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Should I buy Disgaea 3 or 4 on Vita?

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Should I buy Disgaea 3 or 4 on Vita?
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both
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>Supporting NISA
>Supporting censorship
>Supporting gamebreaking bugs
>Supporting shit

Top laughter.

Buy them if you want, but if you do get them used.
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>>259050437
copy pasting shit you don't understand will not give you much epeen. Maybe you should stay in your 5guys epic maymay hate threads from now, and die with them next week.
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>>259050294
i only have money and memory space for one, so i oughta make it count

>>259050437
dont care, need games
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>owning a Vita at all

You fucked up OP
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>>259050717
>copy pasting shit you don't understand will not give you much epeen

Have we reached the point where shills will deny outright facts?

I wonder why I'm still sometimes surprised at the depths garbage will go to.
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>>259050747
what makes it better over 3
>>259050819
dont care, got it cheap, console's comfy
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>>259051135
HD sprites, better story/characters, cheat shop and you can unlock the dlc characters at the beginning if you use code.

I probably forgot something but that's the gist of it.
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>>259051135
3 is universally regarded as the worst in the series, while most of the fanbase considers 4 to be better, or at least on par with 1, making it the best.
Mechanics are much more polished, HD sprites, endearing characters, much more side-content and motherfucking Troy Baker.
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either games are flat out better on vita because of addtional content/bugfixing
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>>259051801
>better story/characters
That's bullshit and you know it.
>you can unlock the dlc characters at the beginning if you use code.
You can do that with 3 as well.
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>>259052556
i see, i really want tsundere girl and cat girl though but HD sprites and content sounds good
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>>259050724
4. Ignore 3
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>>259051135
4 has the worst ragtag group in the series, an awful theme (school), a terrible story (DAD.........), and added new features that were useless at the time (magichange, replacing weapon mastery with weapon forte, etc)

Magic was so useless in 3 that it didn't even go to the standard Tera in the original release and only went to Omega.

the Vita release of 3 tried to fix what it could but you can only do so much. 4 on the other hand was great out the door, and the vita release only improves on it further.
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>>259053936
Oh also Laharl is at his worst in 3 as well. Since each character is just stuck with a 'joke' and they go with it.

Laharl's is his obsession with being the main character, so all of his battle lines are

THE ORIGINAL MAIN CHARACTER MAIN CHARACTER THE ORIGIMAIN CHARACTER MAIN CHARACTER THE ORIGINAL THE ORIGINAL MAIN CHARACTER
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Get 3 if you're a pedo, Raspberyl > Desco a million times, actually Desco pretty god damn annoying.

Otherwise get 4, wolfman housbando is top tier character.
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the only reason to have 3 on the Vita is so you can get Stella and Rutile in 4 by having a 3 save

Stella is ridiculous. I actually don't have 3 but I can use her in the tournament because other people registered her and she's strong as fuck.
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>>259050091
Fuck of Sonynigger
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>>259054583
Nice shitposting m8
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>>259054483
but you get Raspberyl in 4 too and she's actually useful this time as one of the best spellcasters in the game, what by making monsters useful for once, making magic useful, and making magichange useful (and making her magichange proper, into a staff)
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>>259050091

You don't have a PS3, let alone a hacked one?
I think you need to get on that.
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>>259054152
god i know, shitty ass voice dub however
>>259054483
agreed, fuka seems equally annoying
>>259054495
this is the main reason i want it as well
>>259054884
mmmm...

is there a way to get save files on the vita
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>>259053936
You fucked up the first sentence there
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>>259054986
>not knowing that the handheld disgaeas are always superior to the console versions
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>>259055170
jesus fuck I totally did

I obviously meant 3. Seriously though it's terrible

>Mad Scientist Edward Elric
>a useless (at the time) succubus loli
>her unique generic cohorts
>literally who the generic anime hero aka adell 2
>inferior rozalin
>epic emeril reference, boom!
>generic bishonen yaoi bait faglord
>totally not a nazi or anything but I'd fuck her

Also can someone tell me why the fuck Almaz gets Psycho Burgundy (and make it blue) in Disgaea 2 portable
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>love disgaea series never got to play 3 and 4 cause no ps3
>see 3 and 4 remade for vita save up money
>everywhere people shit on vita
>order one anyway it arrived yesterday
ive never felt so comfy with my 3ds man
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>>259052556
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also, how jarring is the VA replacement for Valvatorez or does Troy Baker do every line again
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>>259056575
>not using japanese
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>>259056575
The thing is that Valvatorez doesn't talk too much in the new scenario (which I think is the only cutscenes Mercer voiced) and I guess I didn't even pay attention to him.

However his battle lines are mingled. You'll hear BOTH Troy Baker and Matthew Mercer lines.
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>>259056953
I'm ok with this
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>>259056709
>Actually using JP voices.
Eww.

Dub always in any game.
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>>259056953
>not using the one that has most of the relevant NIS titles
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>>259050437
THIS.
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>>259057335
This one?
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>>259054495
dat evility
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>>259054495
>>259058007
She's a qt, would sex.
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post 4 screenshots
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>>259050437
this.

buy them used, dont hurt the games you like; youre figuratively punching yourself in the nuts everytime you give nisa your money.
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>>259050437
>>259058357
Stay retarded.

I'm buying them new, so that I can support NIS.
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>get 4 vita
>fuck around using the cheat code and get the extra scenarios out of the way
>Valvatorez is level 200 before finishing chapter 1
>not really willing to do the main story

what's happening to me
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>>259059046
Main story is shit anyway.
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>>259059148
but I gotta do it for the post game and also dem cheat shop bonuses
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>>259059412
Just rush through it then. Should be pretty easy with your team as high as it is.
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>>259059693
still a chore

but yeah with Valvatorez, a masked hero and gunner shit's ridiculous

Masked Hero runs circles around everyone, and both his and Gunner's unique skills are powerful as fuck (not that it's necessary for main game)
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>>259057294
I hope you enjoy bugs since the Vita version of D4 have several game crashing bug unless you use the Japanese voice.
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>>259060153
bugs are cool
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>>259060153
Fine with me.
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>>259060153
oh fuck me for crying out loud
>>259058007
getting this now then okay bai
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>>259051118
>outright facts?
Confirmed for copypasting retard. show's over for you kid.
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>>259062167
Just play in japanese
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Stay away from 3 and DD2 at all costs
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>>259062167
It's not worth it
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>>259066080
3 on Vita's fine

Dat stella and extra raspberyl screentime really made it worth it
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>>259050091
Disgaea 3 in the Vita was the best Disgaea you could buy because all the stuff they added and changed. That being said Disgaea 4 was better than 3 in the PS3, and they have done the same treatment for the Vita versions, so unless the bugs are just that lethal, you can't go wrong.
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>>259066080
>DD2
DD2 gameplay flows the best amongst any other Disgaea, it's a really good game, just not a really good disgaea.
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so is d4 on the vita a legitimately good jrpg or a very good disgaea game?
I know these games are basically infinite number-progression treadmills but are the graphics better than before, is the story worth seeing through to the end, is there a good enough reason to play through endgame content, does gear have any substantive weight to it or are they stat increasers, can I still do item world, etc.

I'm just a bit wary of buying vita games, I've been burned more than once by vita fanboys overhyping mediocre games and I'd like to give Disgaea another chance
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Both are really good, but 4 has only two bugs I know of so far. Hopefully they patch it soon cause shit is getting silly and I want to use Rutile.
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>>259060153
Oh shit what? Can you list down the bugs? I actually changed the english voice into japanese half way into the game.
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can you actually waifu people in this game?
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>>259070725
only in 4
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>>259071737
I'm sold.
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>>259071737
Aww shoot, I just have 3. Guess I will play something else from my backlog then.
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>>259071936
3 on vita still a good game
best postgame
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>>259071737
what, explain pls
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>There will never be another Soul Nomad
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4 is the better game. 3 is acceptable. Get both
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>>259072812
likeness system from DD2? In which the last step is actually love, so rev up those Flotna ships and other Laharlchan's harem fantasy
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>>259057475
I liked D2
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>>259068684
What bug does Rutile have? I haven't had anything crash when using her.
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>>259075187
I managed to get a couple harems in DD2
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>>259070725
Not every game needs waifus anon.
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>>259076617
Maybe the game doesn't need them. But I certainly do. Once I am at a point where I don't need them I will consider playing it.
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>>259076617

Asagi is best waifu
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>>259076934
What's her game again?
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>tfw Older Hanako will never be in another game
I was really hoping she'd pop up in DD2.
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>>259077082

My heart
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>>259076934
Best girl indeed.
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>>259050717
>copy pasting shit you don't understand will not give you much epeen.

Yeah, I wish copy pasting shit would fix my copy of Ar Tonelico 1 and 2, patch my With and 100, patch my Disgaea D2, remove the censorship of my Mugen Souls, or at least give agood translation to my Neptunia games.

But hey, keep supporting them, sooner or later theyll cross a line you wont be OK with, and you will bitch about "how did we come to this?"
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>>259050091
3 has best girl, 4 has better everything else. Personally I'd go for 3 since it has Raspberyl's extra mode, but 4's probably the better game.

Also >>259050437 this. Don't buy it digitally, buy a physical copy used.
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>>259079085

>3 has best girl

agreed. but so does 4
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>>259079545
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ITT: your generic waifu
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>>259079545

You mean the post game girls right?
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>>259079545
3 made Marona mean and never fixed it after you beat the post game

Marona is pure.

I liked how in 4 she gets 'possessed' by spirits and uses signature skills (Heliotrope blade and Psycho Burgundy). I'm assuming they copied this same exact shit to D2
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bump
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>>259077163
>I was really hoping she'd pop up in DD2.
dude they didn't even bring back the defender of Earth or Mid-boss or even half of hte monsters and D1 specific generics like female monks and male scouts, they didn't give half a shit about this game or something.
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>>259054495
>>259068684
man where do you get all this HD sprites? is there some full download for them? I really want them, all I find is shitty sprite sheets for older games none of this HD marvels.
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>>259078639
literally nothing there is related to the current game. You just yap what you heard in other NISA threads and believed to be aome epic board culture hate maymay.
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What level should the innocents at least be when you would considering entering an item for them?
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>>259083084
Im the guy who posted Rutile, I just found it on the Wiki. Im sure you can find the sprites somewhere.

>>259075727
Well it happened with my game. When Rutile was attacking a Neko in the stage "Lost Dignity" on Episode 5, the Neko will counter, but will be frozen and the game will stay stuck.
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>>259083347
whenever seems appropriate. higher the better, of course.

If you come across enforcers, these are special innocents you can use. They come pre-subdued, and allow you to transfer unsubdued innocents to another item, lowering the enforcer's level by 1 (disappearing when it reaches 0)

So you can empty out an item of innocents you don't want it, and, transfer as many, say, gladiators as possible, combining them into one high level gladiator that you can subdue and double its level.

It's useful as fuck for maxing out shit like Managers early on so you can get the Mana needed for shit.

I think they made Statisticians only available through reverse pirating though and fuck that shit.
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>>259083183
Well, how about that glitch game breaking bug that is featured in 4 Vita?

You can read about it on the official forums.
But HEY, it doesnt exist.

>>259083183
>You just yap what you heard in other NISA threads and believed to be aome epic board culture hate maymay.
At least you could pretend to write or communicate like a normal person instead of acting retarded anon. I made a notepad with several complains about their games, and I DO own all those titles I played, and I can guarantee those complains are real, at least in these titles.
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>>259050091
>bending legs
WHAT
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>>259050437

You can hate NISA all you want, but their support line is some of the best customer service I've ever had.
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>>259084590
Lots of complains should have given them lots of experience.
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>>259056953
>no Prinny 3

Shit six dood
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4's hub theme is addicting as fuck.
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The only disgaea i've played is disgaea 2, and I found it really fun
Which one should I play now though?
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>>259086186
Go for either 4 or 1. Only play the other two if you really really want more disgaea
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>>259085370
prinny 3 never
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Fuck, marry, kill
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Don't know why people are hating on 3, it was my first Disgaea game and I fell in love it in the first 5 mins. But 4 was better.
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>>259089304

this is what happens when anime retards get the idea that they're artists, so they try to trace/copy an already existing and established artists work without knowing fuck all about anatomy
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>>259089304
If you played the first 2 it's a kick in the teeth
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>>259089074
Kill Rozalin
Fuck Pram
Marry Asagi
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>>259089074

Fuck: Metallia, Raspberyl, Pram, Rosalind

I don't know the rest unfortunately.
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>>259089074
Marry Asagi
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>>259089074
Kill Fuka
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>>259089074
Fuck the prinny
Kill everyone else
Marry the world behind them
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>>259089074
Fuck Etna, marry the prinny, kill Asagi.
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>>259089858
... You don't know who etna is?
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>>259089582
Dude it's in a fucking lined notebook, it probably belongs to some shitty kid..
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>>259050091
D4 for the best girl.
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>>259092495
Best at being a piece of shit cunt fucking fuck fuck fuck fucky bitchtits fucky fuck asshole slut whore titty
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>>259057475
dated tier belongs in god tier.
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>>259050717
>5 guys epic maymay hate threads
Do yuo even know what the whole debacle is all about?

it's the rampant censorship, corruption and degradation of gaming journalism. How about reading the threads nwext time
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>>259093341
>boohoo gaming will die because i don't get my cp lolirubbing fanservice minigames
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>>259084359
Stylization
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>>259092889
you can't deny that it's dated as fuck

even the combat looks so fucking slow. If you compare it to the new attacks added in Ragnarok they're just flat out embarassing
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>>259052556
is that figure still available?
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>>259093615
can you even read?
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flonne is a slut
etna is a pure maiden
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>>259057475
Was D2 THAT bad?
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>>259057475

oh shit, I forgot PSP got a really good emulator recently.

I should play ZHP.
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>>259093870
Of course he can't. Why bother read the actual valid concerns people have about censorship when you can just belittle them and ignore them since after all, they hold the power and unless you forcibly take it from them, they will just continue to do so.
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>>259079830

Man, this artist really does like belly torture doesn't he?

I fucking love it.
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>>259058357
>No other sizes of this image found
I don't want no censored shit, man.
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>>259094202

> ZHP

The premise for this game sounds fucking retarded. Is it really that good?
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>>259094783
YES
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>>259094737

Draw Asagi being best girl

>>259094783

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wn6NYU7QeU
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>>259094904

I'll take your word for it but can you list 3 positive aspects about the game?

Downloading anyways.
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>>259094737
Genderbent
Laharl
Implied prostitution
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>>259094783
It's a roguelike and a pretty gud one at that.
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>>259095163

Dual audio?
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So I just got around to the original Disgaea on PSP due to needing a game to play on my phone. Do you guys have any other suggestions for NIS games? I already grabbed Disgaea 2 and La Pucelle.

I feel like a massive scrub for using monsters, since I'm told they're utter shit. They're just so much cooler looking than the humanoid units though.
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>>259084224
>game breaking bug
What game breaking bug?
All I can see are the € bug, random freezes and a specific freeze that (for the guy posting) happens everytime he tries to bring out a Baciel, and even then only on english voices.
Shitty? Yes.
Can it be fixed? Probably
Will it? Don't know, depends on if it'll happen to everyone or just a couple guys
Game breaker? No, you can still play just fine
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>>259096217
I always used monsters, some of them are good. I'vehad a few monster generics every Disgaea.
In Disgaea 1, I recall succubi being really good because of their life leech attack.
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>>259050091
nothing on vita
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>>259094048
No. The story is pretty shit but the cheatshop is awesome.

Multiple evilities for generics allow for more customization. For example, the new heavy knight with the defender evility will tank regardless of distance. Magic Knights have an evility that let them deal 100% more damage iff they exploit the enemy's elemental weakness, etc...

It also introduced promoting so no need to reincarnate to use a higher class tier and tons of little details like that.

Some people are mad you no longer need to do cryptic bullshit to access the land of carnage or how rarity is gone, that kind of shit. Personally, I prefer it this way, legendaries are legendaries, rares are rare and commons common. We all know people are going to reset if they don't find their perfect rarity 0 item anyway, if anything it saves time.
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>>259097221

:^)
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>>259096936
actually monsters were completely shitty until Disgaea 4

They were awful in 1, especially magic based monsters becuase there was no magic based weapons. 2 fixed this but they never became really useful until 4.
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>>259097279
>Some people are mad you no longer need to do cryptic bullshit to access the land of carnag

how is anyone mad at this, the land of carnage was absolute bullshit to unlock in every instance.
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>>259097279
There's one thing I like when it comes to pre-post game grindathon.
Healers get experience by healing.
Holy shit that was stupid in 1, I mean yeah, you could just teach them a single spell, but still.
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>>259097279

D2 basicly says that Prinny 1 and 2 are non-canon, which means Asagi never saved the netherworld and became an idol

Aka it's shit
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>>259097621
It's okay, in 4 vita they get a single target skill unique to them that calculates off Res, their primary stat.

It's OP as fuck and Healers can actually reliably kill shit. Sure, it's single target but it lets you focus on one stat entirely for them.
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>>259097829

>caring about Asagi
>ever

Really?
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>>259097575
I heard people say they liked the old fashioned way. I don't understand it either so don't ask me why.
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>>259097970

>Not caring about best girl

why?
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>>259097279
But isn't reincarnating better anyway because the better stats?
There always is a levels that reshapes itself into a "grind xp here in case what comes later is too tough", so I don't see why promoting is usefull.
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>>259095474
Yeah, it has english and japanese.
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>>259098259

I'm sold.
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>>259098185
they need to get rid of her shitty english voice that they have stuck on her

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iavLdHuOOxU

she's been like this since 4, giving her the voice of a lonely middle aged woman.

Asagi should be moe and she is in japanese.
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>>259097415
I wouldn't call them completely shitty.
They aren't as overpowered as magic is, but magic was pretty fucking overpowered at the end.

Monsters are useful in the early and midgame when every fight isn't just a magic user destroying everything from 30 tiles away.
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both so u can get stella in D4
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>>259098217
As far as I'm concerned, I dislike interrupting the main story to reincarnate so it's a very welcome feature.
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>>259050091
No, unless you want people to see you playing your loli games in public
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>>259099032
Not OP, but I enjoy playing Vita in bed. It's the definition of comfy
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>>259098634
only lasted 5 fucking seconds
fuck NISA
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>>259098634
its her prinny 1 VA neat
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>>259099850
It's supposed to be a reccuring joke that she has an inconsistent voice actor and personality but that went out the window by making her this stupid 'insane super idol' with the voice of a shitty socialite.
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>>259060153
Typical NISA buggy shit. However, if JP voice track fixes the errors, then I will have no issues at all.
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>>259098634
Oh jeez
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Reminder that Etna is the most powerful demon out there and she has enough power to destroy the universe also Laharl has an angel for a sister and she's actually really his sister and she wasn't lying
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>>259102039
You forgot:

>Laharl's mom killed herself to save her son
>oh btw she was pregnet (I checked)
>sorry baby sicilian pizza ur gonna have 2 die
>oh wait you can be an angel instead
>SUPER SECRET ANGEL SISTER SHE'S NOT LYING
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>>259102405

>Laharl's mom killed herself to save her son

Fuck that shit so hard. I was not expecting that gut punch right in the feels when everything else before it was just silly and downright goofy.
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>>259102709
yeah but they kind of kicked those feelings in the teeth by revealing she suicided while pregnant.
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>>259102405
Seriously fuck DD2's plot
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>>259102405
>(I checked)
I can totally fap to Sicily though
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>>259103756
Laharl-chan actually has a line where she asks you if you want to join her in the showers if you play as a generic
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>>259089074
Fuck Metallia
Marry Metallia
Kill not Metallia
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SHE SHE SHE~
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>>259106168
I'd let her stealmy virginity
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>>259106168
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>>259095007
Working on it
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I've got to think I'm the only person who actually enjoyed 3.

I also have trouble playing 4, because they removed my favourite generic unit.
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I have absolutely no fucking idea how to play Disgaea. But I really want to get into it. Any tips?
yes i want to git gud
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>>259108580
Just play.
You can get through most of the game just playing it as an SRPG.

After that, getting into the full depth of the game and learning it for yourself is half the fun.
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>>259092889
more like belongs in the thick thighs tier.
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>>259108340
>>259108340
I liked 3. It did have the best villain of the series ad gave us Beryl and Stella.
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>>259108580

That depends, do you want to play it the normal way, or do you want to play it maximus autismus way?

Normal:
Level up your characters, buy new items occasionally, get new monsters/humanoids occasionally. Grind when you have a tough time.

Maximus Autismus:
Level up your characters, grind items for hours and upgrade them in the item world, get advanced classes, reincarnate all day, carefully plan tutor/pupil relationships to maximize abilities and get broken combos, grind to level 99999.
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>>259103360

For real. You know you're in for a treat when right off the bat you start with "No, no one knows your the overlord", throwing pretty much 3/4ths of the first game out the window.
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>>259080478
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>>259108236
Harada what are you doing on /v/?
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>>259111492

harada would leave out the bikini until the very last second
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>>259111492
My same thought.
That drawfag is pretty good at drawing in Harada's style.
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>>259110781
slut
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>>259092889
Ragnarok is way better too bad we never gonna ger
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>>259113351
Faggot male healer detected.
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>>259097829
Prinny 2 never happen
because Laharl is a prinny on prinny 2
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>>259114421
It takes place in an alternate reality
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Reminder that Flonne is a slut and a whore
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>>259113992
At least they aren't complete sluts
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>>259117381
>implying traps are not sluts
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>>259117381
Go away, Archer.
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>>259117840
You have a point
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>>259114421
And you can't dismiss it as shit because Prinny 2 is pretty much the GOAT disgaea game
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Is there any pure girls in Disgaea?
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>>259120435
Rutile.
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>>259120435
Fuka. She's pure shit
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>>259056953
Switch Prinny 1 with Prinny 2 and put Disgaea 1 in God and we agree.
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IS THERE A TRANSLATION PATCH FOR LA PUCELLE RAGNAROK YET
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>>259120435
by pure you mean virgin? all of them

if you mean actuall purity then none.
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>>259122564
>implying any of them are virgins
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>>259122564
Only the second part is true.
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Time to bust some balls!
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>You will never be a prinny
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bumping until Drawfag finishes up
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>>259127437
i wish drawfag would draw etna looking at a flatscreen tv and subtly comparing herself to it
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>>259120435
Etna's pure, but she tries to hide it under a farce, trying to fool everyone into thinking she's a domineering type. The reality is that she blushes even at a hint of a kiss and Flonne's really the one in charge as Etna's actually very shy about that kind of stuff, and Flonne knows all about the concept of love.
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>>259127745
Now I want to see that too
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Valvatorez > Laharl > Adell > Mao

I liked Disgaea 4's cast and story more than the D1, although it kinda meanders a bit it helps that the cast is really likable. Valvatorez is a way more interesting protag, mainly because he's such an open person in comparison to the other MCs.
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>>259108340
haven't started 4 or D2 yet, but I thought 3 used the best story elements of 1 with some refinements from 2 and a new twist on the geopanels. The extra content on the Vita was more than substantial, and overall it's my favorite of the first 3.
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>>259128107
Didn't she force Laharl to massage her "So hard" in Prinny 2 though? Maybe she's only had sexual experience raping birds
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>>259128107
>t-that's forbidden love dood!
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>>259128140
i too want that
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>>259127745
one more
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>>259127745
>>259128140
>>259132935
>>259133723
me too
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Is it possible to use a physical copy of Disgaea 4 on the vita if my firmware is outdated? or does it force you to update?
I can't really remember what FW I was at, but I have the CFW that lets you play PSP roms & emulators which I don't really want to lose it because the Vita is godly for emulation
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MAIN CHARACTER MAIN CHARACTER MAIN CHARACTER MAIN CHARACTER MAIN CHARACTER MAIN CHARACTER
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>tfw based heavy knight class was only ever useful in D2
>tfw beastmaster will never be any good

I haven't played 4 yet but I hope generics are actually good this time
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>>259058007
>evility is the same in d4
>magichange desco with her
Place allies next to her to give her a total of 180% stat boost
Op as fug
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>>259057294
>that post
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>>259137785
D2 Etna had the best outfit.
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Stella's english VA makes me rock hard.
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>>259057294
>Actually being a faggot
>using eww
Out. Now.
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>>259138026
>liking lisp
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Whelp, I probably should've checked online to see if D2 was any good before buying it.

Good game, bad story. I suspect that the team that made it didn't make the original disgaea.
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>>259139351

I'm not noticing any lisp at all m8. You sure?
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>>259089074

Fuck Rozalin
Marry Pram
Kill Prinny
Adopt Marona
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>>259121508
what's wrong with Fuka?
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>>259140498
MUH DREAM MUH DREAM THIS IS A DREAM DREAM DREAM MUH DREAM THISIS ALL A DREAM MUH DREAM DREAM DREAM DREAM DREAM MUH FUCKING DREAM
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>>259140498
Her delusion thing got old real quick. I haven't played the DLC, but her character would have been more complete if they DIDN'T include that and just made it about world conqueror/daddy issues.
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bump
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>>259140949
Really hate how they do that, giving each character a single quirk gets really annoying quickly.
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>>259142396

ZAM!
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Currently playing disgaea 2, any tips/advice?
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>>259143119
You're gonna have to be a bit more specific. Post-game? Character builds? Item Worlds?
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>>259143450
Currently on chapter 9 or 10, just got etna. I guess I'm looking for help with the item world, seeing as I have no idea how it really works, same with felonies.
Also just general tips or neat things that I might have missed
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>>259140949
>>259140498
if you can shrug that off though shes a lot of fun
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>>259143829
>felonies
Throw a tower of 9 people into the felony gate: all 9 will get the felony.

Man, it's been so long since I played it.

>item world
if you're trying to strengthen an item, don't bother fighting, you're just sinking endless hours into the game. Get an item world runner: all shoes, boost movement however you can, and be a mothman or whichever race that passes through enemies. Run straight for the gates.

Spam long-range magic or use fist specials to get the gatekeepers off.

>endings
the endings are still reliant on ally kills, but some require a certain number of felonies to be on Adell(not pardoned)
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>>259143829
I haven't played 2 in a while but I still remember some things.

Make sure to have a thief on you with something like a gun (something that gives them a good hit stat); they're pretty much invaluable for stealing good shit especially when you want to get the highest tier of weapons, because you can only steal them from the boss in the 100th floor in the item world

Get some heavy knights if you're lazy, you can use them and just throw your way to then end of an item world level in like, one turn only.

I think if you hold down triangle after selecting an attack and before you move the unit, you can move the character around and it shows what enemies it will hit, although I can't really remember that well.

Try getting specialists and getting felonies, because they make grinding A LOT easier and faster, in Disgaea 3 I can get any character to level 9999 in a few minutes with specialists

There's probably some other stuff, but I haven't played any Disgaea in a while >tfw my Vita died
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>>259144748
>>259144781
Thanks. Is there any downside to felonies? Or is having max on all characters worth it
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>>259145058
not ALL the characters, but then you don't really need felonies at all to finish the main story. I never finished post-game, so you might wanna check gamefaqs or something for the nitty gritty.
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>>259145058
I don't think so, apart from the annoying stamp thingy. I think felonies cap at 200, but the sticker only goes up to 99 so its annoying to tell how much you have.

Shit, I think I need to play some Disgaea again
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>>259145058
you need 33/66/99 felonies on one character to trigger some postgame bills.

Getting 300 Felonies total on one character grants you 400% of your regular EXP gains, which is where it maxes out. Makes grinding them faster when you're working reincarnating your postgame squad for max stats.

Also having certain numbers of felonies active on Adell is a requirement for several of the bad endings.
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>>259145874
Seeing Zetta in book form never fails to bring a smile to my face.

>>259144161
exactly. The delusion thing was purely to make her introduction funnier, and has no bearing on her actual background and character.
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>>259145650
>>259145874
>>259145887
Ahh, alright. Thanks anons, I'll work on getting them next then, didn't realize they were actually necessary or gave exp gains.
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>>259098098

Post game was entirely lackluster in D2, so I might be inclines to agree that this is a contributing factor.
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>>259106168

She has an erotic cat voice in D2 for some reason.
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>>259143047

SARDINES
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>>259147231
MAIN CHARACTER
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>>259147396

THAT'S JUST MY STYLE[/SPOILER]
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>>259050091
4.


3 is dogshit with awful characters
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>>259097279
Disgaea D2 sucked because of the revamped defense system.

Spent a hour or two in item world overleveling and getting great equips, only for a pumpkin to one shot me on the next story map 20+ levels below me.

And then there's Adells new voice holy fucking shit
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>>259148930
No, it mainly sucked because of that godawful plot
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>>259060153
Cool you don't own the game

Played through everything in 4 without a single bug and using the english VA's
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>>259149653

>beat the main game

What? Literally nothing happened. And where the hell is Captain Gordon?
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>there will never be a doujin of this
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>>259148930
DD2 actually has a defense stat that matters again. Disgaea 3 and 4 made it to where all you need is spd to survive anything
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>>259150272
You can do that as any generic. Also,
>>259103756
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>>259151023
I know but god damn did I pop a boner when I first saw this
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>>259151356
>that prinny doing a desperate censor
cute
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>>259151356
>Flonne's face
S L U T
L
U
T
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>>259153010
news at eleven
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>>259106168

1
>doesn't exist
2
>cute voice
3
>one of her voices are cute as fuck holy shit
4
>all her voice options suck

Same fate for the female samurai, her voice options in 4 suck. I miss "Die Already!" and "Green Horn!"
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Why did Mercer ruin his voice?
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>>259154615
I thought it fit as a Tyrant but jesus christ it does not suit skinny nerd Val
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I wish I could play a Disgaea hack and slash or CUHRAZY game
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>>259155028
Disgaea is already pretty CUHRAZY for an srpg
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>>259153376
>>259153376
>>259153376
My DIIIIICK
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>>259155119
Yeah but it still plays like an SRPG

I want to be able to move around in three dimensions and mash buttons, but with the Disgaea characters, art style, and sense of humor
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>>259154848
They should have just kept troy baker voice work as the only battle va. Constantly switching from troy to mercer in battle is jarring as fuck
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>>259155269

I'm trying really hard to see it but I just can't.

And I love to death all the bonus screen art and intro videos that show the cast and generics in out of battle scenarios.
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>>259080478
Still the best.
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>>259089074
Fuck Metalia
Marry Rozalin
Kill everyone else except Asagi
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>>259155812

You're close but juuuuuuust of the mark.
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>>259080478
No shame
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Get the PS3 versions instead.
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>>259080478


always been >>259110781
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>>259108340
3 introduced the best girl and than never used her. Fuck 3.
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>>259156397

I liked her accent it went a little too hard sometimes though. The best part by far was her battle stance.
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>>259155731
Agreed on that, it was bothering me until I found out what was going on with it. It's also pretty jarring in the new ending
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>>259156250
>Get the version with less content and with less customization!

What on earth is wrong with you
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>>259156771
wait there is a new ending? I thought only the time loop shit was added.
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>>259156920

Less content, customization, not portable and can't be stopped and started whenever you want.

I dunno how people can play disgaea on consoles, it belongs on portable.
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>>259156250
You're a funny guy. I'll kill you first
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>>259157169
>Can't be stopped and started whenever you want
I can't imagine playing the Item world on a console
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>>259154615
What's the deal with NISA and Troy baker anyways?

is it like Kojima and David Hayter?
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>>259157086
Basically in the original ending Artina mentions Val getting pulled into Fear the Great and that never happens.

They extended it now to have him actually get sucked up and he has a fight with god. Thing is for that one single scene it's his new voice then he goes right back to normal
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>>259157658
Not anymore as Troy went Union.

Funny enough Troys replacement from Persona 4 (Kanji) is doing Val's replacement to
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>>259157726
Got a link to this scene? Sounds awesome
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>>259157865
we lose more good voice acting that way
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>>259157865
Yuri Lowethal is union and they still use him for gig
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>>259156397
She looks like a slut
a cool slut
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asagi game when
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>>259159738
NEVER

EVER

seriously if they give her a game she'd lose her shtick
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>>259159738
Once NISA makes a bug-free localization
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>>259158031
It's really not all that big, Val vanishes and appears in a black void with a bunch of special effects floating around him.

God tells him that he can't have Nemo's soul but due to Val's bravery God won't blow up Earth anymore (for awhile anyway).

Val tells her to fuck off (it's a womans voice) and asks if she's ever been slapped before, then does the generic swinging animation with a huge green special effect firing off- poof val pops back and the scene resumes as normal with Troy
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>>259161654
Huh so you don't have an actual fight with god
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>>259161875
Nah, there's the alternate end from the original where the god mushrooms come in but it's only a quick scene in the normal one
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Is drawfag still here or did he head to sleep?
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>>259159738
2cute
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Who is the better demon gril
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>>259164178
Raspberyl isn't a btw you have super ultra powerful secret powers that can destroy the universe fanfic tier piece of shit.

also she's cute
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>>259164854
I can agree with that.
D1 Etna is superior though
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>>259164854
Too bad she's a literal semen demon.
fuck that bullshit plot point though holy shit
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>>259166076
I'll admit I liked her attack
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>>259108340
3 was my second favorite.
>Best ninja/Asagi voice in the entire series
>Best Prinny voice in the series
>Best thief voice "GAGIDDY WHIP"
>All pretty likeable characters with the exception of that bitch Saphire
>Dat Laharl joke boss scene
>Rasberyl
I don't really get all the dicksucking with 4 here. Val and Desco were pretty cool, but everyone else annoyed the shit out of me.
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>>259156106
>tfw androids were originally female warriors
It's like two in one!
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>>259168617

>Almaz
>Likable

Anon please.
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>>259169383

H-hes so reluctant. How can you not like him?
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>>259169558

He's fucking annoying dude.

>w-we can't do that!!
>Oh no!!

Holy fuck, go away please
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>>259159738

A more reasonable thing would be to ask for Prinny 3, Since Asagi is garanteed to have a decent amount of screentime in it, just like the first two prinny games.
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Why the fuck did they stop using the coolest Majin design after a single game.
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>>259172919
Why did they stop using Majin in the first place?
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>>259172919
dbz majin is best majin
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>>259173387
Samurai Smurf Akuma > *
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>>259106168
>Stealing a female's balls or first kiss/innoncence
>>
Where is drawfag?
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>>259172919
Majins in 1 actually make me laugh because their 120% across the board aptitudes are laughable nowadays where classes will easily reach 150+% without needing do other shit in their specialization.
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>>259080478
>>
What's so bad about D2? I always wanted a sequel to the original.
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>>259177272
Mainly the story.

Laharl has a little sister, Etna is an imouto and gains incredible power at the end.
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>>259177272
it does some nice shit but throws a lot of shit out the window.

+Cheatshop streamlines a bunch of shit, letting you edit mana/exp/hl drops
+Weapon mastery returns, along with a new weapon type
+No bullshit to get the Land of Carnage
+Rasetsu mode takes off a lot of limitations, increasing the stat cap and lets items go all the way to level 999
+Promotion option instead of having to reincarnate to move up a tier

-bullshit fanfic tier story that exists for no reason
-Laharl is 'unknown' in his netherwold despite being the fucking overlord
-Etna actually has super secret destroy the universe powers sealed within her
-An angel who claims to be laharl's sister she's not lying
-Etna's super secret brother, blah blah blah
-remove magichange when it actually is good now, replace it with monster riding
-recycled DLC out of the ass, only 7 of the 22 DLC characters are fresh
>>
whats the difference between FFTactics and Disgea mechanics wise?
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>>259178881
FFT has the good sense to know when enough is enough.
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>>259179309
but wots the differrence
all I see is BIG BIG numbers and Huge amounts of levels and shit
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>>259178561

What ending of Disgaea 1 does D2 follow anyway? It can't be the good one because there the Netherworld accept Laharl as the Overlord, it can't be the normal ending because there Laharl becomes a prinny (which does lead into Prinny 1 and 2 however, which could have worked into D2 but they didn't want that for some reason), and the bad endings obviously wouldn't work either.
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>>259178881
FFT was more about actual tactics

Disgaea is more about having absurd stats and having cool attacks.

the Geo Panel system does offer the puzzle aspect to the game though.
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>>259179468
the canon ending is the "Good ending", where Lamington brings Flonne back as a fallen angel and Laharl stays like normal.

some games take after the normal ending (laharl becomes a prinny) but it's known to be non canon, such as the Prinny games.
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I know absolutely nothing about Disgaea, where do I start?
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>>259179802

>Laharl is finally recognized as the Overlord, Etna returns to commanding her Prinny squad along with Aramis, Flonne becomes a teacher

None of this is in or referenced in D2

prinny 1 and 2 also have Fallen Angel Flonne however, so they don't take after the normal ending aswell
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>>259180097
Order of release, always.
Or if you just want to jump in, go for the latest, most acclaimed release.
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>>259084359
muscle contraction on the upper part, plus the top of the feet bending to follow the curve. It happens even in real life.
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>>259180532
don't forget

>no Gordon or his posse
->in fact no earth
>in fact this is the first time there's not a single human character at all in the story
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didn't read the thread
rozalin best girl
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>>259148930
>Disgaea D2 sucked because of the revamped defense system.
are you retarded? defense has never been so usefull in DD2. You got one shot because you are a smashing buttong idiot that didn't bothered to recognize monster's evilites.
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>>259153010
It's not slutty if you Love it.
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>>259146524
it only lacks the X-world. I miss the challenge too but it's not really major, the rest is the same as other games.
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>>259180739
I'm pretty sure the internal drama at Nis got a big chunk of the content removed because unfinished.
Would also explain why changing some sound and text files can crashes a game at all. loosy programing full of hardcoded data to cut content fast.
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>>259181013

That's a funny way of spelling Asagi
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>>259181013
Well duh.
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pleinair >asagi.
Asagi is pretty boring, the idol schtick is the same as Axel's and she's flat because lolflat is an easy running joke in Disgaea.
Even Nis doesn't seem to care much, and prefered to rename and Archer for their idol chapter instead of using her at all.
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>>259183190

>and she's flat because lolflat

???
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>>259183467
ok, maybe not that flat, just not cow tier.
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>>259183467
beetle asagi is my waifu
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>>259086186

Every game but 1 doesn't feature Hell knights. D2 is a good game, but every man must ask himself if the loss of the best generic is worth it.
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>>259183467
I wish Nis would actually make games like that instead of all those wacky jokes. Lots of the shit they put in the interchapter comment are way more interesting than what the game makes you play.
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>>259148930

>That's my style!

No you fucking retard, it's
>that's just my style!
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>>259183870
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bumping

drawfag please come back
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>>259158126
Wait what? Please don't tell me they removed his original VA

>>259186685
Shit, this thread's 17 hours old now
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>>259187053

Now it's pretty much dead aswell.
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>>259187053
They changed his original va back in disgaea 2. Crispin Freeman hasn't voiced him since makai
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flat
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>>259190003
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>>259190160

l-lewd
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>>259106168
Is it wrong that I want to sexualize the thief
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>>259122548
This, except replace La Pucelle with Phantom Kingdom
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>>259191384
Yes no
>tfw no beastmaster r34
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>>259191763
There's not a whole lot of porn of any of the generics, is there? It's a damn shame.
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how the fuck could they just totally ignore the defenders of earth in D2?
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>>259193228
>The EDF will never appear in another Disgaea game
>The Defenders of Earth will never be mentioned again
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>>259193773

m-maybe DD2 for the vita will fix the fucked up plot?
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they had at least minor roles in nearly everything disgaea related, the gargantua was even in some crappy crossover game i think, but in the direct sequel to disgaea they just all of a sudden dont exist
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>>259193773
I think Bio suits officially replaced EDF soldiers.

Still, the fact that there's absolutely nothing concerning humans happening in D2 (not even an honorable mention of Gordon) is stupid
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How do you pronounce Disgaea?
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>>259195031
diss gaia
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>>259194782
>game theme is familly
>pork meister makes it
>but not mid boss
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>>259193773
>>259194782
>>259193228
The continuity is shot to hell, but it's probable that Gordon and Jennifer are already dead from old age. The LNs touch this by timeskipping 20, then 100 years.
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>>259196090

D2 story doesn't make sense and is shit.

done
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>>259196090
D2 is supposed to take place before disgaea 2, so I doubt 100 year occurs.
Even then, this could be the opportunity to have EDF prinnies around, of maybe a new EDF team
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>>259050091
4 is much better in every regard.
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>>259196531
>new EDF team
that would have been the BEST

>You call yourself a hero? Pathetic, my vassal was a better hero than you!
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>>259196782
>new EDF team
>it's fucking magical girls
>laharl gloats and try to send them to the kitchen thinking it's another case of sentai shit
>They are actually a mix of pretty cure and Nanoha and flatten him until Flonne put them under her wings and they begomevassals by proxy
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>>259198636
>laharl turns into a girl
>beats up the magical girls no problem
>laharl still unhappy because this implies he's better off as a girl
I'd like it better than idol crap anyway.
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