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Because it' good, simply.

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>>322723440
Bart instantly gives free points

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>>322723440
>caring about reviews

>>322723440
Paid reviews.

>>322723440
>Fucking how?
It's called Hype, just look Metroid other M

>>322723440
Because paid reviews, but to be fair it gets more flak than it deserves. It's a mediocre game but most people hated it with a passion due it failing to live to the insane hype pre-release.

I just Hope the same doesn't happen with XV.

>MGSV
>10/10
>game is unfinished, boring and repetetive

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>>322723440
Literal hype. The reviewers are forced to stick to their score to seem legitimate but if you asked anyone else at any of the places they would of course give a more reasonable score.

Reviewers play games before the public reaction is known so they give out 9's and 10's because it's always safer (and more beneficial to a publication) than thinking critically. Skyward Sword and Phantom Pain are also good examples of this.

>>322725404
This, MGSV is basically the same as Hyperdimension Neptunia without the cute anime girls.

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>>322725490
>masterpiece 10/10
>has a con

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Lightning is a 100/10

Fucking how

>>322725404
And let's not forget MGS4 got perfect scores across the board too, and reviewers were forbidden by Konami to talk about the game's flaws i.e cutscene length.

>>322726031
Toriyama magic.

>>322726141
Well, MGS4 wasn't bad game just short game.

>>322726317
The story was a complete and utter trainwreck, on par with the Star Wars prequels.

>>322726031
Cloud was hot.
FemCloud is hot.

I'm going to marry Lightning!

>>322723440
I liked it

>>322723440
How? Because it was actually good game. This game gets way more flack than it deserves. People just hate on it because bandwagon bullshit. Most people just sack on the same 1 or 2 arguments over and over again.

>>322727679
Here's your fucking reply. Are you happy?

>>322723440
Asked some faggot on ff14 how he liked the most linear FF game.
his response
>"if it isn't linear then i'd become lost"

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>>322727168
Serious though, who wore it better

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>>322723440
See here OP >>322727679.
>A good game got good reviews? Fucking atrocity this is!

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>>322723440
>mfw replaying 13-2

>>322727679
no people hate it because the combat is horrible. I tried 3 times to like it.

>>322727983
>breasts
Hardly a challenging question.

>>322723440
Power of hype and it honestly is nowhere near as bad as the meme goes.

It's not amazing but it has a cool world and a rather unique battle system. Plus the FMVs are terrifyingly pretty.

>>322724457

Why does the smug face on the left so punchable

>>322723440

I'm playing through this now.
The story is shit. The gameplay feels like it was designed to be a phone game.
But for some reason I can't stop playng this shit.
It's linear as fuck, there's 0 strategy, but I just can't stop playing.

Also Sazh is the most human character so far

>>322728528
>Sazh
One of the most underrated characters ever.

>>322728528
0 strategy? bollocks desu. you probably haven't finished disc 1, even then there are some bosses or enemy formations that require some form of strategy

>>322728528
>>322728719
Holy shit you guys are great. He's criminally underused. A great character in a disappointing game.

>>322728772
Let him go com/rav/rav the whole game anon, I dare him. Here that no strategy dumbass? I dare you to go Relentless Assault the whole game, the whole game.
>>322728528
But, but, hes black.

>>322729072
literally wouldn't be able to finish 1/2 of disc 1 without switching dude wtf are you even serious

>>322728772

I'm not sure. So far most of the strategy I had so far has been Paradygm shift and Libra. Some buffs here and there.
I really don't feel like I'm doing many tactics. Maybe later in the game.

>>322728719
>>322729020
>>322729072

Sazh just feels like a regular dude. That's why I like him.
He is not trying to be a hero, or pretend to be happy, or being an emo, he is just a dude with a chocobo on his head.

Friend told me Sazh was the most annoying and boring character in the game and it made me mad

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>>322723651
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>322723440
Because every site looked like related pic for several months

Hyped games with bigger fanbase get high scores by default.

>>322728146
>the combat is terrible
>i tried 3 times to like it

sucks to be you I guess. game was great and so was the combat, but it's obviously not for everyone

>>322729679
Eating shit is not for everyone but it doesn't make it good.

>>322727679
>muh bandwagonning
No.

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>>322727679
>Because it was actually good game

The entire story can be summed up with "we have no clue what we're doing" and ends with a literally "power of friendship" ass pull like the story was made for children. Clap your hands, boys and girls!

The combat system was also a joke and do not forget about the hallways. The entire game is practically on rails.

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>>322729679
it does suck to be me, thanks for reminding me anon.

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>>322729679

>>322729183
Fucking hell, I dont know which anon this is but, that was the point. You cant finish the game without some strategy.

>>322727813
am i supposed to care?

>>322729518
>related pic
ow

Newsflash.

All these 'gaming journalism' sources wouldn't dare badmouth big blockbuster games anything more than very lightly because first and foremost they're out to appease their fans.

>>322728528
i cried at the ending with sazh

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>>322730214
>appease their fans
>their fans
>fans

>people talking about "discs"
>find out 360 version has 3 discs
ayy lmao

>>322730041
sorry, i read your response wrongly lol mah bad

>>322729891
The ending definitely wasn't about "power of friendship". It was about exerting your free will and not being oppressed, but sure, let's call it a kiddie game because friendship just happened to be a factor in the game.
Also, how is not knowing what they're doing a bad thing. They figured it out which is all that really matters.

>the combat system was a joke

Quite the opposite. It was layered with strategy and fun. Shame you didn't like it though.

>hallways

literally everyone whines about this like it really fucking matters. they were on the run from the government so they wouldn't fucking get killed. sorry you didn't have more time to site-see.

Too many open world shit nowadays, all of them get boring

>>322730550
>how is not knowing what they're doing a bad thing
Because they spend most of the game doing fuck-all aside from awkwardly getting character development and fighting eidolons.

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>>322726031


That's a good question. To best describe Lightning I've brought these roses with me today. The rose has many meanings such as love, passion, and beauty but it is also linked with new theories, epiphanies, and ideas. By experiencing the story of Final Fantasy as it unfolds around Lightning you can create your own story along with her.

>>322731227
>he actually said this onstage in front of people
The absolute madman.

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>>322731227
>by experiencing the story of Final Fantasy as it unfolds around Lightning you can create your own story along with her.

well someone has to since the writers didn't

>>322731453
DOHOHOHOHOHOHO

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>>322730550
>The ending definitely wasn't about "power of friendship". It was about exerting your free will and not being oppressed

Right, so all those people who left behind friends, family, and loved ones didn't want it bad enough.

>They figured it out which is all that really matters

Not really. Even when the final boss says that destroying it will friend the end to the world, what do they do? Destroy it and give it exactly what they want. Of course, Squenix, being the hacks they are, do another asspull to save the world because fuck it.

>It was layered with strategy and fun

Maybe so someone who only ever plays JRPGs.

>who cares about an RPG being one long, linear hallway

Playing the previous games in the series.

>>322731090
Obviously you and I have very different definitions of an enjoyable game. To each his/her own I guess.I found the story quite interesting, but it's whatever. Regardless of all the hate, the game is well-loved.

>>322728528
>Also Sazh is the most human character so far
and also the only one who knows that guns > swords

>>322731570
The other people weren't saved by Etro
It's not an asspull, it was heavily foreshadowed before
Do you remember "if we have the power to destroy cocoon, we also have the power to save it"?
It was strategic and fun
Oh, like FFX? Or like the ps1 games that actually had prerendered backgrounds?

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FFXIII is a game that sacrificed all the traditional final fantasy elements in order to tell a good story.

And then failed to tell a good story.

It also had a twenty hour tutorial.

Because it's a mainline Final Fantasy game.

>>322731765
>I found the story quite interesting
The entire story in 2 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scnJEf3aabo

>>322731570
>All the people who left behind friends, family, etc didn't want it bad enough

Are we even talking about the same thing?

>They were willing to build their own world rather than be controlled by the Fal'Cie. Seems like a pretty human decision to me. As far as Bhunivelze is concerned, he's pretty much following a similar pattern as the Fal'Cie, but his will is free, so he's just gonna do whatever he wants. I will admit that the ending was kind of 'iffy' for me, but I'm not about to complain about it.

>someone who only plays JRPGs

I play more than just JRPGs, so you can curve that argument to someone more applicable.

>who cares about an RPG being one long hallway

I never said that. I only said that it wasn't an issue considering the predicament of the cast. Had they been in a different situation where they had the time and freedom to run around, the linearity wouldn't have been so easily forgiven.
I've played the older games, not all, but enough. I've also just played other freeroam RPGs in general. I'm very familiar with the large scope of those games with the overworld, and even FFXII which had one insanely massive world to explore, but that doesn't make FFXIII's linearity an issue for me. It really wasn't that big of a deal.

>>322732241
Upboated and reposted, simply epik.

>>322731982
X's linearity makes sense plotwise and was clearly intentional, and pre-rendered backgrounds have nothing to do with that. Even still X has things to do outside of walking from one end of a hallway to another while fighting enemies. Speaking of things to do, I think one of XIII's biggest problems isn't the linearity, but moreso that the areas don't feel "real". They suffer from the same problems Dark Souls 2 does, in that the areas are disjointed "levels" rather than places people would build/inhabit.

>>322723440
Because it's a good game, but the people who don't like it are so vocal that it seems like everyone hates it.

>>322723440
check the name of the game m64/8

>>322723440
Why do you faggots keep making threads about this and LR? Let the 13 series die. It was the low point of FF and everyone with a brain knows it. Who cares how wrong reviewers were? The game was burnt ass hair on release and it still is. Leave it in the past where it belongs and let's talk about good games.

>>322732658
>X's linearity makes sense plotwise

XIII's linearity also makes sense plotwise, so they're in the same boat no matter how you slice it. I honestly don't see how people defend X's linearity while whining about XIII's and this coming from someone who loves both games.

>areas don't feel real...disjointed levels rather than places people would build/inhabit

Can't agree with this. The majority of the game takes place in areas where only monsters live. All the human populated locations feel perfectly real. You do take some ass-backwards pathways to get around in Hope's hometown, but it all makes relative sense and it would be the first game that took some liberties with stuff like that. I wouldn't really call this an issue, but obviously we have differing viewpoints.

>>322733145
You only hate it because everyone else does tho :^)

>>322723440
It was actually good you faggoty meme parrot.

>>322732658
XIII's linearity makes sense plot wise even more
And no they can't just fuck around, if they do Nautilus happens and they get captured
And the places feel very alive, look at Nautilus again for example

I like ff 13.
i like the setting.
i like the combat.

I just don't like the level design, the moment you drop into gran pulse the game becomes legit good.

>>322733145
Why can't this meme die instead?
It always happens
>XI comes out
>people cry and complain
>X-2 comes out
>people cry and complain
>XII comes out
>people cry and complain
>XIII comes out
>people cry and complain
enough with this crap

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>>322733631
Is cause you're in /v/

>>322733631
X was last good FF. Everyone knows that.

>>322733145
Yeah, and what should we discuss?

The action adventure XV with not-Kirito as the only playable character and shitty semi-modern setting?
The disgusting WoW clone?
Type-*, oh wait, we don't know shit about it.
Tifa's breast size in the "episodic" remake of a fucking 18 years old game?
Mobile games?

Even older FF games?
Should we shit on X again? X-2? See >>322733631

bet none of your waifus ever modelled for Louis Vuitton

>>322723440
It's far from a bad game. But not as good as those numbers propose.

>>322733848
>not-Kirito
He's not-Sasuke, get your insults right.

>>322723440
Brand loyalty.

>>322726967
But it was complete at least. TPP still makes me depressed.

>>322727679
This. I was expecting an all-around terrible product considering all the hate I'd read about it. What I got was an addicting and entertaining game, that just kept getting better.

>>322728146
The combat was fucking awesome, son!
>inb4 Auto-Battle
stop using it, and utilize Repeat function.

>>322731453
ZING