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When did every villain turn into a generic warlord archetype?

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When did every villain turn into a generic warlord archetype? Have developers forgotten that a true villain doesn't give a fuck about the hero?

>Literally a cosmic horror god.
>Thinks he has to puff himself up or else the players won't take him seriously.
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video game writers were cast out as a whole sometime in early 2000
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>>275665336
Please define "generic warlord type"
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He didn't give much of a shit.
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>>275665543
>Wields huge weapons
>Battle scarred brute
>Commander of small army
>Routinely taunts the player
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>a true villain doesn't give a fuck about the hero

Fuck that

The best villains are those who have an unnatural fixation on the hero to the detriment of their plans.

However, their advantage and control is so great that even when they lose, they get ahead.
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>>275665336
I don't know the whole "Haha your efforts are meaningless!" cliche, where the villain underestimates the hero and then gets defeated like "No, how is this possible!" is worse.

Ultimately villains in video games are defeated so if they do underestimate the hero then the villain just looks retarded.
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>>275665759
He softened up when he merged with Arthas.
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Well cosmic horror gods tend to be the absolute last boss in the game.
It's obvious that this isn't the last xpac in WoW so for now we're killing warlords because Warcraft/BC nostalgia
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>>275665954
nah thats fucking retarded
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>>275665835
You've just described a lot more than just WoW. Maybe you're the problem here.
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>>275666021
>I don't know the whole "Haha your efforts are meaningless!" cliche, where the villain underestimates the hero and then gets defeated like "No, how is this possible!" is worse.
But that's literally what Yogg-saron does.
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>>275666126
That list is absolute fucking bollocks and everyone who posts it should be sent to boot camp.
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>>275666272
no u
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>>275666171
Yogg-Saron kind of makes sense, though. In his mind he is completely unstoppable, he is an old god, where as the player characters are just mortal beings.
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>>275665954
I have no problem with this.

You use the right villain for the right situation/setting. But blizzard have become really bad at this.
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>>275666126

But that list is outdated.

Face it /v/, there is no 'best villain', just villains that aren't used often at the point someone is observing what type of villain is the best villain.

Right now, every villain has a reason or a better reason than the hero or some bullshit like that.

Villains that are evil for the sake of being evil are 'best' right now, because no one does that shit any more. I pine for it.

Eggman is top tier. He's also dangerously genre savvy in the comics, which is awesome.
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>>275666126
>every villain has to be 2deep4u bullshit or its stupid
>hating fun
>watchmen
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>>275666171
I know, but its annoying cause he doesn't give a shit about the heroes because "you are too late" and "i cannot be defeated blah blah blah" I feel like that coincides with what OP is saying.
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Old Gods where always my favourite part of Warcraft lore and I haven't even read any Lovecraft, probably should.

They also had the best boss fights despite only two in the game.
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>>275666393
Compare Yogg-Saron to C'thun.
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>>275666126
>Villain who are the definition of villains
noun
1.
a cruelly malicious person who is involved in or devoted to wickedness or crime; scoundrel.
are the worst villains
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>>275666126
Fuck that pretentious crap. It's horrid writing and undermines the entire role of the hero, shifting it all over to the author's pet villain. The best villains,a re the ones you really want to kill.
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>>275666079
Sargeras will be the last boss of WoW. Tabun
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>>275666583
>>275666624
nothing works if it isn't done well
you can't just have the hero be obviously retarded or the motiviation of the villain be nonsensical
watchmen works because ozymandias having a point makes the reader uncomfortable, or at least it should

though i agree that certain trends have gotten so overdone in recent times that they left a bad taste in my mouth
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>>275666923
Powerlevel too high. It'll never happen unless someone bigger comes along and puts some CORRUPTION over ol' Sargy.
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>>275666752
Dude's always sleeping, he doesn't care about anything.
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>>275665336
When I met Sovereign, I had a fucking erection.
>Oh shit! Robot space Cthulhu!
Then ME2 and ME3 happened.
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>>275667067
But Aegwynn already killed him.
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He also really likes to fuck with the protag.
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