Can we have an RTS thread? Discuss favorite strategies, favorite

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Is there any decent RTS that came out relatively recently? I mean like. Post SC2. I've tried Planetary annhialation but it's not that great, at least not right now. I'm currently playing SC2 high gold as random. I'd really like some suggestions on other titles to take a look on, preferably with online communities that's semi-alive.

What is that game that allows you to play as a King, duke, etc. with heirs and shit?

Its based in europe when the holy roman empire is around. I want to play that one really bad.

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What's the general opinion on Spellforce?
I played it on a whim after being bored and am honestly really surprised how involved I am in it.

>>261436149
Love it. Its a nice mixture of RTS and RPG genres

>>261436120

Medieval 2?

>>261435741
I really enjoyed company of heroes 2 but good luck finding anyone to play with anymore

>>261436120
not a RTS but are you talking about Crusader Kings 2?

I wish Gearbox would hurry the fuck up and re-release Homeworld 1-2

>>261436149

the first game is enjoyable but rough around the edges, I would've liked to see the hybrid of RPG and RTS to be built upon over time in other games.

>>261435741
I've always wanted to random, but i blow as Terran. Got any tips for a Terran scrublord?

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>>261435254
Be advised! This airspace is under the control of Air force general Malcolm Granger! Withdraw now, or prepare to be bombed back to the stone age!

General, you are no match for me. I own the skies.

Watch the skies, general. We're about to put on an airshow.

[PLANES INTENSIFY!}

"Let's give 'em an airshow!"

Wanna see it again? Hehehe...

>>261435741
>dem FF
>dem storms
>suck a dick zerg shits
God I miss SC2 and master race protoss

>>261436612

This. God damnit I always forget the name.

I thought it would be classified as a RTS (unless my perceived definition of an RTS is wrong)

Do you think World War 3 will make RTS games popular again?

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>>261437043
Ah, greetings, general. Do not think I don't see your spies, flying over my base! Please, look all you wish! For this may be the last time you ever see my stronghold...

As you can see, my defenses are impenetrable, and my toxins will poison your troops, long before they can reach me...

Prepare to tell your three-eyed grandchildren of your defeat this day!

>>261436668
>>261437104
It's called grand strategy, friend.

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>>261437043
You'll come for the toxin, but you'll stay....BECAUSE YOU'RE DEAD! HAHAHAHA

>>261437436

ah, thanks

>>261436947
Depends on which race you're up against but generally you want to make marines/upgrade marines/get 3-5 medivacs. Always build an expansion in your base and fly them out when you get an oppurtunity. As soon as one finishes, build a new one. Ravens are seriously good, get at least one for those point defense drones. Oh, and if you play against protoss: get combat shields before stim of you're planning on an early attack, a marine dies in 3 photon overcharge shots instead of 2.

>>261437097
They can still do that
You can still go back
sc2 aint ded gam yet

>>261435254
>Favorite Titles
C&C Generals: Shockwave
>Favorite Tactic
Mammoth Rush

>>261435741
MoW: Assault Squad 2

>>261435741
Not sure what you mean by relatively recently but you really can't go wrong with Supreme Commander, the original that is.

Failing that, C&C Generals is really awesome and then there's always Rise of Nations.

FOR THE EMPEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

>>261436120

Crusader Kings.

>>261438829
DoW1 was amazing in it's day, and was spectacular eye candy, but it's aged like milk somehow.

DoW2 was a letdown for me, too much focus on managing ability cooldowns and mana pools, not enough of the CoH-style emphasis on positioning and outmaneuvering an opponent.

>>261435741
WarGame: RedDragon but thats mostly RTT
>>261436465
If they ever make a blitz mod for CoH2 it will be a good game, but for now its kinda lame.
>>261438829
tfw DoW2 was a complete let down.

Fact: RTT are always better than RTS.

>>261435254
Man, why the fuck did EA have to fuck up the piss easy formula that they had with command and conquer series?

Kinda excited about the homebrew RTS's that people are making with dota 2 alpha.

>>261439615
Room for both on any strategy fan's hard drive.

>>261435254
Didnt this game get cancled?
What a shame..

>>261439615
Debatable, I personally enjoy RTT more because battles can change drastically, but RTS like SupCom while having its basic build orders or rush starts could also be played out differently.
I personally never got into sc/sc2 because after playing an RTS like SupCom, SC2 seemed so lackluster.

>>261439892
Yes, THANKS EA

Is there any RTS where you can run over enemy infantry with your vehicles except for Halo: Wars?

>>261440296

Comman and conquer

>>261440296
Almost all of the Command & Conquer games.

>>261440296
Any Command & Conquer except for Tiberian Twilight.

>>261439951
I know this feel,
I can't fucking play SC2, it seems so inferior to supreme commander, everything about it is shit compared to glorious three hour move orders, 2 hour build queues, stealth artillery bases, nuclear submarines. etc.

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Leveling every building on the map has never been this fun. Or looked this good.

>tfw Activision turned Sierra into an " indie group "

>>261439615
At what lol

>>261440296
The entire fucking C&C series. Best game in it is Generals unless you prefer singleplayer.

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READY FOR ACTION!

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>tfw there are a few RTS games on the horizon that promise to bring back the old style
>tfw you know it's too good to be true

>>261440534
Forgot to mention

> " Thank you, sir. Bannon out. "
Always gets me

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I want to see another Warzone 2100, just without the appalling unit path finding.

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MY MEN APPROACH, YOU WILL TROUBLE BE NO MORE.


>THE WOLF'S TROOPS ARE ATTACKING
>At least 50 swordsmen and over 100 crossbowmen

Will Crusader 2 be good?

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Best RTS with worst servers

>>261439196
>>261439371
>DoW2
>Shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiGP40rfZWk

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>>261440951
>>261440534

holy shit this fucking game

I wish the Soviet xpak wasn't so crummy

>tfw there won't ever be a sequel where you liberate europe, then Russia itself
>tfw there won't ever be a sequel where you complete the invasion of the American homeland and take over Europe
>you'll never go to space and take Communism to the stars

>>261441025
Ha. Of course it won't.

>>261437043

Laser General fucks this guy up so badly, it's not even funny anymore.

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Any of you niggers played this shit?

This was my jam as a kid.

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>>261440551
At providing interesting and challenging battles instead of glorified city builders and 'attack move' the largest blobs to win.

>>261435254

>tfw C&C is kill

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Anyone hyped for this?

http://www.ancientspacegame.com/

Apparently its single playing only, but so far that looks to be the only downside it has.

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>>261441228
I dunno, I thought the Soviet campaign was bretty gud too. Really short, though.

Is the Wargame series similar to this? I have European Escalation on Steam, but I've never bothered to play it.

>China will grow larger
>tfw China will never grow larger again

>>261441718
>I thought the Soviet campaign was bretty gud too

I'm probably too harsh on it, I really liked the story and the characters

but I was sort of hoping for something more than what we got

>>261440551
That's a funny way to spell Tiberium Wars.

>>261441012
That, plus maybe some more comfortable unit design and research selection interface, you know, all those modern additions like actual tooltips with descriptions and such.

Also, less times missions, those were a pain in the ass annoyance.

Still, wonderful game, 10/10 would turtle again,

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Why aren't you playing a god tier RTS, /v/?

>>261440296

company of heroes with some tanks/vehicles. the main one is a sherman thank with crab mine flails that just rips up infantry.

with blitzkrieg mod, most tanks can run over infantry. I've actually lost high veteran mortars units because my fucking tank drivers are psychopathic blind old men.

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>>261441959

>>261441692
>hyped

I'm not hyped for shit until it's out

I wanna get hyped for that Grey Goo game because it has a ton of people working on it that are from the old C&C studio, but I dunno man

I just don't know anymore

>>261441718
>>261441228
>>261440534

Brethren!

World in Conflict doesn't get nearly enough recognition on /v/.

>>261441718
It's somewhat similar, but I just couldn't enjoy it as much.

>>261441103
Great music, visuals and campaign, but very mediocre skirmish.

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>>261442040
>people actually enjoying RTS multiplayer rather than the action packed and emotionally involved single player

eat shit fag, might as well go play ASSFAGGOTS

>>261442014
;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXajx7l4VxE

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>>261437335

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>>261442298
>emotionally involved single player
>fucking tiberium wars

>>261436465
coh2 is so much fucking better now than it was at release

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mZZiI4ShQ

Best RTS intro or best intro ever?

>>261441294
Nope. USAF has a massive advantage over Laser.

You only played no rush 20, didn't you?

>>261441546
Yeah play more RTS. Blobs will only get you so far outside of macrospam RTS like Starcraft.

>>261442491
Yeah, thanks to the awesome videos with familiar faces and solid acting. KW is even better.

>>261442298
>singleplayer
Tiberium wars has probably the shittiest campaigns for the whole C&C series, if anything they are absolute boredom, could barely force myself to complete Nod campaign, that's not counting Kane's Wrath one which is even more tedious and long.

>>261442656

Enjoy it while i last. Just wait until Sega starts making commanders buyable as DLC and the game becomes p2w.

>>261441959

>>261442298
>>261442752
>being the cancer killing RTS

Tiberium Wars used to be better than RA2 because it was the blobbiest RTS ever, then they patched it out in 1.09 without fixing the balance, then developed an expansion around the shitty new version. What was left was basically a worse Generals with a decent interface.

>>261442014
Only good for the custom games.

>>261441139
When did Tyranids get so fucking slow?

>>261443228
>anything
>worse than Generals

>>261442693
Best intro ever.

>>261441139
>no damage stalemate the slowest game
I don't remember it being this shitty.

What are good RTT games? I've seen Wargame but I'm not really into Multiplayer that much.

>>261443735
>Men of War
>Company of Heroes

>>261443401
Meh. What could you possibly know about gameplay depth?

>>261443142
its been like that you know, just nobody buys them because you can get them for free.

>>261443735
Men of war is probably the best onbe

>>261443735
Rome Total War

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What are some amazing Singleplayer RTS games, /v/? I enjoyed the fuck out of CoH and Warcraft 3, World in Conflict, WH40k:DoW. Do any of them have some interesting mechanics like open-worldish stuff, RPG elements?

>>261443735
Men of War 2

>>261443991
This

>>261443991
Men of war is INCREDIBLY fun at the low end of the skill pool, where both sides are making enough mistakes for the other to capitalize on.
2v2 matches at a LAN party where no one had played more than one or two skirmish maps were some of the most hilarious and memorable stuff I've done in a while.

>>261444048
Age of Mythology
All C&Cs
Total Annihilation
Supreme Commander, original & Forged Alliance

>>261443735
Blitzkrieg, Close combat, command mission.

>>261443917
What can you possible know about not being a douchbag?

>>261444048
Just as >>261444404 said, C&C is good, I especially recommend going for RA 2 + Yuri's Revenge addon, both have absolutely bonkers campaigns, especially in addon.

Are all RTT semi-realistic military based? Is there any one with a fantasy setting?

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>>261440534
>>261440951

Captain, I'm scared...

>>261444680
HoMM?

>>261444048
If you've never finished Sacrifice let me tell you you're in for a treat.

>>261444631
Nowhere near as much as I know about videogames. :)

>>261444779
Far away from real time

>>261444680
Warhammer: Shadow of the horned rat and Dark omen are excellent games if you can get over the outdated graphics

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>tfw bought coh2 for 10 bucks off of amazon a week back
>activates on steam

>>261444404
>Supreme Commander
Just chipping in here, you can actually play the campaign missions coop with up to four players through Forged Alliance Forever, blew my mind when I heard about it.

There are a few missions missing, but apart from one or two Cybran missions I think they've all been made to work with several players.

Definitely worth checking out, I had a complete blast bro-oping the fuck out of FA's campaign and the survival maps.

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>>261444791
>>261444678
>>261444404

Okay, thanks guys

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>>261438156
>>261437369
>>261437043
>>261435254
CnC shockwave was the best!
Zero hour was never compatible for 64 bit Win 7, I've tried many times for a fix, anybody got good news for me?

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Its me! bergetiger-kun, i-ill do my best to repair you! Just hold on ok?

>>261445365
All I know is it's working fine for me, but I dug out my old original CD's and installed from those.

>>261445407
Man, that thing could just completely turn around a late game if things went right.
PE Represent.

>>261445365
I used a patch from gentools or something

it made it 1080p as well!

>>261443894
>CoH
>RTT
LOL NOPE

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>>261441896
>>261442120
>>261444742

Has anyone played the multiplayer lately? Or is it dead?

>>261446249
It's not totally dead, but it's close.

I mostly play the Modern Warfare mod, anyways. Unlimited missile boners.

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>>261445943
Ohhhh I am so grateful anon!!
Gonna get this shit running asap

>>261439615
RTT just doesn't have the freedom i like. It always feels more like squad level to me.

>>261446249
Wish I knew, have the game somewhere and would like to play again, finding it is the real issue.
But that game was really fun.
>tfw carpet bombing
>tfw TacNuke
>tfw people had mic's and you could work as a solid team
good times

>>261445096
you expected different at this point?

>>261446407
also make sure you're running it in admin, old games seem to want full perms

>>261446514
>RTT doesn't have to freedom I like
No shit, you use whats given to you, which is why its tactics.

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after years i rebought

> sup com fa
> knights and merchants
> rise of nations
> earth 2150

what can i expect? did they age well?

also: is there a chance to get the manual of pic related - that thing was awesome

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what's the best men of war game?

>>261447062
>Singleplayer
Men of war
>Multiplayer
Assault squad 2

>>261447305
how alive is the multiplayer in Assault Squad 2
probably pick it up when its on sale.

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>>261447028
I can't speak for any but supcom FA, and yes that game has aged BEAUTIFULLY. It still looks great and plays great. I would recommend downloading forged alliance forever, it essentially continued balancing and patching after gas powered games died. It also added more colors, 12 player maps, a lobby client for players and new/revamped Ai playstlyes. I don't see any issues with the way they're patching the game aside from considering an additional faction/ adding in tier 3 mobile AA

>>261446514
I like that RTTs make terrain and positioning really meaningfull in combat, it's like they give you a tool box with a set of gameplay rules and then lets you freely develop a tactical approach, RTS are more restrained in that you must follow a build order and a set number of strategies to maximize economic output, this being the only effective way to guarantee a victory.

>>261447028
>SupCom FA
Yes, it's only gotten better with time with all the awesome additions to the game that the community has come up with like Hotbuild, coop support for the campaigns and a metric assload of gameplay enhancements, both graphical and balance-wise.
Look up Forged Alliance Forever and download it off of there, it's by far the best way to play the game.

>Rise of Nations
Aside from the online being dead thanks to Gamespy doing belly up the game has aged like wine and you shouldn't encounter any issues playing it on a modern computer what so ever.

>Earth 2150
This one hasn't aged all that well in my opinion, the pathfinding was bad on release and these days it's bad enough to make it near unplayable in my book.

>Empire Earth
See above, the pathfinding is atrocious and skirmish really isn't anywhere near as fun as I remember it being. Campaigns are still awesome as hell though.

>>261435254
>Favorite strategies
In Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion.
One planet, one fleet. Everything else is destroyed.

The Vasari Loyalist's ability to completely drain planets of their resources and then destroy them goes around upkeep, letting you max out fleet size easily and makes it to your enemies can't retake planets. Plus having everything on your fleet makes you invincible as long as your Titan is still alive.

It's risky, because once you run out of money you're done, but it's super effective as a late game strategy.

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>>261435254
I loved pic related, even though I only managed to try the demo.

>>261447975
rise of nations on steam now and has working MP
its glorious anon

>>261446407
>>261446743
ALSO

DO NOT INSTALL IT IN PROGRAM FILES HOLY SHIT

fucking GOAT RTS coming through

DEFCON motherfuckers, made by Introversion, makers of Uplink, Darwinia and Prison Architect

free demo on steam, includes multiplayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCpVpIBqaJg

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Loved the unit designs in this game, but holy fuck, the pathfinding was atrocious.
I once saw one of my units circle the entire damn map just to reach a place about 5 pixels away, with no terrain inbetween.

>>261447975
>>261447653
>FAF
My negros, I've been playing on and off since the game launched back in '07 and I swear the game just keeps getting better and better after FAF took over for GPGNet as the main method of playing online. So much great shit has been added to the game it's ridiculous.

Just look up a replay with RK's explosions enabled too see how good the game looks these days.

>>261448287
Not him, but as nice as it is to see RoN getting a remake the online community was basically DoA. Last time I looked I saw like three games being hosted online. I really wouldn't recommend buying it to play it online with anyone other than friends, LAN support is still in thankfully, unlike the remake of Age of Empires 2.

>>261448163
I spend 2 days figuring how to play it on W7,
I fucking hate the "nukes" in campaign so annoying

>>261447623
there are people playing it

>>261448809
I'd love to play more FA but my CPU is too shit to run it at a reasonable speed.

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>>261442491
>>261442914
>>261443228

I didn't mean Tiberium Wars you shits

my embarrassing confession is that I never really playthrough the original C&Cs much, just the RA series

but yeah, I'd say a sweet ass single player game maybe with some bro-op or something trumps Korean level clickfests with online micromanagement

>>261436149
Trying to finish the main campaign still. Why is it such a freaking grind?

>>261448613
fuck off

>>261449127
That's a shame anon, I really wish Supcom wasn't single threaded. If there was any way at all to squeeze something like the pathfinding onto a secondary thread the game would be pretty much playable on any toaster out there.

Sadly that would require access to the source code of the engine.

>>261449527
I know, takes fucking forever to build anything but I find it completely worth it because of projectiles. Now i'd never force it on anybody else but in skirmishes, yes.

>>261449527
Well, if it makes you feel better, SupCom2 has great pathfinding. That's all that's really great though.

>>261449769
Yeah, it's also quite a lot better optimized. Shame everything else about it is garbage though.

>>261449769
>>261449897
I like the idea of researching a tech tree while still playing but losing all the unit variety was not worth it. If they could combine the good stuff of 2 into 1 it'd be the best RTS ever.

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>>261445773
Blog time guys.
>Playing 4v4 with friends
>They all pick normal germans, two goes blitzkrieg, one goes terror
>I go PE
>Luftwaffe doctrine
>Become the team backbone annoyance
>Falschirms everywhere
>Suprise buttsex behind enemy AT guns
>Have bergetigers right behind our lines
>Suddenly allies get mad
>Our tank army is gone
>Rangers and airborne AT guns everywhere
>Calliopes raining fire
>Britbongs having fun with the hotwizer
>Everybody thinks it's over
>BERGETIGERS REPRESENT
>TIGERS UP AND OPERATIONAL
>KING TIGER BACK IN THIS BITCH
>PANZER 4? MORE LIKE PANZER 20
>Win by a margin
Those were good times.

Also pic related, we defended this point for like 1 and a half hour. Shit was so cash.

>>261450056
That's pretty much the exact same way I feel. Not so much a research tree as just upgrades for units however. Not really sure how I would implement any of this either.

>>261450292
Generalized upgrades rather than for specific units. Like all ground tanks now have some god awful AA. Or better yet make experimentals feel more like experimental units rather than t4 and have them be as customizable as Coms. Preferably Black Ops mod coms.

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anyone playing this? LittleWarGame, free web browser game that's surprisingly enjoyable for how simple it is. Too bad there's not many players, I usually only see 60 people on the lobby.

Anyone wants to gitgud with me? we can play some games though I'm chilling now. If anyone's interested just tell me

>>261450068
>those half dead 88s
did you repair them?

>>261450068
Honestly only problem I had with CoH playing against Germans was how they could upgrade their units so easily with veterancy.
Like Rangers got nerf'd into oblivion, not sure why but Germans could get KnightsCross Full vet and have fucking super soldiers.

>>261450624
>Generalized upgrades rather than for specific units
I think a mix of both could be really cool. Like making the EMP stun of the medusa be an upgrade you have to research, or increasing the effective range of decievers for example. Perhaps an upgrade that adds a new weapon to a unit as well, like giving titans back the missile launcher on their backs that they used to have back in the closed betas.

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>>261450956
We were in constant state of making new volks squads to man those 88's and engies to fix them.
After 1,5 hour the enemies just gave up and disconnected.
Pic from second side of the map, where I was making my own autismfort. Just in case they'd lose their cornerfuck.

>>261451149
Aryan Master Race, man.
Note, though that US veterancy bonuses were usually quite a bit higher. But yeah, rangers were a bit crap. Bazookas had GREAT damage, but crap penetration.

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>tfw Shockwave mod for Gens

Love it, love using the new generals.

>>261451656
Better yet, upgrades for damage reduction towards arty so that not every endgame devolves into arty war even though that's what I personally love. Also, more turrets, loads more turrets. Only having 1 of each type of turret killed me in 2.

>>261448745
Is the game anywhere as rad as that cover art?

>>261452391
>Endgame devolves into arty war
Don't think I've ever seen that happen in games outside of shitmaps like Thermo or Gap of Rohan.

You mean stationary or mobile arty?

>>261452784
Well, big games devolve into stationary arty wars. And I love me some big games.

>>261452298
It's okay but Shockwave has always been more about quantity than quality. I like more streamlined vanilla mods without redundant units and shit that was added for the sake of adding shit.

>>261447623
Reasonably alive after the sale, i'm getting people to play against pretty quickly when using the matchmaker.

>>261451847
>after an hour and a half they gave up and disconnected
oh fuck my sides anon, you did gods work

>>261453735
>Shockwave
>Redundant
Uh. . . Disagree. There's fairly little same-role redundancy for any given general. The worst instance is probably having three classes of MBT for the tank general, but how the hell is that a problem?

>>261455016
Last I checked the game was also plagued with major balance issues. Still, whenever SHW gets brought up these days they say the mod team has finally focused on quality towards the final release.

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why all the hate for CnC Tiberium Wars? I really enjoyed it. I liked how the aliens came in and got fukken curb stomped. But I still prefer Tiberian Sun.

>>261455189
There's still a couple balance problems, like the 4th GLA general's quad cannon tanks being too multipurpose, but overall it's pretty damn good, and those identifiable issues that still exist are being patched out by the fan community while the devs focus on Rise of the Reds.

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Why doesn't /rtsg/ have quality discussion like this? Why do I have to come to /v/ to talk about video games?

>>261455624
Besides being the only game in the C&C series for them to patch the fun out?

The lethality is low, the micro is weak because the units are so clunky, the braindead stripmining economy is boring and centralizing, and Avatar spam is overpowered to this day. Greg Black and Jason Bender were incompetent and no match for Dustin Browder, who designed Red Alert 2 and Generals. Those games were far more imbalanced but they were imbalanced in a much more interesting way.

>>261456817
I still prefer 1.06. The vanilla game with increased depth beats out any major expansion in my opinion.

>>261456884
I love how Mow can punish blobings and recklessness.

>>261455189
>That fucking crododile
Every
Time

>>261457508
Meant to quote
>>261456884

CoH Online Beta with friends on 3vs3/4vs4 was the most fun I've ever had.

>>261456958
I hear ya there. I hated a lot of the little things in that game, like how vehicles would drive in the opposite direction of where I told them to go, or those goddamn flamethrowers that were so powerful. But I do love spamming me some Black Hand squads.

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>>261442047
the same people who fucked up end of nations? yeah I'm not impressed with them right now

>>261448163
it's like only two people care about it and have played it and one of them is me

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Wargame: Red Dragon's on sale, it's ok

>>261458543
Yeah CoHO was great, no idea why they canned it and then made CoH1+expansions such shit compared.

>>261458913
Airland battle had a terrible campaign, did they fix it?
Because EE actually had really fun missions

>>261459442

RD's campaigns are more fun, but it's still the whole RISK game board approach rather than mission-based.

>>261459442
>campaign
>not getting it for the online play

>>261458913
I tried airland battle but absolutely sucked at it. Was pretty fun game.

>>261460707
red drags worth 20 bucks, and really depends what you do with your army, i rolled russians and got cheap tanks and tons of SPAAG
all that dakka was hilarious even if it didnt work half the time

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>>261456884
>all that fire
Beautiful.

And man, /rtsg/ really went to shit.
It's a shame, the earlier threads were pretty good.

>>261441012
>>261441997
The fans managed to get the source code released and there's a fan project now. They even added multi-turrets (but only on the new retarded superheavy bodies that nobody will ever get to research).

Just FYI

>>261458913

I absolutely hated that game after trying it.
I shouldn't have listened to /v/ regarding that.

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>>261435741
>high gold
also the player in the gif is american, not korean

>>261435254
>RTS
Man, coupled with TBS my favorite genre. Played the shit out of it ages ago. CnC, KKND, Earth 2140... good stuff.

I wonder does anybody here remember the name of a certain RTS, I only played a demo. By now it's probably a 14+ years old game.
The setting was underwater, slightly futuristic, it had pretty cool graphics and you could avoid incoming torpedoes by changing how deep were your units submerged, there were like 4-5 presets.

>>261463278

Harpoon?

Jane's Fleet Command?

>>261439615
Two different genres, hard to compare them good-to-bad.

Relic and other companies abandoning RTS for RTT is part of the clamoring people have for involved RTS right now. A lot of people just like building bases as part of their RTS gameplay.

>>261462650
the multiplayer or the single ,player?

Who Dune 2000 here?

STILL THE BEST

>>261463798
Both.
Singleplayer was unplayable, because the AI seemed to basically cheat, and see all my troop movements, and the multiplayer was annoying as fuck, made no sense, and everything I had died the moment I tried to use it, and every match seemed to boil down to either artillery spam, or some shit I didn't even understand.

Having to read trough over 100 page guide just to understand wtf is going on is rather unreasonably high requirement for partaking in multiplayer games, in my opinion.

Fuck that game. I regret spending money on it.

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>>261464353

that's too bad

>>261463714
thanks but nope. Guess I will keep searching a bit.

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What RTS has the best skirmish type mode?

I don't like playing campaigns or anything (unless its it Total War or Civ which technically isn't RTS)

Ridiculously happy to see that Rise of Nations: Extended Edition was put on Steam.

>>261464556
Yeah, that is all neat and cool looking. Too bad that unless you invest shit tons of time to the game, you won't see your jet fighters do anything but crash and burn when some random bushhumping anti air gun shoots them down from the other side of the map.

I was lured into the game by vids, gifs and webs like that. They do not represent the gameplay well at all.

>>261464729
Supreme Commander 2, Rise of Nations, and Sins of a Solar Empire have great AI skirmish modes from my experience.

In RoN and SupCom 2, you're gonna need to tweak game settings a bit beforehand to get an optimal experience. Like turning off nukes in RoN if you're a beginner. Man, fuck nukes.

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>>261463278
Picrelated, based stuff, I remember a quote from some journal "While Starcraft commands on the ground, Submarine Titans rule the oceans".

>>261464353
>having to read a 100 page guide just to understand wtf is going on
the fuck are you talking about? do you lack the basic awareness skills to keep track of whats happening? or is it just too much information for you?

>>261464981
>SupCom 2

I thought people said that game was shit

>>261465326
Nah, it just wasn't the sequel to FA that they wanted.

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Shit expansion for an awesome game.

>>261464885
>sending Harrier jets against landing craft
>is the same as sending them against AA
thats where you fucked up

>Implying SupCom isn't still the best RTS

>>261465152
hah that's it!

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Any comfy RTS games?

>>261465758
pick men

>>261465296
When I tried to ask advice on how to "git gud" at the game on /vg/, they pointed me to over 100 page guide for the game. Put me off from it pretty much immediately.
Also, it is the combination of both too much options and info, and too little explanation of what all that fucking info means, that puts me off the game, and makes it impossible to figure out how to effectively do anything, for me at least.

I mean, compare the game to supcom. There are tons of units in supcom (not as much as in AirlandBattle, but still reasonably many), and one could potentially get confused about all the options, however, each units has a clear description to it's role, be it light mobile artillery, scout, siege bot etc. Whereas ALB, if I recall correctly at least, just gives me a bunch of stats and no explanation to what they mean in practice, which basically means that I gotta test them out to see how they work, and invest shit tons of time to just figure out the basics, which I am unwilling to do. I got better things to do than spend my time getting curb stomped until I become even able to play the fucking game.

>>261465553
As much as I agree with you anon it's usually not a good sign if you're not able to say why you think so.

>>261465758
Populous

>>261465871
I mean something with a war setting

>>261465758
AoE 3

>The muffled cannons when you're doing something else
>The atmosphere in general

>>261436465
We need an EIR/OMG mod for CoH. Though OMG is back alive for CoH1

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>>261465758
Company of heroes

>>261460673
>Playing strategy games in multiplayer
The concept is absolutely foreign for me.
The genre is only fun in single player with well designed missions

>>261465553
SupCom is terrible.

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>>261466589

>>261435254
What game is it in the OP?

>>261466589
You should try playing them with friends anon. Playing Zero Hour at LAN parties with friends back in high school are some of my fondest memories in gaming.

>>261466527
>using at shells to kill two guys
why would you even try that?

>>261465957
>Likes SupCom
>Doesn't like Wargame

You really are a faggot. Learn basic military hardware. Seriously.

>>261466812
except RTS games take hours to finish.
I remember wasting an entire night in rise of nations just to end in a draw.
everyone was so pissed we banned RTS from lan parties.
main game became [spopiler]COD[/spoiler]
but it was the first one so it is okay

>>261466789
It's not a bait when you (or the other anon, whatever) are the one who brought up multiplayer.
I couldn't give less fuck about it.

>>261465467
Why's it shit?

>>261466589
>not wanting to match your skills against other people
I dunno, some people dont like multiplayer games in general and I cant understand those types of gamers, so to each their own I guess.

>>261440534
that looks so much like world of tanks

>>261467129
>rts games take hours to finish
>I remember wasting an entire night in rise of nations
youre just fucking bad.
Also you wanna talk about long RTS? Dont ever play Sins Of A Solar Empire then

>>261467129
Zero Hour should never take hours to finish. You're doing something seriously wrong if that happens.
Sounds like you've just been playing the wrong games.

>>261467000
I probably could learned to like Wargame, if it had presented vital information for being able to play it as well as Supcom does.
Unfortunately, it doesn't, and I have no interest in investing massive amounts of my time in just learning the basics of that game.
Good for you if you managed to get into it, in my case, the game, and my experiences with it and it's community, turned me off from it permanently.

If I want to see large scale battles, I can do that far, far better in Supcom, and derive far greater amounts of enjoyment from it, so why bother wasting shittons of time in a game that doesn't even bother trying to be accessible to newcomers, and just get angry and frustrated?

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>>261466914
AI was set to easy. I was playing a game against the AI with the only purpose to build as many walking stukas as I could and fuck shit up. I ended up having 15

>>261466812
AoE II and StarCraft LAN in high school was glorious
We also did Halo PC

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>ctrl+f
>homeworld
>1 hit
thread needs more homeworld

>>261467674
Man, how has CoH aged so perfectly while DoW1 aged like shit?

>>261436120
Crusader Kings 2.

Holy Roman Emperor is a dick. I swear most of the time he doesn't even need a Causus Belli, he just wants to grab land because he's a dick like that.

>>261467834
HomeWorld remastered cant come soon enough.

>>261467510
>Sins Of A Solar Empire
I have played it
single player

>>261467614
shitty CNC, I don't like it

>>261467510
I dunno, RoN does take a lot of time, like every AoE-type game.

Would you rather have units with logical names or names of mythical shit based on their nationality? Also, is it possible to balance more than 3 to 4 factions while still making them unique? Doesn't have to be perfectly balanced but so that any game is capable of being won.

>>261468130
Crusader Kings
>RTS
Fuck outta here

>>261468214
>sins
it was rather boring in singleplayer imo
fantastic in multi

>>261468321
It's a strategy, and unless you're a pleb, you play it real time.

Yeah, I'm being pedantic, sorry. I was just answering the guy's question because I don't check how many posts are in a thread because I'm a fag.

brb killing self

>>261468214
If you're saying Generals is a shitty C&C, you're probably talking about the singleplayer, in which case, yes, it's the worst in series besides C&C4.

But it's got the best multiplayer, especially once modded.

If you're saying C&C in general is shit and you don't like it: Fuck you.

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Wargame: Red dragon. Even though i suck at it

>>261468214
Single player isnt bad, its the only RTS I didnt like multiplayer because if you didnt finish a match good fucking luck trying to get everyone back to finish it later on.
>>261468220
I mean Ive played like 5 hour long matches sometimes on RoN but an entire night for one match? Doing something wrong.

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>>261468214
I really like Sins single player. Maybe I'm just autistic enough to just enjoy building an empire without that much of a challenge opposing me. Plus I like turning off unit indicators and taking screenshots.

>>261465758
CnC and Age of games are very comfy. Warlords Battlecry for that fantasy and voices. Some Warcraft III parts.

Between Airland Battle and European Escalation which would you get?

>>261468772
Red Dragon

>>261468571
The real problem with red dragon is that it's such a huge pain in the ass to learn to play properly.

The AI is useless for practice, the tutorials are WORSE than useless, and the community isn't particularly helpful to boot. There's a great game there, but good luck ever getting into it without another noob friend to play with.

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>Hear that a new Age of Empires will be released
>It's a shitty mobile game

>>261468772
Afaik there is a sale on steam where you get all 3 for a really good price.

>>261466796
The cancelled Command and Conquer Generals 2

>>261468927
AoFE was released, that was pretty good. Then it got released for money, for plebs who don't realise that mods are free.

>>261468889
Ok, heres how you play, the game has a lot of units but a lot of the units do the same thing but some are better then others but the better ones cost more so you have to really learn how to make a cost effective but strong army and what to send out against what, thats basically the jist of the game.

>>261469028
And thank god it was cancelled. F2P is NOT a good subgenre for RTS.

>>261455624
A many people love it.

>>261468772
Airland battle had a nearly unplayable campaign.
European escalation had a good campaigns if you like Sudden strike-like mechanics, although I've heard multiplayer patches screwed with balance.
Airland battle is sort of obsolete as far as I understand, since Red dragon is a go to for multiplayer and has the same TW style campaign system but more fixed.

>>261468235
I can't even remember that much of games that have more than 3 different factions, with only example being March of War TBS, which has like 6 factions, it seems to be not that horribly imbalanced, I think it just takes some time, nice community touch and dev who actually loves his own project.

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>no mention of any star wars rts games

You people.

>>261467834
that shadowing looks like ass

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>sitting in a dark room deep in the night
>dead silence outside
>exploring space
>killing space niggers with your huge armada
comfy/10

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>>261467674
>>261466527
gonna post the rest

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>>261469578

>>261469578
Empire at war had some sweet space battles, but balance was beyond any point of understanding, how in the hell rebels are alot more stronger in direct combat than Empire?

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>>261469675

>>261469831
Wasn't Battlegrounds just a straight AoE2 reskin pretty much?

>>261469854
Because the Empire could spawn bombers and fighters. You need to micro them properly to destroy the rebels. To be honest the rebels were pretty shit in space.

>>261469595
It's well over a decade old. It's fucking fantastic.

>>261469578
Empire At War had great space combat, but shit ground combat. Like most SW RTS.

>>261469675
>>261469925
S-Strupid Sexy Stukas. . .

>>261469578

What. What game is that?
I only know Empire at War.
Really liked that game.

>>261465758
mini metro
Even through it's more of a mobile puzzle games that's not on mobile.

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>>261469641
get on my level space nigger

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>>261469831

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>>261469550
> with only example being March of War TBS, which has like 6 factions
How about 28 factions

Well, actually the game has closer to 70, they are just spread between 3 different eras where some are inheritors of earlier factions, some are brand new and some are mutations of the old

>>261470110
>Not knowing the AoE 2 of Star Wars RTS

Galactic Battlegrounds

>>261470109
>It's well over a decade old
Wait, was that in original game too?

>>261467647
>>261465957

I can see where you're coming from to be honest. Wargame is super rewarding once you get into it but a bitch to learn and pretty intimidating.

Lots of games out there are easy to learn but very difficult to master, Wargame is tough to learn and hard to be good in general, unless you sink loads of time into it. It's a shame you didnt like it and I agree that you don't get much of an idea of what it's about from the adverts and marketing.

>>261469550

HoMM has multiple factions. Not sure if every game is balanced though, but most were iirc.

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>>261470027
Pretty much, but it was still good.

There's actually a mod team working to fix that issue. They're planning to make it more like Generals with the different subfaction choices.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/star-wars-galactic-battlegrounds-expanding-fronts

Got a lot of cool shit.

>>261470110
Galactic Battlegrounds.

>>261470294
How much different they are? Because if this is just some Civ/RoN level of unique, then it kinda nothing special.

>>261458543
Fuck yeah CoH:O was really great.

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>No one ever talks about Cossacks

>>261470608
Damn, how could I forget about that.

>>261470608
The only one worth playing (3) had horrific balance. Conflux and Necropolis just shit on everything.

>>261470817
I heard more people talk about Cossacks than Kohan. That shit is underrated.

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>>261440534

post your face when this happened and you got an immediate, infinite amount of fire support

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI_GEi5UmA

>>261463915
Always preferred Dune 2 and C&C:TD

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>>261470817
>mfw changing match rules to start with Army of Peasants

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>>261464981
SupCom2 don't even mention it you piece of shit.

>>261464885
>I was lured into the game by vids, gifs and webs like that. They do not represent the gameplay well at all.

This. You will spend 99% of Wargame zoomed out to the point that you can only see red and blue labels. The trailers almost make it look like Company of Heroes scale game

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>Sc2, Zerg
>Get masters before Queen buff
>Get called patchzerg anyway
>mfw

Played through WCS S2 then called it quits because Blizzard hates amateurs

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>>261466527
>breeze blowing papers to the left
>flags blowing to the right

>>261471502
Yeah, I have high hopes for Eugen's return to more conventional RTS soon.

>>261452438
late answer, sorry.
It had some interesting concepts, like battlecards and increasing income based on how well you killed the other guy.
The battlecards ranged from giving a bunch of units super movement or shooting speed, doing huge aoe damage to any units caught in the area, to making enemy factories produce at a fraction of their original speed, to summoning an entire army of shadow soldiers and mechanoids.

Also, the mechs had some different abilities, the one that stands out in my mind being the one that instakilled any infantry that was covered by the exhaustflame of it's xboxhueg missile strapped to the back of the mech.

>Also, that music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-StmWEpRPrI

>>261435741
Grey Goo, coming soon

>>261469403
It wasn't supposed to be a F2P at first. Just a regular RTS.

>>261439615
tactics is better handled at the turned based level, thus making strategy the better real time thinking game

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>>261466812
Oh god this
>Playing Generals with a bro
>Concentrating on defence
>Haven't seen my friends army in a while
>Look at his base
>He has 100+ Angry Mobs marching across the map, slowing the whole game down

>>261472289
it was announced that it would be F2P
>inb4 sauce
I saw it, I sware on me mum

>>261471525
>2014
>Still in denial

>>261472482
>at first

One important bit in his post.

>>261472289
When they announced it as Generals 2 it was going to be a standard release. Then when they rebranded it to "COMMAND AND CONQUER THE REBOOT" it was F2P.

>>261450068
>4v4 at a LAN
>Play British commandos
>I'm opposite the best player in the room
>Go all out early game
>Full map control
>Commandos everywhere
>Dropping support wherever my team members need it as well
>Game is almost over
>Suddenly King Tiger
>He was saving the entire match
>Pushed right back to our bases by the fucking thing
That was a great match. I eventually got it with some lucky airstrikes and we won, but no wonder it's part of the terror doctrine.

>>261465758
BFME is 20/10 comfy

>>261472837
I was so fucking pissed when they did that.

Generals was one of the few really good EA games, even if it shouldn't really have been a CnC game.

>>261473007
Seconded

>>261472837
>Then when they rebranded it to "COMMAND AND CONQUER THE REBOOT" it was F2P.

And they broke my tiny heart.

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>>261470671
Because the game uses sprite graphics and focuses on a content over the presentation, it can afford to have extremely different factions.
There are some general types like humans nations, giant nations and underwater nations, but even within those types there's a significant differences. Strategies that work for some factions can be absolutely useless for others (or completely negative), and there are often specific gameplay quirks for each nation that need to be taken into account.
For example, a nation of human eating jews has access to amazing units, but those happen to kill the population in provinces where they stay so you have to manage them carefully. No other nation has access to anything similar, not even other giants. Some other giants have stronger than human average normal units, while others have fat but blind units and mental worms, while 3rd one spreads cold and fatigue wherever it goes.
And then there are few mechanically unique nations like nation of undead, nation of fliers or a psionic mind enslave nation that's practically stuck underwater.
Over 3 ages balance shifts, super special magical races slowly get diluted by human blood, nations loose their special abilities or get replaced.

The faction balance is overall okay and can be tiered - some stronger than average nations, some perfectly fine winner contesters, some weaker than average but still playable with smart tactics. And then a few oddballs that have no chance in any serious game like an underwater nation i mentioned before (around 4 out of 28 for a first era I'd say)

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Did anyone play Heroes of Annihilated Empires? How is it?

>>261473272
>>261473007
That and putting it on the "un-moddable" Frostbite engine.

A C&C game without mods. What the actual fuck.

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>>261472994
Battle for Middle Earth 2 was so fucking great.

>>261445407

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=olCr7ZyaDnQ#t=668

>>261473286
and exactly what game is this

>>261473286

I definitely want to get into Dominions, but it's supposed to be autismal in complexity and MP-focused which is awful.

Is the AI really that shit?

Also, you play as a god in it, do you get to do Black & White-esque stuff or are you just a king of sorts?

>>261473750
It's the small things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mwJaQCf6to

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>Dwarf
>Empire
>High Elf
>Knight
>Barbarian
>Fey
>Minotaur
>Ssrathi
>Wood Elf
>Daemon
>Dark Elf
>Dark Dwarf
>Orc
>Plaguelord
>The Swarm
>Undead
Pick your poison. Fey were my favourite.

>>261473634

I played that mod for Medieval 2 with LotR.
That was really good.

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>2007 game still shitting on every RTS game to date

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>>261473634
> bfme 1
> lan with a friend
> us vs 2 KI mordor
> black gate
> 2mins into the game hundreds of orcs flood the gate but can't get into your base because your one regiment + theoden are holding them off
> finaly get theodens imba rohirim skill
> rush trough hundreds of orcs with 2 regiments of riders + theoden

breddy gud

How to git gud at C&C95

>>261472159
And it looks horrible.

>>261474276
this is the game which introduced me to cheatengine and hex editors because i just wanted all spells for my wizard

>>261473414
It was ok. Worth a try.

Is RoN on steam worth it? I've been trying to play Blitzkrieg but it's 2hard4me

>>261473286

Is Dominions 4 any good? 3 is fucking amazing

>>261474016

It's pretty autismal and consequently the AI can't handle it

There's all kinds of crazy magic in it, look at the spell list in the manual, shit is insane

>playing as Ermor, think Rome but everyone is undead because of Zombie Jesus
>cast a spell called Burden of Time that increases the rate of aging by a massive degree
>almost everybody in the world withers, dies and joins my skeleton legions within a few turns

Favorite thing I did in that game

>>261465326
Its not a bad game, but it took about everything that made SupCom kinda unique (mainly the Scale, Prototypes that meant something) and streamlined it.

It just not a worthy succesor. Would be neat with another name though.

>>261474276
Minotaur master race, undead need not apply.

Can we not buy the Command and Conquer IP and make a game that justifies the name?

>>261465326
It's an RTS made for consoles.

>>261464981
sins of a solar empire has the problem that you just have to survive, because at some point the AI seems to just stop working. Therefore it can be a struggle in the beginning, but once you are over that its pretty much gg.

>>261474971
Nice choice. They were pretty solid all round. Fuck early game barbarians though.

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>>261473869
Dominions 4

>>261474016
AI is pretty shit, there are a few minor tweak mods that sort of help with it buy helping with the build orders, but it's still absolutely incompetent and deeper game mechanics.
Incompetent doesn't mean not challenging though, at higher difficulties it can just spam you with hordes to death and you have to manage resources a bit better.

You play god, but you can be a different sort of god. You can be a dragon or a buff dude going around slaping armies manually.
You can be a wizard magicking shit, searching magic sites and crafting shit.
You can be a tree stuck in capital and only existing to provide land buffs and cast super spells
There's actually far more types and cross mixing, but i give you just a general idea

And by super magic spells I mean word altering shit. You can age the entire world's population like >>261474890 anon said and depopulate everything, leaving everyone without armies unless they are immortal or undead.
You can send Lovecraft horrors towards people. You can make your people more healthy or lucky or just create hordes of robots to protect them..


>>261474890
4 is all around better than 3 except for a few pieces of lore here and there (they rewrote the time line of ermor for example) and maybe a bit of balance (few nations like maverni got hit by a train)
Interface is better, overall pace and balance are improved and it has more content plus active support.
Overall it's a pretty straight up improvement.