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Are voice actors as important to video games as they think they are?

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Are voice actors as important to video games as they think they are?
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>>285351301
l i t e r a l l y w h o
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There was a whole generation of games without VO - games we still play to this day

They're the least important part outside of adding just a hint of flavor
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>>285351301

in this era yes.

back then no.

mario games and sonic games had no voices.
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>>285351301
if they were good, yes.

but they're mostly trash.
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>>285351301
Any self respecting Voice Actor who is also a real actor would never sign op for this.
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>>285351301
yes, because no one wants to read subs while listening to some slant eyed fuck spewing moon runes from his rice eating mouth
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Maybe something good will come out of this and Persona 5/Final Fantasy XV won't get dubbed.

Actually, then they'd just go with shitty non-union VAs wouldn't they
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>>285351473
>I don't play video games
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Unless we're talking about Legacy of Kain I don't give a shit about voice acting.
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>>285351301
I don't like the fact that everything is dubbed now.

I remember how shocked I was when I discovered FF X had voice acting. And that it sucked balls.
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>>285351301
You tell me.

http://youtu.be/bangt7d9vGA
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>>285351301
>Games sell more than DVDs
>That means it's more strenuous to voice act for games
That doesn't even make sense
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>tits strong

stupid sexy slut MILF voice actor.
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I want to fuck Tara Strong and her gigantic titties.
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>>285351775
>i know every voice actor
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>>285351301

I would prefer if video games didn't have voice acting.

Writing in games tends to be
>higher quality
>more flexible
>bigger branches

When there's no VA involved. VA has pretty much ruined/dumbed down RPGs.
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Yes and no. Good voice acting is always a plus but sometimes they just want to throw the job to celebs who can't VA or just do it for the easy paycheck (you can just tell Daniel Craig doesn't want to be there in the 007 games he VA) and it ruins the game because more money went into getting them to voice a few things, advertising they are in the game, etc
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>>285351301
How does videogame VA "blow your chords"? Is it somehow different from everything else?
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>>285352156
this is what I want to know.

And why do video game devs have to pay for it?
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>>285351301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE596PBdQQg
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>>285351938
If there wasn't a break in the statement you would have a point, but there is.

They are two separate statements.

>>285351894
That music seems so out of place with the VAs
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>>285352074
There was some Dragon Age sperg in a thread once saying that VA doesn't hurt a games storytelling or depth to its writing/choices

I'd love to see any company do another PS:T style script again with full voice acting
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Nope.

All their union will do is choke out any new talent, so prepare for another 15 years of the same 4 VAs!
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>>285352064
I don't, but who doesn't know Tits Strong?
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>>285351894
Wow. Just wow.
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>>285351301
Lel, practically any game can do without voice actors, they are just an add on.
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>Plus, they can replace the voices and no one can tell the diddly-ifference
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I think good voice actors deserve good compensation.
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>>285352082
How about hack voice actors that just plain suck at acting like pic related?
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>>285351938
they're both true(who even buys physical movies anymore)
but they're completely unrelated.
games are usually at least twice as long as anything on dvd. It's irrelevant though because they already only work 4 hours a day.

seeing all this hashtag bs and no explanations anywhere of what they're even trying to accomplish. From what I can gather they just want to raise their prices even higher.
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Grim Fandango without voice acting would not be the same.
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>>285351301
Is this a thinly vieled Tara Strong thread?
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>>285352427
Tara Strong is literally meme tier that only fags that watch MLP would recognize
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>>285351301
Nice thinly veiled thread you brony fuck
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Her voice alone gives me boners.

Imagine fucking her while she does her Mitsuru voice.
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>>285352393
>I'd love to see any company do another PS:T style script again with full voice acting

Yeah, and that company would go straight into debt.

I mean, I'm not asking for high literature here. I just think that writers can take a lot more risk if they don't have to worry about a voice actor further down the game production pipeline.

At least, when the writing is quality. I didn't think Divinity: Original Sin's writing was any good; I'm not sure whether to blame the ESL status of the Belgians who made the game or the actual skill of the writers.
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>>285352156
Lots of yelling, I assume. Think about how many takes it takes to do fighting game cries
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>>285351301
No. You can just get any bum from the street. Being a VO is a job usually given to friends, they're pushing it.

I think hiring bums to do VO work would be a great idea actually, they might even be better than the random chick that half asses everything.
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Voice acting is one of the reasons the RPG genre died
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>>285352268
ghost tcr, the guy in the video sounded like a fruit bowl.
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>>285352717
Can she do a girly voice? I only hear her as tomboy and mature girls.
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>>285352792
So don't do fighting games you little bitch baby
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>>285352717
Now imagine Yuri Lowenthal fucking her in their voices.
Because that happens.
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>>285351301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm8gtaGktyg
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>>285352561
Fuck you, Blum is great. He was Wolverine./
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>>285351301
I'd say probably not. Their actors so their ego and sense of self worth is automatically inflated in most cases.
And yea, sure some of them are probably cool people etc. but what they provide in games is still greatly overvalued by everyone imo. But I understand why it is the way it is and I have zero interest in fighting it.
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Not really. There are a couple good ones, but most of them are trash.

>>285351473
/thread
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>>285352268
Thats awful.
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>>285352682
>Tara Strong is literally meme tier

My point exactly, she is one of the more known VA's

Plus she's been doing Cartoon and Vidya VA work for many years now.

May not know her name, but sure as hell know at least one of her works.
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Lots of games are better without VA anyway imo, especially RPGs
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>>285351301
>Are voice actors as important to video games as they think they are?
No.

BTW how can games sell more than DVD? I believe they make more money, but I don't think they sell more.
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>>285352682
You kidding? She's very wellknown among manchildren and other assorted 4chinlings. She's voiced half the animated shows you've watched.
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>>285351301
>R asking 4
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>>285352792
That's dependent on the game, not something you can apply globally. Also, given how bad I find a lot of english VA yelling, I would say a few at most.

Also, CLAIRE!
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They aren't as important as they think they are
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>>285352910
>Yosuke fucking Mitsuru

It's just like one of my Japanese animes.
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>>285352682
Hello, are you aware that you need to be 18 to post on this board? Because you're apparently too young to recognize her from all the fucking cartoons and games she's voiced over the years. Completely unknown games like FF X and MGS Peace Walker / 5
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVK_eRHZoVQ

Them tities
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>>285351301
>voice acting is already so expensive only AAA can really afford it
>wants voice actors to become more expensive
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I could argue famous VAs already get fucking over paid simply for their name.

I could also argue that many positions at AAA games are far overpaid and in extreme excess, which is why we have giant fucking bloated budgets.

Unionizing is stupid and going to shut them out of alot of work from naive or new studios who can't or won't work with unions. It will lock them forever to companies like EA and activision and the like. Which is fine as long as those companies are doing well and willing to put up with their shit. After all voice acting IS a talent and a skill. BUT it's also something that might get pulled from anywhere. I mean wasn't glados just some valve employee's mom? And look how well she sold their IP.
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>Voice actors get their way
>Devs can't be fucked paying them extra, instead devote money that would've gone to VA back into the writing
>A new renaissance of RPGs with god tier writing begins
>Everything is right with video games again

Fuck voice acting. I can read, nigger, I don't need some cunt reading the words already on the screen, shit makes zero difference.
All I need is a HUT or HUH every time the character jumps or attacks or some shit and it's fine.
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>>285351301
VA here (and no, I haven't been in anything big)

Doing voiceover work for games is very strenuous. There are days where you literally yell for 4 straight hours.

If a VA loses their voice from a day of recording, they're pretty fucked. They won't be able to record for like the rest of the week, which means they get no money
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>>285352792
I'd assume video games are much easier since a lot of the time you're only recording little snippets and battle cries instead of doing an entire scene in one take.
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>>285352850
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>>285353043
>>285353010
Doesn't matter unless you're an autist who obsesses over VA
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>>285352717
Yuri Lowenthal probably gets to whenever he wants since they're married. Think about that for a second. The p3 MC literally gets to fuck best P3 girl any time he wants.
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I see no reason why they shouldn't. More protection for quality VA's and less reason to throw shitty voice acting in games because of a feature checklist
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UNIONS WORKED OUT SO WELL FOR COMPOSERS, RITE GUISE?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvraGNfKVY
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>>285351301
Id rather we went back to no voice acting and not dealing with shitty offputing voices from these hacks.
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>>285353025
On average CDs and animated films do not sell over 5-6million. Not a whole lot of games do, but think of it this way.

Guitar Hero Aerosmith sold better than EVERY ONE of their records.
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>shitty loser actors who had to settle with video games pretending their work is worth shit in a medium that is all about gameplay/graphics/wrting/music
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>>285353025
how much dvds do you think fairly odd parents sell?
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>>285353105

fucking this
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Isn't voice acting already a union job? They don't need the community's support. All they have to do is strike if they actually care.
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>>285351301
>>285353110
I thought VAs were unionized and safe working hours were the first things to be enforced.
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>>285353087
I may have heard her, but so what?

Am I supposed to be impressed that Tara Strong can do the job she was paid money to do?
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>>285353043
>animated shows you've watched
Good thing I don't watch animated shows then
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>>285352082

There's also the issue that some actors need good direction, whereas a lot of VA work is just getting a script thrown at you and being told "Read that".

Case in point, Dinklage in Destiny. He sounds so fuckign deadpan and lifeless, you can hear him just reading the words off the page. When he's the guy you have to listen to the most, it really fucks things up.
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VAs should certainly earn more than they do for AAA titles. It's really odd thinking the guys behind GTA V got less than $100,000 for their time and talent.
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Can we all agree on one thing? Dan Schneider's voice work in GTA: Vice City as a pedestrian was really good.
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>>285352792
but all the english va's in street fighter 4 are garbage cept for cody guile and maybe one other i'm missing.
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>>285353132
good post
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I'm perfectly fine with games that don't have full voice-overs for everything.

In fact, games were better prior to the philosophy of voice-overs for everything which was a byproduct of the fact the "mainstream audience" the publishers all want to pander to are mostly nigh-illiterate morons.
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>>285353235
They do tons of voiceover though. For commercials and stuff
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>>285352561
2/10, made me reply
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>>285353331
Is that something to brag about while frogposting on a misogyny website?
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>>285353152
No worse than an autist who complains on an anonymous image board
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>>285352561
Blum CAN actually act, it's just that he's super type cast into his roles. He's one of the top go to guys for a "grisly" voice.
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>>285351301
How much do voice actors get paid right now? I can't tell you if they should get paid more or not if I don't know their current pay. But general opinion is that voice acting isn't a hard job nor is it a job that only a select few can do.
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>>285352393
To be fair Torment is practically a 5000 page choose your own adventure book with a AD&D ruleset. I'd prefer less flavor text in exchange for more voiced dialogue.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGHmr3D4Mnc

Good voice acting turns good games into masterpieces.
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>>285353454
I'm not rusing anything - Steve Blum sucks
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>>285352884
No, for that, you need Laura Bailey.
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>>285353293
its probably one of the only union jobs where if the corporation cared enough, they could completely shut them down because they could hire just about anyone they want from the street to do the job the exact same if not better.
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So they'll just hire freelancers or destitute theatre students.

I'm tired of hearing Troy Baker as every protagonist.
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>>285351301
hell fucking no, RE1 had shit voice acting to the point of hilarity and people still love that
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>>285351301
Video games are more profitable than film or TV now because of how cheap VA's are
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>>285353323
>safe working hours
>for reading into a microphone
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>Women doing voices for male characters.

This. Needs. To. Fucking. Stop
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>>285351301
why does she type like a nigger?
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>Voicing games can blow your chords
Maybe you should exercise your voice more and stop being such a pussy. I used to sing tenor in a college choir and I sang 16 concerts in a 4-day period with no repercussions.

I'm all for fair compensation of good voice actors. Maybe Tara Strong should try being a good VA instead of prattling on about how she thinks she deserves more than she's worth.
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Well it's true. Games sell way more than straight to dvd cartoon bullshit, they deserve to be paid more. You know, proportional to their contribution to the game. So if it's GTA or something they should be paid WAY more. But if they're just doing grunts or shit for a 2d indie platformer, no.
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>>285352156

There's a stage of VA work for a game where you get to the random grunts, yells and shit. They do them all in a single day, usually after the rest of the VA is done.

You're just told "Alright we need a scream. No, louder. No, thats not it, a bit more high pitched. Go a bit longer this time" etc. You're justs tanding in a booth fucking screaming, yelling and grunting for a fucking day, and it can leave your throat fucked and you out of work for a few days.
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the (few) ones that actually have range and perform well are. the one off movie actors that devs waste money hiring aren't.
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Tara strong just wants more money for having to deal with brony autists

http://youtu.be/RedDrzFMFNA
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I would make a personal protein donation to Grey Delisle and Jennifer Hale, if you know what I mean.
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>>285353234
NOPE, not even USA alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosmith_albums_discography
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To this day I wonder why they paid Liam Neeson an extraordinary amount of money instead of getting a whole bunch of VA`s like in FO:NV.
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>>285351301
>Tara Strong
>Literally who
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Strong#Video_games - literally look at all this garbage.url
>Well over 50 games VO and other shit still isn't mute
>demands 4 fair compensation

Japan does a better job and gets way less than you how is that in any way or form fair? Unless you're asking to make less.

Also why are you even bitching your making more than actual decent female VO's since most of that shit seems AAA.

I doubt huniepop's VO's made any more than you did.

Pro-tip: If you would budget yourself you wouldn't be bitching about money. Probably spends over 60% of her income treating herself in luxury she can't truly afford.
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>>285351775
It's more like
>I don't bother watching the credits
because honestly, who the fuck cares? You shouldn't be able to tell a good voice actor by their voice anyways
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>>285353549
Just remember, it was never meant to be shitty.

>>285353494
Shadows of the Damned was one of his best roles. Yes, most of it is his standard voice with a Spanish accent, but then you get parts where Garcia has trouble reading English.
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>>285353642
>I sang 16 concerts in a 4-day period with no repercussions.

Go away, intercom.
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>>285351301
>complaining about shit on twitter

Organise a fucking trade union if you want fair compensation, you dumb fuck. But you know what? She doesn't want fair compensation. She wants to be paid like a fucking pop star, because, fuck, like we didn't have a metric shit ton of useless millionaires blowing money on coke and recording shitty LPs.
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>>285353527
Laura can do anything. She made a shitty game like 13-2 bearable.
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Yes they should pay more. a video game makes a company more profit than a summer blockbuster film does. Why does some shit actor like Marky Mark get 10 million a film but someone doing a massive RPG gets like 20k?
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>>285352717
>tara pl-who?
>check imdb
>known for weebshit
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ITT: Games that were made by their voice acting

>SOVEREIGN, YOUR BUILDING HAS BEEN UPGRADED
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>>285353604
Name an adult male voice actor who can do a little boy's voice.
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>>285351301
If it's a story heavy game with voice acting, yes. Bad voice acting can easily kill a game.
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>>285353642
Changing the timbre of your voice is more taxing than singing.
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>>285351894
>actually using Chaos Wars to make a serious point
You are aware that purposefully had literally no effort put into because they were just required to have an english voice track and they knew the target audience would switch to Japanese right away? And that literally no one in that video is a professional voice actor?
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>>285353642
Vocaroo
Let's hear it.
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>>285353756
>Aerosmith is unaware of their own sales
Man that's sad
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>>285353678
TV voice actors do the same though. Just look at DBZ.
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>>285353861
This. How the fuck do people not realize this?
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>>285353293

Actors are unionised. Voice actors aren't given serious representation. A lot get blacklisted if they even try and join a union.
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>>285353785

Except the exact opposite? What the fuck
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No, and it seems like most of the time modern games blow their budget on VAs and advertisement. It's much easier just to have a few lines voiced, and have basic grunts recorded. The consumers can read and the voice comes naturally to their head through text.
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That awful youtube LPer who only ever made popular videos because he said stupid shit like "tittysprinkles" in his deep voice for the entire duration of them went into voice acting and now shills the shitty games he got bit parts in.
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>>285353642
Yelling and screaming does way more damage to your vocal chords than faggot singing, you dumb faggot. Besides, you get free inner neck massages after every performance when you're in a choir.
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>>285353057
You have limited amount of spaces to use in a tweet
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>>285351830
Well, pic in question was responsible for Rikku.
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>>285353756
Huh, I seemed to have mixed up the quote too.

Apparently it made more money for them than their albums.
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If a male VA made this tweet /v/ would defend it. They're only shitting on her because "OMG WOMEN IN GAMES SHE WILL DESTROY MUH HOBBY"

Prove me wrong.
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>>285353815
>>285353778
>>285353235
>>285352561
>ITT neets deride working people for being entitled while waiting on their mom to make them chicken tenders
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>>285353785
>use this in the united states of freedom
>get your dog shot to death by cops
>get tackled onto the floor and shot execution style
>it's only protocol
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>>285352682
except she's done tons of other voices including
Rikku
Bubbles
Raven
Batgirl
Ben 10
Omi
Timmy Turner
Paz
Wonder Pink
just to name a few.

>>285352561
Hey, he's awesome as long as he doesn't do the generic Steve Blum Spike Spiegel voice. I agree I'm tired of hearing that shit.
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>>285354009
Well they're hardly a good voice actor if you can tell it's them every time.
Are you even aware of what their job is?
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Post more of Tara Strong's fat milky tits
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>>285354021
>way more damage to your vocal chords than faggot singing, you dumb faggot
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>>285353549
>RE1 had shit voice acting to the point of hilarity
i thought it was spoofing/was an homage to cheesy b horror movies
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>>285352156
Depending on the game, there could be a LOT more lines than the average TV show.
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>>285353594
You mean because of how ridiculously overpriced Hollywood actors are.
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>>285354020

>not liking cr1tikal

At least the shilled money goes to charity.
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>>285354084
epic
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>>285352561
>steve blum

That's obviously Chris "orcs on the brain" Metzen
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>>285353105
>>285353273
No, you fucking idiots, you don't pay writers more and suddenly get better writing. You do the best job you possibly can regardless of what you get paid. Your next paycheck is depending on it, no position in this industry is guaranteed.
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>>285353678
I see. Why not break it up over several days or even 2? Might even give them VA some time to think about how to scream, or whatever actors think when doing voice over. Is that what they're unionizing for, cause I can understand that
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>>285353778
Japan VA's get paid out the ass brah. Large reason certain games come here with their original Japanese audio removed.
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How exactly can it blow your chords? How is it any less stressful than filming a show? Most games only contain maybe 2-3 hours of actual talking, no different than a movie between the characters.
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>>285352682
fuck off, retard
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>>285353973

Yeah, and those VAs get treated like fucking shit too. It can be much rarer for tv shows though. DBZ is probably the most extreme screaming ever.

A lot of them don't even want much, they just want the screaming shit spread out throughout recording, not bunched up into one day at the end so they have to take three days off afterwards.
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>>285353778
>Japan does a better job and gets way less

Hahano. Japanese VAs are treated like actual talent and are paid in proportion. They get way more than American VAs.
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>>285351301
If a voice actor worked 50 hours or less and made 100,000 dollars a year I would think that is more than fair.

That is more than programmers, who typically burnout in there job, didn't go into for passion and work far more hours, make.
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>>285351301
literally everyone in the game industry is horrifically underpaid except for the big dumb famous studio heads and the producers

the attrition rate for technical people moving into similar jobs that pay 3x is much is atrocious. that's not exaggeration, one of my friends literally went from irrational to general computing and got a 3x pay raise. basically the entire industry only functions on the back of exploited young people who really want to break in

so anyway yeah VAs are probably underpaid. everyone else is
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