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>mfw this mod

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>mfw this mod
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>>292033696
>Patreon in a nutshell.jpg
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>seems shitty, not buying it
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Gonna download it and endorse it
>I don't even have Skyrim on pc

>go look at posts
>"We should make this file of the month"
>"please no, there's a huge expansion size mod that took so much hard work and time running to be file of the month that really deserves it"

We should not only make it file of the month, we should make it the most downloaded mod in the whole nexus.

It barely takes any effort at all.

This is the perfect way to make a statement.

We can do it /v/, together.
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>>292033696
where i can download mods for free ??? just the pirate version plz ! no real free mod !
this is not to use it but just to put my balls on the nose of gabe ..
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>>292033696
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WAKE
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ME
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I almost wish I was a modder so I could make something like this and charge $1000 for it just to see what would happen.

of course I'd offer it for free elsewhere still. If anybody buys it they deserve to get scammed.
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Link to the mod for anyone interested in downloading/endorsing/leaving some comments:
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/65034/?
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>>292035920
>You'll never put your balls on the nose of gabe
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>Her name is Beth
>Shes sitting on a red valve
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>her name is Beth
>she's sitting on a giant valve

a bit on the nose
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>>292036061
Le Happy Kobe Face
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>>292037320
10/10
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UP
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is this supposed to be satire of the real life situation? If so, its off by a few points. Have Beth spend lots of time and effort on making content for people who expect it for free for some reason, then have her ask for money.
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>>292037320
>>292037346
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>>292037562
>Have Beth spend lots of time and effort on making content
This doesn't happen, though.
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>>292037346
Oh, I get it. Beth-esda and the valve is Valve. That makes this cuter.
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>>292037562
You're going to have to speak up anon. I can't hear you with Gabes cock shoves so far down your throat.
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>>292037657
are you implying that all mods require no effort or time to make? that's really silly anon.
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>>292033696
Perfect.
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>>292037801
Are you implying all mods have effort put into them? Especially the ones that went up for sale?
$1.75 for a single sword? Are you joking?
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>>292037320
Fucking perfect.
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>>292037562
you're a dumb nigger

beth doesn't do any work, people do work for her for free under the promise of the possibility of sharing a small share of the profit
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>>292037801
are you implying that all mods require effort or time to make? that's really really silly anon.
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>>292037562
>beth spending lots of time and effort making content
the entire point is that someone's making it, getting very little of the purchase price for it, while beth and the valve are profiting greatly. How about just adding an option to donate to the mod's creator? I'm fine with that. I'm not gonna give valve money for content they had no hand in creating though. It's why I don't buy games on steam anymore, they take way too large of a cut from indies.
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>>292037562
>Go away modder, we want you to be a slave to our entertainment.

This is what you sound like 4chan. I am not a paid promoter and my views are my own, and I think you fellow channers are being foolish.
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>>292037742
i said

THIS IS INACCURATE, THEY ARE ACTING AS IF MODDERS DON'T DO ANYTHING AND EXPECT MONEY

did you hear me that time or is your brain overflowing with so much entitlement its blocking your ability to comprehend?
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>>292037965
You're dumb as fuck, "Beth" is Bethesda you mong

The point is that Bethesda and Valve are reaping all of the profits while modders are working for free and get jack shit
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>>292037943
Anon, you missed the point entirely.
It's making fun of Bethesda, Valve, AND the modders.
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>>292037965
>entitlement
stopped reading there.
You're gonna have to be more subtle if you want to bait the big dogs.
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>>292037965
>modder puts in all the effort
>gets 25% of profits
They're getting jewed just as hard as the rest of us.
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>>292033696
>the valve shes sitting on produces steam

All thats left is to make her attack you with that steam spell (pic related) that the giant Dwemer centurions use.

But only if you try to take your money back via pickpocketing.
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>>292037562
How about every time you visit her she gives you a health potion (limit one per customer per day), but after 10 she starts asking 500 gold for each potion.
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>>292038061
>"Beth" is Bethesda

Why the fuck wouldn't he actually say that then? Did he forget how to spell "Bethesda"?
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>>292038159
how many u have paid for this mod ?
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>>292037320
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>>292037927
you're right, Beth just succeeded in building the most popular platform to distribute this type of work on, but yeah no she did nothing and deserves nothing, you're totally right.

>>292037940
if I recall correctly, you were the one who said "that literally doesn't happen though". You implied the all or nothing situation, not me.
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>>292033696
Love it
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>>292038158
>making 25% more than they used to
>can now churn out bullshit for free cash instead of working on a big project with love and care because all they would get was notoriety and maybe donations
No, they're jewing.
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>>292038205
Maybe because everyone but you got the joke?
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>>292033696

Based modder.
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>>292038061
they make a percent of the profit having their work get distributed on the most popular platform for this sort of thing. You're delusional if you think they'd even make half of what they would make if they stuck to donations or if nexusmods (a shit site that requires sign up to download mods) paid them.
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>>292037320
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>>292033696
Gabe disapproves... Cry more!

Nice job!
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>>292038205
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>>292038313


Bethesda already gets paid for the game. If they want money for the mod then they should actually make the fucking mod.
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>>292038149
>bait picture

didnt even bother reading
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>>292038481
Considering their mod needs to make $400 dollars in a month before they see anything, they probably would make more off donations on Nexus
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>>292038274

its free
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>>292037965
>entitlement
there's this word again
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>>292038605
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>>292038562
nobody else is buying skyrim anymore to warrant anything that can be considered a significant profit for bethesda you mongoloid.
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>>292038605
>all this mad
We know you read his post, because you tailored your response to it.
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>>292038781

Doesn't even fucking matter.
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>>292038714
>thinking you deserve someone's work for free
hmmm I could swear there is a word for that
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-I am going to download this mod.
-Remove her name and give her a new one ''Miss Entitle''
-Give her dirty clothes
-Put it on Steam and charge a few bucks for it
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Modders are cost 25% ...
25 !
.. 25 !!!
xD Muhahahaahaha!
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>>292038605
Here, this one should get respones
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>>292038820
gotcha
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>>292038938

Valve.
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>>292039209
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This is unironically the worst fucking thread on /v/.

Kill yourselves faggots.
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I'm going to laugh if people stop buying games on Steam. Gabby Reaction is....?
In Love with SOPA?
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>>292039209
but its not for free in regards to valve


they are providing the service of distribution.
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>>292039128
>HAHAHA I WAS ONLY FOOLING YOU
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>>292038781

Skyrim is just the beginning, anon.
You may be right, but this will eventually happen to any game with a decent modding community on steam.

More than likely, the next bethesda game will launch with this system in place. Free mods will still exist, but this will split the modding community.

Some people will release only on the steam paid-workshop, some will only release on free sites, some will hop back and forth.
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>>292037562
If you wanted to make money, you should have made your own game. Stop monetizing and shitting up vidya, you greedy corporate shill.
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THIS MOD COULD BE YOURS FOR THE ONE TIME SMALL FEE OF............

$10! WOW
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Why haven't you murdered a Valve employee yet?
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I don't see whats wrong with charging for mods no matter how small. In almost every game I play already I pay for individual weapons to use or dlc to unlock more things? I honestly don't see whats wrong with this.
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>>292039359
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>>292039670
>retards think this is how other retards think
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>>292039670
Maybe you have money to sell drugs and have more free time to buy that shit?
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>>292039670
no anon, I expect other people's work for free

FOR FREEEEE

GIVE ME YOUR WORK FOR FREEEE THATS THE WAY ITS ALWAYS BEEN, DONT EXPECT MY MONEY FOR YOUR WORK, THATS INSANE GIVE ME FUNS FOR FREEEEEEEE
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>>292039518

no one is going to hop back and fourth, the reaction on nexus right now if you sell your mods "get the fuck out"
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>People actually charging
>Not doing it for free

Do you even mod?
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>>292033696
Now all he needs to do is charge for it and everything will be complete.
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How funny still no one to share on piratebay the game call Turbo Dismount with undreds of mods and maps for free... Now if Steam policy is going to change, grab all those mods and share for free before we can buy that shit. Long Live Piracy!
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>>292039904
Maybe some angrier users. I have the feeling most people wont care if they hop back and forth its a quality mod that they want.
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WAKE ME UP
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>>292039862
>modding is work

I suppose fanfiction.net should start allowing people to charge to read sonic fanfics too.
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>>292039862
>>292039781
>>292039774
>>292039670
I thought the issue was Valve and Beth making mad dosh off of other people's efforts.
NOT that the people who make mods, are making money.
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>>292040282
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>292039670
The problem is that Bethesda and Valve are making money off other people's work. Not only that, but if there're any mods being sold that violate copyright of another company, Valve will be the ones who end up getting sued.
Galaxy is looking better by the day.
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I wonder how all the waifu autists over in /tesg/ are reacting to this.

They must be sperging like crazy.
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>>292040330
It is.

Retards will make you think otherwise.
Then there's that other faggot trying to rile people up to make shit mods for high prices, as if that's going to change anything.
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>>292040338
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>sitting on a valve
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There is literally nothing wrong with charging for mods.
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Imagine if interns all over started demanding to be paid an actual salary.
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>>292040389
That seems to be the most rational explanation I've seen. The 75% cut not going to the mod creator is pretty shitty.
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>midas magic shows ads when you use spells in the free version

come on goys he doesn't do it for free
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>>292040283
Thats a pretty good point. Where do we draw the line? I guess its hard too when the goal posts keep moving.
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Charging for mods is good fags. They work for it.
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>>292037320
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>>292039670

Because let us say that DLC adds professional content like Anno 2070 Deep Sea or something. Paying for mods will lead to giant influx of shit being put into games where it will cake up. Sure no one would buy it unless it is ironically, But it will still cake up.

I only pay for DLC if it is the only way and if it lives up to extending the game. If mods do the same, Good. But for armour and such? It's bullshit.

Next thing going to happen is mods on you can see serverside on a multiplayer game.
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>>292040618
holy fucking shit
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>>292040330
>Mod made using the game assets (Bug fixes aside[They should be free], this is okay).
>You use Steam to distribute your mod, so they get a cut from every sale.

Modding has always been a hobby. The modder sells it, if he wishes to so. If he doesn't want to sell it, by all means distribute it somewhere else. How is this a fucking big deal, is beyond me.
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>installing mods right now
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>>292040282
Open your eyes edd.
Thanks Eddy.
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>>292036985
>$1000
Doing it wrong. You charge $2, because lots of people would download it to be ironic and "in" on the joke and "its only the cost of a hamburger, who cares right?"

This is how potato salad kickstarter made $50k
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>>292033696

>Using adblock

Congratulations, you're no better than a pirate.
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>>292040618
I don't give a shit I've been stealing mods and uploading them for profit all fucking day.

I hope valve keeps this shit in place, I have a stockpile of new vegas and 3 mods I wanna sell. Best part is the authors can't do jack to stop me they accepted the eula.
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>>292040885
How much have you made? proof?
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>>292034234
>mfw webcomic artists are now the highest paid artists in the world
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>>292039487
you mean that thing nexusmods has been doing for years? wow how kind of valve to provide that service out of the kindness of their own hearts and definitely not monetary gain!
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>>292034234

To be fair Patreon is used so that the content creator can hopefully use funds from fans to live off of his content, so that (ideally, i'm sure lazy fucks take advantage of it) instead of sacrificing time at other jobs they can work on their content full-time for a better, more frequent product.

Again, ideally it'd be funding good artists so that they can produce even better art, but what blows is that a lot of it boils down to leading lowest common denominator masses into giving asshats five digits a month to stagnate lazily
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>>292040885
Fucking genius. How much have you made?
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>>292040885
Careful, man. This is all new and I expect them to crack down on this sort of thing ASAP.
Do what you want, but just make sure to get out while youre ahead.
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>>292040885
With that note and everything going down with that fishing mod do you think I could get away with putting FNIS and SKSE up and charging for it? Then modders would have to pay me to make mods. Sounds ingenious to me
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>>292033696
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>896 DOWNLOADS
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>>292040949
>>292041004
Nothing yet, just uploading and getting everything set up. If I link anything here you spergs will spam my page and I'll be caught. My idea is that the usual tards that use workshop will be none the wiser. Jesus christ could you imagine if minecraft was up on steam with a workshop. I would be rolling in dosh.
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>>292041190
It's a reference to lady mcbeth you fucking dumbass
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>>292041190
Esda.
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>>292041190
Beth esda?
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>>292041190
Beth
Bethesda
You know, the fucking makers of Skyrim?
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top fucking kek
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>>292041026
I've looked extensively into. By all rights those mods are property of bethesda, not the modder. They can neither copyright it or provide undeniably proof they made it.
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>>292041271
So your profit so far is 0?
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>>292040618

I dont have a problem with him wanting to get paid for his work, but this is ridiculous. Either put the mod on steam or the nexus. Dont do both with ads on the free version.

I doubt he's gathered much support for this.
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>>292033696

Mfw just browsing the most recent mods

tl;dr my sides
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>>292037320
>that valve is releasing STEAM
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>>292039518
>one person buys the mod
>release the files to nexus anyway
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>>292041435
Never said I'd made any money yet, just that I was uploading them to sell. Also downloading mods for other bethesda games and holding onto them when they inevitable bring this to fallout. Derp
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>>292037962
Or you can simply not fucking mod. For decades modders have not expected payment. Fuck off.
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>>292041432
I mean, thats great for you, but

I feel kinda bad for the modders that went all in on this, if theres literally nothing they can do to protect their work.

WOW GG GABE
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>yfw Valve and devs add workshop support for older games
>older games such as Morrowind and New Vegas get workshops
>mods get taken down for them and added to the workshop
>pretty soon there will be no free mods on the internet
This is the end mates.
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>>292040678
Kotoura is so perfect.
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http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/65043/
>ForkingGabe
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>>292041190
>deleting your post

No you don't, fucker.
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>>292041579

In my experience, the mods on Nexus have been pretty active. People will probably report the hell out of workshop mods.
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>>292041630
Exactly, I don't get why people are bitching.

DUR ONLY 25% DUR, big fucking deal. It's not like they were expecting a huge payment for a mod anyway. I still don't fucking get it.
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>people are actually mad

Why? You're not being forced to buy these mods and there will no doubt be free alternatives either out of coincidence or spite.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDyXIXyAZq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDyXIXyAZq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDyXIXyAZq0
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Man, this is just fucking awful and made me start to feel disgusted by using Steam.

I know it's just a dream, but I if GoG gave me a free copy of my Steam games, I'd switch to their service in a fucking instant.
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>>292041851
If not nexus, than have a good database on the /vg/ for workshop mods that have some worth and a download link. Honestly most mods are outdated/useless on the workshop at as it is.
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>>292041579
>The Watcher Staff was just recently released on the Nexus
>It has comments disabled
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>>292037320
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>your account has been suspended for using non-workshop curated mods
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>>292040996

Patreon also gets 5%. Not 75%
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>>292041603
better preserve the someguy series before it's locked up behind a $100 paywall
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>>292041603
Another scam I have made money off of however is whenever a new game comes out I'll go on pirate forums, facebook and torrent sites then post adfly links in the comments claiming its a crack download. I used to just like to shock sites or gore but recently I've been uploading fake files locked behind surveys that I get monies for if they complete.

Make probably 800 a month from that. Not much but added ontop of my paycheck its a tidy little sum for little to no work.
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>>292039515
why does he put his glass down just to pick it up again?
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>>292037562
Beth is Bethesda, Valve and Bethesda are taking the vast majority of the money modmakers are "earning".

"earning" because all "profits" go to Steam wallets.
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>>292039670

There's nothing wrong with it. It's a bit taboo since mods have always been free. The large issues revolve around the Valve and Beth receiving a larger amount of money, copyright and permission issues, and scum bags stealing actual author's mods and selling them on the workshop for stolen profit. There's also the fact this has divided the modding community a bit, which heavily relies on group cooperation and collaboration.
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>>292037320
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>>292041735
sup Mugi
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>>292042007
Nice. Maybe we'll see a few sites pop up dedicated to nothing but workshop mods.
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>>292041934
My skyim took literally months to get it running stable. It had well over 500+ mods, now many of which require each other to work. Now I can't even run the game without being told to pay for my shit. No I'm not being forced to pay for them, unless I actually want to play the game I spent hundreds of hours perfecting. But it's ok, no one is FORCING me to buy them right?
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>>292041928
>1/20 chance
Fucking kill his self
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>>292039862
Just because you spend time on something doesn't mean you're entitled to money "by default". Patreon and consorts have set this weird idea into people's heads that you can really do whatever you want, you "deserve" money for it as long as you spend time on something. Because I guess if you're popular, there will always be people who are willing to pay your bills so you can keep doing funny youtube videos or whatever the fuck.

But that's not how it works. Fuck that. When you ask money for software, which is infinitely recreatable, and the distribution and "manufacturing" of which don't cost you a single cent, I'm not paying for the fact that you at some point put work into it. This isn't me paying out your "investment". I'm shelling out for a digital *service* here. And I expect quality control. I expect customer support. I expect a
*guarantee* that I will actually GET the service for fucks sake, none of which you're obligated or even only ABLE to provide.

So don't give me this entitlement shit when people say the "payed mod" model is bullshit. I'm not your fucking employer, I'm not paying you for your "work". I don't give a fuck about what you do in your spare time. I pay money for what I actually *get*, and with mods on the steam workshop, what I get is FUCK ALL.
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>>292037320
9/10
impressive
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reminder: mod creators get NOTHING unless they make more than 100 USD per payout
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>he's a modder
>on the internet
>on a DRM Platform
>he does it for 25 %
>he takes his "job" very seriously
>he does it because it is the only amount of power & control he will ever have in his pathetic life
>he deletes mods on nexus because he needs to "pay his bills"
>he will never have a real job
>he will never work for a dev
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never know how to code anything that isn't a "sword"
>he will never have a girlfriend
>he will never get his 100 dollars
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>>292041735
I'm fairly confident this won't happen, because Bethesda has dropped support for those games and therefore can't be put on the workshop. However if these paid mods take off I can see Bethesda continuing support and putting their old games on the Workshop
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>>292042285

Nope. No one is forcing you to pay for it. Quit your bitching. You don't need 400 different kinds of HD horse pussy textures mods.
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>>292042285
How are you being forced to pay for said mods?
I've seen people mention this numerous times, in different ways, I have yet to see prove of people being forced to buy the mods that they already have installed.
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>>292040618
Okay just so I get this straight - are you telling me this guy has a free version of his mod, which gives you fucking INGAME POPUPS when you cast spells with it, advertising the payed version of the mod?

Woah. I don't even know what to say. Thanks gabe, for singlehandedly destroying the mod scene in only 2 days time. Amazing work. Absolutely, uttery amazing.
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>>292042576
you won't be able to get newer versions of the mods you have. plus a new update could "accidentally" break out of date mods
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>>292037962
Yeah, seriously, fuck off. Modders who expect money can shove a fucking stake in their ass. That's like me making a fanfiction which requires you to own the original content the fanfic was based off of, other fanfics, and then have the gall to charge 2.99 for it. You're an idiot, the community does not want to pay for your shit, if you have a problem with that you can stop modding at any time, you fucking idiot. Go make something original and worth paying for.
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>>292040618
Holy shit, what's worse? This, or the early access paid mod? Jesus fucking christ.
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>>292042826
Then don't buy the mods, and make it look like it's not profitable to sell it.
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>everyone in the discussion board is saying "payed"
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Other than not buying anymore games from Steam there's not a lot people can do to protest..

They have all your games, try turning your back on that...

Not me though I only have around 4 games tied to Steam in 10 years
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>>292042498
>fitter
>happier
>more productive
>comfortable
>not drinking too much
>regular exercise at the gym
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>>292040618
When shit like this starts appearing, you know that Valve royally fucked things up.
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>>292042817

So either get the free equivalent, make your own fucking mod, or pay the dollar for your fucking big dragon dick addon.
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So are the days of Goldeneye: Source, Fortress Forever, Zombie Master and the likes gone forever?
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>PAYING FOR MODS

I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS
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JUST FUCK MY MODS UP!
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>>292043090
Or you could just download the mod, bypassing all the bullshit you just described, and have fun with the game. Just like how it's always been before Valve came up the paid mod idea.
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>>292043090

does Valve pay you extra to be agressive when you defend them?
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>>292043237

Zombie master was too broken to be given that much praise.
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>>292041579
we can also torrent the mods
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>>292043401

Nope. If I wanted something in a game I'm not a knuckle dragging moron and would know how to make it and put it in the game myself.

>>292043343
I lived through the age of Sim city 4 modding. This is small potatoes compared to obsessive autistics.
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All I see in these threads, are people over reacting.

Mods used to be free, and the creators of said mod now have the option to make some profit from the mod by selling it. How is this a big deal? If the modder wants to make some profit from his work, so be it. You either buy it, or you don't, doesn't fucking matter.

The only thing I'd be against, is people selling bug fixes, that's just bullshit and hopefully it doesn't happen.
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>>292043237
Source mods are already on life support, the worst that happened to them was they went "Indie", stripping out all the valve content with their own and selling them, all of these are dead games for the most part.
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>>292042980
Don't cry like a bitch when the community you're trying to jew money from calls you out on your bullshit. Obviously I'm not buying mods. You're shitting on the floor and then telling anyone who doesn't want shit on the floor "well just don't stand on it!"
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>>292037519
Man, Cao Cao always cheers me up.
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>>292043545
>If I wanted something in a game I'm not a knuckle dragging moron and would know how to make it and put it in the game myself.

then what are you waiting for? go ahead and create some fantastic mods and earn your pittance
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>>292043408
It was a lot of fun though. Sure banshee spamming ZMs were always bad but a good ZM brought the game together for everyone.

That's besides the point. What I meant was, now that selling mods is a thing (valve will handle the legals, distribution and end user comfort), mods like I listed before have no reason to be free, other than being too shit to sell I guess.
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>>292043609
I'm not a modder, nor do I particularly care if a modder wants to sell their work. I'll buy it if it's worthy of buying, if it's not, then I won't buy it.

Big fucking deal.
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>>292033696
>OP is a genius.
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>>292043740

I release my mods for free bby ;)

I also support this concept. Go sell a CSGO crate and download your horse pussy, kid.
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>>292043597
>The only thing I'd be against, is people selling bug fixes, that's just bullshit and hopefully it doesn't happen.

this is what worries me the most, there is literally no incentives for companies to release official bugfixes when they can just let some eager modder do it while getting money from it. They probably disguise it as 'helping out the little man!'
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>>292035759
THIS

I dont even own Oblivion: Part II, but i'm gonna do this shit.
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Money is the root of all evil. Modding was an anarchist utopia. At least all the poop and rape mods will be free (for now)

Biblical verse to rape. How's that for rapid degeneration? Kind of like what's about to happen to all modding communities. It's all over.
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>>292044003
>I release my mods for free
care to share? I'm actually looking for some free mods to play with to distract me from all this paid mod bullshit
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I am actively upset no one has put a $2.50 mod on the workshop called "Horse Armor".

Someone get to it.
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>>292043802
It is actually a big deal. Mods were created for the community and their creators never expected to be compensated, and did they care? Hell no they didn't, they just kept making mods. Now that this paid mod crap popped up, people are slowly going to think that this will become the standard. Remember horse armor?
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>>292043597
>>292044113
The person behind SkyUI, one of the most important Skyrim mods, is now charging for it.
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>>292044174
Fancypants put up a Horse Armor version of his horse
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>$49.99 for a mod that REMOVES CONTENT at the promise of boosting performance
:^)
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>>292043597
>The only thing I'd be against, is people selling bug fixes, that's just bullshit and hopefully it doesn't happen.

What? Aren't modders entitled to their work?
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>>292043545
>I am a font of infinite time, creativity, and patience

i doubt it
>>292043802
Have fun stepping in shit, since I guarantee there'll be few, if any, mods worth paying any amount of money for. I also guarantee that there'll be tons of cashgrab mods. Get ready for an influx of individual swords, retextures, and followers, each costing 50c. I've got 161 mods in skyrim alone, if each one cost 50c that would cost 80.5 dollars. Skyrim costed 60 bucks on release, I got it on pc for 7.50.
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>>292039670
>In almost every game I play already I pay for individual weapons to use or dlc to unlock more things? I honestly don't see whats wrong with this.

That was such a terrible bait you made me laugh. Here, have a upboat. :^)
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>>292043545
You should never buy a game but like create them all on your own instead :^)
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>>292040618

>Not simply going into the editor and removing the pop-up manually

People don't do this?
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>>292044172

I don't make mods for fucking "Oblivion II: now with less spells" bitch. I make mods for the good shit like Warband.
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>>292044313
it's part of the "clutter the workshop with worthless mods" movement

see >>292040295
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>>292044314
It isn't the modder who I'd be pissed for selling it, it'd be the devs getting money from a bug fix that'd piss me off.
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>>292040885

As a modder, you're the reason I hate this system, but for some reason I can't muster it inside of me to be angry at you.
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>>292044549
What mods?

>mfw L'3years on release and now
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>>292044549
I've got warband, and I'd love to try out some new mods
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Anon: Glad you could make it, Gaben.

Gaben: Watch your tone with me, Anon. You may be the cash cow, but I'm still your beloved meme.

Anon: As if I could forget. Listen, Gaben, there's something about the mods you should know. Oh no. It's too late. These people have all been infected. They may look fine now, but it's a matter of time before they turn into the unpaid.

Gaben: What?

Anon: This entire workshop must be purged.

Gaben: How can you even consider that? Shekels must be made, there's not other way.

Anon: Damn it, Gaben. As your future costumer, I order you to purge this workshop.

Gaben: You are not my customer yet, boy. Nor would I obey that command if you were!

Anon: Then I must consider this an act of treason.

Gaben: Treason? Have you lost your mind, Anon?

Anon: Have I? Lord Gaben, by my rights over my wallet, I hereby relieve you from your dominion over me and refuse to buy more hats from you.

Nexus: Anon, you can't just...

Anon: It's done! Those of you who have the will to save the modding community, follow me. The rest of you, valvedrones... get out of my sight.

Gaben: You've just crossed a terrible threshold, Anon.

Anon: Nexus?
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>>292044303
This...

This is not what I meant.

Jesus why.
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>>292044582
So what you're saying is that developers who already sold the game should invest more of their times to fix bugs and glitches in the game... for free?

Really, all it comes out is that you're entitled as fuck, but you're better than everyone because you're entitled JUST for the right reasons, everyone else is evil entitled.

TLDR: Stop expecting people to put their free time to do something for free for you.
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>At least their getting something! they got nothing before!
>Be Cuck
>Wife fucks BBC and forces me to watch
>Suddenly she now gives me a handjob after she's done with Tyrone
>At least i'm getting something! I got nothing before!
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WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>292044783
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>>292044247
Link please
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>>292044818
When you use the word "entitled" three times, I'm pretty sure you're just trolling
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>>292044554
Clever.
Let me get in on this shit. brb I'm gonna go create a Nord NPC that sits by the khajit merchants who sells crumpled pieces of paper with his name on it for 500 gold each.
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>>292037562
Thats not the spirit of modding though no one makes mods for money its a passion, a hobby

This is capitalism GONE MAD. FUCK. GABE.
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>>292044818
I expect the game to not need bugfixes. It was made by professionals. When I do my job I make sure that I don't splice in any pictures of cocks into the footage, I expect devs to make sure I don't fall through the fucking floor or never unrender objects until the game crashes.
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>>292044818
>So what you're saying is that developers who already sold the game should invest more of their times to fix bugs and glitches in the game... for free?

Is there anything wrong with that sentiment? Yeah I'd love if that game I shelled out money for actually fucking worked. And if I didn't have to pay extra for that. That'd be fucking nice.
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>>292045004
>reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/33qtcy/the_skyui_dev_has_announced_he_plans_to_charge/

http://imgur.com/evktSb8

What google search got me
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>>292044818
No, a bug fix is different from adding content to a game you bumbling fuck nugget. A bug fix, should be free, since I'm already expecting the game to work, not make it unplayable.
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>>292044783

Best dlc.
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>>292041934

Shouldn't you be working on Platform Masters or something
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>>292040775
Should have ended in Bonzai buddy
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>>292042113
oy vey
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>>292040775
Thats what my windows xp computer ended up looking like. rip.
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>>292040618

Ok now I'm speechless
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>>292040775

God that made me nervous. It was like being 13 all over again.
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>>292044818
>So what you're saying is that developers should invest more of their times to fix bugs and glitches in the game... for free?
>entitled as fuck
From this post I can literally hear gaben's semen dripping down your face onto the keyboard. Did you try to swallow? Did you beg him to rape your mouth again? If your eyes weren't so full of his cum you might have been able to see how retarded you sound. Hope you enjoy paying $100 just to make your game barely playable.
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>yfw the Skyrim Script Extender guy puts his mod up for sale at like 100$ just to fuck with everyone
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THE MONEY YOU MAKE CANT BE USED OUTSIDE STEAM

THEY ARE SELLING OUT THE MOD COMMUNITY FOR A FEW DISCOUNT GAMES
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>>292041928
>not just putting the ads in loading screens
what is wrong with him
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>>292040729
>Valve takes 75% for putting your mod on a page
>This is somehow okay

Lol
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>>292042113
800 usd ?
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>>292045940
>Modders pirate the mod, and call the modder "Entitled"
>He responds that he needs to "pay his bills"
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>>292046027
Honestly, it wouldn't be that bad, considering I have mods installed that already do that. They don't advertise payed shit, but they're like "you should also look at my other mod ;)"
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>>292046065
First, Valve takes 50%. Secondly, you're using their distribution service, for a mod you're selling.

How exactly is this wrong?
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>>292045980

That's not how any other community items work. They go straight to your bank account.
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>>292044818

If they have integrity for actually finishing a project...Yes. Yes I DO THINK THEY SHOULD FIX THE FLAWS OF THE GAME IN ORDER TO COMPLETE IT TO THEIR ORIGINAL VISION AND THE BUG-FREE STANDARD EXPECTED OF EVERY OTHER GAME, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY SOLD IT OFF ALREADY.
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>>292046214
Also, don't get me wrong, he'd still be a huge fag
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>>292045980
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>>292046065
>pretending to be retarded.
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So can someone poorly retex one of the paid weapons and put it up for sale? Fair game.
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>>292045306
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>>292037562
Have everything that Beth does be flawed in one or other way and other people need to fix her shit up and wait this is getting too meta.
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Okay, for all you retards (probably from reddit) who don't understand the major complaints with the system:

THE BAD SHIT:

>Valve takes a gross percentage. 75% goes to other people, you make only 25% when you do all the work
>Valve refuses to moderate or quality control products THEY CHARGE MONEY FOR.
>Valve only offers a 24 hour return, this has many problems, including:
*Updates that break mods down the line. These mods may need to be fixed, but the modder has no reason to do so. They also may be unable to fix it if tools and coding change.
*Mods that have conflicts down the line. Two mods may work, but one mod updates and breaks the other. You're shit out of luck because Valve refuses to help you.
*Mods that cause technical problems with the games down the line, such as causing memory leaks, save bloat, or corruption of save files. Valve does not care.
>There is rampant theft going on, people downloading mods from other sites and putting them up as their own and charging money. Valve refuses to do anything about this currently.
>There are people making mods, charging for them, and only promising to finish them. Valve does not care about this either.
>Valve is allowing people to sell mods that require other mods. You may pay $5 for a mod, and it will not work unless you purchase another mod. If the mod author doesn't list this, and you don't get your 24 hour refund, you're out of luck.
>Valve is allowing people to sell mods that require expansions/other DLC without putting some sort of warning. You may purchase DLC and a few days later get to it (if say, its a quest) only to realize that it doesn't work because you need official DLC.

Most people are not opposed to the idea of modders making money. They are opposed to valve's system because of the above. This is NOT for the sake of the modders. This is simply a money fleecing scheme to get dollars out of every facet of PC gaming.

If they wanted to support modders, they'd use a donation button.
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>>292037562
the NPC is supposed to be satire of valve and bethesda, NOT the modders you fucking dead weigh dolt
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>>292040618
ITS LIKE THOSE FUCKING FREE ANDROID GAMES
JESUS H CHRIST GABE YOU FAT FUCK WHY
ALL WE NEED NOW IS AN EXPANSION TO PARADISE LOST FROM RUNNING WITH SCISSORS TO PARODY THIS SOMEHOW
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>>292037320
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I'm kinda glad this happened, the hold outs are starting to wake up and realize that Valve isn't the same company it was in the late 90s/early 2000s.
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>>292047189
Valve's hand off approach is what makes me the most mad.

ITS YOUR FUCKING PLATFORM, STOP LETTING SHOVELWARE, COPY RIGHT INFRINGING GAMES, AND LAZY MOBILE PORTS TO FLOOD YOUR GOD DAMN STORE.

DON'T LET PEOPLE CHARGE MONEY FOR BROKEN MODS. TAKE SOME FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY WITH YOUR PLATFORM.
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>>292040775
STOP, STOOOP HE'S ALREADY DEAD
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>>292040775
>doing computer repair
>"hey my computer has been a little slow recently, can you take a look at it"
>boot her up
>shit like that immediately comes up
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>>292045980
Nope. You can have it go directly into your bank account. People have been going around saying a lot of uninformed stuff about this. You also don't have to make $400 to start seeing money, but a $100 minimum that will be given to you at the end of the month and if you don't reach it, it'll carry over to the next month meaning you're not losing money.

The only problem I see with this is it'll just make developers lazier when it comes to making games. They can capitalize off the modders to make their games essentially. Shitty textures a simple patch can fix? Fuck that. We can make money off the person who's willing to spend their free time to do it for us at a fraction of what it would cost to pay one of our staff. Modders will be their undocumented workers and the people making these games will eventually lose their jobs as they can outsource the work to the modding community.
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>>292047189
>Valve takes a gross percentage. 75% goes to other people, you make only 25% when you do all the work
You're using their service to distribute your mod, which also uses a developer's IP.
>Valve refuses to moderate or quality control products THEY CHARGE MONEY FOR.
Once I actually start seeing this, I will agree that it's bullshit, I won't jump to conclusions without sufficient evidence.
>There is rampant theft going on, people downloading mods from other sites and putting them up as their own and charging money. Valve refuses to do anything about this currently.
This is bullshit and I agree, hopefully there will be counter measures implemented.

The rest of the point, hopefully regulation will make it work out in the end, but for now I can agree that it's also bullshit.
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>>292037562
>>292037801
you're the one implying bethesda should make money off content creator when content creators and content users already bought the game
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>>292038313
do you pay a monthly fee to the constructor that assembled your car?

and yet, it takes you to work, allowing you to get richer than yesterday...
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>>292033696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOkJaJjfzbE&ab_channel=Deliii1995
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>>292042174
> >There's also the fact this has divided the modding community a bit, which heavily relies on group cooperation and collaboration.
>modders already taking down their work so it won't be abused
>mods subject to copyright which hinders collaboration and freeflow of information
Valve already won.
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>>292048201
Valve doesn't regulate anything on their platform, dude.

There are shovelware games uploaded everyday that break copyright laws and valve doesn't care. Anyone can force their game through greenlight (through giving people free copies if they vote yet).

And even if its valve's platform, 75%? Really?
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>>292040867
>not using adblock
oh wait this is bait inst it
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>>292048554
You do realize Valve isn't taking the whole 75% right?

It's also to pay the developer of the game, since you're using their IP. That's how you make it legal to sell it.
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>>292038938
The proper term is "self-entitlement", you dickmunch.
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>>292048787
Modders still only make 25%, it doesn't matter where the rest of the money goes. They do all the work and get pennies on the dollar.
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Fuck gabe.
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>>292044776
fucking lord i love warcraft 3 frozen throne
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>>292049181
Compared to making nothing at all?

By fucking god man, you are dense as fucking tungsten.
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Why don't people trust the market to correct itself? I thought most people on /v/ were libertarians. They should be loving this.
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We'll title this tape: Gaming About To Be Recycled

Gaming About to be Recycled, Your Only Chance to Evacuate is to Leave With Us
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I don't understand Valve taking a 75% cut. If modders want to be paid, wouldn't it be better just to ask for donations at that point in comparison to getting fucking pennies?
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>>292049567
Last I heard mods linking to donations got deleted off the workshop.
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>>292049567
Valve removes links to donations.
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>>292049567
Because it's really just another way milk their userbase for more money, all while flying the flag of "It's for the modders!" so dumbasses don't catch on and blindly defend this shit
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>>292049554
That non-blinking cunt. I wanna punch him in his fucking eyes.
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>>292049969
He didn't live so good.
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>>292040867
Guess I'm a double pirate then HARR HARR
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>>292040618
This... this one got me.

How the mighty have fallen.

Midas Magic was the best spell mod in Oblivion, back when modders used to make mods simply because they loved the game so much and wanted to share their creations with everyone else.

They took our modders, our community friends and leaders, and turned them into just another corporate face.

What an appropriate title.

Fuck...
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>>292038363
25% more than 0 is still 0
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>>292033696
Is this supposed to be a jab at Jewben or Valve or something?

Or is it just a troll mod?
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>>292037320
10/10
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>>292037320
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>>292037320
>Named Beth
>Is rich as fuck
>Still begs for money
>Siting on a valve
>On a vent with steam coming out of it

The sad thing is, Valve and Bethesda won't understand the joke.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NszI8b9bevM

W A K E
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>>292037320
>>292037320
MOD OF THE FUCKING DECADE
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what site hosts the best mod torrents?
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>>292037709
fuck you
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>>292039060
can you rape that bitch in that game?
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>Blaming Valve

All Valve did was enable your precious modders becoming full jews. Modders can still host their mods for free, but if they choose not to then it is their fault, no Valve's.

I don't like this either, but at least direct your anger to the right party, you idiots.
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>>292040283
Exactly. People were modding as a hobby, insisting they're now entitled to money for that is ridiculous. The real issue though and the one Valve wants everyone to forget about is that they were known for hiring up all the good mods teams. This is ultimately just them showing they won't do that anymore and you'll have to go elsewhere. I'm sure the people making mods are too busy paying attention to this shit to realise that everything they've been working towards is gone. Everyone said Valve would hire the Black Mesa guys, instead they sold them tools to make it by themselves. The team were idiots to think they'd get hired but this is the final nail in that coffin, now no one will. Have fun making $12 a year off your mods though.
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>>292051506
And then people can steal them and put them up for money, and shut down the free version.
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>>292051275
Sick fuck, wear our the mods?
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>>292050706
There is no hope left in this hobby
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>>292050706
Midas magic is also noticeably not the best magic mod in skyrim. Apocalypse is better.
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>>292051619
>>>4chan Workshop
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>>292051761
suck my nuts
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>>292037320
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>>292051761
STFU
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>>292043802

It is a big deal when several of the mods that were for sale had assets made by other modders who aren't getting a cut of the extremely small check.

Not to mention that these mods also all require SKSE and the creators of that aren't getting anything either.

Aaaaand they all have SkyUI integration and the creator of that isn't getting anything.

Are you starting to see the problem here? The Skyrim modding community is so fucking tightly knit that a modder selling their mod isn't just selling their mod, they are selling their mod that is chuckful of assets that are now considered STOLEN. This shit isn't fucking cool man.
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>>292046259
>>292048201

>you should be paying money to ford every time you fill in the gas tank
>after all, you're using their assembled cars to go from home to work and make money that way

>>292048787
>you should be paying money to exxon mobil every time you fill up the gas tank of your ford on top of the initial price they set, and do not forget that you have to pay your share to ford as well, because you're using their cars
>you don't have the right to complain, you're just entitled, you are a man baby
>you probably also hate women

>>292049481
>you can't complain about the new situation! because before, you didn't get anything! so you will shut up and spread those ass cheek now, the mafia has come to town to take over it and none of you will complain because we're offering you money now! you just gotta have to take it deep in the ass
>it won't hurt, we'll use lube
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>>292052075
I don't think I've ever seen a mod without a bunch of other peoples work in too, except for those ones where it's literally just a sword.
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>>292052286

Exactly, if you aren't just making a weapon pack or armor set from scratch chances are you are probably going to be using shit made by someone else and this has always been cool but now with money involved it is very uncool.

To Chesko's credit it seems that he has taken down that fishing mod mentioned in that exchange but that doesn't excuse those faggots Isoku and volvaga0 that made Wet and Cold.

They have assets created by over 15 different modders in their mod, and they seem to refuse to respond to people about it.
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>>292052848
That's disgusting. Maybe I'm getting old or something but I really can't believe the way people are behaving, the second they see dollar signs they all lose their minds.
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>>292033696
This is fucking brilliant
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>>292037320
tanatatan
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>>292052075
This is a mess

I really can't remember any of my lewd mods that don't need at least other 5 mods to work.
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>>292040867
>giving a fuck about what a faggot like you thinks
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>>292051275

Did he make that rabbit shit out its own guts? That's fucking metal.
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>>292033696
Needs to be a family of NPCs (last name Maud) that drops off cash every once in a while then goes back to their cardboard box.
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>>292051275
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>>292037320
>>292033696

I can feel it.
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Is a modder entitled to the sweat of his mod?
"No!" Says the member on nexus is belongs to the players
"no" says the /v/-video games it belongs for free
"No" says the consumer it belongs game files
I chose I another choice, I choose Steam Workshop. Where the modder need not be restricted by the players
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>>292056443

holy autismus
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>>292044171
You mean the love of money.
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>>292057329
Same difference, we all know what we're talking about.
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>>292039904
Yeah that's why the Nexus is taking a cut of profits.
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>>292056443
Hobbyists aren't entitled to shit and if they want to be they need to up their game and make something worth buying. I wouldn't buy a tea cozy from etsy, I'm not buying a mod. Fuck you.
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>>292040775
I know this is 3 hours old, but does anyone have that webm where the guy opens a file called video.exe and his pc just shuts down?
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>>292037876
if the price is too high the market will decide.

if some modders release their swords for free people will surely flock to those, it just seems odd to be against the entire principle of being paid for your work, surely its up to the person creating the work to decide how they make it available.

the way valve have implemented this thing is super shitty and they shouldnt be taking a 75% cut, and the way people are making a quick buck by uploading other peoples mods as their own is also really shitty, but it seems like lots of people on 4chan are suddenly angry about modders selling their own work.
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>>292057790
nobody is forcing you to though.
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