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Whats your favorite SMT game /v/?

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Whats your favorite SMT game /v/?
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>>284726854
The one with Chie. Persona 2 I think.
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>>284726854
>>284726854
>2015
>SMT 1 and 2 wil never gets a remake(That shit port for IOS dont count).
>No Nocturne with fully voiced(USA/JAP option to switch) or at least for portables
>No SMT Arena featuring all MC form Megatens
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For me it's Nocturne. Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humour.
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Either SJ or Nocturne.
>>284730154
>wanting Nocturne voiced
No thank you, but I would like a remake where Dante gets pierce, or we get the version with Raidou.
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Best girl.
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>>284726854

Nocturne or SJ
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>>284727456

It's Devil Summoners 2
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>>284730960

But that's not Lilith.
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>>284730960
Too bad her only use in Nocturne is fusion bait to make Uzume
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What are the best versions of SMT 1 and 2?
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>>284730960
>Lawfags

Also DeSuOc or II.
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>>284731763
SNES, they're fine

iOS had a version for 1 but I don't have an apple device to play it and touch screen controlls are annoying anyway
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>>284726854
best girls
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Strange Journey

Literally Doom in RPG form.
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I love the SMT series and all its spin-offs, but I'd like to see if there are other games where they take a fuck-ton of myths and legends and use them in a similar way.

Doesn't have to be dungeon crawler, either.
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Devil Survivor 2, can't wait for Break Record
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Strange Journey because i love Dungeon Crawlers.
I do not comprehend how it got low scores in reviewing sites while Persona 4 got a 9.
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>>284731969
Have they aged well? Or are they a little difficult to get into?
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>>284732508
They were the first SMT games that I played and I thought they were fine, the difficulty is really easy too compared to later games since they still have easy exploits like zio instalock and magic bullets making everything ez mode
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Devil Survivor 1. I don't like dungeon crawlers much, and love edgy main characters.
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>>284732508
The original Megami Tensei and SMT aged badly.
Meanwhile MT2 and SMT2 aged well.
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>>284732425
Can't wait for best girl.
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>>284732481
Who cares about review sites
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>>284732008
Yes!! And best is from this game
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>>284732814
Yeah, I'm excited to use Fumi again
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>>284732481
cause they cant get gud
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>>284730960
Ayy
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>>284731404
Reverse image search only gives the original, it that just some manip from here
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>>284726854
Personal Opinions coming through

Nocturne>II>IV>I
Haven't played SJ, or really many other games besides P3 and 4.
Keep in mind before you attack me that even I, which is the lowest, was fucking awesome, just mechanically the most annoying to me at times.
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>>284733194
Get on it brah, go play DDS or Raidou.
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>>284733035
>Get to fifth kalpa
>Dis and Shikome are flirting with me

L-lewd...
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>>284733301
>mfw can't figure out how to get through the kalpas
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>>284733301
>>284733440
>Giving your Candelbrum to Lucy

Might as well say "Easily Manipulated" on your forehead.
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>>284733440
Where are you stuck, anon-kun?
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Anyone who doesn't choose Devil Survivor is a casual pleb.
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>>284733636
First kalpa
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>>284726854
4 > Devil Survivor > 2 > 1 > SMT spinoffs > Persona 3 > everything else.
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>>284733723
Did you go into it as soon as you unlocked it?
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>>284733291
Yeah I just finished SMT II, so now I think I'll go through DDS 1 and 2 and finish Press Turn games.
So I generally suck at dungeon crawlers but I though SMT 1 and 2 were pretty easy if you just spammed zio skills. If that wasn't in it though I would have thought they were pretty hard. Is SJ pretty hard? Or is it Nocturne levels of manageable in regards to normal jrpgs?
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>>284733783
>4
>not worse than everything but Persona 1 and Persona Q
try again
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>>284733880
Persona 1 is the best Persona game
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>>284733828
No. I'm at the Mantra prison right now. Just went back and started exploring the labyrinth. I'm around level 32 right now.
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>>284733971
you got jokes bro
i like your style
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>>284733880
>implying 4 wasn't pokimanz on hyper-steroids in 3D
Fagget
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>>284734028
I'm not joking though
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Strange Journey
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>>284733981
I wouldn't jump to it 'til you're at least at Ikkeburo tunnel.
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>>284734131
I'm past Ikkeburo though. When I say the Mantra prison, I mean the part where you have to rescue the leader of the mannquins.
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>>284734235
I meant the subway with the 4 oni.
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You fuckers told me Persona 2 was bad
You fuckers were wrong
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>"Strange Journey is better than Nocturne"
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>>284734285
Ah gotcha. Will do.
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>>284734312
That's why you never trust /v/'s opinion on anything
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>people unironically saying meme-games like nocture, raidou, or persona4 are their favorite
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>>284734312
The gameplay is horrendous. People only like it for the story and characters and such.
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This is a chaos thread.
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SMT x FE FUCKING WHEN NINTENDO!?
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>>284734312
who told you P2 was bad? P1 is bad.
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>>284733440
Is this your first rpg?
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>>284734484
Hikaru-chan is so cute.
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Strange Journey and fuck all you Personage casuals who would say otherwise.
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>>284734456
I don't see why you'd say that, it's only marginally more confusing than the typical PUSH BUTAN DO ATTAK rpg. It basically lets you autobattle through the game if you're not retarded.

>>284734517
P1 is great to ya nigger
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>>284734049
It had shittier dungeon designs than pokemon.

Let that sink in.

Also there is literally no reason to use anyone but Trumpeter, Yoshitsune, and maybe one magic user.
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>>284734049
I'm not that guy, but ignoring the faggotry that was your writing, 4 is as much demon pokemon as any other SMT game.
That being said, I liked 4. It was an overall solid experience with a few questionable design decisions.

>>284734312
The only people I've heard say that P2 is bad are people who love Persona 3 and 4
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>>284734049
this post is literally reddit
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>>284734535
No.
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Who /best alignment/ here?
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>>284734484
I fucking hate Chaos just because of how much Tokyo Dreamland sucked, Chaos faggot stealing your demon, and the complete darkness maze on one of the floors to kill Asura pissed me off in SMT1

That was a terrible route
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>>284734517
P1 was okay. P2 has a good story but the worst gameplay, at least IS does. You can auto through almost the entire game and you don't need to fuse.
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>>284734348
People have different opinions, this is why even if Hitler winned the war, he would never have the perfect utopia he dreamed of.
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Best girl
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>>284734569
>muh tribal chants
>muh second boss with mabufudyne so fair
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>>284734559
Was Lucifer too retarded to realize that no one would be dressed in a ditzy school uniform during an apocalypse, or did he want to be mysterious?
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>>284734348
>Gameplay is the most important aspect of any game, except when my favorite games have terrible gameplay, then story's more important.
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>>284734348
>trying to defend the most anti-Christian SMT game (after SMT 2) with the fedora meme

The fucking irony.
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Best demon
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>>284734712
>and the complete darkness maze on one of the floors to kill Asura pissed me off in SMT1
But you kill Asura on the Law route.
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Fuck stats and power, i always go for the perfect harem team.
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>>284734894
>SJ
>Good gameplay
Literally just dumbed down Devil Summoner without rows and with the alignment gimmick
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Best female demon
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>>284734869
Have you seen his other incarnations?
At least with Hikaru he didn't make the name blatantly obvious to english speakers.
No idea if it means something in nipponese

>>284734962
I wish Dante turned into that in Nocturne. That'd be baller
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>>284734843
I can tell you're already trying to force this shit. Let me just post real best girl and you can go.
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>>284735048
Was Devil Summoner good?
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>>284735095
I still like old man Lucifer the most.
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>>284735048
>Doomguy is the best protag, he doesn't need magic!!!! RIP AND TEAR!!!
>What? Who the fuck are Kyouji and Hacker? Get lost you fucking weeb
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I finished SMT1 last night (chaos) and am planning on starting 2 later today. How is it?
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>>284735095
Hikaru means "light'
Lucifer means morning "morning star"
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>>284734743
Just a heads up if english isn't your first language. The past tense of win is won.
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>>284735205
Better than 1 in some aspects
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>>284734632
>this post is literally leddit*
FIFY

I don't visit the site personally, but you should stop advertising faggotry outside of fagcentral
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>>284735004
Anthony pls
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This game's fans have a chip on their shoulder the size of the sun:
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>>284735126
Uh oh, i'm making someone upset.

Wasn't my intention, but it sure as fuck is now, thanks.
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>>284734992
And the neutral

You have to go that way for the chaos route too if you want Bezelbub
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>>284735190
I understand liking Kyouji, but Hacker is shit.
Captcha: udead

>>284735297
T-thanks
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>>284735189
I like Suave Lucy, followed by Louisa
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Soul Hackers.

Best of classic megaten gameplay, best negotiation dialogues, best girls.
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The objective best girl.
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I know /v/ hates this shit, but I wish today's SMT games had the demon pop culture references.
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>>284735189
Old man Lucy has the hottest assistant.

>>284735279
Yeah I knew Lucifer meant Morning Star, just had no idea what Hikaru meant.
Fun fact about the name Lucifer is that it wasn't ever ascribed to the fallen angel as a name until centuries after the bible was first compiled. The very first reference to the word Lucifer is as an adjective to describe a Babylonian king
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>>284735351
pretty much the entire SMT fanbase
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>>284735165
It's rough around the edges design-wise, but I think it's got one of my favorite scenarios and settings, despite me only knowing the gist of the story. It's also got those sweet 1996 Devil Summoner designs. Nicely unified art style which we'll never see another SMT game with that much art style effort in it.

>>284735403
>Hacker is shit.
What the fuck m8
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I really liked Soul Hackers.
Apparently this is a fairly unpopular opinion, no idea why.
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>>284731669
She can be a real lifesaver against those stupid chatterskulls that hang around ginza and the ginza underpass

hama isn't effected by the sukunda they spam and it avoids you accidently only doing 90% of their health and having MC get blown the fuck up by last resort

That's one of the things I really like about nocturne, while it doesn't have the 1000 demons of the other mainline games none of the demons feel like they're useless or generic fodder
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Say what you want about SMTIV but I think it has the best overall soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P_YdPQ2BHw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dClKPzjyHns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50MTGAvcngM
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>>284735492
>best negotiation dialogue
HAAH WAAW
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>>284735539
Is this a reference?
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>>284735569
Anybody who denies IV's soundtrack is god-tier is a gay of a highest degree.
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>>284726854
This is the objective best overall SMT game
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>>284735584
It's got some of the best options though. It's also the easiest to game, just pump INT and LUK and you can get demons blindfolded.

>>284735632
>filename
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>>284735539
>this hardass motherfucker will never come back to save us from the filthy chaosFAGS ever again
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>>284735569
>Say what you want about SMTIV but I think it has the best overall soundtrack
It is also the best game in the series, unequivocally
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>>284735556
>Kumbhanda

Triggered.
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>>284735563
I had the best Atmosphere to me, followed by maybe 1.
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>people complaining about the PS2 models being "outdated" and "overused"
I'm fairly convinced they're only going to slap on new textures in P5 to match the artstyle
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>>284735451
>louis cypher
>lucifer

god damnit why didn't I ever see this
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>>284735632
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>>284734590
Peopel don't say persona 2 has bad gameplay because it's confusing or too hard

it's because it's NOT hard, just that because of the high random encounter rates, high health but low damage enemies and lengthy loading times everything takes forever
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>>284735539
I don't think people on this site would hate something like that since it's demon's just referencing famous demons and their portrayal.

>>284735632
Never seen Beetlejuice?
There's also Christine the car.
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>>284735740
Nah, the PS2 models are hardly timeless.
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>>284735665
Lots of futas too.
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>>284735665
Playing Nocturne right now and I really want to play this too... Dunno if I should play both simultaniously or tank through Nocturne so I can play this one
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>>284735725
>1
Agreed, I really like how atmospheric they both are.
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Why didn't you pick the best girl, /v/?

Is it because you hate strong, sweaty, athletic thighs?
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>>284735698
It was my first one so I have to agree.

I also thought it was more difficult than 1 as far as fights.
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>>284735584

There's even hidden mini-games whitin the dialogues themselves.
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>>284735818
And the killer plant from Little Shop of Horrors
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>>284735924
the two games are basically completely different, you could probably get away with alternating between them without feeling like it's repetitive
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>>284735767
>>284735818
Oh, sorry, in my country Beetlejuice name is Besourosuco, portuguese for Beetlejuice
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>>284735698
I really liked the game, and I have defended it a lot, but that's just wrong. The best game in the series can't be one with as many poor design decisions and glaring flaws that IV has.
I was able to have fun despite the decisions, whereas for a lot of SMT games, I was able to have fun because of it's decisions

Smirking, lack of vit, and only having 2 or so memorable dungeons in the game really hurt it's overall enjoyment.
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>>284735990
Considering I, and II to a smaller extent, are incredibly broken with nerve bullets that's not too much of an a ccomplishment
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>>284735948
>>284735725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqegwcUpU8U
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>>284736029
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>>284735890
And mostly goddamn gay porn.

Fuck, why was I born so artistically autistic.
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How do you make demon negotations better /v/? Because as it stands it sucks ass in Nocturne and IV.
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>>284735924
Finish Nocturne first. If you start DDS you won't stop until they're both done and won't be playing Nocturne in the meantime.
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>>284735362
>you will never get to massage and squeeze Elizabeth's butt cheeks.
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>>284735990
1 is the easiest game in the entire series in general
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>>284736121
more like SJ like the rest of the game should be
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>>284736067
Well, then I can see where your confusion lies.
Honestly thanks to that movie I thought that was the proper spelling of the word for the longest time.
Only much later did I find out that the star system, and the demon were named Betelgeuse.
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>>284735004
>tfw I had to evolve Angel into this ugly motherfucker
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>>284736121
Make it more like Devil Summoner 1
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>>284735563
Really? I've heard the opposite. I enjoyed it as well and most people that have played it said the same thing. I still don't understand the best way to distribute levels.
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>>284735691
Pretty sure this guy hasn't even been in an SMT game.
IIRC that's from Maken X
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>>284736264
That's a paddlin'.
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>>284734675
Aren't all Whitefags dead?
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>>284736121
I want more stuff like Soul Recruit. I'd love to see the demons from the same mythology/religion having special dialogue. Maybe even shit like those combos in Persona 3
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>>284736329
He's from SMT2.
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Strange Journey.
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>>284736121
Nocturne negotiations are only bad if you only use the basic talk command

they get a lot more interesting as you work in the demon talk skills, it's actually one of my favorites in the series

best in the series is raidou 2, which has a combination of classic SMT negotations with nocturne conversation skills, more games like that please

>>284736220
making it like SJ is the absolute last thing that should happen, fuck RNG demon responses forever and all time, in nocturne the questions each demon asks you always have the same answer and you have skills like detain that let you avoid them running with your money while in SJ you can literally savestate before picking something and get wildly different responses each time
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>>284736329
He's from SMT2.
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Terminator
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SJ
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>>284736424
Then get good you casual faggot, you probably quit at Eridanus like a bitch
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How is good/bad is maken x?
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>>284731372
Tell me about Mastema. Why does he wear the mask?
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>>284736523
That lame nigga probably gave up at Bootes

BOOTES
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>>284735563
Soul Hackers just got overhyped before launch so it fell flat for some people who had higher expectations. SH fans are infinitely more tolerable than the Strange Circlejerk at least.
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>>284736574
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>>284736548
Pretty bad.
But pretty good.
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>>284734675
The White were so damn right. Easily the most satisfying and conclusive ending in SMTIV. God the Law, Chaos, and Neutral ends were shitty.
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>>284731763
I, II and If... best version is PS1 at least for the minor improvements from the original. They aren't translated so your only good option for I and II is SNES version.
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>>284736523
>get good
>at something that is completely luck based

=^)

>>284736548
It's basically killer7 but with awkward melee combat instead of awkward gunplay

It's a really interesting game, and the ways it's both super linear yet quite open ended are cool but it's also sort of a janky piece of shit, and the dub has really bad voice acting (with the single exception of the MC) and some censorship/translation issues

dreamcast is the only version worth playing though, makken shao doesn't add anything

>>284736648
this is a better way of putting it, frankly
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>>284736612
To be fair, Bootes was the worst sector
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>>284735691

HOLY FUCK

IM JUST FUCKING LURKING THIS THREAD WHILE I PLAY P3FES, GONNA GET ON THE REST OF THE SERIES ONCE I FINISH


HOLY SHIT THATS FUCKING RAD AS SHIT
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>>284736712
I actually really liked the Neutral end though. Even if the leadup kinda sucked.
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>>284736806
SMT2 is a pretty awesome game

it's the only game in the series with that kind of design thugh
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>>284736795
I thought Delphinus was the worst. It was a sewer level with conveyor belt puzzles.
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>>284736806
enjoy, you have plenty of SMT ahead and behind of you
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>>284736712
>mfw the law ending is basically just the shitty white ending.

I was so pissed. Especially since I wanted to go chaos but by the time I changed my mind I was too far from it. I even went with Walter and fought Yamato but that wasn't enough. Doing a second play through on master going for neutral this time.
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He did nothing wrong.
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>>284736962
The only reason that isn't total shit is yosuga
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>>284736829
Nothing can top how shitty and generic Nocturne's endings are. SJ Law and Chaos were also pretty shit, they had all the negatives and no positives of their respective alignment.
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>>284736147
Thats what I'm afraid of too. Nocturne is fun but it's such a chore to play sometimes. I'm in that upside down prison right now and it annoys me so much
however I feel like if I just push myself to finish it I'd enjoy it less than I should, and in case DDS isn't as good as I want it to be I might get super disappointed
>>284736062
I think I'll download it now and check it out for an hour or two, then decide what I want to do next
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Raidou 2
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>>284736829
I probably wouldn't have minded the Neutral end as much if not for the sheer fucking tedium of actually doing all the boring fucking quests to get it. It was just way too much effort for what I thought was a mediocre payoff especially after it's already confirmed multiple times that the cycles will always continue.

>>284736958
Yeah, that was legitimately shitty man. I'm not really even much of a Law person myself (Law is only my favorite end in SMT II), but they got supremely shafted in SMT IV and not only looked like the shittiest faction but also got the shittiest end.
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>>284736962
When I see he did nothing wrong anymore all I can think of anymore is shitty micchy who did nothing right
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>>284736962
Now this is escapism.
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>>284736962
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>>284737137
IV's Law ending was relatively good compared to how awful they usually get, SJ Law is worse in every way, I Law is kind of shit considering how God is directly responsible for so much bad shit in that game, and I never understood why people like II Law, Chaos is an outright heroic good faction compared to them in II
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>>284735691
That guy and Minotaur are always guaranteed replies
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>>284736548
Its combat and control system is similar to Metroid Prime's. The game is really cool though with branching paths and multiple endings. Oh, and you get to take over certain enemies bodies and they all have different abilities.
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>>284737137
>>284737060
Honestly for me the only time I finished a game int he series and thought "Wow, that was really cool and satisfying" was the Law end of SMT2

Also I think a big problem with 4 was that Kaneko wrote the original draft for the plot years ago, then a team of writers descended upon it and made it more whole to go with the gameplay.

That being said Gameplay>Story
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>>284734675
Yeah, being neutral is pretty great
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>>284731372
This is the only acceptable answer.
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>>284737346
I love this guy too, shame that he's NG+ only so plenty of players never even found him.
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>>284737316
I just liked that in II people were free to live in harmony for thousands of years of peace without being subjected to any sort of brainwashing and without any angelic interference from that point on. Of course Aleph then proceeds to get fucked for the rest of eternity, but yeah.
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>>284736548
Oh yeah, and play the Japanese Dreamcast version if you can. The swastika enemies and Pope boss are censored in all other versions.
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>>284736548
Man, I'm still hoping some of its designs end up in the SMT/Persona series for at least a cameo or two. Some of Kazuma Kaneko's best work deserves to be re-used.
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>>284737346
Minotaur had an amazing design, its really a shame about everything else.
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>>284737060
In SJ, I pretty much knew what to expect from Law when I saw the marines getting brainwashed. I went chaos and felt like I was tricked when Juminez brought the parasite things in. That's not free dumb.

SMT2 had the best endings.
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>>284737495
yeah, he's the second design that gets mentioned whenever people ask for good design from SMTIV. The only two redeeming designs
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>>284737346
I had no fucking trouble with Minotaur, I was so incredibly disappointed.
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>>284737536
Why won't kaneko come back ;-;
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>>284737623
Because he's old and wants to retire
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>>284737495
I never did NG+ because upon learning my Dex/Agi/Luck build is shit I lost the will to play a second time. Magic was so fucking OP.
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>>284737623
The flower fields have taken him. Kaneko has ascended to the phallic dimension.
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>>284737536
That is so fucking cool
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>>284726854
Soul Hackers or SMTIV

I like the ones on handheld a lot more than the console ones, don't have the patience for SMT on console in any way shape or form
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>>284737623
He said he wanted to leave at the end of the Nocturne documentary anon, let him be with the flowers. If he wants to come back, he'll come back.

We know he's still at Atlus at least
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>>284737346

Why isn't there an SMT WAD for Doom?
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>>284737623
Here's hoping he's working on a brilliant game project we just don't know about yet.
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>>284737536
>Nazi with a machinegun on its torso.
Now we know what happened to Stroheim after WWII
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TOP NIGGA COMIN THROUGH
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>>284737701
What are you on about mate? Desperate Hit shits all over everything.
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>>284737701
my second playthrough I literally leveled nothing but magic and steamrolled everyone
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>>284737667
>>284737709
>>284737731
rip you beautiful man you
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>>284737701
>DEX build
>Shit
Nigger what, I was wrecking everything with that set up.
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>>284737623
He's working in Raidou 3, believe in Kaneko.
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>>284737834
>a Strange Journalist was made enough to draw this
haha you guys got bullied by Nocturne fans for so long your insecurity is enormous
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>>284736264
He looks pretty ballin tho
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>>284737701
But that build is plenty fine.
The moment you get Luster Candy/Debilitate/Mediaharan on any demon, combined with any of the MP recover apps, means you literally can't die anyway, and shit like Grand Tack will always be powerful enough.
The game isn't hard and it doesn't have a boss like Lucy in Nocturne where you NEED pierce to be effective.

>>284737606
Yeah honestly he's great. I didn't hate all of the designs, but Astaroth and the Minotaur are the only two I actively liked really
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>>284737934
tis merely in jest
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>>284737934
My favorite SMT is SMT I, though. I don't give a shit about all the infighting.
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>>284735403
I personally think Makai Cstle is much worse
>Dark areas
>traps
>damage tiles
>Pit falls
>biggest dungeon in almost all the games
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>>284738056
When will the White finally claim /smtg/?
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>>284738167
Fuse the guy in your picture. He's god tier.
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>>284736264
That armor design is actually pretty fucking good.
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I've tried several of these games, and they are just not my cup of tea. Can't get into them at all.

But goddamn, that art.

>>284737536
>>284737495
>>284737346
>>284736612
>>284735523
>>284733035


These designs are killer.
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>>284738114
I can only hope it will be soon, brother. The general needs to die so we can finally have peace.
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>>284735740
Ignoring that you're fighting against demons, not just summoning them against pringles men and da vinci tanks.
Not souping up the models would be stupid if they have that much focus.

I hope they include a 3D gallery of Demon designs.
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>>284736962
This motherfucker right here is adachi
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One of the best things about strange journey is the neutral ending. Its one of the best endings to an smt game period.
Also did anyone beat the Lucifer boss in devil survivor 1? That fucker owns me every god damn time.
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>>284735539
In soul hackers has Jhon romero and Demon transformer
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>>284738210
I know, I've heard the legends
why though? Because of meditation? Isn't it just Life Drain?

Pic related has it too, fucking great party member
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>tfw your favorite demon is only good in Imagine
It's not saying a lot because as long as the demon scales well and have damage/healing and utility (Cooldown, cast time, etc) traits they can be good for endgame
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>>284736612
My waifu
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>>284736962
Oops wrong pic
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>>284738372
All the PS2 SMTs and the 2D games let you look at the models/sprites, I don't imagine P5 will be any different.
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>>284738501
>sexy gaze

I love when this shit happens.
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>>284738501
Meditation is an almighty skill that saps both life and magic. So he will literally never run out of MP.
Combine that with the fact that he gets Prayer and Preach means you can cause status ailments and heal your party fully and heal all status ailments forever as long as you keep getting MP back with Meditation.
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>>284738114
/pg/ as well
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>>284738704
Life drain drains both life and magic too
but in combination with what you describe, yeah that sounds OP as fuck
Though I have to fuse him properly for him to become OP, right?
>>284738651
>implying you wouldn't
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>>284732713
I also love DeSU:OC, but more so because the character is "edgy", but because your choices actually define the personality your character takes on. You can be edgy, you can be saintly, you can be rational/nationalist, you can be a traditionalist/puritan, and you can even be an idiotic coward depending on the path you choose.

Though, personally, I also prefer the "edgy" version, specifically, the pro-human edgy guy. Though, preferably, a combination of Atsuro's and Cain's ending would be my preferred
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>>284738552
I'd Chiaki
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>>284737905
I wouldn't be shocked if he's working behind the scenes on P5 to ensure the demons are all modeled accurately, especially since Hashino pointed out making all the new Persona models in HD is a grueling process for them
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>>284737536
wish these guys weren't censored in the US version ;_;
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Strange Journey
>>
PS2 SMT game rating list
Nocturne>Digital Devil Saga (1+2)>Raidou
All are the best PS2 games released
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>>284738984
If you fuse him properly he can become better than he already is, but he learns Meditation, Preach, and Prayer all on his own.
I took mine to endgame with just those skills and Rakunda and Sukunda and Tarunda to make him a debuff machine that would full heal my party when needed and deal out status effects in random encounters.
So no, you really don't.
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>>284739078
Nichijo is amazing.
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>>284735981
I picked her

I'm upset see was neither porkable nor plot relevent. her SL was complete trash.
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>>284738530
>tfw your favorite demon was not in IV

Fucking bullshit. They used the shitty Thor design too.
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>>284731763
>tfw adde was right
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>>284739107
Whoa hey there Thanatos
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>>284738984
Literally all you need to do is make sure he has some healing spells and you're good to go

prayer + his resistances + heal spells means you can literally keep him for like 80% of the game without feeling like he's dead weight
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>>284736712
>The long and painful Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey ends here
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>>284739321
This.
I know they ditched a lot of the Nocturne designs mostly because they were simple for the 3d leap and pretty overused, but that's what made them nice. They were simple and stylistic. Thor being the best example

Also they seemed to have forgotten the whole "handsome man" part of Oberon. Just why?
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>>284739321
>Wanting the cheetahmen in
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>>284726854
Nocturne.
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>>284739321
He's wearing a diaper
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>>284739782
So she wanted to fuck demifiend, right?
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>>284739767
Say that to my face, m8.
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If I didn't like Soul Hackers very much, would I like this?
Everything I've seen and read about it is fascinating.
Played Nocturne, SJ, SH and SMTIV so far.
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>>284739737
Still pissed they reverted to her shitty generic design in IV.
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>>284739935
Did you like the other ones beside SH?
Probably.
But play 1 first.
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I love SMT threads on /v/ very rarely will there be shitposting. I am amazed how good SMT I and SMT II ost is for a Snes game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjKrUc_EalM
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>>284739935
Probably not
If you liked Strange Journey possibly.
But if you hated SH and SJ then just forget it.
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>>284739261
>>284739352
Wrong show, It's Nichibro's
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>>284739935
What didn't you like about SH? I was thinking about picking it up for my 2DS.
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>>284739931
this "thing" still baffles me
what is that supposed to be ?
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Anybody here hoping for a game in the series where you can interact and even socialize further with the demons?
I wanna Social Link a Lilim if you know what I mean...
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>>284740139
Yeah SMT in general has some phenomenal music. 1-4 all have fantastic music.
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>>284740276
>The 64th spirit of the Goetia. He is a great duke and appears at first as a mighty terrible and strong leopard but at the command of his summoner he assumes the shape of a man with fiery eyes and a terrible countenance. He can see the past and future, but unless he is commanded into a triangle he will lie in all those things. He will gladly talk of divinity and of the creation of the world, and of his and other spirits' falls from grace. He can control fire and burn all of his and his summoner's adversaries to death and will not suffer them to be tempted by any spirit or otherwise. He governs 36 legions of spirits.

I fucking love his redesign. It's a shame that he wasn't in IV though they'd probably would give him his cheetah diaper one.
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>>284740375
I hope personas give you side quests and shit like that in P5. You have no idea how happy I am now that demon designs are back.
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>>284739935
2 is the only mainline connected to another game, play 1 first
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>>284740139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l2MV41TQ1Y
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>>284737701
Just wrong. It's worse in the first dungeon, then it becomes good.
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>>284740395
I assume you mean sj too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmJDhpZltbs
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Persona 3 FES
Come at me
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>>284740836
>Meguro
back to persona kid
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>>284740836
yes, although SJ is personally my least favorite out of mainline music.
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>>284740857
But this is acceptable.

If you said Persona 4 however...
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>>284740914
But he did Nocturne as well.
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>>284740375
Have you played any Devil Summoner?
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>>284740914
Meguro and Hashino have been with Atlus since SMT If... with Soejima joining shortly afterwards to work on P1
Stay mad
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>>284740857
>>284740986
>not enjoying both for what they are
come on, you already got over the smt vs persona stigma...
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>>284740986
I'm one of those people who would flip out if someone said P4 had better story than 3
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>>284740529
Why do Flauros and Ose have the exact same design, it isn't even a recolor like Tam Lin and Cu Cullain, literally the exact same design
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>>284739931
Too bad he's such a terrible demon in all the games he's in. Literal fusion fodder
>>
These games are so good.
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>>284740986
To a Persona 3 fan perhaps.
I wouldn't rank any of the Personas as my favorite in the series, but P4 was a much better experience than P3, which kind of felt like "what if Nomura made a Megami Tensei" at times. P4 might not be as "dark", but it's also not as childish. That said, good game.
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>>284740857
I think you'll find that most SMT fans have no problem with people like Persona.
I just personally couldn't stand most of P4, but I won't hold it against someone for liking it. I just liked P3 a lot more than P4.

I felt 4 did everything 3 did, just worse in terms of story, atmosphere, and all those aesthetic type things.
SMT as a whole is still better than either though for me.
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>>284741195
I don't have a stigma. Persona 3 just still pretended it was at least part of the MT series.
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Are we allowed to talk about Persona 5 here?
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>>284741234
He's not anymore though.
>>284741242
He's average. I admit though, he's only good if you're low-level.
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>>284741465
>No SMT5
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>>284741605
>expecting another mainline game that fast
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>>284741242
>Flauros
>Terrible in every game
He's alright in Imagine, but he's also a glass cannon. You can definitely fuse better physical demons than him though.
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>>284741605
>Atlus will be long dead in 10 years
SMT is kill mate
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>>284741605
It'll be another shitty handheld game.
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>>284741605
>Out now on iOS and Android devices...
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>>284741605
>game sells like shit
>WAAAAHH GIVE ME ANOTHER ONE NOW! ME ME ME
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>>284741831
I see more atlus lives but every company they get handed/sold to goes under
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>>284741465
I hope it's good and not at all like Persona 4 in terms of tone.
That will tide me over until a new SMT game comes out.
I wonder if they'll try some more spinoffs.
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>>284738552
>somebody used an image I made four months ago
This is the first time that has happened and I am so happy
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>>284741682
>Expecting another Persona game that fas-

Oh wait!
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>>284741942
>make bad games
>get mad when they sell poorly

>>284742074
persona 4 came out seven years ago
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>>284741942
>Selling like shit
>Sold more than Nocturne

>>284742074
Persona 4 came out in 2009. On PS2.
A whole generation has passed since it came out.
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>>284741942
Hey, I didn't opt for the game to be made for the 3DS.
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>>284742074
P4 is over 6 years old
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>>284742074
In the time since Persona 4, we got two mainline SMTs.
That was 7 years ago.
Wait your turn.

I hate Persona but fully intend on playing P5.
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>>284741942
>Selling like shit
>Best selling smt
What?
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anyone played if? is it translated at all? the art for that game looks tip top
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>>284742195
The world design and 400 demons would NEVER happen on consoles.

EVER.
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>>284742195
Being on the 3DS is probably what helped it be the best selling mainline game.
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>>284742173
nocturne sold bad at release but with all the re-releases and cult hype thats built up over the years it's sold more than SMT4
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>tfw Atlus did fuck all with the PS3
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>>284742407
>no HD collection with Nocturne and DDS

They fucked up.
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>>284742219
I never understood this 'SMT is dead now meme'. Since P4 came out, we got two new mainline games, two DeSu games and expanded rereleases, the first English release of SH, SMT x FE could still be alive, and we know the Maniax Team is working on a new game. That's not even counting all the ports
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>>284742124
>>284742173
>>284742208
>>284742219
Shit, I didn't pay attention and realize it's been that long. Even still, the SMT series has some shaky-ass release time frames.

We'll be lucky to get an SMT5 within a decade.
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>>284742407
P5 is a guaranteed success so hopefully they make a new spinoff with the Catherine engine. A new Devil Summoner would be neat but it'd take anything that isn't P4 again
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>>284742393
unless you have concrete numbers I doubt it. IV and Nocturne both got to about 250k in Japan a month after launch and slowed down. Nocturne did 60k in 5 years in the US, whereas IV did 100k in 5 months. Only counting physical copies for all numbers
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>>284742393
Where's your source?
And by that logic you're comparing years of sales and re-releases with a game that is current and has not been re-released whatsoever.
Nocturne had two launches, the first of which was pretty awful because the game was pretty rough. The maniax version added a lot to the game.
SMT IV has sold a little over half a million last I checked, which was about 200,000 more units than Nocturne had sold at that point.

>>284742685
I don't understand the negativity either. Atlus has been pretty damn busy in the past 5 years. People act like they had some golden age during the PS2 and then stopped all production.
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>>284742758
Don't worry, after P5 we'll get Persona 5 Golden:FES.
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>>284742849
Didn't IV not get released physically in Europe for a long ass time?
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>>284742407
That's probably because the Cell processor was a complicated mess and fatlus is lazy
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>>284742685
Sequels have come out so fast lately, that people have forgotten what it is like to starve and hunger for more. Also new people are retarded.
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>>284742956
IV never even got released physically in Europe, it just got released on the eShop last October.
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So how terribly has Ratio aged?
I think the concept sounds great and the screenshots I've seen look really stylish, but I've also heard that the first game is a chore to play and only really starts taking off in the second game
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>>284742956
It didn't get released PERIOD in yurop for well over a year.
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Quick! you can choose any Kaneko design to be fully modeled in P5 as a NG+ boss, regardless of how old or obscure it is. What do you choose?

Hard mode: No Mara, she's token.
MANIAC MODE: No Frost Jack variants
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>>284743043
>>284743007
Well that's one reason for sale numbers being low I'd wager
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>>284743015
The first has awful combat but you can try it out on emulator before committing, the second improved on it a bunch and the story isn't connected really so you can skip 1
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>>284743015
First is playable, gameplay isn't mindblowing but it isn't bad. Just a little stale.
But aesthetically it's great and the story is cool. And then 2 kinda flips around on that, making gameplay better and story worse.
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>>284742921
>People act like they had some golden age during the PS2 and then stopped all production.
Is it that hard to figure out? They've moved production mostly to handhelds, as opposed to consoles which is what most people wanted.

I do understand that handhelds are far cheaper to develop for though, like the PS2 etc.
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>>284743126
IV's sales numbers are far from low, it's one of the best-selling SMTs worldwide and the best-selling non-Persona SMT in America by far.
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>>284743096
Bodyconian from SMT 1.
Better be complete with dancing.
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>>284743096
BEEZLEBUB
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rate my SMT waifu
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>>284743180
>SMTV becomes a Vita exclusive
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>>284743015
The atmosphere is great, characters are great, story is great, music is great but the combat is complete ass. It's not unplayable but it's a bit tedious. Second game's story is a bit retarded but the gameplay is much better. Worth a try if you liked other megaten games.
Narumi a best
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>>284743096
I wouldn't mind having to fight Demi-Fiend with Dante and Pixie as a secret boss.
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>>284743417
More like smt iv remix
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>>284743180
The way I see it, so far the only HD game they've made is Catherine. And that was after years of the PS3 being out.
They've just been afraid to tackle HD. They're a relatively small studio that wants to keep dev costs down and so they're trying to avoid going the Ubisoft route of inflating dev costs sky high by avoiding HD until they're ready. I think after P5 they'll be more acclimated to the dev environment and be able to put more things on consoles again.
I personally don't care since their games have been quality the entire time
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>>284743417
Silly anon, the Vita only gets Persona table scraps.

>SMT5 is N3DS exclusive
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>>284743096
chernobog
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>>284743180
Atlus has never been big, their only HD game had a much smaller scale compared to their RPGs. Even with all the demons being made in P5 and it taking place in Tokyo so that could have reusable assets, I'm a bit wary of there being a flood of HD SMT games unless P5 sells millions of copies and that gets more people interested in other SMT games to the point where you'd get, say, Raidou 3 doing 500k+ worldwide
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>>284743558
No one would ever be stupid enough to make a game N3DS exclusive. That's just asking for shit sales.
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>>284743096
Moh Shuvuu NG+ boss
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Just started up DDS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHJbE_kfybs
>that music
took me by suprise. Is this another localization thing? Pretty good
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>>284743694
>literally describing PQ
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In the Diet Building, is the solution to the Mot statue puzzle in the same room or am I wasting my time tagging random statues?
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>>284743096
A big ol giant yellow head would be amazing.

I'm holding out for SMTxFE for HD protag designs though. I live for the day I can see Aleph's HD model ripped.
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>>284743808
Yes, the Japanese opening music is Pray.
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>>284743808
I think DDS is Meguro's strongest work

>>284743853
Persona Q wasn't exclusive to a platform a small minority of people owned.
That's not at all what he is describing.
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>>284743808
The DDS soundtrack is probably the best of the series, fuhrealdoh.
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>>284743808
Yeah the Japanese version used something that didn't fit the video at all.
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>>284735523
she has very mannish feet.
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>>284736962
that outfit says otherwise
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>>284732029
There's smite.

No, it's not good.
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>>284743887
I just tried each statue in order until I got the right one. iirc it's the same one everytime.
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how do you guys actually beat these games? ive started like 3 of them, i play for 40 hours and then forget i own them
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>>284743472
He's already a secret boss. A really fucking hard one at that.
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>>284744048
Kaneko's weakness is feet
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>>284741390
>every title in the franchise needs to be the same shit
This is why I look forward to new Atlus IPs more.
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>>284744167
...by playing them?
Are you saying you don't like them, or do you just suck at finishing games?
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>>284744010
Nocturne might not have the best soundtrack, but that riff that plays right when a boss fight starts always makes me hype as fuck.
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>>284744167
I usually binge on them until I either drop dead or see the end credits.

The only Fatlus game I haven't been able to finish is EO3 which I started a year ago.
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>>284744290
Sometimes they drag on and on.
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>>284743853
You are a dipshit.
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>>284744348
Personally SMT is right up there with Metroid for two game series that have consistently great soundtracks. I struggle to think of a game in either series that I don't like soundtrack wise.
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>>284743180
>most people
Not most of the market that Atlus cares about.
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>>284744348
>riff that plays right when a boss fight starts
http://youtu.be/MVagm39bnTQ

Fucking loved the Dante battle theme.
http://youtu.be/SMX09FSyHqs
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>>284726854
>tfw no Raidou 3
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>>284744439
They're only like 50 hours long on average. And I guess longer jrpgs aren't your thing. The only SMT or spinoff game I played that I felt dragged was Persona 4 and it's shitty 5 hour opening.
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>>284744676
Oh and the Amara network one.
http://youtu.be/lqyUlXkjldQ
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>>284744439
If you're 40 hours in then you're almost done pretty much all of them, just stick to one rpg at a time if you feel that way
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>>284744791
>Amara
Herro Japan
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Please rate, mates.
No hate.

This is mai demonfu~
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>>284743357
Good tastes mate.

Absolutely god-tier demon is DeSu.
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>>284743993
I don't think this intro song is by meguro

But yeah, I've listened to the boss battle theme beforehand (big boss battle or sth) and it's fantastic

oh god I'm in the base now, that music already gives me chills
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>>284743930
So wait, s it confirmed SMTxFE will bring all mainline protags?
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>>284745259
1-4 and If, no SJ
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>>284736962
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>>284745259
The game itself still has no release day nor anything at all about it, nothing is confirmed about it
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>>284745125
>mfw hecate in DeSu

Being a part of the Tyrant family already makes you god tier because of tyrant loop. But Having the earliest instance of anti-most was great. Being magic focused so you could give her dances was the cherry on top
>>284745259
If the trailer is anything to go by it's going to be all mainline protags+If and their respective alignment reps. No space marrheen, Jimenez or zelenin though.
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>seeing Tiamat in SJ
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>>284737736
Because no one wants to make a bunch of original graphics for demons.
The DECORATE code for making weapons/enemies is pretty easy, graphics are the hard part.
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>catgirl demon
>not your waifu
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>Leaving so soon?

http://youtu.be/qeQnnPAT0EI
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>>284745632
fucking damnit
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>>284743096
Lovecraft gods aren't strangers to the Persona series.
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>>284745620
Personally, I liked pic related more
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>>284745620
>go to the club
>slap Nekomata on the ass
>she asks to do something naughty with her
>can't recruit her

I was so sad
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>>284745483
Does this mean you can finally waifu Chiaki-chan?
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>>284745852
I'm more partial to the If protag.
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>>284745991
She already got married in Persona 2
To a mary-sue
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>>284737495
Shame I have 200 hours on SMT IV .
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>>284745483
By reps you mean even Nocturne's reason reps? Or will they just asspull something and make Lucifer the only chaos rep and so on?

>No space marrheen, Jimenez or zelenin though.

Goddamn, will we at least get Gore/Arthur, Bugaboo or Mastema?
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>>284746160
Well the trailer was years ago and was only made of pre-existing art.
Just go look it up yourself on youtube if you're interested, but I'm sure plenty can change provided we ever see anything about it again.
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>>284745831
I bet her vagina smells like wet rocks and moss
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>>284746160
No SJ in general.

Though I can see Our Greatest Ally being a recruitable demon.

Actually, the trailer shows only Flynn and Isabeau, Demifiend and Chiaki, the two If protags I think, Aleph and some blonde chick, and the SMTI protag with some brunette.
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>>284746158
Why is that a shame?
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People still have hope for SMTxFE?
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>>284746780
I've more or less given up any practical hope.
At this point I'd be surprised, but ultimately pleased. Yet if they came out and said "JK it's cancelled" I'd say "this is what I expected"
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>ctrl+f GOD REJECTED
>zero results
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>>284735747
Took me until way past the part where the deformed fucks called Louis Cypher beelzebub in Raidou 2 to figure it out.
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>>284746964
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
there are you happy Matador?
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SJ is going to be in SMTxFE whenever it comes out, it just wasn't in the trailer. It wouldn't make sense to leave Space Marine out when the other mainline games get characters
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>>284747064
I'll let you pass without buffs
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>>284746780
If we lost hope that something good might happen, we'd be like White.

Do you want to be White anon? Do you?
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>>284747086
It doesn't make sense to release a trailer when all you have is concept art decades old. But there you go.
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>>284746964
WE'LLSACRIFICETHESONOFHEAVEN
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>>284746780
It's vaporware. I'm sorry, but this is the truth.
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>>284746780
I never cared, crossovers are always shit.
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>>284747234
That was when the Wii U was in a drought and Nintendo was desperate to show ANYTHING in development to prove they weren't dead.
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>>284747532
I don't know what to expect, SMTfags will complain about FEfags shitting on their fanbase and vice-versa. To make matters worse, doesn't FE have their own Persona with Awakening?
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>>284747759
You're taking things a bit too seriously between fanbases. At worst the game is irredemable shit and we get HD models for Mainline stuff. At beast it's 10/10 GOTY and both franchises grow in popularity.

FE fanbase outside of 4chan has never really been that good. No one likes to admit it though. Reminder that MK404 is a respected member in the fanbase and that GhebFE is a thing
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>>284746780
I give it another year before I lose all hope
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Am I near the end of SMT IV? I just beated Tenkai and I want to start doing the rest of the side quest.
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>>284748202
You're like halfway.
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>>284747987
I don't like a lot of fanbases off 4chan, it's very common for them to be people who's best experience with the game is a youtube play-through.
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>>284747759
As a huge fan of both series' I'd like it to come to fruition. Both series have their respective idiots and typical "I've only played Persona 4/Awakening, and it's the best!"

But the normal fans will probably be okay, provided it's actually good.
And considering it's Atlus it's not like they have a bad track record in the gameplay department.

>>284747987
I wouldn't say MK404 is really respected. A better example is the entire "development process" of The Last Promise", and Blazer's edgy take on the entire storyline.
But yeah they aren't great, and it's really only here than you can mention FE4 or 5 and have people even realize that you can play those games.
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>>284748202
like 55% done
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>>284748202
Save side-quests for when you go for the Neutral ending.
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