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This game is objectively pure pazaak

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This game is objectively pure pazaak
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musha shaka paka
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Few know the echani form by reflex
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>tfw you'll never go to see Twi'lek dancers waggle their head tails at a shady cantina.
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>>284016779
One does not sweat in the polar regions
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>>284014382
>be me
>at bingo club
>win bingo
>Smirk and say "pure pazaak" under my breath
>collect the $20 prize pool and buy an anime with it
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>"The Jedi... the Sith... you don't get it, do you? To the galaxy, they're the same thing; just men and women with too much power, squabbling over religion, while the rest of us burn."
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Found what you were looking for amongst the dead?
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>>284016254
khhhhaaaa chi koon
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>Mockery: "Oh, master, I love you but hate all you stand for, but I think we should go press our slimy, mucus-covered lips together in the cargo hold!
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>tfw no pazaak mobile game

blackjack a shit
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>it's okay when Obsidian releases a half finished game
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>>284018915
Lucasarts died for their sins
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>>284018915
This. New Vegas is the same. It was a horrendously broken mess at launch. How come Obsidian gets a free pass for releasing unfinished and broken ganmes that need mods to be good yet other companies that actively fix their mistakes are never forgiven.

Oh yeah, Obsidikids.
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>>284018989
Force Unleashed killed Lucasart.
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>>284019151
>Gamebyro
>not having bugs

Betheseda pollutes all that it touches
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>>284019151
>Obsidian game has bugs
>FUCKING UNFINISHED SHIT!
>Bethesda game has bugs
>ITS PART OF THE CHARM!
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>>284019159
its terriblness avenged many a game
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one of my personal favorite moments in games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EtByaOxiwE
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>>284014382
the game was pretty good, except the ending ofcourse.
i sort of prefered kotor though, mainly because i was annoyed at kreia being such a shitty character and the added forces and such felt useless
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>>284020036
>kreia
>shitty character
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>people actually enjoy star wars games
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>>284017567
Man that's deep shit. I'm glad you posted that.
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>>284020036
>i was annoyed at kreia being such a shitty character

bait?
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>>284020125
yes, i'm glad you can read.
i've never understood what's so great about her, care to enlighten me?
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>>284020018
You just know that Jedi Master on Onderon was fucking the shit out of the Queen.
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>>284020209
actually no, i've just never understood the appeal of her. i would have wanted some sort of plot-twist instead of her being so obviously the "bad guy"
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>>284020356
>>284020509

She challenged you and your actions. She made you defend the choices you made.
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>>284020356
the way she spoke
her the way she carried herself
her manipulations of others
her manipulations of you
how she centered her manipulations around you in a clever way.
how enigmatic she can be
her plan
how she breaks some characters by simple words and lies


she is just a well-crafted character. she is pretty full of herself, but not in a comical way, just in a way that a woman who had seen all sorts of fucked up shit would feel so right.

Also the voice actress is god tier imo
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>you will never get a blowjob from Visas while Kreia lectures you from the next room
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>ELDER GOD TIER
Canderous Ordo, Jolee Bindo

>PURE PAZAAK TIER
Atton Rand, HK-47, T3-M4, Hanharr

>STOP LISTENING TO OBSCURE INDIE SHIT TIER
Bao-Dur

>HAREM TIER
Mira, Bastila, Handmaiden, Visas

>BORING TIER
Juhani, Zaalbar, Mission

>EDGELORD TIER
Kreia

>MASTER I CAN'T TRUST YOU OR ANYONE ELSE EVER AGAIN TIER
Carth On(ass)i

>LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOURSELF TIER
Disciple
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>>284020734
her manipulation of me was the thing that annoyed me, she was so obvious with her things and still my character couldn't see it.
it was just so obvious it wasn't funny, maybe it would have made a difference if i would have played some sort of max-int/wis build, never tried it though
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>you will never fuck Mission
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>>284020916
>hanharr in pure pazaak
>kreia so low
>T3 IN FUCKING PURE PAZAAK
>brianna only recognized as harem
>jolee(i'm just old so im grumpy roflmao) bindo in elder god

what an awful list
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>>284014382
I am always surprised to see the majority of people on /v/ love this game. I was so excited for it as a kid but even back then i thought it was exceedingly disappointed and i remember being downright mad about the shitty ending.

Will i enjoy it more now that im older maybe?
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>>284021052
people on /v/ always say it was incredibly obvious. I didn't think it was obvious what she was planning at all.

Like of course it was obvious she was simply using everyone for your benefit or some alterior motive, they literally show you the cutscenes of her manipulating you. It still doesn't subtract from the narrative imo
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>>284020916
>[Carth looks like he wants to talk]
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>>284021271
have you tried the restoration mod?
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>>284021271
When i played it when it first came out I was the same. now I appreciate it much more. It's not perfect by any means but the story is well thought out and connects to the wider scheme of things with kotor1

plus the combat is just straight improved from kotor1
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>>284021125
>you will never force zaalbar to take mission's anal virginity
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>>284021370
No i played it right when it was released on Xbox as a kid and havent touched it since. I replayed Kotor 1 a year or 2 back and enjoyed it all over again but never went on to 2 since i remember thinking it was terrible way back when

and whats this restoration mod?
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>>284019151
lucasarts made them push kotor2 out the door so it could go on sale for christmas. obsidian is also widely known for working with no time at all. they got 18 months for fnv, 12 months for kotor2. if you want to dog them for an unfinished game do it for alpha protocol which they have admitted time and again was a clusterfuck.
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>>284021052
You can push her on it though. You all but straight out say "So your Darth Traya, what's the deal with that?" and she responds by telling you that this isn't the time to go into it, because it would end badly.

Yes, you can't then choose to chop off her head, but keeping the most important character in the game in your party is a concession that needs to be made.
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>>284021481
The restoration mod's for the PC version of KOTOR2, it restores a lot of the cut sequences, dialogue, equipment and cutscenes that were taken out due to time constraints in development.
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>>284021481
there was a lot cut content
Lucasart wanted a Christmas release real bad quality be damned

fan made mod restored a lot content not all but a lot

easy to google
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>>284021271
it was better in every way compared to kotor1 and written light years better. the ending was shit, but thankfully they left a whole bunch of shit in the gamefiles and modders restored a bunch of shit. kreia/traya is one of the best characters ever made.
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>>284016779
Forgot your face newfriend
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>You were deafened
At last, you could hear
>You were broken
You were whole
>You were blinded
And at last... you saw
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>>284020509
>i would have wanted some sort of plot-twist instead of her being so obviously the "bad guy"
They did the whole shocking plot twist thing in KotOR, doing it again would have been retreading old ground, and have gone against everything the story was trying to do.

Also, Kreia isn't a "bad guy". You can argue that she is morally unjustified, but she is never a villain.
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>>284021880
>Step away from him/her
>STEP AWAY
>She has brought truth and you codemn it? The arrogance
>You shall not harm her, you shall not harm her ever...again

>I thought you died in the mandalorian wars?
>Die? No...Become stronger? Yes.

part had some good lines
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Kreia is the defining character of the game. Her philosophy is far more interesting than anything else in Star Wars because it requires you to think about it more. I found Bastila to be more annoying than kreia
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>>284020018
Was it possible to kill off only some of the jedi while leaving others alive? I always wondered this but never actually attempted it.
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>>284014382
Kreia is the defining character of this game. Her philosophy is more interesting than anything else in Star Wars because it requires you to think more.
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>>284023068
>I found Bastila to be more annoying

Well, it's not hard to hate her and her 100% good girl BS. Same reason people hate Carth. She only starts to become good once Malak mindbreaks her and turns her into a cockloving slut.
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>>284020916
>Jolee Bindo in GOD TIER

No.
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>>284019151
Because their games manage to be good even despite the bugs.
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>>284023661
>the only fucking character who realizes the truths of the Force
>not GOD TIER
pls
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>>284020916
>Hanharr not in edgelord tier
His character is literally muh hatred, muh anger.
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>tfw still constantly checking on PSN hoping it will appear there someday

As well as many other nostalgic PS2 titles
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>>284016254
Ajuta?
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>>284023121
It's been a while since I last played it, but I don't think you can. If you kill even one, the others attack you on Dantooine. Otherwise, they die after being cut off from the Force.
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>everytime Sion was on screen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0
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>>284024674
Kotor 1 & 2 never appeared on Playstation dude.
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>>284025146
KE PONA
PONA NA-KI CHOO
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>>284018915
It's not okay but it's still a pretty good fucking game.
Like Stalker and shit like that.
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>>284021370
>>284021481
>>284021718
>>284021728
Brotip, it's called TSLRCM. Get the version of it WITHOUT the droid planet. The vast majority of the stuff TSLRCM adds was stuff from the disk but the droid planet was clearly unfinished, required a lot of amateur work (including voice acting) to "restore" and significantly changes the events of the vanilla game, unlike the rest of TSLRCM.
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>>284018597
Oh, Agent 47, how you understand me.
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>>284020916
Good Characters:
>Kreia
>Ordo
>HK-47

>Bad Characters
The rest of the cast.
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>>284023661

Oh, I get it. Let's play with the old man's head, is it? He's half-senile, he'll forget I said anything
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>>284019740
>bringing up bethesda when first
are you really this fucking desperate
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>>284026368
>its only okay when obsidian releases buggy games
>yes, i agree

Those are the post this reply was for. I think it made sense to bring Bethesda in, since they are another case where its "okay" to release buggy games.
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>>284021126
>brianna
Who? I've played through KOTOR2 like 6 times but don't remember any Brianna.
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>>284027094
Handmaiden's name.
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>>284027169
yeah she always ended up hating me
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>>284025513
Kipuna! Mucho aayla shaka panka.
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>>284026915
>they are another case where its "okay" to release buggy games.
Says who? Bethesda get slammed for releasing buggy games. At least they make their own shit though, instead of just recycling what other companies have already made like Obisidishit do.
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>>284027682
>Bethesda get slammed for releasing buggy games.

So does Obsidian, you fucking retard. So does everybody.
Its just that with those two companies their unfinished piece of shit games still get played and loved.
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>>284027552
JIDABADAWADANIDIBOBO
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>>284027682
It's not often claimed that Obsidian are good at making gameplay, its all the other stuff that goes into a game that people praise them for. It's why their games are usually "fixed" via mods prior to people recommending them for play.
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>>284021880
>>284021908
>>284020509
>>284020125
>>284020209
>>284020734
>>284020564

>liking the author's mouthpiece

Characters like Kreia who won't shut the fuck up are the reason I hate Chris Avellone's writing in games. He always has to have one, and Ulysses is a perfect example in another recent spin off title.

They don't stop droning on, and they effectively exist to deliver an author tract.
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>>284027921
>So does Obsidian
>kotor2
>neverwinter nights 2
>fallout new vegas
>make their own shit though, instead of just recycling what other companies have already made
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>>284027921
Obsidian made FONV and as Black Isle made FO2.

Obsidian are making Pillars of Eternity and as Black Isle made Planescape: Torment.

Obsidian made Mask of the Betrayer (as well as the OC and the amazing Storm of Zehir) and as Black isle made the Icewind Dale games.

Obsidian made Alpha Protocol and as Black Isle Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance

Obsidian made KotOR II with a massively different approach from KotOR and as Black Isle helped Bioware with Baldur's Gate II.

Black Isle was to make several games before the studio went under including:

Torn (you are a hero cursed to be accident prone on a cataclysmic scale).

The original Fallout 3: Van Buren

Baldur's Gate III: The Black Hound

Amongst others.

Obsidian is simply a successor studio that has pursued the sort of projects they've always worked on, and many of the games they were handed to work on like New Vegas were handed to them because they had something to do with prior entries in said games or single handedly put certain studious on the map (Bioware) hence KotOR II and NWN2 and Mask of the Betrayer and Storm of Zehir.
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>>284028393
>>284028393
>kotor2
>neverwinter nights 2
>fallout new vegas
All games that continue projects heavily influenced by the same people who are on the Obsidian staff.
They ARE working on their own shit, they just dont hold the property anymore because loleconomics.
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>>284027094
I feel bad for bao-dur because everyone forgets about his sorry ass.
>>284027543
probably because you spent more time with Visas and started to fall to the dark side
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>>284028659
It was a pain in the ass to get enough influence on Bao-dur to jedi him unless you knew specifically what/where to do things with him.
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>>284028393
you . . . do realize they were given the fallout nv project because they made fallout 2 and were involved in fallout 1 even though they didn't make fallout 1 right?

you . . . do realize kotor 2 was given to them because they published bioware games as black isle and helped bioware out with their early game right?

you do know they were given the nwn2 project because again bioware owed their entire existence to black isle right? black isle was responsible for several d6 crpgs long before nwn1 ever came out, being handed nwn2 was because they are exactly the sort of studio that makes that sort of game in an era that everyone, even bioware, were moving on from them

you do know whether as obsidian or black isle theyve actually worked on their own IPs right? as black isle they closed before Torn came out but it was their own original concept and alpha protocol and pillars of eternity are also their original IPs

you do know who obsidian are right? theyre black isle by another name.
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>>284017567
>"Find what you're looking for amongst the dead?"
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>>284022208
>you're threatening Atton with a lightsaber and i'm supposed to just do nothing? Nooo...
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>>284028820
Why should I care that much about a developer that has yet to make a good and polished game? It's been over 10 years and still Obsidian fans are eating up all the buggy, unfinished games by Obsidian. When will you people wake up and say enough is enough?
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>>284021052
she annoyed you with in character features, not out of character mistakes

making an emotional effect on you in character, whether it is positive or negative, is the sign of a good character
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>>284017567
>George_Lucas'_head_explodes.webm
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>>284028093
RONDA DEE HODODONGA KUBONANGA DEE ONA KONBES CHINPALAMULEE TONKIMBANUNUDEK!
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>>284016254
musha shaka paka is only in the first KOTOR. they revamped the twileekspeak for 2

all of that which is mentioned ITT is actually from the first game
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>>284017567
But from my perspective, the Jedi are evil!
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>>284020916
DOWN YOU GO
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>>284029528
You got it

To this day, I cringe hearing this shit in Inquisition. Carth Onasi is forever in my brain. and of course he was in Mass Effect because Sbarje gonna Sbarje
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>>284029392
Muchujakbahat
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>>284029528
>quest where you find Carth son in the Sith academy
>conversion goes bad and he turns hostile
>Carth shouts DOWN YOU GO as he kills his only son
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>>284020916
>No go-to
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