PATCH IS UP SOME NIP STREAM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?

I'm going to marry Minfilia!

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GET HYPE

DANCE THREAD

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>>269551327
Me too.

>>269551206

>actually playing this shit game when WoD is around the corner

seriously? weebs are more deluded than I thought.

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>>269551380

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HAPPENING

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>>269551380
Hype

>>269551440

haha WoD shills are hilarious

>>269551429

That's a dude in drag.

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>>269551440

FOX CLON IS MY WAIFU

STREAM IS ON

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/123940-DATs-FFXIV-Patch-2.4-We-re-Going-Mining!

data mine thread

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>>269551440
>Still playing WoW in 2014

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>>269551429
Do trannies ever get good facejobs?

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MINNA SAN KONICHIWA

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>>269551661

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>>269551541

Sooooo.... Whats going on guys?

OH GOD

HE'S SPEAKIN MOOOOOON

FUCK.

no subs.

>007
Based

>>269551661
>>269551734
How is one man so based, literally savior of FF

>>269551639
"almost no" isn't close enough.

Blizz 3 is objectively the best spell to open with, as it does same damage as Fire 3 and you can shoot more fire afterwards, thus having a higher chance of proccing firerstarter.

FUCK My Bladder is not ready

>>269551760
Nvm just looked at stream name

>007
>SUPER DRY

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

>>269551649
>Dreadwyrm Claws
>Determination : 37
>CriticalHitRate : 37
HAPPENING

>>269551659
They can give them.

>>269551734
>all those qts

literally my dick

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>>269551649
>All dose Dreadwyrm weapon stats


THANK YOU YOSHI

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>>269551649
>True Codex of Ice
>No Crit
Another patch of welfare/Coil mix and match

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>>269551380

>>269551871
WE'RE GETTING A REALLY DRIED UP SUPER AGENTE CLASS

>>269551889

>has less fucking crit than my nexus claws

Shit tier to be replaced by next relic upgrade ASAP.

>>269551871
SUPAH
DRY

>>269551649
>linking to a BG thread on 4chan

Oh god this can't end well.

PACK IT UP STREAM IS OVER

>>269551839
10 minutes until it actually starts, you have time!

>>269551994

It also has like 5 more weapon damage. 6 crit is literally nothing.

>>269551994
>next relic upgrade

Relic won't be i135 for quite a while. Not like anyone will be getting final turn drops anytime soon anyway.

>>269551871

it means that last night I james super dried your sister

>>269551994
Det is worth more.
That said, an i135 relic will have a ton more secondary stats it seems.

>>269552148
>>269552185


So will the relic weapon when they release it's next upgrades. Coil weapons always have been shit, from looks to usefulness.

After hitting a certain amount of HP (I got like 8k PLD, 9k WAR , this outside of parties and foods)
I was advised by someone in my fc to start going STR, as stacking even more VIT is for scrubs who can't manage cooldowns and do shit dps

STR also mitigates damage somehow or something?
tldr Tanks going STR accessory legit Y/N?

Vjera is my goddess

>>269552321
>Coil weapons always have been shit, from looks to usefulness

You have absolutely no idea how stats work in this game, do you?

>>269552357

Put even one point into STR and you might as well play WAR like the trash who spread that lie.

>>269552357
Yes.
Fuck tanks who go full VIT, especially outside of coil.

Is the game very focused on team battles or can you do solo stuff?

>>269552396
Wrong board buddy, mods plz

>>269552321
Isn't relic weapon ideal now since you can allocate the stats however you want?

>>269552463
assmad Paladin detected

>>269552321

High allagan weapons were bis until 2.38, and that's only if you didn't make a poorfag nexus. Allagan weapons were also generally better than zenith.

>>269552486
there's solo but dungeons need a set number of people to complete

What does this game do better than any other mmo that tried and died out?

>>269552413

>the weapon thats i135 with stats you can tailor to your need will be worse than the i135 weapon with set stats

You go on believing that, you fucking retard.

>>269552486
I'd say both. Having played a shitload of mmo's I can tell you this is the best one out right now.

I'm just some random anon on the net though so take it however you want to take it.

>>269552486
solo grind, team fights party, so both really
being a multiplayer game though there's a lot giong on for interacting with others

>>269552589

High level of polish and content patches every 3 months.

>>269552598
I just finished my atma, hoping to one day get nexus.
Can you reset the points you put in your weapons and change them , or is it final after you choose the stats??

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>>269552627
>High level of polish
how is this a good thing?

>>269552627
Oh yeah, the production values are the best I've seen in a MMO.

>>269552708

You can modify them point for point once it's finished.

>>269552598

The difference is that one of them exists and one of them doesn't. And you're wrong anyway, relics were shit compared to raiding weapons until recently.

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>>269552719

That's a Russian with a Russian watermark.

>>269552598
2.38 was the first time relic weapon could be the same ilvl as a Coil weapon, and its very likely it won't be reaching that ilvl for a long time after this patch. In the end yes the upgraded relic will be better but it won't be for an very long time.

I'm going full SS spec Ninja just for the fun of it and to mix things up

ARR's gear and itemization is too boring otherwise, might as well do something different

>>269551772
>no subs.

They're literally just going to read the patch notes.

>>269552576
>>269552614
>>269552619
Thanks for answering. I can definitely tell this isn't /vg/.
I'm gonna buy it later today.

>>269551659
That's not a tranny that's a man in drag

>>269551649
> Offhand doesn't need to be HQ.
THANK YOU BASED YOSHIP. Plus they don't look like its meldable

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>>269552814
they are all the fucking same

>>269552841
Assuming casting Ninjutsu is 2-3 off GCD mudras in a row, the more skill speed you have, the more time you'll waste on every cast.

>>269552840
>first time

Nigga, relics and coil shit were originally i90. Raid faggots whining they weren't super spehshul for running through Coil was why the weapons got a meager ilvl increase, to sate the retards.

MOONRUNES ARE BACK

DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING BUT I'M HYPED ANYWAY

>>269552841
By different you mean bad? Well okay I guess.

>>269552949

The mudras all have a .5 second cooldown. You can pull off three in 1.5 seconds

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>>269552879

We hate /xivg/ as much as anyone. They misrepresent the game. They damage the community's reputation. I almost didn't play the game at first because of how disgustingly repulsive and annoying every single person that posts over there is.

Really glad that I didn't. I've been loving XIV for the last 5 months and content patches are always hype and refreshing.

>>269552517
Highest iLv weapon = BiS
Always. Thus Dreadwyrm is BiS until something better comes out because iLv makes such a crazy difference; you have no fucking clue.

Example:
I'm an i106 WHM with an unweathered Yagrush.
I heal for about 1250HP per Cure 1
I remove all my armor and all my accessories
With Yagrush equipped I heal for ~850HP
I re-equip all my armor and swap Yagrush out for an iLv 33 Bloodcry staff I happened to have in my inventory.
I now heal for 600HP.
So having a shitty weapon in ~i106 gear made me worse than having have an i110 weapon and no gear.

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I don't play either game, but did a little research and the difference of polish and aesthetics between XIV and WoD (isn't that a 2014 update?) is staggering.
Why does WoW still look like shit after graphical updates in 2014?

>mfw ded game will be more ded when WOD comes out in 2 weeks

>>269552993
Oh yeah, I forgot Allaghan weapons were i90 for a while. Still, you get my point, I'm just saying they're not useless if you can get one.

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>>269552719
Cats

>>269553045
What's wrong with /xivg/? I don't browse /vg/

>>269553056

Because even Blizzard is burned out on that game and wants it to die already.

>>269553024

You sound boring as fuck

>>269552879
Fuck xiv/vg/, I hope people seeing this thread know that's a vocal minority over there, contained in a few lewd servers no one likes to join.

Before you buy, there's a free trial period so enjoy that for a bit see if it suits you too.

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>>269553089

I resubbed today. I intend to restart my game. Last time I took a WHM to the beginning of Binding Coil (back when Turn 5 hadn't yet been beaten by anyone). I want to play a fun class on a server where I can meet great people and have a great time. Any suggestions?

I was on Lich last time.

>>269553056
The polish was even better in 1.0

>>269553056
I don't what I'm talking about, but I would assume it's because it's an old engine and they can really only improve it so much because of such limitations.

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>>269553148

c@

>>269553152

Man, just... go over there and you'll see why.

https://soundcloud.com/solracht/shiva

Follow along with stream!

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/4a7a48cd010551b65b1e0f03b318d0d45bf52d59

>>269552879
No worries. It's better if you play with friends also but I guess anything is better with friends.

And also avoid anything on /vg/ really.

>>269553212
Good call. That way I can see how it runs on my machine too.

I'm thinking about moving from Ultros to a more alive server if Ultros ever "die" dies. What are some good NA servers if that's the case?

>>269553056
>using a character creation screen as a comparison

It's good of you to use that, because the character creation backgrounds are pre-rendered bullshots of the areas in game, and even then they still look bad (but way better than the actual world looks.)

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>>269551649
>http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/123940-DATs-FFXIV-Patch-2.4-We-re-Going-Mining!

>new forager items
>probably needs more demateria shit
>can't just gather forever to get them using your own stats as a gatherer, you have to slobber the knob of a crafter or face another endless task of crafting yourself

WHY CAN'T GATHERING TOOLS JUST RELY ON GATHERING CLASSES.

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>>269553089
>he actually thinks people will play WoD even though though the numbers have been consistently dropping since Cataclysm

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>>269551380

>>269553326
Ultros is pretty fucking alive, character creation is locked on it all the fucking time.

>>269553231
Are you EU? I am and I jumped to NA servers because fuck french people shitting the entire server I was in.
SCH is a fun mode of healing plus you can dps, it will feel familiar yet different for someone who played WHM.
I dunno man try every class.

hai

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>>269553089

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>>269553406
>watching this while listening to this

>>269553259

>>269553089
>2.5 million players and rising every month
>LE DED GAYM xD

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>>269553519
>200k subscribers

>>269553519
>s-stop playing this
>play my mmo instead before it dies ;_;

>>269551429
This faggot cut us in line whlie we were waiting for odin. Love that he got up on stage for the costume contest even though he didn't even make his costume himself.

>>269552879
go ahead and use my recruitment code if you like, there's a place on the mog station under account to input it
KHTKWXMZ

>>269553259

So shiva has the second lamest theme, behind levi

kind of disappointed

>>269553602

Didn't win anyway, that both Garudas were way too godlike.

>>269553570
[citation needed]

>>269553326
Popular non /vg/ or leddit servers include:
Leviathan
Behemoth
those are top 2 pop, others include
Lamia, Famfrit, Cactuar etc any other really

Servers to avoid due to cancer:
BALMUNG, Sargatanas Gilgamesh, Ultros, ANY EU SERVER.
Not gonna shill my own server but this my experience from trying a few, and making a few outs on several places.

>>269551649
Artisan's Mitts

Level: 60
Item Level: 60
Jobs: All
Stats:
Defense: 30
Magical Defense: 57
Control : 29
CP : 2

Wow the new crafting gear sucks more dick then I thought they would

>>269553570
Source? Not that guy

>>269553635
Yeah, I don't care for it myself.
Though I don't care for i110 weapons or i120 bracelets so I wont be doing it anytime soon, anyway.

>>269553519
>2.5 million players
Most of these players aren't actually subscribed, though.

>>269553682
true, but that he shouldn't have even been on stage.

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>>269553691

Leviathan is more leddit than Gilgamesh. I just transferred FROM Levi to Gilgamesh.

>>269553635
I kind of like it, I'll have to see how it feels in the battle though. Its definitely more of a straight-up pop/rock song than any of the other primal themes, but its not bad.

>>269553732
Same can be said of WoW, as they count the "pay by the hour" chinese accounts, free to play level 20 accounts, and frozen accounts.

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>>269553152

/xivg/ is filled with erp degenerates who do nothing but post their avatars and lewd garbage. there is no game discussion, only cancer.

>>269553787
Ah my bad scratch that, Levi used to be fine 2.1, shame that has changed over there.

>>269553691
Levi and Gilgamesh are literally the Reddit servers.

Ultros is fine

>>269553691
>Any EU server
Well, fuck you, I'm having a fine time in Moogle.

>>269553693
>Crafting Points : 2
Why even bother?

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>>269553732
A good chunk of those are from 1.0 since its alpha too, wouldn't put it past them to include trial accounts in there to inflate their shit numbers either.

Will heavensguard have housing in the skies, or in the snow of ishgard?
I am not feeling the vibe of the current 3 housing districts... Any rumors of new housing plots in expansion ??

>>269553732
It's pay to play, so that doesn't work. C+ effort on trying to troll though. Back to /vg/

>>269553934

Ultros is shit, the second most popular /vg/ cancer server and Collision just transferred from there leaving it more dead than it's ever been.

Stop lying. Your server is a fat sloppy piece of shit. You either pick from The Big Six (Balmung, Sargannatas, Excalibur, Gilgamesh, Leviathan, Behemoth) or you're a shilling piece of shit.

Fuck Shiva's theme

Fucking Snowcloak top tier

https://soundcloud.com/ffxivunnoficial/snowcloak-theme

>>269553963
Considering that the HQ versions don't even give more Control or CP. your HQ AF gear is better int he long run making the new crafting gear USELESS. Man I was worried for nothing.

>>269553908
It's still fine. We were one of the first servers to organize server wide hunts, have different FCs and LS for different playstyles, and constant pfs up.

I have no fucking idea what he was talking about

https://soundcloud.com/solracht/answers

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>>269554095

Every server with a decent population has all of those things. Shut the fuck up.

>Final Coil final boss music is just Answers
>not even arranged
>just Answers
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD

>>269554074
>Big Six
>Only Excalibur and Behemoth are decent
>Not wanting a mid-pop server to make actual normal folk friends and have a good time
I'd advise people against going into the huge servers but whatever shills your shills

>>269554008
>Any rumors of new housing plots in expansion ??
Well they're definitely increasing the number of housing plots in all current districts, so they could be adding an entire new one. Wouldn't be unsurprising.

>>269554091
There might be something wrong with this person's data mining that isn't showing HQ stats correctly, I have no idea though.

>>>/vg/84716884

>>269554164
Aww, mad you couldn't cut it in fucking Tribe?

Cry more

>>269554183
This is clearly a rearranged version.

>>269554074
You talk as if you've been on Ultros before.

I doubt you have.

Let me guess, you play on Behe?

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>>269554153
Fucking chills.
Casual babies who need to wait for echo wont know the joys for a long, long time.

>>269554283
That's just one track, presumably field theme.
The other three tracks are Answers cut to loop.

>>269553683
>>269553701
Square hasn't released any information on specifically how many subscribers it has in a long time. When it first was released it peaked at 600k. It's fair to assume it's much less than that now. 200-300k is a fair assumption as it'd mean a 10-15%% retention rate.

>katon no jutsu
>Doton no jutsu

Holy shit i can't wait to macro and shout my jutsus like I am literally naruto , see how the parties react to that.

>>269551649
Magical Defense: 11
Artisan's Mitts
Level: 50
Item Level: 60
Jobs: All
Stats:
Defense: 30
Magical Defense: 57
Control : 29
CP : 2
HQ Stat Adjustments:
Defense: 38
Magical Defense: 72
Control : 29
CP : 2
Artisan's Culottes
Level: 50
Item Level: 60
Jobs: All
Stats:
Defense: 42
Magical Defense: 80
Control : 29
Craftsmanship : 3
HQ Stat Adjustments:
Defense: 53
Magical Defense: 100
Control : 29
Craftsmanship : 3
Artisan's Sandals
Level: 50
Item Level: 60
Jobs: All
Stats:
Defense: 30
Magical Defense: 57
Control : 29
Craftsmanship : 3
HQ Stat Adjustments:
Defense: 38
Magical Defense: 72
Control : 29
Craftsmanship : 3

Artisan Left side!

All shitposting aside, is there a better modern MMO out there with a better soundtrack than ARR

https://soundcloud.com/ffxivunnoficial/final-coil-of-bahamut-theme

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>>269554186

my server is never mentioned, well populated. not too crowded, and definitely not empty. no /vg/ no reddits no meme spouting faggots, /shout is clear except players helping others.

feels fucking good.

>>269554323
But it's been revealed it is actually growing since then (no numbers shown so it could be growing 1% a month for all I know), I dunno where you're getting this decreased rate from.

>>269554202
BG is a huge guild filled with only the elite. I don't expect them to fuck up on numbers considering they could get all the others HQ items numbers.

>>269554408
WoW

Ninja gear is

OF SCOUTING!

>>269554421
He does mention he's never used his parser on FF14 before.

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Is Hihshdahl too much c@ for a last name? Toned it down to Hisdahl but im not really feeling it

Also how accurate is XIVSoul? Plan to hop onto Lamia

>>269554410
It isn't selling that well, meaning not many new subscribers.

>>269554183
I like answers.

>>269554424
He said better

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>>269554323
>baseless claims on assumptions and no actual evidence

Uh huh

>>269554409
I'm hoping by posting that image you mean you're from Goblin.

>>269554409
bowie is a blackmage

http://strawpoll.me/2834525

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>>269554408
>no Nobou
>>269554496
Well you can really only assume the worst when the company won't fucking tell us what sort of retention rate it has. 10-15% is pretty generious.

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>>269554271

Is that your shitty FC or something? If you aren't Nos or AuMog then nobody gives a fuck about you, Captain Delusion.

>>269554484
XIVsoul is mildly accurate, accurate increases as it mines more data.
Lamia is certainly a high pop server
(though vg doesn't it consider the BIG SIX , because those big servers were big last year, XIVsoul's data is more recent, so recently Lamia could very well be bigger)

>>269554421
There's actually a difference between BG the guild and most people who post on the forums, but yes BG is definitely the best place to go for game info and theorycrafting.

That said I wouldn't be surprised if something's wrong about the datamining here, even on the i110 crafted battle gear the only difference shown on the HQ is defense and magic defense, that just can't be right.

>>269554487
And where are you getting that information from?

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>>269554508
i'll never tell.

>>269554559
Till the SEA SWALLOWS ALL MOTHERFUCKER

>>269554652
Japan's sales charts at the time of release.

When will the servers be up? Should I stay up or just wait until tomorrow. I swear if it's more than 2 hours from now I'm going to bed.

>>269554563
>Well you can really only assume the worst when the company won't fucking tell us what sort of retention rate it has.
You can't really assume anything with ground that soft.

>>269554563
Everyone knows your BS is false, otherwise our servers would be ghost towns like TOR. They're not. We still have population caps on several servers precisely because of the game's popularity. Get fuccccckkkeed.

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>>269554581
>Implying I give a fuck about any of those "big" guilds and didn't just find one with my friends to fuck around and have fun with without all the bullshit drama I hear from all the others

Stop arguing about hypothetical subscription numbers none of you have access to you idiots.

>>269554741
From what I hear a lot of servers are pretty empty.

>>269554718
Release?
Like 1.0 or is it ARR release?

>>269554760

Then why did you name some random FC and imply I would give a shit about it?

I guess Reddit is leaking or something.

>>269554484
Shorter name, the longer one has like 2 vowels how do you even say it out loud
Lamia is a large server, I personally don't know and /v/ or /vg/ action there though if you are looking for that

>>269554815
ARR

>>269554718
>At the time of release
>Over a year ago

>>269554721
go to bed, when a big patch hits, people with get disconneced with 9001 error code, glitches everywhere and so on, specially this patch since it introduces a new job, there will be an emergency maintenance after a few hours the servers are brought back up

>>269554815
He is probably looking at 1.0 data, like a dumb fuck. 600k sounds like the 1.0 launch numbers.

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>>269554741
>pop caps only on 6 servers at best that can only hold 4k players at a time and have had that number of retards playing on them since 1.0

Yeah, sure got fucked.

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post yfw soon
> triple triad
> gold saucer
> chocobo racing

>>269553907
This information is a bit outdated. There's very little erp and actual game avatar posters. It's only two notorious anime avatar posters and their orbiters that claim that they are "girls" and do nothing wrong. Still avoid it all the same.

>>269554878
Do you have a link to that information?

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>>269554880
It wasn't even #1 when it was released.
>>269554915
>triple triad
>not tetra master

>>269554807
>from what I have heard from baseless claims
Create a character in a low pop server, look for yourself if you even play the fucking game, shit's popping tarts 24/7

Fuuuuck, should I start ginding Ninja straight away, or should i take my WAR through the story content first?

I'm so pissed about not finishing T9 and having access to the final coil. I don't care about raiding, I just want the plot and music

>>269554421

I think you're confusing Order of the Blue Garter from Excalibur, who consistently claim world firsts, and Order of the Blue Gartr, which just has a bunch of theorycrafting nerds on it and shit.

I've raided Savage T7 and T9 with the Gilgamesh BG's main team. Their bard and monk are extremely awful at mechanics.

>>269554904
>pop caps only on 6 servers at best that can only hold 4k players

Except that is not remotely accurate. Double that and you're close.

>>269554991
>there are people who prefer tetra master

Why? Its just nowhere near as good.

>>269554961
Lies it has not changed one bit, I lurk there for the reason to post and read erp and avatar drama, and you know it too.

>>269554484
>>269554623

XIVsoul only counts guilded characters. And they're done scraping. It's absolute shit for indicating actual active populations.

>>269554849
>the longer one has like 2 vowels how do you even say it out loud

it's hissing. Apparently c@s make a lot of cat noises when pronouncing things so I was trying to be true to that

Not really looking to play with channers per say just wanted a more lively server since Coeurl is usually dead

>>269554820
Because anyone who actually participated with the levi population longer then a week would actually know more about the server then the shitty world firsts who only matter for like a week, which you obviously don't

>>269554807
>From what I hear a lot of servers are pretty empty.

Incorrect

Vaguely off topic, but there's a kickstarter MMO strictly about Triple Triad (Literally the same game), with oldschool MMO looting mechanics, like stealing other players cards when you win

It's looking like it might be pretty cool, can't remember the name

>>269555007
yeah I was talking about the Excal one. Know a friend who is their healer in the main team of BG.

>>269554987
I'm getting a little tired of spoon feeding you. I know I should expect that in an ARR thread but come on. Google isn't hard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIV:_A_Realm_Reborn#Sales_and_subscriptions

>By the end of the first week, the PS3 version of A Realm Reborn was placed second in Japan's sales charts

>>269555091
>It's absolute shit for indicating actual active populations

damn, well what's a goodish populated server that isn't completely cancerous?

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>>269555130

Please. I rolled on Leviathan at head start and played there until literally last week. It's a worse server than Gilgamesh in every way.

Stop being so defensive if you have one singular experience, you just look like a moron.

>>269555113
Then Lamia is def a large pop for normies.
I actually transfered to BALMUNG cause I wanted to be part of the weird shit going on in /vg/ but that's not for everyone...

>>269555232

I raided in Allotropy with Touch Fluffytail. I was there when they all quit and when half of them went to join AuMog and made it the FC it is today.

Hop off my dick and accept that Levi is just anus, dude.

I play on Behemoth

Don't come to Behemoth. Worst PF groups of any server, so it's either manage to get into an elitist static (good luck if you don't already have a T9 clear) , or rot without progression. I'm seriously considering a server transfer

>>269555190
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggh

I need it. I dont care how much they charge

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>>269555226
I enjoy my server a lot, mid-sized population I think and the community's pretty decent.

>All these Sperglords of Draenor shitposters.

Can you guys just go back to your fanfiction simulator and have fun? Oh wait, you're STILL waiting for new content!

>>269555226
I'm very happy on Sargatanas, my only complaint is that it's in the same data center as Balmung.

>tfw I finally hit 50 my WAR an hour before maintenance.
Played it non stop for a week and a half.
What are some things I should do once the servers go live?

>>269555432
Don't you play a WoW clone?

>>269555395
No charge, its one of the minions that won't be released until probably the next patch though, I think it was one of the things accidentally listed in the notes too soon.

How's the community going? I got a MNK to 50 when I played, got my armor and didn't renew my sub due to no one to talk to. Wanna resub for the patch, I was on Ultros before. What's the good server free of /vg/ faggery?

>>269555221
>I'm getting a little tired of spoon feeding you
Too bad.
You make a claim, you better be prepared to support it. And probably not act like a little snot.

Also thank you.
I wonder how well the PS4 and Steam releases helped.

>>269553691
I was on Ultros when I played and it was perfectly fine.

>>269555524

See >>269554074

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>>269555376
Sory to hear that, I rolled behemoth when I started months ago, to only discover it is the "official" server for brazilians
Quickly moved out of there. I am a br myself and hate my own people. Here's a snip of the xiv br site telling people to go to Behemoth.

>>269555474
Cap Poetics, make damn sure.

>>269555243
Isnt character creation on Balmung still restricted?

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Oh shit I want it.

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dat chocobo

>>269555542
I did support it. You were just too fucking lazy or stupid to know where to look for that information.

>>269555570
Aren't Balmung and Excalibur notorious ERP servers?

can someone post the dragoon rotation picture

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>>269555432
>my shit themepark WoW clone MMO is better than your shit themepark original MMO

>>269555620
Iwaited til like 5am to make a transfer a month ago and it opened up for a transfer, dunno about new chars though

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Come at me bro.

>>269555646
>>269555643
>>269555190
where did you guys get these pics?

>>269555652

You could google those 3 words and find it in 3 seconds. Fuck yourself.

>>269551206
what is the hardest class to play? I want to try the game out but mmos aren`t really that challenging

>>269555395
I expect it to be the Coil's quests final reward.

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>>269555649
That's not how arguments work, you underage retard.

>>269555768

Nin looks like the most complicated

So that, DRG, or SCH

>tfw gonna try and stay up all day to level ninja

am i gonna regret this? i tried to nap but just ended up laying down with myeyes clothes for like an hour

>>269555768
MNK, NIN may take that title though.

I just hit level 50 BLM before my sub ends.
Should I farm atma and unlock roulettes or
level a tank/healer class with infinite dungeon runs?

>>269555649
Burden of proof is not on the person you're trying to prove something to.
That is not how you debate.

>people actually care about minions
What the fuck?

>>269555815
>drg
>complex
O I AM LAFFIN

>>269555838

Please explain how Monk is harder than Dragoon.

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Oh shit.

>>269555768
scholar end game probably has the highest skill ceiling. ninja looking very complex too.

>>269555894

They have the longest rotation at any rate, with lengthy animation locks, and the standard complexities that come with being a melee character

>>269555906
That's what I'm talkin' about.

>>269555891
I like collecting small iconic things.
I blame the 90's.

>>269555906

what are these? pets?

>>269554408
FFXI ;_;

>>269555880

PS3 sales in Japan has got to be the most inconsequential metric of measuring it's success. You just need to look at how popular it is in NA/EU for evidence of that. Japan's relative gaming population is basically the size of one American State or one EU country.

>>269555897
By being faster, having more positional requirements, needing to save GL3 where it's salvageable, and knowing how to deal with Perfect Balance in different situations.
Fuck off, DRG.

>>269555809
>>269555880
Me: It wasn't top of the sales charts at release.
You: What sales charts?
Me: Japan's.
You: SOURCE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO LOOK FOR THINGS ON THE INTERNET

I told you exactly what information you needed to know. You were just too lazy to google it.

>>269555952
Yeah because going 12345 is hard.

Monk requires you to move around and do the same shit.

>>269555981
Minions.
Just little figures that follow you around and do nothing important.

Purely aesthetic.

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>>269555891
They're slightly entertaining and there's not a whole lot to find in the data mines right now other than equipment stats.

Yoshimitsu Animus
Level: 50
Item Level: 100
Jobs: Unknown
Stats:
Physical Damage: 49
Magical Damage: 36
Delay: 24
DEX : 37
VIT : 42
CriticalHitRate : 40
Accuracy : 28
Description: One of the fabled relic weapons.
Yoshimitsu Novus
Level: 50
Item Level: 110
Jobs: Unknown
Stats:
Physical Damage: 51
Magical Damage: 38
Delay: 24
DEX : 42
VIT : 49
Description: One of the fabled relic weapons.
Yoshimitsu Nexus
Level: 50
Item Level: 115
Jobs: Unknown
Stats:
Physical Damage: 53
Magical Damage: 39
Delay: 24
DEX : 45
VIT : 53
Description: One of the fabled relic weapons.

>>269555894
This, there is no "difficult" class in this game. If your IQ is even near room temperature, you can figure out optimal rotations in 10 minutes or less.

All the current MMOs are for brain dead casuals.

>>269556043
Moving around makes it easier, though.

>>269555891
>not fishing with Baby Raptor playing around where you sit

>>269556071
YO IS THAT A FAT CHOCOBO MINION?

>>269556028
>SOURCE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO LOOK FOR THINGS ON THE INTERNET
So you're not actually gonna prove it then. We're not gonna make your argument for you, kid. Disregarded. Don't post again.

so looking at the rog/nin skiils, is there any reason to let drg into the party now? is drg dead?

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>>269555782
If there's any minion reward from Coil it's going to be this.

>>269556043
>Update

Monks have a very simple rotation. DRG's have a 27 step rotation, and also have some positional requirements, and again, animation lock timings that MNK doesn't have to worry about

>>269555815
>>269555929
are there any pet classes and can you actually control them like in their positioning and abilities?

>>269556095
>animus

The plural is anime.

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For those who keep asking about "oh my server is shit where do I go?"
Do you like /vg/? Balmung, Sargatanas, Ultros, Cactuar (dead ex-vg), Hyperion
Reddit? Leviathan, Gilgamesh, Sargatanas, Excalibur

Are you a normal person? Every other server not listed above is just fine and ALL the same. Some higher end population include:
Behemoth, Siren, Lamia, Exodus, Famfrit, Faerie (LGBT community what a surprise) list goes on literally

XIVsoul is MILDLY vaguely accurate, for example, Coerul and Goblin are on the bottom half of the list? It is probably NOT a high pop server. Brynhylder is claimed 3rd place? It might not be 3rd but it is in the top half, securing a good pop.

Hope that helps anyone in doubt, don't listen to the shills, make your own decision in the end it's about the people you meet in there anyway.

>>269556126
I did prove it. Scroll up.

>>269555897

You have to pay attention to GCD's and you have to refresh DoTs at the time that they drop while keeping up positional attacks and GL stacks. DRG is cakewalk

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>XI shills shitpost in every single XIV /v/ thread
>always talking about le dying game or falling subscribers
>no server merges yet after a year and they even just opened Jenova like 4 months ago after the game came on steam because of the massive influx of players
>13 months after release game is still fun and has an even bigger population than it did after the first 60 days

petty. i enjoyed xi but the game was total dogshit by abyssea and you really cant befriend anyone who had it as their first serious mmo because they cant do anything except talk about how shitty their lives have been since then

please die

>>269556175
Summoner and Scholar.

>>269556096

MMO's have never been about complex combat buddy. You're barking up the wrong genre

>>269556028
You where the only person who needed to supply a source. The only lazy one was you for not bringing it up in the first place. How the hell do you write research papers? Just expect people to find the sources themselves?

>>269556182
Not that those are characters created on the server, not actually people playing the game.

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Diabeetus.

>>269556174
>DRG's have a 27 step rotation
They have a priority list a retard can follow.
Heavy Thrust > Chaos Thrust > Phlebotomize > Full Thrust.

>>269556243
guess I will try scholar then, thanks

>>269556175
scholar is a pet class and you can manually control them including position and casting

and i'm pretty sure every non-retard scholar manually controls their pets

>>269556126
He did prove it. I just had to coax it out of him and deal with his whining.

>>269556184
The proof is not here. Trying to shitpost with "SPOONFEEDING" is not an argument. Why do I have to do your work, when you're trying to convince me with your point?

>>269556262
I have no problem spoon feeding my professors.

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>>269556013

>having more positional requirements

um no? all you do is lose damage. it isnt a requirement. moron.

>needing to save GL3 where it's salvageable,

this sentence doesnt even make sense. you have PB up for every single phase change and invul in scob. i guess you dont raid anything of significant importance so you just decided to take a shit on your keyboard instead of type anything coherent here

> knowing how to deal with Perfect Balance in different situations
.....

>Fuck off, DRG

whm, actually, and i probably have more experience with every single job in the game than you do with monk

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>2017
>FFXIV recently updated to 4.56
>log in and decide I want to play SAM today
>queue for DF
>Due to SE going f2p, massive influx of BR
>grouped with 2 lala females and catgirl; DRK, RDM, DNC
>all speaking sewer language
>DRK in dps stance
>RDM only casting stone
>DNC not using heals
>can't get past 1st boss in WP
>"shit SAM tank"

pls don't f2p

>>269554325
all the ninjutsu names were taken directly from ffxi so you'll definetly spark some autismal rage

>>269556278
Still gives a fairly vague idea, Exodus is obviously not a bottom tier server no matter how many non-playing people is in that number

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Also baby sheep minion is back

>>269556095

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXHT9QgVg7U

>tfw wanna try streaming 2.4 but no one will watch

>>269556227
YOU'RE DOOMED

>>269556376
Because I gave you exactly what you needed to know.

captcha: cesslun ufed

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>>269556407
>F2P
>2017

More like mid 2015.

Why does everybody hate on dragoons? I get the loldrg fad from XI and everything, but they have more party synergy than monk and with a bard in the party, better dps.

>>269556174
lmao
m
a
o

Shut the fuck up, DRG baby. MNK is harder than your fucking cat class.
>27 step rotation
OH
I
AM
LAUGHING

Where do you fucking cat shitters GET this shit? Your ass?

>>269556376
He provided a link in that post actually.
>>269556393
Why do you think they make you support your views with evidence?
This "spoonfeeding" sounds like a lazy excuse to push the burden of proof on someone else. Arguments do not work that way.

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>>269556013
>knowing how to deal with Perfect Balance in different situations

>>269556462

nobody watches FFXIV streams because one can only take so much of people farming Titan

>>269556401
>um no? all you do is lose damage. it isnt a requirement. moron.
Your job is to deal as much damage as possible, not fail positionals.

>PB up for every single phase change and invul in scob. i guess you dont raid anything of significant importance so you just decided to take a shit on your keyboard instead of type anything coherent here

Dude what.
You lose GL3 at double dives, first golem phase, second golem phase, megaflare, and first divebombs on T9 alone.

>knowing how to deal with Perfect Balance in different situations
Yes, midfight in situations such as T8 where you wont be needing to reset GL3.

Fuck off.

>>269556407
>DPS stance

That'd imply interesting game mechanics, anon.
>>269556560
I told you what you needed to know. You were just too stupid or lazy to google it.

>>269556347

There is absolutely no reason not too. They still cast embrace, their main heal, on their own too

>>269556182
>Cactuar (dead ex-vg)
Why do people say this? Isn't the a /v/ guild on there? I think there is even an /a/ guild.

>>269556534
That's pretty much its, its generally a leftover from XI days, /v/ just needs to find something to hate on because its /v/, as long as the player isn't an idiot DRGs are perfectly fine and they got some buffs this patch as well, absolutely no one with a brain rejects a DRG entirely because its a DRG.

>>269556572
Please, tell me the PB rotation for when you already have GL3 up and wont be needing to build GL3 again.

>>269556534
It's just a meme, and because your regular anime teenager, picture him choosing a class.
Which one would he want? The edgemaster badass edge guy of course.
Will be be a good player? Of course not, making that population shittier overall.
Are there good DRG and is it a good burst class? Yes

>>269556507
>Because I gave you exactly what you needed to know.
Which is exactly like citing Wikipedia for a debate in a term paper. What the actual fuck is with your logic? What I need to know is something I'm not gonna look for you. You need to present it, or you won't be taken seriously and you can just fuck off after leaving behind your concession.

>>269556548
>dat mnk ego

I bet you don't even apply DoTs.

Also, monk is easy as fuck to play. So is the entire game.

Spoilers.

>>269556712
A MNK will outdo a DRG with a BRD in the group on every fight.

>>269556261
That's the thing, the combat isn't complex, but people tend to act like the rotations are fucking brain surgery. It's so simple you can easily top DPS charts while falling asleep.

>>269556637
>I told you what you needed to know. You were just too stupid or lazy to google it.
No. You where too lazy or stupid to support it.

It's not my duty to support your side of an argument. You need to learn that as soon as you can.

>>269556637
>what is cleric stance
It's not like DPS stances don't have a precedent in this game

>>269553251
A game being hindered by the ps fucking tripple looks better

>>269556819

I don't think so, Tim.

>>269556726
4 True Strikes from the back and a Demolish or a Snap Punch from the flank sure is hard.

>>269556787
>>269556840
If someone asked me for a source and I said "Japan's sales charts at the time of release" there wouldn't be any discussion about that being a valid source. You're just butthurt that you got told.

>>269556726

bootshine spam for maximum criticals, end with a demolish to refresh gl3, obtain mlg pro status

>>269556916
Except it's true.

>>269556895
PS3 is still newer than WoW

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Reminder if you're a MNK or DRG without Fracture you're literally shit and doing potentially less DPS than you should be doing for snubbing a single DoT skill into your rotation.
PLD reminder don't take fracture cause it drains your TP a lot, you idiot.

>>269556819
There are fights that need burst damage, and there are fights where keeping GL3 up at all times isn't feasible, and DRG buffs BRD DPS as well, its not useless.

>>269556792

If you can't do 450-500+ DPS at 105 then you're not doing well. Only a VERY small amount of monks are able to pull this off. Anyone can pick up the class but playing it correctly is really difficult whereas anyone can pick up loldrg and do just as good as the next guy

>>269556726

ts dk dec sp sp sp

>>269556534

very early into ARR, DRG had some terrible animations locks on their abilities, causing the to get killed because they couldn't move out of the red circle in time. If there was a DRG in your Titan HM party, you could be sure he was gonna die unless he had the entire fight memorized

>>269556946
>4 True Strikes from the back and a Demolish or a Snap Punch from the flank sure is hard.
>going another 4 actions without Dragon Kick active
Full retard.

>>269556953
Even more wrong.

>these saps arguing over which DPS is second most complex

lol

>>269556534
Because they're fucking shitters. It's the edgy, so cool Kain Highwind class that attracts the retards.

>better dps.
>DRG
>Better dps than MNK
HAHHAHAHAHAHaaaaAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?
DO YOU EVEN FUCKING PLAY THIS GAME?
Do you think PLD deal more damage than WAR, too?

>>269556792
What is Touch of Death?
>Get fucking told
>W-W-Well this game's fucking EASY KID!!!!!
Sit the fuck down, Dragoon.

>>269556953
>>269556946
Still more difficult than your average DRG rotation.

>>269557009
>6 actions during PB
>3 SPs with GL3 already up
dude what

>>269556949
>being too lazy and/or stupid to actual cite your source means you win
Nope. Like I said, you're not gonna be taken seriously, so enjoy being laughed at. Arguments aren't your thing, so just leave. Go ask your parents to help with your points next time.

>>269556949
>If someone asked me for a source and I said "Japan's sales charts at the time of release" there wouldn't be any discussion about that being a valid source.
Except that simply saying something isn't evidence or a source. You need to deliver the information.
Is there something wrong with how your brain works? Is this a special kind of shitposting?

any way to figure out what materia is needed for the ninja relic quest..

market research reasons of course

>>269555906
It would be the best shit in the world if it would spam your log with shitty puns

>>269557053
>not having both already up

Ok son, with GL3 up you do Dragon Kick, Twin Snakes, Demolish/Snap Punch, Perfect Balance, 4x True Strike, Demolish/Snap Punch.

Gee golly that sure was hard and strategic like everything in this shit game.

>>269557119
Look nerd, why don't you go summon some ACTUAL primals?

O-Oh wait.

>>269557028
It was only jumps. I'd know since I cleared titan HM before they removed a ton of animation lock. It's easy enough to know when you could use it, but you're right, it was total memorization at the time.

>>269553089

Holy shit he's right. There hasn't been a WoW expansion since ffxiv was released. You guys are in for a treat. RIP overrated WoW clone #17

>>269556956

Not really, no. Unless it's a trash mob that dies mid combo while setting up Disembowel.

Not to mention DRG has better utility, enmity mitigation, a superior TP threshold, and AoE.

Monk is worthless versus more than one target, also.

>>269557129
>Do you think PLD deal more damage than WAR, too?

PLD with Sword Oath deals better sustained damage than WAR without Defiance on