A pretty shitty OU water type, fast but squishy as fuck with many easy counters. God only knows why so many shitters use him.
agreed, these new designs are shit
It's fucking keys anon. Someone literally looked at their keyring and said, "that's a pokemon."
It's a fucking seal anon. Someone literally looked at an animal and said, "that's a pokemon."
That's a Greninja. A fully evolved starter pokemon introduced in Pokemon X & Y, otherwise known as the "Sixth Generation". It has the typing of Water/Dark and a hidden ability that allows it to change it's own typing to the attack it is using. It is also known for it's high speed and special attack stats.
>It's fucking keys anon
It's not. It's a little key ring shaped pokemon that goes around and collects keys. They keys themselves aren't a part of Klefki.
Contrast that to Magnemite who is literally a ball with an eye, 3 screws and 2 magnets stuck to it. Someone literally looked at a magnet and said "that's a pokemon".
Seriously, fuck these new Pokemon designs. This think is literally just a pile of slime.
I liked Pokemon back when it had truly inspired designs, guys.
its a fucking pile of shit anon. Someone literally looked at their shit and said, "that's a pokemon."
Look, it's just a ball. They looked at a ball, slapped some eyes on it, and look at the result.
And look at it's evolved form! It's literally a BIGGER pile of slime. What the fuck.
And look! ANOTHER fucking pile of slime! It's even purple! But you know what the worse part is? It's a seperate fucking Pokemon. Not even an evolution!
What the fuck is wrong with Gamefreak these days? Can't we get back to the roots, with original ideas. I mean, we had a ninja frog, a wizard fox, and a knight hedgehog. That's good stuff. Nowadays it's literally piles of goo.
Pokemon is fucking dead to me.
Wow, it's a fucking purple rattle snake!
What an awesome design!
A brid with pink talons.
Gamefreak does it again!
They like and use him because of Protean, which changes his type to whatever move he uses before he uses it, which means he ALWAYS gets STAB and can change his weaknesses and reisstance at a whim.
Inspired by Jiraiya, and then there's that water shuriken thing. If he were just inspired by Jiraiya, it would seem far-fetched to say something like this, but the shuriken attack just seals the deal.
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from a channel named KingVidya. Now I know what the Nintendo fanbase here look like
Okay this one I'm going to have to stop you at
New pokemon designs, while not bad, tend to be overlly designed, as in have a few stripes, spots, or something to much. In greninja's case, I wish they dropped the white spots, he'd look more slick. Arcanine is simple but gets the point across.
And it's evolved form! Wow! A color change and it gets bigger! What a piece of shit!
>All these people defending Greninja
You all are retarded. That frog shit does NOT deserve to be in smash. We need more magic use, and Delphox would've been way more perfect. We don't need fucking rehashed ninjas like it.
>we need an evolution for Diglett
>I know, let's make two more Digletts pop out from the hole!
TOP KEK, the anime was only better than Pokemon for the first two seasons. It became literal shit afterwards, and the games were never good.
I'm not even talking about sales. Digimon can't even get localizations even WITH fan petitions. Franchise is ded.
It's a fucking ball anon. Someone literally looked at their hairy balls while jacking it and said, "that's a pokemon."
>posts an even worse design
>first two seasons
Confirmed shit taste.
Digimon Adventure 01 & Tamers are better than anything Pokémon.
All the games are unique and awesome.
TCG looks bomb as fuck.
Don't get me wrong, I love Pokémon but if you weren't growing up as Pokémon was a thing it's garbage.
I thought it was confirmed being localised, who gives a shit anyway it's essentially Digimon World.
Good taste, anon.
They do make the best pair, too.
>not knowing Klefki is based on a Japanese myth about fairies who steal keys and other small trinkets
When did that pairing become a thing?
I love this argument.
P.S. I love Garbador so don't come at me with you nostaglia fag shit. I'm just saying they took REAL ASS KEYS and gave it a face. A key themed Pokemon could be cool. But not like that. Just like Magnemite could have been a fucking Magnet with eyes. But he's not.
Also I don't give a fuck about the "lore" behind the key thing "lol it stealz the keys" who fucking cares if it still looks terrible.
Generation 1 also suffered from bad designs. But the number of bad designs is a relatively low number compared to future installments.
Additional all those things have LOADS of personality so I don't even dislike them that much. Hell I fucking Love Muk. How can you not?
Also Voltorb is a mimic. It was clever at the time. I'd personally never use one because I don't wanna go on adventures with a ball with eyes but that's just me.
I prefer Pokemon because video games but
>TOP KEK, the anime was only better than Pokemon for the first two seasons. It became literal shit afterwards
Tamers was the best mon that was ahead of its time
I know it's a joke in the thread about the old vs. new designs, but I do genuinely think that some people bitch about new Pokemon just because they're not the original 150. Like, I'll bet that if Greninja and Blastoise were swapped, I'll bet people would think Greninja is just fine.
Okay I took a liberty with that one but the DS RPGs are sweet, Digimon World 1 & 2003 are pretty cool
damn backtrackingbut that's as far as my knowledge goes.
Oh and obvs Digimon Rumble Arena.
In fact there was a Smash Bros clone on GBA that was pretty hype too, you couldn't turtle because you collected the gems that you hit off your opponent.
Please care about my opinion anon-san, otherwise my existence here isn't validated.
For a while now.
For as back as October, I should think. They just go well together.
Klefki is based on a Japanese spirit that is the cause of missing keys. It disguises itself as a keyring, then steals the keys placed on it. Their culture abounds with these kinds of spirits and ghosts.
Americans have this major problem with being unable or unwilling to understand and accept this, however, which is why you and others throw such monstrous shitfits over things that are perfectly normal in the country of its origin. Maybe you guys can try learning about other cultures and mythologies before you act like the typical Ugly American.
I think it'd probably look closer to this.
Guys..I like Voltorb. I like Muk. I like Magnetmite. I even like the ice cream mon. Why both both sides shit on them?
Hey, a big guy with a small guy. It works since both are generally liked together anyways
>talking shit about the good old U S of A
You mad cause your mythology is shit?
Chesnaught looks like Bowser's grandfather
It's not like I dislike Chesnaught. He's simply not a top choice is all.
you sound upset
is it because your franchise is dead in the water
Best 6th gen Pokemon here.
Seriously, even First gen fags have to admit how Hawlucha is just the best thing.
its a fucking squid anon. someone literally looked at a squid and said "thats a pokemon"
I didn't say all the new ones. I didn't even say the new ones didn't have personality.
I said Grimer and Muk and Voltorb are all displaying clear emotions and there's a visual difference between Grimer and Muk. No one of us would confuse the two. And children don't either.
In a world where either you're a nostlagia fag or a person who defends ANYTHING new Pokemon makes, the latter use Muk as like a weapon against the nostagia fags and I don't understand why. I fucking love that guy. Is it really so bad when a thing evolves into a thing that resembles it's passed stage? That's not something we want?
Hell that's my problem with Samurott.
Poliwhirl -> Poliwrath is more egregious than them.
That sounds like a cool thing. Cept the Pokemon looks terrible. What if they had made it a cool ghost with keys. Fucking problem solved.
I'm aware. I was giving my personal reason for not using Voltorb despite understand why he isn't "SHIT"
Gears are also just about the worst thing ever. Magneton/Magnezone actually kinda looks like a thing still. I don't know what kind of abomination the gear thing is but it's not supposed to play with children.
Can we all agree the biggest tragedy is the introduction of mega-evolutions and the fact that we only got 70 new Pokemon in gen6?
I would rather get further evolutions on non 3-stage pokemon. Now that's never going to happen again because why would they? Give it a mega evolution instead.
>best 6th gen pokemon
Hawlucha is cool, but it isn't Tyrantrum.
>"What a cool design! I can't wait to see what his last stage looks like!"
modern pokemon designs are basically someone gluing a bunch of random geometric shapes together, sometimes on some sort of cheap store brand version of an animal. yea there were some silly designs gen one bu t god damn shit has gotten 2retarded4me
Good lord, this actually change everything.
Why Gamefreak, why ?
One thing I never understood is why they introduce new features/mechanics one gen, and take them out the next.
Secret bases were great. Glad we're getting them updated with ORAS. Why the FUCK though have they not been a thing SINCE gen3?
Why the fuck do we not get following Pokemon anymore?
I don't get it.
>cheap store brand version of an animal
Basically describing half the Kanto dex.
>not hating Mexican pineapple duck
>not having enough respect for yourself to not type the worlds Mexican pineapple duck
and before you get fucking smart, I didn't type the words, I copy/pasted what you typed
because the latter versions are totally lacking in these animals, right?
Sombrero Duck is better than some shit coffin with 4 arms.
nigga if you be talking shit about my bro
> removing great features
> Still not removing the bullshit HM mechanic
Motherfucker don't you DARE talk shit about Ludicolo.
Because it's incredibly useful and the best user of Prankster who can shit on every Mega Evolution except for Sceptile, Swampert, Garchomp, Ampharos, Absol, Diancie and Manetric which aren't used often in favor of Lucario, Blaziken and/or Kangaskhan
I'd rather have that then stupid shit like
The guy that made pokemon said he was inspired by bug hunting in his youth, not fucking dumpster diving.
Look it up.
What did you want him to look like? A big burly man-jawed ghost wielding keys between its fingers like it's pretending to be Wolverine? It's a ghost who steals keys, that's why it's Steel/Ghost and looks like a keychain.
Did you people throw this big of a shitstorm over Rotom?
They can be whatever the fuck Gamefreak wants them to be. There are fucking GODS in the Pokedex as well as SATAN, and you're whining about inanimate objects being MONSTERS.
"Muh nostalgia" isn't a good argument. Pokemon has always had shit designs.
Y'all missed the point.
The anon I quoted said, "modern pokemon designs are.. cheap store brand version[s]." I was proving that was a thing for a while, I love all Pokés baby.
Too bad that's your opinion and not reality. If it was up to people like you, Pokemon would be nothing but slightly differently-colored real-life animals and plants because "I need my fantasy game about catching monsters to be realistic".
Off the top of my head I'm thinking something like a mix between Timburr and Sableye (WOW TWO NOT GEN 1 POKEMON WOW)
Like a little tricky lookin' ghost holding a big key.
Or maybe something with creepy looking hands that LOOK like keys but AREN'T ACTUAL KEYS.
I'm not the designer. It's not my job to design these things. But I'll tell you what's unacceptable. A fucking ring with REAL keys on it and a face.
Love the concept. Hate the design.
But none of those Gen 1 designs are bad, the same way Klefki or that ice cream Pokemon's design isn't bad
The only legitimately bad Pokemon designs are a lot of the Legendaries
>not posting the English version
>Being this autistic about an unclever insult
The point we're trying to make is that Pokemon that are based on animals and plants are more grounded concepts than pokemon based on ice cream/keys/paper lanterns/coffins/chandeliers/balloons.
>But I'll tell you what's unacceptable
>"My opinion should be what Gamefreak follows because it should be MY way!"
When you become part of Gamefreak's brain trust, you can dictate to them how horrible they are and how superior your personal views are.
You know that long-haired kid in the back of your classes that always wore metal tshirts and doodles in a stationary notebook all day?
I'm reminded of that kid every time I see Digimon designs. It's like he's opening up that notebook and showing me why he's been failing social studies.
My favorite Pokemon is literally just a penguin.
I can't disagree with that.
Why is Joltik the most heartmelting Pokemon?
Post up some Greninja, I need more pics in my folder.
If it wanted to be lucario
Wouldn't it just turn into one?
Really though, it's an actual decent concept, wish it would have caught on a little more
>Ask for an explanation
>Get an explanation
>T-that's just y-your opinion.
You asked so I told you. And I also told you that it's not my job to design these things. But I can sure as hell judge them. I don't care if you don't agree with me. I'm just surprised that you don't see where we're coming from.
I thought /v/ didn't like change?
>Pokemon that are based on animals
>Implying half of the ones I pointed out aren't JUST animals
Either side is unoriginal anon, there's no defending it.
I want to be a Greninja and get fucked by my Chesnaught bf.
That's his normal look.
Rotom is a poltergeist that possesses machines. Its name is "Motor" backwards, and it's Ghost/Electric. When it possesses one of its five machine Formes, its type changes depending on the machine:
I saw a redesign for Klefki where they pretty much removed the entire ring leaving the head, and in it's place was a ring of pink mist the keys orbited around, but it was more like spirit keys. They were semi-formless. IT was a small change, but I thought it was leagues better. I'll try to find it
There's a warehouse with old abandoned electronics usually hidden in every game, you choose which electronic you want it to posses and when you want it to become another one you take it back to the warehouse.
>X/Y forcing that awful flying model on Xatu
literally made him unusable for me
I hated most Gen V designs, but I kind of wish he'd replaced Lucario in Smash. You could start the match looking like a different character and then, once you get hit, turn into Zoroark. Probably wouldn't work too well because most people get hit within 5 seconds of the match starting, but I think it would be cool.
It would also be kind of awkward for local multiplayer since people can see who you select, but perhaps you could hold down a button while you select any character, so that you start as Zoroark disguised as that character.
I don't have much more than this.
you mean model.
and yes it is terrible, we can only hope they change it for ORAS since they (hopefully) won't have sky battles
Look at this uninspired design, guys. They literally just looked at a
brazilianand said "that's a pokemon"
what really rubs it in is his amie portrait is him sitting, which is great
I was pretty happy about lucario returning
but im still holding on to false hope of DLC making it playable even though its a pokeball pokemon now
Really just kinda irritated at the lack of gen 5 anything in smash though, it's probably my favourite gen thus far
The mainline Digimons were better anyway, not the card-game exclusive shit like most of what's posted like >>253756254, made by a shitty outsourcing company.
The whole Xatu gliding thing doesn't even fit considering what his
loreportrays it as. It shouldn't really move at all, considering it's supposed to be experiencing the future, past, and present all at the same time.
Protean Nigger, Greninja free ability switching, 50% damage on all moves it uses. Very few pokemon can be called a counter because Greninja just swaps to a typing that doesn't fuck it over.
How ever it is frail, so its not the prefect pokemon.
I don't you know this but Pokemon threads on /v/ are the same as game journalism clickbait.
Basically shitposter(s) shit on every design while sockpuppeting their own arguments with older designs. There are the usual idiots caught up in this who don't understand the term 'Stop playing with those hooks Spongebob' so the shitposter(s) usually don't have to sockpuppet. After the shitposter(s) sees this post he'll call me a tinfoil hat retard and sockpuppet more posts to make me seem like I'm a fool on the internet discussing kids game monster designs.
/v/ is a vicious cycle.
Don't be picky.
I'm all alone here.
>>253752627 shows the mods aren't here anyway.