>The weakest console always wins the gen >Wii U is the

>>323266657
>What happened?
Marketing.

some believe that you are only as beloved as your last installment. Take Devil may cry series for example. when you fuck up you lose apart of your core audience who grows weary of being mocked or taken advantage of.

>>323267143


so Nintendo should just ride the storm for at least 5 more years until an new generation of gamers might accept them.

>barren exclusive

But you said Wii U, not PS4

>>323266852
Worst marketing on videogame's history.

/thread.

Gimmicks stopped selling and software quality declined.

>>323267340
>software quality declined.
Best of memes.

marketing (or there lack of)
bad launch line up
no system sellers like Zelda, Metroid, a good Mario (fuck NSMB)
bad company image (a wii? what are you? 8?)

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>>323267405
>metroid
>system seller

>>323267319
>Worst marketing on videogame's history.

Wouldn't go that far. The PSP did exist.

>>323266657
WiiU's got the current best exclusives line-up. You're delusional if you can't see that

>>323267391

>Other M
>Skyward Sword
>Sticker Star

Nintendo's in-house has gone to shit, they're a few steps away from becoming dependent on Retro at this point.

>>323267486
I'm pretty sure prime sold gamecubes

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>>323267486

>>323266657
Gimmicks stopped selling.

>>323267762
We'll see with VR

>>323267753


The feels like they are a slicker Sega to me at this point, they are having very similar issues but on a smaller scale. from when Sega still did consoles.

>>323267753

>Skyward Sword
>bad

I bet you've only played OoT.

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Nintendo just went back to their old sales trajectory.

At this rate their next home console should sell somewhere between 5-8 million.

>>323267825
It's hilarious that so many think it's not going to be shit for another 5+ years. If Nintendo was doing it, it'd be a gimmick.

>>323267973
not him but skyward sword is easily the worst of the 5 console zeldas

it's a good game surrounded by 4 exceptional games, hence a drop in quality

>>323267753
>ignoring all the good while cherry picking three specific games
>ignoring terrible blunders like Donkey Kong 64, Star Fox Adventures and Yoshis Story
Top memes

>>323267825
Let's hope that; nobody will use that shit for games, even less for actual gameplay.

>>323267973
Skyward Sword is easily one of the weakest main zelda

>>323267978
It actually adds up when you look at how much core games like Smash Bros sold on the Wii.

Like I think it sold like 13mil?
I doubt that the Wii had more than 15million core gamers after the embarassing flop that was the Gamecube.

>>323266657
I was wrong. The name alone did a lot of damage to the consumer base and the idea of a tablet as a controller just wasn't interesting enough to make up for the lack of power.

>>323268209
fuck you the gamecube is awesome.

>>323268209
core gamers don't exist anymore anon unless you count cawadooty FIFAfags

>>323267973

last Zelda game I seriously enjoyed was Minish Cap. and I didn't play that till many years after release.

>>323268298


The tablet was a double blow because it also shot up the cost of the console.

I think In a different universe, the WiU not having a Tablet, not being called WiiU and costing $200 at this point would have fared better.

>>323268298
The tablet was underutilized, and I blame Nintendo for that too.
Its a DS in console form, but they didnt even think of making enough DS type of games for it, or some other unique new stuff.

Their greatest new thing on the WiiU is Splatoon. Now, thats a good thing ,but even that game doesnt use the tablet for shit.

>>323268340
Shit was terrible.

>>323268357
In this case with core I mean most of the people that are in it for the Nintendo core games.
The Marios, the Donkey Kongs, the Zeldas.

>>323266657
>The weakest console always wins the gen
Not always. The SNES wasn't the weakest console of its gen. Inb4 "blast processing".

>>323267586
And lets not forget early PS3 tv ads.

>>323268545
>In this case with core I mean most of the people that are in it for the Nintendo core games.
Well your Wii example was shit, NSMB Wii sold 29.51 million which beat Super Mario World's 20 million. When the system sells and the games are there, the fans turn out in droves.

>>323267973
I wouldn't call Skyward Sword outright bad since they actually made items useful in multiple dungeons and more multiple purposes. However, it's so fucking handholding that I couldn't be assed to finish the game and I normally finish Zelda games.

It's like they fixed one broken window only to leave another broken on the other side and break another Fi shaped one for good measure.

>>323268515
I personally like the tablet as a controller as it's probably the only controller that I can old properly without it feeling weird. I do admit that I horrendously underutilized on the console.

>>323266657
Marketing
a pain in the ass to program for
unappealing controller with a shitty gimmick that completely misses the point why the double screens works for the DS and 3DS

>have wii u
>never play the fucking thing

Although I never play any consoles, they're garbage

What's a good use for the gamepad that hasn't been done?

>>323270002
metroid prime scanner via gyro scope

POKEMON SNAP 2 FUCK YOU MATSUDA

>>323266657
>Blatant sonyshill lies
It's the best selling and most beloved console of this gen

>>323269648
>a pain in the ass to program for
It's not though.

>>323270117
>cryingwojak.png

>>323267486
>too young to remember the surge in GC sales with the Prime bundles

>>323270002

I'm just disappointed that we didn't get more asynchronous multiplayer games. They're fucking brilliant.

Nintendo land had some fun moments with it, but all three of the versus games are fucking pacman versus

>Constantly getting the urge to pick up a Wii U
>always remember it's fucking region locked

Even microsoft stopped doing this. What are the chances Nintendo shit the bed again and region lock the NX?

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>>323271642
That's a nice looking Vita game

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>>323271642
>Two best JRPGs of this gen are on Wii U

Thanks for the reminder.

>almost as barren exclusive wise

What? No it isn't...

Is the only regularly stocked bundle Mario Kart 8, or is that just me?

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>>323271765
>this is the actual combination of SMT and FE
such a missed opportunity, if they actually cared and didn't try to make a vita game this would've been one of the greatest rpgs ever

>>323272207
My walmart keeps getting the mario maker and 3d world bundles. Havent seen the mk8 bundles since they came out.

>>323266657
History dont not already be realising itself.

>>323269648
>a pain in the ass to program for
>still believing the people who purposely sabotaged their ports
Indie devs can do better than big third party companies and Kamiya outright said it wasn't difficult.

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>>323270229
kek

>>323272659
The WiiU was target of massive amounts of FUD.

Shit stopped now, but I remember when the whole gaymen media was shitting on it nonstop.

>>323272390
Odd. Maybe that's just how it is here in Canada. Basically any store that stocks WiiU's, only sells them with the mk8 bundle.

>>323272805
Wouldnt surprise me because MK8 is easily the biggest WiiU game.

People love Mario Kart. Its much bigger than standard Mario games now, and its been that way for some time now.

The system has failed, but Super Mario Maker is the most fun i've had with a game in the last decade, so to me it's worth it.

Wiiu is a great console and has the best games you can't find on any other console.

>>323269915
Forensics game using the game pad as a microscope
Co-op collectathon allowing the two players to do different things around the game.
Pretty much everything on the DS and the whole dark world and cave thing from FSA.

Nintendo didn't use their year-long lead wisely at all; one usually buys Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games and there were virtually none until the PS4 and Xbone were released. Not a whole lot in the way of third-party support beyond some late port jobs either.

As for the other side of the coin, this gen's weird because Sony was given an opportunity to succeed that most companies can only dream of. WiiU dragged its feet and sold its gimmick (or existence, really) to no one and there's nothing that can be said about the Xbone's reveal and the following months that hasn't already been said. Sony basically had a straight shot to victory by simply releasing a console with an acceptable mix of power and price point. That is all they had to do, so they did it.

>>323266657
>almost as barren exclusive wise as the other systems

kek sure thing friend.
I am an idort because I actually like videogames but at this point the PS4 has VERY little to offer beyond Bloodborne in terms of exclusives.

>>323268639
SNES was pretty terrible hardware wise though. Action games had awful frame drops, the audio was incredibly muffled, and most of its special effects like mode 7 3D, sprite transformations, and polygonal 3D required extra processors inside of the game cartridge.

>>323266657

As an outsider who only had a 360 at the time, I literally thought the Wii U was just another wii refresh.

Like the psp go to the psp

Their BIGGEST mistake was naming it the Wii U.

>>323266657
>>The weakest console always wins the gen
Who invented that meme? NES was more powerful than master system, SNES was more powerful than genesis, PS1 was tied with Saturn in term of specs, PS2 and Wii are the only weak winners. Your "rule" provees that you are inorant and possibly underagd, or at least one of those "gamers" that bought a PS3 with TLOU and Uncharted as their first system.

>>323267721
Persona 5,Uncharted 4, Nier 2,Bloodborne VS Bayonetta 2, W101, Xeno X,Star Fox Zero and Fatal Frame 5.SMTXFE

Don't have to be delusional to prefer the PS4 if you include upcoming games.

>>323273208
>Their BIGGEST mistake was naming it the Wii U.

The system would have flopped if they had named it something else. The problems run deeper than simply its name.

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>>323266852
>>323267319
>people believe this

It is not the marketing, it is the audience that changed. Remember, this is the same market that made lets-plays more popular then actually playing games, so of course they would be adverse to games with actual game-play. Kids today have no hand-eye coordination, they grew up with Xbox 360s. Look at the abysmal clear rates of normal Mario maker levels for proof of this.

Marketing is part of it to, but shit taste trumps that. Why else would people buy bad games just because a commercial told them to? There is a reason why Destiny, even being the steaming pile it is, sold so well. It takes a really stupid audience to buy that $80mil marketing budget.

>>323273242
>Who invented that meme?

Nintendofags when trying to justify the Wii U

>>323273401
It needed both wii and something that gets across that it is the successor and not a peripheral in it's name.

>>323273242
>NES was more powerful than master system,
It wasn't.

>SNES was more powerful than genesis
They were roughly the same.

>PS1 was tied with Saturn in term of specs
And they both were weaker than the alternatives at the time

So far you've failed to disprove this rule.

>>323273414
Nigger it existed long before the Wii. Not even the Wii U.

>>323273403
It is marketing. The ps4 sold millions the same way having nothing... nothing!

It is a part and it was an important one this time.

>>323273403
>actually using Mario Maker levels as proof

that shit has been going on since Super Mario Flash with its HOLD RIGHT TO WIN levels so this isn't really anything new

Who knows why people buy consoles any more, fuck. PS4 is by far the most successful with literally only one good exclusive.

People in a thread a few days ago were pulling numbers out their ass saying something like only 11% of ps4 owners have Bloodborne, and I completely believe it.

The console has just as much paid online, worse exclusives unless you're a weeb, and a terrible controller all when compared to the XBone, but I guess people don't play consoles for games anymore. Maybe their dvd-player ps2s are dying and they heard the last of us was a great movie.

I'm not saying xbone or wiiu both aren't shit, but the huge sales discrepancy between those and the ps4 has basically no justification from a logical standpoint.

>>323273401

I believe the opposite is true. The Wii brand was insanely lucrative from like 2006-2009, but it very quickly ran out of steam after the matter, and by 2012 it was a dead end brand. Not only did naming it WiiU make it sound like a Wii add-on, but it was for a console that had since fallen out of its fad phase and out of favor with the general public. Wii had its fun but Nintendo needed to drop the brand ASAP. WiiU is damn near one of the worst possible names they could've given its successor, and their subsequent marketing and release schedule did absolutely no favors either.

>>323273403
>It is not the marketing
Oh please, there was marketing and shilling everywhere for the PS4. People actually believed that the PS4 would be stronger than anything PC had for months to years despite every engine demonstration having to be downgraded to run on it. People bought into the system before they had anything they wanted to play on it. Large portions of the fanbase did absolutely nothing with the system but maybe play Warframe once in awhile.

If that's not a byproduct of marketing then that means Sony has came up with a new means of indoctrinating an entire market.

>>323273749

>Who knows why people buy consoles any more, fuck.

Enthusiasts aren't the core demographic like they were even 10-15 years ago. Now you've got millions of idiots who will buy a console because it plays CoD, Madden, and GTA better than the other one. Why market to the people with standards when those without them have a metric shitton more money to spend? It's easier AND it's a wider audience. A no-brainer, really.

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>>323266657
DELETE THIS THREAD RIGHT THIS FUCKING INSTANT

>>323273749
Because they don't have a pc and want to play fps and stuff like fo4 and the witcher 3. Casuals care about more than just exclusives because all they have is the console.

>>323273750
>2009
Bit too early there anon. The Wii was still a fairly popular brand after that point.
The true problem didn't lie with the name or anything of the sort by the fact that they advertised the gamepad more than the actual system which didn't look much different from a wii to begin with.

Needless to say people thought it was about 300 or so for a peripheral making the consumers think it was an unreasonable purchase. Sort of like the oculus now.

>>323273403
Marketing leads to shit taste.
Or good taste. Depends on what you market.

Good games used to be the marketing focus on the past. Now its shitty games, so kids play shitty games.

>>323273242
The Dreamcast was weaker than the PS2 and failed miserably, so that's another one out.

How's the hacking on the Wii U going? I'm thinking about buying one because I really miss my Nintendo exclusives.

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>>323266657
What happened?

>Wii U
>Cheapest

No

Being $50 cheaper with shitty bundles with last gen tech isn't attracting anyone.

The Wii was $250 in the generation of $400/$600 consoles. Completely different.

The tablet fucked them hard. And I'm glad for it.

>>323273749
On top of the gaming market changing to more simple tastes, everyone but Nintendo advertises it as media machine that combines everything without the price of a high end computer which is what commoners think a decent computer starts at price wise.

After all why get a dvd/bluray player, radio, Netflix machine, image viewer and so on when you can have it in one place under your TV?

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Nintendo thought they were Apple.
They aren't.

>>323274424
ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR

>>323274150

The problem with that theory is that advertised games that didn't exist on the Wii because they couldn't run on the Wii. So to actually believe that the Wii U was just a gamepad peripheral you would have to believe that the Gamepad itself was capable of improving the graphical capability of the Wii.

In other words, you would have to be retarded.

>>323274150

It's not that early. I'd maybe extend it to 2010 since Wii did get some excellent momentum games-wise that year but then that shit was dead in 2011. You can pretty much count the number of games it got that year on a single hand - Lost in Shadow, Xenoblade Chronicles localization, Return to Dream Land, Skyward Sword, and...that's about it. And there was a good 6 month period of DEAD between XC and RtDL. When 2012 came around, only thing Wii had was that the other 2 Operation Rainfall games did eventually get localized. Shit was dead, yo.

>>323274352
The 2nd jobs they took is paying off.

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>>323274518
cute rei, bro.

>>323274424
>Cheapest
>No
>Being $50 cheaper

Brain problems.

>>323274424
Please like the masses care or even pay attention to tech if that were the case they wouldn't be buying the ps4. I As far as they're concerned they already had what they needed for the Wii and thought the pad was another peripheral as opposed to a new console even if it is cheaper than their competitors by a fairly large margin they still thought it was something else entirely.

>>323266657
>>The weakest console always wins the gen
As I recall, the Gamecube & the Dreamcast was cheaper than the PS2 and yet we all know what happened there..

>>323274582
We are talking about children and the elderly anon.

>>323274741
You understand estimate people.

I'm not talking about the complete retards that bought the Wii, that casual audience is lost to tablets/phones forever, they never cared about games.

I'm talking about people who actually want to play video games.

>>323274725
Hardware is more expensive and you get less performance per dollar out of the wiiu. The online costs come out to the price of one game a year which is less than you save by buying games that aren't overpriced nintendo games with artificial scarcity imposed on them.

>>323274791

And they would still have to be mentally challenged.

>>323274773

PS2 was stronger than DC but DC jumped the gun hard on the next gen. Gamecube and Xbox were both stronger than PS2, though.

>>323274923
A lot of them are sub 80 IQs or senile.

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nintendo gave up and rushed games without content/effort because the sales of casual titles during the wii era broke them.

also marketing, they went insane and forget that kids dont want to buy something if it looks like their parents and literal babies are enjoying it, aka they started marketing their products like breakfast cereals and not an epic entertainment product video game that actually makes you want to go out and buy it.


Nintendo marketing before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO2c_Mre2Nw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pDK72y4tHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Mf2mp6fms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIgpuGw168k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQO2VtV1PNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K783SDTBKmg

Nintendo marketing now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_cXEgUCs9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6opj_AQgxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T45wUqnmdSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjPOSKnOftA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjvuQ5fJBaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awU7XinhZPY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXpoOjLD-rU

>>323274885

I hope you're not a paid marketer because that's a god awful spin.

>>323275008
YOU TELL HIM. THE NX IS GOING TO BLOW THE PS4 OUT OF THE WATER.

>>323274826
>I'm talking about people who actually want to play video games.
So why aren't they buying PCs then? There's very little worthwhile games on the ps4 that aren't on other platforms.

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>>323267297
>But you said Wii U, not PS4
He did though
>almost as barren exclusive wise as the other systems

>>323275008
How is comparing performance per dollar and price of games a "god awful spin"?

>>323274923

Not exactly. /v/ is a board for people who know about and give a fuck or two about vidya, but despite information being as easily accessible as it ever has been in human history the average consumer remains pretty uneducated on the intricacies of this medium. It's not so culturally ingrained as books, film, music, or television. The average person still doesn't fully "get" videogames, at least on a hobbyist level anyways. Little Timmy or his grandpa aren't above thinking that the WiiU tablet is a really expensive add-on to this thing they bought 5 years ago, not out of retardation but simply ignorance.

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>>323268104
>Yoshi's Story
>DK64
>blunders

>>323266657
Since when were the SNES and the PSX the weakest? The PSX ran games much better than the Saturn.

>>323275114

Those few worthwhile games plus not spending 1000 plus on some PC is why. I'm sure you knew this already.

>>323274826
>that casual audience is lost to tablets/phones forever, they never cared about games.
That same casual audience are the ones buying ps4s. It certainly isn't the "core" because there's next to nothing on the thing at the moment.

They clearly haven't gone anywhere.

>>323274978

Really, the more I think about it you could probably teach a chimp the difference between a Wii and the Wii U

>Game works for device A
>Game doesn't work on device B
>Therefore device A isn't the same as device B

I could to write a dissertation on this shit.

>>323275117
MEME

>>323275181
/v/ is a board for people who dislike video games in general but like certain good games, more flawed or even bad games aren't worth discussing here, the most discussion they get are threads memeing and calling them shit.

>>323266657
>barren exclusives
har har

>>323275097

What is the NX anon?

>>323275114
normies know pc gaming is only for LoL and WoW.

>>323266657
>barren exclusive wise

Poor bait.

>>323275117
NOT

>>323275160

Because everything you're saying is dead wrong. Nothing about the Wii U is more expansive than anything in the PS4 and Xbox One.

You also went straight into defending the online paywall while downplaying the added costs that makes it a worse invest than a shitty premade PC or gaming laptop.

>>323275235
>$1000
You're no better than they are if you think that's how much it is to make a PC better than a ps4.
The price range for it at this point including the usual monitors and such would be around the same price or slightly more than a ps4 at this point in time. The raw tech doesn't good value you know.

>>323267143
>some believe that you are only as beloved as your last installment
The Sonic series exists.

>>323275535
>You're no better than they are if you think that's how much it is to make a PC better than a ps4.


Oh wow so you are saying to make a PC less then 1000 huh just to prove some shitty point? Go home PC fanboy.

>>323275347
What are 5 good Wii U exclusives in 2015?

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>>323275636
xenoblade,

>>323275636

Splatoon
Super mario maker


uhhhh....uh.......

>>323275365
ITS THE NEW NINTEDO CONSOLE. ITLL BE REVOLUTIONARY AND IT WILL BLOW THE PS4 RIGHT OUT OF THE FUCKING WATER. HMPH

>>323275753

But what is it?

>>323266852
>>323267319
But Wii's marketing was the best in videogame's history? The console just before it?

>>323275610
You're really going to rehash that losing argument?
Look just Google any site that sells pc parts and pick the midrange ones and do the math. At this point I'm so sick of your denial I just can't be bothered with it anymore.

I mean do you honestly think that every gaming pc has oculus tier hardware?

>>323275636
Splatoon
Mario Maker
Kirby Rainbow Curse
Wooly World
Xenoblade

>>323273518
>>NES was more powerful than master system,
>It wasn't.
>>SNES was more powerful than genesis
>They were roughly the same.
you lost an right to post ever again, retard.

>>323275636

Splatoon
Fatal Frame 5
3 other games I didn't give a fuck about but others do

>>323275826
>Wooly World
>Good

anon...

>>323275518
The WIIU has worse specs, and I didn't defend the paywall I compared it to the price you save by being able to buy really cheap games once they are out for a while compared to Nintendo games which stay full price or get even more expensive. Of course it's a worse investment than PC.

>>323275826
>Kirby Rainbow Curse
>Wooly World


If I wanted to play shitty yarn games I'd play with my niece and a ball of yarn

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Is it all Iwata's fault?

>>323275918
Those games are boring as shit but your response as to why they are worthless is even more worthless.

>>323275783
UM UM ITS UH ITS THE UH UM WHATEVER THAT DOESNT MATTER. ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT SONY IS GOING DOWN.

>>323275989
Nah, gaming has changed from a hobby to a fashion statement.
No one actually wants to play games they just want it to show off and what not.

>>323275915
>compared to Nintendo games which stay full price or get even more expensive
Nintendo has put out a bunch of sales for a lot of their products. 3D World has a sale where it was like 30-35 bucks 3 months after release. So you are still wrong.

>>323266657
To be fair EVERY console is pretty underwhelming this gen.

>>323275891
It's literally one of the two great Yoshi games.

>>323276128
Spoken like a true Nintendo fan. Welcome to the club m8 we have everything ranging from bibs to diapers to even strollers.

>>323276128
That is one game, are you really trying to deny the fact that Nintendo games have always held their price the longest of any other companies games generally outside of low budget rpgs that have a decent fanbase or a growing fanbase that ends up with a limited run.

>>323276324


Get a fucking job. Nintendo can set the prices to their games however they want.

>>323275915
>Nintendo games which stay full price or get even more expensive
The only ones that apply to are the niche ones like xenoblade anon.
The rest steadily drop over time or eventually come out as part of a range like their recent 3DS "Nintendo selects" unlike most AAA games that take a nosedive after a month.

>>323276128
Nintendo's sale price is similar to other games actual price after a slightly longer time period, and they also have sales.

>>323266657
>wii u
>cheapest
i bought a terabyte xbox one with 3 games (RARE REPLAY, GEARS OF WAR COLLECTION, ORI) for 350 dollars whereas a wii u costs 300 dollars minimum for 8 gigabyte size on disk and some mii party game shit

>>323276269
>Spoken like a true Nintendo fan
No, spoken like someone who browses /v/ and sees threads where people share sales. I mean /v/ isn't reliable for a lot of things but people can spot sales like a hawk.

Man, when need another pricing error sale. Those are always entertaining.

>>323276397
>The only ones that apply to are the niche ones like xenoblade anon.
>3D World and Smash still £60 on eShop

>>323276397
Skyward sword and Kirby return to dreamland are STILL 50$. Galaxy 2 took fucking forever to drop to 30.

>>323276513
>>3D World and Smash still £60 on eShop
They aren't but nice try.

>>323276324
>That is one game
One game as an example, not a complete representation of Nintendo's sales.

>>323276419

That's irrelevant to the original claim that Nintendo game prices stay the same or get more expensive.

>>323266657
dudebro happened

>>323276598

Oh, I'm sorry. They're """"£59.99"""" each. Truly BTFO

>>323276608
I was talking about actual price and not price on sale, and you responded by telling me the price of a game while it was on sale to counter. The fact that in that amount of time the normal game would not only be on sale, but would have dropped in price generally.

>>323275002
So funny that you list AC HHD since it was one of the top selling game in Japan in 2015 across all platforms. The only games that sold more are MonHun and Yokai Watch.

Proof that even doing shit spin off still yield sales. HHD is complete shit we all agree on that, yet it was extremely profitable. I don't even want to know how much money Nintendo made on the side with the amiibo cards. When you sell 1.2M units of a game, even if only 5-10% of your playerbase spend money on that shit, it adds up quickly.

>>323276689
>Dudebros are literally ruining gaming along with the pretentious "art" kiddies
It's all gone wrong.

>>323276813
nintendo is selling less because the mainstream type of game now are dudebro shooters

>>323276397
Go try to find a physical copy of Pikmin 3 or Bayonetta 2, anon.

I know I've been trying for the last month.

>>323276813
I wish we got "actual" art games. Like developers that approach a game with the same mindset Tarkovsky or Kubrick would approach directing a film.

>>323266657
>Wii U is the worst selling
10million+ sales might be the lowest of the consoles but still amazing sales period

>and is almost as barren exclusive wise as the other systems
uhhh what? wiiU has the most exclusives of allt he consoles, more than twice what Ps4 has.

>no multiplats either
assassins creed 3, call of duty, watchdogs, arkam city

blind motherfucker has no clue what the system actually has on it.

>>323275868

Guess which is the sms and the nes of the following :)

CPU: 3.58 MHz Z80
Audio: 4 Channels 3
Co-Processor: VDP
Resolutions: 256x192, 256x224, 256x240 (PAL) 4
RAM: 8KB
Video RAM: 16KB
Color RAM: 32 bytes5
Colors On Screen: 32
(two 16-color palettes)6
Color Palette: 64
Sprite Max & Size: 64 at 8x8, 8x16, 16x16, 16x327
Sprites per Scanline: 8 8
Storage: Sega Card (32KB)
Cartridge 1Mb - 4 Mbit

CPU: 1.79 MHz 6502
Audio: 5 Channels 12 13
Co-Processors: PPU, pAPU14, MMC15
Resolution: 256x224 visible of 256x24016
RAM: 2KB
Video RAM: 2KB
Colors On Screen: 16
(four 4-color background palettes + four 4-color sprite palettes)17
Color Palette: 52
Sprite Max & Size: 64 at 8x8 and 8x16
Sprites per Scanline: 8 18
Storage: Cartridge 1 Mbit - 4 Mbit
Average: 1 Mbit

>>323266657
Nintendo try to appeal casual audience again. The problem is, casuals are the first kind of people to abandon a hobby.

>>323276905
Bayo 2 I found in GAME during Christmas for about £17.99.
Pikmin I saw for £25 but I was using the rest of my money for gifts for other people.

>>323266657

boy was this a steaming pile of shit or what? amIrite?

>>323276883
And MOBAs.

We almost all spend our youth on snes playing Mario Kart, SF2, ISS (if you were in yurop) and so on. Or MK64/Goldeneye for those who are slightly younger, now look what 13-18 years old kids are playing.

Mobile shit, MOBAs, latest CoD/BF/Halo.

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>>323277000
You filthy fucking liar.

>>323277000
Bayo 2 is MUCH more expensive now. 80-100$+.

>>323276948

>10million+ sales might be the lowest of the consoles but still amazing sales period

That's just barely better than Dreamcast numbers, and over a longer period of time. Hell, even the Gamecube, considered Nintendo's low point sales-wise until now, at least broke well past 20 million units when it was all said and done.

>>323276948
>still amazing sales
>most exclusives
it can be directly compared to the virtualboy in terms of both sales and good exclusives and you still feel this way?

>>323277175
DELETE THIS

>>323275786
And a lot of people thought the Wii U was the Wii equivalent of the DS Lite.

>>323277095
I could find the receipt for Bayo if I weren't under the covers.

>>323276785

Move goalposts, I don't care. You're still spinning the existence of online paywall as something positive.

>>323277175
>Hell, even the Gamecube, considered Nintendo's low point sales-wise until now, at least broke well past 20 million units when it was all said and done.
By cutting the price into oblivion.

>>323266657
Balme Iwata and his stupid desicions on making casual, half-done games that look like they were developed by Android.

>>323276905
>>323277123
What the hell? I just checked eBay and the game is expensive as fuck now. Why did the price shoot up?

I got my copy of Bayo 2 for like $30 back in July.

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>>323277249
Even then it would only prove you're a lucky lil nig.

>>323277123
No it's not. Maybe only NA people got cuck'd, but the PAL version is pretty much £15 everywhere in Europe, including brand new sealed copies.

>>323277374
No one wanted them so they only produces so many.
When people realised they were good the demand rose.

>>323277374
Because they limit the printing on certain games to force consumers into buying digital downloads.

>>323277191

>it can be directly compared to the virtualboy in terms of both sales and good exclusives

Let's not get too hasty here. A quick search shows the VB didn't even break a million units sold. WiiU's not doing well but pretty much any platform that didn't fail within 6 months absolutely smashes that number. Even the fucking N-Gage smashes VB's sales.

>>323277352

A fair point considering the lack of price cuts WiiU has generally received. Kinda odd, now that I think about it. They'll probably announce one sometime this year, what with NX and all.

>>323277374


Jewtendo

only care about initial sales

>>323277613
THE NX IS GOING TO BE REVOLUTIONARY

>>323273403
>Why else would people buy bad games just because a commercial told them to?

Because it's Nintendo, and you know they cannot do wrong.

>>323266657
Well let's see and count:
>High price because of the gimmick controller the majority of gamers don't want to use
>Region-lock
>80% of games are shovelware even nostalgia-fags are getting tired of and it has only two worthwhile 3rd party exclusives
>Games never go down in price
>Have to buy a normal controller separately
>HDD space is ridiculous, especially considering some worthwhile games are digital-only
>Online is shit
>Amiibos
For me it's just a Bayonetta machine, the console itself is real bad and would only work if it released along with PS3 and X360 to have any support whatsoever. But once again, Nintendo is generation behind.

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>tfw still no good tactical shooters

>>323277729


Nah Rainbow Six Siege says hi.

>>323277514
Got that backwards anon.
They don't have sales on their software that also comes physically for the benefit of the retailer. If they don't have enough copies it's because the retailers didn't expect it to sell and didn't ask for so many, Nintendo trying to minimise losses now only make enough to satisfy that demand.

>>323275636
Xenoblade
Splatoon
Captain Toad
Kirby
Devils Third
Fast Racing
Mario Maker

>>323275786
Wii is one of the main reasons Wii U sold so poorly, genius.

>>323277884
>devil's third
Aside from that you're good.

>>323277884
>Devils Third
Come on man, you already had five games, there was no need to pad the list.

>>323277884
>Devil's Third
Kek'd hard. It's like when sony fanboys mention Knack.

>>323275826
My first console was a SNES. I played games pretty much all my life and none of these games seems fun to me.

They seem too easy, uninspired and generic to me, honestly. Not to mention Wii U is expensive for what it is and I don't feel to be money-milked to buy Amiibos just to unlock shit on games

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>>323277805
>rainbow six siege
>tactical

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>Captain Toad
>Kirby ( didn't even say the full name out of embarrassment
>Devils Turds
>CensoredBlade

My SIDES

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>>323277805
>camp in corners of one room the game

>>323277884
>Fast Racing
>Captain Toad
>Kirby
>Splatoon
>Mario Maker
Got something that could interest a non-nintendo fan, for once?

>>323277715
There's only two real reasons here.

>>323275989
Yes. I hated him even when he still alive. Don't know why people praise him so much. I'm sure most of them didn't were born at the time N64 was out.

>>323277965

When they STILL only have Bloodborne they have no other choice.

>>323277519
one million and ten million arent actually that far away comparatively to more successful sytems

the only difference i see is the fact the virtualboy actually has a good wario game

>>323278028
Sorry, we only have good games.
If you want something more, cinematic, go to Sony or Microsoft.

>>323274352

Same thing will happen to Nintendo fans

Nintendo can't afford to leave that money off the table anymore

>>323277972

Splatoon has its drawbacks but in terms of sheer mechanics and playability it's pretty on point. It's the kind of game that could be absolutely nuts if Nintendo irons out the kinks with a sequel. The rest of that list...eh.

I hope this won't happen but I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo of America got the idea that making their next console viral similar to forcing their terrible memes will be what attracts many towards their next system.

>>323277884
>Fast Racing
>Devils Third
Why?

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>>323278030
are you fucking seriopus?

>>323278127

>comparatively to more successful sytems

That means pretty much nothing. 10 million isn't good but it sure as shit is better than <1 million.

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>>323278145
>Same thing will happen to Nintendo fans

It already happened. Nintendo just took a different approach.

>>323278128
Why, are, you, putting, commas, like, this?

>>323278145
>Same thing will happen to Nintendo fans
Not unless a second crash happens where they have to recoup their losses like that.
Nintendo will just do another amiibo solution in the meantime

>>323278128
Well, okay then, have fun playing rainbow-filled games for pre-teens.

>>323266657
You are getting it wrong. It didnt start a new generation for most people. The time of its launch and the console itself made a last gen console for the general public. It wasnt 1 year early, it was at least 3 years too late. It was too pricey when compared with ps3/x360 and the weakest console only has the highest chance when its also the cheapest.

>>323278287
You might want to go to the optometrist if you're seeing that many.

>>323275234
>Since when were the SNES and the PSX the weakest?
NEO-GEO, Genesis and N64.
SNES had a plenty games with internal co-processors but Genesis had only Virtua Racing.

>>323278271
..except it does matter when comparing two of the worst selling consoles in the history of nintendo

>>323278351

>3 years too late

More like 6 or 7, depending on if you go with the PS3's launch or the 360's.

>>323278351
For the last time, gens aren't determined by tech. Using that logic all current consoles are three or four gen's behind.

>almost as barren exclusive wise as the other systems
You high m8?

>>323278282
Not me, at least. I stopped supporting Nintendo a generation ago.

I will never fall for this scam, DCL included.

>>323278329
DELETE THIS COMMENT RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>323278541
Are you a PC only gamer and only pirate your games?

>>323278463
Nah around 2009 would have been fine.
The wii audience was bored of it and wanted something new.
But nintendo wanted more and so the wii overstayed its welcome and sales massively dropped from 2010+, because everybody moved onto something else.

>>323278548
>no wojak
0/10
That's the best I can do.

>>323277254
Lol you are so dramatic that even showing how the paywall is less than the price of Nintendo games compared to regular games means I am defending the paywall because I didn't go full retard and bitch about the paywall on principle when it wasn't even relevant. Fucking retarded.
I never moved the goalposts, from the beginning we were talking price of games, not everyone catches games on sales, and games of a lower price also get sales they just get discounted even lower so your sale means shit.

>>323278524
>by the general public
It matters jack shit what gen it is on paper when everybody compares it with ps360(not just in terms of hardware).

>>323278704
>because everybody moved onto something else.
It's more that everyone that wanted one had one rather than everyone lost interest. You have to remember that it still has fairly steady software sales after that point.

>>323278524
PC always was and always will be outside of all the "generation" thing. Game devs always adapt to the console hardware, because they rule the market right now.

>>323278618
Yes and no.

But I emulate games

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>>323266657
>and is almost as barren exclusive wise as the other systems but also has no multiplats either

>>323278728
I'm on my phone m8, please give me some points.

>>323266657
>almost as barren exclusive wise

lol

after 3 years it has over a dozen good exclusives
xbox has 0
ps4 has 1

>>323278815
You just don't get it do you.
If you went solely by tech the consoles aren't anything new especially when comparing it to an actual high end pc with parts that are actually new.

It never mattered what was in it, it was always the time of release rather than the tech simply because it's the only non retarded way of looking at it.
You can compare it all you want to the previous consoles but it won't change that.

>>323278935
Aside some miltiplats, nobodoy wants those games.

>>323279053
Why? Theyre all good except for Game & Wario

>>323278935
When you have to add Most Wanted U,Zombi U and Razors Edge to round out a list you are in trouble.

>>323279053
More sales than exclusives on other systems so clearly people do.

>>323278935
>windwaker
>mh3u
>exclusive
mh3u on wii u is even the worse port.

>>323279028
>If I don't like games it means they are no games.

I can also say WiiU only has Bayonetta, because it's the only game I'm interested in in.

>>323266657

I was waiting for the Wii U to hit $200 dollars before getting one.

It's still $300 on Amazon. The Pii U isn't cheap, the games aren't cheap and I just can't imagine myself getting one when a PS4 is $50 more.

>>323278935
>actually listing good wii u games
Now this is the part where people who never play them tell you they're all shit

>>323279180
Lol at not being interested in the superior, Kamiya developed, platinum game W101 fagot.

>>323279130

Hey, ZombiU had some pretty neat ideas. They just happened to be tacked on to a very mediocre game.

>>323278935
>Exclusives
>Half of this are on 3DS.

>>323279315
I agree but the game is still pretty fucking bad and I thought it sounded great even after everything people said about it.

>>323278845
>2009 80 million wii games sold
>2010 60 million wii games sold
>no decline
Okay

>>323279307
I played it, it's not my thing. It relies on gimmicks too much and you can't get what's happening on the screen half of the time.

>>323279028
>Be Nintendo
>Never put my games on sale
>Literal retards defend me to the ends of the earth while I fuck them in the ass

Not bad

>>323279151
>console has fewer games than other consoles
>said games sell more because of lack of variety
>fans consider this a success

Plus, I'm pretty sure Wii U games sell worse than their Wii counterparts.

>>323279386
Not a fan of reading comprehension are you.
I didn't say there wasn't a decline just that people who were interested had one at that point which was most of the casual and core audience.

>>323279395
Casuals like this is why we have so many shitty games.

>>323279489
>>Never put my games on sale
Someone doesn't check the eshop often.

>>323279045
>You just dont get it
The one who seems to be massively dense is you.
I will repeat it again, for sales and the consumer it dosent matter which standard classification one uses, they will see it as they want and they just didnt see the wii u as one early too the party but way too late to the party.

>>323279568
I'm 100% certain I can play Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden and DMC better than you though, so here's a (You).

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Just bought a Wii U two days ago, it's comfy as fuck.

>tfw bought a PS4 expecting RPGs

Was Xenoblade X even a contender for GOTY awards? It's the best game that came out in 2015.

>>323279317
>3 is half of 21
Do they not teach basic math anymore?

>>323279385

I honestly think anyone interested in developing a high budget horror title ought to play ZombiU for a couple hours or so. I really want its gamepad elements/integration and Souls-like death mechanics to be used in a better horror game. Those parts are great but the rest of the game is just so fucking mundane. Someone, anyone take this game's good parts and apply it to an actually good game, please.

>>323279546
>it still has fairly steady software sales after that point.
>I didn't say there wasn't a decline
Okay

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>>323279489
Do you even eShop?

Nintendo puts real games for 30-80% off literally every week. Thanks for Hardware Rivals Sony, that's definitely going on my hard drive.

Don't get me wrong, Nintendo is a shit company, but you're wrong in this regard.

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>>323279843
>eshop
>real games
This is exactly zero reasons to buy a game on the Eshop over using Loadline.

My personal Wii U purchases by year, not counting VC games:
2013:
>Nintendo Land (came with system)
>WWHD (lined my purchase up with the physical release)
>Sonic Lost World
>Super Mario 3D World

2014:
>Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed
>DKC Tropical Freeze
>Wonderful 101
>Mario Kart 8
>Shovel Knight
>Pikmin 3 (free with MK8)
>Smash 4
>Mighty Switch Force HD (free from the credit I got from that deluxe program)

2015:
>Mario Kart 8, Smash 4, and Shovel Knight DLC
>Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
>Splatoon
>Super Mario Maker
>Yoshi's Woolly World
>New Super Mario Bros U + Luigi U
>Fast Racing Neo

Hyped for Pokken, and I still need to get to Bayo1+2 and Toad's Treasure Tracker. So what is with the no games meme? Really enjoying it so far.
>muh waiting for a price drop meme
Refurb from Nintendo is cheap as fuck and if you didnt get the Smash/Splatoon bundle you werent interested in buying one in the first place

>>323266657
>>The weakest console always wins the gen

This isn't even true. SNES had way better graphics than Genesis or TG-16.

>>323279689
>for sales and the consumer
You mean the incredibly small amount of consumers that care about the actual specs of a system?
The ones that think the ps4 is stronger than a PC because an Internet ad told them?

I'll say it one more time going solely by tech places consoles well below the bar gen wise than they're placed and even then you would be comparing it to the company's previous one rather than their competitors if you want to determine generation.
Most consumers pay no heed to what's inside a console or how much power it has. The only reason it's really coming up now is because Sony keeps on spouting it and once again that doesn't mean the consumer's know what they're getting in that department.
You are vastly over estimating the average consumer. Here's a tip by the way, /v/ isn't comprised of them.

>>323277945
>>323277961
>>323277965
>all these niggas who haven't played the best online game of the year

>>323278028
Fast Racing
Rodea
Xenoblade

>barren exclusive wise

>>323280216
>Rodea

Wii version or bust

>>323279990
So rather than taking advantage of the sales you'd pretend as of they don't exist.

>>323266657
Wii U is a good system though it's not up to spec as current gen consoles and Nintendo dropped the ball on marketing. The lack of support and care Nintendo has for its shrinking installbase will put the nail in the coffin for it. It definitely has some great exclusives that are a little bit held back due to the older hardware on the Wii U. I do not buying the Smash/ Splatoon bundle.

>>323280308
Digital games are worthless. They are not worth buying ever. They are worth pirating, if that's your thing. Eshop games are all available for free. Buying them is fucking retarded.

>>323278028
What do non-Nintendo fans want? Less colors and more cutscenes? I dont see what brand loyalty has to do with enjoying any of those games

>>323280338
>The lack of support and care Nintendo has for its shrinking installbase
That's all they have to give at the moment. Which is why they haven't gone full new with some kind of subscription service.

>WIIU HAS NO EXCLUSIVES
>someone posts a list of exclusives, there are objectively at least 3 times more than any other console
>W-WELL T-THOSE DON'T COUNT THEY'RE SHIT NO ONE LIKES THEM

you sonyggers amaze me, the amount of cognitive dissonance is unreal, you people are legitimately some of the dumbest people I've ever come into contact with, it's fascinating to think about how you can possibly go throughout your everyday life with such a low level of intelligence and not accidentally die from minor dangers or forgetting to breathe

>>323279178
how is it worse?

>>323275267
>That same casual audience are the ones buying ps4s. It certainly isn't the "core" because there's next to nothing on the thing at the moment
This delusion.

>>323280541
It runs at a much lower framerate than the 3ds version.

>>323280449
They want everything on the other systems plus everything on Nintendo but instead of getting both they place that demand on Nintendo plus more.

>>323280551
I agree.
It is deluded to think the core is buying into the paystation4 when there's nothing for them outside of Bloodborne.

>>323280508
> be a nintoddler
> think you're in any position to smacktalk anyone
But yeah, keep crying about how the Wii-u's problem is marketing.

>>323277123
http://store.nintendo.co.uk/games-wii-u/bayonetta-2/10994344.html
Well, here in the UK we can buy it right now for £12 BUT THERE'S STILL NO FUCKING RELEASE DATE FOR FATES!

>>323280669
Its been out for almost 4 years, stop adding the hyphen retard

>>323280873
>Be a nintendicksucker
>Blame nintendo's failure on poor marketing
>dont realize the whole world is laughing at me

They got arrogant and lazy. Didn't do the basics properly. The biggest mistake was the fucking name. So many people even to this day think the wii u is am expensive tablet peripheral for the wii, no joke

>>323280663
Yeah except massive dev support and actual ability to play games on it.
> b-b-but they are not exclusive!!!!
See this is what diaper wearers don't get, good games are a merit to a console no matter if they are exclusive or not.

You think anyone gives a shit if pii-poo poo has a bunch of shit games as exclusives in its meager library? No. A platform that can play most games, even if they aren't exclusive, still has those games ands that is a real merit. The Wii-u has nothing that comes close to that, it can't run shit, devs have long since dropped any meagre support it had from the start, not even Nintendo have any confidence in it and has only supported it half heartedly for years. And if they don't believe in it why should consumers have any confidence in it?

Marketing wouldn't do shit. People bought the fad that was the Wii and were quickly bored to shit with it, why would they buy another impractical gimmicky console when they already have Wiis collecting dust?

>>323281028
Name and marketing wouldn't do shit, people just don't care about Nintendo.

>>323281101
>diaper wearers
>pii-poo poo
you must be 18 years or older to post on this board

>>323281028
The name wasn't the problem. It's the damn gamepad.
Just look at how the early ads emphasised it instead of the fact it was a whole new system.

If they just realised what the ads looked like they cos HSBC salvaged it quickly.

>>323279843
>hardware rivals

Lol I played this on ps plus this week, fucking hell. Honestly, some of the worst fucking shit I've played all gen. Sony are becoming more arrogant with each passing month, it's like a direct correlation with the sales numbers going up. I can't wait to see what's on ps+ in like a year or two. I dread it

>>323266657
it has more exclusives then the other two combined you stupid stupid dumb cunt

>>323281158

The second half is becoming increasingly true but it's all the more reason for them to not fuck up the thing your first half completely glosses over. Really didn't help Nintendo that they didn't even get that part right with WiiU at all.

>>323281101
>Yeah except massive dev support and actual ability to play games on it.
Aside from the fact that the huge installs and updates will quickly fill up the hard drive rendering games unplayable without a 6 hour wait not including deletion, the games are looking to be the "press X for flashyness" so far and that just leads to something mediocre like most of the ps3's line up.

>>323281372
Bullshit won't do you any good nintoddler.

>>323281246
The worst part is that if they get a monopoly in America they're going to bump up the price of the subscription.

>>323281183
Yet we allow Nintendo fans on /v/

>>323281158
Mate. That's why lol if the name and marketing was decent, people WOULD give a fuck about Nintendo. It has literally everything to do with name and marketing.

Apple are a perfect example of marketing being absolutely crucial

>>323281487
Only Nintendo item I have this gen is a 3ds but whatever helps you sleep at night.

The wiiu is the best 8th gen console, though.

Ps4 is decent, with bloodborne, Horizon, Gravity rush, and GR2, horizon and last guardian upcoming, but that's about it. It has Gundam and Jojo if you are into that too.

Xbone has MCC, Halo 5, and Recore and Scalebound, but that's about it.

Meanwhile, Wiiu has smash, Bayo 2/1, MK8, Hyrule warriors, W101, Xenoblade, splatoon, and will have Zelda

I don't even own a wiiu yet, I do haven an xbone though as my halo machine.

>>323281558
>Apple are a perfect example of marketing being absolutely crucial
Got that right, I've tried getting my sister to realise apple release over priced and old tech but she won't accept it.

>>323273403
Nintendo need to realise that the kids they're pandering to are either playing Minecraft on their tablet or getting their mom to but them CoD anyway.

All Nintendo has is their core, which they shouldn't be fucking around with

>>323281494
Greatness never was free.

>>323281558
>Mate. That's why lol if the name and marketing was decent, people WOULD give a fuck about Nintendo. It has literally everything to do with name and marketing
Sure thing diaper wearer. It has NOTHING to do with those massive, glaring flaws to the system. It's the marketing.
> b-b-but ps4!
Is vastly superior to the Wii-u, as is all current gen consoles.

>>323281643
> pee-poo poo
> 8th gen

>>323281494
Thanks to the multi player being tied to plus they've stuck shit cheap games on all gen. They have no reason to do anything else. Sony are in the shit in terms of money, ps4 has been a gold mine and they wanna bleed it dry. There's no way we're going to see any games worth anything on ps+ until next gen now because no one is catching the ps4.

>>323281678
I can't tell if this is a buttflustered sonygger or a falseflag anymore.

I mean, no one in that chain of replies really focused on the ps4.

>>323281678
DELETE THIS. THE NX WILL BLOW PS4 OUT OF THE WATER.

>>323281772
You know they've already bumped up the price in Europe because they essentially have a monopoly there, right?

>>323267586

PSP was still rather successful, not a nintendo handheld level, but 76 million is not a bad number.

Worst marketing goes to the Atari Jaguar, they were super aggressive but they came to late in the bit wars and rode a dying horse.

>>323281678
Lol are you serious. Every system has glaring flaws you tit. Deny it all you like, I don't give a shit but anyone who knows their stuff realises marketing is important.

Hell Nintendo got it right with the wii, that system had flaws, was under powered as fuck, had mostly shit 3rd party bloatware but sold brilliantly. Very similar systems with underpowered hardware and a shit gimmick. They marketed one well and the other one terribly because they got fucking arrogant.

>>323281797
Lol welcome to /v/

It's great for shit posting but if you try and actually have a serious debate you quickly realise you'd get more sense out of a dog or something

>>323266657

Personally I blame it on the marketing.

There wasn't much and who the FUCK thought it was a good idea to call it a Wii(U)? I thought it was some shitty addition to the WIi when I first heard about it.

>>323282010
>Hell Nintendo got it right with the wii,
Lol no, they got lucky as it became a fad.

>>323282151
Thing is shitposters at least try to mage sense to drive it home.
This guy is something else.

>>323282231
Nah dude, they marketed the fuck out of the Wii. With the terrible e3's surrounding it it would never have taken off without the aggressive ads and such

>>323282231
Did I say it wasn't a fad? Lol it was shit. But it sold incredibly well. You do realise that, right?

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>be pc master race
>feel like trying something new
>get a handheld
>it ruins my hands and neck
>wii u looks fun but no friends to play with
>bloodborne looks amazing but costs $500
>lol xbone
What do?

>>323282213
>Personally I blame it on marketing
So youre an idiot who's plain wrong then, ok.
>>323282010
>Lol are you serious. Every system has glaring flaws you tit
yet none even remotely as huge as the wii-u.
>>323282151
> nintoddlers screaming "it's the marketing! It's the best console"
> serious debate
It's serious delusion at best.

>>323282380
Get a dice
1 and 3 are ps4
2 and 4 are wii u
5 is more games for whatever you have
6 is the xbone booby prize.

>>323282504
>So youre an idiot who's plain wrong then, ok.

Prove I'm wrong. Marketing is key.

>>323282380
>master race
>No friends

Gee I wonder why

>>323282504
>yet none even remotely as huge as the wii-u.
Paid online is a pretty glaring feature it's arguably the worst thing to hit console gaming along with the whole 30fps thing.

>>323282536
1-3, PS4
4-6, Wii U
7-9, new GPU
0, lol xbone

>>323282571
ITS THE MARKETING GUYS. THE WII U IS GREAT. ITS JUST THE MARKETING.

>>323282681

WiiU is shit. But the marketing was worse.

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>>323277884

>Xenoblade
You mean that RPG where you don't get mechs until half way into the game, and it's focused on gay anime characters and crying and emotions? Yuck.

>Splatoon
A shooter on a console is very off-putting, no matter what gimmick you put on it. I feel like I should discard it for this reason alone.

>Captain Toad
The Knack of the WiiU? Not very appealing. No challenge or replayability whatsoever.

>Kirby
rehashed to death, no challenge as well. A very overrated series.

>Devil's Third
See Splatoon.

>Fast Racing
Wipeout: Nintendo edition. I Think we have plenty of that in the industry.

>Mario Maker
A 60 dollar watered down Lunar Magic? Not too appealing.

Now I'm not saying that any consoles are better, but yeesh. I've honestly seen better selections in Steam Greenlight.

>>323282245
> h-h-he says Nintendo are at fault and their system is bad !?
> FAKKING SHITPOSTER IT IS THE FUCKING MARKETING REEEEEEEE
this is you.

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>>323282669
shiieeet
we GTX 960 now

>>323282681
Marketing can sell a shit product. Look at the xbone or the iPhone.

I just miss my old 360 with prototype and wolverine origins.

>>323282838
Wow your only real argument is against rehashed Kirby. Everything else is just pure bitching.

>fighting over videogame machines
>not accepting Nintendo makes some decent games despite its other flaws

>>323278287

He's trying to sound, smug, and condescending

That, or, he's doing a, text, based, Shatner impression

>>323282571
> Nintendo's online effort is literally "lolwut, what is online"
> useless unwieldly gimmick that only inflates the price
> overpriced
> underpowered
> no support because lolhardware
> not even Nintendo supports it in anything but a token manner
ITS THE MARKETING GAIZ.