can play) is going to be better than BB (the one he can't play).
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Load times have been patched down significantly but the microstutter persists even to this day.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-bloodborne-performance-analysis

>Though its 30fps average is technically correct, Bloodborne often produces two unique frames followed by two duplicates - rather than one after another - creating a perception of frame-rate drops throughout. It's not smooth in motion at all as a result, and frame-time updates swing erratically between 16ms and 66ms - and sometimes higher.

It's good the game is faster paced than Dark Souls, because playing with this lag in that kind of combat would be infuriating.
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>>323572446
I seriously hope that DaS3 is not going to suck.
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>>323572446
>mfw the incoming impasse where you can't say DaS3 is better than BB or vice versus without getting called a shill, PCfat, and/or sonyyger

Gonna cash in on all those (you)'s hard
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>>323572656
It's going to suck, big big time. And I talk as someone who liked DaS2 almost as much as DaS.
The biggest red flag for me was how the game was announced out of the blue a few months before its official release, just like Fallout 4.
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>>323572806
...BB was announced the exact same way retard
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>>323572656
I don't think it will. DaS2 sucked due to very specific problems they had during development and I doubt it will happen again with 3.
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>>323572679
Don't forget how, as Dragon's Dogma demonstrated the last few days, you can get lots of (you) by baiting both the Pro and Anti piracy camps.
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>>323572806
>The biggest red flag for me was how the game was announced out of the blue a few months before its official release

The game has been in development since before Bloodborne. The overlapping development schedule with Bloodborne meant they had to promote Bloodborne first, wait until that was wrapped up, then talk about Dark Souls 3. It's just bad business to announce a better product while you're still trying to sell the old one.
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>>323572656
same here
but soon(tm) we will know
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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-interview-this-is-a-turning-point-for/1100-6429569/
For all you faggots.
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>>323572806
>>323572923
The stress test didn't look like it was spewing with reused asset. I don't know. The only consolation so far is that 'pro' game reviewers have been talking this game down.

>but the shared building blocks have smudged the Dark Souls identity into Bloodborne’s, and the result felt distractingly similar.
>It all feels very familiar. But isn’t it supposed to? Dark Souls is a series about vicious cycles.
~Gamespot, 2015.
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>>323571912
/thread
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>>323566409
this is rugga as hell
it's been years and you're still spamming the same shit
grow up already
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>>323566409

Wow, someone on /v/ who plays video games regardless of platform.
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>>323565652
Who gives a shit what you think. It's just a FROMshit game.
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>>323570067
Oh my fucking lord that's not the point you clown
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>>323572923
No. Bloodborne was announced almost a year before release, and it had been under development since 2012.
Meanwhile Dark Souls 3 was announced six months before its release date, and given how they just finished two big titles (Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne and more recently the Old Hunters DLC), there is no way they didn't start DaS3's development around the time of the announcement.

Even if you liked all the games preceding it (Demon's, Dark 1 and 2, Bloodborne), it's safe to steer away from 3.
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I'm just happy that the slant eyes are starting on a new IP so the Souls/BB autists will dwindle down to nothing soon.
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>>323573337
Do you think Ruggarell would accept he games on PC, even for shitposting purposes?
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>>323571235

>Sonycucks actually believe this

Cry all you want souls three will make bb irrevalent
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>>323573773
It was stated in the interview that the development started around the time they were designing DLCs for DaS2.
The link is even in the fucking thread.
Of course, game directors can (and more often than not will) lie since PR is also a part of their job, but it's literally the only piece of information we have regarding DaS3 development.
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>>323569518
>you could go get a drink and come back to still see the load screen

More like you could mix an entire cocktail and still come back to the loading screen.
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>>323573986
Cuckarell was always a loser, nobody cares. Any info on him IRL btw?
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>>323574052
Isn't BB and Souls going to remain distinct by having Souls play at a slower pace and you being punished if you are rash about things?
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>>323573773
BB was announced at E3 2014 and released that following March following a delay from February.
DaS3 was announced at E3 2015 and is slated for March-April release in Japan then everywhere else.

Stop being autistic and thinking development only started after BB was finished
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>>323574305
It's mid-march for PS4 Japan and April the 12th for everyone else worldwide, correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>323571543
Look at your girly hands lmao noice controller welcome to the club
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>PC gamers crying that they don't get to play this on PC
>You know 90% of /v/ would just pirate it instead of paying for it anyways.
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>>323574245

Not him but this is how it's gonna work

Sony users: Will shitpost dark souls 3 calling it the worst game even before it releases in order to try to pretend bloodborne is relevant.

Pc users: wWll call dark souls 3 the best in series without playing bloodborne.

However souls 3 being the most recent in game and multiplat will be more popular. Sony users will attempt to shitpost threads about it in furious anger while claiming bb is the best game. Sort of like they did with demons.
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>>323574438
DS4 actually fits my tiny asian hands even better, but the elite is the better controller.
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>>323571385
>>/v/ is a
>Opinion discarded, /v/ is
Opinion discarded again
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>>323574520
Noice mate
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>>323574052
Nah, it's slower paced and more passive
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>>323574475
People pirating soulsgames are a minority since the unique multiplayer system is what made the games popular in the first place.
If DeS didn't have that, we'd have probably never gotten DaS1 let alone DaS2, BB or DaS3.
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>>323574475
>buying a game i already own
try again to jew me
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>>323574052
I-I enjoy all the Soul/borne games...

I just to have fun and maybe play with Anons when I can ;_;
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>>323574727
>>323574475
Pirating a souls game is pure idiocy. The ones who pirate it will never know what it means to git gud and being hopelessly lost when confronted with Sunbro + Giantdad shitposts.
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>>323565652
To be fair, a patch can not improve hardware. It can, however, improve how that hardware accesses the game's data, which can result in faster load times.

Patches can't improve hardware but they can improve optimization.
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>>323574114
Let's check:

Demon's Souls: started development in 2006, being released in February 2009. It had almost three years on development and it was a great game, establishing the foundations of the series.
Dark Souls's development started around March 2009 and was released in september 2011 - almost three years and while good and arguably better than Demon's it was still a rushed title.
Dark Souls 2's development started around December 2012, being released in March 2014. One year and a bit, the game was an absolute piece of shit.
Bloodborne's development started around August 2012, being released on March 2015. Almost three years of development, ended being the best game in the series.

So, DaS3 started development around July 2014. Release date - April 2016. That gives it less than two years. Far less time than its predecessors, and its developer was still busy with other projects (SOTFS, The Old Hunters).


There is no way Dark Souls 3 isn't going to be garbage.
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its not like 300 bucks is a lot in 2016
jesus christ

if it was 599 AND we'd be in 2007/2008 then yeah, I'd understand the issue of it being an exclusive

but right now a console that will last you 8 years costs HALF of what your average highend smartphone
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What is it with /v/ caring so much about meme games?
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>>323575227
Don't say that about a Soul title with true meme such as Neptunia floating around.
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>>323574519
>Sony users: Will shitpost dark souls 3 calling it the worst game even before it releases in order to try to pretend bloodborne is relevant.
i'm idort and i already do that , you know why?
because i played the fucking network alpha you mentally challenged retard
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>>323575227

because meme did meme and because of meme it just happened to be a very meme like, it's not like any other meme would have been THIS butthurt desu
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>>323574475
Indeed; just look at Dragon's Dogma right now.
Two months from now I can see Capcom complaining about how disappointing the sales for the PC port were while said port leads the top ten most pirated games of 2016.
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>>323575334
All of Dark Souls, including BB are meme games. Sorry.
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DiiLiiTE THiiS
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The people who played dark souls 3's network alpha already confirmed that the game played worse than release dark souls 2.
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>>323571687
>The development of DaS3 started before DaS2 was even planned as the game.
Yeah no shit theyve ben reusing the same assets for 7 years
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>>323565652
as long as sonyggers are still smug like you this board will be the worst of all and in one of its neverending lowpoints
thank you sonygger
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>>323575558
No, please, dark souls 3 is one of the only games I'm looking forward to. Don't do this to me.
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>>323571474
>they started 3 before 2
Nigger what the fuck are you on how does that even possibly work.
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>>323565652

No the lowest point was when sonyggers pretended their shitty dark souls spin off polly pocket casual edgy shit game for kiddos that was literally demanded by sony and never an actual idea of from software that actually hates gore shit demonstrated by the moltitudes of miyazaki interviews on the subject, they just obliged because they are clearly retarded with coding and needed SCE to help them improve their engine for later proper souls games, just like they did back for demon's souls and Atlus, but of course the concept of tactical economic move is something that never even passed between your single synapse, did it? You never asked yourself why dark souls 3 was ready so quickly after bloodborne did you, you actually thought that poor marketing strategy for ps4 would actually match actual souls games with substance, you faggots don't care about games, you just like sales numbers, flaunting exclusives you don't care about on forums and always playing the victim when you are widely know as the biggest cancer on the internet immediately after horse fuckers and furfags, you are the scourge of videogames, you are the faggots that treat corporations like religious establishments, you are the ones that worship people that do what they do just to take your money, you lick the hands of those that steal cash from you each month of the year that you think you can't live without ps plus, you are mindless drones, and for that I am sorry for you.

actually im not lololololol keep eating shit faggots
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>>323572047

>miyazaki falt out saying it is not gossip source lackin bullshit

why dont u kill urself
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>>323575672
Sorry but you need to face the harsh truth. The thing was an absolute shitfest. It felt so wrong, even with the weapon arts.
If you don't believe me go ask /dsg/ or search for the threads made by the rest of people who was able to participate on it.
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>>323575719
Not entirly impossible. Bloodborne was being worked on during the Artorias of the Abyss DLC.
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>>323576050
>Implying that isn't PR talk
I bet they're coding bosses and levels right now; the thing is going to be as short as lords of the fallen.
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>>323575558
First of all I think you're full of shit so show me these people and where they shared their opinions.

Second, why should I care what they think?
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>>323575558
>>323575672
>playing dark souls on a console
haahahahahahaahahhahahaa
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>>323576087
If they were working on it before two it should be fucking two. Why would they ignore what they are all ready working on to throw out something they weren't?
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>>323576174

holy shit let me get my tinfoil hat sir fagalot, you lost your lance lol
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>>323566409
I can both used. Therefore sony gets no money for me. Now what?
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No.
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>>323575941
>you are widely know as the biggest cancer on the internet immediately after horse fuckers and furfags, you are the scourge of videogames, you are the faggots that treat corporations like religious establishments, you are the ones that worship people that do what they do just to take your money, you lick the hands of those that steal cash from you each month of the year that you think you can't live without ps plus, you are mindless drones, and for that I am sorry for you.

I hope this is not a pasta, because this is really well spoken.
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>>323575558
Played the Network stress, the only thing wrong with DaS3 was the fact that PvP could only be conducted in specific areas during the stress test of Lotric, everything else ran far more beautiful and fluid than DaS2 by leagues.
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>>323576227
>Playing a console-centric console-focused series on a console

Shocking!
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>>323566610
I noticed this too.
Game looked pretty different after I applied the patch, but it was worth not dealing with the loading time.

>>323569090
Just wait for Ps4 is ~200
or borrow/rent one or go make friends
it's a good game

>>323570341
>>323570496
Don't act like exclusivity isn't only used to sell system. It's wasted on PS4, only 7% of ps4 owners even have this game, and only 11% beat the first boss. It's exclusivity made it niche, and the only reason it remains so is to sell units. I do appreciate Sony for letting Miyazaki make another game though.
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>>323575941
Hahahaha holy shit how can anyone be this butthurt xDDD
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>>323573238
>spewing with reused asset.
did you play the stress test?
>copy pasted greastsword animations from ds1
>copy pasted rolling/running from ds1
>exact same fucking sounds from des/ds1
it had tons of reused assets, still going to buy it but come on.
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>>323576227
Beta wasn't for PC.
And it's capped for 30 for pc.
But I'm getting it for PC because someone somewhere will fix it again.
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>>323576642
lol?

how is dark souls either of those things.

It plays better on PC. So unless you enjoy sub-par versions of things, you're a tard.
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>>323574519

Are you kidding? It's going to follow the same cycle as everything does on 4chan. Day 1-2 will be extreme positivity, then when the bandwagon starts rolling everyone will turn on it and call it absolute shit, and will continue to do so till the next Fromsoft game comes out, when everyone will claim to have liked it all along and that the new one is shit in comparison.
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>>323575941
>FROM hates Gore
>Are in love with Berserk
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>>323576943
Source for fixed to 30 on PC?

FUCK.
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>>323577015
>>323576440
>>323576858
I don't know why you idiots replied to this wall of shitposting.
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>>323571089

>pseudogames
>Telltalle's The Walking Dead
>PC gamers don't deserve, don't need and don't want "videogamey" games.

That's not even autistic. That's just stupid. That's a legitimate dismissal of perfectly good intelligence in favour of saying the dumbest thing possible.
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>>323577009
You could have just said Zelda Cycle like literally everything goes through now because everyone wants to be contrarian 14 year old hipsters.

Bloodborne gets shit on now but the moment DaS3 comes out, Bloodborne will be the new classic.
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>>323577081
Because I'm on /v/ faggot, where else would I reply to shitposting? /tv/ and /pol/?
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>>323577069
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168566-dark-souls-iii/72012363
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3kgxie/ps4_user_explains_why_dark_souls_3_at_30fps_on_pc/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkSouls2/comments/3a7gga/dark_souls_3_is_literally_dark_souls_15/

couldnt find an article that wasnt about the first game
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>>323576572
So, we're back to Dark Souls 1?
wow so improvement much advancement
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Any tips for offline Rom? Her spiders are damage sponges and Rom keeps kicking my ass with her spells.
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I mean 60 seconds to 45 seconds is an improvement, but it's still fucking atrocious, and no where near acceptable.
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>>323577293
>Dark Souls 3 is basically Dark Souls 1.5

I fucking knew it.
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>>323577353
Roll when you see her cast, keep an eye on her.
The spiders should die in one hit.
Boost HP if it's your first time.
Take care of babies first.
Hit as hard as you can, not it's head,.
Do optional areas if you want to levle beforehand, killing ROM locks you out of a lot of stuff. Do Ya Ghul (sp?) because it will change later.

>>323577456
I didn't even bother leveling up because of this shit. Two loading screens?fuck that

>>323577531
This is a good thing imo.
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>>323577353
Dont attack the spiders

Find a opening where you can put a few hits on Rom in then back out and repeat.
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>>323577353
I feel like blitzing is the best way to handle Rom. Remember you can still do damage while Rom is teleporting.
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>>323577304
Pretty much yeah. The strength based class' trick to it, at least with the Axe it had was that it gave it a 20% buff to damage by using mana. Didn't seem to stack at all however. Music was great, Lotric felt and looked great, had your typical "Here is a Drake that lands and breathes fire guys", a Frost Knight that ran on all fours, and the boss moved with some grace, which was surprising considering it was a Dancer.
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>>323577293
none of those say 30fps on PC.

Just 30fps confirmed for PS4 and Xbone.
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>>323577672
I think I've taken care of all the other areas I could go to, including Ya ghul with the lighting beast, and the Witches. I think I'll add a elemental gem to my Kirk Hammer
>>323577749
Won't the spiders just gang up on me after a while, they'll keep growing in number and shit
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Well, time to do your bets.

>The first game is regarded as a classic
>The second game is considered a huge disappointment and a step back compared to the first game.

The third game (Dark Souls 3) can go either:
>A. So good it arguably can be considered the best game in the series
The Devil May Cry / Metal Gear Solid path

or

>B. So bad it kills the series for good
The Bioshock Infinite / Dino Criss 3 path

Which one, /v/?
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>>323578110
Killing the spiders is a waste of time. Only kill them if you absolutely have to. You're going to want to finish Rom off as fast as possible. Attacking spiders will just leave you open to more of her spells.
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>>323575205
people pirate fucking $20 worth of dragon's dogma, what makes you think they'll pay that much in their lives ever
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>>323577931
>mfw I found out you can stun Rom out of its teleport move
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>>323577672
>>323577951
But a sequel is supposed to be an improvement, just like Bloodborne did. If we're going back to Dark Souls 1's graphically and gameplay-wise we aren't doing anything.
I think I'm going to avoid Dark Souls 3. Will replay Dark Souls 1 or even Dark Souls 2 again.
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>>323578365
Bullshit.
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>>323578214
It's going to be Halo.

>DeS: Classic Halo 1
>DaS1: Beast Mode Halo 2
>DaS2: Ehhh Halo 3
>Bloodborne: Fun divergence Reach
>DaS3: Kill me now Halo 4
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>>323578337
To be fair Denuvo is about to bring the age of piracy to its end.
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>>323578457
It true, I was amazed that a tricked Kirk hammer could do it. Once she recovers she'll teleport again
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>>323578110
You can sprint past the spiders without them ganging up on you, get your hits in, then sprint away and repeat.

Kill the spiders if you want, just make sure you side dodge the spells, they're easy to see coming.
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>>323578457
Not him but you can.
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>>323577353
If you just kill the little spiders each time, and then hit Rom, you only need to dodge extremely telegraphed spider attacks and slow moving magic. Just roll whenever magic is happening and you can't get hit. The fight only takes about 10 minutes and it's pretty much impossible to fuck up
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>>323578489
I think you're right.
Dark Souls 3 is going to be so hilariously awful it's going to be great.
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>>323578281
Alright, thanks for the tips anon. Happy Hunting
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>>323578436
It has improvements, but it's also has more of the atmosphere and not impossible spacing/geography that was present in DaS2, along with a lot of the other broken stuff that made DaS2 actually annoying.

Think of it more like DaS3 is what DaS2 should have been, an improvement, but more of the same things that you love about the series.
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>>323578436
There are anime moves for every weapon, to compensate for the lack of trick weapons.
What I'm actually worried about is that they might have abandoned the concept of powerstancing.
>>323577951
The 20% buff weapon art also has a knockback effect, sorta like Force.
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>>323578746
Fuck that. I loved powerstancing cestus in Dark Souls 2. For some bizarre reason it was ridiculously effective against both players and NPC invaders
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>>323578746
>The 20% buff weapon art also has a knockback effect, sorta like Force.

Did it? Things were dying so fast that I never paid much attention to it honestly, though I do sort of recall it from the Axe guys that take 3-4 hits, just assumed that was from the Axe itself though and not the buff.
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>>323578889
They seem to have integrated the concept of powerstancing into some weapons like the Legion Scimitars which can split into two instead of 2handing. I dunno, there is too little information, we'll have to see for ourselves.
But fist weapons are probably safe. We're probably going to have something like the Bone Fist as well.
>>323578940
Yeah, it's pretty apparent in the trailer as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XwhYVzN_a0
1:21
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>>323579298
Well how about that, I must be blind as a bad then. I'm hoping for some really neat weapons honestly. I wonder where the Holy Moonlight Sword will be this time around too.
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>>323579860
I hope the scorching red brand this guy's holding is a droppable weapon as well. I know it's probably not.
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>>323580249
prob a gimick weapon like trident
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>>323570884
>I wanna play that game but buying a ps4 is a fucking disgrace.

What is wrong with you? You should take a step back and really think about what you just said.
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>>323580648
He only wants to play one exclusive game, Bloodborne, which is $20.
He can't justify buying an entire console for one game + pay for online.

If he did, it'd be a huge waste of money and that's disgraceful, you spent $450 for one video game?

You need to justify that huge money waste, and Bloodborne as good as it is, is not worth that money
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>>323580409
Well, some gimmick weapons are capable of shitting out a considerable amount of damage, the trident was also pretty good in 2 as well.
I expect the game to actually have decent weapon balance, at least BB and DaS2 were okay in this department.
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>>323580249
Knowing Dark Souls it probably is. Now if only we can have that and a giant ass mace and roll like 400 feet like those assholes int he Chalice Dungeons in Bloodborne, we're set.
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This fucker looks pretty insane, by the way.
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I hope we have kirkhammer in 3
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Things from Dark Souls 1 I want to stay on Dark Souls 3:
Soul-level based matchmaking.
Non-human enemies and bosses (the good ones like Manus and the wheel skeletons, not the bad ones like Bed of Chaos)
Pre-Anor londo level design,
Challenging human-in-armor bosses like O&S and Artorias
Non-nerfed magic and miracles.
Infinite uses invasion items.
An actually functional gravelord covenant
Claymore
Being able to travel on foot from one area to the another
Poise
Heavy armor actually being viable.
Elite Knight set


Things from Dark Souls 2 I want to stay on Dark Souls 3:
Server-based multiplayer instead of peer-to-peer multiplayer
New enemies / events / items / weapons on NG+
All the coventans.
Power stance
The different stat scaling for every element
Viable fists
Slow estus healing
Invading Hollowed players
Losing a % of your maximum HP every single time you die
The Lost Crowns trilogy's level design
Gyrm's greathammer
Areas swarming with enemies
Bonfire teleporting from the very beginning
Nerfed backstab
Alva Set
Being able to equip more than two rings.

Things I want gone from both games:
DaS's shitty netcode (SUMMONING FAILED)
DaS2's Soul Memory
DaS2's Infinite poise enemies
DaS2's washed-out color palette
DaS2's shitty hitboxes.
DaS2's healing stones.
DaS2's enemies having perfect tracking
Both games' boring lineal corridor areas (Demon's ruins, Lost izalith, Dragon shrine, Aldia's keep)
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>>323581296
These two have quite a similar fighting style/colour palette, makes me wonder whether the fat guy is the leader of mindless ice knights.
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>be master race
>do my daily visit to the Bloodborne petition to see if there's any updates or a response from FROM
>there's none, i'm slightly upsed
>i decide to buy the new hot game of the moment, Dragon's Dogma
>peasants on /v/ are making fun of me for "eating their scraps"
>i'm moderately perturbed
>find out Dragon's Dogma has been leaked, pirate scum are enjoying the game for free while us loyal Gaben acolytes must wait one more week for playing it
>i'm now absolutely furious and spastic
>i push down my seat so hard my chair explodes, fracturing my anus and putting me in a coma
>wake up from the coma 50 years later
>find out a lot in gaming has changed ever since
>mass produced PCs and their parts no longer exist, they've gone the way of the typewriter and replaced by a myriad of devices that do its job better
>the only way of getting your hands in one is to buy an artisan built PC, which costs nearly as much as a house
>i remain loyal to the late and forgotten Lord Gaben, and fork over the money for a PC
>the only 2 games on it are DOTA and some indie game with "ironic" hideous graphics
>i'm absolutely in tears right now, wondering how this could've happened to us, the Master Race
>decide to finally budge in and buy a PlayStation 14 along with the remastered version of Bloodborne
>it's the most fun i've ever had, more than my combined 20 years of diligent PC gaming
>i can't get enough of it, and dive deep into all the PS exclusive games i've been missing out because of stubborn allegiance to corporations

I'm sending this message from the future from my PS14, which is so advanced it allows to send data to the past through electronic means

From the bottom of my heart, i'd like to apologize to you sonybros for all the shitposting and misinformation i've spread about Bloodborne
I've also transferred my consciousness to a loli robot while waiting for the new generation of consoles, life couldn't be any better right now
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>>323581510
>Areas swarming with enemies
>Bonfire teleporting from the very beginning
agreed with you until these two unless we have a hub
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>>323581510
The network stress test had terrible netcode, Invasions failed constantly, but that may be due more to the fact that in order to invade they have to have a person co-oping with them, which I think is an awful change personally.

But, it was constant failings on my end, had to re-use the damn orb like 50 times in a row just to try and get something and even then it would only work either in the area right outside the boss door around all the flowers or near the second bonfire.
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>>323581673
>be console peasant
>all I can do is shitpost on /v/ all day
>nobody will ever save me from this nightmare
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>>323581691
I liked areas like the Iron Keep or shrine of amana because you had to keep fighting but I can see why everyone disliked them. I just want the game to not have huge areas full of nothing.
Replaying DaS made me appreciate the bonfire teleporting being available from the very beginning, but for it to work without annoying people the levels need to be carefully designed.
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>>323581510
>Soul-level based matchmaking.
>Infinite uses invasion items.
>Poise
>Elite Knight set
>Bonfire teleporting from the very beginning
These has been already confirmed and almost 100% will make to the final game.
>Slow estus healing
It's back to being instant, sadly. I preferred slower healing as well, easier to punish during PvP and makes you more cautious during PvE.
The animation windup seems to be slower than DaS1/2 though, so we'll see.
>DaS2
>All the coventans.
I'm going to miss murderous garden gnomes in conquistador clothes speaking in half-assed rhymes, not gonna lie. Probably my favourite covenant in terms of design.
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Why are PCucks so mad about one game not being on their platform when they already have such of massive library of fantastic games to play? honestly I just want From to make more good games regardless of whatever platform they're on.
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That's right! Bloodborne is so good it won GOTY and a bunch of awards at the 2015 VGAs!
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>>323569397
You will never get an answer to the second question
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>>323581673
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>>323583568
Even glorious nippon which made Bloodborne know it's great, and all Japanese developers chose Bloodborne as their "personal 2015 GOTY". Look at how many of them loved it!! This is confirmation that Bloodborne fans have great taste. In your face haters!!!

#4theplayers!!!!
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>>323583768
It's a yes or no question.
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>>323583057
Because as much as I love gaming on PC and the Souls series, both fanbases, especially on /v/ are autistic as all fuck. Not to say the Souls fanbase isn't autistic as fuck regardless of platform, but the point stands.
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>>323565652
>release buggy downgraded game
>no worry we will patch it
>game is still buggy and downgraded
>Based FROMSOFT!

And this is why they can still shit out a buggy mess every year
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>>323565652
Too bad they still couldn't improve the gameplay.
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The camera during Cleric Beast is the hardest boss fight. Prove me wrong.
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>>323566409
I gave sony money the other day, and I'm seriously appalled at how much shit I have to put up with to use this machine. How have you guys been doing this for more than TWO YEARS?

- Have to pay to play online. Why the fuck are you still putting up with this? Get together and sign a petition or boycott that shit or something. The PC userbase does it all the time.
- The hardware isn't that great. It doesn't seem like they're really selling this console at a loss (Which is par for the course for console manufacturers - they sell the consoles at a loss, but make money off the games), since a PC of only a slightly higher pricepoint can easily outperform it, with all the other advantages of PC gaming.
- Games STILL don't offer graphics options if you want to bump up the framerate a little bit. I'd love to turn down texture quality and draw distance because when playing a game at 900p with no AA, you can't see shit anyway.
- Likewise, in-game options are severely limited. Want to change your input options? Too bad, you can only use a small selection of preset layouts.
- Can't connect over the 5ghz band. What? This shit came out in 2013. For a machine that can stream and play online simultaneously, that option is essential.
- Doesn't support peripherals like mouse + keyboard in-game, sans one or two games. With the PC audience as big and mainstream as it is now, you'd think better mouse + keyboard support would be an easy way to appeal to that crowd.
- Most games are multiplat, the ones that aren't are hit-or-miss. Until Dawn and Bloodborne are the only one's I'm enjoying, but not nearly enough to justify this purchase.

Overall, I'm really, really displeased with this machine and cannot understand why so many people praise it as the second coming of christ.
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>>323585702
Unless you're a shield fag it plays better than every Souls title before it.
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did they also fix the framerate?
>people think that software can't be changed
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>>323565652
I'm surprised it only cost that much to download more RAM.
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>>323583057
Personally I would enjoy it more on PC.
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>Participating in platform wars

I don't get what mods are doing most of the time. What's the point of having rules if they don't mean shit? Flame wars are against the rules, but most platform war threads stay up and the only ones getting deleted are when it triggers some mod because it's his favorite vidya/platform/company.

Before you fags ask if I'm mad. Yes, I am. I'm fucking fed up with this board, I don't even know why I keep coming here
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>>323583057
If dark souls 1 and 2 hadn't come to PC and found a lot of new fans there then nobody would have cared about it on PC.

Dark 1 got ported after people showed interest and found success equal to the PS3 release despite being a bad port that required a fan patch.

Dark 2 was best on PC (FPS/ load times) but felt lackluster as a game, later the updated version released as a new game and split the PC player base.

On top of that we came to find out that while a B team was making dark 2 the A team had been working on a game that would only be available on one platform, excluding everyone who didn't want to get a PS4 and hindering the game with shit framerate and load times.

That's at least why I was mad about it, wouldn't have cared if the other two games hadn't been ported but I feel kind of ripped off after all of that. Hopefully now that the guy behind souls is the lead of from they'll stop fucking with their fanbase.
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