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Is Monster Hunter the apex of gear progression games?

>Getting into "dungeons" is pretty streamlined and easy
>Progression feels silky smooth
>Drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded
>Combat is good

I just got MH4U and it feels like what every Korean MMO tries to be but inevitably fails due to cash shops and bad design decisions. It's like the final form of PSO
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>no pvp
It's shit
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>>284556614
Did great Jaggi kill your dog or something?
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I've never played a MH game

But they really, really, really look like tedious boring 'gear drop' games that take 'grinding simulator' to a new level
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>>284556614
If you want pvp play Street Fighter or any variety of games designed for it

You can't put pvp and permanent stat progression in the same game
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>>284556772
Who?
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>>284556825
>never play game
>call it shit
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>>284556917
Why would I play a grindy game without pvp? That's shit.
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>>284556346
are you even at g rank? you're going to be farming monsters for a long time for that 4% drop that only can obtained through carving the tail and then capping. Then you'll want to try to speed it up by going online and farming brachy for its pallum, but the retarded faggots wants to cap it because they think it's more loot than carving.
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>>284556776
They are just a giant gear treadmill. People don't mind, though, because the gameplay is actually pretty fun.
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>>284557074
Yeah, but that's what they say about doing the same shit in games like Diablo over and over, and I've found that those are all actually shit games, even Diablo 2, that people only praise because the formula addicts them like a drug.
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>>284557357
Most people do not share your opinion that Diablo 1 and 2 are shit games. People have different tastes.
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>>284557020
>retarded faggots want to cap because they think it's more loot than carving
Not more loot, better drop rates. And it's been true for most of Monster Hunter history that capping gives better loot on average, and is faster.

Only in MH4U (in the West) has this trend been broken, where it's often a better choice to kill for plates / gems / palliums / rare item du jour, rather than capture.
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>>284556776
>I've never played a MH game

Then your opinion isn't worth much. I play MH because the combat is really engaging. You're constantly on your toes and there's a wide selection of enemies to fight. There's also plenty of weapons that all play differently to one another. The upgrading weapons and armor is satisfying but the game would be nothing without the combat to keep people engaged.

To say it in a way you understand it's a ''boss fight simulator.''
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>>284557357
Pretty much. A lot of games /v/ praise are in fact a bunch of mediocre stuff that has an element that makes them addictive, kinda like WoW in it's younger days.
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>>284557357
Monster Hunter has enough content that you can fight all of the monsters at least once and still get enough hours in that it's worth the money. However, some people enjoy hunting large monsters so much that they'll move on to the more difficult modes and do the gear grind until they get bored.
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>>284556776
You fight monsters to get better gear to fight more monsters.
It mights seem like a grind, but fighting monsters can be so satsifying that it rarely seems like a chore.
Plus, there's always something new to discover, like how a certain combination of skills benefits a certain weapon, or understanding a certain tell of a monster improves your chances of staying alive against it. Even if you don't get the drops, you come out of each experience a little better than you were going in.
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>>284556785
>You can't put pvp and permanent stat progression in the same game

You can. People just have to learn to enjoy it for what it is without shoving competition into everything.
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>look ma, my first mh game!
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>>284557357
That is because Diablo IS a shit game, while Monster Hunter isnt.
Diablo is for people who want to turn their brains off and run their four short acts over and over forever.
MH is harder, more engaging and has way more content than any game of that kind.

Go take a look at the gameplay for fucks sake.
Couldnt be more different.
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>>284556346
>Drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded

Rathian Plate < 3%
Lagiacrus plate < 3%
Rathalos plate < 2%


fuck
that
shit
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>>284556614
>he's never played with a LS user
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>>284556346
If they actually got rid of all the idiotic timesink the series has (or at the very least cut them in half) and had tigher controls the games could be great. As they stand, they're just really average, the combat being the only saving grace.
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>>284557934
you get like 10 drops per fight though so it's not that bad.
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the only thing i'm finding a little lacking is online co-op just doesn't feel good enough. you need another human with you to enjoy the game fully, and the only person i know who plays is a friend on holiday. i wish more people would play MH. there's no way I could sink 100+ hours into online play with strangers, it's isolating.
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>>284557901
Nice bait.
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>>284558069
Play over skype or TS.
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Yeah, it's gear progression done purely and properly, considering you get 0 increases to your base stats without gear.

And it shows gear progression games are only salvageable up to a certain point.

90% of people are tired of it well before G rank.
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>>284558116
Go back to your corea tier grind shitfest.
Worst fucking genre.
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>>284558069
the online community is actually bretty good man. you're just beating up loot pinatas, why do you need to know who's with you?
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>>284558195
Are you talking about Diablo or MH?
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>>284558047
Those "drops" are quest rewards, certain items (like plate) only drop from "wounding" a body part

You can only get 1 drop per hunt per body part, so if you add it with your 3 carves you only have 4 chances to get one each hunt
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>>284558183
>90% of people are tired of it well before G rank.
Nothing wrong with that.
For many high rank is too hard already.
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>>284558252
Diablo of course.
Everything I said holds up.
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>>284558069
What's that? Lore? Post more, please
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>>284556776
I've played so far (only) a few hundred hours of MH. Only grinding I've needed is fight the same monsters twice of thrice for the gear, then spend 50+ hours just hunting for the joy of hunt.

People who have never played Monster Hunter overexaggerate the grinding part of the game. New equipment makes your life easier, but it won't play the game for you.
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>>284557934

DESIRE SENSOR
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E

>Need some Rathalos scale+
>Get a bunch of rubies and medullas
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>>284558047
>>284557934

Explain my stack of Gore Magala Plates when all I want is the goddamn tail then.
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>>284558183
>90% of people are tired of it well before G rank.

This was true when I played MH3. I had no idea what I was doing and spent and wasted a colossal amount of time. I enjoyed myself a lot but I spent so much time without really progressing. I got to some like HR4 and stopped playing.

It's completely different with 4. Now that I have a running start I'm progressing well and really enjoying myself. I think it's taken me about a third of the time to get to where I was in 3.

I don't think stopping before G Rank is a big deal anyway. To get to that point the player would have probably put a good few hours in to the game already. Even just doing all of the village quests in 3 would give the average player their money's worth.
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>>284558218
Yeah I don't mind the community. Maybe what I'm saying is more of a testament to how good local co-op was on MH3U, via Wii-U and 3DS.

I just find that with physical communication, this game allows you to enter a state of shared Zen. Utter tranquility.

>>284558498

It's from a Monster Hunter Illustrations Vol 1 I believe, really early stuff.
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>trying to get a Lagia Sapphire

No.

Moster Hunter is not the apex of gear progression games.
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>>284558736
>not cloudy moonshard
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>modern youngsters can't take drop ranges in the % range

Cute
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>>284558880
>% is a range
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>>284556346
I love monster hunter, but the way they release their games is bad, as in how they do the mainline game, then 2-3 standalone expansions. It's somewhat greedy, and not easily noticed from an american viewpoint where we only get a select few of the games.
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>>284558687
Oh yeah I agree about local co-op. Some of my best moments in gaming came from MH3U with my friends and a gravity bong.
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Where do I find Pelicoes with the Healing forte? I'm having a hard time understanding if it's my bad luck vs RNG or if certain skills only show up on certain field maps. I keep getting trappers in the Frozen Seaway, Fighters in V. Hollow and Defenders in S. Hollow. Could be just bad luck but I dunno.
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>>284559008

Pretty sure it's in the same place you fight your first congalala, but I'm so far from that point that I really don't remember.
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>>284556941
>never played
>calls it grindy
>calls it shit

O-okay, friend.
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>>284558261
Almost every rare material in MH3U had a specific quest where the drop rate from the quest itself was significantly higher than the cap/carve rate or you could fight 3 of the monster at the same time aka the monster would have fuck all health each which made getting rare mats a lot easier. Of course most people are retarded so they didn't even look up an easier way to get rare mats.
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>>284559139
So, Primal Forest? I'll try that.
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>>284559008

The very first one I got was a healer. It was in the forest.
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>>284559008
Yeah Calico is in the cave during the Cong mission. Not sure if Calico is a default name (he's the first I've acquired, and he's keeping that name)
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>>284559206
But it IS grindy, anon. He's full of shit for talking about a game he's never played it, but don't you fucking dare pretend that this game isn't grindy.
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>>284559289

Killing a monster 4-5 times is grinding?
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>>284559008
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>>284559267
>>284559286
I'm not talking about the default one you get as a freebie. I'm talking about hiring extra ones. If you set up Palicoes with the same skills in the 1st stinger then your main palico will get new skills, much like how armor skills work. The more palicoes you have as 1st stingers with the same skill (fighting, healing, whatever) the better your main palico becomes at that skill.
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Is this game any good?
I played a shit ton of MH3 on 3ds and got full rathalos armour
I need a massive time sink for 2 weeks
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No-one told me the Lance had a jump attack from it's charge.

Seriously that one move catapulted lance to the best weapon class.
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>>284559208
>quest drop increases from 3% to 10% at max

Fuck that.

>>284559427
No. Killing X monster Y amount times because you need Z amount of parts is grinding. The fact that you may need to kill a fucker 20 times for one fucking part is insanity.
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>>284559439
I love you. Thank you! So I was right that it wasn't completely RNG but dependant on the map.
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>>284559519
If it's a massive time sink you want, then you've come to the right place.

Even the new expedition stuff has that 'one more play' quality to it.
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Is 3U still worth playing for somebody who has a Wii U but no 3DS?

I have Freedom Unite on the PSP that came with it along with a bunch of other games, but I couldn't deal with the load times.
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>>284559519
Maybe take a note of the complete lack of shitposting and hatred consistently found in these daily threads. I hear there is more content in 4U than any other. You hear the call of the Hunter's Horn.
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>>284559718
yes
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>>284559427
>Low Rank

So you don't know shit yet. Thanks for establishing that.
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>>284559718
If you haven't played 4U to spoil you, yes, it's very good.
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>>284559718
Very much so, yes. There are many good monsters in MH3 that were not added into MH4U. Missing out on them would be a shame.
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>>284556346
Because it's a video game with 400m pieces of user-generated FPS Multiplayer games. Like Guts and Pokemon combined.

Bosses get more than 1 move per turn. If you have to do random encounters like the final form of PSO
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Jesus titty-fucking Christ I miss Hyper Ninja Kitty.
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>>284559779

Sure
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>>284557357
I'd praise Diablo 2 even without a gear grind. If you're trying to hit high levels in multiplayer then sure, but the singleplayer alone is fucking fantastic even without a gear grind.
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>keep killing the same monster over and over until you get all the low droprate trash you need to create the shit you want
>also do unfun menial shit over and over like harvesting, fishing and mining either at a farm or on missions
>game is just an incredibly repetitive OCD activity center
>this is the apex of the genre

I guess the whole genre is shit then.
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>>284560017
>not hyper ninja owl
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>>284560312
>not hyper ninja bat
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>>284557568
>>284557020
No, this has been different since Tri at least, and it was still there for 3U. Getting Claws from agnaktor has always been better to carve. Some things can only be gotten from Gigginox if you carve or break parts, not capture.

There are plenty of things that capturing never influences. For gems and plates yeah it will often be the better method, but there are plenty of rare materials since Tri that aren't just gems and plates.
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>>284560354
>not hyper ninja owlbat
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>>284556776
Do you have a 3DS? Download the 4U demo.

Personally I liken it to a PvE raid boss fighting game with a loot-based progression to keep people hooked. Because honestly any actual fighting game loses my interest extremely quickly.
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>>284556346
not enough wildcard armors
shitr where 'oif it was any other set of bonusews trhis would NEVH work'
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>>284560301
I miss the farm.
There was just something so fulfilling about watching it slowly grow and develop, and you could cook 10 slabs of meat in one sitting.
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>>284559617
>10% at max
>4% chance for every slot on two rewards rows
I think you're an idiot. Even binomial calculation doesn't lower it THAT much.
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>Drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded
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>>284558591
You're not ending via subquest.

>>284558069
I enjoy the game fully even without other humans. I view going online as being a co-operative helping-eachother initiative as we all sign up for the same goals and then help each other achieve them faster.

Basically I only ever go online if it's to grind something, and since I expect to eventually forge every single armour and weapon, I never have a problem playing multiplayer with anyone on any quest.

But I will always do those quests at least twice solo before doing so. A single cart in either of those two hunts and I tack on another two hunts until I can do it without carting ever.
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>>284560027
>HR50
>G1

carried scrubs general? I think you might belong in /vg/
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Anime was a mistake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n46wXTQc5tQ
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>>284560934

>Playing with friends is getting carried

If you say so.

The day I got the game we all went online and played together.

I fucking did my G rank urgent Solo
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>>284558687
Ehhhh, I can live without voice chat. Preset messages and pinging are enough for me.
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>>284559439

I still have no clue what the best palico type is... Stamina is incredibly useful for me, but I feel like healing could also be a life saver.
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>>284561001
>based on Frontier G

It was to be expected
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>>284559286
>Calico
I named him Caliconi to make it sound vaguely Italian Mafia.

WHAT HAVE YOU ALL NAMED YOUR PALICOES?

ACE PALICO IS SIEGFRIED
THEN THERE'S CALICO (CALICONI)
AND UDON (UDON-YA) ((I SHOULD HAVE NAMED HIM UDON-NYA))
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>>284561184

Baldrick
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Tips of this Ukanlos fucker? Help me git gud.
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>>284561024
Healing is handy and can sometimes save your life, yes.

But if you get gooder, then I prefer stealing types.
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>>284560934
Well i'm HR 55, and I did every low rank guild quests alone, plus half of HR quests.

I cleared caravan before.

If you are HR 40, or HR 30 at G1, well, you are a carried scrub.
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>>284561024
Again, depends on your class and playstyle. Some tend to work better with certain weapons, like the bomb ones with the gunner classes.
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>>284560891
This nigga knows how it works.
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>>284561249
Pierce / Fire shots?
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>>284561263

What makes you say that? What's wrong with getting the G permit below 50?

>>284561249

When he charges at you just run past him towards him
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>>284561407
You have no armor, no weapon, and your mates will have to carry you.

Guild rank 40 may be forgivable, but below that critical point, you are a scrub.
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>>284561495

Oh I see what you mean, if you're low level you wont have farmed enough monsters for good gear?
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VelocipreyS with gemmed attack up L and psychic is pretty neat for high rank.

Do I still get the attack boost benefits from the canteen with this?
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jesus christ Khezu is already an annoying piece of shit by himself, but two at the same time... My heart can't stand this
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>>284562013
Yes.
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>>284562060

How about you bring dung bombs.

They are made for that.

Unless you mean an arena quest
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>>284562060
Just throw a dung bomb at one of them or use a smoke bomb.
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>>284559617
>10% drop chance
>5 minutes per monster
>average of one drop per 50 minutes

Oh god someone save me from this agonizing grind
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>>284561674
yup. That's the issue, here. I saw a G-ranked guy with like 25 HR. His armor was a stupid mix of everything he could craft on the moment, and his weapon was level 4. Everyone left.
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>>284562354
What drop from what monster? Tell me and I'll tell you the true chances.
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>/mhg/ doesnt have a TS so I cant tell people their favorite weapon is babby casual shit in cute girl voices
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>>284562060
speaking of Khezu... I'm fighting one right now, and the fucking bastard fell asleep hanging from the roof. How the hell do I wake him up?
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>>284562467

I got the Ukantor GS and a set that gives.

Focus
Crit Draw
Sharpness +1

Shitty 350 defense though
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>>284562651
There are icicles on the roof, yeah?

Climb the wall, jump across the icicles, then jump attack him.

Alternatively use barrel bombs. They're in the supply box for a reason.
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>>284562774
Sorry, bounce bombs.
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>>284562774
>Climb the wall, jump across the icicles, then jump attack him.

I thought it was an option, but all of my attempts to reach them ended in failure. I'll use the barrel bombs, thanks a bunch
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Does MH4U have a "Mark of a Hero" type village quest for those who have completed every offline mission? I just beat Silver Rathalos/Gold Rathian/Molten Tigrex etc. and wondering if there's more after that besides G-rank online.
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>>284562902
Then jump to closer icicles?

>>284563187
Yes, but you also need to complete a certain number of gathering hall missions before you can access it as well.
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>Tfw CPP for my XL coming in the mail today.

I'm ready for maximum Comfy bros. How comfy are you guys?
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Is Diablos armor worth making?
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>>284563426
I've been much comfier after getting the n3ds xl. Framerate is more stable and I can rotate the camera using the new shoulder buttons.
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Just got the game yesterday.
Should I be doing the caravan quests first or the guild low rank quests first?
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Why is the Stygian Zinogre set so good? Sub 5 minute Deviljho, it wasn't even a challenge. What other monsters have dragon weaknesses?
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>>284563738
Caravan.
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>>284564018
seeing Rathalos happy makes me angry. Fuck him
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>>284564165
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>>284563738
Caravan. That's essentially the 'story' mode that'll unlock all the extra stuff like recruiting cats, expeditions and more ways to dupe items.
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>>284564165
How about Rathian?
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>>284556346
I just want some nectar for my Kinsect ;_;
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Hey, which MH would be the best one to emulate? I have a friend who wants to try it but doesn't have a 3DS, and I don't wanna make him buy one before he knows if he likes it or not.
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>>284564456
3rd HD on PPSSPP
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>>284564441
you can find tons of it during expeditions

>>284564253
like that. Stupid motherfucking Rathalos

>>284564376
Rathian is fine. I hated her at the beginning, but now I kind of like her
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>>284564456
Freedom Unite or P3rd.

FU has more content, but it's old. P3rd has the improvements of 3rd gen, but has less content and is easier to get into.
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>>284563668
I've found CPP shoulder buttons to be more intuitive than N3DSXL shoulder buttons.

Thank fucking god I don't actually need to turn the camera with the shoulder buttons anymore for proper Bow usage like I had to in 3U. Type 2 is fucking amazing holy shit.
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>>284564441
Just do all of Wycoon's missions till nectar is 3-star with 3 carts available, then dump all of your resource points into generating nectar.
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Any multiplayer stories?

>Do gore urgent for HR2
>just me LBG random DB and random HH
>Do alright
>"japanese name in english" guy enters
>girl avatar with fucking tetsu armor
>switch axe
>DB guy wants to get his urgent Gore done
>DB selects it
>SA faggot posts how he needs Najarala done badly
>keeps bitching until DB gives in and we all do Narj
>During the fight faggot stays back and hardly hits (tries to mount at every opportunity)
>we beat it
>DB picks gore
>everything's fine until he carts
>stays in the first area
>He went AFK

Have you ever blacklisted someone?
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>>284564658
holy shit. That's why I rarely do online. That and because it's usually laggy as fuck
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Anyone have the webm of Gore from the anniversary video? The one where it flies up and becomes Shagaru?
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Friendly reminder that you can use Bombs to blow up those huge ass rocks on egg quests, that will save you a shitload of time
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>>284563187
Here you go.
Remember, you asked for this.
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>>284564824
>have to drop egg to bomb rock
No, it won't.
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>>284564897

You bomb them before you even get the egg.
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Lance was here.

All other weapons are for faggots.
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>>284564836
what the dong.
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>>284564945
But the rocks go up after I get the egg, not before.
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>>284565104

They appear in between drop offs.
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>>284564970
>using the guard poke for your DPS
>minimal fucking damage
>doesn't even combo, it's just one wimpy stab every four seconds

Man that flowchart is shit tier. I understand if people are too pleb to evasion lance, but I die a little more inside everytime I see some shitty pub keeping his shield up 24/7 even when a monster isnt looking at him, or stunned. The only time you should block is if it's a panic block or revving up free fucking counters. Keep that shit down and POKE.
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>>284558970
It's funny how we never hear of this stuff. Japan tends to be just as bad as the west on the DLC front. Possibly worse since they make you rebuy the same game.
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>>284564658
>play emulate tri when 3U is already out
>enjoy it, play 200+ hours
>talk about MH all the time to friend
>I get a wii u finally and order 3U
>order 3U because it's available nowhere
>he gets it digitally
>begins playing and finishes LR without me
>finally get
>he has to be coerced into playing online half the time
>gunlance user
>completely shitty
>shielding all the time
>no deaths, but hardly ever gets a hit in
>I'm talking about myself of course
>friend is dual blade user and actually good
>usual strategy of being a shielding scrub while the monster just sticks on me doesn't work since it keeps going after him
>meanwhile he hacks it up and I feel useless
>leave, block him, delete from contacts
>doxx him
>harass zoe quin and anita sarkesian using his twitter that I knew the password to
never again
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>>284564836
That isn't that bad, especially if they give you access to the "drive" wystone. Do they have G-rank damage/health?
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>>284565346
this. I don't Lance much but when I did I learned shield poking won't work. although these flow charts are usually jokes
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>>284565414
Guild sweeheart is so fucking adorable, my heart hurts. I will never hunt monsters with her cheering me on ;_;
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>>284559427
Yes, when the game challenges you to kill it once and you have to kill it 4 extra times just to make your character stronger, that is textbook grind.
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>>284565589
>4
try 50 in this game
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>>284565737
It depends, I managed to make the full S.Zinogre set after 3 hunts, during which I got 4 umbrages (gems).
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>>284564658
I havent had very bad experiences.

Aside from one guy who fucked up every mount he did. We did like 3 hunts together and he's fail the mini game every time he'd try it. The mini game isn't even hard. I fuck it up sometimes due to stamina but unless you have a broken R there's no reason to fail.
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I only played Tri and I beat the big Lag monster thing but stopped playing after because it was taking me 40 minutes to kill the big bad boss monsters, and I needed to kill them 3+ times to get items to upgrade my gear, and if I didn't then I couldn't beat the next tier of monsters in time. I would rarely ever die while playing but killing them just took forever with my weapons (used the switch axe mostly). Just to kill the Lag thing I had to kill the mud dinosaur something like seven times because I couldn't get a specific item to drop when I was carving it up. I had a lot of fun playing it and I'm not saying it's a bad game but I couldn't keep playing when progression relied entirely on spending so much time doing things I'd already done. I guess the answer was to git gud and kill stuff faster.
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What's a good best weapon aka GS to grind at LR
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>>284565737
if you've had to do over 20 hunts it's your fault for triggering the desire sensor and not loading your save to before you looked at the requirements, or simply checking on the wiki.
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>>284565260
I have watched as a rock hasn't been there before I got the egg, then been there after. Don't you dare fucking tell me it happens on drop off.
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>>284565887
>Don't you dare fucking tell me it happens on drop off.

It does.
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>>284565848
Proper execution can cut down a lot of time.
Its not just all gear. Thats something you'll notice when you got all the best possible gear and then still see some improvement in hunt times after that.

I remember Switchaxes being bad in Tri though.
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>>284564836
At least monsters have lower health when it's a multi-monster hunt.
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>>284565260
Fucking sneaky-ass rocks.
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>>284557820
So you want imbalanace. PvP is all about competition, be it friendly strife or rank, it will always be about competition. PvP is competitive in nature. There is literally no PvP game that exists that ISN'T competitive. Go on. Name one. You don't go into a battlefield to suck your enemy's dick, you go to subjugate them.
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>>284565881
how does this desire sensor even work
i swear to god it's fucking real
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>>284565958
It doesn't, you misinforming shitlord.
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>>284566119

It does. I've seen some casual shit in MH threads but not being able to handle rocks in egg quests is a new low. Seek help.
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>>284565879
Just make the ravager blade(+). You won't be upgrading it past low rank, but it's a great low rank weapon owing to its huge bar of green sharpness and solid damage. Also it takes ore to make rather than monster materials.
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>>284566071
>At least monsters have lower health when it's a multi-monster hunt.
I'm disappointed by this mechanic. why not balance correctly so that the quest is difficult but possible, without nerfing the monsters in them? tri had this for the few post-game village quests, if I recall

instead we get various iterations of "BIG BAD IMPOSSIBLE FINAL ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN" with five monsters who die in two hits
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>Drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded
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>>284566071
>MHP3gayshit
Why is the filename so angry?
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>>284566367
Man I never even managed to complete the 3U village "Mark of a Hero" quest.

I just couldn't do it, I tried so hard.
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>>284566215
>Not being able to handle rocks
Who the fuck isn't able to handle rocks? I can handle rocks just fine, I'm just telling you straight to your fucking e-face that you are a goddamn liar and misinforming people about when rocks come up.

If rocks came up after drop-off, then your primary path would be blocked the moment you leave to get the next one. It isn't. It is, however, blocked after you get the next one. This means that it sneaks in after you get the egg, not before.
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>>284566367
>Balance correctly so the quest is difficult but possible.

That's exactly how it is. Monsters die faster, but deal more damage.
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>>284566104
I didn't believe until I needed 4 G.Jaggi frills to make the Chieftain's greatsword and it took me over 30 2-minute hunts, during which I broke its head 100% of the time. I had 9 heads (10% chance) and 4 frills (65% chance) when I finally finished.
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>>284566525

What exactly is it you can't handle when it comes to the rocks? If you're having this much difficulty so early in the game then I suggest you give up now.
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Shouldnt we get an announcement for the next MH game soon?
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>Regios armor and Regios lance
I am a king
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Is "progression game" a way not to call MH a boring grindbox?
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>>284566609
> but deal more damage.
is this true?

but really, my problem is that they don't give any indication that these monsters are different from usual. you only know from the description and having done such quests before. you just have these monsters that are strangely much weaker than usual. it tickles my autism

it's not like with those DLC quests with giant monsters
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hey does anyone know how to unlock a village molten tigrex? So much misinformation online.
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>>284566813
>boring
It's pretty much the only non-boring console game these days.
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>>284566813
I don't see how it is boring, I can't wait to play it every day because of how much fun I'm having.
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>>284566828
It tickles my autism too, but at least I know I don't need to worry much about the difficulty. hunt a thons are total jokes
>tfw 5 hard mode narjalalalas in a single go
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>>284566486
Because I'm a casual who doesn't want to do end-game shit alone in one of the easiest MH games.
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>tfw watching my friend get mad at the Gigginox in P3rd
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I'm sure you'll all laugh at me for asking but

How do I do guild quests?
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>>284567003
in the gathering hall
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>>284566813
You can get plenty of gameplay out of it before it becomes boring, because it consists mostly of boss battles, unlike other grindfests.
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>>284567003
Gathering hall, its an option next to event and urgent
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>>284566950
But soloing is fun, reaching the right mindset can take a while. Have you tried using evade+?

And we could just play on Evolve maybe??
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>>284566891
Glad for you to be easily entertained. After 4 games of the series I'm done with it. It's always the same old "kill a monster, grind for gear, kill a stronger monster, repeat", and I'm always late to the party so I don't get to play online, which is the only reason this tripe is remotely fun to play.
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>>284566962
>3rd
anybody who complains about anything in that wouldnt make it in any other MH game.
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>>284567134
why
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>>284567130
>not being a solo hunter who plays for the gameplay and challenge
come the fuck on
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>>284567130
Then why are you in the thread? How are those assburgers treating you
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>>284567130
>easily entertained

>and I'm always late to the party so I don't get to play online
But so am I. I have no 3DS yet.
And Tri was shut down over 3 years after release if that's the game you were referring to.
>which is the only reason this tripe is remotely fun to play
That's just wrong. I'll admit that the singleplayer loses some of its charm outside of your first game but that's a huge exaggeration.
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>>284567226
3rd is the biggest joke.
You have access to way too strong gear early on, monsters have really low HP and the exhaust mechanic fucks with them really hard too.

It doesnt compensate for a lack of Grank like Tri either.
Its by far the easiest MH game.
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>>284567226
Because good hitboxes, no retarded charm tables and monsters that don't deal stupid amounts of damage in low rank is what passes for easy in the series.
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>>284559427
I love the game dude, but I literally had to kill a diablos 21 times and capture it once just to make the armor set. Literally Why on some of these drop rates.
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Was Purple Gypceros specially made to be a frustrating piece of shit?
Immunity to shock trap was the icing on the fucking cake.
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>>284567381
And it's great.
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>drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded
Oh are you sure? The 1% shit (up to 5% if you really work at it!) bullshit has to stop.
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>>284567516
>rubber skin
>immune to thunder and shock
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>>284567534
No.
The most boring game in the series.
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>>284567516
Well it is made out of rubber and all.
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I hate to be that guy, but I rather dislike Monster Hunter. When I was playing it, the game's controls just felt really uncomfortable and clunky compared to Dark Souls, Witcher, or Dragon's Dogma.

I honestly think MH could be a good game if it was a bit faster and not on the 3DS.
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>>284567516

>Gypceros drops rubber hides

OH GEE WHY CAN'T I SHOCK IT
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>>284567640
Nah, it's really fun and very well polished.
Didn't last as long as FU but I feel like I got twice the enjoyment out of it.
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>>284567251
Killing Duramboros 48 times is not fun nor challenging. But hey, there's always the guy that kills shit with overpowered gear "for fun" in these threads, and tells it's okay if you get shat on by the drops and you can't progress with a weapon you invested so much time, forcing you to start again with another in the hope you won't get shafted another time. Unfortunately, I'm not him.
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>>284567738
Couldve played 3U and gotten five times the enjoyment out of it.
Not only is it boring, its also redundant as shit now.

Worst MH.
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>>284567102
I have high rank Volvi and Narga armor which give good evade skills but I feel like I'm reaching my limits at 5* guild quests. I have evolve because I heard something about using it to play MH online but I haven't really tried doing anything with it yet, I'll do some hunting with you if you're up for showing me how it works.
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>>284566645
>Not even addressing the argument anymore
Right, so you're just a shitposter then. Good to know.

I just take exception to when faggots like you try to mislead the newbies.
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>>284567130

>FPS
>same old kill enemies until you win
>RPG
>same old fuck men until you win
>RTS
>same old ancient korean secret until you win

see I can shitpost too
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>>284567665
I disagree with the "faster" notion (did you even try the fast weapons?), but I agree that MH should be on literally any platform other than the 3DS. It doesn't even make great use of the 3D so there's no good reason to have it there. From a consumer standpoint anyway, I know why Capcom put it there. I'd even buy a Vita for MH if it came to that.

And I say this as a Nintendo fan
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In expeditions, do battered weapons/armor only drop from mining the nodes in those areas where you find poogie/palicos?

Cuz I mine every spot I can, and they only drop in those areas
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>>284563656
Anybody? I'm mostly wondering if it gets outclassed by anything soon after, considering it's technically a low rank armor.
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>>284567796
>Killing Duramboros 48 times
doing it wrong.
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>>284567919
The only other Handheld platforms available are phones and the Vita.

Vita's got a shit install base and is made by Sony, who fucked the MH team over on localization of P3rd.

Phones... might be a possibility, but I honestly wouldn't prefer them to the 3DS.
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>>284567906
In all of those you don't have to kill something over and over to get some special kind of bear ass to upgrade your gear and get on with the game.
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>>284568062
I've seen them ocassionally drop in other areas, but you mostly get them in those.
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>>284567894

You have a hard time navigating past rocks that block your path. I don't really think you're in a position to call anyone a ''newbie.''
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>>284568202
I hate playing games too.
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>>284568272
You're the only one inferring that, mate. Nothing I've said has even suggested that I have difficulty navigating past them. All I've said is that you're a liar who is misinforming people as to how the game's mechanics work, and you're responding with ad hominem. Frankly it's pathetic.
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Artillery god
Razor sharp
Guard +1/2

What else should GL need to add here?
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>>284568062
They only drop from blue nodes, and blue nodes can be found anywhere. They're far more common in treasure areas though. Another good way is to beat high level double guild quests.
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>>284568117
Alright, netting and breaking his tail, back and horns 48 times. Fuck you for reminding me.
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>>284567919
I use a Longsword or Lance. Both are comparable to the slower weapons in Souls or DD. In general the game's pace was rather slow though. Monsters telegraphed their moves for way too long, the actual challenge was getting out of the massive hitboxes in time. Roll recovery also takes way too long for me and I find it comparable to the slowest rolls in Souls games, but it might just be because I'm used to and prefer faster rolls in other games.

>>284567919
>>284568173
In terms of systems, I think the game should've been on PS3/PS4/PSV/Wii U/PC since I know most people in Japan don't play on Microsoft systems.
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>>284568421
thats pretty much it. A simple and not simple weapon
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>>284568421
Load Up is basically a 1.2x buff to Full Burst on normal types and makes Wide types more bearable in general, especially for doing shelling-only runs.
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>>284568271

Ok cool, I'll keep mining every spot I can then

like my OCD would let me do the contrary anyways har har har
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>>284568084
>low rank
just use your velocidrome armour and wait until HR
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>monster kill counts in guild card a testament to how completely unfun this game can be at times
How do we fix the random drop model?
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>>284568579
>full burst on wide types
>not spamming charged shots
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>>284568538
most people in japan dont play on anything but the 3DS and mobile phones.
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>>284567816
That's what I think about 3U. I played P3rd first since it logically came out before and 3U had very little new content to make it worth it.
had to play it on and off, in the end got 200 hours out of both titles.

Still a great game.
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>>284568579
Okay, I'll try to work that in. Would load up make doing full discharges now worth it for wide shots?
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>>284568202

>have to play the game to get rewards

how awful
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>>284568630
Why should we?
Do you want to get everything instantly?

I'd also rather it come down to RNG than a "kill this monster 10 times to get enough points to buy a gem with" or something like that.
At least RNG means you're always excited to see the reward screen and carves
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>>284568401
>You're the only one inferring that, mate.

I know. You keep responding anyway. I thought you have realized what's happening by now.
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>>284568421
Sharpener or stamina maybe. Ease of life stuff anyways
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>>284568669
But the 3DS wasn't made for games like this, at all. The touch screen makes no sense and the second thumbstick would've been invaluable.
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>>284558016
>start using lance
>keep getting paired with teams of glaives, long swords, or charge blades
>tripping for days
and then I went back to gs
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>>284556614
Thats literally against the point of the game.

>>284558016
This as well.
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>>284568685
>That's what I think about 3U.
And that makes you stupid.
Even when playing 3U after 3rd anybody should be able to see that 3rd is a shit game.

Shit I'd most likely not play MH anymore if every game followed 3rds example.
Game's a fucking joke.
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>>284568538
Most people in Japan prefer to play on Handhelds. Literally the reason it isn't on a console is because the Japanese simply don't buy it as much on consoles, which means that doing so would fuck over their profit real bad.

Due to the sheer number of people commuting and how long they spend doing it, it's the perfect game to take on the go since you're likely to find plenty of people playing it on the bus or train. It's also great for work breaks.

Also the Japanese prefer to play together in person instead of over the internet, and handheld gameplay supports that.
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>>284567837
Tough luck. I don't even have it but I've felt like touching my old P3rd save lately.
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>>284568834
The touch screen is great for UI changes.
And if you get a CPP you can play with your second thumbstick.

And dont even try to cry about it, the CPP is great.
The solution is right there.
The 3DS is better for these games than the PSP ever was.
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>>284568759
>Why should we?
>>>monster kill counts in guild card a testament to how completely unfun this game can be at times
>I'd also rather it come down to RNG than a "kill this monster 10 times to get enough points to buy a gem with" or something like that.
But why not both?

Guaranteed drops that can be combined into rare items, plus the chance of obtaining rare item on its own.
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>>284568710
Just keep using charge shots on your wide types, its literally the entirely point of the type
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>>284568630
And break the foundations of the whole game, killing stuff over and over again while keeping people hooked in the vain hope they get their piece of monster for their gear? Just play with someone else.
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>>284568668
I think you need to re-read that because what you said isn't even close to what I said.

>>284568710
Full bursts are never worth it for wide shots, ever, just like charged shots are never worth it for normal shots, ever.
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>playing with random people
>ever

I can never deal with random people, it's either very very close friends of mine whom I hunt with or alone.

I'm always hunting alone
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I tried to get into MH, but I don't like the combat. I want MH with DMC/GH level of crazy.
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>>284568880
>Even when playing 3U after 3rd anybody should be able to see that 3rd is a shit game.
Man, you're the stupid one here.
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>>284569143
dual blades are pretty crazy
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>>284568992
>>284569013
Ah okay. I'm only HR7, been using a gyrelance wide 3 with my current artillery god set. Holy shit those charge shots. I guess now I have a good idea of what to aim for.

Thanks. I love gunlances.
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>>284568761
I have realized it, and yet...
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>>284569143
Get dual blades, it's basically what every person with an ADD/ADHD use.

HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE
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To the people who can mount enemies after being launched by my upward hammer attack - you're real human beans and real hunters.
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>>284569178
I'd say that too if I had nothing else to add.

Its a good thing that Capcom never repeated 3rd.
Hopefully they wont ever go that stupid again.
Tri was better than this.
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>>284569285
>implying ADD and ADHD are sets of disorders rather than the names of two specific disorders
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>>284569143
Don't play MH, period. You can't really juggle enemies in MH.
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>>284568880
>Game lacks G-Rank
>People cry about its lack of difficulty
The trend has been that everything before G-Rank has been becoming easier while everything at G-Rank has been becoming harder. No fucking wonder the game isn't difficult if it only goes up to high rank.
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>>284569249

Good luck with those rocks. I hear they get pretty tough once you hit G Rank.
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>>284556346
>>284556776
>>284557673
whats the best emulatable or vita/ps3 MH if their is one?
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>>284569218
>>284569285
Doesn't look crazy, just faster than most MH weapons.
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>>284569413
Tri actually had a really hard High Rank because it didnt come with a Grank.

And its not even that, 3rd was stupidly imbalanced all around.
I remember getting white sharpness with low rank gear. Fucking stupid.
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>>284569413
your sentences contradict. games with guild rank nerf LR and HR to make room for a third difficulty level. missing GR does not mean a game is hard. having GR practically means you need to get to GR for it to be hard
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>>284569361
>nothing else to add
At least I don't run in circles on a "i hate it" argument.
3U was just as easy with just that little peak in difficulty at early G-rank. Both are fine games.
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>>284569474
FU.
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tfw jousting with charging monsters using my lance and connecting with a jump attack, leading into a mount before they hit me
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>>284557357
D2 is more about the skill and character building, and not so much a gear treadmill.

Only 1 and especially 3 are gear treadmills
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Is it worth playing this on regular 3DS, or is this a game that should only b experienced on the New 3DS?

I only have a regular 3DS and don't want to drop $220 on a new system just for a better framerate.
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>>284569627
>3U was just as easy
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>>284561228
Faulty towers reference? my nigga
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how do i get wystones and whats a good armor set for starting g - rank?
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>>284569802
Get a CPP and play on your regular 3DS.
As you've said, its not worth it.
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>>284569802

Old 3DS is fine. Get a CCP if you're concerned about the controls.
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>>284569474
3rd HD
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>>284569908
I'd assume you get them from the Wyceum
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>>284569808
Yep.
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Friendly reminder that you can build a cheap set in LR with Gathering +2, Spirit's Whim and Speed Gatherer

And it really helps
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>>284569582
It had a really hard high rank because it was online only and balanced for four fucking people, mate. Also it came hot off the heels of FU which was known for its bullshit difficulty, so yeah they'd try to maintain some level of difficulty with their new monsters.

>>284569624
Are you saying that Freedom 2's High Rank was harder than Freedom Unite's High Rank?
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>>284570025
>>284569685
so which one?

3rd seemed to be japanese exclusively before some team bothered to translate, and japanese exclusive games to their series tend to be great.

So whats the pros/cons with FU and 3rd?
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>>284570297
helps with what? speed gatherer is nice in general though for fast carves.
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>>284569808
I don't agree that it's just as easy, but it's certainly not much harder.
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>>284570097
The delusions
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>>284570436
FU is the definitive version of the second gen of monster hunter.
3rd is inbetween version filler and completely pointless now that 3U exist for the Wiiu and 3DS.

Always go for the U suffix games.
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>LR
>no problems with tigrex at all
>HR
>28 minutes, 9 mega potions

I don't know If I should be proud that I beat him or ashamed that it took me so much time and potions
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>all this portable 3rd hate

Hey if the only games we got are FU/2ndG, tri, 3rd HD and Frontier G then 3rd HD is still the best choice

>>284570436

FU has less weapons and clunkier gameplay (no 3rd gen movesets), but is more difficult (mostly because of broken hitboxes) and has far more content than 3rd because it has G Rank.

Both are locked to 30fps on ppsspp however so they hurt my eyes
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>>284570681
Alright thanks ill check out FU.

Never played or know anything about it but ive been playing Dragons Dogma on my PS3 recently and want something like it that I can play on my PC.

Seems like PC is completely void of those types of games with Dark Souls sadly being the closest, great game but I know its not really in the same vain of those 2 in terms of what I want.
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>>284570446
With farming obviously

Whenever you go out on harvesting runs, bring that set
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Does 3U emulate well on Dolphin?
I got no WiiU/3DS so I am borked if it doesn't.
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>>284570981
There's heaps of skinner boxes on the PC.
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>>284556346
> People who refuse to use potions at all, and then get carted.

Why do you people exist? What is people's problem with thinking using potions is a bad thing
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Playing 4U, is there a high rank gunner armor that has Load Up? I'm at 9 star village right now and I want to make that sweet Seregios bow but it's not really worth it unless I can get Load Up somehow.
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>>284571094
>Get shaggy plate on first hunt
>Get rathian plate on 4th hunt and ruby of first high hunt
>Still no Rathalos plate

Is this what hell feels like?
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>>284570981
Its a console type of genre and PCs simply dont have that.
Its the reason why I still keep consoles around.

And while I dont recommend 3rd too much its still worth a try if you think that FU is too rough. 3rd being a game in the third generation is a lot more polished and some of the problems people had in FU arent in it anymore.
So if you face some bullshit in FU and think of dropping the series, give the other one a go to see if you like the more recent changes.

FU is still really good though as it has tons of unique monsters and areas that arent in the third gen games.

I'd recommend grabbing a 3DS or something if you enjoy what you see in the PSP ones. The games pretty much only get better over time.
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>>284571094
Ive never had to do such a thing. Not for anything gatherer helps with anyways.
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>>284571180
Dude, Google. Goddamn. Tri is for the Wii, 3rd for the PSP, 3U for the WiiU/3DS. Tri seems to work well, no online though.
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>>284571269
Stygian Zinogre armor gets it
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>>284570968
>Hey if the only games we got are FU/2ndG, tri, 3rd HD and Frontier G then 3rd HD is still the best choice
I'd play FU then.
3rd doesnt last nearly enough.
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Stupid question: what ways can you heal? I know of herbs, potions, and mega potions, but I'm using a set that lowers healing item effectiveness and was wondering what items I can bring to make up for that. Best I can think is potions and mega, along with blue shrooms, herbs, and honey to make more. There's no other items that recover lost health (Jerkey just refills red recoverable damage).
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>>284569474
It would be Portable 3rd for Vita. It's technically the worst since it's the easiest, but Freedom Unite has terrible hitboxes and super dated mechanics.

MonHan games are largely iterative, so the newest one is almost always the best.
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>>284571391
Well shit. I am an are a stupid person.
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>>284571531
healing horn, lifepowders
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>>284571531
>I'm using a set that lowers healing item effectiveness
gem it so it doesn't have that
it's the fucking worst thing ever
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Which HR sets are good for hammer users?
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>>284571531
All you literally have to do is spare one gem slot to counteract the lowered healing effectiveness.
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>>284571180
Dolphin cant emulate wiiu games. You could play tri instead but at that point you should just play portable 3rd HD since 3u > 3rd > tri for third gen (3rd has online on ppsspp)

>>284571198
Frontier G is on PC, although japanese only and most mainline players hate it due to the MMORPG explosions everywhere tier monsters they added and tonfas being retarded weapons
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>>284571661
Fuck. I originally had that, but considered sacrificing it for the last points to get Autotracker due to my Psychic talisman.
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>>284571848
healing from items>psychic
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>>284571848
not worth it especially since autotracker isn't actually that useful
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>>284571908
All right. I guess I'll do that and hope to find a talisman with psychic and an additional slot at some point.
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>>284571848
Just use psychoserums and paintballs.

Healing is way too important, especially when playing online with people.
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>>284558736
>not Lagi Horns
pls
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>>284571728
I like the look of the Diablos Z set.
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Many Korean action MMO is rather good with drops these days.
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>>284572032
Okay. I have enough points to at least maintain Detect, is that any use? Iirc, it just shows which direction a painted monster is facing and if they're asleep.
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>>284572391
I think it also displays a monster's location every 5 minutes. if you haven't paintballed it. Nothing really that special
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>>284572539
Oh, that's actually pretty useful still. All right, I think this setup can work out. Thanks guys.
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>>284572391
I don't want to sound like I'm being mean or anything, but in general, more experienced hunters will eventually learn all of the following for literally every monster:

Where it starts.
Every number it can appear at
Where it goes to sleep.

In general, you want other skills instead.
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>Drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded

I must disagree on that one. I had to kill the Najarala 37 times to get one beak. That was frustratingly retarded.
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Should I buy it?
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>>284573051
In the same boat but I would have to buy a 3ds for this game alone. It would become my monster hunter machine.
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>>284573051
There's a demo you nignog, try it.
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>>284572729
Early on its still not too bad.

Its just nothing I'd sacrifice skills for.

Like I run Atk Up(L) and Psychic on my HR set and thats neat.
Cant learn where they go to before you actually see them go there at least once.

Same with maps. Gotta play with them a bit before you actually know everything by heart. The levels that get introduced past low rank are kinda shitty because of that. You get dropped off at a random place with no map with no chance of actually learning where things are.
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>>284573051
if you like MH then yes, it's the best one yet

otherwise yes because it's fucking good
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So good.
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Why buy this? Isn't the new MH on PC the better version? I can't game sub HighDef because my eyes are no good.
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>Tetsu Z for Charge Blade
>Artillery God because Artillery God
>Guard Up to block abso-fucking-lutely anything in a pinch
>HG Earplugs for them easy knockouts
>Looks like some kind of robo-samurai

At least I get to run one pretty set before I have to clownsuit the rest of the game.
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>>284573103
Emulate a few games using PPSSPP first. It's a very 'like it/hate it' kinda series, so I'd be wary buying an entire console for it.
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>>284572729
True, I just like the option.

And to admit some faggotry, I'm using S.Zinogre set which looks like a badass wolf, so I wanted a tracking skill to go with it.

Using Switchaxe, so debating switching out the psychic stuff to buff the set's skills (evasion or dragon attack), or to try earn a new skull instead but dunno what would be good, since I main GL with SA being a secondary.
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>>284570297
>tfw found a Gathering +10 Talisman
I miss out on Speed Gatherer but I can have Gathering God and Spirit's Whim whenever I just need to gather some materials
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>>284573236
>I can't game sub HighDef because my eyes are no good.
what a shit excuse.
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Anyone down for some HR4?

GH ID : 60-0523-0335-2046
Passcode : 3333
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>>284564658

This was back in tri.

>Blood Sport is out
>Fuck yer, time to complete my fire lance
>Meet with some bros, they're awesome, complete first form of lance
>Everyone leaves, head to recruitment servers.
>Search for Event Quest, find one
>Two guys are in it. One of them is named Ryan
>Ryan asks the other guy to leave cause he's too "low lvl"
>He does. Laugh a bit.
>HeDidn'tTakeThisAsABadSign.jpg
>Get corralled into doing the quest alone with Ryan
>Both Diablos and Uragaan are tag teaming me like that bitch in the pornos.
>Constantly
>They head over to him once
>Start targeting me again.
>He's always off to the side doing. . .something. . .?
>Start to get a sneaking suspicion that his armor has Sneak on it.
>Get thrown in the corner
>Diablos tail swipe, Uragaan chin bash, stamina broken, FINAL DESTINATION
>Faint
>Before I even get back to camp, before the screen even fades OUT
>"Ryan has exited the game"
>Still have lobby chat on. First thing Ryan asks to the guy waiting in there:
>"lv?"
>He leaves
>Forced to abandon quest cause they're just assraping me hard.
>Come back out, try and start quest again with the three new people that came in
>One dies twice, the other gets killed easily as well
>We never stood a chance
>Look at their armors
>One has Barioth and Diablos mixed; No skills.
>One has Ian, Los, and Barioth mixed. Attack up(S), Sneak, one negative skill I've forgotten
>One has high rank Laggy armor vanilla. No extra skills set in.
>Guy with the Laggy armor starts issuing commands to everyone.
>Tells the Girl who ACTUALLY has any skills (albeit shitty ones) to leave
>Says the guy with no skills has "decent armor"
>Says I'm "only okay".
>I'm wearing full High Rank Ingot with everything gemmed in properly for a Lance.
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I just got my ass beat in by the Pink Rathian. Tips, anyone?
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Wow, I am such a fucking retard. I could've gotten this weeks ago, even the MH4 3DS XL, but my brain you see isn't exactly up to human specs yet, because I just remembered lots of webshops here lets you order things by invoice, as in: get your stuff now, pay later. God I am an idiot.

So, the order gets here Thursday. How do I git gud at huntan?
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>>284573126
>with no chance of actually learning where things are
not really, it's still easy to learn areas without a map, + you can find the camp and grab a map
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>>284573419
I have elderly eyes. Is 3DSXL any help?
And what is that new MH on PC?
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>>284573556
hit and dodge
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>>284573415
>Gathering +10 Talisman

Use that, wear the basic Leather set, gem in Speed Gather.
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anyone farming HR gores? ineed the a gem
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>>284573460
Another story from Tri:

>Go onto /v/
>Ask for help with the Cold Call Event cause it's really hard to get a team that ACTUALLY wants to do that quest
>Two people show up
>Go on quest
>One of them keeps tripping me, the other one is quite frankly the worst bow gunner I've ever seen.
>He fires off shot after shot after shot of electric shot.
>Electric
>Cold Call
>Still make good time
>Get no Dark Metal tickets
>One of them puts up a harvest quest. He's looking for Isisium
>Tell him to mine while we take care of the Great Baggi
>"Okay"
>Everyone is ready
>"Then fail the quest"
>"Wait. . .wha-"
>Quest starts
>He mines. We kill the Baggi.
>He's still mining when we start with Gigginox
>"fail!!!"
>He and the other one just stop moving
>"WAIT! DON'T FAIL!
>"Yes"
>They both die
>They come back and die again
>Quest Failed
>"WHY?! WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!"
>"I needed money"
>"YOU GET LIKE 8,000z FROM BEATING THE QUEST NORMALLY, AND I GET WHAT I CAME IN FOR."
>"EVERYBODY'S HAPPY"
>Other guy: "Dude, just calm down"
>"It's just a game".

I got trolled, call the cops, etc.
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>>284573419
MHOnline is korean exclusive and garbage but has cryengine amazing visuals.

MHFrontier G is actually alright but japan exclusive and the new monsters they add dont really feel like monster hunter monsters at all (more like you are fighting a WoW or FFXIV raid boss but with MH gameplay)

Both are 2nd/3rd gen so no vertical movement either
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>>284573523
its front left is a danger zone (fire breath)
back off when it takes a step back, it's going to do the poison spiral
don't ever stand directly behind or in front of it or you'll get backflipped

>>284573556
don't get hit
be patient
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Should I forge the Red Pincer GS? It's made out of daimyo hermitaur crab material. It seems like it would be a good bridge between the Tiger Jawblade I have right now and its next step, which is the Monoblos GS, but Monoblos is apparently caravan 8 so it'll be a while.
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>>284573753
With a 3-slot weapon right? Damn, that's smarts. Thanks. Now I have the ultimate gathering set
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>>284573953
Meant to reply to >>284573236
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Where the hell can I find a MH tri rom to play with Dolphin
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>tfw you rolled female like you always do and for once your dick's decisions have betrayed you because males get all the cool armor

So lame. I refuse to start over and lose my 100 hrs.
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>>284573556
Try to go for matching armor sets instead of mixing and matching until you get a better understanding as to how the skill points work.

The 'meat delivery' quest can be done repeatedly over and over since you get the meat back after you're done, allowing you to quickly go through randomly generated things like expedition monsters and what wycoon has and is harvesting.

Think of it like Punch-Out in that it's one-on-one and your best way of survivng and killing monsters quickly is noticing their tells and when they're telegraphing their moves, then attacking accordingly. So be patient.
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>>284574230
https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Monster_Hunter_Tri#Testing
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>>284573787
Sounds like fun. I could go for the HR Gore set. I'm in
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>>284574230
Go play Portable 3rd hd on ppsspp instead, it has online unlike tri, It has more content than tri aswell.
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>>284574297
> Not looking at all armor sets before picking a gender for every mh game.

Enjoy your no actual helmets ever covering your face.
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>>284573860
Keep in mind, this happened a couple years ago when the umad meme was still popular here.


>Need like 50 gajillion Gobul Spike+
>Do a room search for High/Gobul/Skilled Players Only
>Find one room
>Three guys are in it already.
>Marine Warfare is up, Gobul x 2, someone picks that.
>THIS guy sees it, goes to the quest counter, picks Grab A Gobul instead. Only 1 gobul.
>Pick Marine Warfare instead cause x6 carves for Spike+ is much better than x3
>Guy 1 asks guy 2 to join his quest.
>Guy 2 tells guy 1 he's retarded.
>Ask him why. Explain that 6 carves are better chances than 3.
>Calls ME retarded, says you can't carve a Lantern+ off.
>Tell him I'm not after Lanterns, I'm after spikes.
>Starts whining that he didn't make this an event room.
>Point out to him that the room says Gobul, it doesn't specify (which you CAN specify) what type of quest.
>Starts shouting and calling me names, whining about it's not an Event room.
>Maybe I AM being stupid. After all, sometimes Event quests don't give out monster carves, but special items.
>Ask him if you can get Monster Carves from the quest.
>Doesn't answer, calling me retarded and telling me it's not an event room. Doesn't want to do two at a time.
>"Can you get carves
>"from this quest
>"Yes or no?"
>"I'm not getting bullied out of my own room!"
>Fuck him, go to the ready post, get ready, me and guy 1 go on quest.
>Half way through, he starts whispering me, calling me names and shit
>Type back umad?
>He flips out
>Photo happens
>He's blocked me, can't respond
>Get my spikes anyways
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>>284574371

Am I being retarded here when can I download the game from here
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>>284573051
It's not for everyone. and i have good news, there is a demo. It conveys only the combat (no crafting or carving) But that's what your are going to do most of the game anyway
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>>284574404
i actually dont have the quest i just been doing it with others. idk when you get it in hr5
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>>284574074
Yes its great.
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>>284573103
I bought a n3dsxl for my monster hunter machine, but I dropped a ton of hours into emulated p3rd first.
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>>284560548
>you could cook 10 slabs of meat in one sitting

you can cook 15 now
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Is the only way to get Pale Extract from fighting Khezu? Because I really don't like fighting Khezu
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>>284573227
>Not the stevesword
You don't know good yet.
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>>284556346
Nah, grinding actually can be a bitch. So it isn't perfect imo. It's on up there I suppose.
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>>284575609
>look I'm using the same weapon as everyone else isn't that cool
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So any good anon can tell me which armor sets are good for GL and GS. I currently have LR Seltas armor for GL. I'm HR5 atm so hoping to get like 2 armor sets (GL and GS) that'll i'll carry into G-Rank.
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>>284573953
I see. Thanks.

How beginner friendly is this game? Is it any good for loners?
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>>284575594
>Because I really don't like fighting Khezu

I feel you.
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>>284558043
As a big fan of the series I have to unfortunately agree with this. Some of the fights do feel like time sinks, and there isn't really always anything you can do about it.

If a monster decides to spam running attacks or other "DON'T HIT NOW, RUN" attacks then quests can get boring and obnoxious.
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>>284556776
They're gear tread mills with fun gameplay. I don't mind grinding as long as the journey is fun. When a game makes me grind and the journey sucks, then we got a problem.
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>>284569808
For those who think 3U and P3rd are as easy. Go watch an Alatreon run in P3rd. Is automatic easy
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>>284575742
Honestly, for GL, you're not gonna get much better than the various versions of Seltas. Artillery and Sharp are too good.
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>>284575172
Have to do some other key quests first it seems. Want to start a lobby?
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>>284576073
What about Greatsword?
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So I'm HR 2 and I'm at the Cheeko sands in the single player. The hammer I've been using for the longest time has been the Boosted hammer but I also have a Bone Bludgeon and Iron Striker in my inventory

the blue sharpness hammers seem pretty far off still so I wonder if I should continue sticking with my boosted hammer or try to shoot for something else?
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>>284558687
Local co-op is always going to be better, though. You can communicate more reliably. You can get nearly no lag. Feels pretty good.

Maybe one day, they'll work out some better servers and it'll at least be passable. Connection drops are fucking horrid in 4U. I got plenty of good internet and I played 3U with almost no problems. But, 4U I and others are dropping every 2 or so quests. It gets annoying.
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>>284576173
i just got a gem sorry
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>>284559759
Yeah, I wish I could do that with my greatsword.

Be greatsword defender bro.
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>>284576412
For low rank stuff it's not gonna matter much. If you absolutely have to have the best weapons though, this list is pretty good:
http://pastebin.com/w2M7usnX
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>>284560406
>Not hyper ninja kittypanthercougarowlbatdragon
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>>284559759
It's killing me but I wanna lick and sniff that fem bow user's armpits so much

help
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>>284560681
Basically this.
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I've been using the jager-ankh since low rank but I'm beginning to have a hard time and I'm sick of trying to grind high rank gore.

There are other SnS weapons at the trader now that vastly outplay it in elemnt/raw damage and sharpness levels. Is it worth dropping dragon attack for poison?
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>>284562180
>Arena quest
Bring em anyway just to spite the game.
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>>284576819
I feel this hunters pain.
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>>284562469
Depending on the monster and quest he has available it my not be much better than that.
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>gypceros
>he gets low so he leaves the area
>he's all the way down in area 3 on sunken hollow (same map as volcano)
>go there
>he instantly walks off a few meters and flies away
>now he's in area 7 at the opposite side of the whole map

Why is this shit allowed?
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>can hear Rathalos' roar an area over
Did all the games do this?
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The type 2 bow controls aren't so bad, I expected worse from the amount of whining in the internet
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>>284576718

I do have access to making the Venom Monster and Cluster Hammer so I'll have to try making those.
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>>284576971
For SnS you should try to maintain a weapon for every element and every status, and just use your hunt's weakness.
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>>284577162
>Pink Rathian in Sunken Hollow
>Can hear it roar in 9 from camp

I think Tri did this but not to this scale. It'd be cool if they made noises when they weren't fighting that gave you a hint of what area they were in, though. I think more tracking functions is what MH needs to be perfect.
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>>284576656
Won't blocking with the greatsword result in it getting chipped to shit??
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>>284565881
Oh okay, so that's how it works.
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Fwiw you can easily get over 100 hours out of 4U before you start grinding

There is a shitload of content before you get to the massive end game
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how or when do you unlock the honey option at wycoon's so you can multiply it ?
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>>284566625
I feel ya bro. I farmed him for that greatsword 3 times. Felt bad.
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>>284577436
GS blocking is generally only used as a last resort.

GS users are supposed to have their weapon sheathed 90% of the time. The only time it's out is during a draw attack or if the monster is trapped/stunned/knocked down and you have room for a charge attack.

Sometimes you have no choice but to block but you should rarely have to if you're playing correctly. You should always have your weapon sheathed and be on the move looking for openings.
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>tfw everyone calls CB the new scrub weapon
>tfw I can't "get" the weapon granted, I've only tried it for two missions
>tfw I rather use my old and trusty HH
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>>284576819
In Freedom Unite i've had tails get cut off and clip into walls or go up onto unreachable ledges, forest and hills was awful for that shit.
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Okay /v/, I'm having a hard time deciding which monster to fight first. I unlocked the offline urgents for Teostra, Kushala Daora, Akantor (Which I already beat), and Rajang. Which one do you recommend for a hunter who's never fought any of these monsters?
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How do I switchaxe? I know the basic mechanic, but dunno good combos, approaches, etc.
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>>284557074
This is what MMOs just don't understand. People WILL grind their ass off and keep playing your game... If the combat is fun
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>>284567674
Diablos digs through sandstone and Agnaktor through solid obsidian. Why can I pitfall them?

You're argument has merit, but the game lost logic eons ago.
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>>284560630
>>284562354
>>284559617
To be fair in Unite it took me 80 Rathians at 15 minutes each to get a plate.
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>>284578164
Zinogre and Kezu can also be shocktrapped.
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>>284567919
I think he means, more in normal actions given to every weapon class. The speed of turning around, of getting out of animations and dodge rolls.

I can understand why someone would pick souls over MH for that. I play both, but it can be frustrating and sometimes just not fun getting acclimated to the controls after coming from the sweet sex that is Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma.
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>>284576995

>That dual Deviljho arena quest in 3U
>That Duramboros and Rust duramboros arena quest in 3U

Most fun I ever had.

Now you get those xbox huge arenas
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>>284578164

Except a net their legs in place.

>>284578408

Khezu isn't rubbery.

Zinogre can't get shocked when he's charged
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>>284577395
>I think more tracking functions is what MH needs to be perfect.
This so much. It'd be cool if there were footprints or dead [insert herbivore here] bodies around, just like evidence that a monster had gone through there
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>>284578408
Hold the fuck up, I'm pretty sure shocktrapping Zinogre in 3U charged him/didn't do anything
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>>284578408
Doesn't Zin get charges from shock traps? I think I remember this happening in P3rd/3U
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>>284578087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRv1_mGf2R8
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>>284578531
That net wouldn't be strong enough. It's a rope net.
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>>284577963
Just roll for it with your post number, that's how I decide when I get a bunch.
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>>284578549
I've shocktrapped S.Zingore, maybe they consider it dragon energy instead.
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>>284578549
It charges him, but still holds him in place. It only won't work if he is fully charged.
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>>284568963
Sounds good to me.
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>>284577963
Kushala Daora is a pretty cool fight, and he's the template for the other Elder Dragon fights.

Bring a lot of poison stuff.
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>>284569000
So basically gambling addiction? Isn't that what we all hate about F2P game design? Why is monster hunter excluded? Because it just looks cooler?
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>>284578087
>Axe Mode
Forward+X->R :: Attack into switching to Sword mode

X+A :: Up swing

X+A >A->A->A... :: Hack n slash combo

X->X->X->... :: Down chop, side chop, up swing

A+X->A->A->A->...->R->R :: up swing, hack n slash, spinning finisher, switch to Sword mode

>Sword Mode
A->R :: Attack into Axe mode

X->X->X->... :: Down chop, slide chop, double chop, repeat

X->A->X->A->... :: Down chop, up chop, down chop, up chop, etc.

A->X->A->X->... :: Side chop, double chop, side chop, double chop, etc.

X+A :: Phial burst

You can also double chop into phial burst


Cut tails
Hit the monster
Side dodge is your friend
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>>284561001

disgusting
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>>284568759
You're being extremist. It doesn't have to be instant. It's not either or. It just doesn't need to be fucking 3% drops. I shouldn't be seeing 65 Diablos kills in my guild card just so I could get some rare parts for and armor and 3 weapons with 2 upgrades. That should be there because I enjoy fighting the monster, but that's not why it's there.
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>>284578961
I think I got the hang of the axe mode, just unsure what the point of A is, it doesn't chain into anything I think? Also I think standing X is different from moving the stick+X (kinda like a charged hammer).
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>>284558016
I've had shit charge bladers trip me up way more than any fucking longsword user.
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>>284568841
Yeah, I really feel like Sword and Shield and Lance should get some kind of minor hit immunity like other heavier weapons. It's just so fucking annoying playing with other people. And you can't just be like, "hey don't attack right now". That would kill DPS and team enjoyment.
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>>284578925
>Why is monster hunter excluded?
Because it's fucking fun. Yes its a massive grind, and yes it's repetitive as hell. Anyone who tries to deny that is wrong. Regardless, it is a blast to play and that's literally all that matters.
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>>284556346
question for you fine people.
Does the tranquilizer skill on the naja set affect all hunters during a successful capture?
Or is it just a self bonus
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>>284568685
I'm more bothered by some mechanical and time saving features that they dropped when going to 3U.

I'm gald they brought back a lot of the best qualities of P3rd in 4U. Getting multiple items in one gather/carve/mine attempt is fucking great. Also hitting at the peak of the Greatsword swing again is fantastic. Makes tails much more amazing to get again.
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>tfw teostra is in the game but lunastra isn't

for what purpose? I'd rather have a lunastra set late game than a blue YKK honestly
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>>284578961
You forgot to mash X on phial burst for a meter draining chainsaw explosion.
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>>284579514
I'm pretty sure it's just a self bonus. Fuck other people getting free stuff thanks to my selfless armor/gem choice. The niggers who run 25 points in attack shouldn't get my bonuses imho
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>>284560312
>owl
It's a fucking Panther/Wyvern hybrid. Listen to its fucking roar.
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>>284556614
What, have you never played MHFO? Monster hunter has PvP, bro.
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>>284556346
>Beat a monster
>Have to beat it down at least 4 more times
>Even more if you were trying to get a specific item
>Design of the game means that after you've figured out the pattern there is little challenge

Nah can't deal with that. Needs more variables
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>there are people who don't use a full set of stealing 1st stringers

Why even use anything else?
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>>284580194
>after you've figured out the pattern
That's called growth. Almost anything will lose its challenge when you do it long enough.
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>craft myself quropeco armor to go with flower hammer
>fight my first Kirin, dies fast but damn this armor of his looks pretty dope
>mfw its not even better than quropeco armor

How am I even ahead of the curve, quropeco armor doesnt even need rare materials
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>>284580812
I don't have 5 thief palicos yet.

Do you get good stuff from them too or only the basic things?
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>>284580194
I would say try a different weapon, help newbies, do the arena quests, wait for the more challenging event quests, or set up artificial goals like collect every single weapon or get the perfect talisman but maybe the game's just not for you.
Besides, beating monsters without taking any damage is almost impossible unless you cheese it with glitches or 4 player hunts.
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What is the HR acronym for? And how do I raise it?
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>>284556614
Go play Hunter Blade you faggot.
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>>284581221
hunter rank and by doing guild quests.
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>>284581034
>making armor for the skills

If it looks dope, make it pal
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>>284580812
What does that even give?
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