NINTENDO INDIE GUY DAN ADELMAN HAS LEFT NINTENDO OF AMERICA

Troubling news anon, but do you have a source?

>>256326924
>indie

no one cares

LITERALLY WHO

>>256326924
They do it because they are in trouble, every shit indie on their platform is a shit indie too much. Now I am not saying Nintendo is right on this one, or that is it is shit but still they want to preserve as much quality as they can to bring their system to success.
Doesn't always work out.

>>256326992

Yep, here's two different ones.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/04/nintendo-of-americas-indie-boss-leaves-the-company?abthid=53df95892470baad65000004

http://mynintendonews.com/

>>256326924
So, what did he help make when he was with Nintendo that should make me care about him leaving?

>>256327034

>Literally the only games released since MK8 on the Wii U were indie games
>Literally the only good games released on the 3DS since Bravely Default were indie games
>"no one cares"

>>256327264
>playing consoles
>playing consoles made for children

>>256327259
YOU DONT FUCKING GET IT FUCKING NINTENTODDLER. GO AHEAD AND DEFEND THIS SHIT. I FOR ONE AM GOING TO BOYCOTT THEM. FUCK THIS SHIT.

>>256327259

He was responsible for bringing Shovel Knight, Guacamelee! and other indie games to Nintendo platforms. He tried to bring more indie games to fill the gaps between Nintendo releases since 3rd Party is kill, but he was constantly shut down by corporate suits.

>>256326924
NO ONE CARES

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There's already 2 other threads, use the fucking catalog.

>>256327084
He's the guy that made Nintendo platforms more accessable to indie developers.
So this is potentially bad news for people who were planning to release a game on Nintendo systems.

>>256327264

ALBW was great

>>256327340
What do you mean defend? I didn't know what he did to warrant this being a major impact.

>>256327395
Thank you.That is a shame.

>>256327519

ALBW was before Bravely Default.

>>256327395

SK was going to be on Nintendo regardless. At most he helped them get a dev kit.

>>256327340
Stop reposting this thread OP.

Why's Mario tipping?

>>256327395
You know it wasn't just one guy helping indie developers get their games on Nintendo platforms yeah?

>Expanding on the reasons behind his leaving, Adelman told Kotaku, "I had been strongly encouraged to stay off of Twitter - or at least say only things that were clearly safe - so after the region locking comment they just said I needed to stop completely. When people started complaining that I wasn't active on Twitter anymore, it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name. I thought that was about the worst idea I'd ever heard, so I left it as is and let the silence speak for itself."

>a PR person could post in my name

Oh. Wow. So literally talking about Region Lock can get you a horrible position in the company.

>>256327729

He's showing respect to a fallen soldier.

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>Guy talks shit about his own company while he's supposed to be doing indie PR
>Nintendo fires him for doing the opposite of his job
>Everyone says Nintendo is the bad guy

The fuck?

>>256327340
>he asks what the impact of this is and how it's important, as he is uninformed
>N-N-NINTENTODDLER!
Go ahead and boycott Nintendo. You obviously never touched anything they made in the past years

>>256327813

>guy tries to help the company through methods the company is too retarded to acknowledge
>guy decides to leave
>the company doesn't care
>money still going down the drain

That was the moment to listen to new people, but Nintendo failed at that. At this point, it'll be deserved if they end up getting out of the console race.

>who is known for his work with independent developers at Nintendo of America

Please elaborate.

>>256327974
>>guy tries to help the company through methods the company is too retarded to acknowledge

The fuck are you talking about?

>Microsoft employee criticizes consumers on twitter
>gets fired
>/v/ has a good laugh
>Nintendo employee criticizes a companies policies
>gets told not to
>he quits
>/v/ acts like their waifu was just shot in the face

>>256327519

ALBW sucked ass

>>256327984

Read the fucking thread. He was the middle-man between indie developers and Nintendo. He was the one trying to bring indie games to Nintendo systems. He was shut down when he tried to bring Binding of Isaac to the 3DS because Nintendo said the religious content was bad. He was shut down when he tried to bring Super Meat Boy, he was shut down when he tried to bring FEZ to the system, he was shut down when trying to bring MANY other games and he made a statement saying Region Locking was bad for the company.

>>256327984

fancy way of saying he gave out devkits

>>256328223
>he was shut down when he tried to bring FEZ to the system

No, Fish didn't want it on Nintendo systems in the first place.

>>256327984
He's an inbetweener.
A negotiator.
He works out deals and shit.

>>256327974
>im a retard
He had been there for 9 years already. He hasnt done much for nintendo aside from a few indie games that would be there anyways.

He worked for nintendo, helped them get set up a little bit on the indie dev scene and then brought up how he disagreed with how they did things.

He has no clue how big business works, all he knew is that he wanted all the indie games on wii u.

Thats not a good philosophy because youll end up filled with shovelware which is the worst for digital distribution.

He also doesnt like region lock so whatever. His opinion was probably shit anyways.

>Dan Adelman was the one and only person at Nintendo that dealt with indie developers
>His departure means that he will not replaced and there will never be an indie game on Nintendo systems again

This is what NeoFAGGOTS believe.

>>256328089

Nintendo has a drought of games at the moment. Between Nintendo releases, there's a gap full of NOTHING for gamers. This month, on the US, there's literally nothing being released for the Wii U. After Bayonetta 2, it'll be another two months of nothing until Smash Bros U.

The guy tried to bring the "new concept" (at least to Nintendo) of indie games, you know, cheap and made by small studios, to Nintendo systems, but was shut down by corporate suits.

He brought Trine 2, Guacamelee, Shovel Knight and many other games to the Wii U / 3DS. I can't even imagine how bad the Wii U library would be without those three titles, to be honest.

>>256328098
You just explained it yourself.
He acknowledged a shortcoming, letting people know Nintendo has heard their complaints, and was treated like an ass for it.

The other guy was treating customers poorly.

Why do Nintendrones rehash and spam the board with the same threads? Same shit with Smash or even if there are stickies.

>>256328476
>Besides games, there is NOTHING for gamers!

>>256328307

Fish didn't want it on the PS3 or PC as well and look where it ended up.

>>256328457

Because Nintendo wouldn't listen to him. Indie games for the Wii were literally an impossible concept for the company. Wii U and 3DS actually saw some indie games.

>>256328223
>he made a statement saying Region Locking was bad for the company
No he didn't, when a fan said they hated region locking on twitter he basically said "me too".

ITT: faggots have no idea how business actually works

>>256328476
yep i personally bought a wii u to play trine 2, a game that isn't already on on every fucking system in the world

>>256328476

So they'll find someone who can do the job AND not be a cunt on twitter. What a shame

>There are people actually defending Nintendo for this

Truly, /v/ is NintendoGAF.

>>256328638
>>256328756

God, the droning is unbelievable in this thread.

>>256328904
>Trine 2 and Guacamelee are system sellers, guys! Honest!

>>256326924
>Nintendo
>financial trouble

He did a fantastic job at getting indie games that people are actually interested in such as No Mans Sky on the Wii U didn't he?

>>256329000
>>256328638

Don't be dense. I'm not saying indie games are system sellers. Like I said, they HELP the catalog and fill the gaps between AAA releases. Don't tell me you're ok with having absolutely nothing to play between Nintendo releases.

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He already knew he wasnt a good PR man.

He decided to not have a public appearance for a long time simply because he cant think before he types.

Nintendo got fed up with their employee not representing them properly and there was a mutual decision that he was no longer the best person for nintendos needs and has moved on to other projects.

tl;dr ITS FUCKING NOTHING

>>256329000
They're games, this is the guy who single handedly brought these games to the console and also suffered from Nintendo being ass backwards and shutting down possible games like Fez, Super Meat Boy and Binding of Isaac. I know Nintendo likes to believe they shit rainbows, but their rehashes are not enough to sustain a console.

>>256327506
Oh, so it's fucking nothing.

>>256329185
>this is the guy who single handedly brought these games to the console

refer to >>256328468

>>256329184
TL;DR

Nintendo chased a way a good employee because they're cancerous as fuck

>>256329109

Did you read the news? He tried to bring more games, but he was constantly denied by the ones above him.

>>256329184

>having integrity = "can't think before he types"

>>256329183
What amazing indie games have filled the gaps between the AAA releases?

-Scram Kitty
-....
-....

Am I supposed to know or care about this guy?

So it's nothing regarding a nobody, okay.

>>256328132

It was great

>>256326924
LITERALLY WHO?

>>256329319
Why would they stop him from doing his job?

You really think the "ones above him" would say no to No Mans Sky and yes to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sGQQ6DziDg ?

This is what Nintendo does to indie developers.

>There were people whose job it was to look up addresses in Google maps to see if the business address was a home or an office building. And if it looked a little residential, they'd ask for photos. There would be e-mail threads with literally a few dozen back and forth exchanges about whether the couch in someone's office was really used for business purposes or did someone really live there? That policy, thankfully, is gone.

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Chie is a fucking slut. Just imagine the amount of sausage she had between those lips. She was probably the town bike before you came around and she was instantly lusting after your salami next.

Her phonenumber is probably all over public toilets with the annotation that she's willing to do anything for a beefbowl.

And remember those 3 guys from her S rank? As soon as you enter the train to go back home those guys probably rape her and NTR the shit out of her, turning her into a sexslave so they don't have to pay for the meat to take turns on her

>>256329290
lolno

A small time indie dude whos job was nothing more than looking the web over for cool indies to bring to nintendo is not hard.

The fact he barely did that AND managed to fuck up PR is hilarious.

>/v/ loves to defend the "little guy"

>>256328468
>>256329286

Oh, it definitely means someone else will take his job. And be a complete Yes Man to the company and never bring decent indie games or at least a good amount of them. It'll be someone that will say on Twitter every 6 months when a shitty japanese indie game comes over "Hey guys! This is another amazing product only us at Nintendo could bring over! Please understand we need you to buy it even though it's shit!"

>>256329438
Nope, nobody does. It's just NeoGAF making a huge deal out of nothing again because it's Nintendo.

Freedom of speech doesn't exist at Nintendo, apparently.

>>256329506

>No Man's Sky
>not aiming at children

>Flavoured Cats
>aiming at children

Guess which one the old farts at Nintendo would prefer?

>>256329536
Indie devs no longer require an office.

>>256329470

It was shit

>>256326924
>the 3DS couldn't surpass the original DS yet they still kill new ideas...

Oh no, it can't sell as well as best selling gaming hardware of all time!

>>256329286
They'll replace him with some shit employee who does nothing but sucks Nintendo's dick and he won't be able to bring over anything of note.

Enjoy your no games, Nintendo fan.

>>256329506
Lets be clear here, you're fucking retarded if you think the Shit U can run No Man's Sky.

>>256329631
If that were true then nobody are Treehouse including Trinnen would be allowed to have their own Twitter accounts.

>>256329738

Did you hate LttP too? Because ALBW is just a better LttP.

>>256329676
Video games are for children.

>>256329597
I wonder why a bunch of people need to come over to /v/ to make threads about it. I've never noticed anyone here care about this guy before.

>>256329560
>A small time indie dude whos job was nothing more than looking the web over for cool indies to bring to nintendo is not hard.

Man, you're going to be so disappointed when the few Indie games Nintendo was getting dry the fuck up now that this guy is gone. They're still lightyears behind Sony and Microsoft on this front as it is, and they'll replace Dan with some yes man.

>>256329835
>would be allowed to have their own Twitter accounts.

Did you read the article? It probably isn't even them posting.

>>256329560

Stop spinning the story. The guy "barely did that" because no one would fucking let him bring more games. He also "managed to fuck up PR" because he was pro-consumer.

What a shitty employee, right, Mr. Monopoly?

>>256329631
Freedom of speech isn't a thing faggot. You always earn your shit.

I guess 2 threads weren't enough. Eagerly awaiting for the 4th.

So much for Nintendogaf. Sure this place is clearly biased, no hate threads against nintendo here, nuh uh.

I despise region locking with all myself but this is blowing out of proportions. At this point it's just an easy way to stir up shit.

>>256329842

>better

in what way? It had a worse story with easy to spot 'twists', bland characters, a rehashed Dark World (LORULE, SO FAHNNY) and a cliched ending

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>>256326924
So next Nintendo is going to fire Iwata, Miyamoto is going to either end up into forced retirement or dead, and then they'll slowly just sink into the bog of failed companies.

>>256329992
>Did you read the article? It probably isn't even them posting.

You cannot be this retarded.

>>256329995
>pro-consumer
>indieshit

lol

>>256329781
Yeah! You need some sort of Super Charged PC.

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>guy was acting like an unprofessional asshole, shit talking Nintendo whilst working for them
>everyone is surprised when he gets fired
Gee, Sonyponies sure are mad today

I love how people are saying this guy fucked over PR or screwed Nintendo over when half this thread hasn't even heard of him until now. I also like how Nintendo hasn't been trying to get indie titles so it's this guy's fault he's not winning the uphill battle. He's worked at Nintendo for nine years and got a few titles out. While it's quicker and easier to blame him, is there a possibility that Nintendo's refusal against indies in the past is what made it harder to get more indie games in the first place? It's baffling that they'll put complete bullshit on their systems but indies that make decent sales on every other system is apparently not good enough for a company struggling to fill its library.

>>256327813
But he didn't get fired?
From the interview, he was one the who quit and left on good terms. He still helping Nintendo try to find an replacement for his job.

>>256330135
Well, you need something more powerful than the PS3, at least.

>>256330080

More non linear. Wall melding mechanic was implemented well. The depth (literal, not metaphorical) the dungeons had looked fantastic.

Honestly I was really impressed with Nintendo trying to move back towards LoZ 1's non linearity in any amount.

>>256330154
They finished their movie so they're now doing their shitposting spree until the next movie comes out on their PS "Xbox One" 4.

>>256328223
>He was shut down when he tried to bring Super Meat Boy, he was shut down when he tried to bring FEZ to the system,

Source on these?

>>256329378

shovel knight

>>256329631
Freedom of speech doesn't work the way you think it does. All it means is the government can't shut you down for speaking out against them. That's it. That's all "freedom of speech" does for anyone. Your boss can still tell you that you can't talk about cake on Twitter if he wants, and if you do, boom, roasted.

>>256330154
why are you so anti-consumer? all he did was empathize with a customer, that's not shit talking that's being nice

>>256330205
Don't bother talking sense into Neofaggots. They like to rewrite stories in their own minds.

>>256330126
>When people started complaining that I wasn't active on Twitter anymore, it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name

Probably not actually the real people posting. You see, Nintendo is afraid of social media.

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It's stupid that he left because of some innocent comment, but it's not like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24CH9AynPio
are all going to disappear now that he left

>>256329995
He barely did his job because he doesnt fucking now how to find good indie games for nintendos console.

>hurr just get what dah ps4 has dats all we need
No. Fucking hell no.

Also
>region lock
>pro-consumer
You dont know consumers very well.

>>256328476
I don't buy consoles to play indie games.

Why are people surprised when you talk shit about a company you work for you get fired. Microsoft does it this as well. The only company who hasn't done this yet is Sony and the only real PR they have is Yoshida firing him would probably cause a backlash. Since almost everyone likes him.

>>256330154
The droning in this post is unbelievable.

Truly /v/ is NintendoGAF.

Because sympathizing with the consumer and saying Region Locking is bad is grounds for getting fired.

>>256330131

No one was forcing you to buy "indie shit". It was literally just more options for the consumer. When he said Region Lock was bad in a Twitter reply to a Nintendo fan who approached him, he was being pro-consumer.

>LOLOLOL ENJOY UR NO INDIES NINTENYEAROLDS

Obvious Sony pony thread. Only they think having indies on consoles means shit when you can play 99.99% of indie games worth a shit on a toaster PC.

>>256330357
I guess it's just Nintendo PR people tweeting about their favorite beer, packing for conventions and sports on Trinnens Twitter account then. It's so obviously not him.

>>256330342
No, he shit talked Nintendo. He deserves what he got. Nintendo are the only ones who care 100% about the costumers. Sure, the region locking is not for everyone but in the end they did it 100 FUCKING PERCENT for the customers, even if Nintendo themselves lose money with it.

>>256330495
Region locking is a positive thing, but you baby sonyponies wouldn't realize that as you are to blind to see the truth.

>>256330470
I'm convinced that everyone who is using the term "talk shit" is a samefag, because it's obvious to anyone with reading comprehension that he wasn't talking shit

>>256330470
>Why are people surprised when you talk shit about a company you work for you get fired

HE FUCKING SAID REGION LOCKING IS BAD. WHICH IT IS

Jesus, why are Nintendo fans DEFENDING Nintendo for this shit?

>>256330495
Only he didn't get fired.

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>fire a guy who handles PR between indies and Nintendo
>HURR DURR NINTENDO IS KILLING NEW IDEAS

The guy they fired isn't an indie dev, or anything dev related. He's just a PR guy.

If a PR guy does or says anything remotely negative in regards to the company he's contracted to PR for, he's fired. It's that easy.

And believe it or not, PR guys are really fucking easy to replace.

>Retards still think region lock was done to "fuck over consumers"

It was done to prevent reverse importing because of Japan's higher game prices.

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>>256330495

>Shit I don't have anything productive to say
>LE DRONE MAY MAY NINTENDOGAF

>>256330257
Like my toaster. Which will run the pirated copy of NMS far away better than a shitty PS4.

>>256330278

Dungeons looked good, but were way too short, too easy, and had shitty design

Tower of Hera nearly made me drop the game

>>256330537
>, packing for conventions and sports on Trinnens Twitter account then. It's so obviously not him.

Yup, I'm glad you understand.

>>256330625
>HE FUCKING SAID REGION LOCKING IS BAD. WHICH IT IS

Which has nothing to do with why he decided to do his own him.

>>256330310

Just read the creator of Binding of Isaac interviews.

>indie devs
Who cares?
>financial trouble
Yes, 10b in the bank and losing 1% of that is financial trouble.

>>256327974
>methods the company is too retarded to acknowledge
Just because something seems good from the perspective of the customer doesn't mean that it has no negative side, or that the company is "too stupid" to acknowledge it.
There's a reason behind every "bad" decision every company makes.

>>256330710
Go fuck yourself.

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Tweets that got him into trouble.

>>256330728

>Way too easy
>WOOOW SHITTY DESIGN

Tower of Hera was designed just fine. Sounds like you couldn't grasp the shape. Did you have issues with the Ice Temple too?

I haven't read this thread but I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's a lot of nintendo shilling in it.

>>256330638
He essentially did get fired. Haven't you ever heard of an employer driving you out so you quit instead of them just flat out firing you? It's the same thing here, they took his twitter privileges away and then suggested some random dude comment on it in his place to placate his fans. They deliberately drove him out so he quit instead of Nintendo flat out firing him for this so they look better.

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>>256330440
FUCCKING THIS

>>256330765
Nice source.

>>256330535
And yet they're the ones getting Gone Homo.
It's kinda obvious Nintendo wants indies with some quality and effort put into them, not whatever shit that's also on Steam.

>>256330437

"Also
>region lock
>pro-consumer
You dont know consumers very well."

The guy said "me too" when a Nintendo fan said to him "I hate Region Lock". He was pro-consumer.

>>256330891
What a fucking monster. He literally said that Nintendo was literally shit, no wonder he got censored.

>Adelman confirmed that he was leaving Nintendo to go independent

HOLY SHIT THE INDIE PR GUY IS GOING INDIE

STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES

He was never fire you fuckwits.

>>256330935
Yup. Half of this thread is the Nintendo Defense Force damage controlling this shit.

>>256330535

What part of "indies are good for filling the gaps between AAA titles" don't you understand?

>>256331056

>Thread is sonyggers false flagging

>>256330904

>boss key right in front of the boss door
>good design

>>256330891
>Said a comment in September 2013
>Neofaggots believe these comments led him to be fired in August 2014

Why are people so stupid?

>Adelman: I know there are going to be a bunch of forum comments and editorials saying, "OMG Nintendo is doomed!" but the truth is that Nintendo's indie program is in good hands. It was never really just me. There is a large group of people working on helping developers through the process and they're going to continue doing that. My understanding is that they are planning on back-filling my role. Before leaving, I put together a list of people I thought would be good candidates for the job and would be happy to provide any input they want. Having the right person in that role will be critical for the long-term health of the business, and I'm sure they're going to get someone great.

Everyone ignore this, Nintendo is doomed.

>>256330989
Region lock helps consumers.

Sorry bud but I'm not about to argue for or against it. He said something contradictory to the company and he decided to stay quiet publicly after it so he wouldnt fuck up again.

Now he decided to leave of his own accord and its the worst thing nintendo has ever done.

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>>256331094

That would make sense on PS4 if it had AAA titles

>>256331121

How often did that

>>256329770
Ps2 sold more

>>256330891
Worse than Hitler.

THE GREAT AND HONORABLE NINTENDO SHOULD NOT BE SHAMED LIKE THIS

>>256330728
>the second dungeon was too easy wahhh
Just stop.

>>256330696

... And that totally isn't fucking over consumers in Japan, primarily, USA and Europe, right?

>>256331121

I thought it was neat that the boss key in Ice Temple was possible to get immediately.

>>256331176
He didn't get fired, he got censored for a year after posting that and was replaced by a PR guy, then he left

>>256331197
Dan didn't say this. He was fired therefore he didn't get to choose anyone. Nintendo's indie scene is fucked.

>>256330891
What games are released in the US and not japan?

>>256331176
Except read up on the issue, he said himself that that is what caused him to stop working there.

>>256330581
>Region locking is for the costumers
I really hope this is sarcasm.

>>256331353
Try telling our NeoFriends among us that.

>>256330891

What a douchebag. Why would he shit talk the company he's working for? Does he have no work ethics?

>>256331325

see >>256331121

>>256331348

That was pretty cool, but the rest of the dungeon was pretty shit

>let's make it so you have to traverse narrow block paths with ice physics
>it's hard so it's good game design!!

worse than Dark Souls fans

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>>256327729

>>256331340

>USA
>Fucked by region lock

Not in the fucking slightest

There's like 1-2 games on 3DS worth owning that never came to US from Japan.

Unless you're a DQ fan in which case you're already well versed in the art of being shat on

Why the fuck would you want to work at Nintendo anyways? If I worked in the industry I would never do it, it'd be like I went back in a time machine 50 years with all of Nintendo's assbackwards anti-consumer anti-developer policies.

Nintendo doesn't need new ideas, it needs to make use of its existing IP:s and chug out some decent games for the crowds.

>>256331484
Well he didn't get fired, but it was still a massive overreaction on Nintendo's part to censor him for a year for something as insignificant as that

>>256331049

He was shut down. He wanted to bridge the gap between indies and Nintendo. Nintendo basically forced him to leave, so he went to the other side.

>In the same way that a core dev studio needs a programmer, designer, artist, and sound person, I think there's also a need for a business person

Adelman confirmed for maximum jew.

>>256331486

The narrow paths (snowflake blocks) weren't slippery.

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>heh, who needs third party anyway?
>huh, who needs sales anyway?
>uh, who needs indies anyway..?
>;_;

>>256331514
People are just that eager to play Attack on Titan and Precure games.
DQ is just Square being afraid of it doing better than Final Fantasy (which it definitely would)

>>256331213

>region lock helps consumers

Whats with the sudden Nintendogs idiots shiiting up /v/?

>>256331646

>PS4 getting Gone Home
>GREATNESS AWAITS

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So the man single handedly got rid of all quality control?

>>256327974
That depends. Is it licensing, or was it improvements of their SDK?

>>256327264
Indies are now a cancer on console and handheld. Now Sony can make even less games than usual, they just give us 50 shitty indies for every one game they don't make.

>>256329714
That change was prompted by him and he's gone, though.

>>256331514
Region locking only really affects DQ fans which is square this fault as well. Even fucking Sega is bringing over Project Mirai.

Oh yeah it also fucks over europoors.

>Nintendo has been really supportive of this move. I think everyone there has known for a while that my passion has always really been about helping the indie community develop and thrive, so even though everyone was really surprised when I gave my 2-week notice, they all understood and wished me the best. I couldn't have asked for a better sendoff.

Once again /v/ doesnt know ANYTHING about the threads material

HE QUIT FOR FUCKS SAKE

>>256331701

Precure games maybe.

AoT game is BAD, just play the pretty okay browser game.

>indie games
And nothing of value was lost.

>>256330581
screencapped.

How's it feel beeing the retard?

>>256327729

pretty sure it's an animation for losing in one of the Party games

>>256331808
after getting censored for a year

>>256331808
>"Iwata personally fired him." --- NeoGaf

>>256331701
>Square is just afraid one of their franchises will do better than another one of their franchises

I bet that is the reason.

>>256327506
>Less indies on the 3DS

How is that a bad thing? Ever since the Vita got a dedicated indie section, all Sony of Burgerland does is get more and more indie ports instead of trying to get 3rd party localisations.

>>256331808
Nintendo clearly pushed him out, though. Writing is on the wall. Sure they didn't shit in his cornflakes on the way out, but Nintendo's assbackwards policies are what forced a good employee out.

>>256331407
Not many as far as I know. They tend to release late of course. I always did wonder why NA and EU have zero trouble releasing games in Japan if there is even a tiny bit of interest when we have to beg the nips to let us play there games.

>>256331240
PS2 numbers are extremely sketchy at best. While it did sold a shit ton, for many, many years Sony has combined the sales of the PS2 and PS3 together making it quite hard to have an actual solid number. They also added PS4 to the recently.

At least Nintendo has something remotely detailed like this:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e1406.pdf

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>white english person leaves nintendo

and literally nothing of value was lost. nintendo of america doesn't make fucking video games. the japs who don't even speak our language do.

although i do agree nintendo has been backwards as fuck since yamauchi died and since wii sports/wii fit sales has absolutely ruined nintendo and showed them that games they put 0 effort in can sell 100 million copies if they are super duper casual (ie quality of life coming out)

>>256326924
Good. He was probably a Sonygger in disguise who infiltrated Nintendo to destroy it from within.

>>256331727

Hey don't talk smack. If it wasn't for him, we wouldn't have never gotten such classics as The Letter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u39AmLJRw6Y

>>256331846
Enjoy all those games in between your Nintendo rehashes.


Like uh.....


Hmm....


That one...

No.

Right, no games at all.

>>256331230

What the fuck does Playstation have to do with anything?

Are you autistic?

>>256327178
>Now I am not saying Nintendo is right on this one
That's exactly what you are implying though. You are discrediting the guy and sucking Nintendo's lazy lepper dick as usual.

Nothing new, Nintendrones gonna drone and drink Iwata's semen.

>>256329183
Thats wrong. For them to fill the gap, you need the games to be good, and for the retailer system(eshop in this case) to do massive advertisement.

>>256331514
>Unless you're a DQ fan in which case you're already well versed in the art of being shat on

To be Reggie is to experience suffering.

>>256331808

>Hey, you'll be censored for an year and if you want to talk to fans on Twitter, we'll have to put a PR guy to talk in your place, ok?
>Oh, by the way, all these projects you wanna bring over? They're not coming. Why? Because Nintendo. Please understand we don't like money.

What a great place to work! I don't know why he wanted to leave...

>>256332054
Name an indie game.
Trick question, you can't, none of them are games.

>>256331727
He fought to make Nintendo's console actually attractive to Indie developers. He essentially did damage control with Nintendo after they fucked everything up with Indies on the Wii.

Nintendo needs these indie devs, considering they do not get any third party titles. If they lose Indie support then on the Wii U there will be literally NOTHING in between Nintendo's own releases. If we're getting to this point you have to question why Nintendo is making home consoles at all.

Still waiting for someone to show what good indie games he brought to Nintendo systems.

Shovel Knight would have made it regardless of his efforts as WayForward people have been close to Nintendo for many years.

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>gets his ass fired because of bad PR
>first thing he does afterwards is make more bad PR, complete with sarcastic tweet and 'innocent victim' interview

Have fun never getting hired by a video game company ever again.

>>256332054
Yeah, I'm really missing out on great titles coming out in this time on other consoles.
Oh wait.

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>>256332054
>Super Mario Sunshine
>rehash
>>256328857

and Uncharted 2 is a rehash

I vaguely recall this guy from last year and honestly I had no clue who he was until now.

Actually, I still don't know who he is. What games did he even work on?

>>256331936
You say that now, but where will you be with no
cubit the robot
1001 spikes
colors! 3D
Grinsia
Bike Rider DX
Jett Rocket II: The Wrath of Taikai
Coaster Creator 3D
Plain Video Poker

>>256332249
>Nintendo needs these indie devs

Yes we need more amazing experiences like The Letter and Mr Sunshine Cat or whatever the fuck it was called.

>>256331980

>bought Game & Wario
>think you're allowed to talk about what's good and what's not

L oving
E very
L augh

>>256332249
But indies are 95% shit with the occasional good one unless you want to buy minigames all the time instead of actual games.

>>256331967
this is the same mentality that victimized feminists say when they claim to be "literally raped" by something that didn't even involve physical contact. Gorilla Hernandez has been raped 7 times.

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>>256327806
>so after the region locking comment they just said I needed to stop completely. When people started complaining that I wasn't active on Twitter anymore, it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name.

>B-BUT MUH NINTENDO ARE THE GOOD GUYS!

Disgusting, slit eyed jews. Even worse than Sony.

>>256332276

he's indie now

he hired himself to do his own PR

>>256332276

You never know, EA or Bioware might hire him. He seems like their kind of people.

>>256332248
Shovel Knight, Guacamelee, Mighty Switch Force the list goes on.

Enjoy not getting those games anymore.

>>256332278
They're games. If the Wii U is literally waiting months in between single releases and is only getting that game for that month then why the FUCK is Nintendo still making home consoles? At this point Nintendo consoles are a prison for Nintendo games.

>>256332383
Oh no, no 1001 Spikes? Whatever shall I do? Guess I'll go back to playing Dream Team while I wait for Smash and ORAS.

>>256332027

>expects quality of a game that literally costs a single dollar

No, you're the reaper, John.

>>256328457
>He also doesnt like region lock so whatever. His opinion was probably shit anyways.
That's it, I'm out.
I can handle most things but Nintendogaf has degraded to the point where disliking a severe anticonsumer policy is now a bad thing. Fuck you guys.

>>256332538
>ex-Wayforward devs, very close to Nintendo
>Meme shit
>Wayforward, very close to Nintendo

>>256332276
Thankfully other video game companies aren't as cancerous as Nintendo.

>>256332256

The guy was around the company for 9 years. He probably was the one who strengthened WayForward and Nintendo's ties.

>>256326924
who ? and what games did the guy make?

>>256332445

Game & Wario has it's moments.

>>256332538
>Wayforward
>never coming back to Nintendo
Pfffft.
I've already played Metroid and Castlevania, what would I lose not playing Mextroid?

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>there are people on /v/ right now defending this shit

That't not even Neogaf-tier droning, this is some 2011 bioware forum shit.

>>256332383
Oh no, all those great games I could have been playing instead of weebshit like Fire Emblem, Atlus RPGs and Rune Factory.

>>256332276
Sup!
Cliffy B here. I'm going to hire that guy and pay him double what Nintendo did.

>>256332694
And what? Just because he's gone, Wayforward will never release a game on Nintendo platforms again?

You guys are so fucking stupid.
>hurr without him indies would NEVER EVER be on nintendo

"Hey, I'd love to take credit for every successful indie game on our system, but that would be really unfair to the developers. Yacht Club Games were the ones putting in 100-hour work weeks for months on Shovel Knight. For me to jump in and give myself credit for their success would be totally disingenuous. I gave some small suggestions here and there about their release timing, I helped them out by plugging them into a few marketing initiatives"

He does nothing but marketing.
>/v/ actually defending a marketer

The ONLY thing he did right was open nintendos system up a little more. Make it easier to deploy indie games on.

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>>256332538

>WF not making another eShop game because someone got fired

are you for real

>>256332829
>Wayforward will never release a game on Nintendo platforms again?

Well, they fucked over someone who was probably a good friend of theirs. So possibly.

QUICK SEND NINTENDO A CARD!

>>256332508
Asian here, Sony region lock forces us to play $75 for a $40 game on PSN. Nintendo allows us to pay $45 for a $40 game on the eShop.

Why do you think the Vita struggles, even here? Also, Sony of Asia are run by braindead retards that don't know which Asian country speaks which language.

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>>256332637
Actually, other video game companies fire people over completely harmless jokes. Pic related.

>>256330535

I don't buy indies on home consoles but I do buy some on handhelds, some of them are good timesinks to play on the go.

Nintendo must've been doing something wrong because the Wii U gets more indie games than the 3ds. This is not how it should work.

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>there are people defending and downplaying this

holy fucking shit

>>256332923
And by no longer releasing games on Nintendo platforms they will fuck over most of their "fanbase" that are mostly on said platforms.

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>Nintendo chases away third party games
>With this, Nintendo chases away indie developers

"We only need Nintendo games on our platform. There's nothing wrong with waiting months on end to get a new game for our home console that just ends up being a shitty rehash anyways".

Good on ya, Nintendo.

I'm a PC+Nintendo friend, and I hate Nintendo's online policies.
The eshop is a fucking joke, and they have no idea what they're doing.

The fact that the binding of isaac was rejected pretty much sums up why I can't stand Nintendo's eshop policies. Like the game or not, denying it because it could be "offensive" is backwards, childish, and fucking stupid.

>all /v/ has to bash nintendo is the indie guy moving onto bigger projects

Yeah yeah nintendoomed whatever.
Too bad he already lined up a bunch of stuff for them before he left.

>>256333024
That's different. That was actually offensive to Sony and Vita owners.

>>256326924
>They're in financial trouble right now
Nope. They'll be alright

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Why even care?

Wii U is dead in the water anyway and the 3DS a Pokemon/MonHun machine.

>>256333082
I'm sure Shovel knight sold like shit on Wii U and 3DS and the Steam sales trumped it easily. Way Forward does not need Nintendo. To be honest Nintendo should be lucky they get indie games at all, and with this guy gone they probably won't.

>>256333074
Defending what? He's an indie PR guy who left. He wasn't fired or anything.

Nintendo is still alive? Sorry I'm part of the master race so I don't really read news regarding toys.

>>256333192
>being offensive to Sony and Vita owners
>a bad thing

Can you stop with the funny logic already?

>>256333330
you're a big guy

>>256333074
I still don't know what is actually going on since nobody is posting any information.
WTF was this guys actual job.
And what did he do over the years?

>>256328457
You are so ignorant I want to punch you. Holy shit you embody whats wrong with most nintendo fans

>>256333238
>Wii U is dead in the water anyway

Sure sure. We can all enjoy the fine quality games on the Pay4Playstation instead right?

>>256333248
>I'm sure Shovel knight sold like shit on Wii U

Are you sure about that?

>Wozniak: Across all platforms it's exceeding expectations.

http://www.gonintendo.com/s/234432-shovel-knight-exceeding-sales-expectations-shovel-knight-2-under-consideration

>b-b-b-b-b-but he's just saying that!!!! Wii U sales are shit!!!!!

>>256332054
why bother posting

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>>256332637
you should kill yourself sonygger

>>256333238
Agreed. He's jumping ship while theres lifeboats still left.

>Nintendo always have an huge indie hyperlink on Wii U eshop page every fucking week
>Nintendo features indie games several times on their Treehouse stream even less hyped ones like "Affordable Space Adventures"
>Nintendo features Shovel Knight on their stream and does a challenge with it even though it's not one of their games
>Whenever Nintendo shows a reel of eshop games indie games are heavily feature while Nintendo games are feature very briefly
>Nintendo uploads all the indie game trailers on their own youtube page

B-b-b-b-b-but Nintendo hates dah indie and without Adelman, nintendo will never have them again.

>>256333523
>Wozniak: Across all platforms it's exceeding expectations.

Yup, and the Wii U's expectations were low as shit.

Mark my words, the Steam version at LEAST quadrupled Wii U sales of the game. You see, people outside of Nintendo actually appreciate good Indie titles. Threads like this proves that Nintendo fans do not.

>wahh region lock

Shut up /v/ If you wanted to play jap games youd get a jap console.

Ever wonder why you HAVE to import all you shit weeb games for your ps3/4/vita?
Region lock hurts localization.

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>>256333516
>B-BUT SONY!
Every time.

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>>256333648

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>>256333308
>I'm part of the master race

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>>256328546
>nintendrones fault
that's Ruggarell and Tumblr's job

>>256331975

Sony itself said around 155 mil consoles were shipped. In fact PS2 consoles are still being manufactured in third world countries, shit's crazy. That's why the last report still included PS2 numbers.

>>256333724
Not even the same guy, but a claim without proof is worth nothing

>Indie PR
Oh, I almost cared

>>256333724
>Wii U's expectations were low as shit.

Really? I'd love to read where they said that. I'll wait.

>>256333724
>50 million users
>5 million users

No way.
Youre some kind of genius to realize that steam gets more sales than EVERY OTHER PLATFORM

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>>256333516
Nigga I own a Wii U myself and it's pretty much dead.

But yeah
>b-but muh SONYGGER ;_;

>>256328873

>>256327084
>>256327396
>>256327413
>>256327941
>>256327984
>>256328637
>>256327034
>defending
beight

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>>256333724

>the Steam version at LEAST quadrupled Wii U sales of the game

>>256333756

Because it usually is.

>>256333724
>and the Wii U's expectations were low as shit.

Why would that be when Wii U software sales are usually decent?

>>256333902
It doesn't need to be said, it's obvious that it was.

Nintendo fans only buy Nintendo games, this is a stone cold fact at this point. The expectations for the Wii U version of the game were obviously miniscule.

>Adelman: I know there are going to be a bunch of forum comments and editorials saying, "OMG Nintendo is doomed!" but the truth is that Nintendo's indie program is in good hands. It was never really just me. There is a large group of people working on helping developers through the process and they're going to continue doing that. My understanding is that they are planning on back-filling my role. Before leaving, I put together a list of people I thought would be good candidates for the job and would be happy to provide any input they want.

>hates region lock
>wants more indies
>predicted the nintendoomed
He knows the internet, thats for sure.

>>256330440
no but apparently with nintendo you buy then to collect dust

>Vita is region free
>Vita ded

>3DS region locked
>3DS alive and kicking

check
and
mate

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WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY AND WHY THE SHITPOSTERS IN THE THREAD CLAIMING WE'RE DEFENDING PRETENTIOUS INDIE SHIT?

>Nintendo tells third party developers to fuck off
>Nintendo tells indie developers to fuck off with this news.

Nintendo is killing themselves, and to anyone with taste instead of being sad they're laughing their asses off.

>Wii u not selling
>Nintendo posts loss of 94million
>people jumping ship

Good fuck Nintendo. Tired of the Nintendo fanboys on here.

>>256330527
>No one was forcing you to buy "indie shit"

No, but it stains the fucking shop with fucking garbage. Christ it's almost impossible to not get eye cancer looking through steams shop.

>>256334084
Still waiting for that source.

Literally who?

>>256326924
>3DS couldn't surpass the original DS
And PS3 and 4 couldn't surpass PS2, the greatest console of all time.

>>256334084
>Nintendo fans only buy Nintendo games

If that were the case we would have a fuckton of great IPs. But Nintendofans are kinda autistic and buy only stuff with muh merio on the cover.

>>256334084
>this is a stone cold fact

Provide proof, then.

>Adelman say's in the interview "Don't panic internet, Nintendo isn't doomed"
>Everyone on the internet proceeds to say Nintendo is doomed.

>>256334238

I think you're mixing proper indie games with early access shit. They're different.

>>256333567
Holy shit that's disgusting.

>>256334084
Nah mate.

If that was true the popular games on miiverse would be mostly indie stuff.

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>>256334174
>Hitler hated jews
>Hitler ded

>America liked jews
>America alive and kicking

check
and
mate

>>256331116
>Blame people blindly defending Nintendo on Sony fans

>>256334304
>Activision didn’t expect much from Wii U sales of Black Ops 2, but they sure didn’t expect it to be that abysmal. Activision gave Wii U owners the best version of Blops 2 with Off TV features, and Nintendo fans didn’t support it. It’s easy for Nintendo fans to trash publishers for not giving them ports, but publishers have wisened up. They realize Nintendo fans are all talk. Nintendo fans are vocal with their mouths, but when it’s time to open their wallets, they’ll spend that $60 on New Super Mario Bros instead.

Hall’s source went on to voice his opinion that developers at D.I.C.E. remain unimpressed by the Wii U, echoing a sentiment similar to another report from D.I.C.E. that surfaced a few weeks ago.

>There’s just no enthusiasm for it. The only reason publishers are still going to bring games to Wii U is because they don’t want to damage their relationship with Nintendo.

>>256334281
The PS Vita can't even surpass the PSP. It's not even remotely close to PSP number unlike the 3DS.

>>256326924
>giving a fuck about indies
>on a nintendo console

literally nobody gives a shit about indies on nintendos consoles, I only buy that shit to play nintendo games, thats it.

>guy draws a paycheck from nintendo
>talks shit about them
>is surprised when he is told to not go on twitter

>>256334381
>proper indie games

"proper" AKA "the ones that I don't find shit"

Same shit.

>>256331213
Yeah, when I imported SMT Strange Journey for the DS (because it wasn't region locked) I was fucked over completely by how region free it was.

>>256334530
>>256334281
B-B-B-BUT SONY!

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>>256334458
>Nintendoomsayers are also racists

No surprise here.

With this news and the fact Hyrule Warriors will only have local co-op, I might sell my Wii U... It's a shame, but Nintendo is doing everything in their power to alienate the consumers.

>>256334486
You forgot the most important part

>Update: It turns out that this story by ‘Calvin Hall’ was fabricated.

Nintendo didn't do anything wrong. Stop insulting them, they are the savior of gaming. You are just a HATER. Fuck you.

>>256334486
The best version and still didn't put out with DLC that pretty much helped make that version a dead.

>>256334458
>Hitler hated jews

Nah, not really.

>america alive

Uh, sure.

>kicking

lol, is that because they can't roll themselves into standing position?

>>256328307
>needles about anything untoward I might say. And every once in a while, I’d give an answer that people didn’t like, and some people would freak out, so they tried to scale things back. First they had me do interviews with someone from PR or marketing. Later they just decided that I shouldn’t be in the press at all anymore.”
>Why is Nintendo so backwards? They're in financial trouble right now with the Wii U and the 3DS couldn't surpass the original DS yet they still kill new ideas...

Nintendo is too mainstream for Hipster Fish

>guy quits his job, voices his opinion on why he decided to leave his position
>currently still working with Nintendo to find a suitable replacement
>somehow this implies that the company and the guy are on bad terms

if nintendo hated the guy they wouldn't let him help find a replacement

if the guy hated nintendo he wouldn't be willing to help them find a replacement

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>>256330154
Sonytumblronies are still mad at Jihad Jon's comment on PS4. Now they are trying to find a bad news about Ninty and Microsoft so they can start shitting back again

truly a bunch of globally hated retards

>>256333727
The Vita gets a ton of localizations despite the region lock.

It's not all about import jap shit. Ask all those yuros how did they enjoy RF4 on their yuro 3ds.

Region lock is a cancer and needs to go.

>>256334659
>Nintendo is doing everything in their power to alienate the consumers

You must admit they are doing a great job with that. Not as great as Microsoft with E3 2013 but still pretty decent.

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>>256334638
>defending jews

>>256326924
Nintendo is ran by old obstinate men.

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>>256326924
>leaving a sinking ship.

>all this nintendoomed
>so many people didnt even read the interview
>hes still on great terms with nintendo and they will continue to help each other

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>>256334659
This shit doesn't make sense to me, the Dynasty Warriors of games has it, why the fuck would Nintendo remove it?

I'd suggest that yeah, you sell your Wii U. Thing is shit and Nintendo doesn't deserve anyone's business.

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>>256334893
>not realizing Zionists and NWO only hide behind Jewry to trick the unwashed masses

>>256332027
What a scintillating tale. Holy shit.

>>256335047

I know, it's like I'm back in the PS2 days. No online...

Just some no-name asshole trying to get famous by shitting on Nintendo. Is this really how low the "NINTENDOOOOOOM!" idiots are going now? Bottom of the barrel.

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>work for a business
>shittalk business while working for business
>get told not to shittalk business while working for business
>quit

How is this news?

>>256334893
What's to defend? They are literally less than dirt. They are nothing.

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>>256335161
For me it's like the N64 days: I play on PC.

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>>256335161
But anon. The PS2 had more online features than the Wii U and this isn't even hyperbole.

>>256335161
The PS2 seriously had better online than the Wii U.

The Wii U's online is that bad.

>>256334281
It's true, PS2 is the GREATEST console ever made and Sony can't make another great system since.

>>256335385

Fuck, it's true. Monster Hunter 1 for the PS2 had 4 player online co-op...

>>256335385
What online features does it have?

>>256335501
My friends are playing MK8 as we speak, zero issues.

Wii U online works fine.

Is Nintendo aware that Platinum wants Bayonetta 2 to have online co-op?

Someone better tell them, Nintendo will want that removed because "ONLINE IS SCAWY"

>>256335569

I know, right...

>>256335501
>>256335385
>have to by a peripheral just to go online
>no digital shop
>no online community to see whats new and popular
Nope

They share the fact that so few games actually support it

>Guy decided to leave Nintendo on good terms and in good hands

Why is Neo/v/ making a big deal out of this again?

>>256326924

>guy has shit ideas
>company tells them his shitty ideas are shit
>NAH MAN IM G8, U JUS DONT REALIZE!!!!!

and nothing of value was loss.

>>256335738
>Nintendo made the most-sold online playable console game last gen
>hurr Nintendo hates internet!

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>>256335569
And so does Monster hunter 3U.

Is there some joke I'm not getting here.

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>>256333238
>b-but Virtual Boy!
>b-but Dreamcast!
>N-nintendo should drop the assets and move to PC and iOS
>Z-Zelda on PS4 is a good thing
>forgetting WiiU is Gamecube 2.0
your wet dream ain't gonna happen any day faggot.

>>256335385
>and this isn't even hyperbole
Yes it is you fucking mongol

Wii U
>Netflix
>Hulu
>Miiverse
>WiiTV
>EShop
>Online Games

PS2
>Online games

>>256335569
Just like the Wii and Wii U

stop

>Sonygger vs Nintendo thread #3

go back to neogaf

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>>256335923
Wait a minute, I realized that Nintendo also made the most-sold online playable console game this gen.

>>256335569
Monster Hunter for PS4 lack both offline and online modes.

>>256328476

Maybe if indie games weren't so shit, then corporate would allow more indie games.

Y'all niggas posting in a bait thread.

>>256326924
>Muh euphoric opinions
>Fuck money, I just want to express muh uhpinyuns

Dan's retarded, basically.

Are you retarded? Go see if Nintendo's hiring!

>>256336083
Go back to preschool, Nintenyearold.

>>256333567
now that's fucking retarded.

>tfw Sony fans are gonna defend this crap like EA fans

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>>256336149
rekt