>copy pasting shit you don't understand will not give you much epeen
Have we reached the point where shills will deny outright facts?
I wonder why I'm still sometimes surprised at the depths garbage will go to.
3 is universally regarded as the worst in the series, while most of the fanbase considers 4 to be better, or at least on par with 1, making it the best.
Mechanics are much more polished, HD sprites, endearing characters, much more side-content and
motherfucking Troy Baker.
either games are
flat outbetter on vita because of addtional content/bugfixing
4 has the worst ragtag group in the series, an awful theme (school), a terrible story (DAD.........), and added new features that were useless at the time (magichange, replacing weapon mastery with weapon forte, etc)
Magic was so useless in 3 that it didn't even go to the standard Tera in the original release and only went to Omega.
the Vita release of 3 tried to fix what it could but you can only do so much. 4 on the other hand was great out the door, and the vita release only improves on it further.
Oh also Laharl is at his worst in 3 as well. Since each character is just stuck with a 'joke' and they go with it.
Laharl's is his obsession with being the main character, so all of his battle lines are
THE ORIGINAL MAIN CHARACTER MAIN CHARACTER THE ORIGIMAIN CHARACTER MAIN CHARACTER THE ORIGINAL THE ORIGINAL MAIN CHARACTER
the only reason to have 3 on the Vita is so you can get Stella and Rutile in 4 by having a 3 save
Stella is ridiculous. I actually don't have 3 but I can use her in the tournament because other people registered her and she's strong as fuck.
but you get Raspberyl in 4 too and she's actually useful this time as one of the best spellcasters in the game, what by making monsters useful for once, making magic useful, and making magichange useful (and making her magichange proper, into a staff)
god i know, shitty ass voice dub however
agreed, fuka seems equally annoying
this is the main reason i want it as well
is there a way to get save files on the vita
jesus fuck I totally did
I obviously meant 3. Seriously though it's terrible
>Mad Scientist Edward Elric
>a useless (at the time) succubus loli
>her unique generic cohorts
>literally who the generic anime hero aka adell 2
>epic emeril reference, boom!
>generic bishonen yaoi bait faglord
>totally not a nazi or anything but I'd fuck her
Also can someone tell me why the fuck Almaz gets Psycho Burgundy (and make it blue) in Disgaea 2 portable
>love disgaea series never got to play 3 and 4 cause no ps3
>see 3 and 4 remade for vita save up money
>everywhere people shit on vita
>order one anyway it arrived yesterday
ive never felt so comfy with my 3ds man
The thing is that Valvatorez doesn't talk too much in the new scenario (which I think is the only cutscenes Mercer voiced) and I guess I didn't even pay attention to him.
However his battle lines are mingled. You'll hear BOTH Troy Baker and Matthew Mercer lines.
buy them used, dont hurt the games you like; youre figuratively punching yourself in the nuts everytime you give nisa your money.
>get 4 vita
>fuck around using the cheat code and get the extra scenarios out of the way
>Valvatorez is level 200 before finishing chapter 1
>not really willing to do the main story
what's happening to me
still a chore
but yeah with Valvatorez, a masked hero and gunner shit's ridiculous
Masked Hero runs circles around everyone, and both his and Gunner's unique skills are powerful as fuck (not that it's necessary for main game)
Disgaea 3 in the Vita was the best Disgaea you could buy because all the stuff they added and changed. That being said Disgaea 4 was better than 3 in the PS3, and they have done the same treatment for the Vita versions, so unless the bugs are just that lethal, you can't go wrong.
so is d4 on the vita a legitimately good jrpg or a very good disgaea game?
I know these games are basically infinite number-progression treadmills but are the graphics better than before, is the story worth seeing through to the end, is there a good enough reason to play through endgame content, does gear have any substantive weight to it or are they stat increasers, can I still do item world, etc.
I'm just a bit wary of buying vita games, I've been burned more than once by vita fanboys overhyping mediocre games and I'd like to give Disgaea another chance
Both are really good, but 4 has only two bugs I know of so far. Hopefully they patch it soon cause shit is getting silly and I want to use Rutile.
Not every game needs waifus anon.
Asagi is best waifu
>copy pasting shit you don't understand will not give you much epeen.
Yeah, I wish copy pasting shit would fix my copy of Ar Tonelico 1 and 2, patch my With and 100, patch my Disgaea D2, remove the censorship of my Mugen Souls, or at least give agood translation to my Neptunia games.
But hey, keep supporting them, sooner or later theyll cross a line you wont be OK with, and you will bitch about "how did we come to this?"
3 has best girl, 4 has better everything else. Personally I'd go for 3 since it has Raspberyl's extra mode, but 4's probably the better game.
Also >>259050437 this. Don't buy it digitally, buy a physical copy used.
>3 has best girl
but so does 4
3 made Marona mean and never fixed it after you beat the post game
Marona is pure.
I liked how in 4 she gets 'possessed' by spirits and uses signature skills (Heliotrope blade and Psycho Burgundy). I'm assuming they copied this same exact shit to D2
>I was really hoping she'd pop up in DD2.
dude they didn't even bring back the defender of Earth or Mid-boss or even half of hte monsters and D1 specific generics like female monks and male scouts, they didn't give half a shit about this game or something.
man where do you get all this HD sprites? is there some full download for them? I really want them, all I find is shitty sprite sheets for older games none of this HD marvels.
Im the guy who posted Rutile, I just found it on the Wiki. Im sure you can find the sprites somewhere.
Well it happened with my game. When Rutile was attacking a Neko in the stage "Lost Dignity" on Episode 5, the Neko will counter, but will be frozen and the game will stay stuck.
whenever seems appropriate. higher the better, of course.
If you come across enforcers, these are special innocents you can use. They come pre-subdued, and allow you to transfer unsubdued innocents to another item, lowering the enforcer's level by 1 (disappearing when it reaches 0)
So you can empty out an item of innocents you don't want it, and, transfer as many, say, gladiators as possible, combining them into one high level gladiator that you can subdue and double its level.
It's useful as fuck for maxing out shit like Managers early on so you can get the Mana needed for shit.
I think they made Statisticians only available through reverse pirating though and fuck that shit.
Well, how about that glitch game breaking bug that is featured in 4 Vita?
You can read about it on the official forums.
But HEY, it doesnt exist.
>You just yap what you heard in other NISA threads and believed to be aome epic board culture hate maymay.
At least you could pretend to write or communicate like a normal person instead of acting retarded anon. I made a notepad with several complains about their games, and I DO own all those titles I played, and I can guarantee those complains are real, at least in these titles.
Don't know why people are hating on 3, it was my first Disgaea game and I fell in love it in the first 5 mins. But 4 was better.
this is what happens when anime retards get the idea that they're artists, so they try to trace/copy an already existing and established artists work without knowing fuck all about anatomy
D4 for the best girl.
>5 guys epic maymay hate threads
Do yuo even know what the whole debacle is all about?
it's the rampant censorship, corruption and degradation of gaming journalism. How about reading the threads nwext time
>boohoo gaming will die because i don't get my cp lolirubbing fanservice minigames
Of course he can't. Why bother read the actual valid concerns people have about censorship when you can just belittle them and ignore them since after all, they hold the power and unless you forcibly take it from them, they will just continue to do so.
So I just got around to the original Disgaea on PSP due to needing a game to play on my phone. Do you guys have any other suggestions for NIS games? I already grabbed Disgaea 2 and La Pucelle.
I feel like a massive scrub for using monsters, since I'm told they're utter shit. They're just so much cooler looking than the humanoid units though.
>game breaking bug
What game breaking bug?
All I can see are the € bug, random freezes and a specific freeze that (for the guy posting) happens everytime he tries to bring out a Baciel, and even then only on english voices.
Can it be fixed? Probably
Will it? Don't know, depends on if it'll happen to everyone or just a couple guys
Game breaker? No, you can still play just fine
I always used monsters, some of them are good. I'vehad a few monster generics every Disgaea.
In Disgaea 1, I recall succubi being really good because of their life leech attack.
No. The story is pretty shit but the cheatshop is awesome.
Multiple evilities for generics allow for more customization. For example, the new heavy knight with the defender evility will tank regardless of distance. Magic Knights have an evility that let them deal 100% more damage iff they exploit the enemy's elemental weakness, etc...
It also introduced promoting so no need to reincarnate to use a higher class tier and tons of little details like that.
Some people are mad you no longer need to do cryptic bullshit to access the land of carnage or how rarity is gone, that kind of shit. Personally, I prefer it this way, legendaries are legendaries, rares are rare and commons common. We all know people are going to reset if they don't find their perfect rarity 0 item anyway, if anything it saves time.
actually monsters were completely shitty until Disgaea 4
They were awful in 1, especially magic based monsters becuase there was no magic based weapons. 2 fixed this but they never became really useful until 4.
>Some people are mad you no longer need to do cryptic bullshit to access the land of carnag
how is anyone mad at this, the land of carnage was absolute bullshit to unlock in every instance.
There's one thing I like when it comes to pre-post game grindathon.
Healers get experience by healing.
Holy shit that was stupid in 1, I mean yeah, you could just teach them a single spell, but still.
It's okay, in 4 vita they get a single target skill unique to them that calculates off Res, their primary stat.
It's OP as fuck and Healers can actually reliably kill shit. Sure, it's single target but it lets you focus on one stat entirely for them.
>Not caring about best girl
But isn't reincarnating better anyway because the better stats?
There always is a levels that reshapes itself into a "grind xp here in case what comes later is too tough", so I don't see why promoting is usefull.
Yeah, it has english and japanese.
they need to get rid of her shitty english voice that they have stuck on her
she's been like this since 4, giving her the voice of a lonely middle aged woman.
Asagi should be moe and she is in japanese.
I wouldn't call them completely shitty.
They aren't as overpowered as magic is, but magic was pretty fucking overpowered at the end.
Monsters are useful in the early and midgame when every fight isn't just a magic user destroying everything from 30 tiles away.
It's supposed to be a reccuring joke that she has an inconsistent voice actor and personality but that went out the window by making her this stupid 'insane super idol' with the voice of a shitty socialite.
Reminder that Etna is the most powerful demon out there and she has enough power to destroy the universe also Laharl has an angel for a sister and she's actually really his sister and she wasn't lying
>Laharl's mom killed herself to save her son
>oh btw she was pregnet (I checked)
>sorry baby sicilian pizza ur gonna have 2 die
>oh wait you can be an angel instead
>SUPER SECRET ANGEL SISTER SHE'S NOT LYING
>Laharl's mom killed herself to save her son
Fuck that shit so hard. I was not expecting that gut punch right in the feels when everything else before it was just silly and downright goofy.
I can totally fap to Sicily though
I've got to think I'm the only person who actually enjoyed 3.
I also have trouble playing 4, because they removed my favourite generic unit.
That depends, do you want to play it the normal way, or do you want to play it maximus autismus way?
Level up your characters, buy new items occasionally, get new monsters/humanoids occasionally. Grind when you have a tough time.
Level up your characters, grind items for hours and upgrade them in the item world, get advanced classes, reincarnate all day, carefully plan tutor/pupil relationships to maximize abilities and get broken combos, grind to level 99999.
For real. You know you're in for a treat when right off the bat you start with "No, no one knows your the overlord", throwing pretty much 3/4ths of the first game out the window.
Ragnarok is way better too bad we never gonna ger
Prinny 2 never happen
because Laharl is a prinny on prinny 2
Is there any pure girls in Disgaea?
IS THERE A TRANSLATION PATCH FOR LA PUCELLE RAGNAROK YET
Etna's pure, but she tries to hide it under a farce, trying to fool everyone into thinking she's a domineering type. The reality is that she blushes even at a hint of a kiss and Flonne's really the one in charge as Etna's actually very shy about that kind of stuff, and Flonne knows all about the concept of love.
Valvatorez > Laharl > Adell > Mao
I liked Disgaea 4's cast and story more than the D1, although it kinda meanders a bit it helps that the cast is really likable. Valvatorez is a way more interesting protag, mainly because he's such an open person in comparison to the other MCs.
haven't started 4 or D2 yet, but I thought 3 used the best story elements of 1 with some refinements from 2 and a new twist on the geopanels. The extra content on the Vita was more than substantial, and overall it's my favorite of the first 3.
Is it possible to use a physical copy of Disgaea 4 on the vita if my firmware is outdated? or does it force you to update?
I can't really remember what FW I was at, but I have the CFW that lets you play PSP roms & emulators which I don't really want to lose it because the Vita is godly for emulation
>evility is the same in d4
>magichange desco with her
Place allies next to her to give her a total of 180% stat boost
Op as fug
Her delusion thing got old real quick. I haven't played the DLC, but her character would have been more complete if they DIDN'T include that and just made it about world conqueror/daddy issues.
Currently on chapter 9 or 10, just got etna. I guess I'm looking for help with the item world, seeing as I have no idea how it really works, same with felonies.
Also just general tips or neat things that I might have missed
Throw a tower of 9 people into the felony gate: all 9 will get the felony.
Man, it's been so long since I played it.
if you're trying to strengthen an item, don't bother fighting, you're just sinking endless hours into the game. Get an item world runner: all shoes, boost movement however you can, and be a mothman or whichever race that passes through enemies. Run straight for the gates.
Spam long-range magic or use fist specials to get the gatekeepers off.
the endings are still reliant on ally kills, but some require a certain number of felonies to be on Adell(not pardoned)
I haven't played 2 in a while but I still remember some things.
Make sure to have a thief on you with something like a gun (something that gives them a good hit stat); they're pretty much invaluable for stealing good shit especially when you want to get the highest tier of weapons, because you can only steal them from the boss in the 100th floor in the item world
Get some heavy knights if you're lazy, you can use them and just throw your way to then end of an item world level in like, one turn only.
I think if you hold down triangle after selecting an attack and before you move the unit, you can move the character around and it shows what enemies it will hit, although I can't really remember that well.
Try getting specialists and getting felonies, because they make grinding A LOT easier and faster, in Disgaea 3 I can get any character to level 9999 in a few minutes with specialists
There's probably some other stuff, but I haven't played any Disgaea in a while
>tfw my Vita died
not ALL the characters, but then you don't really need felonies at all to finish the main story. I never finished post-game, so you might wanna check gamefaqs or something for the nitty gritty.
I don't think so, apart from the annoying stamp thingy. I think felonies cap at 200, but the sticker only goes up to 99 so its annoying to tell how much you have.
Shit, I think I need to play some Disgaea again
you need 33/66/99 felonies on one character to trigger some postgame bills.
Getting 300 Felonies total on one character grants you 400% of your regular EXP gains, which is where it maxes out. Makes grinding them faster when you're working reincarnating your postgame squad for max stats.
Also having certain numbers of felonies active on Adell is a requirement for several of the bad endings.
Seeing Zetta in book form never fails to bring a smile to my face.
exactly. The delusion thing was purely to make her introduction funnier, and has no bearing on her actual background and character.
Disgaea D2 sucked because of the revamped defense system.
Spent a hour or two in item world overleveling and getting great equips, only for a pumpkin to one shot me on the next story map 20+ levels below me.
And then there's Adells new voice holy fucking shit
I know but god damn did I pop a boner when I first saw this
>one of her voices are cute as fuck holy shit
>all her voice options suck
Same fate for the female samurai, her voice options in 4 suck. I miss "Die Already!" and "Green Horn!"
They should have just kept troy baker voice work as the only battle va. Constantly switching from troy to mercer in battle is jarring as fuck
You're close but juuuuuuust of the mark.
3 introduced the best girl and than never used her. Fuck 3.
wait there is a new ending? I thought only the time loop shit was added.
Basically in the original ending Artina mentions Val getting pulled into Fear the Great and that never happens.
They extended it now to have him actually get sucked up and he has a fight with god. Thing is for that one single scene it's his new voice then he goes right back to normal
we lose more good voice acting that way
It's really not all that big, Val vanishes and appears in a black void with a bunch of special effects floating around him.
God tells him that he can't have Nemo's soul but due to Val's bravery God won't blow up Earth anymore (for awhile anyway).
Val tells her to fuck off (it's a womans voice) and asks if she's ever been slapped before, then does the generic swinging animation with a huge green special effect firing off- poof val pops back and the scene resumes as normal with Troy
Raspberyl isn't a btw you have super ultra powerful secret powers that can destroy the universe fanfic tier piece of shit.
also she's cute
3 was my second favorite.
>Best ninja/Asagi voice in the entire series
>Best Prinny voice in the series
>Best thief voice "GAGIDDY WHIP"
>All pretty likeable characters with the exception of that bitch Saphire
>Dat Laharl joke boss scene
I don't really get all the dicksucking with 4 here. Val and Desco were pretty cool, but everyone else annoyed the shit out of me.
A more reasonable thing would be to ask for Prinny 3, Since Asagi is garanteed to have a decent amount of screentime in it, just like the first two prinny games.
Why the fuck did they stop using the coolest Majin design after a single game.
>Stealing a female's balls or first kiss/innoncence
Majins in 1 actually make me laugh because their 120% across the board aptitudes are laughable nowadays where classes will easily reach 150+% without needing do other shit in their specialization.
it does some nice shit but throws a lot of shit out the window.
+Cheatshop streamlines a bunch of shit, letting you edit mana/exp/hl drops
+Weapon mastery returns, along with a new weapon type
+No bullshit to get the Land of Carnage
+Rasetsu mode takes off a lot of limitations, increasing the stat cap and lets items go all the way to level 999
+Promotion option instead of having to reincarnate to move up a tier
-bullshit fanfic tier story that exists for no reason
-Laharl is 'unknown' in his netherwold despite being the fucking overlord
-Etna actually has super secret destroy the universe powers sealed within her
-An angel who claims to be laharl's sister
she's not lying
-Etna's super secret brother, blah blah blah
-remove magichange when it actually is good now, replace it with monster riding
-recycled DLC out of the ass, only 7 of the 22 DLC characters are fresh
What ending of Disgaea 1 does D2 follow anyway? It can't be the good one because there the Netherworld accept Laharl as the Overlord, it can't be the normal ending because there Laharl becomes a prinny (which does lead into Prinny 1 and 2 however, which could have worked into D2 but they didn't want that for some reason), and the bad endings obviously wouldn't work either.
FFT was more about actual tactics
Disgaea is more about having absurd stats and having cool attacks.
the Geo Panel system does offer the puzzle aspect to the game though.
the canon ending is the "Good ending", where Lamington brings Flonne back as a fallen angel and Laharl stays like normal.
some games take after the normal ending (laharl becomes a prinny) but it's known to be non canon, such as the Prinny games.
>Laharl is finally recognized as the Overlord, Etna returns to commanding her Prinny squad along with Aramis, Flonne becomes a teacher
None of this is in or referenced in D2
prinny 1 and 2 also have Fallen Angel Flonne however, so they don't take after the normal ending aswell
>Disgaea D2 sucked because of the revamped defense system.
are you retarded? defense has never been so usefull in DD2. You got one shot because you are a smashing buttong idiot that didn't bothered to recognize monster's evilites.
I'm pretty sure the internal drama at Nis got a big chunk of the content removed because unfinished.
Would also explain why changing some sound and text files can crashes a game at all. loosy programing full of hardcoded data to cut content fast.
That's a funny way of spelling Asagi
Asagi is pretty boring, the idol schtick is the same as Axel's and she's flat because lolflat is an easy running joke in Disgaea.
Even Nis doesn't seem to care much, and prefered to rename and Archer for their idol chapter instead of using her at all.
>and she's flat because lolflat
I wish Nis would actually make games like that instead of all those wacky jokes. Lots of the shit they put in the interchapter comment are way more interesting than what the game makes you play.
>The EDF will never appear in another Disgaea game
>The Defenders of Earth will never be mentioned again
they had at least minor roles in nearly everything disgaea related, the gargantua was even in some crappy crossover game i think, but in the direct sequel to disgaea they just all of a sudden dont exist
I think Bio suits officially replaced EDF soldiers.
Still, the fact that there's absolutely nothing concerning humans happening in D2 (not even an honorable mention of Gordon) is stupid
The continuity is shot to hell, but it's probable that Gordon and Jennifer are already dead from old age. The LNs touch this by timeskipping 20, then 100 years.
>new EDF team
>it's fucking magical girls
>laharl gloats and try to send them to the kitchen thinking it's another case of sentai shit
>They are actually a mix of pretty cure and Nanoha and flatten him until Flonne put them under her wings and they begomevassals by proxy