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>You will never again level in Duskwood and get killed by

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>You will never again level in Duskwood and get killed by Mor'ladim
>You will never again LF2M need tank and healer
>You will never again fly to Southshore and trek all the way to SM
>You will never again get corpsecamped by an undead rogue named Cadaveer
>You will never again have a two-day long AV battle
>You will never again go into a world where you have no idea what's going on or where you'll head, and just discover things as you go along
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>you will never again explore without caring for exp/hour
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>two-day long AV battle

There were longer battles. With every single NPC summon.

Fuck that bridge though.
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there wouldn't have been 2 day long AV games if all those faggot undead rogues didn't fucking ninja back cap everything back and have us at the bridge again
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>>284961517
>no longer travelling to a meeting stone for your party.
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>>284962452
That's what they're there for.
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>the sense of adventure, the sense of danger, the sense of comradery: all gone from World of Warcraft.
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>My last hope in mmos
It'll probably be shit, as MMOs have taught me

That run from SS to SM is still one of my favorite moments because it was fucking spoopy and mysterious when I was a kid, and the conversations were pretty based. Made a lot of friends in vanilla because of all the running that needed to be done.
>You will never travel for hours on both continents for shaman class quests
>You will never again curse the days of totems taking up bag space
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>not knowing everything/anything about the game. Everything you see and do is completely new.. Gone forever.
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>>284961517
>Accidentally piss off Rukhmar just by being near her and get gibbed instantly and horrifically
>End up having to avoid a questing spot until she left
>Had to fly to Southshore and trek all the way to SM since I had no flight paths while leveling a lowbie
>Flagged myself for PvP for funsies, indeed get corpsecamped by an undead rogue for an hour or so until they got bored and left--had fun regardless
>had no idea what I was doing while leveling; felt the guides were game-ruining and only use guides to learn how to raid and use my classes better

It's honestly not that hard, but I guess most people when leveling just spam dungeons all day instead of questing. Not that I blame them, low level questing is fucking awful
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>>284962827
This guy gets it.
I was debating rerolling another shaman, just to see how badly they butchered the early questlines.
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you wowbabbies need to realize you get this feeling for any mmo you play for the first time. i have this feel with everquest. once you hit that point in the mmo where it becomes a min/max farming game, you're never going back. no new mmo will recreate that feel for you since all you're going to do is skip quest dialog and follow a marker on your minimap and grind as fast as possible. visiting stormwind for the first time with that music hitting your face, taking a flight path for the first time, doing your first instance tanking with a 2hander, joining a party for the first time are just "my first mmo" feels anyone gets for any mmo
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>you will never again ask a level 50 night elf warrior you found idling in Stormwind how he got from Kalimdor to EK
>you will never again take the tram from SW to Ironforge and then undertake the perilous journey to the Wetlands harbor at level 29 using just the ingame map
>you will never arrive in Theramore and realize "holy shit, this is a whole new fucking continent that I have yet to explore."
>you will never again meander accidentally into the Barrens and see Horde lowbies questing
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>>284963330
>you wowbabbies need to realize you get this feeling for any mmo you play for the first time

My first MMO was FFXI yet I still had those feelings with WoW. Fuck off with blaming it on nostalgia.
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>>284963339
It hurts. Stop it.
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>>284963218

they didn't butcher it at all. It's completely gone.

"Oh, hey, you're a shaman? Go kill this faggot 15 steps away and become a fire master."
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You guys know this, https://en.nostalrius.org/, is literally coming out tomorrow right?
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The moment I walked into Stormwind for the first time on my level 8 paladin and that Alliance music hit is one of the most important and memorable events in my gaming life.
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Psst. https://en.nostalrius.org/
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>>284963610
Part of what made old WoW fun is that no one knew what the shit they were doing.
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>>284963392
>FFXI
of course you'll have those feels still. FFXI was shit you retarded faggot
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>>284963752
Yeah sure, vanilla wow is still fun to play though and its a damn lick better then anything else on the market.
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http://liquidcode.org/~lostman/wow/dkeserver.se/stuff/angwe/
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>>284961517
Pig disgusting alliance faggot.

>You will never again level in Silverpine and get killed by son of Arugal
>You will never again LFM rogue and mage need CC
>You will never again gather at Kargath and bus your way to MC
>You will never tag mobs right in front of bot hunters in Azshara and have them kill it for you
>You will never wait in front of Warsong Gulch's portal near Ashenvale for the queue to proc
>You will always have your little hidden spot no one goes to in Deadwind pass to get comfy when you're sad
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>You will never again fly to Southshore and trek all the way to SM
>playing alliance
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>You will never again raid with a mismatched gear of int, str and spirit while holding a firestone in offhand
>You will never again play roulette while summoning a doomguard
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>>284961517
Ever heard of the new private wow servers that run vanilla? Their pretty good ive heard.
called like wow one or something.
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>>284963330
I played Vanilla WoW again on a relatively well working private server and while the feeling of going through everything for the first time was not there, the social aspect of the game was almost identical to the old times.

Even if everyone knows what they're up to, there's still a sense of struggle and adventure when banding together with complete strangers and doing quests and raids together, forming stronger bonds.

It's especially great on private servers because the community is a little bit tighter and you'll run into a couple of people you've ran dungeons with a bit more often.


The reason modern WoW is so shit is because it completely lacks the social aspect. You don't have to struggle with anyone because everything is easier. You don't have to be nice to people because you can get in a party with the click of a button. There's no sense of adventure because everything can be teleported to and farmed the fuck out of without any effort.

And I'm not saying vanilla didn't have farming because it had it more than any expac does, but the point is that it's less automated because difficulty was harsher.
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>>284963856
>FFXI was shit you retarded faggot

XD
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>>284963702
>Not using the new player models
I don't know if I can go back to those ugly looking pieces of shit. I guess vanilla will have to remain nostalgia forever.
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>>284961517
nostalrius vanilla server launches tomorrow, looks bretty good
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>>284963610
>Live WoW has no content!
>willing to play nearly 10 year old content forever
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>>284963856

No MMO world has, or ever will, surpass XI's.
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>>284965367
Live WoW has more content, its just all shitty content.
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You know what finally killed WoW for me?

All the dam loading screens. When I started playing the only time you saw one was when you logged in, entered a dungeon, or changed continents. That's it. It was all one big seamless world, and that was a great thing.

At some point it just became loading screen after loading screen, I blame the group finder.
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>>284963752
>https://en.nostalrius.org/
Well, alot of people probably still wont, most people didnt get anywhere near the true and full exp of vanilla wow.

Plus with the gradual release its likely people will forget shit and adapt to old stuff only to have to readapt. Looks like their making changes/improvments of their own to blizzards old stuff aswell.
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Literally all of these complaints don't apply to anyone above the age of 12.
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These threads fuck with my emotions so bad
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>>284962335
>more than 10 years later.
>Blizzard still has adjusted and balanced AV
>Still favors Alliance so much it's hillarious.
>modern WoW-babbies on Alliance side will act like Blizzard hates them, never knowing true favoritism.
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>>284966394
>a thread about nostalgia for a game that came out 11 years ago only applies to 12 year olds
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>>284964762
OMG LOL SPOT ON NIGGA
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>>284966762
Hey i actually got the breastplate of the chromatic flight.

I was farming ubrs or whatever for breastplate of valor from final boss. Was farming like a million times.

Then, gyth the dragon when your fighting warcheif rend or whatever, drops some fucking epic crystal or some shit. This is really fucking rare, like 0,002 or less.

I convince everyone its nothing of use and get it. Then you get this long ass quest which takes forever and you have to get a shit ton of items that are a pain in the ass to get.

10 blood of heroes were among them. I got some chinese guy from a chinese guild called East dragon show we around all the boh spawn points after getting like half.

http://www.wowhead.com/quest=5166/breastplate-of-the-chromatic-flight

Damn that feel when i got the breastplate, it beat the valor one by far and pretty much nobody had that chest even if there were others far superior.
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>>284966695
oh no alliance has 1 BG that they win
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>>284967453
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>>284967635
Thank you

based faggot
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>You will never again go into a world where you have no idea what's going on or where you'll head, and just discover things as you go along
I am not sure if it was just that people didn't bother to look up everything back then/the informations and sources were too hidden/unknown or it was just that sort of mentally didn't exist back then for the most part.
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>>284963856
Bait
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>>284963610
I'm sure I'll play it for three weeks and then stop once the nostalgia wears off.
I only even played Vanilla up to level 22 anyway.
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>implying I had the flight path to Southshore
>implying I didn't walk all the way from Loch Modan to SM
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>>284961517
>You will never again go into a world where you have no idea what's going on or where you'll head, and just discover things as you go along

I am getting extremely sick of this argument, which gets made about every MMO that's been around for a while.

This didn't happen because the game was better, it happened because you were young and/or new to the genre. Most of the time, as you experience that game and become accustomed to the genre (and also become older and more experienced in general) these things don't happen anymore when you move to a new MMO.

Admit it, it's the goggles acting up. I'm a hardcore BCfag through and through, but even I'll admit that this is the truth, at least in regards to that last one OP.
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>>284962493
>travelling to a dungeon before meeting stones existed
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>>284968041

A little of both. Thotbot was the only big WoW resource back then and the game wasn't datamined to hell and back either. Also everyone was new to WoW in the Vanilla days, unlike today where most players have been around for at least 5 years.
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I can't believe how badly RPG's in general got fucked thanks to casuals.
WoW, Elder Scrolls, Diablo, Dark Messiah, 40k, it's all just gone to shit.
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>>284961517

>posting being corpse camped as a positive nostalgic thing

Griefers all need to be gassed.
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>>284967603
don't forget isle of whatever.
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>>284961517
thank god
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>>284963610
>>284963702
I'm gonna laugh when this crashes again because nobody actually wants to play on vanilla servers
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>>284968643
Butt Blasted
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>>284965740
>when you logged in, entered a dungeon, or changed continents
This is still the only time you get a loading screen... you're just saying you're doing a lot more dungeons? And this is bad?
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>>284963330

You're right. There are sharp diminishing returns on what we think of as novelty. A new mmo is new, but it's not going to be novel enough from whatever the first one was that you played, be it WoW or Everquest.

In order to get that amazing feeling of wonder and immersion again the game is going to have to be different enough from things you've already experienced. It would have to be novel to an appreciable degree. There is a hardcap on how far even that feeling goes though, as we've all experienced the medium of video games so much. Well, life in general too I supposed. I would be very surprised if there was a new video game made that was such a distinctly magical new experience that it gave people that sense of wonder and rush snapping into your favorite childhood vidya did for the first time.
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>>284968643

Show me on the doll where the rogue touched you, anon
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>>284961517
>you will never again get a sick quest reward like Restored Archeus that you can't use because it is not equippable by your class
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>>284969060
>selfies
this is literally April Fools joke tier
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>>284969060
>>284969408

There's nothing fun about being camped until you have to log.

I don't get where you think it's fun being camped.

>Just call for help to gank that rogue!
>They hide in stealth for half an hour until the help you called in thinks they're gone and leaves, then resume camping you

It doesn't add anything interesting it's just neckbeards who can't PVP so they choose to take it out on people so low level they can't fight back.
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> lel play a vanilla private server XD

YES

BECAUSE PLAYING A PRIVATE SERVER WILL SURELY WIPE MY MEMORY FROM ALL MMO KNOWLEDGE SO I CAN EXPERIENCE IT ALL OVER AGAIN
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>you will always remember the good times and it will never stop hurting
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>>284963702
Will there be ddos protection this time?
Will there be quality?
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>>284973305
they say so right in the FAQ, FAG.
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im still playing on excalibur-wow
its great fun
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>>284961517
>You will never again LF2M need tank and healer
>You will never again fly to Southshore and trek all the way to SM
>You will never again get corpsecamped by an undead rogue named Cadaveer
>You will never again have a two-day long AV battle

Thank fuck.

>You will never again go into a world where you have no idea what's going on or where you'll head, and just discover things as you go along

I miss this part though.
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>>284961517
>You will never again level in Duskwood and get killed by Mor'ladim
it literally happened last night ;)
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>>284973810
I do as well, what faction are you?
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>be me
>level 30 warrior
>doing dungeons and shit
>wearing full leather armor with + health
>other guy tells me wtf why arent you wearing chain or anything
>oh shit he is right I'm a fucking noob
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2 pretty big vanilla servers are starting just now.
I've played so much retail/private WoW, I feel like all my nostalgia is gone, tho I will try.
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>>284974032
>You will never again have a two-day long AV battle
>Implying those battles weren't fun as fuck.
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>>284975246
If you like zerging maybe
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>>284975246
>>284975382
I don't think you guys understand each other :>
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>>284974915
im horde, what's your name ingame
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>>284961517
you can still do all of those things sans the 2 day AVs which nobody who actually played a lot of AV back in the day want back. the whole "this battleground is actually like a war! it lasts so long!" gimmick wears off pretty quickly and it eventually completely ceased to be touched by serious pvpers because of how low the rewards were comparatively


everything else is just rose tinted nostalgia goggles, you absolutely can still do all of those things but now that you have played wow for years and are older you see through just how utterly pointless it all was
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>You will never again run across both continents to complete a fetch quest so that you can get a useless warlock summon on a twenty minute cooldown
>You will never again figure out new ways to combine your huge arsenal of spells and abilities
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>>284975609
Ninamori, please don't kill me I just started ;)
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>>284975753
>nobody who actually played a lot of AV back in the day want back
this, im actually convinced that everyone who claims this as a good thing didnt actually play back then and just fucking parrot shit that other people say, it sounds cool in theory but in practice is was REALLY fucking boring and didnt give anywhere near the epic feeling that people believe it did
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>>284961517
>>You will never again level in Duskwood and get killed by Mor'ladim
>>You will never again fly to Southshore and trek all the way to SM
>>You will never again get corpsecamped by an undead rogue named Cadaveer
But I wasn't a filthy ally.
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>>284961517
no other MMO had made a zone I love as much as duskwood.
The questline was godtier and it creeped me out.
Also fuck jitters.
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>>284969723
I like world pvp was much as the next person, but I have to admit that almost all of it was low-level ganks. If it wasn't a rogue, it was a mage suddenly throwing a pyroblast at you.
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LF3M Kara need dps
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HUH
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>>284961517
guild wars 2 killed wow
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>>284976642

get a lod of the faggot who clings to one faction
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>>284977825
>A game barely clinging to life support beat wow

wow is the only wow killer that exists
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>>284977937
not him, but GW2 is going strong as fuck

it's not a game better game than wow, but having no subscription fee helps immensely
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>>284977853
>playing in the faction with elves
Is like you wanted to party with 12yo kids and gamurl grrlzs.
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>>284978448

But it's shit. The only reason it's still has players is because of the lack of subs and the fact that it's the most casual MMO out there, all the game is based around cosmetics, that everyone already have since you can buy gold with real money and everything is easy to get in this shit game, and various sidegoals. It's shit.
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>>284963330
This isn't true

I played runescape first and then guild wars and I have more nostalgia for guild wars than I do runescape
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>>284965731
>still willing to play 10 year old content forever
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SEIZE THE ASS TOUCHEERRR!
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Anyone know if Star Trek Online is worth playing?
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>>284961517
>You will never again old WoW

But I do. The server I'm on (the one you all hate) still feels like old game.
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>>284976226
would rewards based on time and contribution spent make a compensation?
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R.I.P
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>>284977071

See I LOVED world PVP when it was semi fair. Like, we'd have 40 v 40 PVE guild vs PVE guild all in raid gear all on VOIP coordinating in massive battles outside of raid instances just because we showed up there at the same time, it was fun as fuck, also we had some amazing world PVP again, PVE raid guilds all showing up at the same time for the same thing, at green dragons and the Scourge Invasion. Very very fun.

I also loved when leveling up in Outlands during TBC I was ganking people I met, I mean we're both leveling up so it was relatively fair, and there were some pure rivalries that grew up out of that.

But nobody was camping, and nobody was just straight up ganking people that couldn't fight back in those situations.

the V in PVP is something I stress. Versus. There's no versus when its a completely one sided fight. That's not PVP that's a PK.

I love PVP, I hate PK.

I tried PK once, I mean I was a druid, I could do it just fine, stealth ganking low level players in Ashvale as soon as they left the protection of the Barrens, or in STV, but you know what? It got boring within oh.. I dunno, 30 minutes. It was slightly more fun to do in booty bay just because of the neutral guards, but still not that fun. The people had no fight in them. Even if I didn't one shot them they just stood there to die or tried to run anyway.

I really did not see what was so fun about the rogue that camped me for 3 solid hours.or the other rogue that camped me in Tanaris until I logged off when leveling up.

It's not really fun at all, it's pitiful that I actually bothered wasting time trying it out.

Ganking is legitimately for scrubs who can't PVP.
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>mfw teebus blazing longsword dropped for me in vanilla

favorite weapon of all time.
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>>284979231

Feenix ? Like the old game ?

Fucking insulting. The pathfinding is an absolute outrage, and even Lazy Peon, which is a level 3 quest for the record, is bugged.

Your brain is creating the feel out of memories, because from a factual standpoint, Feenix is just another fucked up private server.
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>>284975382

zerging can be fun, I mean, it makes you feel like you're in a real pitched battle or war, instead of a contrived feeling duel. The most fun I've had has been zerg PVP outside of raid instances or during world events like opening AQ or Scourge invasion.
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I never played WoW and now it's too late.
What was it like in the good times?
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>>284979959

Better. Longer. Harder.
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>>284979959
Like EQ, but filled with faggots who never played a MMO.
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>>284979662
>Your brain is creating the feel out of memories, because from a factual standpoint, Feenix is just another fucked up private server.

I know it's fucked up and buggy, but at least it actually has a sense of community, at least Archangel Horde which, to me, was the most important and fundamental part of WoW in its entirety.

The current game focuses way too much on the lone player instead of making you play as a group and a community.

And granted, some quests, like Lazy Peons, are bugged, but the vast majority of them are absolutely working and I'm sure that if you can look past a few bugged quests you can enjoy it.
It's not like any of them are required to get anywhere special.
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>>284974757
Because you're garbage.
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>>284962827

That filename is wrong. It should be Everything Burns
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>>284977678

I remember making a petition to a GM whether breaking their Line of Sight (by hiding in a house for example) would result in a ban, due to abuse of mechanics.
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>played hunter first
>had pet food and ammo to manage
>skinner/leatherworker
>get to the barrens
>quests were a lot less linear
>go on runs into the savanna to hunt for leather, would have to come and rearm at xr
>fuck, this zone is fucking huge
>grinding mobs which you felt made the most money for your mount, for literally days
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>>284981040
These are good feelings because even though they were chores, they felt fucking real, y'know?

Since you have these strong memories of it, it's gotta be fond in some way, aye?
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>>284961517
I'm so fucking sick of these threads

Take off the rose tinted goggles. If you were 13 again and just started playing wow today you would think it's the best thing ever.
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>>284981040
also
>making a social guild with a friend
>gathering up at booty bay and swimming north into westfall (because STV was ten levels too high) then to some of the outlying settlements of the elywnn forest to kill npcs because they were the only ones we could kill
>groups of lowbies were actually a threat
>fight off 3-4 guys lower level than you, and actually have it be a good fight
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>>284981310
It was immersive, that's for sure.
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>>284981714
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, I think.
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>>284980257

>I'm sure that if you can look past a few bugged quests you can enjoy it

No i can't. Because we're talking about a 10 years old version of a game i cleaned multiple times, all of that on X1 rates, which takes a considerable amount of time to hit level max. So it's either i'm playing on a very good server, with good scripts, antihack protection, and no corrupted GMs (unlike Feenix), or i don't play it at all. Sick of wasting my time.
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>>284978654
minus the lack of subs you just very precisely decribed wow too
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>>284981613
If there was one thing Rift did right, it was the lowbies of a decent level could fight back against higher level gankers with some effectiveness. My favorite memory was some max level fucker ganking my lvl40~ saboteur while me and my brother were leveling, so we joined together and ran circles around the dude and ended up camping him. Good times.
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>>284981840
Fair enough, I guess.

I know I'm having a good time, at least.

Are there better coded servers? I know about that Corecraft one who'll never get released.
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>>284961517
>playing alliance

hahahaha
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>>284963702
>every vanilla blizzlike project in the past 5 years failed
>server falls apart either after a year of only MC and Onyxia content or due lack of finances

I would rather play on ED with 2.5K people peak than on some soon-to-be-dead vaporware shit. Shit on feenix all you want, but you won't get 12+ 40man guilds compete for dragons every week with 5+ hours skirmishes anywhere else.
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>You will never again be a young warlock exploring Stormwind to find your class' sekrit club
>You will never again know the joy of taming your Voidwalker in under your sekrit club
>You will never again travel trough Gankerthorn Vale, fearing for your life every second, because your asshole master told yout to go to Kalimdor if you wanted a Succubus
>You will never again jump into the ocean before arriving into Ratchet, sneak past the city and wander in the middle of Horde territory to find a blind guy to give you directions, then travel to Darkshore to get your reagant
>You will never again Summon you steed of Fire for the first time and laugh at the other players and their generic mounts.
>You will never again be sent by your masters all around the world to get items so you can get a hat
>You will never again stay alert and looking behind your shoulder at all times in Ratchet while your masters send you to do fetch quests before you summon your felhunter, make awkward mute friendships with horde warlocks, and take turns watching eachother summoning and taming the demon
>You will never again go through the quests to get you Hellsteed and become the envy of the younger warlocks
>You will never again visit Felwood for the first time, feel right at home with the corruption, and enter to become worthy of summoning your own infernal
>You will never again meet Niby and Impsy

I loved my class, it was a constant world tour.
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>>284979231
>Dreadsteed
>lvl 70

i want you babbies to leave and take a long walk off a short cliff
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>>284980257
>Being this stuck in the past and deluded

Jesus christ m8
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>>284981895
It's been a long time since I've played WoW, but I know how onesided it is for a max level character to fight any number of players even one level less than the cap. In pre-BC even raid geared players could be taken down by a handful of lowbies with some luck. Unless it was a tank or healer or something, which most people weren't.
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>>284980257
>only plays LFR like a useless noskillnigger
>b-b-but there is no community.

yes, there is, but you're too much of a shutin autist to look for it.
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>>284982483
>Gankerthorn Vale,

>playing on pvp servers

You asked for it.
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>>284982483
>tfw running a shadow raid on Stormwind by using the path over the Dun Morogh mountains to get out of bounds, under Stormwind, then dropping into the Warlock training area
>tfw using a Warlock to summon an endless stream of reinforcements from an unreachable position
The Alliance were so confused.
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>>284982758

That's what made it so exciting, it was a great adventure and I was a man with a mission.

Man, class quests were the shit, I wonder if other classes had quests as fun as warlock's, I remember making an orc shaman once and having to climb a mountain for a totem, but that was it.
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>>284965170
Could just modify the MPQ files.
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>>284982750
There isn't though.

Wanna know what the WoW community looks like nowadays?

THIS is what the WoW community looks like. It's all just memes and solo quests, and don't get me fucking STARTED on the Garrisons.
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>>284982815
>MMO with no skills and no content
Crap, you must be a genius. Whats next, removing levels too?
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>>284983169

It's not that easy.
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>>284966762
Hold me anon. I don't want to remember when I first clicked that fucking pool.
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>>284982758

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFj6T9lOtM
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>>284983230
the "google it" really tops it off.
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>>284983108
For the water Totem to venture to some obscure location in the Barrens, and then fill up a water skin at Tarren Mill. It was a cool trek but nothing special except for sightseeing.

The air totem quest was to find a person in a cave and jump off a bridge.

Warlocks had the coolest quests by far, followed by druids. The quest for the Aquatic form, where you had to travel to different water sources all around Azeroth was fucking ballin' because you had to go to zones you'd never think about visiting in your level.

Especially for Alliance players because you had to trek to Silverpine and swim around the coast and shit. It was all about nature.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6G33wEb34E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFj6T9lOtM
play both at the same time
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Who Veteran of the Shifting Sands here?
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>>284961517

>You will never again have a two-day long AV battle

This one hurts the most. Most everything else can be recreated in private servers, but the days long struggles in AV are not one of them. I'd give almost anything to have those back.
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>>284983230
>hi
>no one says hi back

Shit, that's depressing.
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>>284961517
wrong. get rid of cookie cutter class systems and slap it in a new big world to explore and you have no experiences

removing classes and adding in skills that increase as you use them + high production values = making your own build

people who complain about balance get banned

mobs drop random loot with a chance of magical properties to enhance the character

players team up with each other to accomplish tasks instead of running the same dungeon 20 times for x item so you can be "the best"

people who want to be the "best" at running one dungeon a hundred times to stand around in the new best gear. it makes no sense

devs just have to make not shitty MMOs again like back before 2003. they do right now and people play them but we get threads about WoW instead because its what soccer moms, halo and madden bros and 9 year olds play so theres millions of them

lots of non wow-like mmos simply pit you against the world, and shit is hard as fuck. no auto attack, no push "arbitrarily named attack that does this % + this number" infinitely combat, you just either have the character attributes to take the incoming blows or avoid them or the actual skill to move out of the way, and team up with enough strangers to have a chance to kill whatever it is youre fighting, and the reward is possible RANDOM loot and adventure, and knowing your desperate band of weak mortals accomplished killing the HEROIC monster. not the other way around. does anyone remember asherons call early days? people would beat on things to get their attention then run and others would snipe them, from high terrain, behind gates, debuff the monster, buff other people, use medical kits, heal, snare them, it was an uphill battle just to kill a level 14 enemy because he was a GIANT and you were actually AFRAID to die. death had a PENALTY

fuck wow players. it was cool when it came out and it did more bad than good
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>>284983560
>you had to go to zones you'd never think about visiting in your level
Like Barrens and Solverpive? That's pretty lvl 12 for a tauren.
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>>284981889

You can't buy gold with real money in WoW, for a start, and don't try to ruse me with "b-but goldsellers", it's absolutely not comparable with a built-in, internal, gold selling system like GW2.

Also gear in WoW, at least vanilla, had a big impact on your progression and your efficacity in raids in general. In GW2 it doesn't mean shit.

Just stop lying. You clearly never played WoW, or if you did, way too late.

Oh and GW2 is shit.
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>>284983898
So, you rewrote your retarded ideas and didn't added proper capitalization nor punctuation?
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I feel like a major portion of my nostalgia for this game came from the fact that i was new to it and the community was good and small.
Learning everything and exploring was part of the fun and after 10 years I've seen and done it all and there's no sense of adventure left.

That's not really the games fault. Dumbing it down for a wider audience was though, and that's what i hate the most about the change to the game.
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>TFW If you equip both Warglaives of Azzinoth in the Well of Eternity dungeon, past Illidan will comment on them, claiming they seem like curious weapon of immense power.
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