Will "classic" styled lightsabers be a DLC for Star Wars: Battlefront, or will it be the new lightsabers only?
>show a teaser trailer where the dark side villain's saber is unique
>everyone starts running around losing their heads and jumping to conclusions
Was it this bad in 1999? I didn't have internet back then.
Something interesting I've noticed about the villain's lightsaber is that it does not have a typical saber blade. A saber blade is usually pure white and clean looking, whereas this one looks unstable, almost like it's made of fire.
You can use superior medieval swordfighting techniques with crossguard.
What's wrong with the new lightsabers? This migt be reality soon at least in video games. Yes, I know it's retarded but you can't argue that it isn't awesome as fuck.
Who was the bitch in the Clone Wars, or was it Force Unleashed? I cant remember.
Either way her lightsaber blade was normal but the handles were curved and she had 2.
Even the bottom one doesn't work, functionally. Unless the blades are exactly (or more) wide than the section of the handle that emits them, you could still slide down and cut (or at least melt) through the metal in the exact corner.
You guys are not watching the full scene, that's not a crossguard
I think canon is that only a force sensitive person can make a lightsabre as placing the crystal incorrectly would be lethal. I know the jedi use it as a one of the ultimate tests on whether you are ready to leave training or not.
A lightsaber works with plasma it's already a flaming sword an actual lazersword would be nice
We already had lightsaber tonfas in the Force Unleashed, and it looked retarded there too.
I just think a lightsaber staff is as crazy you can get with lightsabers without it being completely retarded.
Fuck, that would actually be cool as shit.
I like the idea of the Sith going to a more European knight aesthetic with their armor and lightsabers compared to the more oriental warrior monk style of the Jedi
YOUR CLAYMORE IS NO MATCH FOR MY SUPERIOR JAPANESE KATANA
ANCIENT SMITHING TECHNIQUES ENSURE THE LIGHT IS REFRACTED ONE THOUSAND TIMES FOR MAXIMUM CUTTING POWER
Really? When I think about it, it makes more sense to me if Jedi were the ones with simple, boring but practical lightsabers and Siths were the ones with flashy, "fear inducing", yet ultimately not practical swords. They just need them for backstabbing really.
Look how fucked up the laser is. It's clearly a ghetto saber using an unstable crystal.
It kills me after all the stupid shit in the prequels and that awful Clone Wars garbage, and now the CATS MUSICAL TIER gaudy Inquisitor blade people are mocking this.
Oh golly, a claymore lightsaber, how excessive.
>lucas publishing retcon's everything extended universe related
>not sure if it was disney's doing or lucas being lucas
>did it specifically so that jj can have more creative freedom
>All this mention about a sith named bane
>this specific lightsaber
Seriously jj gets a completely clean slate and he just re-uses old material?
the vent explanation makes no sense
why not make the blade longer instead
or make the vents go on the other way and end up with a lance
even fucking angling them upwards witcher style makes more sense
>sith named bane
I can already see the shitty edits and memes.
youd think a trained jedi/sith would know how to parry with the laser part.
also it makes a shitload of sense to parry with the guard then just counter with the saber, its so logical that its just weird that not all swords are made like this.
ventress and dooku has curved lightsabers, then there was this bitch in force unleashed.
18 years later. Luke, Leia, Han, and Chewie's kids embark on a wacky adventure to stop the awakened Darth Bane and Darth Zannah.
We will never hear the end of it.
>A non weapon meant to rest against your forearms
>Made of lasers that cut through and burn everything
>But then, everything changed when the firebladers attacked
>It will probably only be that characters lightsaber, much like mauls.
I'd say "just wait until the Expanded Universe gets a hold of it," but then I remembered.
>new lightsaber design is shown
>OH MY GOD WHY ARE THE NEW LIGHTSABERS SO SHIT
It's one thing to dislike the design, but to jump to such a conclusion as to all the lightsabers now look like this?
Next level retard.
>that blaster shot
Killed me anon.
Okay well I think this is what I read. Not sure the actual validity of the article but still. Darth bane making an appeance in actual movies would be odd. Loved the character in the books but I am not sure reviving a character that doesn't exist anymore is a good thing.
I'd use the force to flick the little button off on their saber or just plain rip their crystal out.
While we're at it, why am i not just ripping their spine out their ass and beating them with it?
All this flashlight fight shit when you can beat a man with his own spine, faggots the lot of em.
Tell me about Darth Bane. Why does he wear the mask?
Just watched new hope again today. I was wondering, since the homestead is so open, how are they not at risk of something like a Tusken Raider attack? They look like an easy target really
Why are people getting so fucking angry about this. IT'S CANON. you guys are acting like Darth Maul's double sided wasn't a shock when it first came out.
SUCK MY ASS
>Mauls thing worked
It was also much more dangerous and inefficient to use in combat than a regular light saber
It only existed because of rule of cool
I mean he had to do all those fucking flips and shit just to not cut himself in half when he makes a stabbing motion
You only see one gun really and that's the rifle luke gets out of his speeder. Living out in the middle of no where in tatooine with all those tusken raiders larking about just seems unnecessarily dangerous. Also what the fuck does a moisture farmer do? Didn't really look like they had a lot of room to run a farm there, unless the actual farming location was somewhere else
>sword with crossguard
YOU A STUPID BOI
The actual farm is basically an underground greenhouse designed to hold in the moisture of the artificial environment. They also collect and sell water from the air, which is a form of farming.
See the problem with the star wars universe (and i suppose any outragours sci-fi universe) is that there is no concrete proof or "anchor" to how anything ultimately works.
Take lightsabers for instance. There has been enough on them to describe how they work but there is an equal amount of stuff that completely goes against the idea. Is it the fact that there is no absolute in how lightsabers work or is it that people just make up shit as they go?
the backlash on the silly lightsaber design will hopefully teach JJ to cut back on the dumb EU shit
Fucking thanks guys, after going to the goddamn star wars wiki and trudging through all the autism over lightsabers I ended up finding out that the avatar of destruction in SW is this goofy thing.
Goddamn star wars is weird
>Mandalorian iron, also known by its Mando'a name of beskar, was a near-indestructible iron ore whose only known source was the Outer Rim world of Mandalore and its moon, Concordia. Beskar was notable for being able to withstand blows from even a lightsaber,and was commonly thought to be nearly indestructible
>this movie might be on par with 4 and 6, but not quite as good as 5
>it will stomp the 1 and 2, and be a solid amount better than 3
I have a gut feeling this movie might actually be pretty decent. I mean, it's hard to say from an 88 second teaser, but what we have been shown was already better than what Lucas threw at us in the early 2000's.
What's your predictions?
I bet he'll regret it if the film sucks, like these fat fuckers.
The double bladed lightsaber was the maximum amount of edge they could have ever possibly went with the lightsaber before they went into the ridiculous territory that the new lightsaber in this movie went towards. The double bladed lightsaber at least made sense in being somewhat practical in the star wars world. Darth Maul was a mysterious Sith that wielded on so it obviously deserved a pass. With the way the lightsaber is suppose to work according to the lore, only the double bladed and standard ones would ever make any sense. Yoda's of course because he is small. All what it was is a standard saber only smaller.
There is something like that actually.
it's not a lightsaber
the "guard" is actually made of two vents
If you look at the saber itself you can tell it's not comprised of light, but rather a rushing stream of fire/plasma
>what's essentially spiked armour but the spikes can be turned off
This changes everything.
I love the fact that the biggest issue people seem to have with the crossguard is the 'practicality'. Nigga, when have lightsabers ever been practical? The only reason they work in the movies is because, for some fuckign reason, all the projectile weapons around are slow and energy based; try blocking all the bullets from a modern day automatic rifle with a fucking lightsaber.
Lightsabers exist because it's fucking awesome. In a universe where technology has reached incredible heights, there's this order full of monks with ancient wisdom, space magic and fucking laser swords. Why? Because it's pretty fucking metal, that's why. None of this shit was ever practical, so stop trying to force that shitty argument
So it's like a lightsaber kiteshield?
One wrong move and you'll lop your legs off
But nobody could ever touch you you'd take one look at that shit and go back to your shitty hut and drink blue milk and think about your lif
>Look how fucked up the laser is. It's clearly a ghetto saber using an unstable crystal.
Actually right, the "stupid parts" people bitch about are excess energy exhaust because they dude is a sithboo instead of a real sith
The reason everyone uses slow moving laser based weapons is because armor like stormtroopers wear completely negates shit like bullets. Also you don't need to buy ammo if your gun shoots lasers.
That shit actually made sense in the first few seconds. Then it went ahead and spun. Completely retarded ass design.
While a saber spear does make sense, it actually wouldn't be as practical if you think about it. The lightsaber crystal is too small. And the staff is too long. The staff part can easily be cut rendering the weapon useless. Might as well just use a blaster.
> try blocking all the bullets from a modern day automatic rifle with a fucking lightsaber.
They can just stop them with force and direct them against you since they are just pieces of metal.
Not true. 'modern' armor in the star wars universe is built to protect against laser/plasma based weapons, and is actually useless the second you take a projectile weapon to it.
That particular one has no purpose what so ever. A lightsaber would just cut through the handle part. Whoever designed this is a fucking moron and clearly doesn't give a shit about Starwars, but that could be said about anyone with a hand in this abortion.
How to Abrams land the gig anyway? He's never made a good movie, and he is responsible for the TV show which had literally the worst writing in TV history.
Biology major here. Fire actually is light. Light is just a wave of electrons traveling in a vaccuum. Fire is made from giving energy to electrons inside a molecule's nucleus and ejecting them to outside where they whirl around in a "plasma". So basically light is an electron wave, and fire just when you take the light and trap it around a molecule.
>the dark side villain's saber is unique
hate to break it to you
also the problem isnt a unique saber, its that the design is retarded. the cross guard is pointless since the beams arent anchored directly to the hilt. theres nothing stopping the other guy from simply chopping the metal valves off the thing
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What's the issue then? Lightsabers are impractical from the start, adding a hilt barely changes that
No, it's so lightsabers are actually fucking useful, and look awesome while deflecting shots
Where do blasters even get their energy from? I can't really remember seeing any actually reload / recharge them? Seems like a bigger technological plot hole than a hilt on a lightsaber
Mystical space monks with laser swords are metal as shit, how can you even deny that?
Oh good. Though, aren't the original movies the original canon?
Yeah, they could probably use the force to deflect bullets, but what's the point of the lightsaber then. It makes 'em a lot less useful.
everbody knows the sith weren't good lightsaber builders
they use shabby materials and methods thats why their laser emits red light
didn't you notivce how Anakin mistreated his lightsaber(s)? losing and destroying all his weapons like it was just a piece of metal? sith do this all the time they don't give a fuck
jedi using the lightsaber like a samurai his katana, its their second soul they take their time to build a good and solid lightsaber using only high quality crystals and materials and still they manage to balance the force around theira strong lightsaber
you think qui-gon couldn't make a lightsaber so strong it would obliterate all other lightsabers? he could but he didn't want to because the lightsaber is not an instrument of empowerment for the jedi unlike the sith who build them as strong as possible to show their power
Anyone trying to argue to the point of armor practicality needs to be reminded that MODERN ARMOR, TODAY, that soldiers wear don't do shit to actually protect them from bullets. The helmets most of all, those things will get fucked if someone decided to shoot you in the head.
>everyone gets anal pained about cross guard light sabers
>They've been a thing for years in the EU
Thank god we completely forgot about all that "fanfiction" so that we can let hacks like JJ Cuckbrums create "New and innovative" ideas.
Good thing. So glad. So happy. Such a good idea.
Wow revan looks awfully dark edgy and somehow animu in that picture
Just because shit is impractical doesn't mean they should go overboard in telling people to suspend their disbelief. This new saber does exactly that. It's way to overboard in it's ridiculousness.
Yeah actually this is suppose to be how it was. The games probably use ammo for balancing purposes.
Movies portrayed differently. Well only for the main characters. The Jedi did get raped hard by projectiles in Episode III even though some tried fighting back.
>"Yoda, it turns out that there's more sith out there than we thought and some of them are pretty great with lightsabers, maybe we should divert some of the higher ranked knights should be sent after them rather than the padawans"
>"No, the knights and masters will continue to lead squads of clone troopers even though I've repeatedly insisted we're not soldiers. I myself am going to go and stand near, but not participate in, a battle on Kashyyk for no readily apparent reason other than I get to meet Chewbacca."
This is the problem with Lucas just makes shit up as he goes along but then claims it was all planned out from the beginning.
Alright, you tell me what's practical about having your main weapon being a sword in a universe where you'll almost exclusively be fighting enemies armed with projectile weaponry
>Mystical space monks with laser swords are metal as shit, how can you even deny that?
You're a faggot for replacing the word cool with metal, there's not one person who does that who isn't a megahomo it's like if you wrote everypony in your post
If he's the main character I have no interest in this shitty movie.
I already saw Django unchained, I want a Star Wars movie that features an attractive cast not a multicultural cesspool of uggos.
>people think the crossguard is useless or dangerous to yourself
If you're practiced with your weapon (which Siths and Jedis obviously are), then it'd be no problem.
Not to forget how crossguards are extremely practical for swordfighting and finger protection
>inb4 hurr it'll cut through or its lore breaking!
Neither is true, there are lightsaber deflecting materials and the sword model is canon: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crossguard_lightsaber
Point is, it doesn't break any rules and its a good idea, though it seems a bit silly.
>It's way to overboard in it's ridiculousness.
It actually isn't, is pretty tame compared to other EU shit.
-A lightsaber can deflect Blaster shots back at the shooter
-Can be used to cut through almost any wall or door
-Can be used to cauterize woulds
-intimidating as fuck slowly walking toward a man blocking all his shots
-blocks other lightsabers
-makes you easily distinguishable as someone not to fuck with.
Just a few
>"everything fictional needs to be chocked full of niggers because black people are snowflakes because my gender-studies professor told me so"
So, why is so hard to outfit every clone battle rifle with a light bayonet? Since the fuckning thing is lightweight it shouldnt be a problem
Which cut better, lightsabers or HF swords?
And then there's this kind of retarded bullshit.
>they use shabby materials and methods thats why their laser emits red light
>you think qui-gon couldn't make a lightsaber so strong it would obliterate all other lightsabers? he could but he didn't want to because the lightsaber is not an instrument of empowerment for the jedi unlike the sith who build them as strong as possible to show their power
I don't get it. You say they used shabby materials then you go on to say they build them as strong as possible. So which one is it?
Obi-wan handily blocks a flechet gun in the clone wars miniseries by using the force, I can't see how a regular gun would be any better. He also blocks a flamethrower with the force in the same fight.
To deflect blaster fire?
You have a sword that can fucking cut literally ANYTHING.
The weapon isn't practical to anyone except fucking jedi who know how to use it.
This is why you don't see anyone else other than a jedi or sith use a lightsaber.
Why do you think luke was training with a lightsaber the moment he was training?
Yeah, those are valid reasons.
Ah, now that I could agree with. Personally though, it doesn't really violate my suspension of disbelief - if anything it just reminded me more of a crusader sword, sorta reinforcing the notion of the whole religious aspect of the Jedi / Sith
You should watch Metalocalypse, I think you'd enjoy it lots
I can accept that
Yeah, but as I said before this, the reason that blasters fire like they do is BECAUSE that way lightsabers will be able to deflect them, and thus making them viable. They thought up the idea of glowing laser swords because it's awesome, and then they had to make up some excuse as to why guns wouldn't just fuck them up royally. Same goes for >>274023372 on anything "deflecting blaster fire"-related
>but what's the point of the lightsaber then.
rewatch episode 1 where qi-gon jinn thrusts his lightsaber into the gateway until it melts away
THAT was the real power of a lightsaber we got a glimpse of
shit was so cash and i missed such lightsaber action in all the other movies
This, he has an intergalactic struggle for being opressed and discriminated and has to fight and unite the galaxy with equality and tolerance, you see, the dark side is a clever metaphor for racism and the black guy not being in the dark side is a clever jab at reverse racism. And the female character is all covered up, you think it's becuase she is in the desert but you are wrong, a whole set of hidden meaning is waiting to be discovered in another stroke of genius from the noble crusade that is gender equality.
You just don't get it.
Can we even be sure they come from crystals now? I mean the EU is no longer officially canon, and I don't remember the crystals being mentioned in any films
I remember in clone wars the animated series they went into a cave where the jedi's picked a crystal to make their lightsaber and shit.
But for the main timeline, passing down lightsabers makes more sense.
they're supposed to be rare, but in the extended universe it seems everyone who owns a robe has stumbled across the rare crystals.
also there's supposed to be a multitude of colors but apparently the sith are really uncreative and always go with the traditional red=bad crystal while the good guys go for blues and greens
I want to see more yellow sabers
I don't think even Disney could really say. Basically I think they just want to make the new trilogy without having to worry about keeping in line with the clusterfuck that is the EU.
A good rule of thumb for me is, if the new movies contradict it, then its not canon. If they don't, its fair game
>Literally every other lightsaber fight ends with someone losing a hand
>The actual reason swords had handguards in real life was to guard hands
>"New lightsaber makes no sense."
Ya okay faggot.
It's a good action movie but it's a shit star trek movie.
At least Abrams manages to make people have emotions in his films. 50% of the prequels are two people standing in a room slowly talking to each other and not moving around very much because the actual physical set is tiny and they don't have much room, and 50% is completely CGI scenes where things actually move around and do stuff.
At least Abrams can, for example, have people running around on a physical set and talking in something other than expository monotone.
>That's rad as hell
Purple is real, yellow is CGI
Look how much yellow he's using
Making the hand guard a laser is looks dumb. At least maybe the new fight scenes wont be kung fu movies since thats clearly a European longsword instead of a katana like all the other movies.