>undead are inherently evil >animating the dead/creating

is this game - torment?

>>261289037
well, yeah. I mean, you never see a good guy animating the dead.

wait, isn't this Neverwinter or whatever it's called

spill your guts /tg/

>>261289861
Its neverwinter nights

>>261289037
I don't remember nwn having skeelies, isn't that a mod?

>poop diarrhea carrot fuck
>asshole tsunami whore

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Daily reminder that there's literally nothing wrong with necromancy.

Don't believe paladin propaganda.

it depends on how its done

if making undead requires you to torture and bind someone's innocent soul or actively spread the metaphysical representation of evil by existing then yeh, they're evil

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>>261289037

>Making a "Bone" golem or a "Flesh" golem is usually seen as being no different from creating a "Rock" or an "Iron" golem, ethically speaking.
>But create an animated skeleton or a zombie and suddenly you're the Antichrist.

>or perhaps through a freak or magic or divine will, will imbue a skeleton with intelligence
>will, will

bad writing

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>>261289037
Guild Wars 1 did it right. The god of necromancy was the god of justice.

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>>261290093

>>261290283
How can you say it's evil to murder a pregnant women and slice out her heart for a ritual to become a lich and attain unlimited cosmic power, if I use that unlimited cosmic power to save the world?

Are there any games you can play as a Necromancer? Like where that is the main focus of the game.

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>>261290093

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>>261289037

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/tg/ has some of the best campaigns

We need more skelly races

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Necromancy should only be considered evil if you're binding souls in order to reanimate the dead without their consent. Simply animating corpses isn't evil, though of course if you don't want to be an asshole or break any laws, you should probably get the consent of that body's owner or guardian.

However in D&D's shitty default game world and in forgotten realms, evil and good are actual forces rather than nebulous moral concepts. Pretty fucking stupid, but there you have it.

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>>261290093

>>261290760
because becoming a lich requires an evil act so it can't be done with good intentions

also liches have no human emotions so even if you became one, you'd stop giving a crap about the world

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>>261290760

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>>261291206
>Necromancy should only be considered evil if you're binding souls
without lawful authority. May the sinners serve in death as they never would in life!
>>261291006
mfw

>>261291463
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>261290252
In ToME4, you can use paladin spells as undead, and undead even gain more benefit from them than other races.

Uh oh. I'm getting that itch to play NWN again.

>>261291679
legally fucking with people's souls is some good lawful evil stuff

still evil

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>>261291206
I want to bone that cat.

>>261291463
But it wasn't evil. She was a necromancer, so killing her was alright.

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>>261291801

Name of mod pls

>>261289037
check your privilege, living scum

>>261291206
I like TES take on it. Necromancers are often not trusted because it's a bit morbid to have your dead grandfather stumbling about, but there's nothing inherently evil about animating the bones of the dead.

>>261290942
Damn. I want a game that lets me be like this and then let me be the boss for once. Not that Overlord shit we got. I want something like Temple of Elemental Evil + XCOM.

>>261291913
apex kek

>>261291913

Fuck off you bigoted Cartilogenophobe

>>261291930
and becoming a lich requires an evil act so it fails

you have to do evil

>>261290183

Did you just smash some words on your keyboard and post it?

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>>261291913
But we're all skeleton posters. Even the landwhales.

>>261291920
Skeleton jelly isn't even a REAL skeleton, he's just jelly

>>261290832
Nekro, early access on steam atm

games where i can play as an undead?
i thought those characters in WoW was cool as all hell but i don't want to play that game.

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>>261292397
Don't judge a skeleton by his cover.

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>>261292165
GW1 used to be that. Necromancers were canonically lawful and completely overpowered in gameplay for many years.

ah NWN2, what class is most fun to play?

>>261291006
thats amazing

>>261291463
>becoming a lich requires an evil act so it can't be done with good intentions
This doesn't really make any sense. You can do "evil" acts and justify it via "the greater good", thereby making it with the best of intentions. It may not be acceptable in everone's books, but it is with good intentions.

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>>261292546
I DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE YOU, NIGGER

>>261291463
>fuck the world i am a lich and i will just float in space.

nope, The lich is curiousity, intellect and power unbound by morality.

Being a lich is evil without question

>N-no, it's okay I'm totally a good guy. I ate those seven baby souls so I could feel the homeless forever!

Normal necromancy is just fine though, in most cases.

name of the mod?

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>>261291206
> or guardian.
Guardian?
Pretty sure there's not many places where you can go "I give you permission to re-animate my dead sons corpse"

>>261289037
>annoying the dead isn't evil

They've been through enough m8 they had a fukken gut full of bullshit and decided that it's enough

>>261292184
So? It's for the greater good, anon. Killing people is evil, but we still do it to people who mean us harm. Think of all the good you could do if you were a lich.

Get the fuck outta here with your twisted logic, paladin scum.

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>>261292568
Warhammer Fantasy.

>>261289771
What if he just learned necromancy to revive people he loved?

>>261291206
I stopped caring when I learned that Paladins/Clerics don't actually get granted power from their gods. But actually shape the world around them because they believe hard enough

Shit is fucking dumb

>>261292546
it any good? looks a bit too cartoony for me :/

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>>261292871
>fuck the world i am a lich and i will just float in space.

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>>261292873
>>261291463
Living privilege is not being marked as inherently evil.

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>>261292873
It's cool guy, they were evil babies.

>>261293153
you have to willingly do an evil act otherwise it doesn't work
a lich is powered by evil so as long as a lich exists evil is winning

just bind your soul into a golem if you really want to live forever

>>261292835
This person is your friend. He fights for your freedom. The freedom bounded by your flesh.

>>261291967
what mod

>>261292939
D&D skellies don't require souls. They're just animated bones, the previous inhabitant's soul is in the afterlife.

Consider that people donate their body to science when they die, because they realize that they won't have any use for it after they're gone. Same thing here. Bones are just bones.

>>261293351
Goblin here, most settings mark us as inherently evil.

>>261293351
Is this a mod or an expansion?

>>261291967
>>261289037

Is this shit a bestiary or actual character creation?
Please say the second one.

>>261293680
however in D&D animating a skeleton requires you to use evil magic from the plane of evil and using them causes team evil to win

sorry but that's how it works, you want non-evil skellies, use bone golems

>>261293734
That's because you guys are stupid by design.

>>261293351
Straight white guys should be marked as "inherently evil" too.

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>>261293351
>dem hands

>>261293680
the creatures you are creating as inherently malevolent, however, and as of 5e there is always a risk of them breaking away from your control and going off to eat babies.

>>261289037
>ah, my son is up and dressed i see
>go see merchant gailen

>>261293941
What the fuck is this then? >>261290942

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Spirit Detective tier:
Speaking with earthbound spirits, helping them out and forming contracts where they will animate bodies for you.

Not-Evil tier:
It's just bones magic'd to life. No souls involvement.

Dunmer Tier:
Having families in which warriors willingly sign themselves over as immortal guardians whose souls you can call on to animate the dead.

Evil tier:
Wretching souls from the afterlife into bodies and making them serve you

Evil and not really even Neromancy tier:
Binding the spirits of demons or 'outsiders' into bodies.

Get your shit together Anons.

>>261293351
Can you turn yourself?

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There's nothing quite like a nice warm bath of fresh zombie vomit.

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>>261292871
>unbound by morality.
Wizards as well.

>>261293380
>you have to willingly do an evil act otherwise it doesn't work
Sure, and that's fine. After I've done that willingly, the power is now mine to do as I wish with.

>a lich is powered by evil so as long as a lich exists evil is winning
Who cares? There will always be evil in the world, but at least I'll do my part to even things out.

>just bind your soul into a golem if you really want to live forever
That's no fun... Fucking paladins.

>>261294225
>the creatures you are creating as inherently malevolent

are*

>>261293734
Let us not play oppression olympics here. This is about the intersection struggle against human supremacy.

As an elf, I am hurt, marginalized and a victim of the violence of elf rape culture, you wouldn't beleive how many times I see "elves are for raping." This is NOT ok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co6d3h-NpS8

>>261290382
I don't think that that was that bad.

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>>261294250
I want to play a skeleton cleric that turns humans.

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>>261294039
How dare you?

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>>261291006
>want to do awesome campaigns like that
>mfw i don't have friends

>>261294376
you want to make team evil win just for your fun, that means you're evil no matter what you do

ITS SMITIN' TIME

>>261293941
Eh, no. Perhaps if you go by stupid 4E rules or something. In 3.5e, there are ways to animate bones without resorting to the plane of evil.

>>261293916
>Please say the second one.
It's a real, playable mod.

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>>261294430
Man, get the fuck out of here before you get boned.
Also
>Implying elves don't enjoy getting raped

>>261289037
The evil thing is the bones used to be the body of someone and to manipulate those bones into something that isn't just dead is unnatural.

>>261293916
It looks like the second one if you ask me, but I'm not sure.

>>261294039
We're not stupid, we just aren't muscle bound meat-heads bullying everyone around or stupid magic users. Heck, some settings mark us as the king of technology!

>>261294430
Hey, at least you're indentified as a living, breathing thing! They just see me and shrug me off "Eh, it's just a low level enemy not even worth my time"

>>261294225
>5e
top kek, that explains it

>inherently malevolent
Nope, they're just bones following your orders. But fuck it, you're using a retarded edition, so of course your skeletons will be retarded too.

>>261294745
Name of the mod?

Should I play NWN2 vanilla first or just go ahead and install that mod because skellingtons are the bomb?

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>mfw Animating the dead in DA:O was ok and was on a whole different class of magic that is practiced.

>mfw in DA:2 it suddenly became BLUD MAGIK and it's evil

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>>undead are inherently evil
behold, pure evil

>>261291006
I fucking love /tg/ some times

I wish I could ever do cool stuff too

>>261294829
>Eh, it's just a low level enemy not even worth my time
Au Contraire, an evil walking pile of bones, no matter how fragile and harmless is always worthy of a true paladin's attention

>>261294861
>Nope, they're just bones following your orders.

they're neutral evil

>But fuck it, you're using a retarded edition, so of course your skeletons will be retarded too.

raising the dead has been evil by RAW since 1e

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skeletons are the best

>>261294829
Any creature that dies in 1 shot from a composite longbow str18 isn't worth anybody's time to be honest.

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I want to fuck a skeleton.

>>261294974
you played NWN2 to late, the IGN vault which contained nearly all mods was removed a few months back, a lot of high quality mods are gone forever

>>261294764
>SHIT'S UNNATURAL!
Check your privilege, living scum. It's like you're raping the dead bones of my 6 billion forefathers all over again

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>>261295267
Just for you.

>>261295158
I'm a goblin you ass! You don't even consider our shamans to be evil!

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>>261291006
Rest in peace Necromancer bro

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>>261295369
I'm too scared to click it.

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>>261295209
I fucking love skeletons

>>261295369
Don't hide porn behind spoilers, anon.

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>>261295568
mfw clicking it

>>261295389
whenever I see a goblin I'll take out my trust old cork mallet and smite them

if they're half dead I'll just lay on hands and tell them I'm proud of their non evil ways, if they explode I'm happy to have killed yet another evil goblin

>>261295369
That will be adequate.

Whats a good game to be a spoopy necromancer?

>>261295938
none

Dominions 4 has fun necromancers though

>>261295806
Paladins are really lawful evil, when you think about it. They use their code of laws to go around and murder entire species deigned "evil" just because it said so in a book or some dude told them.

>>261295369
>Robin Williams Celebrity Nudes Leaked On 4chan!

>>261296071
That "some dude" is a god though.

>>261295369
welp, now I got a boner

>>261296071
nah we trust our own instinct, that's why we have detect evil

if somethings pings we can smite, we're playing for team good here

only issue with goblins is that they sometimes don't ping hard enough on the detect evil so you gotta preemptively smite them to be absolutely sure

>>261294238
Archliches don't really raise dead, only requirement is to be a level 21 arcane class.

>>261293241
>force mindless husks of the ones you loved back because of your own selfishness
That's just an insane person.

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Paladins are assholes.

>>261296071
Paladins are tools, henchmen, nothing more

>>261296270
That's what they want you to believe.

>>261296356
we're good, not nice

>>261296356
I remember there being a part later on the yuan ti caves where a little girl said she couldn't wait to become a skeleton, you got a screenshot of that?

>>261296034
I tried playing Dominions 3 and went the Necromancer route. Apparently, you can't do that very well if you don't know the mechanics yet.

>>261296270
There are multiple of them, and they all have different laws. It's ridiculous. Paladins are just legally-sanctioned murderhobos. It's time skeletons stood up to their bullshit and laid down the smackdown on the establishment.

>>261295568
>not using image hover

>>261296356
What game?

>>261295369

Jesus christ, that lady is bare-bones naked!

>>261296580
When in doubt, Burden of Time.

>>261289037
>>261289771
Well, it's unnatural so it's portrayed as "bad". It also usually revives just the body (or revives one with some "broken" aspect as he's been ot the other side) so it, too, seems vile and egocentric and scary.
Be a Cleric, Clerics (especially some kind of Battle Clerics) are underrated.

It's in da dnd rurus

>>261296720
>IDMain

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>>261296580

>>261292337
Wasn't this a song?

>>261296756
>Clerics are underrated

Clerics are overpowered as fuck, they are not underrated at all.

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>>261295330
fuck this gay, gay earth

>>261296296
>detect evil
And who taught you that spell, huh? Your god? Who knows what it really is, perhaps just "detect non-faithful to my chosen god" or "detect tribal".

You're just being a naive instrument of mass murder, you psychopath.

>>261296909
TELLS ME NOTHING

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>>261296528
Was about to post that first actually.

>>261292165

I agree, I would love an rpg type game in which you start off as a lowly gravedigger/robber using corpses to practice low tier necromancy until you eventually build up to full lichdom in a giant castle.

>>261296396
Exactly, lawful evil. They go around murdering people "because it's the law". They are LITERALLY nazis.
>b-b-but I was just following orders...! ;_;

>>261296071
everyone complains about the paladins until they're stuck at the bottom of a drow torture dungeon with their limbs hacked off, lying in a puddle of their own excrement and kept alive, in constant agony, with healing magic.

then it's always "wah, where are the paladins, why isn't anyone killing all these drow".

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druid here, don't care if its good or evil, its dead and it aint decomposing so we gotta fix that

you're denying some helpless fungus his meal and by god we'll rectify that situation

>>261297059
Fun fact: all gods have the same Detect Evil spells. Evil gods even have Detect Good.

>>261297036
there's still nwn2nexus anon, although it's a bit dead

>>261296580
>>261296960
Still trying to pirate that game

>>261297036
there's this
http://neverwintervault.org/

it doesn't contain all mods and its a royal pain in the arse to look through but at least it exists

>>261296960
I want to play this endlessly. Like Crusader Kings + that never ending game tweak you can do. Is that possible?

I just want to be an archlich and be a necromancer piece of shit without that pesky vying for the god throne or whatever.

>>261297298
Fuck off treehugger

>>261297295
...unless you're on the privileged list of the so-called "non-evil" races, paladins won't lift a finger for you. In fact, they're likely to attack you on sight, even if you were indeed enslaved and tortured by drow.

>>261297570
hah good joke, everyone laughs about it until we make the tree hug them

then they usually say something along the lines of "OH GOD MY RIBS"

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>>261297451
>he missed the sale yesterday

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>>261297080
>You're going to turn into a skeleton one day

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>>261297570

So nobody knows what mod the OP is using?

>>261297378
nexus has only like 10% of all mods

>>261297068
icewind dale perhaps?

>>261297842
Was this the first time dominions has gone on sale?

>>261297792
Yeah, we'll see if you're still making fun of me when I have my skeletons burn down your fucking forest

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>>261297334
Yes, good goy-I mean paladin, exactly like your masters taught you
This entire species is BORN evil, it's only NATURAL that we should murder them all and steal all their valuables!

>>261297994
No but it was the biggest sale it has had so far.

>>261298070
This is why people hate you, you know.

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What's a paladin?

>want to play necromancer
>expect it to be fun as fuck
>summoning system in game is just a pain in the ass
Was fucking fun in Diablo 2 though

>>261297726
It's not hard to be on that list, you know. Just don't have an overwhelming desire to rape and murder people woven into your entire race's being, and especially don't try to drag innocent people into this.

Evil races always have a reason for being evil.

>>261298070
I'll say thank you for starting a rejuvenating fire, the forest was getting a bit crowded and the ashes will cause a whole cycle of renewal

however lets see how you like it when my magic immune bacteria start turning your skeletons into fertilizer

>>261298237
YEAH, well you had it coming
>muh neutrality
You're worse than both Sweden and Switzerland combined

>>261298078
It's not like they're presenting any arguments otherwise, considering how they flayed, raped, and ate the last three diplomats we sent to them.

>>261293241
>Calaxto's house of curiosities

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This vile scourge must be purified.

>>261298240
Someone who becomes strong so that they can defend the people they love and stand for the cause they believe in.

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>>261298240
A defender of the One True Faith.

ago of conan had somewhat fun necromancers

having a whole team of skeletons running behind you was fun

>>261298354
You can't choose what race you're born anon. I thought they taught you this in kindergarten, but I suppose paladins are raised with different values in mind...

But nevermind, just keep on murdering and pillaging, and claim it's "all for the greater good".

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>>261298240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfHnzYEHAow

I need a fun F2P mmo with a good summoner class and lots of skellibogs. Give it to me, /v/.

Imagine treading through a tower filled with undead and other monsters. An ambush has left you nearly dead. A powerful zombie veers around a corner and immediately notices you. Right as it is about to finish you off, it is blasted by a spectacular array of colors and is torn apart while being sucked into some kind of rift.

Then a handful of skeletons descend around you in a ray of sunlight, you notice that your wounds have disappeared. A voice from behind you says "It is time to go now". You turn around and get the briefest glimpse of a lich encircled by sunlight, before you find yourself laying outside on the path you came by, unsure whether or not you are still alive.

>>261298724
if you have a choice you could have chosen not to be evil, if you don't then the only merciful thing is to remove you from this world with as little pain as possible

either way it doesn't matter

>>261298446
>not playing Skyrim as a skeleton and raising more skeleton buddies as you go along
I wonder how many the engine would support before crashing

>>261298562
Oh boy, the fun police has arrived

>>261298724
Well, if their race biologically requires them to be wearing a human's baby as a cloak in order to reproduce, they're still evil as all hell to everyone with half a brain. "It's muh culture" can only work so long as you aren't a blight upon this earth.

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>>261296756
>Underrated
>Sanctuary+Harm
Yeah, nah.

>>261294546
I know this feel....

>>261299064
one of the reasons I feel safe smiting every mindflayer I see

>>261298913
>if you have a choice
You don't.
>the only merciful thing is to remove you from this world
That's EXACTLY what the nazis said about the jews you know. :^)

>>261298724
You can if you're actually one of those mythical "Players". The true godkings of the universe, second only to the Dungeon Master as written in the Good Book by the Prophet Gygax himself.

>>261299094
harm and heal were stupidly broken in NWN1 thank goodness they fixed that in NWN2

>>261299167
Why are you feeling safe when you're fighting mind flayers? That's the easiest way for them to daze you long enough to either turn you into an incredibly tasteless bowl or into their child's favorite toy.

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>not being a robot skeleton

>>261299064
Very few races are like that, and definitely not skeletons. In case your neanderthal brain didn't pick this up when you were 12 years old, not every individual within a race are the same. Just like you're a retard, and I'm not, even though we're both human, there can be non-evil goblins, kobolds and skeletons for example. Fucking gestapo-paladins...

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>>261293734
>>261294542

>tfw Goblin Druids

>>261298240
Some gay ass nigga with shiny armor who believes in a false god.

>>261299193
well if the jews were physically incapable to stop eating babies nobody would have minded removing them

>>261299243
"Players" are the most privileged people in the world though. A random goblin doesn't have that luxury.

>>261299346
Oh, how it's 100 hitpoints of healing/damage instead of full heal/your enemy have d4 hitpoints left?

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>no game where you nurture the undead back to life and, because every afterlife theory is a lie, they're eternally grateful and serve you

>>261299416
because I put a thick layer of grease on my armor

also delicious paladin will saves

>>261299632
Okay man, let's just hope the government doesn't decide that you should be shipped off to the concentration camps next, aye? :^) I mean, would be a shame if we found out that you were just "inherently evil" all of a sudden.

>>261299707
yeh, reducing something to 4 health at best with no save was stupid

Kinda off topic, but what some good roguelikes (or roguelites) that you'd recommend?

>>261298931
There's a mod that allows you to have up to 120 followers spread into several squads. I don't see why all of those could not be skeletons.

>>261299507
>definitely not skeletons
>brainless tools that go berserk if not under complete control of the horrible man who made them

>not every individual within a race are the same
Listen, son. I know you haven't heard of "cultures" or "genetic dispositions", but you'll have to learn it someday. When you're born into a world that ceaselessly drills an action into you, whether because of tradition or biological need, you begin to not care about it.

Sure, those goblins may feel fine castrating their captives to emasculate them, and forcing prisoners to eat one another for sport. However, that shit doesn't fly with the majority of civilized people. If they react to an attempt at cultural change violently, it is the paladin's job to crush them and allow those who repent to change.

>>261300006
dungeon crawl: stone soup

>make a game based on a turn-based combat system
>make it real-time with pause, include no turn-based options

eat a dick, obsidian

>>261297298
Not as good at slaying undead as brawlers.

>>261299979
If I suddenly found myself unable to stop raping people with a razor bladed condom I would hope the government would remove me from this earth

>>261300006

Well Stonesoup is supposed to be the ultimate rogue-like.
So that I guess.

>>261300006
I'd go for Cataclysm. It's hard, but it's fun when you get something going.

Fuck Mi-Go, though. Fuck them right up their squamous anuses.

>>261300006
Nethack and various mods are still best roguelikes

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>>261300162
>he's not going to play as a bardnecromancer

>>261300132
>hurr every tribe is the same!
Your bigotry is showing, friend. Leave those poor goblins alone.

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This is all bones jones

i couldn't really make the face look like a skellington but the dark mask makes up for it

going to use all sorts of bone weapons and shit

gonna invade in the undead crypt and spook the shit outta some fleshies

>>261300162
if they didn't do this the game would take 5 hours to complete a single bit of combat and its still technically turn based

>>261295369
>skeleton traps
Well that's certainly something

>>261290252
WHERE THE FUCK DOES THE MILK GO
>inb4 bones

>>261292929
Do you think medschools just take whatever body they find for teaching purposes?

>>261300195
No man, they'd just remove you for being similar to someone else doing something like that. I mean, if one green-eyed person did something bad once, I bet all green-eyed people would do the same. FLAWLESS LOGIC!

>>261300006
Dungeons of Dredmor is pretty good.

Since the cocksucking OP wont spoonfeed I think this might be it

Seems like some kind of gay multiplayer RP thing though
http://www.nwn2planescape.com/

I've never saw a necromancer reviving shit to just to hug and help others.

>>261300529
what? Baldur's Gate 2 worked just fine with autopause

>>261300618
if only 1 green eyed person out of 1 million actually could prevent himself from poisoning water supplies I'd endorse keeping all of them away from the local well

>>261300384
Thus far, I haven't seen any tribes that actually WANT to keep themselves from castrating prisoners and forcing them to kill their loved ones.

I've had much better chances with FLUMPHS, for Pelor's sake. Hell, a group of them even helped me obliterate the Bone-Gnasher goblin tribe!

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>>261300724
That's just the paladin propaganda machine at work

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>>261300530
Dragon Commander had a delicious trap skeleton bartender.

>>261300713
I found this
http://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn2/hakpak/original-hakpak/subraces-pak-beta

>>261300772
Flumphs are lawful good after all, they make up for their lacking body structure with a healthy disposition

>Not being a sick as skeleton necromancer
>Not raising an army of skeletons that you take apart bone by bone to build a giant bone mecha
>not climbing in the ribcage of the giant skeleton and using puppetry magics to pilot it
>Not burning people releasing their skeleton from the flesh to add to the exo-skeleton making it bigger with every kill

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>>261300618
yeah, those gondorians were such bigots. they should really have invited the orcs into minas tirith instead of making racist assumptions. it could have been an enlightening experience for everyone.

>>261300838
Yeah, right. "Fuck the theocracy."

I want Vital "Justice" Warriors to leave.

>>261300843
the game looked so fucking bad tho

>ITT: Buttmad necros
Is just like a pedophile trying to justify themselves, get out here you dirty fag.

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>>261300992
>it could have been an enlightening experience for everyone.

>>261298440
>anything
>magic immune

Return to your hut made out of deer shit and stay there, please.

>>261300162
Bioware did it first, they were just following the trend, otherwise you get shit-eaters like the fags who hate Numenera because it's turn-based rather than RTWP like Torment was. As if Torment's gameplay was something to write about.

>>261300768
No, you'd endorse violently caving their skulls in with a warhammer and steal all their belongings in the name of the church. THAT'S how you paladins are like.

And by the way, where are you getting these statistics? Have you ever asked a goblin? Have you considered the fact that going on a racially motivated genocide might make them sorta hostile to you, y'know, in self-defense?

>>261300772
>I haven't seen any tribes
Because you've attacked them on sight. Don't lie.

>>261297957
That's my guess, but I'm not 100%

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>>261298931
>Trapping the souls of people in corpses that might not even be their own

Deplorable.

>>261301003
not really

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>People lost their v-card to a skeleton

>>261301221
at least its still standing, an unfortunate earthquake happened under your tower, chasm opened and it fell right in

such a shame

>>261301350
I'd stop attacking them on sight if they'd stop attacking me on sight.

>>261300838
Nigga, show me one situation where you would be reviving shit for a good purpose.

>>261300992
The LOTR universe is just stupid, don't bring it into this. It doesn't even have paladins.

>>261301412
no I mean the gameplay looked bad

>>261292929
I guess it could be seen the same way as organ/body donation. Nobody likes to think of their recently lost loved ones being cut up but if they know it's what they would have wanted, they'd probably accept.

It's not like they're going to have the course walking around rotting in rags like a regular zombie. They could cover them up with a mask and the like.

>>261301350
goblins started the genocide and I've never killed a single good goblin in my life

course I've also never met one but as soon as a I find one of them I'll give him enough gold to open a small business

we've also tried diplomacy but they roasted our last diplomat over his peace treaties

>>261301553
how bout revivin ur mom so i can fuk her asshole

>>261301553
Every situation where you could possibly want to revive someone for a good reason is Cleric territory. Necromancers are edgy kids who try to hide behind good morality, when they could just be Clerics, and do the same shit even better

>>261301410
Deal w/ it nerd :^)

>>261301473
You first.

>>261301553
see>>261291006
#rekt

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Imagine a nation founded on the principles of Necromancy. Children would learn from their parents their own families way of raising the dead or manipulating forces of death and life.
Great minds would be liches, who have chosen their frail forms to better teach the generation to come, or needed more time to finish their research. When someone died, they'd be 'drafted' into the nation's armed forces to protect and serve.

Could be neat.

>Not becoming a Shaman
Why bother living?

>>261301569

>It doesn't even have paladins

10/10 you almost got me

>>261301820
>Deal w/ it nerd :^)
I deal with it just fine, by smiting necromancers

>>261301714
>BUT THEY STARTED IT!!! ;_;
My god, you're like a little child. Palaplebs getting BTFO

>>261301820
Gladly. Too bad they've always tried to get the first shot off.

>>261301413
>tfw technically a warlock

>>261289037
what game is this

i wanna be a fucking skeleton with a big bone dick

>>261301578
oh yeah

only good thing is the character interaction, which is a big part though

>>261300886
OP sucks cock, I got skellys

http://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn2/other/soul-vengeance-subraces

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Are lich male or female?

>>261302004
>technically
You using a SJW definition of rape?

Necromancers were considered neutral good in D2.

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>>261301820
Dealing with it, one head at a time.

>>261301995
actually its the Goblins who are getting BTFO, that's why they're complain about paladins, because we're effective at removing them

85% of the world already in the hands of good races, Team Good: we're winning hard

>>261301873
>being a savage tribe nigga

>>261302012

>tfw skeletons are so beta they don't even have dicks

>>261301413
DRUID MASTER RACE

>>261296296
Is that what you told yourself when you party stormed in on Gogs Birthday party? It took me 3 days to find the perfect gift for him, A perfect thigh bone full of tasty marrow, you thrust it down his throat and killed him with it. At least the little Goblin children had a quick death from your warhammer, but the pregnant goblin mommys. That was unforgivable, I hope that alchemist was happy with those placentas, monster.

>>261301839
Yeah, except you'd be accosted on all sides by fucking pala-fags.

>>261301930
That's fine, I'll just become a lich and wait till you die of old age :^)

>>261302108
Depends on what they were before becoming undead and what they are now after casting a simple transmutation spell.

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in everquest lore, the undead were created when the prime healer, the peacock goddess anathi'sul healed the fuck out of the dead

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>>261302108
Male. Females can't into reading.

>>261302108
Depends on what they were before they died, as male and female skeletal structures differ from each other.

>>261301413
>implying witch isn't the wizards counterpart

This always bothers me.

>>261301750
>implying you're not gay

>>261301787
That's what I mean, necromancy is inherently evil.

>>261302183
If Team Good is so great, then how come they don't have any skeletons, hmm?

CHECKMATE PALADINS

>>261302029
Worth the time just for that? Thinking of just putting RTS part on easy or someshit but dunno. As said not played it but gameplay vids implied it's the worst RTS to grace this Earth since.. I don't evne know

>>261302161
always be sure to burn the body, you never know what types of unholy magic they used

>>261302467
Not inherently, just exclusively used by evil people, and incredibly ill-suited to using it for good.

>>261300382
What's wrong with his teeth

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>>261292660
>>261291920

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>>261301839
>No one is afraid to die
>everyone is happier

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>>261302332
gore goes on /b/ you fuck

>>261302418
Unraped women don't exist. Every woman is a rape victim thus they are all warlock equivalents.

>>261302262
ah you mean Gogard the conqueror, raper of thousands

and were you the goblin who killed the good king's favorite son just for his thigh bone? Because I'm coming for you little bastard

Any good games I can play as a skeletonne?

>>261302519
You can skip the rts portions altogether and only make war in tabletop turn based strategy mode. That's how I played it.

>>261289037
Not always.
Guild Wars 1's Necromancers are just as likely to use their abilities to help grant peace to the recently deceased and their families as they are to raise an army of flesh golems when on the warpath. Their undead are mindless and those with any actual intelligence are only evil because they're forced that way by their masters.

Even then, it's a respected field as everyone understands how the afterlife operates. Just don't be the sort to trap a person's soul or desecrate random graveyards.

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Why are lich always skeletons themselves and necromancers are big tit women?

>>261302619
It's a sharkperson.

>>261302693
;_;

>>261295267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir_2lTjXxiY

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>>261290393
>GW2
>It's bad when a dragon dose it but okay for you

>>261302496
Bone Golems: 100% bone, 0% evil

ask your local alchemist

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>>261301839
>necropimp magic will never be a thing because people are too scared of phantom/zombie/skeletal hookers and gigolos
When will they learn?

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>>261302283
>That's fine, I'll just become a lich and wait till you die of old age :^)

well, in D&D, the souls of paladins would just go to mount celestia, a paradise of law and good, where through good deeds you can ascend and becoming a powerful, immortal angel.

>>261302145
Yeah
Was manipulated into it, but I did want it
So i guess in a sense i was raped, but I know for a fact that I wasn't.

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I like necromancy is Dragon's Crown. Look at that happy skeleton. You can really tell he didn't mind being raised. Everybody wins.

>>261302916
Gotta give them skeleton bros some calcium.

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>>261303014
>bringing up the GW2 lore rape

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>>261301413
>Not being a Rogue
>Not NTR stupid Warriors
>Not fucking the lonely maidens of Paladins meanwhile the retards try to purge the world from skeletons

>>261303046
Until a random pesky Lich kills you and casts Trap the Soul.

What do you want in your necromancer game, anon?

I'm listening.
No, it's not getting in.

>>261303084
You were 100% not raped you queer.

>>261303046
and then return to the material plane when someone casts a planar ally spell to smite some undead bastards

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>>261303018
Pfft, take your shoddy chinese knock-offs and stuff them up your ass. I'm talking REAL skeletons bud

>>261303189
>not fucking the lonely skeletons and purging the world from maidens

>>261302916
Because necromen are willing to lose everything to become a lich.

>>261303149
>Grenth is now the son of some whiny artist faggot
It's not enough for Neo-Anet to ruin GW2, they have to retroactively shit on GW1 as well.

>>261303294
bone golems are stronger AND immune to all undead turning spells

only reason necromancers don't use them is because its harder and we all know evil is lazy

>>261303112
I wouldn't mind to be raised as a skeleton by a titty monster.

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He's ok I guess

>>261300985
Game when?

One thing that kinda annoys me is how most fiction has to keep this kind of taboo. Every time somebody brings somebody he loved back to life something has to go terribly wrong just to show that it's a bad idea.

I mean, it's just circular logic: they make things go wrong and then they say "See? If you do this things go wrong. Don't wish for your loved ones to be alive, kids.". It's patronizing, as if every person is a retard that has to be constantly told that in the real world you have to accept death as something final. Thank you writers, we fucking get it. How about an hypothetical scenario that doesn't assume that everything should stay the way it is just so that retards don't get confused?

>>261303046
If it was that easy, everyone would do it. Fact is, this "mount celestia" is just a fiction used to manipulate the gullible into doing their master's bidding. Enjoy your propaganda.

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>>261303018
>bone golems
>not 100% evil
This thing is an abomination to skeletal kind.

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>>261289037
>Necromancers control skeletons and make them do whatever they want
>You control the skeleton that's inside of your body to do what you want
>You've been a necromancer your entire life

>>261303084
You WISH you could read runes, poser. Meanwhile we gonna be rollin' with the wizards, yo.

>>261295267
a little late, but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i59hCniQ-Hs

>>261291930
I don't think so. She was a witch bitch, but she was pregnant. To kill her would help cleanse the world of evil, but to kill her would kill the innocent in her womb, one who has done nothing wrong. Shit seems pretty fucked up if you ask me, and I'm all for it.

Are there any games that I can play as a nice skeleton?

>>261303671
not made with evil magic so still better

>>261302879
Oh sweet, gonna try it then

>>261291726
Noob question.
How do you unlock undead birth options in the first place?

>>261289037
Spoiler that shit man

>>261303695
This is about as accurate as saying that you've been a puppeteer of clothes since you were 3.

>>261303868
MediEvil

>>261302916
being a lich grants you immortality, but the flesh still ages and rots away, leaving spooky skeleman

>>261303252
If manipulation doesn't into sex doesn't count as rape, then I guess you're right
I really do not feel like i was raped, the only violation that occurred is me being embarrassed about having sex with a 4/10 there's no point arguing whether i was or was not
>>261303771
Fuck you faggot, I'm going to be a barbarian