THANK YOU BASED DENUVO

Yup watch PC sales plummet because of no try no buy people not buying and doing free word of mouth advertising

>>273002547
>PC game sales plummeting because pirates can't get games for free
>store sales plummeting because stores decided to hire security guards
>cars sales plummeting because car manufacturers decided to add door locks
Wow, thieves are truly delusional...

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>>273002820
>What are test drives
Stay retarded champ.

>>273002820
>Not knowing how piracy works.
Wow, shills are truly delusional.

I'll use it when/if the SSD shit gets cleared up.

>>273002246
I don't get this quote.
Didn't Gotham need Batman right then?

>>273002820
piracy literally, literally boost sales.

>>273002246
>lords of the fallen comes out
>pirates can't play it
>barely gets discussed
>drops out of steam top 100 a week after release
DRM is truly the way of the future.

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>>273002246
Where is the crack?
Huh? Chinese stopped bragging about their "90% cracked but still waiting for those 10%"?

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>>273003042
Denuvo said it's bullshit
Devs said it's bullshit
Users said it's bullshit
What else do you want?
Are you retarded?
The whole thing is fake and pulled out of pirates ass.

>>273003273
I thought that happened because the game was mediocre as fuck, even shit?

>>273004713
No, it's because it wasn't advertised at all.
DA:I is all over Youtube right now.
People simply doesn't know about this game.

>>273002820
Im not going buy a game I cant try especially in an era where lying to the consumers is common practise.

>>273002246
>Implying pirating is a bad thing
FREE MARKET FREE ECONOMY

>>273004554
uh, you realize that was a random user on a chinese site saying that

it was the equivalent of a pirate bay user

>>273004787
>DA:I is all over Youtube right now

Which means I should go and buy it asap, because it's such an amazing and enriching experience, totally worth shelling out 60 bucks for.

>>273004961
Guy who started the rumor about SSDs was also a random user and for some reason everyone and their mother believed him. Just a reminder.

>>273005060
It means, people will see the commercial over and over again. Mother who knows shit about video games will buy something from a commercial for her children right? The Christmas are coming.

>>273002820
>FIFA, DAO and Lords of the Fallen sell terribly on PC
>Valkyria Chronicles topping Steam chart
>Steam eventually becomes weeb central and dudebro games become console exclusive

Truly a future worth fighting for.

>>273002246
Guys, has RELOADED released the 1.3 Far Cry 4 crack?

>>273003002

A demo.

>>273005396
>complaining about weeb games on /v/
Uh no it ain't son

>>273005428
There's 1.4 by Ali213, it's working

>>273002246
>meanwhile, on Steam's top selling videogames...

>>273002934
>three shitty games
Oh boy I'm not sleeping tonight.

>>273003179
Yup. That's why AAA companies always prioritize PC market over consoles... right?

You are fucking delusional and don't know shit about how market works.

>>273002934
It's a shame I can't pirate those two EA games.
I really want to see EA dead.

>>273005520
You better not, you shameless pirate!

top kek

>>273005520
>dem grapes

>>273005609
Is this the only thing EAdrones come up with these days?

>>273005520
>I never wanted those grapes anway. I bet they tasted terrible.

>>273002246
Guys, remember, sage boes both in email and subject fields.

>>273005486
Thank you.
Has Unity released a meaningful patch?
I might torrent it if it's not as broken as before.

Yes, thanks for making a legit purchase play much much worse.

I wish there was a crack that would disable the whole nonsense so I can get better performance.

>>273005461
demos are virtually non existent for AAA games

>>273005670
>supporting EA

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>U-UNCRACKABLE
>BASED ANTI-CONSUMER SOFTWARE AMIRITE GUYS?
>EL DARK KNIGHT

Denuvo rep plz go.

But goys, I want to see this industry crash and burn, I want to see EA, Activision and Ubisoft dead, I want this whole thing to end and start anew.

>>273005668
>Grape Escape 2: Graped in the Mouth

>>273005713
This.
>spend money on an i7
>buy games
>get worse performance than the game would have if cracked

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>>273005814
never ever

>>273002934
>FIFA15
yes I'm killing my self because I can't play a sports game.
and for the other two I can live without. Gonna play 'em when they're cracked.

>>273002246
Sage, report for spam, hide.

maybe I'lll be pissed in the unlikely case some actually good game has securom 2.0
But right now it's protecting me from wasting my time with absolute crap.

>>273004916
Actually it's about ethics in gaming journalism.

>>273002246
No, the hero PC gaming needed was Steam, and it's already saved.
We've got MGS5, GTA V, even goddamn Dragon Ball, and did we need a DRM for that?
Nope, games sell just fine.
Nice try though.

>>273002246

Thank you Denuvo.

Now nobody can blame true PC gamers for all the piracy that wretched console scum is doing on their moms e-machines.

>>273005531
>playing AAA games
Denuvo shills, everyone.

>>273006110
>>273006159
>>273006223
>>273005910

>grapes.jpg

>>273006297
you're just buttmad you wasted 60€on a shitty game.

>>273006297
>wanting to support the industry in it's current state
>not wanting it to crash hard
>not wanting to see companies that pushed paid online and DLCs like Microsoft, EA, Sony, Activision and Ubisoft dead

I'm sorry, but if I can't pirate the games, I just wont play them.

/v/, why do you keep thanking this faggot for raping you in the ass?

But how does this shit benefit me, the consumer

>>273005531

AA games are the best games, they don't lean on 10 million dollar marketing budgets to sell themselves to the true fans. Pretty much all of them are on PC.(except the ones made by or for Nintendo)

>>273005814
If all those big publishers are out of business, lots of IP will be dead. No more Diablo or Far Cry.

>>273006423

Console fans have been thanking manufacturers for raping them in the ass for like a decade. Now they thank DRM programmers for fucking people in the ass.

They just love supporting cancerous business models.

>>273006487
You are saying that as if it was bad.

>>273006437
It helps you using that expensive i7 for something like scrambling game file code.

>>273002246
>Pirates just need to be forced into becoming a paying customer

And they wonder why games like Tales of Valkyrie and Witcher 2 do amazing, while CoD and AssCreed do piss poor

hey, my game can't run. Is it software incompatibility? Surely it is not the game programers fault. They would never take my hard earned dollars and give me a shitty game that crashes on anything I play it. Oh wait! The game thinks I'm a pirate! Oh, I better spends 24 hours with tech support at this defunct company to convince them I actually bought this game.
>I actually bought this game....

>>273003179
Not all the time. Bad games get pirated heavily and affect sales but good games get sales boosts.

Case in point:
Divinity OS. The beta could be pirated and was in a very playable state that was pretty much like a 12 hour demo yet is considered Larian's most successful game to date.

>>273006159
Steam is a DRM system, you moron.

>>273006694
>CoD do piss poor
CoD:AW just raked in 8 billion dollars for Activision. How is that piss poor?

>>273006223
DRM is not the answer to piracy.

>>273006447
>
AA games are the best games, they don't lean on 10 million dollar marketing budgets to sell themselves to the true fans.

Completely agree with you.

>Pretty much all of them are on PC
Yep.
But they also get on Steam, PSstore or XBLA when they get the chance.
Those three are a real sales boost.

>>273006798
But it benefits me, it gives me cheap games, easy access to mods due to steam workshop, easy access to free to play games.
What does Denuvo do for me?

still no Dragon Age crack? I hope this game will be the flop of the century

yes mad

>>273006437
It helps the economy. Thanks to non-intrusive DRM you will see better games in the future.

>>273006878
No we won't.
PS4 and XONE cannot be pirated, and they still get tons and tons of shit broken games.

Why do you retars keep replaying to these fucking threads.

>>273006856
It protects Steam DRM from being cracked.

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>>273006878
Buyfag here. If you really think every pirate is a missed sale than you are hopelessly deluded.

And "helped ecnomy" doesn't benefit me, the consumer. it pits more money in the pockets of publishers provided IF pirates buy the game. (which they wont)

>>273006970
*replying

>>273006803
Talking about on PC. Sales for CoD, AssCreed, and anything EA are constantly doing worse and worse. Which I honestly wonder why they're so focused on PC piracy, when Console piracy is just as relevant. Then again it's probably just a convenient excuse to boost up their console consumer base, and dump money into R&D that'll eventually go nowhere.

>>273006982
And how does that benefit me?
I don't give a fuck about the companies I buy the games.
For me, they could go bankrupt after I get the game I bought.
The only honest company is CD Projekt, or the ones working on Nintendo.
The rest can rot for what I care.

Yes, Denuvo, thank you. Now literally nobody will be playing Dragon Age, and I am perfectly pleased. You couldn't pay ME to support a Bioware circlejerk.

>>273006996
Killing theft is important for the capitalism to work.

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>buy a denuvo game
>it kills your SSD

Thank You Based Denuvo™!

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>>273007086
And why would I want capitalism to work?
It's a shit system that crashed hard due to how fucking broken and corrupt it is.
Give me a single reason to support EA, Activision or Ubisoft.

>>273007069
>The only honest company is CD Projekt, or the ones working on Nintendo.
Bullshit. You believed their marketing teams.
>For me, they could go bankrupt after I get the game I bought.
No more patches, no more new good games.

You are the reason why we won't have any good titles in the future.

Denuvo is actually a good way to weed out the leeches from piracy.

If you can't wait a month, tops, then you deserve to buy a plastic, generic, Sweden-approved AAA+ EA blockbuster.

>>273006776
>Bad games get pirated heavily and affect sales but good games get sales boosts
So to clarify:
Piracy of bad games harms sales.
Piracy of good games boosts sales.
In other words, this system works beautifully, and only retards and shitposters are against it.

>>273007121
>it kills your SSD
fake disinfo

>>273007190
>No more patches, no more new good games.

Funny how we had 3 gens of excellent games without patching.

>>273007190
>Bullshit. You believed their marketing teams.
And you believed Denuvo's marketing.

>No more patches
It's PC, the benefit of it is that we can fix the games ourselves, and even improve them. See Watch Dogs.

Also
>no more new good games
That will happen regardless if piracy lives or not.
This industry is broken, and PS4 and XONE proved that even if piracy doesn't exist, shit, broken games will keep coming

>>273007171
>single reason
You want more of their game? Some of us actually like game like CoD. I bet you have a soft spot for some title published by EA or Ubisoft.

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>>273007190
>current video game companies are too big to fail, irreplaceable, and after they are gone, nobody will start new ones

this fucking guy

>>273007171
I want you to support DECK13/CI Games as they are to small to dictate the rules.

>Give me a single reason to support EA, Activision or Ubisoft.
Support American companies if you are an American.

>And why would I want capitalism to work?
Because communism doesn't work.
It's the best system we know.

>>273007249
Yeah pretty much.

I never hear of good game developers moaning about piracy but I always hear shitty developers/publishers moaning about it.

>>273007308
>we can fix the games ourselves
Unless nobody wants to patch the game for free.

StarForce took over a year to crack. Unless they actually release good games protected by Denuvo I don't give a shit.

>>273007371
Communism is not the only system besides capitalism, you retarded amerifat.

>>273007308
>This industry is broken
The industry hasn't changed a bit.
You are the one who is broken.
Your age influences your view.

>>273007259
kills is the wrong word here, it simply degrades your ssd memory blocks 10000 faster than than normal non-Denuvo games.

>>273007350
>Some of us actually like game like CoD. I bet you have a soft spot for some title published by EA or Ubisoft.
I had.
EA's was Battlefield, and they destroyed the series by releasing 3 games in a row broken as fuck, that needed 1 year worth of patches.

>Ubisoft
It had, Assassin's Creed, in fact, after pirating AC4, and playing 2 hours, I bought it, physical edition even, but with AC Unity they just killed the entire series with single game, also Watch Dogs, which is literally the iPhone of videogames: marketed to hell, but dull as fuck.

>Activision
The Transformers games, but nope, they decided that the studio making them was better put to making previous-gen Call of Duty ports, and they decided to kill that series as well with Transformers Rise of the Dark Spark.

Sorry, but I have reasons to wanting to see all of them dead.

>>273005531
Most idiots aaa games cater to are on consoles because that's the platform for madden and cod.

Piracy does not make a major difference except for small developers, as far as I know the only developer truly fucked by piracy are the guys who made world of goo.

>>273007491
Sure it hasn't.
I remember playing GTA SA and buying the online pass and some DLCs for it, along with waiting 1 year so they could patch it to make it playable.

>>273007491
>You are the one who is broken.
that's actually true, i am fucking broke, that's why i wait for the crack

>>273007350
>some of us actually like CoD

If this is not bait then this is definitely a grim future we live in.

>>273007371
>Because communism doesn't work.
lol

And capitalism does?

>>273007368
And after they are gone, nobody will start new ones.
Pretty much. When small studio asks for 60$ for their game you refuse to buy it because it's so expensive. Small studios need more money to produce games. Large studios can offer dumping prices. Your greed will eventually destroy every small dev studio that even tries to release a new game.

>>273007627
It's neo-/v/

>>273007371
But capitalism has proven that it doesn't work either.

>>273007491
>You don't actually own your own games anymore
>Games are shipped buggy and broken on purpose
>Budgets increase while quality decreases
>Integrated apps and 3rd party features that cost money
>Day 1 DLC
>Overpriced DLC
>Singleplayer microtransactions

Yeah, we're just a bunch of old men angry at change.

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>>273002820
people are actually this retarded...I'm baffled

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>>273007495
It's a lie, you fucking moron.

Also,
What is SSD Firmware?

>>273007646
Yes. Not that guy, but take it from someone who lives in ex-commie country. Things are so much better in capitalism.

>>273007683
>Your greed will eventually destroy every small dev studio that even tries to release a new game.

>no more Gone Home

What have we done, goys.

>>273005060
No , it means that even without pirates you can get it for free on youtube.

>>273007646
Yes. At least when compared to communism.

Proprietary DRM malware is not a good thing.

This is something that is malicious and bad for customers/users.

>>273007605
It's not companies fault that idiots buy DLCs and pre-order games. Don't forget to pre-order Witcher III right now. They are just doing business. It's the clients who got dumber over the years.

>>273007683
Wow, those are some cool predictions you're pulling right out of you asshole there.

>>273007646
Yes. I make tons of money on game dev studios stock shares. Life is good.

>>273007704
>But capitalism has proven that it doesn't work either.
Works for me.
Git good.

>>273007834
Pre-ordered the limited edition of The Witcher 3 for PC months ago.

But it's not my fault either, why would I have to put up with the shit of a bunch of retards?
I've done nothing to deserve getting kicked in the balls everytime I buy a game.

The industry wants me to buy their games?
Okay, don't release unoptimized broken PC ports, and don't harass me constantly with 20$ DLCs.
Then we have a deal, until then fuck off.

>>273007495
its been disproven. Only one site has posted about claims, and no one has been able to repeat that many writes. Everyone is showing a low number of writes/accesses after hours

>>273007683
No. Look at Grinding Gear Games for example.

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So Denuvo has never been cracked before?

If that is the case i might just buy from some cheap russian site

>>273007976
Dude, look around you, the world entirely is in ruins.
Communism broke 25 years ago, and capitalism broke 6 years ago.
They don't work.

>>273007732
>Yeah, we're just a bunch of old men angry at change.
Yes you are.
Costs of producing games goes up.
If you don't like something in the game, don't buy it.
I'll repeat.
DON'T BUY IT AND DON'T PLAY IT.

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>>273002246

>>273007743
did you see the statistics for LotF?

>>273007796
I was referring to google Ads before every video, but yeah. Every game is available on YT and twitch, from start to end.

>>273008052
Tell that to my country's growing economy. Git gud

>>273007993
well fifa 14 used an old version of denuvo that was uncracked for 40 days

the new denuvo hasn't been cracked for almost 70

>>273008052
obvs the solution is more capitalism

>>273007751
There's no such thing as a communist country on Earth, the USSR was never even communist.

A communist country:

1) Has no such thing as money.
2) Has no state. That means no government.

Did you country have either of these things? If so, it was not a communist society. Communism has been done by most human societies for most of human history actually, it just wasn't called communism.

TLDR: Most people have no clue what communism is, and often think communism is about the very opposite of what it's meant to achieve.

>>273008053
Costs goes up?
Then proof that those costs to something.
How is it that AC Unity costed millions and millions of dollars, yet it's one of the worst PC ports ever made (probably the worst) and it's absolutely broken?
Costs don't mean shit in quality, and if higher costs don't mean higher quality, they can go broke for all I care.

>>273007813
>DRM malware
And what is this?
Denuvo does jack shit to my PC.
Also, it's not DRM. SteamWorks is the DRM protected by Denuvo.
How come you are not bashing Steam for being a DRM platform?

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>>273008107

wow it's nothing

>>273008193
Because Steam gives me benefits.
Denuvo gives me none.

>>273007979
>But it's not my fault
>Pre-ordered the limited edition of The Witcher 3 for PC months ago
Yes it is.

>>273008147
>That means no government
Communism is about equal distribution of wealth who do you think is responsible for that distribution and maintaining balance.

>>273008147
>1) Has no such thing as money.
>2) Has no state. That means no government.
This is complete bullshit. That's not what communism is at all. The first thing can be true in communism but is by no means a requirement. The second thing is downright the opossite of what communism is.

>>273008193
>How come you are not bashing Steam for being a DRM platform?
>/v/ not giving shit to steam every day and night for being DRM

Stop, just stop.

>>273007993
already proof that denuvo works

>DA:I
>FIFA 15
>Lords of the Fallen
Thank god I'm not missing out on anything worthwhile

>>273008251
No I am not, because I'm not buying DLCs or paying an online pass.
CD Projekt has shown me that they do not disrespect users.
In fact, they didn't even add a DRM.
I could just get the game, and play it, yet I bought it, and a lot of people will.

>>273008053
>Don't buy a shitty game, don't pirate it
>You can't criticize it!
>Don't buy a shitty game, pirate it
>Your opinion doesn't count because you didn't pay!
>Buy a shitty game, get fucked over
>You're just entitled!

Face it you big, fat faggot, you're not happy unless everyone gets fucked as hard as you do, and that doesn't fly around here.

>>273008296
lol Americans

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>>273008052
I disagree.
You should get good at the game of life.

>securom is uncrackable!
>starforce is uncrackable!
Okay.

>>273008369
I don't care if you disagree.

If you don't like their games then don't buy them
If you like their games then buy them
If noone buy their games they'll die out
If people buy their games then they'll survive and produce more games
That's how capitalism works in this case and it works fine.

>>273008348
Retard. I'm not an american, I'm from eastern europe. I know what communism is first hand.

>>273008223
But it does. It allows you to play the game before pirates. Just as the god intended.

>>273008053
>there are actually people out there that defend these corporation

>>273008403
Stop trying to convince people if you aren't willing to be convinced. It makes you look like an asshole and guarantees you won't convince anybody.

>>273008193
I think Steam is proprietary freedom denying DRM malware too. I think Steam is bad, but I use it anyway because it's a sacrifice I chose to make to get to the end goal of what I want.

In terms of proprietary software, Steam isn't the worst thing in the world either.

>Denuvo does jack shit to my PC.

Malware just means malicious software. This is software that's primary goal is to do malicious things against the user of it, and restrict their freedom.

Thanks Denuvo, you will show the publishers that piracy is free advertising

>>273008337
>In fact, they didn't even add a DRM
Inb4, register to GOG to receive patches/updates.
>B-but it's not DRM

>>273008053
>angry marketer

It's not my fault your shitty company dumps boatloads of cash into expensive name brand VAs, hires some hollywood hack to do the score and directing, dumps a shitload of money into the marketing and DRM, and then blames me for pirating the piece of shit. Maybe you should actually pay the developers, hire good artists, stop making everything a 60$ checklist and create a meaningful consumer base as opposed to paying a 3rd party to viral shit that has nothing to do with the actual game via mountain dew and doritos. Maybe if we had demos before release so that feeling of being tricked into buying a AAA piece of shit isn't 100% confirmed. Same thing with review embargos.

Now I can't attest for everyone, because I'm one singular anon. But why would I want to go back to being a paying customer for EA, Activision or Ubisoft? What incentive do I have? I don't even pirate their games, nor pay for them, and they still make it very well known that they don't like me as a consumer. And because I don't buy into their hype and anti-consumerist policies, then I'm not welcome.

>>273008540
Just hope that you don't get BTFO-ed by sales figures.

>>273007036
EA is telling that only reason their games don't sell on PC to the investors is because of rampant piracy.

They cannot just turn around and say "remember that piracy thing? we made it up." They have to find a way to stop the piracy for the investors.

I'm sure EA itself will hack denuvo if nobody else does it.

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>>273002246
>tfw all the pirates racing to crack Denuvo for bragging rights
It's happening.

>>273008339
You can judge the game based on videos.
Who the fuck forces you to buy at release?
You can only criticize if you bought the game.

>>273008478
Oh, yeah, sure, same like North Koreans know first hand what it's like to live in a democratic people's republic.

>>273008481
No, I have bought games since forever because pirating games is a hassle, i've always played games at the right time.
So, what benefits does Denuvo give to a user that has always bought games?

>>273008501
>Stop trying to convince people if you aren't willing to be convinced.
Then what's the Denuvo thread?

>>273008557
It doesn't need GOG even if you buy it from GOG.
Hell, i've gotten The Witcher 2 for free from GOG, and uninstalled the GOG downloader and it works perfectly.

How long did it take to crack gta 4?

>>273008617
I know I won't.

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>>273008638
>You can only criticize if you bought the game.
AHAHAHA
No.

>>273008052
>Centrally planned, debt driven spending and governments throwing money at every problem
>capitalism
Choose one

>>273008510
>do malicious things against the user
Denovo does no such thing.

>>273008638
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j6_sc14Ne4

Is this game good?

>>273008661
Okay, you are retarded, good to know I can stop wasting my time on you

>>273008392
They always get cracked in the end. What's more Denuvo shit doesn't allow for any modding, so fuck them.
>>273008251
>preordering a game from a dev and publisher that have proved themselves over and over again is bad
>>273008557
>arguing yourself into a corner this hard

Thanks again /v/ for proving how retarded most of you are
https://soundcloud.com/the-theme-song/fuck-this-shit-im-out

>>273004675
One mate did the check, he said it was fine also. Greater activity than usual, but nothing horrible.
Two of HIS mates however reported the same issues. It seems to be inconsistent. Just because one guy posts a screenshot without increased activity, doesn't mean the problem is non-existant.

>>273007504
>Most idiots aaa games cater to are on consoles because that's the platform for madden and cod.

Exactly. They cater to those idiots because they won't even think about pirating a game.

AAA companies produce games to get revenues.

It would be fucking stupid to put your money in a clever game that is going to get pirated when you can make a dumb one that will sell thousands (or millions) of copies.


>Piracy does not make a major difference except for small developers...

And for us. The players. When companies grow big enough, they end up switching sides in order to appeal to te console market. A market that, as you know, is dominated by dumb-fucks. So they start dumbing down their games, and making games that stupid cowadooty and madden people would buy.

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>>273008478
Unless you lived in some immaginary country, you've had state socialism, like us and everyone else behind iron curtain.

>>273008632
Yes and they fail so hard.

>>273008854
>What's more Denuvo shit doesn't allow for any modding, so fuck them.
false, more bullshit by pirates

only doesn't allow editing of the exe, texture files character files and script files should be able to be changed

so far the only games that use denuvo run on frostbite anyways so they can't be modded regardless of drm

>>273008686
For you it's neutral.
It only hurts pirates.

>>273008881
Welp, 0 denuvo games for me then.

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>>273002246
>Denuvo comes along and stops piracy
>pirates no longer hyped for games with Denuvo
>pirates not hyping up the game
>pirates not discussing the game
>pirates not watching youtube/twitch related to said games
>nobody seems to care about game
>game sells like shit
>t-the pirates a-are ruining the s-sales!

>>273008638
>You can judge the game based on videos.
>You didn't actually play it!
>Who the fuck forces you to buy at release?
Nobody. That's the point. And you won't change that. If I'm interested in a game, I'll pirate it first. If it's good, I buy it if I can, or at the very least recommend it to people. If it's shit, I won't buy it, and I'll tell everyone why it's shit.
>You can only criticize if you bought the game.
You literally can't do a single thing to stop me. Kill yourself you cancerous faggot.
>>273008686
You mean this one? Well I learned the SSD rumor was false, but I'll still say it's going to do nothing but discourage people from even considering the games it's on. Which it will. That's a proven fact. You might get a few idiots, but the majority is still going to look at an unpirateable game as one you just can't trust to be good in this day and age.

>>273008686
>It doesn't need GOG even if you buy it from GOG.
Wait for the release.

>>273008994
Then why should I start sucking Denuvo's dick like you guys?
Hell, I buy games, but seeing how people act here, it makes me want to pirate games.

>>273008846
If I fuck you in the ass and tell you that's capitalism, would you let that first-hand experience with capitalism inform your entire opinion on it? What if someone told you that capitalism has a definition and it doesn't include ass-fucking, would you dispute that based on your experience?

>>273009012
You aren't missing out on much

>>273008710
For what it's worth, my vote is on your side. Though it's not really because of free advertising, I refuse to support new forms of DRM that might/might not hurt my SSD without solid information.

>>273009068
Give me the source then.
Oh wait, you just pulled it out of your ass like the pirates pulled out of their ass the 'kills SSD' crap.

>>273008854
>>preordering a game from a dev and publisher that have proved themselves over and over again is bad
Yes it is. Pre-ordering is always bad.

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Meh. These proprietary anti-piracy things never end well.
It will hurt their earnings, people who weren't going to buy the games aren't going to anyways. They just miss out on selling merchandise. Someone will inevitably crack the denuvo system there is yet to be one form of online security that actually works. Hell, even banks aren't safe.

SecuROM was also up in your face about it's tyrannical DRM capabilities and we all know how that paying customer raping train wreck went.

>>273008287
>Communism is about equal distribution of wealth

There is no such thing as money, I'm just going to remind you of that.

>who do you think is responsible for that distribution and maintaining balance.

The community. Capitalist societies have evolved where if you took away law enforcement and government there would be chaos, but if you think in terms of how a tribal society would have handled things several hundreds of years ago, that's basically how.

If you were living in a Native American tribe a thousand years ago, you can kind of figure out why there wasn't much "crime", and when there was how it was dealt with. You can also imagine why everyone was okay with helping out a little for the community.

>>273008296
>but is by no means a requirement.

Yes it is.

>The second thing is downright the opossite of what communism is.

No, it's the downright opposite of what most people falsely believe communism is. Most people think communism is about being oppressed by a government or dictator, when it's ironic because it's actually closer to complete anarchy.

>>273008796

>I never ate at this resturant, but I've eaten a steak before. Here's my review.
>I've never been to this hotel, but I saw a commercial on TV. Here's my review
>I never saw this film, but I did hold a camera once. Here's my review
>I've never played this game, but I saw webms on /v/. Here's my review

>>273008881
Any proof besides your word?

>>273008913
Who gives a shit about names and labels. It's what the reality of trying to do communism looks like. The "communism" you are dreaming of won't and can't ever exist. It's on par with getting high and saying "dude... it would be great if everyone like, had enough of everything and shit"

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>>273008841
By being proprietary software it is freedom-denying and gives unethical control of the users to the owner of said software.

By being proprietary software whose sole purpose is to even further restrict your freedom and only has negative effects, is even more malicious.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/opposing-drm.html

>>273009167
Man that laugh he does as he's sitting down.

>>273009060
>if I'm interested in a game, I'll pirate it first. If it's good, I buy it
You are the insignificant minority. Most pirates don't buy the games they have stolen.

>>273009180
These dont apply because piracy lets you try the whole game. Its no different of an experience than playing a purchased copy. Thus people who pirate a game have the right to give a review of it just the same. In fact you just ruined your own argument because most AAA games today don't let you test or look around before you purchase.

>>273009180
>See food being cooked from 1 month old materials
>Welp, I need to try it first I cannot prejudge.

>>273008841
I heard the same thing about securom

>>273008147
Exactly, they were socialists countries.

The logic is that after capitalism, there's a socialist revolution and then Communism.

Why Communism never happened? Because it doesn't work. A economy without private means of production is a economy doomed to fail.

People who critisize capitalism are people who learned capitalism from a marxist point of view, which is incorrect. Those economic problems that we have today are mostly (if not all of them) because goverment makes dumb decisions and they blame "free markets" or something else so they can still make dumb decisions.

>>273009367
Prove it.

No.273008453
>That's how capitalism works in this case and it works fine.

Totally, I mean, since we're talking EA, the people that supported DAO as a the successor od Baldur's Gate it was announced to be by buying and word of mouth totally didn't get fucked backwards when DA2 was released.

The people that thought that they were supporting developers totally totally see it coming when EA fucked Infinity Ward for Modern Warfare 2 anyway.

"Support the company" doesn't work long term for those companies, because all only interested in maximum profit and are not in any way interested in the long term.
If they can fuck you right now they will. Then try to present some excuses and PR the backlash so they can go at it again later on - see the Sims. See Sim City. See Dungeon Keeper cellphone.

That's how capitalism works.

>>273009370
Videos and review sites are more than enough to determine if you will like a game.

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Is there any word from any groups that this is being worked on or any progress towards cracking it?

>>273009367
You're wrong.
http://pastebin.com/BNVKAR9i
Not, "It's my opinion that you are incorrect."
You're provably full of shit.

Do you sincerely believe your ignorant opinion changes facts? It doesn't.

>>273009484
yeah they all gave up and are in complete despair, some have killed themselves

source: same place where I found out denuvo kills ssd

>>273009484
Scene groups aren't very open on what they work on.

>>273009339
>By being proprietary software it is freedom-denying
Motherfucker, the whole gaming industry works because it's proprietary. People don't buy free as in freedom software. You can't make any serious profit by selling free software. Creating games costs money.

So is this the end for pc gaming?
Should I move to consoles if I wanna play games for free?

>>273009558
I know they are of course working on it you retard. I'm asking if they specifically gave their word on it, I'm interested in knowing what progress has been made.

>>273009629
Are you denying my freedom, motherfucker?

>>273009484

No more free games for you, faggot.

>>273009234
You want them holding a video camera to the monitor for 30 minutes of footage to make sure shit can't be doctored?

Even if I post irrefutable evidence that is notarially certified there'll be a million people thinking the claim is fake and people are just buttmad.

>>273009661
literally saw a post last night on chink p2p that said denuvo is literally uncrackable and they given up

>>273009441
>Those economic problems that we have today are mostly (if not all of them) because goverment makes dumb decisions and they blame "free markets" or something else so they can still make dumb decisions.
That's kinda fair when that dumb decision is to let the free market handle it. Oh yeah, sure, let's deregulate, let's privatise, what's the worst that could happen, it's not like we had regulations for a reason.

>>273009467
Piracy rate in Poland in one of the highest in Europe. Almost nobody in Poland buys games. It's a fact. That is why most polish dev studios spend all their money on marketing in the US.

>>273008369
so you got lucky on some stocks and now you think you're "good at life"?

give me a break. wall st is the world's biggest casino. you don't "git gud" by winning big at a slot machine

>>273009541
You can't pirate games on PS4 and Xbox 1.

>>273009741
>Country with broken ass economy
>Pirating games because its not a necessity
>Proof that pirates don't buy

I'm asking again, any proof?

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you know it's just sad there are open source games out there I can download for free, on linux, that are more fun than any game released with your DRM.

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>>273009682
>3 games use a retarded encryption system
>PIRACY IS FINISHED!!!

>>273009741

You niggers earn less in a year than what a nigga hobo in a month worth of cans.

>>273009658
Considering the new Xbox and the PS don't use retarded as fuck hardware any more, I'd rather wait on an emulator. Might be a year or two though.

>>273009629
>People don't buy free as in freedom software.

A sever license for RHEL costs hundreds or thousands of dollars to install on one computer. RHEL is still free software though. Ardour is another example of someone making money off selling free software.

>Creating games costs money.

Yes, sometimes the community does make games though and release them for free, expecting no profit. Games like Xonitic or Super Tux Kart.

>>273009673
Yes. You are free to not buy the game.
That's it. If you have moral objections to the product, don't buy it.

>>273009483
Why are you shitposting? I sincerely want to understand what drives you to say stupid shit on purpose. To make people mad? I mean, I guess you find it funny? I'll never get it. If you're going to respond with more stupid shit like, "You just can't argue it :^)" don't bother, because I'm not responding to it.

>>273009902
I wont buy it, I will download it for free.

>>273009629
>You can't make any serious profit by selling free software.

You totally can, but not in the current structure. Which most publishers don't want to change. Can't really, by sheer amount of inertia from their size.

But then one terribly disagreeable truth is that a structure for which that could work would be much closer to the game as service model than the game as product.

>>273005814
>Ubisoft
Chew dirt for these lies, you scullion, rampallian. Ubisoft is actually a better company of them all.

>>273009693
>Even if I post irrefutable evidence that is notarially certified there'll be a million people thinking the claim is fake and people are just buttmad.
Some evidence is still better than none.

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>>273002246
>people can't pirate anymore
>people now pay money for stuff that it's probably not worth paying for
>they pay devs for shit
>devs make more shit because they realize it works
>cancer grows
I don't know why people like that.
Pirating before buying is the best you can do.
I would have wasted a lot of money for some shit games.

>>273009975
Get a load of this goy.

>>273008928
and they will continue to fail until they succeed.

they only need to succeed once, then what's done is done.

you'd be an idiot to think any software on this planet will never be cracked.

>>273009776
>so you got lucky on some stocks and now you think you're "good at life"?
Yes I am. I'm good at doing this.
Fun fact : people who create W3 threads are the ones who owns CDPR shares.

>>273009741
Nigger, if you get like 300-400 euro per month(which is minimum wage in eastern europe), you wouldn't spend that shit on games.

>>273009813
Thank you, page 20 of a search engine. What's your point? That retards are getting tricked into buying shit games like Unity? Yeah, that's the problem that piracy would help solve.

>>273009895
>RHEL
RHEL is not a game.

>Yes, sometimes the community does make games though and release them for free
That's why they are still poor.

>>273010069
Yeah but a bottle of alcohol is like 2 euros over there, prices are low as well

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>>273009989
>people can't pirate denuvo games anymore
>people just keep pirating games that don't use denuvo
>games using denuvo sell like shit
>companies using denuvo die

>>273009975
Did they finally learn to stop using horrible DRM?
AC2's was awful and uplay's used to be awful, I don't know what kind of shit they're pulling currently.

>>273002547
Your inflated sense of self-importance is sickening.

>>273009951
No you won't. That's the point.

captcha : over, upsappi

>>273010069
>which is minimum wage in eastern europe
because eastern europe is one country with the same minimum wages, right?

>>273010182
Would be good but people are weak and buy the games instead if they can't pirate it.

>>273009180
But I played the game you daft cunt.

>>273009902

See you're missing another point: it makes them irate that we can pirate. Which is a fair backlash when it makes us irate that they can fuck us up whenever they want because they hold the production means.

Pirating is not purely an economical endeavor. It's also a politically motivated one. It's a big fuck you message sent back for one received.

>>273009859

If it proves that it takes long enough to crack..it'll be adopted more. Product life-cycle counts, a lot.

"Piracy is mainly a service problem"

- Gaben

>>273010153
>RHEL is not a game.

Good thing I was replying to "People don't buy free as in freedom software", not "People don't buy free as in freedom games".

>>273010056
>they only need to succeed once
Every Denuvo implementation is different for every game. If it takes 100 days to crack one title it will take 100 days to crack another.

>>273009989
Newsflash, devs have always made shit for a quick buck and the problem got worse with piracy because everyone had access to the games and only a small fraction would pay for them so devs had pump shit out on a very frequent basis. This way they have to create a customer base that will stick around and pay for their products so they will have to be careful with what they pump out. You might not like it but Denuvo will spring us forth to a new golden age of gaming.

>>273010245
you have a point, minimum wage in Bulgaria is like 170 euro per month

>>273010180
unfortunately Polskis are paying as much as EU for games.

>>273009989
>>273010182
If you ever made a habit of pirating games your opinions on them have been skewed by money from the get-go. Money should have no bearing on your evaluation of a game.

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Will there ever be a crack for dragon age guys?

>>273010180
Okay, I don't really know about Poland, but I lived in Latvia on minimum wage when it was still like 250 euros. It's hard to live like that man, buying games isn't even an option.
>>273010245
300-400 is average I think.

>>273010364
The difficulty is in the initial method it was done, not the individual interpretation.

>DRM free Witcher sales go through the roof
>CD Projekt make millions selling DRM free games through their service gog.com
>Customers compliment how easy it is to buy and enjoy games
>check pirate bay for gog.com games
>barely anyone pirates them
Why do large corporations hold on to these aging DRM necessitous conventions?
Piracy didn't kill the music industry, piracy didn't kill the film industry and piracy hasn't killed the gaming industry.

>>273010313
>It's also a politically motivated one
Yes, you should fight communism at any cost.

>>273009367
>>273009741

One country is your proof, thanks professor. Go fuck yourself.

>>273010381
>Denuvo will spring us forth to a new golden age of gaming.
No, as i said it already it makes it worse.
Sure, it would be better, if people would buy the games they pirate, if they like it but you can't have everything.

>>273010541
hundreds of thousands of people pirated TW2

me inlcuded

>>273010442

Should have kept to the USSR and you could have bought steam games in glorious Rubles.

>>273009168
no offense but you don't know shit about native americans if you think there was no crime within a tribe.

don't forget these guys scalped their enemies and would raid other tribes constantly. They also had a very very bad gambling problem.

>>273010606
You saying things doesn't make it true. At least he cited a legitimate page to verify.

>>273010482
>that pic
so feminists are plebs that don't know about the superiority of DFC?

>>273010573
>One country is your proof
yes

>>273010343
>Gaben
He's just as bad as everyone in the business. He implement DRM and use Steam Sale to lure out gullible costumers to use his locked down platform and simultaneously destroy the market. When Steam is the one left standing, you'll see jacked up prices like you'll never see before.

>>273010628
meh, I can still buy Russian keys just fine

>>273010673
>You saying things doesn't make it true
You saying things doesn't make it true

>>273009859
GTA V will use Denuvo, i hope MGS V too

>>273010606
Well, that's something you'll have to live with. Plenty of people bought it to support a good developer though and they came out on top despite you being a huge edgemaster. How does that feel?

>>273010381
>devs have always made shit for a quick buck and the problem got worse with piracy because everyone had access to the games

You mean that because people could easily download a game at no risk to see if it was shit, developers made more shit games ?

That's an argument that totally holds water.

If anything, no piracy is the best context for releasing mediocre shit.

>>273010679
>superiority of DFC?

fuck off you closet homo

>>273010557
Yes, consume, buy!

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>tfw pc piracy is turning kill

>>273010780
You can look up statistics of pirated copies with ease m8 go look.

>>273010849
>GTA V will use Denuvo
That's a lie though.

>>273010889
Yes. I'll do that.
Life is easy. You suck.

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>turns out to be uncrackable
>only legit buyers can play
>publishers pat themselves on the back
>because nobody can pirate, hardly anyone talks about it
>MUH SALES
>it must be second hand gaming!
>they institute mandatory "online passes" for everything
>MUH SALES!
>it must be we aren't charging enough money!
>throw tons of microtransactios and DLC in everything, even single player games
>MUH SALES!
>it must be those filthy youtube videos!
>then DMCA all the lets plays, parody videos, game guides and so on
>MUH SALES!
>we must be wasting too much money on development
>downsize everything and spend more on advertising
>MUH SALES!
>we need more money! lets put ads in the game!
>they throw in unskippable, unblockable ads in every game PRESS [X] TO COCA-COLA, LIKE MARS BARS FACEBOOK PAGE TO ACCESS THE NEXT MISSION
>MUH SALES!
>it must be all those misogynists!
>we should listen to the SJWs and do what they think

Then every AAA game was copy-protection locked, non-transferable, micro-transaction filled, DLC addled, rushed garbage filled with ads with zero internet exposure outside of approved media where every protagonist is a non-binary, pansexual, demiplatonic, omniracial, HAES feminist fighting the patriarchy, just like SJWs said they wanted.

Yet there is nothing more AAA publishers can do, they have run out of money, alienated everyone except SJWs, who don't even buy games anyway, and with no recourse, they liquidate everything and run with the money, leaving games a respite.

>>273010849
>GTA V will use Denuvo
Bad news, it won't.

>>273010606
What is your point?

Witcher has sold more than 6 million copies. Lords of the fallen is yet to sell shit.

>>273002934
The only one I'd like to try would be Lords of the fallen just because its new and I have no idea if its shit or not. Dont care about the rest.

Also

>playing soccer games
>ever

>>273010265
That's yet to be proven, since the only three games to use denuvo so far are ones that nobody really wants to play that much anyway.

>>273010978
Wait I didn't want to post that image. Goddamnit.

>>273007086
Yes protecting the interests of the bigger parts will save capitalism, just like when those in debt had to give their house to the banks thus crashing the house market, yep worked great there.

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>>273009989
>any ideas how to attach it?
Best post in the thread so far

>>273011018
>not playing glorious Football Manager

it's like you hate fun

Piracy actually benefits the companies.

If your game is good, piracy is going to help spread it, and it's going to give more people than before an opportunity to try it and become a fan of it, who never would have otherwise.

You can make far more money off having one really good popular title that has a strong community behind it, then you can with making some turd with extreme DRM.

Some companies give away games for $0 because they release that getting the largest and most loyal fanbase they can is more lucrative.

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>>273010978
>Slipery slope falacy

>>273011034
But if it really fucks up SDD and HDD then i don't even want to buy them.

>>273010978
Every AAA and AA title will use DENUVO at some point and people will still buy millions of copies.
Not everyone has autism. Some of us just want to play the game.

>>273011034

Dragon age is shit, but you must be blind if you don't think there's very high demand for it

>>273010606

Yes, and *I* pirated it, AND I bought it. The two aren't mutually exclusive, however much the DRM supporters want to believe.

>>273010628

The USSR was as much communist as the the USA are the Land of Freedom. Just because you claim something doesn't make it true.

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>>273010979
guarantee you both Witcher and GTA will use Denuvo if it remains uncracked by their release dates

Remember these devs aren't the ones making the decisions, if the board of directors or the CEO of a company sees a DRM that is uncracked and a major PC release looming they will go for it

It's not even like this is proprietary DRM like uplay or origin is, it's for sale

>>273011104
>falacy

>>273011012
Lords of the Fallen is a new title.
They sold enough copies to make profit and work on another game.
How many copies of Witcher 1 were sold?

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>>273010880

>hating on delicious sweet and pure lolis
>calls others homos

Dayum son, I got bad news for you.

>>273010948
>>273010979
damn, why they won't use it? denuvo is the saviour of pc gaming

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>>273010606

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Why don't you just delete Denuvo?

>>273002246
So here we are. /v/ really is the shittiest
I don't even want to know if that's posted by a legit retard or at troll, anyway too much idiots fall for it instead of ignoring and saging.
let's go to infinity

>>273011104
more like suck on my slippery slope phallus am i right?

>>273011074
Weak people who can't think of the way to make good money can die. Free market.

>uncrackable DRM appears
>internet starts rallying a boycott against games that use it
>internet starts spreading misinfo about it destroying hard drives
I didn't think you faggots could get any more insufferable and pathetic, but you're managing to do that pretty well so far.

Is having to pay for games, which now commonly go on sale for as low as $10 nowadays, that hard to bear for you? How god damn poor are you? If you're that poor, why do you have all this time to play games you can't afford? Shouldn't you be working harder?

>>273011012
>TW2 has been on discount many times
>TW2 has a 3 year lead on LotF
>LotF sales numbers haven't been released yet
Nice try, pirate-kun, but you are 100 years to early.

>>273011212
>no big tits

That's not a lolicon fantasy you idiot. You need giant breasts to appeal to pedophiles.

>>273011212
>delicious sweet and pure lolis

fuck off homo pedophile

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>>273002246
How anti-pirates think pirates thing
>I can't pirate the game?
>BAAAAAAAAWWWWW BETTER GIVE THEM MY HARD EARNED AUTISMBUX
How pirates actually think
>I can't pirate the game?
>Oh well, you win some and lose some. I'll pirate a different game until a crack comes out

every time a system is declared uncrackable every cracker on the planet worth his salt starts work on it

>>273011137
There's not a demand high enough that people who wouldn't usually pay for it suddenly change their ways.

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>>273011308

>inb4 mods mods mods

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>>273011179
>who we work with
>ford
Nic is kill

>>273011241
>People aren't pirating ancient/shitty games using years old torrents
Oh wow, you sure showed him.

>>273005814
The only one a crash wouldn't kill is nintendo.

>>273011104

The thing with the slippery slope is that it's not a strict fallacy - it's not a logical, argumentative fallacy: it can be perfectly true and representative of the situation.

If you don't think it is, then you're going to have to try and show why it isn't.

>anon doesn't like game, decides not to buy game
>HURR GET FUKT PIRATES

Supporting EA that is including playing their games aren't doing the industry any favors

>>273011337
You refuse to play for a game you might like just because you have to pay for it? Theres not even risks involved anymore with the reviews and videos abound.

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>>273011110
It doesn't.

>>273011241
>none even have a hundred seeder except rogue legacy

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>>273011307
Lords of the fallen isn't even on the steam top seller list.
For a new game you expect it to be there.

>>273011294
exactly, piratefags are pathetic

>>273011538
Even youtube LPs/streams are getting bought these days.

>>273011179
>Witcher will use Denuvo
nah

>People telling me I can determine if I like a game from videos
>Fell in love with Souls series from LPs and lore discussions here
>Finally get to play it and it controls abysmally to the point where I cant stand it and stop

I mean sure I looked up the controls even, but I didnt know everyone else had such a tolerance for sluggishness and inconsistency. Plus those menus holy shit.

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Ever noticed how only THE shittiest developers whine about piracy?

Both AAA and indie.

Could it be that competent developers offering quality product are not afraid? I wonder why? Could it be that even motherfucking pirates can tell their friends or the internet about the game they enjoy?

Could it be that pirates actually help with the marketing of good games? Aren't piracy whiners afraid of the bitter truth about their shitty product by someone without buyer's remorse or paid review?

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>>273011290

>>273011179
Both GTA5 and W3 are confirmed not to use it.

Also, W3 is going to be on GOG.

So yeah.

>>273011179
the PC version of Witcher 3 will not have any form of DRM.

>>273003076

They needed Batman to be the murderer of Harvey Dent, because otherwise all of the hope the city had just built from the thwarting of the Joker's plans would collapse if they found out the Joker had corrupted the pure, incorruptable White Knight that was Harvey Dent.

The people of Gotham deserved a self-sacrificing hero like Batman, but for the time being, it was in their best interest to make him hated.

>>273010180
Only applies to food and such.

It's amusing that proponents of the free market are pro-DRM when intellectual property laws are at their core anti-free market state-enforced regulations and piracy is the epitome of a truly free market of ideas.

>>273011656
It was in it's first week and it is a new IP, if you look at that list most of the games are from well established franchises or on discount.

Where did the kills SSD thing start anyway?

There is absolutely no proof that it's detrimental to SSDs and in the meantime there is countless proof that it doesn't fuck SSDs.

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>>273011656
It was for over 2 weeks.
Right now it's on 83/100.
The game sells most copies on PS4. Deal with it. Steam is irrelevant. It also doesn't count the number of physical copies sold. I for one prefer buying a physical copy of a SP game.

>>273011721
lots of marketing and console exclusives has a better profit to effort ratio than making good video games

Joke's on you, EA, a shitload of people just don't trust you anymore. We'd buy your game for the multiplayer if we liked it, but after your recent piles of dogshit, the only people who bought your game are the crazy motherfuckers who just love what you've been shitting out lately. The rest of us look fondly back at DA:O and pray for a proper sequel but wouldn't DARE just buy this game on launch. Not after Dragon Age 2. Not after Mass Effect 3. Not after The Old Republic. Not after Sim City. Not after The Sims 4. You have absolutely no credibility and the only way your games can do well now is if you let us play them for free and find out if they're any good. There's literally no other way.

I hope Denuvo gets cracked right after a big price drop or something so if we like the game we can buy it on discount.

>>273011721
Ever noticed how only THE piratefags, the breathing thief scum, whine about uncrackable DRM?

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>>273011538
>Theres not even risks involved anymore with the reviews and videos abound.
Did you get permission from your handler to use the computer?

>>273011179
>Witcher will use Denuvo if it remains uncracked by their release dates
This shows just how deluded you are to the point of insanity.

>>273011721
Post examples of shitty devs whining about piracy.