Hey everyone, I'm sure everyone on the fucking planet knows about the smash bros leak, and I know someone who has access to the game and sent me this. I know it sounds vague as hell, but with all the shit going down, I don't want anyone losing their job over this. Also, sorry for the quality, I'm just posting what was sent to me. If I get anything else(or anything of better quality) I'll be sure to post it here. Believe this or don't, I just wanted to get this out there.
Is that Impa? There was a leak yesterday showing max KOs and had that Wolf and an Impa head too.
Nothing on Ridley, Dixie or Chorus Men though.
>no Mach Rider
Naw, Brawl Wolf's mohawk is thinner.
The Wolf from Brawl's roster is facing to the side.
I agree about Dixie and Mewtwo though. Dixie especially looks jacked up something fierce.
Hey guys my dad is soccer guy and i can play the game early look at
its the final roster.
Okay so it's blurry as fuck but where's the tilt?
>Ice climbers removed because "Double characters would be too complicated in smash run" or some shit
>Choir boys come in as a triple character
I mean I'm really happy that they might get in if the leak is real but I'm still not over ice climbers getting the boot
Ah here we go.
Would be nice if we could get a better look at the Impa render on this CSS.
Looks good, except for the Dr. Mario and Jigglypuff portraits looking exactly like the ones from the recreation.
i had a dream last night where i watched a smash trailer revealing zero from the zero escape series
that means it has to be real, right?
right? why me
Guys I just got the latest leak
HAHAHAHA KRYSTALFAGS BTFO
But really, I'm glad that piece of shit didn't get in. I wonder how Krystalfags are handling this anal devastation.
On the plus side, FUCK YES Jigglypuff is back! I'm glad Sakurai kept him/her/it in. But was there any real doubt it would be removed? Hopefully it will encompass some new Fairy type moves.
Every time I see one of these photo leaks, I can't help but imagine the one who took it get all surprised about finally seeing the roster and then goes "I HAVE TO SHOW THIS TO EVERYONE" while casually stuffing a potato in the camera's lens and pointing a flashlight into the screen and proceed to take the photo.
If all the extra, questionable information pertaining to the leak ends up being true, this is by far the worst smash roster, and perhaps even the worst roster ever made for a fighting game.
Well lets see here.
Decent render. Not half bad. Could be real.
Also rather decent. I was expecting something along the lines of super ugly and fake as hell. They have the power to make those kinds of faces.
Yeah, looking at the google images now. LOTS of these have him with his head close to that position. No wait, I found a couple that look EXACTLY like the roster pic. Yeah, no buying it sorry. Sucks too, cause I was a Wolf main.
Decent. Some notable aspects I have found. Every image I have found of her head in that direction has her with the yellow side bangs highly visable. I am looking very VERY closely at the roster pic, and I am not seeing the yellow bangs, which means this model is some kind of hybrid of the Tropical Freeze model, and the DKC2 model. Which makes it pretty believable for me.
Now for what I find is arguably close to the WORST ones of these five, with obvious fake Wolf doing better.
Before I begin, I just want to say I would be 100% fine if all of this turned out true. I really really would, so no holding anything against me ok? Ok.
Its terrible. For one, people need to keep in mind that on google, Ridley renders are so plentiful because so many people make them hoping for him to get into smash. Him having his mouth gaping open like that just doesn't look like the fierce determined Ridley you would expect. Also, there is usually something that sets the real renders completely apart form the others. Its usually the render can't even be found with the head in a similar position, or the render is previous iterations combined or something. It just isn't that good of a Ridley to me.
Let me repeat, I would be 100% fine if all of this was true, but I just don't believe the Wolf and Ridley renders.
not blurry or tilted enough
heres the real roster
Isn't this the Wolf render?
I got it off of Google
>Starlow is a copy and paste of her DT artwork when she has a 3D model in the same fucking game
nigga this isn't paper mario
Dixie Kong will probably be just a clone.
Lucina we know is a clone.
Dark Pit will probably be a clone.
Dr. Mario is guaranteed to be a clone.
Duck Hunt Dog was never asked for and they could have put someone better.
Sakurai played favorites with his own series.
Rosalina is just the thing Nintendo puts into nearly everything.
Bowser Jr is a terrible Mario character.
Shulk is just another anime swordsman.
Wii Fit Trainer was a stupid addition.
Same for Ridley.
>3 2D Chorus Kids/men
>Other M Ridley (when the original Melee intro would be the one playable if it happens)
Otherwise, not that bad a fake. Though isn't Impa supposed to be in that 'leak'?
>"Epic :^)," the thing that used to be said to Gematsufags and Ridleyfag theory pictures
>now said to people who show how easy it is to make fake roster images
/v/ has truly fallen.
you should have copied this wolf and idna leak from recently.
>No because you can scroll the pages to see the other fighters, otherwise the roster of fighters would be incredibly small, anon.
In other words there's a fighter not visible that he has 1 ko on
Nah, cause Luma doesn't have it's own AI, it's literally just an extension of Rosalina. Ice Climbers needs Nana to have a separate AI to work, so w/four Ice Climbers the 3DS has to control eight separate programs at once. Compare to Rosalina, which is four programs for eight models.
I don't know if I should feel sadness or pity for people who spend time to make a believable fake leak but don't have the brain ressources to understand that ridley instantly invalidates their hard work. It'd be like playing poker with a 12 years old, you're glad you win every game but at the same time you miss out on the thrill of the game
They could have just drastically altered them. Nana could just copy all of the player's inputs and only require an AI to get back to to Popo, just like Pikmin, They made changes to Olimar, Pit, and Bowser, so I can't imagine why they wouldn't make changes in order to get them to work rather than just cutting them.
Look at Diddy's mouth.
Now look at Dixie's mouth.
For Dixie, it doesn't even look like a mouth.
It looks like someone smeared literal shit over her portrait in a way that it looks like her mouth is open. Dixie is such a obvious shop that it literally destroy's the whole picture's possible credibility it could have had going.
Basically, Dixie kills the picture, Wolf turns it into a zombie, and that horrible looking Ridley kills the zombie.
>ROB in all obvious fakes and supposed legit leaks
I guess I just thought that it still needed the top screen to still even turn on and function. But... that's neat, I suppose.
I guess that technically means you could still play regular DS games, but only with no top screen.
>that ridley and dixie render
"i'm from nintendo" leakerfags are getting desperated
Zelda's been shit since Melee and her new attack is garbage. She at least deserves to have a few viable tools.
And how often are you even going to hit with that recovery move anyway?
>Impa will probably be a Shiek clone
>Dixie will probably be a Diddy clone
>Lucina IS a Marth clone
>Dr. Mario is guaranteed to be a Mario clone
>Dark Pit will probably be a Pit clone
>Fuck even Ridley might be a Charizard clone knowing Sakurai
So much for lowering the amount of clones.
All hype for me is gone.
I see the magnetic edge from Brawl is back at full force.
Bowser wasn't even fucking close to that ledge.
>Why is Mewone not playable?
Because Mewone isn't Nintendo's Lightning.
>open in photoshop
>select Filters > Look Like Shit
>Click "Add pointless glare"
>Click "Add tons of grain"
>Click "Darken everything"
>Select Save as...
>Save under "Legit Sm4sh leak"
>Post to /v/
>tourneyfags complain about living for too long at high percentages
>Darkrai fixes this by having characters get KO'd at lower percentages, making the game faster
>tourneyfags still bitch and moan
Shit like this is why people hate Brawl, it makes everything too easy for babby. If shit like that comes back in 4 I might lose some hope, that's just disgusting...Theres no "ITS IN DEVELOPMENT T_T" excuse at this point either because its getting near release.
Actually, the icons in this supposed leak look like the recreated icons, as seen in >>260390580
They should look more like the icons in the actual leak, shouldn't they?
geez, sorry, i didn't know you want too hear anything Ridley. You should of let me know beforehand.
>using the photo that was photoshop someone made of the roster to prove a point that a roster was fake as evidence that another roster is fake
>>Ice climbers removed because "Double characters would be too complicated in smash run" or some shit
>Multi-man is still in the game, with possible coop so that would mean we could still have two rosalinas or two Pikmin&Olimar or two Chorus Kids and still have 5-6 Multi-men on screen
>Fuck even Ridley might be a Charizard clone knowing Sakurai
Charizard is a fucking manlet. I doubt Ridley wouldn't be as big as, say, Giant Pikachu or something, and I also doubt he'd have something even close to Rock Smash. "Knowing Sakurai" is just using Ganondorf, who is the only outlier for clones.
>Vivian got in along with /v/
>neo-/v/ got in as a stage boss
I noticed something. Look at how the clones are at the end of their respective franchise.
If anything this helps solidify that this might have an ounce of truth, since nintendo always pays close attention to minor details.
Ice climbers have always been literally 2 different characters at the same time. Both Popo and Nana had different damage%, and could both hold items. And if you get them separated Nana becomes a CPU and goes around and hits shit
Luma just copys what rosalina does, no matter where it is
Pikmin are literally just items that Olimar uses
Not him but I wanted Andy, Krool, another f-zero rep, isaac, chibi robo, and a pikmin clone character
The only one with even the slightest possibility was andy and maybe a pikmin clone, but the roster still pisses me off to no end due to lucina, dark pit, toon link, etc
Fraid I can't let you do that Starfox....
Luma is a lot less complicated than Nana. Nana actually has an AI. Sure, it'd be fine if there were only one pair of Ice Climbers on the screen, but 4 pairs on Spirit Tracks with Pokeballs would probably kill the framerate.
Basically, an aspect of the game was held back due to the fact that the 3DS can't do something the GCN can do. The 3DS version was an awful idea. The Wii U version probably won't have the Climbers either because MUH VERSION PARITY (even though the Wii U version is more expensive, comes out later and doesn't even have crossplay with the 3DS version)
Quit strawmanning, faggot. You just hate that your pick didn't get in, and if you can't enjoy the roster, you're gonna make damn sure no one else can with your shit opinion. Grow up.
Fake as shit. Here's the Ridley render.
Except Sakurai has said before that clones are just there because they're easy fast additions they can bring up at time crunch.
It's not "if we didn't have clones we'd have 5 new characters", it's 5 clones or nothing.
>whining about clones because it's not the clone you want
For fuck's sake, man. I do think you will get your Pikmin clone character, Alph, as an alternate set of outfits for Olimar, though.
>Nana's AI causes FPS drop
Also there are few flaws in what you have said.
Once you use the luma shot the luma moves around the stage freely.
Also Pikmin have similar AI to Nana as they still need to regroup with Olimar when they get split up. Pikmin can also pick up items.
The only real problem with the Ice Climbers being in the game is because of her model. Having that many things running at 60 FPS could cause things to stutter.
>Luma is a lot less complicated than Nana. Nana actually has an AI.
>Nana's AI is causing FPS drop
There is little difference between 5 clones and no new characters because clones play almost exactly like their originals.
Of course, in the new Smash fanbase clones are fine and totally add value to rosters.
The point is that interesting clones like black shadow or impa are nowhere to be found, while literal reskin #1 and literal reskin #2 from 3 Game Series and Babby's First FE are shitting up the roster
I didn't say a fucking thing about the clones. Pretty much half of your post was whining about the original characters. If we actually knew anything about them other than supposed 30 second video clips, you'd be a bit more validated. But no, you just whine about Shulk being a generic anime character, or no one asked for Duck Hunt. Yeah, no one asked for Mr. G&W and he's one of the most wanted veterans.
Just the same we have no idea about the supposed clones except for the fact we know Lucina, Doc, and possibly Dixie will be clones with minor moveset changes. Dark Pit could be completely different.
You don't wanna have fun discussing possible movesets for characters and would rather bitch and moan about them. You're a pessimist. Deal with it.
>Once you use the luma shot the luma moves around the stage freely.
It still doesnt have its own damage meter, and I don't think it has actual CPU AI because it won't attack anyone unless you tell it do
>Also Pikmin have similar AI to Nana as they still need to regroup with Olimar when they get split up. Pikmin can also pick up items.
But the pikmin don't have CPU AI. They just do the things that Olimar causes them to do. If they get away from Olimar they chase back to him and hit any walls in the way. Also they also dont have a damage meter, and they cant USE the items, only pick them up and give them to Olimar
Get away? From what? Who is the judge here? Is Melee going to be arrested because internet people are mad Ganondorf is a Cap clone?
It's a video game. It gives you the option to have Mario or Dr. Mario and you're getting mad that it's not just Mario as if the clone's existence creates a time space paradox that erases all the brand new guys in the game.
>No Uncle Fester
Fake as shiiit! He was even in the trailer you fruit cake!
>It still doesnt have its own damage meter
It does though
>and I don't think it has actual CPU AI because it won't attack anyone unless you tell it do
The luma moving about the stage without falling off doesn't count as AI?
>Of course, in the new Smash fanbase clones are fine and totally add value to rosters
>new Smash fanbase
Clones have always been accepted, especially by the competitive autists and "muh og 12"
Jigglypuff, Falco, Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Snake, Luigi, Toon Link, Wolf, and Lucas are all valuable characters and are on par with or surpass their originals, and if /v/ is anything to go by, the losses of Snake, Wolf, and Lucas show that yes, people do care about clones. Jigglypuff would have disappeared because she stopped being relevant after the fad of kids who did Pokemon shit just to fit in died down, and she stopped appearing altogether. Remember Royfags, by any chance?
My thoughts exactly. Also, is that Bowser Jr. under the cursor?
I still don't buy any leaks including the Chorus Men, but I really wouldn't mind this being the roster. I'm happy enough with everything that's been shown so far and it'd get me Ridley.
If they didn't cut characters between entries and just kept adding newcomers every new smash would have the best roster smash ever had. If that picture becomes a reality it would have most characters from all previous entries plus newcomers.
not a ridleyfag but I sincerely hope he's playable for the sake of my boner so I can see people like you cry and make me harder
ok, so have we proven OP's pic as fake yet or no? I just found this thread and am skimming though it.
>version exclusive characters in a pair of games that are meant to interact with each other
>this is somehow okay
Fucking end yourself. If anything, there should be a downloadable patch for the 3DS version that adds in what, 3 characters, when the Wii U version is released.
>If they didn't cut characters between entries and just kept adding newcomers every new smash would have the best roster smash ever had. If that picture becomes a reality it would have most characters from all previous entries plus newcomers.
If we're all gonna bitch about Dr. Mario and Dark Pit this much, we're gonna bitch more about Roy and Pichu and 9 fucking Pokemon holy shit nigger. If DKfags feel so vindicated already that a lesser series like Star Fox and Fire Emblem and Kid Icarus are given more reps, even if those three are filled with clones, then yeah there's gonna be some uproar. Sometimes cuts are necessary. I'm glad they cut the Pokemon Trainer in favor of just Charizard.
are you this bad at reading comprehension or are you just desperate to bait?
either way, have some candy. maybe it'll make you less stupid.
can we stop calling each other fags and shit and just try to figure out this "leak"? where did these renders come from? it isn't too obvious... can we use our collective limited knowledge to figure some shit out?
>Not wanting a character in because other people want him
>Not wanting a character in because you want to see the anal devestation
You do realize the anal devestation would happen either way?
I love the fact that in this entire thread, no one has been able to identify the Wolf, Chorus Men, Ridley, Dixie and Mewtwo correctly yet.
Just one posted image of a render that matches the photo would disprove it, but nope. We'd all rather just call each other faggots.
She has chances post Brawl, she is literally the most popular Star Fox character after Fox, deal with it normalfag
Could you explain why he never will be? I'd like to hear your obviously deep rooted views and ideals regarding the subject. You appear to be well versed in the issue and far surpass my knowledge of the situation. So please, enlighten me as to why he shall never be playable, if you would?
>Getting rid of Sakurai's ordering of series.
Everything is ordered going left to right, top to bottom based on release order with four sections, multi-character franchises, single character series, clones, third party. Shulk is with the third party characters because if it were the clones the roster would look weird.
THANK YOU! Someone with a brain! Also, nice pic!
holy shit tho guys
what if sakurai used other m ridley as a base model because it was a clone of the original ridley
and had made ridley a charizard clone
clone character as a clone
it's exactly the sort of shit that fucker would pull
>A yeah, the copycat duck of Fox in Smash
Whatever dudes, that's why you haters still remeber her, and always claiming she ruined the series.
She is more popular that you bara wolf, bird, frog, rabbit or your dragqueen Leon
Stay Mad faggots.
I guess you don't know then huh?
Let me BTFO You right now.
She's a trophy. That's all. Possibly a stage hazard in the Star Fox stage, but she's a trophy.
I'll consider it pretty funny if at the end of all this shitflinging, absolutely NO ONE can post a single image that correctly matches the renders in this supposed leak (the Ridley pic someone posted doesn't match up), and the leak turns out to be real.
Honestly, /v/ is possibly the worst place to actually do an analysis on any of these leaks since everyone is a retard who's just like "lol ridley, confirmed fake", "muh ice climbers" etc.
So what you're saying is that the picture is real?
>was mad as hell when I first saw ROB on brawl
>I fucking love him now
Goddam he's such a bro
Nope, You just dont accept the fact that Krsytal is second popular character of Star Fox, and she has more chances to appear post Brawl
>Miyamoto becomes Dinosaur Planet into Star Fox Adventures
>Rare becomes kitty loli into mature vixen
>Namco doesn't make StarFox 2
>Star Fox 2 team screw Comand
Yes, sure, Krystal, she FUCKING MAKE the rest Star Fox games
I already know she isn't in Sm4sh, I just say, she isn't a odd option, I accept Wolf had more chances, but like I said, post Brawl she has more chances (female and original movelist)
Looks like he's covered by the cursor, not Impa.
Look at that glorious gold hair.
What a faggot I am, I mean pre Brawl, I should stop posting here
No, I'm saying it might not be real, just everyone in this thread (and on /v/, really) is too busy calling each other faggots and stroking their own e-peens to actually try and find a render to just say "oh hey guys, OP pic is bullshit, go to bed."
NeoGAF or Reddit or something has probably already proved it fake for all we know. This is how shitty /v/ has actually become.
i hadn't realized there was such a dedicated fanbase that actually believed Krystal would make it in
Krystalfags are worse than Ridleyfags.
When the game comes out and Krystal is deconfirmed as just a trophy or something, they will literally create threads trying to find some hidden hack or something that makes Krystal playable. They will try to search through the data to find any remnants or hints of playable Krystal. They will create and actually try long and ridiculous methods of unlocking Krystal that "no one has found yet".
At least Ridleyfags will just put their spiked tails between their legs and wait for Smash 5 if he's confirmed as just a boss.
Oh fuck that webm actually scared the shit out of me.
>Think your filename is ironic
>Suddenly Krystal rolls in
>He doesn't know about Giga bowser and master hand
This should be enough to authorize his execution.
Every time I see Ridley in these roster pictures I just laugh because I know it's already fake.
Besides Ice Climbers getting cut for fucking Dark Pit/Dr. Mario, I hope it's true too.
that shit is hard as hell to aim, so im fine with it doing massive damage. Especially since it's extremely obvious + if you miss you're free-falling into your opponent's lap to get fucking spanked. It's risky as hell.
King Dedede's hammer rocket in Brawl could KO at around 45% anyway, and people complain about brawl having way too high KO percentages
She was one of the top most requested characters in Sakurais Polls, get fucked.
I really never understood the appeal of StarFox 64
how can a corridor shooter even be a full game? that's like minigame-tier shit, or at least an arcade game. The kind of thing that's fun for 5 minutes every 6 months. How do you make an entire game of just that?
In fact, it IS a minigame in a lot of games. Kingdom Hearts has the gummi ship which is the same thing, and that sucks complete dicks, but it's tolerable for the short amount of time you have to do it. The Wonderful 101 also has segments like that and those get stale before theyre even over, and they only last a few minutes
Actually, I'm now a bit skeptical now that I see that the Dr. Mario in OP's pic looks like the recreated one. They're two completely different angles. How sad. I was really looking forward to this being real.
What a rip off of this glorious roster