>ITT: vidya with 10/10 gunplay

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>>323140189

>>323140189
F.E.A.R.
Black
Time Crisis post-2
Killing Floor 2
Resident Evil 4

>>323141735
>Black
Is this available on PC anywhere?

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>>323141857
Please tell us if you find it, that game was really fun

>>323141735
I would argue that gunplay in F.E.A.R. is more than alright, but certainly not 10/10, because guns lack animation and they used stock sounds.

>>323141857
God, PS2 is dirt cheap, it can be modified to run backups for a cheap price or you can buy the damn game for cheap too.

>>323141807

Jesus christ they fucked this series with a galactic sized dick. What the fuck. The first one was such good co-opan.

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>>323140189

>>323142058
>Playing the worst version

Speaking of Ps2 era stuff reminds me of Rogue Trooper. Truly awesome shooter.

>>323142058
I don't know if I could play a Playstation 2 fps in this era.

>>323140189
movies are not video games

>>323142078
Xbox version is a straight PS2 port with little enchantments, i also heard it had problems with rendering. Anyways the game was developed for PS2 as the main platform so you will get the experience developer wanted you to get if go with PS2 version.

>>323142253
>Better graphics
>Bette framerate
>Custom soundtrack support
>Get the shitty PS2 version!

Yeah, no

>>323142238
Then you can try killing yourself.

Project Reality

Insurgency
Receiver

Payday 2. Before it went to shit. You should be ashamed if you still play it.

I just got a 250 dollar mouse what pc FPS campaign should I play?

>>323142062

Me and a friend love the second game, since the morality choices are absolutely ridiculous and hilarious.

Like that one scene with the kid and the sniper rifle. You order him to get it, and then, in the middle of a massive firefight, the kid just stands up and starts cheering like a tusken raider. Then he gets shot and dies.

We laughed for a full minute, it was jut so ridiculous.

>>323140189
SWAT4

>>323142312
Textures and polycount are identical, Xbox version had washed out colors and the picture was less crisp because of the certain type of AA that was used. PS2 version just looks right. I have both PS2 and original Xbox.

Reciever
Far Cry 2 is...almost 10/10
Red Dead Redemption

>>323142651
>Far Cry 2
Mah nigga
The definition of a flawed gem
If only they had taken out malaria and the infinitely respawning checkpoints
Other than that it was a pretty good operator simulator

>>323142449
second insurgency shits cash

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say what you will, but Naughty Dog has gun play on lockdown
the multiplayer is 5/5 too but /v/ is too busy crying about lesbians to notice

>>323140189
ITS PAYNE

>>323143078
Don't know about MP, but SP is shit broken shit.
Also, gunplay in R6(older ones) was good.

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>>323140189
>the airport level
>dat everything

>>323142385
It would be less painful, that's for sure.

what's the recipe for 10/10 gunplay, /v/?

>>323143658
you're a big guy

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Can anyone rate this ones? Just about to start it up and am curious.

>>323142651
>Red Dead Redemption
What? The boring ass gunplay was pretty much the worst part of the game.

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Fight me

Far Cry 3

>>323143749
objectively wrong

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>>323142245
Well memed.

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>>323143759
>lazer weapons have recoil

>>323143717
Good effects and animations.
A focus on non-hitscan weaponry.
Good weapons that have a kick to them.

>>323140189

Binary Domain

Mass Effect 3

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>>323143928

>missing sound

the sound is literally the most important aspect and if you don't agree I will put you in the fucking ground

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>>323143759
>(You)

Bad Company 2 anyone? Dem bolt-lock snipers.

>>323143717
Mostly sound, then animation and ballistics imo.

>>323143880
>sit behind cover shooting heads like it's your average third person shooter
>shoot re-spawning hoards of riders that offer you no challenge what so ever

That's not to mention how trite the thing becomes if you ever use deadeye or auto-centering.

It's not terrible or anything. But it's by no means a good system.

>>323144023
I was counting that under effects. But yes, you are right.

>>323143983
This.

Destroying the robots was so satisfying. Too bad I got it late so online was already DEAD on arrival. I got a server one time with actual players. There were only 3 of us.

So sad they never made a sequel when the ending was good for it.
Also wish it had a NG+ so we don't have to rebuild reppoire with partners

>>323142496
Or the girl that was apparently going to get raped if you ignore it but turns out she was a RUSSIAN SPY or something.

>>323144023
>>323143928
I also like when the game conveys the weapons have actual weight to them. That lightweight CoD-feel is the bane of all modern first person shooters.

>>323143759
>have an accuracy rating above 200
>aim down the sights center mass
>shot goes wide right

nah, go fuck yourself.

>>323143983
>>323144202
For some reason at first I thought you were talking about Hard Reset and was gonna call you retarded fuckers.

Binary Domain was great. Really underrated.

RAGE gets an honorable mention for me. Maybe not 10/10, but immensely satisfying, if not a tad generic.

>>323143759
I think they've got the framework for great gun play but the way they've balanced guns leads to a tight but completely derivative modern FPS feel.

>>323144356
>Binary Domain was great.
pathetic gear of war clone that was pathetic to begin with- no

STALKER after modding it

Anyone else think the FEAR gunplay is pretty overrated?

Apart from like the shotgun most weapons feel pretty terrible.

I mean. In gameplay its still pretty good with the squad mechanics and slow-mo. But the actual weapons all feel pretty shit.

Metro. Best VSS simulator out there.

>>323144113
>>sit behind cover
casual

>>323143759
>make game third person shooter
>shot is decided by rng not where you're aiming
Nah.

BFBC2

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>>323141972
>because guns lack animation
The guns and player model are game world accurate and don't use stupid fucking "view models" with higher polygon counts like other games do.
View models that don't tell you when the gun is clipping in to and THROUGH map geometry.

>>323144541
People actually play Fallout in third person?

>>323140189
Red Orchestra 2

Manual bolting makes bolt actions very satisfying.

>>323144603
Doesn't really matter if it's in 3rd of 1st person, it's still shit.

>>323144603
>heavy customization based game
>lol play in first person
People are actually this retarded?

>>323144714
>selfie cancer culture

Sure buddy.

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>>323144517
>Apart from like the shotgun most weapons feel pretty terrible.
The shotgun is just as terrible as any other games' shotgun, because once again the pellet spead is completely fucked, aside from webm related range.

>>323143007
Does insurngency shit cash?

>>323144424

0/10 not even worth typing

>>323144771
>selfie
Fucking what? Kill yourself

>>323144424
(You)

>>323144815
hes saying all you do is look at your waifu.

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>>323144517
I do, I also think the game is mediocre at best and the level design is shit.

People got blinded by the slow mo gimmick.

>>323144909
Thanks for the autism translation

>>323144786
Is there any game (that isn't a military sim) that actually has shotguns with more realistic spread?

That is, the pellets don't fan out after 3 feet but actually hit close together?

>>323144714
You have alzheimers or something?
You don't need to see your character 100% of the time to notice the fairly bare-bones customization.

>>323142651
After testing, I think FC2 gunplay is shit. There are 2 type of recoil for weapons. "High" and "medium". Any weapon with "medium" recoil will have the same muzzle rise as any other weapon with "medium" recoil. Same for weapons with "high" recoil.

>>323145005
Better than seeing the shitty guns 100% of the time

>>323144984
Killing Floor has pretty good shotguns.

STALKER ones are decent as well, and I recall BFBC2 being good too.

>>323144517
the entire game is overrated. The level design kills it.

>>323145097
It really isn't. The game plays horribly through third person since precise shooting is key.

>>323145154
not to mention they copied slo-mo from maxpayne

>>323142471
Wolfenstein

>>323142471
Serious Sam
Wolfenstein new order/old blood
Shadow warrior

>>323145191
>fallout 4
>precise shooting is key
No it's not and how is shooting less percise in 3rd person? In first person you have a gun blocking half your screen when aiming because iron sights.

Far cry 1
Half life 2

Max payne 3 a shit

csgo has shit gunplay, y/n?

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>>323142471
Does anyone know where you can get large custom print mouse pads akin to that one website called wocstra which is just written backwards because of spam filter

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Games with shitty guns?
>terrible sounds on 90% if not 100% of the guns
>SWAT with thug aim

>>323145474
>Far cry 1
>10/10 gunplay
Huh, wuw!

>>323142651
>Far Cry 2 is...almost 10/10
Yeah, I really like the gunplay in this one too, especially the bolt action sniper

>>323145575
when it came out, DE felt very good

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The guns in Max Payne 3 feel like shit and the entire game is a fucking cover shooter. You're an idiot.

>>323145510
Thinking about it none of the GTA games have had especially nice gunplay. Not even GTAV.

>>323145191
>precise shooting is key
>shooting is decided by rng
kek

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>>323145681
>max payne
>cover shooter
>calling other people idiots

>>323145510
GTA 4. Going for anything other than headshots is a waste of time since enemies eat up bullets like candies. Then again, Max Payne 3 has the same problem.

>>323145681
>the entire game is a fucking cover
Someone didn't get good.

>>323142651
>Red Dead Redemption
It was a comfy game, but "press RT to win everything" fucking broke it. Especially the online.

>>323145681
Only if you're a babby who stays in cover

>>323145681
Having cover mechanics does not equal cover shooter.

I actually loved FC4 gunplay.

>>323145867
hitscan weapons, fast death, and slow movement, along with cover mechanics does.

>>323145887
GET HIM BOYS

>>323144984

Max Payne 3

you can actually watch pellest in slowmo hit targets, shit is cash

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>>323142496
Me and a friend laughed our asses off when you saved that old man from the Zoo I think and instead letting him stay in the prison and ended up being eaten by a Tiger after he was freed.

>>323145939
>hitscan
pretty sure it's not
>fast death
git gud

>>323145939
well, you know, you have to shoot fast not to die
did you play it on console by any chance?

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>>323145939
>hitscan weapons
>Max Payne 3
Didn't play it or full retard.

>>323145939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVUb1tVm_Oo
GIT GUD

Escape From Tarkov seems pretty promising. I'm sure someone here has the webm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmklF4az0pE

>>323144517
>>323145154
Agreed

>>323146061
Player skill is irrelevant to the fact that the game has fast death. Obviously if you're good at it you wont die as fast but its designed around that

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>>323146116
yea I baited you!!!! hahahaha! who's the retard now, wise guy!?

fucking rekt.

>>323146168
>Player skill is irrelevant to the fact that the game has fast death
This is the dumbest argument I have heard in weeks.

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>>323140189
>ITT: vidya with 10/10 gunplay

My top best FPS games are probably Painkiller and Serious Sam.
The guns feel SO FUCKING GOOD. In the last SS the rifle and pistol they start you with are kinda meh, but things get brutal soon enough.

The odd suggestion is the new Shadow Warrior. Guns arent too great, but for some retard reason this FPS has very satisfying sword fighting, with a simple, but meaty feeling combo system. I really enjoyed that one.

>>323146127
So this is stalker, but with americans on one team.

GOTY

>>323146168
>Player skill is irrelevant to the fact that the game has fast death.
> Obviously if you're good at it you wont die as fast
Come on now. This is just silly. Of course the game rewards better players with less deaths. What the fuck?

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>>323144215
That one pissed me off with that two sided coin nonsense.

>Side with that russian bro
>He's a rapist and you helped doom an innocent woman
>Rescue her
>lol jk she's a spy, you killed a good man and now she'll kill his family just for shits and giggles

>>323143759
>VATS accuracy nerfed so you are likely to miss a lot
>first person manual shooting still can miss even if your shot was aimed well

Its bad.

>>323146127
This vid makes it look like battlefield, the other one with the looting was more interesting, provided it's SP and not another shitty dayz clone.

Vanquish

haven't played a third person shooter that great since

MP3 was pretty good though OP

>>323145132
>STALKER ones are decent as well, and I recall BFBC2 being good too.
only if you load slugs, and then there are no "pellets" anymore

>>323146268
Why would you only respond to one sentence when there is two and the second elaborates on it as if I never said it? Yes, in that one sentence what I said doesn't work. If you are good at the game you will die less like in any game but objectively speaking you dont have a lot of health proportionate to the amount of damage enemies do to you and the game is designed around that health and damage system

>>323146343
I agree, so repeating what I said back to me doesn't mean anything.

>>323143759
It had surprisingly good gunplay

Call of Juarez: Gunslinger

>>323146282
What AM i looking at?

>>323146506
>The game is designed about the player being good.
This is the essence of your argument. Do you understand how stupid you sound? Jesus.

For FPS it used to be Bioshock Infinite.

Now the king is Destiny, and things will stay that way for a looooong time.

>>323146650

underageb&

>>323146604
One of the design flaws of the human brain.
There is an objectively correct solution here, and its the one people dont take, even those who can recognize it.

>ctrl+f mass effect 2
>0
Fucking neo /v/

>>323146604
Visual representation of the classic prisoner's dilemma, which is used to demonstrate a Nash equilibrium.

>>323146717
>>323146650
xd

>>323146650
It's not even b8
Nobody can be this retarded

>>323146717
>gears of war in space
pls kid

>>323143167

WHACK 'IM

>>323146715
It's more flaw of human nature than the human brain, the brain is being completely logical in its choice, people just aren't trusting.

>>323146787
>>323146758
We talking about gunplay, not about your feelings getting hurt

>>323146715
>One of the design flaws of the human brain.

its not a fault of the human brain, its just a situation in which the "correct" solution is the shitty one, since there is no way to enforce an agreement to collude and the benefit of selling out is too great

you can solve that problem if both criminals are a part of the same mafia, then the equilibrium choice is for both to stay silent

>>323144225
If you are missing in this game you are retarded

>>323146506
Then how is "fast deaths" an actual reason why it's a cover-based shooter when good players don't need to worry about it?

>>323146856
>human nature
its in the brain
>people arent trusting
thats the brain too

>>323146905
its a problem that has a correct solution, which everyone can see outside of the situation
but when in that situation, everyone picks the wrong choice

the way to solve it is to make the choice before the situation arises, like you said to already know for a fact how you will act, and not have to decide it on the spot

the same reason people dont rush the gunman committing a shooting, even though they outnumber him greatly, and some are behind him. however a trained professional who already knows he'd rush, like a policeman or a soldier, has already made the decision beforehand and can act on it

>>323140189
Try Bulletstorm, it's surprisingly addictive once you know how to kill, with styles.
>>323144202
Yes, it has the same problem with Dark Sector (Warframe prototype) but the game is fun, you can upgrade your main weapons and pick your nanochip, also Trust level.
You can shoot the legs to make them slower, shoot their hands to disarm them or shoot their head to make them shoot their own comrades. Cheesy one-liners and multiple endings. Graphic is pretty good even with weak PC.
>it's not murder if it's not human

>>323146856
>It's more flaw of human nature than the human brain
I didn't know human nature originated in some other organ.

>>323145736
GTA IV felt so satisfying with all the gore and hilarious ragdoll physics

I actually really enjoyed Resistance 3 gunplay. The guns felt so satisfying, even though enemies took a lot of bullets.

>>323147116
>if the rng isn't in your favor you are retarded

>>323146865
Mass Effect 3 did nothing but improve the gunplay in the 2nd. What are you even doing?

>>323146715
How is there an objectively correct solution when you have no idea if you can trust the other person or not?

>>323146865

mass effects gunplay isn't that good

>>323147753
The correct solution is clearly for both of you to do whats best for both of you, which is to keep silent.

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>>323147136
I think you're misunderstanding the problem. The real point of this is too illustrate the behavior of oligopolies, because people/companies have their individual welfare at heart rather than the welfare of the industry. Replace the jail time with monetary values representing profit (lower jail-time equals higher profit) and you'll see what I mean, here's a classic example using airline ticket fairs.

>>323147753
Because it's not supposed to have a real correct solution, it's just a thought experiment for people to jerk each other over.

>>323147818
But I can spend 0 years in jail if I confess and he stays silent, and if he talks I'll get 20 if I stay silent compared with just 5. It's always best for me to confess.

>>323147963
>if you confess you are 0 or 20 years in
>average of 10 years in and lose a friend
>if you both keep quiet you get 1 year and keep your mate

>>323147818
That doesn't work because you have to make the decision for yourself. The outcome is based entirely on luck.

>>323148079
>implying it's a friend and not just an accomplice

Killzone 2 felt really great, not all games have to be fast twitch shooters.
Then they decided to fuck up the only good thing of 2 in the sequels.

>>323148079
No, if you confess you are 0 or 5 years in. If you don't confess you are 1 or 20.

>>323148079
Check out my earlier post>>323148079

The real value of this scenario is to explain the behavior of large companies in the economy and why cartels are difficult to maintain.

Here's a good scene from a Beautiful Mind that illustrates this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CemLiSI5ox8

>>323148130
>committing crime worthy of 20 years jail time with random people

You are a dummy.

>>323148174

>Killzone 2 reviews
>Waaaahhhh the gunplay is sluggish and slow
>Killzone 3 and shadowfall hae tighter gunplay
>Waaaahhhh this game doesn't do anything different

KZ2 was great anon, good taste

>>323148174
>Killzone 2

Literally the worst FPS I've played in my life.

I gave it away to my cousing because I wanted to puke just by looking at the case.

>>323144517
Dont agree because the AI is one of the best and i think it adds to gunplay

>>323148267
>criminals are smart
wew lad

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Spec Ops: The Line is not really "the best, gunplay is pretty mediocre. But god, firing this baby is so satisfying.

>>323148267
>implying criminals can have friends and not just professional acquaintances that will rat you out at the first opportunity

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Absolutely no game can beat how satisfying Perfect Dark's weapons are
>that diversity
>those animations
>those SFX
>those reloads
>special abilities on each gun
The gunplay might be tedious at times, but the guns are just so satisfying.

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>>323142651
>FC2
>shooting enemies in the leg so that they fall on the ground and their allies get out of cover to come get and carry them
>after an exchange of fireshots, hunting the remaining enemies in the buildings with a machete
>throwing random flares in the savanna to remove grass cover and burn unlucky mercs
>running in the jungle dodging shells while trying to find where the mortar guy is
>this fucking glorious ending
Yet full of game breaking bugs and repetitive missions

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>>323148673
>only 3 opportunities in the game to use it
>all of them so close to the end of the level it's over before you can enjoy it
>two of them in an open area where you can't really enjoy how vicious it is
>one of them at the literal end of the game and can be completely skipped
Criminal.

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If you disagree, you're probably just a sonygger,

>>323149220
Or just someone with taste.

>>323149117
>shoot enemy in leg
>his mate comes to rescue him
>shoot that one in leg too
>throw molotov next to them
>watch as the fire consumes them
The game had its moments

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>>323148673
>the deagle parts

>>323149220
Any console FPS is automatically shit.

>>323143743
9/10
would r8 ag4in

>>323143917
But they increase the light velocity w/ gun powder

>>323140189
Pic related, Red dead redemption, battlefield bad company 2/3; insurgency and red orchestra (but they are realistic tho), far cry 3/4; call of juarez gunslinger. And fallout 4 lol. If you mean realistic damage tho, very few of those remain.

>>323147160
>I didn't know human nature originated in some other organ.
You don't know the fucking dick?

>>323150125
There is not a single game that does realistic human shooting. As in visually, like gore. I wonder why.

>ctrl + f Darkness 2
Fuck's wrong with y'all?

>>323150303
I'm pretty sure thoughts don't originate in the dick, correct me if I'm wrong.

>>323146036
Honestly, Max Payne 3 got gunplay right from the get-go. Because enemies wear more and more armor, you start targeting their limbs or head, and any weapon is viable. From the no-spread pistols, to the power weapons like the Magnum and M14, to Uzis, AKs and shotguns, diving through a window and just blowing away two enemies before hitting the ground and turning over as you headshot a third that peeks around the corner. Every weapon is viable, it's all about what you bring to a gunfight and how you handle them rather than the usual pop-and-go most shooters do nowadays. And since basically anyone can kill you real fast if you're a goddamn moron you're encouraged to always be on the move and shooting people as soon as possible.

>>323150547
My dick does the thinking half the time though.

>>323150519
Really faggot? If anything the first one should be mentioned.

>>323150380
Because calculating the damage would require a lot of processing power, that's why the games that actually had gore like that was precalculated, or simple.

>>323150638
No it doesn't, it's your brain.
Do you also think your gut warns you when something is going wrong?

Metro 2033 (not last light or redux)
Red orchestra 2/ Rising storm

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>>323150380

>>323144090
Best gun feel in the Battlefield games I've played, shame the community is almost zero

>>323145787
Well he's right - Max Payne 3 IS a cover shooter. There's no possible way you could debate that.

>>323145132
You either needed to play shotgun recon or put slugs on pump action shotguns for them to be usable. Not that shotgun recon wasn't the most fun and useful way to play recon in the game.

>>323151135
>being able to take cover makes it a cover shooter
By that logic smash is a fighting game.

>>323150380
Well red dead had that to an extent. They nailed the old guns shooting- there was gore, and almost every revolver/rifle was one hit kill to the upper chest, but the accuracy and range was different. The entry point versus exit point of the bullets looked amazing there and in max payne 3. Can't remember gta V, but since the engine is the same, it's possible. As far as overboard gore goes I remember soldier of fortune series.

>>323151135
seriously?

>>323151135
It's a cover shooter where enemies become hyperaggressive and will fuck you up if you use cover
a big point in Max Payne 3 is that all the enemies utilize tactics assuming their enemy is sensible and stay in cover, but Max is a dumb american who's too depressed to care about getting shot and so he does exactly what they don't expect (which is running straight into their fire)

>>323148298
How could anyone actually like the controls in Killzone 2? There was so much fucking input lag.

>>323150547
Things that manipulate thoughts exist in the balls.

>>323144090
Good night sweet prince, this game was too good for this world.

>>323151330
Yes, the fact that you can take cover makes it a cover shooter. How the fuck is that hard to grasp? Just because you choose to play it without using cover,(which is impossible, by the way - because the game automatically puts you into cover at many points in the game), doesn't magically change the game's genre.
Doom is an fps regardless of weather or not you choose to fire your weapon at enemies.

>>323151617
In the stomach too, but they don't create thoughts directly, it's the brain.

>>323151783
I guess halo is a driving game then, since you use vehicles at some parts.

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>>323151912
If Halo let you interact with vehicles at literally any point during the campaign or multiplayer, maybe you'd have a point.

>>323143759
Much better than Fallout 3/NV, but still only acceptable.

>>323150678
Woah there, you probably think TNO has good gunplay, don't you?

>>323151459
>Max is a dumb american who's too depressed to care about getting shot and so he does exactly what they don't expect (which is running straight into their fire)

That's brilliant.

>>323150617
Good game.
Liked how even if they were wearing helmets you could get a headset by hitting exposed areas around the mouth.

Too bad the game lacked content.
After the short campaign all there is to do is replay the same kennels with challenges.
They should have had different levels made for the Arcade mode and maybe even a survival mode (I like them, sue me).

>Stalker Franchise
>FEAR
>Max Payne 3
>GTA V (First Person)
>Payday 2
>Battlefield 4
>Killing Floor 2
>CoJ: Gunslinger

There, I /thread'd

>>323152782
> and maybe even a survival mode
You do realise that there is a survival mode in MP3, right?

>>323152782

I like survival modes too but I don't think it would work with a game like max payne, where alot of the fun comes from you running into rooms and clearing them as opposed to waiting for enemies to come to you

>>323153642
The survival mode in Max Payne 3 is okay, especially with a friend, but it doesn't feel the same.

The enemies don't react as fluidly when shot and after a while everyone is wearing armor and helmets. We also started hitting serious lag and delay.

Black
Max payne 3
Metro
Vanquish
Wolfenstein
Killing floor 1
Receiver
Resistance 3
Ratchet and clank ACIT
Shadow warrior
Bulletstorm
Soldier of fortune
CoJ: Gunslinger
Hard reset
Painkiller
Call of cthulhu: dark corners of the earth

>>323145492

Yes

reliable but doesn't feel good at all

Personally I thought dead space 2 felt fantastic to play, guns felt very accurate and powerful, also the sound design and the way enemies reacted made the weapons feel really powerful

>>323154072
This
DS2 GOTYAY

>>323154072

>mfw I loved the setting and guns of Dead space
>thought the shoot limbs gimmick was pretty smart
>somehow ended up having all 3 on origin for free
>i turn into a vagina from any horror video game and quit in 20~ minutes tops

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>>323154072
The Javelin gun fells fucking fantastic to use, I just can't use anything else.

>>323154596
I personally love the contact beam
>one hit kills basically everything
>that charge up
>that firing
>that reload animation
It does strange things to my dick

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>>323143759

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>>323144028
>spoiling the joke in the filename

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>>323146259
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>323145939

>Hit scan

Not true, every bullet is modeled and the eupohria physics engine simulates contact and velocity pretty well

>Fast death

No joke, but get fucking gud son

>Along with cover mechanic does

Yes you can take cover, but more often than not it's so you can take a breather from running and gunning and shoot dodging (which you can actually use to travel from cover to cover

It also added a nice amount of weight and nuance to the gun fights that made max feel like he really was older, heavier but still somewhat spry

>>323144090
Dat mp412 revolver
Dem shootgun slug sniper rounds
Dat tommy gun

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>>323149965
Is it actually?
Not that guy but I've got an origin code lying around and am fucking fiending for a game with good gunplay that I haven't already played.

Vanquish and Binary Domain are pretty damn good.

Action Quake 2 which is now Urban Terror is great too.

>>323142471
Fucking pleb a mouse with perfect tracking only costs $50, what a stupid waste of money

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>>323144090
>New PC doesnt have an optical drive
>My code can't be redeemed on origin

>>323156328
50 bucks is already a waste of money for a mouse.

>>323145736
>>323145736
>>323145790

The "Rockstar formula" is horrible for third person shooters imo. The only two games I really liked from them were Red Dead and LA Noire, mostly for the story. The whole left-rigger right-trigger thing is boring as fuck and there is very little diversity in enemies.

>>323155896

God no, gunplay may be okay but its basically taking BC2 into tiny codesque tiny maps and shoot eachother in the back

Its one terrible fucking shooter

>>323156401

$50 for ideal comfort for your main gaming device is not a lot, precise controls are just a bonus

>>323156372
>My code can't be redeemed on origin


Then its a steam code?
What are you saying?

>>323156372
I have physical copy and downloaded it using EA download manager or something like that.

>>323156587
Well fuck.

Any good modern games with gunporn?
I tried to replay SOF2 the other day and got pretty sad at how much shittier it was than I remember.

>>323156745
Origin says it's already been redeemed.
I assume it's tied to some old EA account I made when I played it originally when Origin didn't even exist.
Support was no fucking use at all.

>>323156830
I'll give that a look, cheers.

>>323156984

Thats the exact reason why I'm not replaying SoF, dat body destruction though

I remember playing SoF2 multiplayer beta too or something, was pretty fun

>>323156984

Yeah SOF2 hasn't aged that well

shooting limbs off in that game is still pretty neat

>>323157097

Well bar support I have no idea what you can do, they usually help out - especially if you can give them proof of the physical copy

Afraid EA Downlaod manager IS origin, when they released origin it was barely more than an update to the download manager.

>>323157097
If you have an old EA account you can log into Origin with that.

I did it with an EA account I had for the retail version of BFBC2.

Is Bound in Blood good?

>>323157279
I figured that might be the case.

Oh well.

>>323157379
Problem is I've got no idea what the original account was.

>>323157389
Quite.

I'd say all the western CoJ games are worth playing.

>>323157389

I liked it, I'd say it is good gunplay for that western feeling, also pretty fun online, and a great cover system

The only CaJ game I liked

>>323157479

If you wanna play anyway, BC2 is dirt cheap on key sites for steam
Its definitely my favorite battlefield game from the post BF2 ones

>>323157389

It was okay, actually had a cover system that worked for first person

Gunslinger is still my favorite though because it was straight to the point and told it's story in a very creative and fun way

>no ARMA in the entire thread

I'm a sucker for realism and ARMA 2 made my dick hard any time I shot one of the weapons.

>>323157731
Arma's only problem is it's janky as fuck.
I mean that doesnt matter much as a milsim but it's annoying and doesn't make for a great "game."

Oh and the HORRIFIC optimisation.

>>323157731

Arma 2 is great but it didn't exactly have the best feel mechanically

amazing sound though, I'll give it that

>>323140189
dude i love it when guys soak up shots to the heart and don't die

DUDE HEADSHOTS OR DEATH LMAO

>>323144786
Seeing this makes me excited for SUPERHOT, I heard they'll have a replay at the end which replays your run at normal speed

How was FarCry 4?
3 was a mixed bag of improvements from 2 but also did a lot of things worse.

>>323158443

exactly the same as 3 just blander
no story
linear unlocks all useless
all the same tasks repeat forever

you'll be flying around in a gyrocopter shootingeverything with a grenade launcher
which sounds fun for 20 minutes but not for 40 hours

>>323158039
Dare I suggest that it isn't a bad thing that a game that is made by its smooth controls requires you to exercise these and have pinpoint precision?
>>323158443
Far Cry 4 is Far Cry 3 again.

>Far Cry 2
How do I diamond?

>>323158443
its just a copy of 3. They even tried to copy the insane villain but did it much worse

>>323158756
>>323158645
>>323158619
But what about the guns tho

Admittedly I had more fun in 3 doing the completionism stuff than the story.

>>323158828

the same, again, its a copy of 3

I personally used them very little, since explosives+bow was better.

funny how the bow is pinpoint precise while the guns are not

>>323140189
Didn't get this at all. Max Payne 3 felt completely average in the gameplay department I thought. I only played for about 90 minutes though. Does it get any better?

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>>323145939
>hitscan
>you can follow individual bullets

Why do people are ignorant and retarded as you even think it's a good idea to post?

The flashback missions in this cock tease how awesome a next-gen max payne would be.

>>323154072
Hell yes.
>force gun
>physics shotgun with tiny range and massive spread
>has spread, so you hit every limb at the same time
>is physics shotgun, so it pushes things
>at max power, kills most basic enemies in 1 hit
>fire into a crowd of basic necromorphs from point blank range
>instakill + mass dismembering + physics push
>ridiculous amount of limbs sent bouncing all over the room

>>323152212
Halo has entire levels dedicated to vehicles, what are you fucking talking about?

>>323158952
Oh.
That's a shame.

Might just pirate it anyway, 3's challenges and stuff were fun enough time wasters.

>>323159453

Its not unplayable, I got to 79% before I gave up - and I was indulging my autistic side by doing the collectathon thing

I got tired of doing the dream sequences, you get everthing taken away and have to do some long quests with a piece of shit bow and a shit animal "go kill" with you

Its probably what far cry primal will be

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How could a simple shooting mechanic be so good?

>>323158645
DUDE
HEADSHOTS
OR
DIE
LMAO

THAT IS SO FUN
I LOVE RE-LOADING A CHECKPOINT FOR THE 8TH TIME BECAUSE THE GUY I SHOT DIDN'T DIE
I LOVE THE ENEMIES PIN-POINT ACCURACY
DUDE, SMOKE GRENADE SECTION LMAO
DUDE, BUS COVER SIMULATOR LMAO
I LOVE HOW YOU GET FLANKED UNLESS YOU GO BALLS-DEEP AND GET HEADSHOTS
1=2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3
at least in 1 or 2 it didn't fucking matter where I hit the mooks all that mattered was making a badass slo-mo jump and twitch shooting everyone like in an action movie

at least they didn't fall down and GET BACK UP AND KEEP SHOOTING

>>323159656
I couldn't give two fucks about the story honestly, 3 already proved that they gave up on writing anything well.

It should have been a lock with that premise.

Primal sounded like shit from the getgo and they haven't proven me wrong yet.

>>323144984
Battlefield 3/4 isn't exactly 100% realistic, but they give shotguns actual range.

>>323159887

Problem is the gameplay is terribly fucking repetitive and the most fun I could have with it is "how much I can cheese this"
The unlocking is a shit incentive because by the time you unlock the strongest weapons you only have a few story missions to use them on (since you have to progress them to unlock the map and a few other things)

So the game becomes tedious as fuck very fast, the AI is dumb as shit and going around the gigantic map just becomes boring very fast.
It would be good if you could follow some story in the meantime, care about some characters, or if your character HAD some fucking personality.
Instead you are basically a mute errandboy taking orders from anyone from beliggerent holy toothless niggers to "both" leaders of the resistance and who the fuck else is that guy on the radio

And the orders are always the same, kill or blow up everyone, maybe loot something after doing so.

I'm gonna have to agree on F.E.A.R., the gun parts in this game are easily 10/10
>that A.I.
>that shotgun kill satisfaction
>the slowmotion
>the nail gun corpses

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>>323157731
I would love it if a non janky game could do this sort of leaning

Hey, tell me something. I never touched a fps after the first ps3 wave until recently, when some friend made me try Farcry, Killzone 3 and Blood Dragon
fact is, I can't fucking play them. they feel sluggish as fuck, and aiming is a pain in the ass
do something happened with modern day fps, or its just me? I re-played Hexen and Doom this summer and I did perfectly fine

>>323161142
stop playing console fps

>>323160318
Not him
I played FC3 mainly by installing Ziggys mod, which makes the story optional and gives you much more freedom in general- guns are purchaseable from the beginning, you get the wingsuit right away, you can access both islands and move everywhere right away, it also removed lots of obnoxious UI stuff
The game basically turned into an open world mercenary hunting simulator that way, and to me it was much more enjoyable than vanilla
FC4 seems to have a similar mod

>>323161142
I guess you didn't play Hexen or Doom with a controller.

>>323157731
Thats probably because arma has fucking horrid gunplay

>>323161142
The Painkiller and Serious Sam series may be more to your taste.

>>323161142
Increase mouse sensitivity and fove

Stalker gunplay is shit

>>323160390

I wish I wasn't bad at Arma and Insurgency. I feel like I'm half blind in those games because I don't ever see anyone in firefights. I just fire randomly where I think they are and hope I get them or at least lay down supressing fire.

>>323161251

Never thought people bothered modding these to that extent, yeah, that probably makes it much better

Still, quite boring for me

>>323161242
Farcry was on pc. I couldn't even fucking tell the difference between the enemies and the background, they had the same fucking color saturation
>>323161386
not really, but I played until Resistance 1 pretty smooth
>>323161434
they are, I remember playing both ages ago
>>323161475
pad fammie

>>323161670
>play on gamepad
>why does it feel sluggish
Anon what

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Y/N?

>>323152173
he looks like bruce willis in die hard. jsut with beard.

>>323161845
>no pc port
>not on ps3 psn market either

FOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE SONY YOU FUCKING CUNT

>>323140189

Good gunplay but shit gameplay.

>>323161845

Absolute yes

I hate how there hasn't been a proper sequel to this game because it's honestly one of the best shooters I've played, period

>>323161654
It's not something you play for 10 hours, qut it's quite fun for 10-20h

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>>323157731
Arma 3 + ACE3 + high quality weapon mods (like HLC) is fucking amazing. The way ACE models sniping too is probably the best seen in video games.

>>323162048
100 hours*

>>323161845

>That fucking cemetery level
>The bridge level
>That gulag level
>That ship dock level

I just fucking realized this game had awesome settings that made for some incredible shootouts

I'm gonna pick this up on the weekend, thanks for reminding me of this gem anon

>>323162048

You mean 10 hours at once?

That 79% on fc4 had to take atleast 35-45 hours or more, an entire playthrough will definitely get tedious, unless you are one of those who can spread out one game over half a year +

>>323159745
>waah I can't aim

>>323162052
not him but MP3 is pretty shit for gameplay.

Just hide behind a corner and as long as your reticle is on someone, you can shoot them.

Shooting through walls isn't great.

>>323161434
>putting that yawnfest on the same level with Sam.

>>323162181
No, I actually meant 10 hours in total
But I just noticed that I got 114 goddamn hours in Far Cry 3
Even assuming that half of those are idle, which is every generous, that's multitudes more than I expected, what the hell
I did go through the campaign once though, but that doesn't take particularly long iirc

>>323162052

Bullet time is excruciatingly slow, hardly any weapons, melee is mini-cutscene every time, sluggish movements, and awkward collision on everything if you even get near it while jumping. But hey the guns sounded and felt cool when you shot them.

>>323162426
>>323162426
in my experience taking cover got you flanked and raped, you had to be constantly diving in and outmaneuvering to survive

so try again, mp elitist

>>323159745

So you sucked, okay

Cleared that smoke grenade part without dying on hard difficulty

Also you didn't always aim for the scalp because they started wearing helmets, so you would have to aim for the neck or mouth area

And of course your enemies got up after a couple shots, newsflash; so could max. Sorry the game wasn't like CoD where enemies die in one shot

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this is the best guns have felt in the CoD series
don't know how it was on consoles but on PC this felt sharp as fuck. Preferred the way movement felt in these over how it felt in BlOps, too, but BlOps was pretty decent.

>>323161845
I enjoyed it a lot

>>323162521
>Bullet time is excruciatingly slow
how?
>hardly any weapons
so a bunch of reskins would make the gameplay better, come on now give me something to work with
>melee is mini-cutscene every time
yes
>sluggish movements
no
>and awkward collision on everything if you even get near it while jumping
no again
>But hey the guns sounded and felt cool when you shot them.
true and it was the epitome of max payne gameplay

10/10 bait though max payne elitism alwys gets me, muh noir muh nora muh etc fuck gameplay though amirite? its all about hte story except when you praize the dork sousl

>>323162526
I played through it once on PS3 a few months after release. I only remember there being a handful of parts where that wouldn't work.

But it still worked online, which is retarded. I also haven't liked R*'s shooting mechanics since GTA4

>>323162741
>ps3

oh........

Insurgency, ArmA 3 and Battlefield 4, for arcade gunplay are my favourites.

>>323162441

Well yeah if you went for only the main quests you could probably do each under 10 hours, but as the story blows chunks and basically is the worst part of these games (atleast in fc4, since takes away your options to approach attacking your own way) that isn't worth much.

The only fun I had in the game is attacking bases in different roundabout ways and the autistic collecting, both of these take quite long, even if you go around with the gyrocopter all the time to do all sidemissions/collecting its still hours to just clear a portion of the map.

I'm realizing my issue in these games is that I enjoy myself the most at the start playing around with the mechanics - and then get burnt out and tired by the second half when I actually have unlocked all the "cool" stuff.
I'm like 70% done with shadow of mordor too, which is the same thing, I'm now god-legolas but cba to keep playing, while I played tons when I had only 30% of my abilities

Finished Mad Max but cleared the map way before I got all car upgrades.

>>323162660
>this is the best guns have felt in the CoD series
>CoD
Sorry, we're talking about games with "good" gunplay

>>323162784
When it came out, I had like a 100gb internet cap per month (canuck land) and no fucking way was I going to download a 35gb game

>>323162228
>needing to aim for the face in 2 or 3
>believing in this bullshit
>thinking someone can take 7.62x39 to the chest and get back up perfectly fine

D U D E H E A D S H O T S L M A O

Gee I could hit the mooks in 2 and 1 perfectly fine I wonder why I'd need to have fun getting bulletsponged to death

>>323162609
i would have been perfectly fine with no painkillers as long as the enemies FUCKING DIED WHEN I HIT THEM

>>323162906
do it, its worth it

also speaking of R* shooting mechanics, the ones in gta might have always sucked, but rdr was rock solid especially for a console shooter

just my 2 bits

>>323140189
i played on pc first and love it

then later a friend gave it to me on Ps3

it made me realize 3 things

why everyone hates Max payne 3, why mobile games are popular and all console players are dirty casuals

>>323162521

>Bullet time is excruciatingly slow

No way, you mean to tell me BULLET TIME was slow?

>hardly any weapons

What? They covered all the bases; Pistols, machine pistols, machine guns, rifles, even rocket launchers etc. And there seemed to be at least two of each kind. More doesn't mean better, either.

>melee is mini-cutscene every time

Beats the clunky, awkward melee combat we'd typicallt see in third person shooters.

>sluggish movements

The game controlled greatly apart from getting up after a dive, other than that it was responsive. As for it being slow, I'm sure that was intentional considering max's age and condition.

>and awkward collision on everything if you even get near it while jumping.

Then don't make retarded dives? No shit there's awkward collisions, you try diving into a wall and seeing how you end up. The game isn't just gonna let you go willy nilly with his dive. Max even reacted accordingly if you collided into an object.

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This to be honest with you

I honestly cant even decide what is more comfy, shooting some terror-ass with a supressed FAL or OPEN FLASH AND CLEAR

>>323162858
Yeah pretty much. The wingsuit is really fun, and capturing bases or assaulting cars on the road can also occupy you for a while.
That mod I talked about helps with the 'get cool shit at endgame' aspect though, since you can get it much earlier if you save up for it.

>>323162713
Not the anon you're replying to, but:
>Bullet time is excruciatingly slow
how?
Not only do you not get much, but the timescale is too low and you don't get enough, the bullettime is now smaller and tighter, instead of being slower and more methodical


>sluggish movements
no
Oh i'm sorry you want to dive over cover? too bad you hit something

>and awkward collision on everything if you even get near it while jumping
no again
Literally no excuse, not even you have an argument

>But hey the guns sounded and felt cool when you shot them.
true and it was the epitome of max payne gameplay
Gunplay* not gameplay

>>323162976

I agree with you mang, I often found myself shooting people and turning to the next guy only to see that the 7-10 hits on them actually weren't lethal enough.

>>323161972
criterion are dead and it's a fucking shame

no more burnouts, no more experimenting with games that boil genres down to the core of what makes them fun

just NFS after NFS until EA decides they're done with them

Don't get me wrong, I even liked Hot Pursuit, but it's just not the same.

>>323163163
so git gud? all these complaints are you playing poorly, probably on console too

i mean shitttttttttttttt, i wanted to pick it up on ps3 when it was on sale + rdr but fuck that, play shooters for how they are intended son and stop being a fuccboi

>>323161845
>6 AK shots to the head to kill someone on hard dificulty
other than that this game is THE SHIT

>>323162976
The ones in 1 and 2 were bullet sponges too frankly

Just get a mod, pretty much all FarCry games got a mod to increase bullet damage

What was wrong with Max Payne 3:
Atmosphere didn't match up to 1 and 2
Forced
DUDE HEADSHOTS LMAO even when it didn't matter in 1 and 2
Clunky movement
New diving system
Smaller Bullet Time and slower instead of being longer and a bit faster
Enemies are Bullet Sponges without golden weapons
DUDE BODYARMOR LMAO
There are no other guns than automatic ones
>people like this game
>even DEFEND it

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>>323140189
Destiny. Please don't mistake me as saying the game is anything but high octane shit but the gunplay is on fucking point.

The original Gears of War is pretty top shelf, too. Also the Metro series.

>>323162660
>not WaW
fuck that was was the only good one
you take the light machine gun and can cut people legs off

>>323163276
hot pursuit was great

everything after... not so much

And now they went with ken fucking flock, NFS will suck even more

>>323161652

That's part of the challenge and fun.

>>323163367
at least when you shot them they stayed down

>>323163079
Fucking goat game, but lets be honest. The gunplay was pretty lackluster.

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>>323162976
>this hollywood "one torso shot downs them immediately" bullshit
stay far away from /k/

>>323163276

>You'll never get a beautiful next-gen burnout game
>No BLACK sequel with online and co-op multiplayer

Criterion was such a fucking good studio, this and the fact that EA sports BIG isn't a thing anymore really makes me sad as hell

I liked hot pursuit too, but that was so obviously meant to be a burnout game

>>323163368
>i'm shit at the game therefor its a shit game

Yeah nah mp3 > mp1/2 gameplay wise and you literally cannot prove me wrong, suck a big fat one senpai

>>323162713

>how?
Dude, bullet time shouldn't be "here's 30 seconds to look at their heads." MP1 had the perfect action film speed. MP2 was stupid with how it pretty much didn't slow down at all until you killed somebody. MP3 is just way too slow.
>so a bunch of reskins would make the gameplay better, come on now give me something to work with
No melee weapons, no launcher weapons, no snipers, no grenades/molotovs. All there is a bunch of pistols, shotguns, and assault rifles that all feel the same. The weapon hold limit, while I don't dislike it, made this aspect feel worse.
>no again
The collision size on objects was definitely too big in some cases, made shootdodging very unenjoyable in crowded areas.