Hopefully personas that can be used in the real world for the characters interest
>some character development ouside dungeons/inside shops and other places like older Persona games and NPCs with stuff to say
>sub personas or something that lets other faggots use personas instead being stuck with one
I just want Yukari to return.
I used to post in Persona threads saying Naoto and Chie were the best, but I was mostly joking to fit in with other waifuhomosexuals. I honestly didn't think that it really was a thing, and everybody else was just exaggerating "i like this character" "this character is kind of hot" and so on for comic effect.
But now I know better. When I'd finished Persona 3 I felt depressed and apathetic, and couldn't figure out why. Then my mind wandered toward the image of cuddling with Yukari on the couch and suddenly I felt better again. Now, I fantasize about that kind of thing all the time, but only with girls I'd known, so I thought maybe the game was just getting to me and tried to put one of them in her place. But then the apathy washed in again, and it all clicked. I'm in love with a fictional animu character. Yukari is my waifu now and there's nothing I can do about it.
Life is suffering
More diversity in party members, hopefully some adults and college kids
P4's cast were dumb as bricks and the plot suffered because of it. I want the threat to be big enough to necessitate more than a ragtag team of high schoolers playing hero
please atlus make this happen
you could make it so once you start dating her she could kill some of the team members if you don't spend enough time with her.
>Characters 'n story
It was fucking awful, grimdark and stupid.
This, more social links way more and they should be problem solver shit
make the cast nothing like p4
p4 has one of the worst main casts in any game i've played, the only one that's OK is kanji.
P3 had the worst fucking characters in the entire series. I hated going through those awful social links.
Only good ones were the little girl and the dying dude. The fat shit, weeb idiot, jew newman ect can all fuck off.
>male or female protagonist
>story changes accordingly
>changeable hair and clothes
probably won't happen because of anime cutscenes
>negative effects for dating multiple girls
>s. links affect how the characters treat you in the story (your girlfriend acts like your girlfriend, being a rampaging asshole makes people not like you)
that's what I want
Will probably just get more persona, and I'd be alright with that
Characters whose personalities and traits are accurate to their respective arcana for social links and such. I liked Persona 4 a lot, but I feel some characters didn't fit their arcanas well.
That's the exact way I felt about p4 man.
Got to the vidya game level and I just fucked off. Got too boring to continue.
the only reason I kept playing up to that point was for drama club girl and soccer bros
There's your problem, you played Persona 4 first, got used to several dungeons and being able to control all characters, then said "fuck this" on Persona 3 when you had to grind tartarus for hours on end and had to pray that your teammates would do the right moves
You're a faggot.
Besides that, you're right. Yukari was my top girl with Mitsuru being a close second. Yukari seems more like mother of my children material. Mitsuru sex would likely be better.
more focus on gameplay
i don't mind the social sim aspect, it's just the way persona is and there's no changing atlus's mind so i've come to terms with it.
however i would like for there to be less waifu bullshit
more emphasis on characters and all that jazz if you're going the social sim route with your game
cut with the waifu crap
but that's not going to happen because waifu garbage sells really well
persona makes me sad because i like mainline smt, and mainline smt is deadening
It's not bad, it's just left a bad taste in people's mouths with how much Atlus is milking it with fighting games/ remaster/ and dancing games.
Most people also like the characters, setting, story, music, and atmosphere in Persona 3 more.
I don't think it's bad at all but the story was a huge letdown. There was practically no tension at all and the villains really suck, though Amenosagiri looks cool.
>Did Atlus want to release P5 for PS4? Or did Sony beg them?
Probably not, really. Not like Person games or Catherine were ever very graphically demanding. Wouldn't be that hard to up the res to 1080 and
hopefullymaintain 60 fps over 30.
Plus the PS4 is selling really well for whatever fucking reason so that had to help. I can bet you if it had Wii U or even Xbox One sales, they wouldn't have bothered.
>control over your party members
>more enemy types instead of palette swaps
>NPCs and party memebrs change their behavior based on how you treat them and what kind of relationship you have with them
>enough of that harem bullshit
>more diverse portraits that change more than the expression and clothes
>an S. Link with the main antagonist
>goddamn FeMC, for fuck's sake
>would be nice if everyone's design didn't fucking suck too
Kind of related to this, I want character development for at least the main cast to not be contained to their social links. Give them their characterization in the main story, and I'll be happy.
>Baofu and Ulala will never be acknowledged again
i really really dislike the characters
i genuinely did not like any of the characters
the story did not intrigue me and draw me in, i wasn't interested in the story at all
i didn't really like the music
i thought the dungeons were lame and repetitive
the game is too slow paced, this wouldn't be a problem if you really liked the characters but since my case, that's a problem
i had none of these problems with p3
>but p3 dungeons vs p4 dungeons
p3's floors were compact and small, and it was one giant tower. it was very easy to run past enemies and skip straight to the stairs, letting you skip straight to the boss
now you can do that in p4 as well, but them floors big, and there's that door garbage
doesn't matter really, personal preference
point being, everything i dislike is something i felt p3 did at least somewhat right
now you fanatical weebs are going to disagree with me because opinions and zealous waifufaggotry which saddens me
More persona 4 spin offs
Are the SMT games even worth playing? Tried Nocturne but I got bored like in 20 min. I don't even like the social aspect shit, I just want a good history with fun gameplay. But Nocturne's combat system I find it to be slow and also boring. There is also the no-voice acting.
Yeah, I'm not looking forward to any more toasters because we already got the only one that matters. Any more would be superfluous.
>There was practically no tension at all
This right here
>Oh no a young girl has been kidnapped!
>Should we go and rescue her?
>Nah, better do some social links, maybe hit up that restaurant, just chill out for a week or two
>The girl is in critical condition
>"If only we got here earlier!"
The game didn't have any tension because it focuses too much on social links and their links to progressing your team mates
Higher level cap
Endgame takes your broken personas into consideration
More variety in attacks
More romance for characters that you can romance
Ways for other characters to react to and change their interactions with you based on who you try to romance, implementing it in such a way that you can't waifu everyone and that if you waifu certain people, other characters, even teammates will turn cold to you
More endgame content
And finally, decent story
>they will never explore the Kadath Mandala
>no Monado Mandala
>they will never explore the rest of Dreamlands
>we will never revisit the place where Personas are born and instead will have more kawai ugu date sim
I don't ask for much...
>Branching S.Links that provide different outcomes, changes character personality.
>Multiple evolved personae
I feel like branching s.links could play into different evolved personae.
Example, character loses a loved one. One path allows them to accept the loss and leads to a evolved persona with more healing/support moves. One path they get revenge leading to more damaging attacks.
>having S.Links continue to matter after maxing out.
Could just be like a quick conversation from the character every now and then.
They could pull it off.
P4 was thematically weaker than P3. It tightened up combat, direct control was nice, and in pretty much every area it was more polished than its predecessor.
All that turns stale though when the game is supposedly about paradigms and thinking about how people view others and themselves. It was pretty lame going from an exploration of death and how it affects people to identity crisis the game. Atlus must have realized this because unlike P3, you have S Links that don't really touch on the theme of the game.
SMT has a deeper story and battle system, but the learning curve can be a bit too much for some people
Start with 4 and see what you make of that, tbh. I heard it was a better starting off point than even Nocturne. Personally I enjoy the handheld ones more, Strange Journey being my favorite
there is no voice acting because there is practically no talking
there is very little story
it is barebones
it is centered around the gameplay
the combat is fast enough once you get used to it
i don't see how you'd find it boring when it's the same as persona except that you actually get interesting and diverse team mates (fusion motherfucker)
it's combat is really fast
smt is amazing but if it's not your thing then it's not your thing
Xbox360 multiplat is not an excuse anymore. You know they hate Jap voice over if this doesn't have dual audio.
I fucking hate atlus USA so much. They used to be cool for localizing the odd niche games. What are they so fucking shitty now?
Plays like Persona Q. Social aspects are fun, but those should be handled in a completely new way that isn't just copypasted Social Links.
Or maybe P5 won't have any distinction between battles and S.Links
I hope it is cancelled then Atlus announce the team who made Radiant Historia is making another game.
I won't touch the game if it's pathetic tryhard emo shit like P3, still uses that awful calendar system where you just wait for a certain day every month and has cheap lazy hallway dungeons.
that's not what i'm saying though
it makes me sad that you want less gameplay and more dating
i'm not saying there's anything wrong with the dating stuff
but it should be on the side
gameplay should always be the core
yes a good story is important, yes good characters important, yes music is important
everything is important
but nothing moreso than the gameplay
no gameplay no game
why is everyone in persona threads always so extremely hostile? like everyone who's not on the waifu train with you is your mortal enemy or some shit
it's okay to dislike things and have opinions
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE X ABOUT Y THEN FUCK OFF YOU FAGGOT I BET YOU ABC GO BACK TO YOUR Z FAGGET
Just put some Shadow Operative cameo in the game.
Make them really stand out like idiots and have bypasser npc's mention a beautiful foreign girl with blonde hair and headphones.
wasn't a problem for me
i'm too lazy to use tactics but they worked perfectly fine when i needed them to
use the right tactics commands and your party members do what you'd have them do if you were controlling them
it was fine
Play some fucking devil summoner for rad tunes, cool outfits, and bro demons. 2 is way better than the 1 as far as gameplay. The first game's story is way better than the second's.
Also fun combat.
Have a story similar to Persona 3 with the gameplay of Persona 4 but revamped.
Social links affect the plot and character dialogue and not exist in a vacuum outside of story events. Wide range of difficulty settings that bring casual gamers and hardcore/SMT players together according to their needs. Have a battle system similar to SMT 4 where missing or attacking an enemy's strength causes you to lose your party's turn, making you have to think more strategically about your party setup. Take risks and introduce new mechanics that spice up the gameplay, etc.
Q really was a step in the right direction, they should definitely bring back different kinds of melee properties, add physical elemental attacks, physical almighty, magic that can hit multiple times, more ailments, buffs and debuffs, all that jazz.
It's not bad, just different, so at of earlier fans did the like the feel. I like Persona 4 for the animu high school wish fulfillment it was, but I still like all the other ones.
>implying persona doesn't have gameplay
>thinks walking through corridor after corridor makes a game good.
The constant dungeon crawling get boring and the social link breaks it up nicely.
Doors can't use tarot cards, bruh
>walking through a maze
Fuck off to /smtg/
I just want him back /v/
even as a party member, I'd be happy
repetitive dungeon crawling is something you're either used to from ye olden games or you just don't dig
i never said it doesn't have gameplay
you are misunderstanding everything and this is a common problem on /v/
as opposed to stuffing in more dating, they should be working on more gameplay
more also being improving
as in making it better
as in less repetitive
as in finding ways to make it more fun
this is not rocket science
please stop misunderstanding my posts and going on about completely different things
yes the social links are a nice break from the gameplay
and that's what it's supposed to be
a break from the gameplay
a temporary thing
not something you're supposed to devote all your time to like apparently everyone wants
gameplay should be core always
Things that will make you drop P5 like a hot potato
>Animal/little kid/other shit party member
>No one in Persona will ever say "Adios, asshole", "Whoop-ass time" or "Ciao" during battle again.
>removing your hands from inside your pockets
What a fucking faggot.
>Gameplay a bit more like Persona Q, 5 characters, maybe?
>Good S.Links that affect how the characters treat you.
>S.Links that affect the story.
>Bring back Philemon. At least a cameo.
>If P3/P4 stuff shows up, have it be only a small scene,reference or a cameo, nothing more.
>Be able to date S.Links regardless of your gender.
>A good story that's possitive like P4's but at the same time dark like P3's
I dunno what else to ask for, then again, it's Persona so I'll buy it anyway.
M-maybe they'll give us one for the inevitable Golden re-release, right?
>you will never be thrown in a TV at the beginning by Adachi and proceed to have a battle-of-wits social link with him, seeing the story from an entirely different perspective
"Welcome home, big sis!"
are you fucking stupid
This isn't XCOM. It's Persona. It's about dungeon crawling, waifus, social links and jpop.
Fuck off trying to make it some grimdark edgy shit that it's not going to become
>no being a banchou city girl that curbstomps the countryside
>no social link with Kanji where he constantly forgets you're a girl and spills spaghetti
>"Hey Senpai, can I touch your abs?"
>"...Uh. Wait, I mean..."
>"N-no wait that's not what I meant--"
You can't top Mark though
i want persona to be centered around rival school gangs for once
all that banchou fightan hora hora you assholes big badass pompadours and bikes and shit
i love that shit
i want it in persona
mark was white in the western version, wasn't he?
only other niggers i can think of are the p3 girl and guy
Like Kongou Banchou with Persona. Fuck yes.
More than two outfits that the party wears outside of dungeons (not wearing the same outfit every single day outside of school), no more magically appearing school uniforms for dungeon crawling and outfits that you put on characters actually changing their character portrait.
>tfw you will never have a magnificent bastard like Adachi in your party.
Adachi wasn't actually working with Sho
really planning on taking on a crazy teleporting swordsman and a God, saving the world all by himself just because he was fucking bored
Why is he so based?
They're surprisingly hard to find, but yeah, they strike me as being a pretty good couple once they've both grown up a bit.
Because he needed redemption.
Wouldn't mind seeing someone sort of like him in P5.
>sub personas for everyone
Pls no. Call me casual or whatever but I'm playing pq and I hate managing sub personas for everyone.
>Adachi in P5
>Dojima makes an appearance
What is wrong with you? Sub-Personas were the best part of PQ, they let you change the characters to the point you can have pic related.
Not exactly Adachi, but someone with a similar personality at least.
Someone actually good this time.
>never even visited 4chan during my P3/P4 days
>P5 is going to get spoiled left and right before it's released outside JP
>Literally have to do avoid /v/ for a few months because of shitheads
Ya'll fucking suck.
The blue butterflies are a cameo. As fucking vague as that shit is and the fact that literally no one will understand unless they played Persona before 3, it still counts, I guess. There are also obscure references throughout both P3 and P4, but that's not really a cameo more than it is a throwback.
The lack of sustainable AP recovering items was what killed Persona 4 for me after ca. 20 hours.
No, I am not interested in some barely useful cans.
No, the fox is not acceptable.
I just ended up watching the rest on the Gianbomb Endurance Run, which was spectacular.
That's reasonable, though. I'd get a knockoff voice for that too since it's such an insignificant amount of lines. I've got no doubt they'll bring Igor back in Persona 5. It's fucking easy to get Japanese voice actors that sound similar, so I'm sure there's someone out there that can do his Japanese voice. Meanwhile, we'll get the original English VA back for Igor in P5.
Everything works out.
More variety of waifus.
I want loli waifus, I want christmas cake and MILF waifus, I want big waifus, little waifus, waifus of all shapes and sizes.
I want every female character in the game to be waifuable.
Oh, and good gameplay, I guess.
Why can't Persona have good social links and good dungeons?
>It's okay to have shitty randomly generated dungeons when persona does it
That could actually be likely if they are unable to find evidence to convict. From there I guess the Shadow Ops could get wind of it and bail him out to become a superspy with them.
But you don't have to sacrifice dungeon design for atmosphere and themes. See Nocturne, SJ, Persona 2
P3 also had a good atmosphere, there was no reason to sacrifice dungeon design for it though. Considering they're putting a lot of work into P5 they could feasibly have good dungeons
>your girlfriend acts like your girlfriend
I think this is a real possibility. P4G already introduced negative consequences for dating multiple girls, so I wouldn't be surprised to see P5 further that.
I liked P3 and P4 equally.
- More meat to the random dungeons.
- Slightly older cast. Like say, university. But that's probably expecting too much from Japan... they seem culturally fixated on not having adult characters.
- Bit less linear of a plot. If you're paying attention, going to the right places at the right times leans towards certain branches and better endings.
I'd like a system instead of getting random cards to get personas they bring back monster talk and you have to convince the shadows to ally with you and become personas to use them.
Also, dungeons with actual geometry besides just straight hallways and boring shit.
I've never played a Persona game.
I don't get it what's the big hub bub about the series?
>Implying Persona isn't just SMT with social links and pokemon style monster use.
>and pokemon style monster use.
You should try playing SMT games for once.
It's okay to like both series and their spin-offs.
What? How casual can you get? I can understand not wanting subpersonas 'cause it's OP but to call it extra work when all you're doing is what you've been doing except other party members can use them is stupid.
I do wish PQ had a higher cap for the number of personas you can have at one time. 14 is too small, 20 seems like a good number. I kept having to not accept new ones and I had already fused everything for my level cap.
>Play golden for the first time
>two new animated cut scenes devoted to hot springs related scenes
Why is it so easy to piss people off on /v/?
It's insane to me that the second someone likes something popular more than your underrated bullshit, everyone loses their shit and spergs the fuck out.
>Someone makes a Super Mario 3d world thread
>Mad ass Galaxy
shitpostersfeel compelled to enter the thread just to tell everyone how much superior they think Galaxy is when the topic has nothing to do with Galaxy
DS, yes, to a point...anything with 3d tends to run at a low FPS and makes the sound totally shit.
PS2 emu's won't even start since my graphics card doesn't support any shaders.
I do plan to buy the Digital Devil Saga games soon, but they're not SMT either, technically.
But they aren't though
SMT doesn't have the focus on VN elements, and Persona doesn't have the same level of gameplay difficulty and complexity
It doesn't matter what it looks like to the casual observer
Damn son your toaster is even toastier than my own.
Try to play Nocturne somewhere in the future if you can. It's a great SMT experience.
SJ is okay too as it's a magnificent game and sort of main-line, but it just isn't as rockin' out and radical as Nocturne is.
Yeah, I know it won't happen. I just think there's a lot of potential for character development in that type of setting. More mature issues with young adults acting on them, rather than teenagers. Teenagers have a pretty limited range in how they can plausibly react to a scenario, without enough life experience behind them.
I think people might be misunderstanding me here. I was the one that said I like Persona more than SMT. I'm still on topic and poking fun at the SMT shitters that feel the need to boast about their superior games. I've been here since the thread started just talking about Persona shit.
You just named two things that make them different...no social links in SMT and the combat is more complex...that doesn't exactly make them apples and oranges...the basic battle system is the same, it's not like they're radically different like older FF's to something like FFXII.
So the SMT wiki is wrong, then? In Japan they're called Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Trace...they're not SMT.
If they are, then so is Persona 3, since it says Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 on the box in the US, which makes the entire argument of Persona and SMT being different invalid.
They were too big and too dull. Who the fuck wants to slog through school hallways for an hour? Or a shitty straight tunnel? Or a giant eye-bleedingly red night club? Or how about that mall? That sure was fun, right? No, fuck that. The mountain, the park, all of them. There's not a single dungeon in P2 that isn't shit. They don't look particularly good, there's nothing remotely interesting about the layouts and the encounter rate makes the whole thing even worse. They're all shit.
A character as perfect as Yukiko.
Haha, just kidding, that's impossible. It'd be nice if they made the attempt though.
>keep party control
>keep skill cards
>more adult story and setting
>more 3rd year characters
>real world persona summoning
>no fucking Marie
>NO FUCKING CALLBACKS TO PREVIOUS GAMES ESPECIALLY 4 AND ESPECIALLY MARIE SERIOUSLY YOUR WAIFU A SHIT ATLUS STOP MAKING HER YOUR LIGHTNING
>NO FUCKING CALLBACKS TO PREVIOUS GAMES
Did you really find the callbacks in 3 and 4 annoying? They were barely there. The only really bad one was in P3P when they inexplicably went to Inaba and met Yukiko.
Approximately thirty new Personas, a new S.Link/Tarot (Aeon), a new harder difficulty setting, a large number of new social events (summer movie festival), weapon fusion, minor changes/additions to how you can level up your social stats, and a brand new story mode called "The Answer" that serves as an epilogue/sequel to the main story.
In P3P your sports S.Link takes you to Inaba for training camp and you meet middle school Yukiko.
Is it bad I want more bad puns?
I'd say it wins, hands down. At least the Inaba class going to Gekkoukan makes a bit of sense. The country kids going on a field trip to the big city fits. And the only cameos were a minor S.Link character and the school nurse. Big whoop. (oh, and Tanaka, I guess).
The idea of Gekko kids going to Inaba is absurd, and the fact that they meet Yukiko is just the icing on top.
>When I'd finished Persona 3 I felt depressed and apathetic, and couldn't figure out why. Then my mind wandered toward the image of cuddling with Yukari on the couch and suddenly I felt better again. Now, I fantasize about that kind of thing all the time, but only with girls I'd known, so I thought maybe the game was just getting to me and tried to put one of them in her place. But then the apathy washed in again, and it all clicked. I'm in love with a fictional animu character. Yukari is my waifu now and there's nothing I can do about it.
>mfw Junpei was the least raped character on P4U
The return of Persona to not-scooby doo
And thats all
I dont even need new mechanics
Just...dont make it like P4 ok?
Oh I have some great weeaboo shit ideas
>slink with guy
>nobody notices guy
>guy turns out to be a spooky ghost
>spooky ghost is your great grandfather trying to prevent his grandson from becoming a faggot
>normal bullshit until like rank 3
>she starts acting completely different
>same shit change at 6 to 9
>rank 10 shows she's schitz or some shit
I could come up with this shit all day
More diverse cast, better dungeon exploration, and an S-link with a dakimakura
Also more variety in random battle music
An S link where all the girl tries to get you thrown in jail then kills your grandmother
I never could really take Person 3 super seriously, but yeah it definitely was a lot more serious than P4. That go damn bear is terrible, and I miss Fuuka
probably because she is my waifu
My P3 waifu was Fuuka and my P4 waifu was Yukiko, so I guess a qt for the priestess arcana
>Persona 4 sold really well
>I mean holy fucking shit look at all the fucking merchandise and spinoffs and remakes it has jesus christ well
And you idiots think they're going to look back to Persona 2 and 3 with this title?
Good luck with that, mates!
holy shit someone with taste, finally
>Implying the fact that P4 sold well wasn't becuase it got more attention than all the previous games bundled together.
They know that it sold better because the series got popular, not because P4 is a master piece that they must copy eternally.
Also japanese devs generally have standards and actually have some respect for their work.
Are you seriously defending All Night?
Im getting the shit out of here
P4 fags got to a whole new level of shitty taste
>tfw I want P5 to release so we can have P3 vs P4 vs P5 discussions (and the occasional P2 hipsters that appears)
Altho I gotta a feeling that P5 will unite us all in one single big happy family