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Cao Cao has replaced the main antagonist of the last game you

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Cao Cao has replaced the main antagonist of the last game you played, keeping their abilities.

How do things change, /v/?
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>>253976384
>Cao Cao
>antagonist
shu fag detected
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>Tropico 5
>Cao Cao is now the leader of the United States
RIP in peace the entire world
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>>253976384
>DW8 XL CE

Nothing, he's still a bitch in my hypotheticals.
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>Atelier Rorona Plus
>The game ends when Sterk first shows up at the shop to close it
>No quests
>No Alchemy
>No Adventure
>Just Cao Cao closing the shop, as it should have been
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>>253976384
Is Three Kingdoms work watching?
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Man, every scene with Cao Cao in Three KIngdoms 2010 is gold. He's such a smug bastard.
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>>253979610
Pretty great show
Definitely worth a watch
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>>253976384
>Duke Nukem 3D
>Cycloid Emperor is now Cao Cao
RIP duke
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>new Vegas NCR
Oh baby
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i've never played a dynasty warriors game is the version on steam any good?
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>cave story
>instead of Ballos keeping himself locked in hell, attempting to keep his powers in check, we have Cao Cao willingly wrecking everything.
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>>253979992
Why does Cao Cao remind me of Lou Diamond Phillips?
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>>253979992
That scene was harsh, man. His uncle looked so fucking happy to see him.
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>Ace Combat Infinity
>Cao Cao flying a QFA-44

sure, i'll take it
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>>253980317
insecure cunt
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/sp/ confirmed for disrespecting cao cao
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>>253976384
COW COW A SHIT
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>you will never unite china under a single banner
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>>253980468
Sh > S
Ch > C

It's not fucking hard to pronounce. Esperanto does the same thing.
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>>253980395
If he was the coach of ANY team, he'd coach everyone to help him follow his ambitions of leading his club through the ranks to become the greatest club of all time.

There, I saved /sp/ a pointless thread.
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literally who?
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Oh god, Symphony of The Night.

"What is a man!?"
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>>253980468
Liu Bei pls go
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>>253979759
The few gifs i ever saw of Cao Cao in that has him come off as a colossally devious and smarmy motherfucker
is that accurate
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>>253980395
I MUST LURE LEBRON JAMES OVER TO MY SIDE! QUICK GIVE HIM RED HEELS, THE FASTEST SHOES IN THE WORLD!
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>>253980771
do u even dynasty warriors
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>>253980468
>Shufags
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>>253980395
that's not /sp/, that's just the autistic janitor. he deletes completely sports-related threads sometimes when he's in a bad mood. don't worry, /sp/ would have approved of your thread
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>>253980853
I can really see him giving a long lecture about what it is to be a man and then concluding that Simon Belmont doesn't fit in the catagory.
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>>253980945
janitors can't ban
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>>253980771
>??????????
Get out.
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>>253980887
TOPKEK
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>>253980993
Simon would honorably lay down his whip and go home after that.
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>>253980864
more or less
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>>253980993
going by book cao cao, he'd probably try to recruit him first

cao cao recruits his enemies more often than the fucking demi-fiend
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>>253980864
He was real fucked up but he got results.

Like one of his things was to avoid being assassinated in his sleep he made up a legend about himself

first he pretended to be asleep in his courtyard and called a servant over
then he jumps up with a scream, grabs his sword next to him and stabs the servant
and then pretends to go right back to sleep

Thus the legend is that Cao Cao kills in his sleep so no one would dare go assassinate him in his sleep.
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>DW8 was my last played game
It's some bizzaro world where Liu Bei isn't the total douchenozzle antagonist.
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>>253981363
>Thus the legend is that Cao Cao kills in his sleep so no one would dare go assassinate him in his sleep.
Haha oh wow, that clever mother fucker.
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>>253981491
Whoa, what the fuck?

Why?
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>>253981491
havent gotten to this part yet but if he does that then i bet the baby deserved it
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>>253981731
Because a storyteller wanted to make something up to show how awesome Liu Bei is.

Seriously, it's fiction and was originally invented with the intention of making Liu Bei look better. Sadly, most opinions have changed since then.
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The latest game I played would be a Harvest Moon, and the only villain I can think of for that game would be the autumn rains for killing all my yams.
The second latest game would be Sengoku Rance so not only is Cao Cao an immortal super human it also means the difficulty spike is more of a bitch because he'll recruit every territory he takes over instead of killing everyone in it.

You are now imagining a version of Rance where the Takeda Generals join the Demon Army so they'll alter between Takeda and Shimazu blitz's
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>>253981731
Liu Bei can have more kids.

He cannot have more Zhao Yuns.
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>>253981491
liu bei not standing up for lu bu was simultaneously smart but also quite bitchy

I do like how lao gouzhwhatever characterized liu bei as being aware of how much he sucks and all his men (guan yu and zhao yun or whatever) being too good for him
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>Shadow of the Colossus
>Cao Cao is [Dormin]
FUCK WE ARE SO DEAD!
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>>253981857
This.

Also since traditionally people have been very hard on Liu Shan for failing to achieve his father's dreams, most readers (who already have some idea of the overall myth) would be applauding Liu Bei for doing that.
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>>253982106
and in the games liu shan is a faggot too

what the fuck is the rapier, shittiest fucking weapon ever even the wire gloves are better
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>>253982198
Western audiences like to joke "Liu Shan was thrown on his head and became retarded as a result," but the intended effect is supposed to be the audience cheering "Liu Shan deserves to be thrown because he's going to grow up to be a failure."

Remember, the invention of the fictional story of Liu Shan being thrown as a child came after the idea of Liu Shan being a failure was well established in the overall myth.

Historical guy was a weak ruler, but not actually retarded, and it's unlikely even Cao Cao himself could have achieved Liu Bei's dream. The deck was just too heavily stacked against Shu by the time of Liu Shan's ascension.
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>It's a Liu Bei episode.
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>>253982773
i haven't seen three kingdoms yet but can I assume liu bei episodes are more about guan yu or zhang fei being cool?
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>>253982773
>It's a Lu Bu episode

I don't quite understand my fascination with the man.
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>Divinity Original Sin
>mfw Cao Cao and his army of Blood Demons and Orcs
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>>253982902

guan yu being cool, yes

zhang fei being a raging fucking moron, yes
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>>253979992

Show was so fucking boring after he left the scene. Like the last twenty episodes are garbage because he's not around.

It just becomes the Sima Yi show costarring Zhuge Liang as his buttmonkey.
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>>253982902
Liu Bei's portrayal, at least in what I've seen so far (~15 episodes in), is not very flattering. He comes off as a passive beta, and he's surrounded by alpha types.

Also, Zhang Fei is an asshole who beats people for shits and giggles.
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>>253982198
I like Liu Shan in the games.

He seems more down to earth and realistic than all the HONORUABU spouting characters.
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>Duel of the Planeswalkers 2014
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>>253983032
That's cause you're his bitch.
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>Crusader Kings 2

Doesn't Matter. I've united Europe and India under my rule. Mogols, chinks, it doesn't matter, all will be ground to dust for the glory of God.
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>>253983115
I'm only a dozen episodes in and I already want to someone to give Zhang Fei a smack and tell him to stop being such a shortsighted asshat with a sprinkling of pants on head retardedness.
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>>253983032

>Lu Bu episode.
>"MUH DIAOCHAN."
>Lu Bu we have to leave no-
"BUT DIAOCHAN!"
>Dude if we don't go now we'll lose the wa-
>"DIAAAAOOOOCHAAAAN!"
>Oh shit the enemy has broken through fuck you Lu Bu you fuck!
>"DIAOCHAAAANNNNNNNUUUUU~"
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>>253983162
2010's actually more flattering than the 1994 bleeding heart portrayal where Liu Bei is crying basically every other scene.

The historic man was apparently very stoic and good at hiding his emotions. The novel copy-pastes this description from the records, but then proceeds to completely contradict it by adding a bunch of fictional scenes of Liu Bei crying.
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>Return to dreamland
>Instead of going HA HA, I HAVE THE POWER, TIME TO CONQUER THE WORLD he bids his time, gets an army, and then assaults popstar
>He still gets his ass kicked because fuck, it's not the first time Kirby fights abominations with powers beyond imagination, or the second.
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>>253981491
>Throw away your kid
>Fucks up everything you did for your kingdom after you die and he becomes the leader
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>>253983482

Too bad every death in the series is I'M STRESSED. TIME TO SPIT UP BLOOD! BLARRRRGH!
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>>253983430
in the book it's vaguely more modern with him getting drunk and fat listening to his wife and diao chan desu ne~ to stay in
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>>253983430
Pretty much my experience with Lu Bu in DW8: Legends, at least the historical route.

>CHEN GONG STRATEGY SOMETHING
>Okay, we pincer attack from here, just -
>WAIT NEVERMIND IM GONNA GO STRONK THEM TO DEATH
>No Lu Bu please, this will work, it -
>CHEN GONG WHY ARE WE LOSING
>God fucking damnit Lu Bu
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>>253983698
>Too bad every death in the series is I'M STRESSED. TIME TO SPIT UP BLOOD! BLARRRRGH!
Sun Jian, Lv Bu, Chen Gong, Xun Yu, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Cao Cao, Liu Bei, Wei Yan, Sima Yi...
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>Vice City
>Sonny Forelli

"That was my rice Tommy, MY RICE!"
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>>253983482
I've been meaning to read up on the time period, is there a good place to start?
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>DW8XL
They don't.
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>>253983032
>>253983430
>Episode 9
>NTR, NTR everywhere
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>>253979610
It's very good, it can be wordy at times and it follows the same formula a but too much. But it's generally a very good show.

Cao Cao and Zhang Fei steal the show.
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recapture of chang'an on chaos is a good way to let off stress
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>>253983978
romance of the three kingdoms

then read what lao dahgong fictionalized (which is a lot) and then go on from there

like all great historical fiction it'll wrap you up in the time period and you'll see what's bullshit and what isn't
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>>253983978

just read the romance of the three kingdoms. it's only what, 6000 pages?
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>>253983978
What do you mean? The actual time period and its history?

Dr Rafe de Crespigny of the Australian National University is probably the foremost historian on the era in the English speaking world, so you'd probably want to check out his works. A good number of his writings are online for free.

I recommend starting with:
https://digitalcollections.anu.edu.au/html/1885/42048/morrison51.html

If on the other hand you mean the myth and legend, any translation of the Sanguo Yanyi "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" would probably do, since the novel is nowadays considered the "canon" of the mythology.
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>Cow Cow in Parasite Eve
My mitochondrial ambition cannot be stopped!
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>>253984058
Watching Dong Zhuo run around, angrily screaming at Lu Bu, launched my sides into a galaxy far away.
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>>253984101
>it can be wordy at times
Let's be honest here. The whole reason any of us watch the show is to see guys in costumes talk to each other. The other scenes like the battles and fighting is just boring filler.
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>>253984370
>>253984184
>>253984175
Sweet, thanks for all the info.

And yeah, reading info about the actual time period. What I've played and scene has intrigued me, and I'd like to know more.
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>>253976384
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>>253982198
>Lose all your campaigns
>Get rekt
>"I'm tired of war, fuck this shit. Take my land."

What a faggot.
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>>253976384
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>>253984601
>little Liu Xie in the background
>he was only nine years old when he watched the eunuch massacre
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>>253984601
A man so despicable that even today in China people celebrate his death.
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>>253985034
>The men guarding the corpse lit a wick on Dong's navel, and it burned brightly for days with the corpse's fats as fuel.
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>implying Liu Bei isn't a two-face hypocrite
>implying Liu Bei isn't a complete imcompetent faggot
>implying the novel isn't Shu biased and paints him in a good light

Based Cao Cao for President and Emperor
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>>253985237
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>>253983809
>tfw one of the cutest girls is forced to experience her father being a complete idiot
What's worse is that she flatout disappears in the route where Lu Bu DOES win.
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>>253985376
he was also a pretty good poet
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>>253985464
He was also a martial artist and personally fought on the front lines beside his men through much of his early career.

Remember that he personally led the raid of Wuchao during the Guandu campaign, when he was well into his forties.
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>>253985405
>What's worse is that she flatout disappears in the route where Lu Bu DOES win.
Koei didn't want to put her reaction when she gets a "new mommy" that is probably younger that her.
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>>253985405
No shit. I was surprised when she didn't show up. It was nice, though, seeing Lu Bu display an emotion towards her (or in general) that wasn't MUH CHALLENGE.

Also liked how they gave her the lawnmower blade that Lu Bu used in 6. Was a nice touch.
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>>253984628
Yeah but it follows the same pattern
>What should we do about this?
>My Lord, we shouldn't do it and here is 5 minutes of reasons why
>You're right, we shouldn't do it
>My Lord, I'm a different faggot and I think we should do it, let me spend 5 minutes explaining why
>That's also possible, we probably should do it now, what do you think third adviser?
>Doing it might be the right thing, not doing it might also be the right thing
>You are most wise, third adviser
>Adviser who was wrong ends up getting executed
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>>253984184
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>>253985376
I really like the old costumes.
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>>253985835
>Brewitt-Taylor translation
Get the Moss Roberts translation idiot
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>>253983430
AIYAH FENGXIAN AH!
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>>253985809
Way to generalize but yea...they are doing their jobs. Their job is to advise their lord.
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The guy who played Cao Cao got best actor right?
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>>253985978
How tight is your fedora?
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>>253986152
Zhang Fei was better
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>>253985464
???
A Short Song, by Cáo C?o ??

????,?????
????,?????
To my wine I sing a song: a man's life can last how long?
Ephemeral as morning dew; past days are bitterly endless

????,?????
??????????
Indignity is matched by generosity; yet this worry is unforgettable
How can one be free from sorrow? There is only Dù K?ng's wine(1)

????,?????
????,?????
Your collar so blue, blue; forever my heart longs, longs for you(2)
Yet only for your sake; do I still sing to this day

????,?????
????,?????
'Yu, yu' call the deer; eating together on the plain
I too have my dear guests; drumming strings and blowing flutes(3)

????,?????
????,?????
Bright, bright shines the moon; Will there be a time it can be grasped?
Sorrow comes from deep within; never will it be ended

????,?????
????,?????
Crossing streets, passing roads; over a hard path you joined my service
Whether in work or play; my heart shall always remember that kindness

????,????,
????,?????
The moon outshines the sparse stars; the crows fly to the south
Circling the tree three times; on what branch can they find rest?

????,?????
????,?????
Mountains do not despise height; Seas do not despise depth
The Duke of Zh?u spat out his meal; so the world turned its heart to him(4)

(1) Dù K?ng ?? is the legendary inventor of wine
(2) This a quote from a love poem in the Poem Records ??, an anthology of classical poems already old in Cao Cao's time
(3) This entire stanza is a quote from a poem in the Poem Records ??
(4) When people visited the Duke of Zh?u ?? while he was eating, he would spit out his food and meet them instead of finish his meal. Commentators praised him for his self-sacrifice
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>>253986279
Nah, all he did was yell.

Cao Cao literally carried this show. The show is shit after he's gone.
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I'm about to start watching this, for the first time with no previous knowledge of it
Is there any material I should read before jumping in?
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>>253986024
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>>253986373
https://digitalcollections.anu.edu.au/html/1885/42048/morrison51.html
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>>253986373
Not really.
If you like it you should check out Dynasty Warriors, though.
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>>253986350

while i mostly agree, i liked zhuge liang and sima yi enough to stick it out
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>>253986373
Brush up on the Yellow Turban Rebellion, since the 2010 version skips that part.
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>>253986024
I'm chinese and I found it funny that they translated aiyah as "goodness". I guess when you think about that is the most fitting word.
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>>253985978
Post pics of your copy.

I'll wait for you to get it off your shelf.
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>>253986373
It explains stuff fairly well, I wouldn't worry. I jumped in with only game knowledge, and it's been great so far.
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You can pinpoint the exact second his heart rips in two.
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>>253986056
The point is that the majority of the show is Lords being incompetent retards having their decisions spoonfed to them by their underlings.

The best characters, like Cao Cao, are the ones who make their own decisions. Watching Yuan Shao was painful because he literally did whatever he was most recently told to do. It tends to get repetitive at times, although there are certainly great moments that make it worth watching.
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dat OP though

is there some genre for that kind of chinese music?
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>some scholar prick rekts Cao Cao with an essay
>Cao Cao rewards him with a big ass house for being so good

Based Cao Cao
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if I have to hear about that ambition one more fucking time
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>Pokemon FireRed
My ambition versus his ambition I guess.
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>>253986757
>Watching Yuan Shao was

As was watching Yuan Shu. Jesus he's hard to watch.
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Is there a bigger failure than Jiang Wei?
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>>253986757

>So many chances for them to actually get together and win.
>They act like retards and fucking ruin everything.

Who was the most frustrating person to watch fuck up? My vote goes to Guan Yu.
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>>253987030

you're gonna make him cry
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>>253987179
M-m-m-MAH HONOR
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>>253980853
>gif
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>>253987179
Liu Bei constantly refusing territory and power that fell onto his lap because he didn't want to seem rude.
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>>253987030
>>253986757
Hardest to watch was Cao Ping shitting his pants while being questioned by Cao Cao
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I have not played a Dynasty Warrior since 3 came out, and was interested in getting into 8, so I started watching this series and think it's really dam good, really glad /v/ suggested it to me. I believe back when I played 3 I really liked Sima Yi, I hope he is a good character in this.
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>play Jin
>wreck Shu
>wreck Wu
It's kinda boring, the enemies are boring. I just want to strangle Liu Shan, fucker was just annoying. The whole Jin run was beating the dead horse route.

Last game was Total Annahilation, can't even play it properly since shit keeps flickering.
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>>253987179

fucking anybody from shu

let's hire the most brilliant strategist in the realm so we can just fucking not listen to him and get our shit wrecked every fucking time
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So are there any actual strategy titles that cover the Three Kingdoms? Or am I stuck downloading Sengoku and just pretending it's China?
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Cao Cao would taken China easy if he had Zhuge Liang
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>>253987237
He came across as a god damned idiot.
>I know, I'll trick Lu Bu into taking Liu Bei's land, then NOT pay him like I promised! He'll never suspect it!

>WHAT, how can Lu Bu take my provisions, and then not follow through with the terms of our agreement?! How does such a thing occur?
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What was about Red Hare that made it so legendary? Was it a special breed? Or even a western horse?
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>>253987712
Yo
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>>253987815
Cao Cao wasn't benevolent enough to court Zee-Huge Lee-Ang
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>>253987870
It was ??'s horse. That's pretty much all that's actually know about it.
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>>253976384
Well um...
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>>253987595
DW8: Xtreme Legends is pretty solid dude. Now's as good a time as any to get into it.
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>>253987712
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>>253987815
Let's be honest here. Zhuge Liang was a nobody living in the empire's fringes. Cao Cao had guys like Xun Yu, Xun You, Guo Jia, Man Chong, Zhong Yao, and Jia Xu, all of whom were way better advisers and officers than Zhuge Liang.
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>>253987967
Even so without the romantization it was recorded as a really really great horse

" in Lü Bu's biographies in the historical texts Records of the Three Kingdoms and Book of the Later Han. It was described as very powerful, and capable of "galloping across cities and leaping over moats"."
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>>253988017
>dat first ability
How is that not OP?
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>>253988062
It's on sale now too on steam.
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>>253988062
>still no online bro-op
Until I can Zhang Fei with Guan Yu, this game's a No Bai.
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>>253987815
Or even Chen Gong. He knew his shit. Lu Bu just never listened.
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>Oblivion
Amazing.
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>>253986380
Why didn't that explode?

Why did I think it was going to explode?
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>>253976384
Arthas from Heroes of the Storm.

Kinda fucking accurate... cept its not the sword of the seven stars
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>>253988474
Yeah, I was surprised there wasn't some form of online play. Game's perfect for it.

But hey there's local co-op. In case, you know, you want to play a split screen game on your PC.
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guo jia died too soon
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>>253986691
>Zhongda, I'm going to ask you one thing, and I hope you answer honestly. The woman in this grave was killed by you, right?
>Why would you think that? I loved her.
>No, no. In this world, what you love is famous achievements and grand ambitions. Jingshu was only a tool you could use. When she was no longer of use, naturally you got rid of her.
>You really have good perception. You're right. It was I who bribed the nurse to give her a blood thinner. Before the child could be born, her blood long ran dry.
>Didn't you say that you loved her? Do you have not even the slightest empathy within you?
>Didn't you say, that in this world the only thing I loved was famous achievements and grand ambitions? Heh heh heh heh...
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>>253976384
pretty much the same
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>>253988017
What a slut

http://www.englishsanguosha.com/wu/sun-shang-xiang
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>>253976384
GW2
Much more interesting than some retarded zombie dragon.
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>Cao Cao as baron praxis

fund it
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>Cao Cao in AA2

W-what?
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>>253989380
Makes sense. Cao Cao loved him some married women, that's his fetish.
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I was playing dynasty warriors 5xl

Nothing changes?
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Do character creators count? I was making Karna in Artificial Academy 2.
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>>253988503
The fiction obviously doesn't touch on this, but the historical Chen Gong got his start as one of Cao Cao's subordinates before betraying him in favor of Lv Bu.
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Now we trivialize a RotTK character with >muh

>Guan Yu

>Muh Loyalty
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>>253989380

Step aside, Dio.
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>>253989940

>Wang Yi
>Muh Chao
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>>253989752
Actually it does. Hell in Three Kingdoms, Chen Gong saved Cao Cao and followed him believing in his vision. But when he killed his uncle and everyone and didn't feel bad about it, he got disgusted and left.
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>>253990072
11/10
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>>253990074
I meant the much more in-depth relation where Chen Gong was in Cao Cao's service for at least several years and was basically the guy who convinced the people of Yanzhou to accept Cao Cao as governor.
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Watching the show makes it seems like one of the reasons why Cao Cao is so good is because he somehow knows everything. Some event happened far away, and he knew of it. He knew of the emperor's blood edict and the girdle. He knew of what happens to everyone. I'm not sure how he does this or if he just scouts far and wide constantly BAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOing to him but man.
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The Great Revival is also on Youtube, is it any good?
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>>253990487

Cao Cao is obviously a wizard and is scrying all over the place.
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>>253989940
>Guan Yu never actually did that
>Xiahou Dun really did follower after Cao Cao after only 4 months
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>>253990629

>Xiahou Dun got one episode in the show and died without a single mention.

Sometimes the show was really shit.
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>>253990696
It was a sad acknowledgement that the man who was basically Cao Cao's second in command is only ever remembered for a fictionally eating an eyeball and a fictional duel with Guan Yu.
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>>253989940
Wei
>Muh ambition

Shu
>Muh benevolence

Wu
>Muh leaders keep dying

Jin
>Muh ambition
>Muh imbeciles
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>>253989940
>xiahou dun
>muh eye
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>>253987870
It was possibly a Ferghana horse imported from Central Asia to the Han court's royal stables.
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>>253988685
>tfw me and my brother used to Co-Op Dynatasy Warriors together on PS2
>tfw he's a cripple and we can't play anymore
>tfw he watches me play DW8PCXLEXCECPDDRBBQAARXIV and says it'd be nice if we could co-op again
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>>253992513
You really shouldn't have posted that pic.
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>>253988685

I wish more games on PC had split screen. Not having a normal monitor and a TV connected to your PC is pleb tier anyways
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>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Heavenly_Horses

Holy shit my sides.
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>>253992706
Well it pretty much covers it.

Having a bro there who wants to play games but can't sucks.
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Something I never realized before when I knew vaguely of ROTK/DW is the strategist/advisors. I always thought

Cao Cao - Sima Yi
Liu Bei - Zhuge Liang
Sun Ce/Quan - Zhou Yun

But now I know there's so many of them like Xu Shu, Xun You, Lu Su, etc etc.
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>>253993308
>strategists
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>>253993308
you thought they were the same person or?
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>>253993308
Zhuge Liang wasn't even really a military adviser while Liu Bei was alive. He was a civil and logistics officer, meaning his counterparts in Cao Cao's and Sun Quan's camps would probably have been Xun Yu and Zhang Zhao, respectively.
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>>253993670
One adviser per lord.
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How the hell did those footsoldiers march off to battle for such a long time?
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>>253990487
it's because in the fiction cao cao and some others (notably zhuge liang) can normally see ruses coming before they can get off the ground

well, in cao cao's case at least until red cliff
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>ctrl+f han dang
>0 results
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I really like how all the stories revolving around the Three Kingdoms era are basically all about Shu and Wei. Wu just happens to be there and doesn't really do much.

Wu was around before the last nail was hammered into the Han coffin, so their story of formation isn't told. Their most noteworthy event is Sun Jian dying because muh emporer's seal.

It's a shame since there likely was a lot of interesting internal affairs in their kingdom but none of it was as interesting and the feuding between Wei and Shu.
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>>253989940
>Muh name
>Muh GODDAMIT FENGXIAN
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>>253996004
>none of it was as interesting and the feuding between Wei and Shu.
This is completely wrong. Wei and Wu had way more battles of way larger scale than anything Shu could muster. The only reason why Shu even lasted as long as it did was because Wei could not completely focus on destroying it due to the threat of Wu on the flank.

Wu was far stronger than Shu, and left a far greater impact on history. China only extends as far south as it does today because of the process of southern colonization that began under Wu in its effort to extract resources in the south to fend off the north.
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>>253987927
Is VII any good. I bought it for cheap and have no idea what the series is even about.
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