[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Click for more| Home]

Amazon buys Twitch.tv for nearly 1 billion dollars

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 122
Thread images: 17

Amazon, not Google, to buy Twitch.tv for 970 million dollars.

Apparently the rumors were false.

Thoughts on this /v/
>>
>>259857549
forgot source:

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/08/25/amazon-not-google-in-talks-to-buy-twitch-reports-suggest?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
>>
rev up those hitbox accounts
>>
Is that a bad thing?
>>
>>259857549
I can only hope my Amazon Prime account gets me some Twitch benefits.

Otherwise I don't give a fuck.
>>
Twitch intentionally spread the google rumor so that when they announced it was amazon the idiots would yell "YAY IT'S NOT GOOGLE!" instead of being mad.
>>
>>259858510
possibly. amazon is just getting started in the stream area so too soon to tell. however it is better than google
>>
Better than Google as far as I'm concerned. Amazon's still a corporation but they seem to be fairly benign.
The whole music thing is still retarded though.
>>
File: 1367630373654.png (58KB, 441x361px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1367630373654.png
58KB, 441x361px
>>259857549
>google offer to buy twitch
>amazon offer to buy twitch
>twitch leaks rumour about google buy up
>twitch users/casters think google is a shit idea
>twitch go with amazon offer

case closed,

nothing to discuss
it's the same people working at twitch
the system isn't changing
fuck off
>>
>>259858750
>however it is better than google

It's the same. They're both giant pseudo-monopolies and quickly turning into Wall-E style megacorporations.
>>
>>259857549
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2014/08/25/amazon-pounces-on-twitch-after-google-balks-due-to-antitrust-concerns/
>>
>>259857549
Is amazon any better than google?
>>
Your talent, your passion, your dedication to gaming, your memes, your brilliance – these have made Twitch what it is today. Every day, we strive to live up to the standard set by you, the community. We want to create the very best place to share your gaming and life online, and that mission continues to guide us.
>>
>>259859071
I'm sure when Google bought Youtube it still had the same people working at it.

Now look at it.
>>
>>259858510
better than google.
>>
>>259857549
How was it a rumor when Twitch videos were silenced?
>>
>>259857549
Am I the only one who is weirded out by, like, 3 companies owning fucking anything?
>>
>>259863747
>>259857549
*everything, not anything.
>>
>>259863747
AND TIM HORTON'S MIGHT BE BOUGHT BY BURGER KING
>>
Who gives a fuck about twitch? They already killed justin where will I watch Southpark and the Simpsons while not having to choose an episode and having niggers to discuss it with
>>
>>259863747

Yes

-The Supreme Court
>>
>>259863747
The people of Homestead agree with you.
>>
File: 1392158623538.png (51KB, 627x620px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1392158623538.png
51KB, 627x620px
>>259857549
For what purpose?
>>
>>259858750
>just getting started
Amazon probably has the best streaming out of all the available options in the US. Actual HD not some shitty stretched out 540
>>
>>259863747
It's happening again. We're going to need a modern day Teddy to fix things.
>>
>>259859071
>fuck off
Why does your dick shrink when people look at it?
>>
File: 1403924967457.png (121KB, 250x418px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1403924967457.png
121KB, 250x418px
...what
>>
>>259859071
>the system isn't changing
Except for the muted VODs and content ID system of course.
>>
File: you fly so good.webm (3MB, 1280x720px)
you fly so good.webm
3MB, 1280x720px
>>259858510
Way too early to tell, but it's better than Google. I am keeping Hitbox TV bookmarked just in case, but if some conglomerate other than Google is buying Twitch there is still hope. I'd prefer it if Twitch stayed independent instead of selling out like a bunch of pussies, but at least it's not Google.
>>
>$970 million
that's just crazy.
>>
>>259864192
is there anything to fill the void of jtv going away?
>>
>>259865269
with a ton of streamers jumping ship it's going to be worth less than 970
>>
>>259859138
google is already evil just from youtube alone
amazon hasn't done anything evil yet, but they likely will
amazon is better right now
>>
>>259858750
Amazon servers are literally the best in the business, unlike youtube servers that only flawlessly buffer ads.
>>
>>259863747
Taxes should be exponentially correlated to your wealth.

This will never happen because rich people have the most power and influence.
>>
File: ISHYGDDT.jpg (88KB, 1600x1600px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ISHYGDDT.jpg
88KB, 1600x1600px
>>259857549
>Caring about Twitch
>>
>>259863747
That's pretty much how every industry is run now.
>>
>>259865775
>amazon hasn't done anything evil yet
What about the working conditions in their warehouses? I don't know if I'd call them "evil" but damnit they're trying.

I agree they're not as bad as Google, but that's not saying much either.
>>
>>259863747
as long as they dont fuck things up or if they do there are alternatives I dont see an issue
>>
>>259866702
>What about the working conditions in their warehouses?
Should have said "hasn't done anything evil to their users"
>>
File: 1402155076186.jpg (6KB, 251x209px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1402155076186.jpg
6KB, 251x209px
>>259857549

cool more benefits Amazon Prime

>>259862246

amazon knows more about video with it prime video
>>
>>259858750
>Amazon begins getting more into movie streaming
>works out deals with companies where you can pay to stream a movie on your twitch account
>people watch movie with you and ad revenue goes to movie company
>video games takes another hit
i am ready
>>
>>259866702
>implying I give a shit about the filthy illegal immigrants working in those warehouses

They get decent pay anyway. As long as I get stable servers and no bullshit I'll be happy.
>>
>>259867068
I don't understand your post. Who would pay to stream a movie?
>>
>>259866859
>Should have said "hasn't done anything evil to their users"
They've been doing some pretty shady shit with book/e-book sales the last few years (price fixing, blacklisting, etc.).
>>
>>259867068
>yfw netflix gets rekked by this service because you can't spam kappa with random idiots while watching movies on netflix.
>>
>>259867559
That is a case of putting user rights above writers', you retard. It's technically bad for writers, but it's not doing anything illegal, just supply and demand in action.

It's like how blockbusters died, book stores are just pointless now.
>>
>>259867921
>but it's not doing anything illegal
Being evil isn't illegal
>>
Why were we told it was Google at first?
>>
>>259868106
It's not evil either, holy shit. The ONLY people butthurt about amazon's book selling policies are
>book stores (who the fuck cares)
>big time writers (small time writers don't care because amazon makes them more successful than regular publishers)

That's it. Not evil to their users in any case.
>>
>>259868190
>google makes an offer
>twitch says "probably, but let us check what the community would think"
>add the policies that google would force on them
>backfires, 20% of the userbase leave for hitbox.tv
>twitch says no to google
>twitch says yes to the next offer
>>
>>259867921
http://online.wsj.com/articles/amazon-halts-some-disney-movie-preorders-1407654416
>>
>>259868523
Wrong. It's:

>google offers a shitton of money for twitch
>twitch gets excited and accepts the deal
>government says google can't buy twitch
>would nearly put a monopoly on streaming services
>"well fine...we'll let amazon give us money instead"
>>
Amazon is pretty based, I'm gonna say this is a good thing.
>>
>>259867921
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothypomerantz/2014/08/12/with-disney-dispute-has-amazon-gone-too-far/
>>
>>259866702
For the shit working conditions they get good pay and benefits at least.
>>
>>259869102
>Monopoly on streaming services
>Amazon already offers streaming services

Google only has Youtube... Amazon has enough shit already.
>>
Is there a company out there that people would have been happy with? The owners of twitch wanted to cash out, this was an inevitability.
>>
>>259869391
live streaming services*
>>
At first I was happy that Amazon was buying Twitch instead of Google. But then I realized that that means it was solely Twitch that did all that pointless censoring a short while back.
>>
>>259869102
>Google offers $1b, a split of stocks and cash
>Amazon offers them $970m, no catch, just a big fat check for $970m
>>
File: 1399679741787.png (248KB, 545x595px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1399679741787.png
248KB, 545x595px
>>259857549
Not a /biz/raelite but it seems to me that these large acquisitions for a single site are just ridiculous. I get buying infrastructure and brand name and all that, but a single service doesn't seem to warrant such a large bid. Seems like it would be better to go with a smaller but more functional competitor and then integrate them with your own infrastructure for a fraction of the cost. Not like you are going to guarantee domination of the market forever even if you buy out the one in the lead.

Then again what do I know, I'm just a retard on /v/.
>>
>>259869102
>government says google can't buy twitch
Those rulings are made after trials and would be public, dude.

>>259869232
>>259869003
>Earlier this year Amazon got into a similar spat with Time Warner . That dispute reportedly involved marketing issues as well as pricing and didn’t drag out for too long.

It's a bluff and it's Disney and Time Warner's fault anyway. I'm glad Amazon is making them their bitch now seriously, I'll stop pretending to be a shill and admit you have a point

>>259869620
Aren't google stocks technically more valuable than cash at this rate?
>>
>>259869620
>google stock rises
>suddenly that $1 billion is 1.4 billion
>>
>>259869735
It's a package deal
kill the competitor
get an userbase and streaming infrastructure for free
>>
>All the idiots blaming Google for muting videos containing copyrighted music in VODS
>Now that the news comes out that it's Amazon not Google buying Twitch people realize it was 100% Twitch that changed their VOD system to mute things.
>>
>>259865916
statist plz

also
>caring about twitch
>>
>>259869339
Actually you get no benefits if you work part time, which was part of the reason Amazon got so much shit. They would just hire a bunch of people and pay them part time so they wouldn't have to give them benefits.
>>
>>259870361
I have no idea what a statist is, I'm just saying it makes no sense to let people get powerful enough to control an entire nation without democracy having a part in it
>>
Who cares, hitbox is where it's at
>>
>>259870539
Statism is any position on economics/politics that advocates having a centralized state of any kind. Ignore him.
>>
Potential plus sides of Amazon buying Twitch?

>Targeted ads with referrals (Click here to buy the same Razer Mouse that your favorite streamer uses!)
>Instead of muting videos, have a popup that asks if the user wants to purchase a digital copy from Amazon
>>
>Imploring you wouldnt sell for 1 billion dollars
>>
>>259870913
Nobody here is blaming twitch

however I blame Oculus for picking facebook, holy shit
>>
>>259870908
Amazon Prime including twitch deals
>>
>>259869236
Ah I suppose that makes sense.
>>
>>259870908
Biggest plus is that Google won't shit all over it like youtube.
>>
>>259871383
twitch prime which requires you to subscribe to watch streams
>>
>>259870908
>Prime users can subscribe to a certain number of channels for free

Someone could kill two birds with one payment if they wanted to.
>>
File: democracy.jpg (72KB, 623x425px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
democracy.jpg
72KB, 623x425px
>>259870539
>it makes no sense to let people get powerful enough to control an entire nation without democracy having a part in it

that kinda contradicts history of human civilization

and again
>democracy
>good
>>
File: file.png (202KB, 514x383px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
file.png
202KB, 514x383px
AMAZON DOT COM
>>
>>259865059
dont forget deleted vods after 10 days either
>>
File: 1404329211620.png (21KB, 200x194px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1404329211620.png
21KB, 200x194px
>>259871879
>You will never live in a technocracy
>>
>>259871879
>that kinda contradicts history of human civilization
you mean the history of all those empires that fell?


the only people against democracy are the ones who erroneously think they'd be in power
>>
>>259857549
>google
Told you niggers.
>>
Amazon saw all those wishlists on Twitch
>>
File: Hoppe.jpg (121KB, 960x582px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Hoppe.jpg
121KB, 960x582px
>>259872769
>the only people against democracy are the ones who erroneously think they'd be in power

Or people that realize that democracy is a colossal failure both in theory and in practice, and that it's little more than decaf communism.
>>
>>259863747
If you don't like it don't use those three companies
>>
>>259873723
>rich man wants system that would favor rich people
>>
>>259873723

You don't actually believe this nonsense, do you?
>>
>>259870485
That's every company out their though. You still have to pay for union if you work in a grocery store, even if you only work part time and still get no benefits.
>>
>>259869102
you're retarded if you think that's how it fucking works.
>>
File: tips fedora.gif (2MB, 312x250px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
tips fedora.gif
2MB, 312x250px
>>259873920

>Le evil rich people all want libertarianism/anarcho-capitalism!
>That's why they nearly all pour massive amounts of funding into propping up the highly statist Democrats and Republicans!
>>
>>259873723
>communism says private property is robbery
>democracy says private property is a right

Jesus christ, I know nothing about anything that isn't vidya, but this guy doesn't know what either communism or democracy is.
>>
>>259874430
Didn't say that at all, I just said the guy in your picture is biased as hell

and they're funding those because democracy is the system we have now
they would fund your system if it existed
>>
>>259874564
>>democracy says private property is a right

Democracy doesn't "say" anything, including if private property is allowed in any capacity.

Hell, it's foundations rest on the idea that property rights don't exist in any meaningful capacity, as the collective has a right to negate them by virtue of getting 51% of people to agree.
>>
>>259874592
>they would fund your system if it existed

Fund what, precisely?
>>
>>259875476
because 51% would agree to give up their belongings? I doubt you'll ever get 2% to ever do that unless, you know, they're communists.

listen, i actually live in a communist country which I'm trying to escape because no sooner than 3 weeks from now, i'll only be allowed to buy exactly what the government wants me to buy, not that there's much to choose from, 1 brand of whatever product, or quite simply no product at all, and use my fingerprint as my ID.

You can think anything about how bad democracy is, but until you come and live in a shithole that this is, you'll never have the whole picture.

I'd be lucky if I go down to the store and find 2% milk right now
>>
>>259876334
>>because 51% would agree to give up their belongings?

no, that's the point, 51% force the other 49% to give up their belongings by using "democracy"

>You can think anything about how bad democracy is, but until you come and live in a shithole that this is, you'll never have the whole picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Just because your communist shithole sucks does not make Democracy inherently good.
>>
File: Bastiat.jpg (127KB, 600x479px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Bastiat.jpg
127KB, 600x479px
>>259876334
>because 51% would agree to give up their belongings?

No, but you can certainly get them to try and steal the other 49%'s belongings.

Although democracy in action is obviously more complex than this (due to the existence of the intermediary of politicians and bureaucrats), the effect is largely the same. People tend to overwhelmingly vote to steal other people's money for their own usage. This is seen with government unions spending huge amounts of money to further increase their massive pension programs, welfare recipients trying to increase welfare, farmers trying to increase ag subsidies, banks trying to get/maintain central banking (i.e. the Federal Reserve), defense contractors trying to get more contracts, old people voting for more social security payments, etc.

This is just looking at the purely financial side of this, there's also the rather massive violations of property rights that occur when everyone is constantly trying to ban all of there competition (so that they get more money) via minimum wage laws and other price controls, regulatory agencies, occupational licensing, etc.
>>
>>259877276
improvement over 1% having complete control over 99%
>>
>>259878540
>improvement over 1% having complete control over 99%

I have no idea what system you're describing.

I'm guessing monarchy, however kings generally had the incentive to maintain their capital value in a country, which in turn meant that the most effective way to maintain this was allowing a significant dose of private property rights within their domain.

Meanwhile, in democracy, you have absolutely no good incentives for a healthy economy as the incentives are to steal as much as possible from everyone else and hope they don't do the same to you.
>>
>>259857549
i hope it gets closed down or made incredibly intrusive
>>
>>259869232
>Amazon wants to sell things for a lower cost
>Publishers disagree saying Amazon just wants to corner the market and get more profit
Based Amazon. For once a company is screwing the people making the products while helping the people buying the products.
>>
>>259866702
I work in their warehouse in AZ.
The heat is fine. People bitch and moan because they're pussies.
>>
Amazon > Google

Amazon won't demand users to sign to Google+ or use your real name. Maybe Amazon will implement feature to immediately order a game you're watching a livestream of.
>>
>>259880381
>One click buy game from twitch
>2 day shipping
I can dig it.
>>
The difference between Google and Amazon is that Google sells your information while Amazon sells you products for a reasonable price.

I think we know who the better one is.
>>
>>259875910
Basic societal needs, I imagine he's aiming at. Unless, like, you're imagining out-and-out anarchy or some kind of crazy libertarian that will inevitably pave the way for the biggest guy with the most guns to march about declaring themselves King of Shit Mountain.

But seriously, WHAT kind of government are you saying would work best, given the US's history and general population?
>>
>>259881254
Probably what it has right now, with more political and bureaucratic transparency. Maybe a more functional social security net.
>>
File: Murray Rothbard.jpg (44KB, 492x225px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Murray Rothbard.jpg
44KB, 492x225px
>>259881254
>But seriously, WHAT kind of government are you saying would work best, given the US's history and general population?

In terms of government, monarchy is the least terrible option.

Although the preferable condition is anarcho-capitalism.
>>
>>259882537
Did he actually say that, because if he did, that is absolutely hilarious.
>>
>>259882984
>Did he actually say that, because if he did, that is absolutely hilarious.

How so?
>>
>>259869852
no, because if you want out of all your google stocks and into cash you will get less than current market price.
>>
>>259872769
Not true, I'd gladly never vote again as long as all the retards could also not vote and we'd be governed by competent adults
>>
>>259883145
What is a nation-state?

The reason that Canada and the United States exist as two separate entities, to use his example, and aren't considered to be in a state of "anarchy" ( I'm not sure what he is meaning by this, so I'll just assume he is referring to the general definition of a state in anarchy) is a variety of reasons.

For one, there is no infrastructure or legal document in place referring to Canada and the United States as a cohesive political entity. Any separation of the two countries doesn't infringe upon the claims of either country, which are both desperately upheld as agreements of the citizens of both sides that they are in sovereign states. Toronto is a city in Canada, in the province of Ontario, because those who initially created the legal documents establishing boundaries decided that would be the most proper way to go about this, and the collective of people in the city, by virtue of neither resisting this law and by agreeing to both federal and provincial taxes, agree to have things how they are.

tl;dr the social contract ad infinitum
>>
>>259884851
Separately upheld, even.
>>
I don't get it what is so bad if amazon/google buys Twitch?
>>
>>259869735
It's for the guranteed userbase, infracstucture, and brand name.

Twitch was making so much bank that Amazon, Microsoft, Google were placing bids on the site.
>>
>>259886505
Also, Twitch already has deals for tons of e-sports streaming, and that is potentially an expanding market.
>>
>>259873723
>Democracy is a soft variant of communism
So he never read Politics by Aristotle ? A full fleged faggot I assume.

>>259874430
>Le evil rich people all want libertarianism/anarcho-capitalism!
That would be the case actually, unless you are a fedora faggot like the picture you poster.
> pour massive amounts of funding into propping up the highly statist
HHAHAHAHAHAHAH, they "destroy" the competency using it's "natural" enemy the state;

People, Americans in particular should learn a simple lesson, that the well being of society it's more important than having 5+ Billion dollars at the end of the year.
>>
>>259879563
>no good incentives for a healthy economy
Bait of the highest order, called the cops and the NSA.
Thread posts: 122
Thread images: 17


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]
Please support this website by donating Bitcoins to 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
If a post contains copyrighted or illegal content, please click on that post's [Report] button and fill out a post removal request
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site. This means that 4Archive shows an archive of their content. If you need information for a Poster - contact them.